Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Cara Quinn]

act on the way blind people use their 
> > iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but 
> > anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy 
> > consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they 
> > also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an 
> > important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of 
> > before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other 
> > Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion. 
> > Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an 
> > important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to 
> > complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's 
> > time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.
> > Jonathan Mosen
> > Mosen Consulting
> > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> > http://Mosen.org
> >
> >> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
> >> released in the fall?
> >> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
> >> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
> >> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
> >> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
> >> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
> >> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
> >> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
> >> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
> >> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
> >> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
> >> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
> >> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
> >> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote:
> >>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is 
> >>> true I
> >>>
> >>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
> >>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger 
> >>> phones
> >>>
> >>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
> >>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
> >>> Marie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Rajmund
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
> >>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
> >>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
> >>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
> >>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
> >>>>
> >>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
> >>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
> >>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
> >>>>
> >>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
> >>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Original Message -
> >>

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Scott Davert]

Hi all.
First, Jonathan: While I, myself, have done all I can to push the
issue, AppleVis simply will not post something I don't think because
of the reasons I outlined in my previous message. Understand the
person who makes the final decisions on such matters is the site
owner. While I am on the Editorial Team, and have some influence on
the goings on of the site, the ultimate decision is not mine.
I also sent an email to the hardware feedback form listed in your
article, and hope this will make a difference. As I said in another
email list, I think such an implementation would be fine if the
technology were more advanced than what we currently have.
To Rich and others regarding the haptic feedback and telling time,
another rumor I saw awhile back was that developers would have access
to the haptic engine in the next Watch OS, so perhaps this will be
something we will see soon. In the mean time, there is currently a
product in development that will ship in May of next year that
promises to do this and more. I've seen a prototype of it, and it does
look promising. They're also working on an iOS app that will work with
the watch, though I have not had the chance to test that out. The
developers were not even thinking of the deaf-blind population when
they developed it, and I'm trying to change that. Anyway, if you want
to read more, go to:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sunu-ultrasonic-wearable-to-heighten-perception#/
Sorry if the second part of my message came off as a comercial of
sorts, I had not intended it to be that way.

Take care,
Scott

On 12/10/15, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> Yes, that is one reason I have not ever had a talking watch!  Clocks I can
> use in my home, sure, but when I am out and about I like being able to use a
> Braille Watch to tell the time.
>
> So, maybe I might want an Apple watch soon, but I need some very compelling
> reasons to actually make that purchase.  So far, I don’t see the real
> benefits.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rose Combs
>
>  <mailto:roseco...@q.com> roseco...@q.com
>
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
> memory!
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors
>
>
>
> The one reason why I’m not an Apple  watch purchaser.
>
> For everything the device can do, not Being able to tell the time in a
> discrete manner is an absolute deal breaker for me.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>
>
> Hi Rich, if Apple could work their magic to give us a haptic way to tell the
> time with Apple Watch, that would indeed be very cool.
>
> Jonathan Mosen
>
> Mosen Consulting
>
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>
> http://Mosen.org
>
>
>
> On 11/12/2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> scott and jonathan,
>
> I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready
> until the fall of 2016. it says something.
>
> somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with
> braille dddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their
> sers) and they should not forget about brialle acces
>
> scott, I did send suggestio accessibility team to wrk on
> vibration as I said some odon't have good feelings, and
> I encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I
> notice very soft ivationn  can be esmissed out.
>
> third, I kee iphone watch more wateepof.
>
> scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we
> nnneomething to make eaaio ke phone
> stingup for scanning.
>
> sincerely,
> ricj
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scott Davert
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
> Hello Jonathan.
> I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
> said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
> stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
> the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
> apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
> based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
> Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Robin]

ining
> http://Mosen.org
>
>> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
>> released in the fall?
>> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
>> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
>> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
>> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
>> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
>> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
>> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
>> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
>> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
>> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
>> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote:
>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and 
if that particular rumor is true I

>>>
>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when 
shopping, etc. so the larger phones

>>>
>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rajmund
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
>>>>
>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, 
and quality also contributes. And

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegr

RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Steve Jobbs also made fun of using a stylus and now Apple has a $99 Apple 
Penis, oops, I meant “Pencil”. Of course we’ll never know how Apple would have 
developed if Steve had not passed away this early, but while I think he was 
brilliant in many ways so do I think also that Tim Cook does a very good job.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

 

Correct Jonathan, Apple users are Lucky SteveJobs isn't in control because if 
he intended to make the iPhone thinner, the HeadPhone Jack would be gone.

Does anyone recall him (SteveJobs) saying people can have WhatEver color they 
like, so long as its Black.
At 06:30 AM 12/10/2015, you wrote:



Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their 
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing credible 
sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to launch the 
Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be using the same 
chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s Plus, it's not 
beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched then. If there is to 
be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the iPhone 7 announcements. 
Those phones will of course be the current screen sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent out 
of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the source is. 
We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they patented 
their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced specs for made 
for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you say, there is a pair 
of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple Store now. for 800 bucks. 
And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to have been commented on 
extensively by many respected technology news sites, including Cult of Mac, 9 
to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and Mashable. Even CBS has picked it 
up.
But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find 
deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic which 
could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their iPhones. It's 
not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but anyone who wants to 
use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy consumption, who appreciate 
being able to charge their phones while they also enjoy the privacy that the 
headphone jack affords. There is an important and unique use case here that 
Apple need to be made aware of before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain 
silent when many other Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of 
duty in my opinion. Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying 
silent on such an important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging 
users to complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think 
it's time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org




On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com>  > wrote:

February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
released in the fall?
I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
5C was not a success, so they may not bother.

Scott

On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net <mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>  > 
wrote:



Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I

will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones

just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello,

Steve Jobs -and- Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Cara Quinn]

oubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
>> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
>> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
>> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
>> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
>> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
>> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote:
>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I
>>> 
>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones
>>> 
>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rajmund
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
>>>> 
>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>>> 
>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the
>>>>>>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been
>>>>>>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  o

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Cara Quinn]

stm...@gmail.com > wrote:
>> 
>> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
>> released in the fall?
>> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
>> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
>> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
>> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
>> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
>> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
>> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
>> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
>> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
>> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
>> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote:
>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I
>>> 
>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones
>>> 
>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rajmund
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
>>>> 
>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>>> 
>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 1

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Robin]

Hasn't the Game changed, I presume it can. Now that Apple has its 
VeryOwn LeasingProgram for its Apple iPhones. I don't think they need 
to wait for a specific time to release NEW iPhones. This is the only 
way to push Apple iPhone users to choose their LendingProgram over 
MobileCarrier's LendingProgram


Just My Opinion
At 06:06 AM 12/10/2015, you wrote:

February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
released in the fall?
I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
5C was not a success, so they may not bother.

Scott

On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular 
rumor is true I

>
> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the 
larger phones

>
> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
> Hello,
> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>>
>>
>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
>>
>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>
>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>
>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>> > which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>> >> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>> >> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>> >> iPhone,
>> >> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>> >>
>> >> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>> >>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as
>> >>>
>> >>> well.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the
>> >>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been
>> >>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Robin]

Correct Jonathan, Apple users are Lucky SteveJobs isn't in control 
because if he intended to make the iPhone thinner, the HeadPhone Jack 
would be gone.


Does anyone recall him (SteveJobs) saying people can have WhatEver 
color they like, so long as its Black.

At 06:30 AM 12/10/2015, you wrote:
Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at 
their source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. 
We're seeing credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding 
an event in March to launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C 
if it eventuates would be using the same chips that are already 
being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s Plus, it's not beyond the realms 
of possibility that it will be launched then. If there is to be an 
iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the iPhone 7 
announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are 
being bent out of shape about it, again it's important to consider 
how credible the source is. We know that Apple has been thinking 
about the issue because they patented their own proprietary 
headphone jack, and then they introduced specs for made for iPhone 
headphones that use the Lightning port. As you say, there is a pair 
of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple Store now. for 
800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to have 
been commented on extensively by many respected technology news 
sites, including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, 
CNet, and Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up.
But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What 
I find deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing 
about a topic which could have an enormous impact on the way blind 
people use their iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who 
will take a hit, but anyone who wants to use their iPhone with 
minimal latency and energy consumption, who appreciate being able to 
charge their phones while they also enjoy the privacy that the 
headphone jack affords. There is an important and unique use case 
here that Apple need to be made aware of before it's too late, and 
for AppleVis to remain silent when many other Apple blogs are 
speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion. Why isn't 
this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an 
important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users 
to complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I 
think it's time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
<http://mosen.org>http://Mosen.org

On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert 
<<mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com>scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:


February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
released in the fall?
I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
5C was not a success, so they may not bother.

Scott

On 12/9/15, Marie 
<<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I

will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones

just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello,
Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>chalt...@gmail.com>
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
you meant by this. At first I thou

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Scott Davert]

mor is going
>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is
>>> true I
>>>
>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone
>>> which
>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger
>>> phones
>>>
>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen
>>> for
>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Rajmund
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean
>>>> that
>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new
>>>> phone.
>>>>
>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the
>>>>>>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been
>>>>>>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a
>>>>>>>> tech
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> report  on Fox  and  CNN
>>>>>>>>   , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a
>>>>>>>> smaller  phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the
>>>>>>>> 5s,
&g

RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Iolaire]

Hi.  I don't have hearing problems and I'm not familiar with those who wear 
hearing aids, so know nothing about them. My question originates from a 
foundation of ignorance.  Do modern hearing aids not have the capability to 
receive signals via Bluetooth?  If this is so then would the headphone socket 
be redundant if those who use hearing aids could use the Bluetooth feature?
  I am of course referring here to general day-to-day tasks, not listening to 
music.  Walter.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: 10 December 2015 19:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hi Scott, since this is a mainstream issue as well as an accessibility one, 
I've used the feedback form.
In my view, it would be good to see AppleVis take an editorial position on 
something as significant to many of us as this, in the same way that Cult of 
mac has done, where they are opposing the jack's removal. I agree with you that 
a bunch of blind people won't stop this on their own, but it's an unpopular 
decision with many very loyal Apple fans, as the Apple fan sites have shown, so 
there is quite a coalition of concerned people forming.
I for one was grateful to AppleVis for blowing the whistle on the inaccessible 
App Store a few iOS versions ago, and I believe it may not have been fixed 
before release if AppleVis hadn't done the right, brave thing and taken a 
public stand. This is another such time where it could help to make a 
difference.
The jack has to go sometime, but hopefully, it can go at a point when the 
entire industry has agreed on a better standard.
I certainly appreciate you organising to have AppleVis retweet the link to my 
blog post, and I'd be happy for AppleVis to use the text. I personally don't 
see much point in starting another discussion on another user forum, it's some 
sort of editorial post I was looking for. I believe at times like this, we all 
as a community need to pull together to work towards what's in our common 
interest.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I know you're a hearing aid user too and 
that you're concerned.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 11/12/2015, at 8:08 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hello Jonathan.
 I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
 said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
 stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
 the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
 apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
 based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
 Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we
 can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been
 conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to
 email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've
 already done, and I'm sure you have.
Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have
 the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is
 failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the
 discussion yourself? You can also contact
supp...@applevis.com
 with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any
advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could
help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner,
will go for.

Thanks for reading,
Scott

On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:


Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to 
look at their
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're 
seeing
credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event 
in March to
launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates 
would be
using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 
6s and 6s
Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be 
launched
then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it 
overshadowing the
iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the 
current screen
sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people 
are being bent
out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how 
credible the
source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue 
because they
patented their own proprieta

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Jonathan Mosen]

 iPhone with minimal latency and energy
>> consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they
>> also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an
>> important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of
>> before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other
>> Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion.
>> Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an
>> important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to
>> complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's
>> time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
>>> released in the fall?
>>> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
>>> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
>>> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
>>> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
>>> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
>>> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
>>> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
>>> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
>>> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
>>> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
>>> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
>>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
>>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is
>>>> true I
>>>> 
>>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone
>>>> which
>>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger
>>>> phones
>>>> 
>>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen
>>>> for
>>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>>>> Marie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Rajmund
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean
>>>>> that
>>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new
>>>>> phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, D

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Paul Richard McGann]

scott and jonathan,

I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready 
until the fall of 2016. it says something.


somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with 
braille dddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their 
sers) and they should not forget about brialle acces


scott, I did send suggestio accessibility team to wrk on 
vibration as I said some odon't have good feelings, and 
I encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I 
notice very soft ivationn  can be esmissed out.


third, I kee iphone watch more wateepof.

scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we 
nnneomething to make eaaio ke phone 
stingup for scanning.


sincerely,
ricj


-Original Message- 
From: Scott Davert

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello Jonathan.
 I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
 said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
 stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
 the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
 apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
 based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
 Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we
 can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been
 conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to
 email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've
 already done, and I'm sure you have.
Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have
 the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is
 failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the
 discussion yourself? You can also contact
supp...@applevis.com
 with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any
advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could
help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner,
will go for.

Thanks for reading,
Scott

On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing
credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to
launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be
using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s
Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched
then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing 
the

iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen
sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being 
bent

out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the
source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because 
they

patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced
specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you
say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple
Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough 
to
have been commented on extensively by many respected technology news 
sites,

including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and
Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up.
But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I 
find

deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic
which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their
iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but
anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy
consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they
also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an
important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of
before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other
Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion.
Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such 
an

important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to
complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's
time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:

February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
released in the fall?
I think, like with the hea

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Rich, if Apple could work their magic to give us a haptic way to tell the 
time with Apple Watch, that would indeed be very cool.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 11/12/2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> scott and jonathan,
> 
> I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready until 
> the fall of 2016. it says something.
> 
> somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with braille 
> dddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their sers) and 
> they should not forget about brialle acces
> 
> scott, I did send suggestio accessibility team to wrk on 
> vibration as I said some odon't have good feelings, and I 
> encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I notice 
> very soft ivationn  can be esmissed out.
> 
> third, I kee iphone watch more wateepof.
> 
> scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we 
> nnneomething to make eaaio ke phone 
> stingup for scanning.
> 
> sincerely,
> ricj
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Scott Davert
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> Hello Jonathan.
> I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
> said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
> stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
> the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
> apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
> based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
> Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we
> can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been
> conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to
> email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've
> already done, and I'm sure you have.
> Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have
> the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is
> failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the
> discussion yourself? You can also contact
> supp...@applevis.com
> with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any
> advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could
> help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner,
> will go for.
> 
> Thanks for reading,
> Scott
> 
> On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>> Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their
>> source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing
>> credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to
>> launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be
>> using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s
>> Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched
>> then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the
>> iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen
>> sizes.
>> As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent
>> out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the
>> source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they
>> patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced
>> specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you
>> say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple
>> Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to
>> have been commented on extensively by many respected technology news sites,
>> including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and
>> Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up.
>> But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find
>> deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic
>> which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their
>> iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but
>> anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy
>> consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they
>> also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. The

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Kerri G]

I heard it was to be entitled a 6 C. the thing is, rumours are just that, 
rumours!
***
“My idea of Christmas, whether old-fashioned or modern, is very simple: loving 
others. Come to think of it, why do we have to wait for Christmas to do
that?” 
― 
Bob Hope

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
> the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the 
>  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
> , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone 
> , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs
> 
> My thoughts for today
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
>> this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 
>> 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm 
>> thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
>> to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not 
>> want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, 
>> which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm 
>> sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? 
>> Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is 
>> just crazy.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>>> port.
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies 
>>> will think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is 
>>> true, please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might 
>>> think that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 
>>> is still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple 
>>> what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep 
>>> quiet. We need to try.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Cristóbal]

The one reason why I’m not an Apple  watch purchaser. 

For everything the device can do, not Being able to tell the time in a discrete 
manner is an absolute deal breaker for me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

 

Hi Rich, if Apple could work their magic to give us a haptic way to tell the 
time with Apple Watch, that would indeed be very cool.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/12/2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

scott and jonathan,

I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready until 
the fall of 2016. it says something.

somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with braille 
dddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their sers) and 
they should not forget about brialle acces

scott, I did send suggestio accessibility team to wrk on 
vibration as I said some odon't have good feelings, and I 
encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I notice 
very soft ivationn  can be esmissed out.

third, I kee iphone watch more wateepof.

scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we 
nnneomething to make eaaio ke phone 
stingup for scanning.

sincerely,
ricj


-Original Message- From: Scott Davert
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello Jonathan.
I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we
can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been
conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to
email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've
already done, and I'm sure you have.
Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have
the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is
failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the
discussion yourself? You can also contact
supp...@applevis.com
with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any
advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could
help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner,
will go for.

Thanks for reading,
Scott

On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:



Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing
credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to
launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be
using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s
Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched
then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the
iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen
sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent
out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the
source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they
patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced
specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you
say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple
Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to
have been commented on extensively by many respected technology news sites,
including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and
Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up.
But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find
deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic
which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their
iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but
anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy
consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they
also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an
important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of
before it's too late, and for AppleVis to r

RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Rose Combs]

Yes, that is one reason I have not ever had a talking watch!  Clocks I can use 
in my home, sure, but when I am out and about I like being able to use a 
Braille Watch to tell the time.  

So, maybe I might want an Apple watch soon, but I need some very compelling 
reasons to actually make that purchase.  So far, I don’t see the real benefits. 
 

 

 

Rose Combs

 <mailto:roseco...@q.com> roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors

 

The one reason why I’m not an Apple  watch purchaser. 

For everything the device can do, not Being able to tell the time in a discrete 
manner is an absolute deal breaker for me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

 

Hi Rich, if Apple could work their magic to give us a haptic way to tell the 
time with Apple Watch, that would indeed be very cool.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/12/2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

scott and jonathan,

I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready until 
the fall of 2016. it says something.

somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with braille 
dddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their sers) and 
they should not forget about brialle acces

scott, I did send suggestio accessibility team to wrk on 
vibration as I said some odon't have good feelings, and I 
encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I notice 
very soft ivationn  can be esmissed out.

third, I kee iphone watch more wateepof.

scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we 
nnneomething to make eaaio ke phone 
stingup for scanning.

sincerely,
ricj


-Original Message- From: Scott Davert
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello Jonathan.
I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That
said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a
stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of
the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with
apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not
based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never.
Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we
can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been
conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to
email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've
already done, and I'm sure you have.
Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have
the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is
failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the
discussion yourself? You can also contact
supp...@applevis.com
with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any
advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could
help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner,
will go for.

Thanks for reading,
Scott

On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing
credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to
launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be
using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s
Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched
then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the
iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen
sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent
out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the
source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they
patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced
specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you
say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple
Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to
have been commented on extensively by many respected technology news sites,
including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Scott Davert]

February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
released in the fall?
I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
5C was not a success, so they may not bother.

Scott

On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I
>
> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones
>
> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rajmund
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
> Hello,
> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>>
>>
>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
>>
>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
>> which part of your message I didn't understand.
>>
>> Either way, I think we're all good now.
>>
>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure
>> > which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
>> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>> >> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>> >> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller
>> >> iPhone,
>> >> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>> >>
>> >> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the
>> >>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as
>> >>>
>> >>> well.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the
>> >>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been
>> >>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech
>> >>>>
>> >>>> report  on Fox  and  CNN
>> >>>>, so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a
>> >>>> smaller  phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4s  and  some of 

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their 
source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing credible 
sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to launch the 
Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be using the same 
chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s Plus, it's not 
beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched then. If there is to 
be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the iPhone 7 announcements. 
Those phones will of course be the current screen sizes.
As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent out 
of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the source is. 
We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they patented 
their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced specs for made 
for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you say, there is a pair 
of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple Store now. for 800 bucks. 
And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to have been commented on 
extensively by many respected technology news sites, including Cult of Mac, 9 
to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and Mashable. Even CBS has picked it 
up.
But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find 
deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic which 
could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their iPhones. It's 
not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but anyone who wants to 
use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy consumption, who appreciate 
being able to charge their phones while they also enjoy the privacy that the 
headphone jack affords. There is an important and unique use case here that 
Apple need to be made aware of before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain 
silent when many other Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of 
duty in my opinion. Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying 
silent on such an important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging 
users to complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think 
it's time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't
> released in the fall?
> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape
> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more
> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since
> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I
> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of
> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them
> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will
> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port
> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on
> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce
> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going
> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the
> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I
>> 
>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which
>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones
>> 
>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for
>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Rajmund
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
>>

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does 
contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what 
you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone 
would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that 
size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.


In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which 
also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure 
which part of your message I didn't understand.


Either way, I think we're all good now.

On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure which 
part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone,
it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.

On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but it 
does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of it 
bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the  
larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN
   , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of 
the 3gs

My thoughts for today


On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest episode 
where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this rumour 
has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 years ago. 
Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 
6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors


Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea to 
trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not want an 
adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost 
inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a 
two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were 
for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about 
this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email Apple 
and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a 
headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be 
what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also 
happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a 
headphone jack connected to them and might require that you plug

i

t into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this 
move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. 
We would not want that to happen just beca

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Devin Prater]

Well, when the iPhone 7 and 7+ come out, I'm getting the plus. Using all 6 dots 
for braille screen input, which I've found a small usage for, will be good, as 
well as the better battery life. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not sure I 
> understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't mean a low 
> budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone, it'll still be a 
> high quality top of the line smart phone.
> 
>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>> Hello,
>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but 
>> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of 
>> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  
>>> of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since 
>>>  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN
>>>  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
>>> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some 
>>> of the 3gs
>>> 
>>> My thoughts for today
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
>>>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
>>>> this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
>>>> up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 
>>>> 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone 
>>>> jack.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid 
>>>> idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do 
>>>> not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose 
>>>> it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. 
>>>> I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 
>>>> 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? 
>>>> This is just crazy.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem 
>>>>> with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the 
>>>>> lightning port.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chip
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of 
>>>>> some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. 
>>>>> So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are 
>>>>> also saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to 
>>>>> charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in 
>>>>> order for somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to 
>>>>> support a lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the 
>>>>> companies will think about this c

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Marie]

Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I 
will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which 
fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones 
just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for 
things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Rajmund

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello,
Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does
contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what
you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone
would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that
size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.

In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which
also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure
which part of your message I didn't understand.

Either way, I think we're all good now.

On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
> Hello,
> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure 
> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?

>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>>
>>
>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone,
>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
>>
>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the 
>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And 
>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as 
>>> well.

>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the 
>>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been 
>>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech 
>>>> report  on Fox  and  CNN
>>>>, so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a 
>>>> smaller  phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 
>>>> 4s  and  some of the 3gs

>>>>
>>>> My thoughts for today
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his 
>>>>> latest episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he 
>>>>> mentioned that this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I 
>>>>> think it did also come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that 
>>>>> that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus 
>>>>> and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten

>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a 
>>>>> stupid idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the 
>>>>> headphone jack. I do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for 
>>>>> it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I 
>>>>> would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar 
>>>>> item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were 
>>>>> for some seriously good reason, OK. But 

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :)

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does 
> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what 
> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone 
> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that 
> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone.
> 
> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which 
> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure 
> which part of your message I didn't understand.
> 
> Either way, I think we're all good now.
> 
> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote:
> > Hello,
> > If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure which 
> > part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not
> >> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't
> >> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone,
> >> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
> >>
> >> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, 
> >>> but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm 
> >>> worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  
> >>>> size  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  
> >>>> requested  since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech 
> >>>> report  on Fox  and  CNN
> >>>>, so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a 
> >>>> smaller  phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  
> >>>> and  some of the 3gs
> >>>>
> >>>> My thoughts for today
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> >>>>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned 
> >>>>> that this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did 
> >>>>> also come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod 
> >>>>> Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 
> >>>>> 3.5mm headphone jack.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid 
> >>>>> idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I 
> >>>>> do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to 
> >>>>> lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy 
> >>>>> another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just 
> >>>>> no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good 
> >>>>> reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
> >>>>> Mary
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not so sure this is such a deterrent for Apple. I already have to 
carry around separate charging/data cables for Apple since Apple uses a 
proprietary format over the standard USB options. In fact, having a 
proprietary headphone jack may mean an additional revenue stream for Apple.


On 08/12/15 01:26, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi Sieghard. But do you want to have to carry separate headphones for
your iDevices, and standard headphones for everything else. The 3.5 jack
is a functional, universal standard. All the other non-Appple devices
you use are not about to adopt the Lightning port. It's going to cause
disastrous fragmentation.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>


On 8/12/2015, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments
and why having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure
that if Jonathan says it is then there are very good reasons.

Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost
certain and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets
in a very short time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The
accessory market for Apple products is just too big for all the major
players not to jump onto this bandwagon.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monica Jones
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's
very simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me,
I'm letting Apple Know what I think of the idea.


-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem
with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the
lightning port.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
nicholasacosta...@gmail.com <mailto:nicholasacosta...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of
some
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So,
this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are
also
saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge
the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in
order for
somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a
lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the
companies will
think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true,
please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think
that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use
Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a
headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers
that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to
them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in
order to
use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do
any
good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to
happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the
iPhone 7 is
still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell
Apple what
we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep
quiet.
We need to try.

Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've heard this as well, and I may hold on to my 4S until the fall to 
get a smaller iPhone 7, if indeed Apple does come out with one.


On 08/12/15 06:56, terrie arnold wrote:

I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the  
larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN
  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone 
, and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs

My thoughts for today


On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest episode 
where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this rumour 
has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 years ago. 
Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 
6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors


Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea to 
trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not want an 
adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost 
inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a 
two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were 
for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about 
this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email Apple 
and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a 
headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be 
what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also 
happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a 
headphone jack connected to them and might require that you plug it

into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this 
move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. 
We would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change. Please 
remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just rumors. As 
long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we 
can't just keep quiet. We need to try.


Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Devin Prater]

Also, not even the Macs have Lightning ports, so its not just "all Apple 
devices", just the iPhone, which would be laughable fragmentation on Apple's 
part. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 1:26 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard. But do you want to have to carry separate headphones for your 
> iDevices, and standard headphones for everything else. The 3.5 jack is a 
> functional, universal standard. All the other non-Appple devices you use are 
> not about to adopt the Lightning port. It's going to cause disastrous 
> fragmentation.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 8/12/2015, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments and why 
>> having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure that if 
>> Jonathan says it is then there are very good reasons.
>> 
>> Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost 
>> certain and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets in a 
>> very short time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The accessory market 
>> for Apple products is just too big for all the major players not to jump 
>> onto this bandwagon.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Monica Jones
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's very 
>> simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me, I'm letting 
>> Apple Know what I think of the idea.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Chip Orange
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>> port.
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
>> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
>> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
>> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
>> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
>> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
>> We need to try.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[terrie arnold]

I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the  
larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
 , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone 
, and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs

My thoughts for today

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this 
> rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 
> years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm 
> thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
> to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not 
> want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which 
> is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it 
> won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. 
> If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>> port.
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
>> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
>> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
>> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
>> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
>> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
>> We need to try.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[terrie arnold]

My thoughts for today

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments and why 
> having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure that if 
> Jonathan says it is then there are very good reasons.
> 
> Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost 
> certain and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets in a 
> very short time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The accessory market 
> for Apple products is just too big for all the major players not to jump onto 
> this bandwagon.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Monica Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's very 
> simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me, I'm letting 
> Apple Know what I think of the idea.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chip Orange
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
> We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Wayne Merritt]

There have been rumors of smaller iPhones for the last few years and
it hasn't happened yet. Not to say that it won't but just that this
rumor has made the rounds a few times before. We won't know until next
June. Rest assured that there will be plenty of rumors though, and
many from good sources, like CNN or CNET. Given that it took Apple a
long time to finally get larger phones, and that many competitor
phones are larger than the 6S+, I don't know how likely the smaller
iPhone rumor is, but who knows.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but
> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of
> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>>
>>
>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size
>> of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested
>> since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox
>> and  CNN
>>  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller
>> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some
>> of the 3gs
>>
>> My thoughts for today
>>
>> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest
>> > episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that
>> > this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also
>> > come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is
>> > almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm
>> > headphone jack.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid
>> > idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I
>> > do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to
>> > lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy
>> > another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no
>> > reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason,
>> > OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem
>> >> with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the
>> >> lightning port.
>> >>
>> >> Chip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> >> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of
>> >> some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone
>> >> jack. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But,
>> >> reports are also saying that they might use the lightning connector
>> >> that you use to charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But,
>> >> that means that in order for somebody's headphones to fit into that
>> >> Jack, they will need to support a lightning connector for the
>> >> headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about this
>> >> change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email
>> >> Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if
>> >> there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth.
>> >> But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone
>> >&g

To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Iolaire]

Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and it was 
small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is true it is 
much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a really sturdy 
case with a screen protector and although this increases the size dramatically, 
you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to take the phone from the 
case, the phone seams very small in comparison so it is really a matter of 
getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is rigid and there is no danger of 
bending, I think that issue was with the 6+ but not the 6.  The price certainly 
is an issue but it depends on how much storage you want.  Obviously an 8gig 6 
is going to be substantially cheaper than a 128gig 6 so you will find prices 
vary depending on capacity.  I don't think Apple are doing the 6 in 128gig any 
more, or at least they didn't have on their web site and when I went to the 
apple store, they only had one 128gig left, which I grabbed.  Although I 
wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second hand rout and if you are in 
the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where I've seen a few iPhone 6's on 
offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well as Amazon if you want an 
unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a contract with a carrier and 
get a phone included in the package, it just depends on how much you can afford 
and if you want your phone locked to that network.  I'm with Vodafone and have 
a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month contract and I get unlimited texts, 
unlimited calls to geographic and non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per 
month.  Plus I get spotify and other movie and entertainment packages which are 
normally premium services but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me 
£18.50 (around $28) per month.  So there are loads of options out there but I 
can assure you the iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but it 
does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of it 
bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
> the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the 
>  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
>  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of 
> the 3gs
> 
> My thoughts for today
> 
> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> > episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
> > this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
> > up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 
> > mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid 
> > idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do 
> > not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, 
> > which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm 
> > sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 
> > mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This 
> > is just crazy.
> > Mary
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> >> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the 
> >> lightning port.
> >> 
> >> Chip
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >&

Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[terrie arnold]

wwith  the  new 6s phones  they  can  be taken  to any  carrier, and  comming  
at  the  end of Dece. you can  no longer  say  that  you are  leasing  the 
phone  for 21  or 24  months  and at the end  of  the leasing  time  you can  
buy the phone  for $200  , so  you  have  the monthly  fee  of $50  or  so  and 
$10 to 20  on  top  as the  fee that  you  pay to lease  the  phone .
 so  if  you can upgrade  your phone  and  you are  with  Sprint  as  they are  
the  last  company  to  change  to a leasing  package. My son works  for  
Sprint  and he told  me  of  this  change,and  told  me  that  I should  pass 
along  this  information  to  you all.
so  if you are  thinking  of upgrading  please  do  think of doing  it  before  
the 31st , if you are  with  Sprint lo

My thoughts for today

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and it 
> was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is true it 
> is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a really 
> sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases the size 
> dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to take the 
> phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so it is really 
> a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is rigid and there is 
> no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the 6+ but not the 6.  The 
> price certainly is an issue but it depends on how much storage you want.  
> Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially cheaper than a 128gig 6 so 
> you will find prices vary depending on capacity.  I don't think Apple are 
> doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at least they didn't have on their web 
> site and when I went to the apple store, they only had one 128gig left, which 
> I grabbed.  Although I wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second 
> hand rout and if you are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where 
> I've seen a few iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well 
> as Amazon if you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a 
> contract with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just 
> depends on how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that 
> network.  I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month 
> contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls to geographic and 
> non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus I get spotify and 
> other movie and entertainment packages which are normally premium services 
> but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 (around $28) per 
> month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can assure you the 
> iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> Hello,
> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but 
> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of 
> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  
>> of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  
>> the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
>> , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
>> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of 
>> the 3gs
>> 
>> My thoughts for today
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
>>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
>>> this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
>>> up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 
>>> mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroup

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I have to admit, I like them chargers. Insures that no one will take it, unless 
they have an IOS device. 

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> I'm not so sure this is such a deterrent for Apple. I already have to 
> carry around separate charging/data cables for Apple since Apple uses a 
> proprietary format over the standard USB options. In fact, having a 
> proprietary headphone jack may mean an additional revenue stream for Apple.
> 
> On 08/12/15 01:26, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> > Hi Sieghard. But do you want to have to carry separate headphones for
> > your iDevices, and standard headphones for everything else. The 3.5 jack
> > is a functional, universal standard. All the other non-Appple devices
> > you use are not about to adopt the Lightning port. It's going to cause
> > disastrous fragmentation.
> > Jonathan Mosen
> > Mosen Consulting
> > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>
> >
> >> On 8/12/2015, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
> >> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments
> >> and why having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure
> >> that if Jonathan says it is then there are very good reasons.
> >>
> >> Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost
> >> certain and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets
> >> in a very short time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The
> >> accessory market for Apple products is just too big for all the major
> >> players not to jump onto this bandwagon.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Sieghard
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monica Jones
> >> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>
> >> I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's
> >> very simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me,
> >> I'm letting Apple Know what I think of the idea.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Chip Orange
> >> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors
> >>
> >> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem
> >> with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the
> >> lightning port.
> >>
> >> Chip
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com <mailto:nicholasacosta...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of
> >> some
> >> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So,
> >> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are
> >> also
> >> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge
> >> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in
> >> order for
> >> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a
> >> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the
> >> companies will
> >> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true,
> >> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think
> >> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use
> >> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a
> >> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers
> >> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to
> >> them and might require that you

Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Wayne Merritt]

The days of getting a new phone on carrier contract are fading fast.
Like was said before, if you want a phone on contract then hit those
carriers quick. My wife and I got new 6S's in September through
T-Mobile and signed onto the new lease program, paying a certain
amount per month. If we had waited until the iPhone 7 next fall, then
we would probably have had to get on the lease program through AT,
which would have been much more expensive. T-Mobile let us trade in
our prior phones which brought the monthly cost way down. For
instance, I am paying $5 per month to lease the 6S, and my wife is
paying $15 a month I think. I think that contracts are only offered in
stores but that will likely disappear in the next 6-12 months and
everyone will be leasing--whether you want to or not.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> wwith  the  new 6s phones  they  can  be taken  to any  carrier, and
> comming  at  the  end of Dece. you can  no longer  say  that  you are
> leasing  the phone  for 21  or 24  months  and at the end  of  the leasing
> time  you can  buy the phone  for $200  , so  you  have  the monthly  fee
> of $50  or  so  and $10 to 20  on  top  as the  fee that  you  pay to lease
> the  phone .
>  so  if  you can upgrade  your phone  and  you are  with  Sprint  as  they
> are  the  last  company  to  change  to a leasing  package. My son works
> for  Sprint  and he told  me  of  this  change,and  told  me  that  I should
>  pass along  this  information  to  you all.
> so  if you are  thinking  of upgrading  please  do  think of doing  it
> before  the 31st , if you are  with  Sprint lo
>
> My thoughts for today
>
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and
>> it was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is
>> true it is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a
>> really sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases the
>> size dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to
>> take the phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so
>> it is really a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is
>> rigid and there is no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the
>> 6+ but not the 6.  The price certainly is an issue but it depends on how
>> much storage you want.  Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially
>> cheaper than a 128gig 6 so you will find prices vary depending on
>> capacity.  I don't think Apple are doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at
>> least they didn't have on their web site and when I went to the apple
>> store, they only had one 128gig left, which I grabbed.  Although I
>> wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second hand rout and if you
>> are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where I've seen a few
>> iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well as Amazon if
>> you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a contract
>> with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just depends on
>> how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that network.
>>  I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month
>> contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls to geographic and
>> non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus I get spotify
>> and other movie and entertainment packages which are normally premium
>> services but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 (around
>> $28) per month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can assure
>> you the iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>
>> Hello,
>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size,
>> but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm
>> worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size
>>>  of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested
>>> since  the  larger 6s came  out. I 

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Rajmund]

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but it 
does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of it 
bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
> the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the 
>  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
>  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of 
> the 3gs
> 
> My thoughts for today
> 
> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> > episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
> > this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
> > up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 
> > mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid 
> > idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do 
> > not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, 
> > which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm 
> > sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 
> > mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This 
> > is just crazy.
> > Mary
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> >> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the 
> >> lightning port.
> >> 
> >> Chip
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of 
> >> some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. 
> >> So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are 
> >> also saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to 
> >> charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in 
> >> order for somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to 
> >> support a lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the 
> >> companies will think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this 
> >> rumor is true, please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, 
> >> people might think that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still 
> >> be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else 
> >> lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any 
> >> Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a headphone 
> >> jack connected to them and might require that you plug it into the 
> >> headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this move 
> >> because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. 
> >> We would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change. 
> >> Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just 
> >> rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might 
> >> listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.
> >> 
> >> Thank you.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
> >> list.
> >> 
&g

RE: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Iolaire]

Hi.  No, I have 10 g for 12 months and also the unlimited texts and unlimited 
calls to geographical and nongeographical numbers is for 12 months.  The 
spotify and other entertainment packages are only free for 3 months and they 
are of course hoping I will continue but they are mistaken, I won't.  With my 
standby phone (iPhone 5c 8gig) I have a PAYG bundle.  for £10 I get 150 hours 
free calls, unlimited texts and 500mg data.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 08 December 2015 16:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

Hello,
I never had a phone before, but in general, I want something that can fit into 
a pocket, easily be hidden, and fit into 1 hand. I've seen a 6, and a 6 plus, 
the latter is certainly way way way too big for my likings.
Getting used to it,, I think you're right. However, as mentioned above, I have 
used note takers, iPads, and I now want something tiny. I am able to carry 
around things like a braille sense, but still, want something small, or at 
least, smaller. At this point, generally, a 5S with 32 GB can be bought for 
about £200, with a top up card. I think that will be where I start, and will go 
up. I don't keep music, but I do think you're really restricted with the 16 GB 
model, since its actually 12 GB.
I am actually in the UK, and second hand, or phone shops,  is what I am looking 
into. I actually have a  question about your contract. Is the 10 GB 3G or 4G 
only for 3 months, as well?

- Original Message -
From: Iolaire  <w...@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:25 pm
Subject: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and it 
> was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is true it 
> is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a really 
> sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases the size 
> dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to take the 
> phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so it is really 
> a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is rigid and there is 
> no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the 6+ but not the 6.  The 
> price certainly is an issue but it depends on how much storage you want.  
> Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially cheaper than a 128gig 6 so 
> you will find prices vary depending on capacity.  I don't think Apple are 
> doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at least they didn't have on their web 
> site and when I went to the apple store, they only had one 128gig left, which 
> I grabbed.  Although I wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second 
> hand rout and if you are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where 
> I've seen a few iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well 
> as Amazon if you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a 
> contract with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just 
> depends on how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that 
> network.  I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month 
> contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls to geographic and 
> non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus I get spotify and 
> other movie and entertainment packages which are normally premium services 
> but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 (around $28) per 
> month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can assure you the 
> iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> Hello,
> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but 
> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of 
> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> >
> >
> > I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  
> > of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since 
> >  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  
> > CNN 
> >  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
> > p

Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Mich Verrier]

hear in canada we still are able to get phones on contract. i am eligable 
for a new phone and am going to i think getthe 6 i can get it on a 2 year 
term for 270. so i might wate untill the new year.
- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerr...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors


The days of getting a new phone on carrier contract are fading fast.
Like was said before, if you want a phone on contract then hit those
carriers quick. My wife and I got new 6S's in September through
T-Mobile and signed onto the new lease program, paying a certain
amount per month. If we had waited until the iPhone 7 next fall, then
we would probably have had to get on the lease program through AT,
which would have been much more expensive. T-Mobile let us trade in
our prior phones which brought the monthly cost way down. For
instance, I am paying $5 per month to lease the 6S, and my wife is
paying $15 a month I think. I think that contracts are only offered in
stores but that will likely disappear in the next 6-12 months and
everyone will be leasing--whether you want to or not.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@gmail.com> wrote:

wwith  the  new 6s phones  they  can  be taken  to any  carrier, and
comming  at  the  end of Dece. you can  no longer  say  that  you are
leasing  the phone  for 21  or 24  months  and at the end  of  the leasing
time  you can  buy the phone  for $200  , so  you  have  the monthly  fee
of $50  or  so  and $10 to 20  on  top  as the  fee that  you  pay to 
lease

the  phone .
 so  if  you can upgrade  your phone  and  you are  with  Sprint  as  they
are  the  last  company  to  change  to a leasing  package. My son works
for  Sprint  and he told  me  of  this  change,and  told  me  that  I 
should

 pass along  this  information  to  you all.
so  if you are  thinking  of upgrading  please  do  think of doing  it
before  the 31st , if you are  with  Sprint lo

My thoughts for today


On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and
it was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is
true it is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a
really sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases 
the

size dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to
take the phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so
it is really a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is
rigid and there is no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the
6+ but not the 6.  The price certainly is an issue but it depends on how
much storage you want.  Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially
cheaper than a 128gig 6 so you will find prices vary depending on
capacity.  I don't think Apple are doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at
least they didn't have on their web site and when I went to the apple
store, they only had one 128gig left, which I grabbed.  Although I
wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second hand rout and if you
are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where I've seen a few
iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well as Amazon if
you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a contract
with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just depends 
on
how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that 
network.

 I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month
contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls to geographic and
non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus I get spotify
and other movie and entertainment packages which are normally premium
services but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 (around
$28) per month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can assure
you the iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Rajmund
Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size,
but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm
worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the 
size

 of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested
since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox
and  CNN
, so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you 

Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I never had a phone before, but in general, I want something that can fit into 
a pocket, easily be hidden, and fit into 1 hand. I've seen a 6, and a 6 plus, 
the latter is certainly way way way too big for my likings.
Getting used to it,, I think you're right. However, as mentioned above, I have 
used note takers, iPads, and I now want something tiny. I am able to carry 
around things like a braille sense, but still, want something small, or at 
least, smaller. At this point, generally, a 5S with 32 GB can be bought for 
about £200, with a top up card. I think that will be where I start, and will go 
up. I don't keep music, but I do think you're really restricted with the 16 GB 
model, since its actually 12 GB.
I am actually in the UK, and second hand, or phone shops,  is what I am looking 
into. I actually have a  question about your contract. Is the 10 GB 3G or 4G 
only for 3 months, as well?

- Original Message -
From: Iolaire  <w...@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:25 pm
Subject: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and it 
> was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is true it 
> is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a really 
> sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases the size 
> dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to take the 
> phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so it is really 
> a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is rigid and there is 
> no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the 6+ but not the 6.  The 
> price certainly is an issue but it depends on how much storage you want.  
> Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially cheaper than a 128gig 6 so 
> you will find prices vary depending on capacity.  I don't think Apple are 
> doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at least they didn't have on their web 
> site and when I went to the apple store, they only had one 128gig left, which 
> I grabbed.  Although I wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second 
> hand rout and if you are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where 
> I've seen a few iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well 
> as Amazon if you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a 
> contract with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just 
> depends on how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that 
> network.  I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only deal, it is a 12 month 
> contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls to geographic and 
> non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus I get spotify and 
> other movie and entertainment packages which are normally premium services 
> but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 (around $28) per 
> month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can assure you the 
> iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> Hello,
> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but 
> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of 
> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> >
> >
> > I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  
> > of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since 
> >  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  
> > CNN 
> >  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
> > phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some 
> > of the 3gs
> > 
> > My thoughts for today
> > 
> > > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> > > episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
> > > this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
> > > up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 
> > > 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[terrie arnold]

I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the  
larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
, so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone , 
and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs

My thoughts for today

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this 
> rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 
> years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm 
> thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
> to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not 
> want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which 
> is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it 
> won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. 
> If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>> port.
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
>> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
>> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
>> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
>> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
>> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
>> We need to try.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[rajmund]

Hello,
Still a yes.



Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

> On 8 Dec 2015, at 5:20 p.m., terrie arnold <terrieiph...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
> the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the 
>  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN 
> , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone 
> , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs
> 
> My thoughts for today
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
>> this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 
>> 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm 
>> thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
>> to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not 
>> want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, 
>> which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm 
>> sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? 
>> Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is 
>> just crazy.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>>> port.
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies 
>>> will think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is 
>>> true, please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might 
>>> think that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 
>>> is still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple 
>>> what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep 
>>> quiet. We need to try.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
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Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[rajmund]

Hello,
Wow, this actually sounds better than my plan. Getting a contract, that is. I 
shall look into it



Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors.

> On 8 Dec 2015, at 4:50 p.m., Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  No, I have 10 g for 12 months and also the unlimited texts and unlimited 
> calls to geographical and nongeographical numbers is for 12 months.  The 
> spotify and other entertainment packages are only free for 3 months and they 
> are of course hoping I will continue but they are mistaken, I won't.  With my 
> standby phone (iPhone 5c 8gig) I have a PAYG bundle.  for £10 I get 150 hours 
> free calls, unlimited texts and 500mg data.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: 08 December 2015 16:35
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors
> 
> Hello,
> I never had a phone before, but in general, I want something that can fit 
> into a pocket, easily be hidden, and fit into 1 hand. I've seen a 6, and a 6 
> plus, the latter is certainly way way way too big for my likings.
> Getting used to it,, I think you're right. However, as mentioned above, I 
> have used note takers, iPads, and I now want something tiny. I am able to 
> carry around things like a braille sense, but still, want something small, or 
> at least, smaller. At this point, generally, a 5S with 32 GB can be bought 
> for about £200, with a top up card. I think that will be where I start, and 
> will go up. I don't keep music, but I do think you're really restricted with 
> the 16 GB model, since its actually 12 GB.
> I am actually in the UK, and second hand, or phone shops,  is what I am 
> looking into. I actually have a  question about your contract. Is the 10 GB 
> 3G or 4G only for 3 months, as well?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Iolaire  <w...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:25 pm
> Subject: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and it 
>> was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is true 
>> it is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a really 
>> sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases the size 
>> dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to take the 
>> phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so it is 
>> really a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is rigid and 
>> there is no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the 6+ but not 
>> the 6.  The price certainly is an issue but it depends on how much storage 
>> you want.  Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially cheaper than a 
>> 128gig 6 so you will find prices vary depending on capacity.  I don't think 
>> Apple are doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at least they didn't have on 
>> their web site and when I went to the apple store, they only had one 128gig 
>> left, which I grabbed.  Although I wouldn't recommend it, you could go down 
>> the second hand rout and if you are in the uk, you could keep an eye on 
>> Recycle it where I've seen a few iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a 
>> good option as well as Amazon if you want an unlocked phone.  The other 
>> options are to go for a contract with a carrier and get a phone included in 
>> the package, it just depends on how much you can afford and if you want your 
>> phone locked to that network.  I'm with Vodafone and have a good sim only 
>> deal, it is a 12 month contract and I get unlimited texts, unlimited calls 
>> to geographic and non-geographic numbers and 10gig of data per month.  Plus 
>> I get spotify and other movie and entertainment packages which are normally 
>> premium services but I get them free for 3 months.  This costs me £18.50 
>> (around $28) per month.  So there are loads of options out there but I can 
>> assure you the iPhone 6 is rigid.  Walter.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: 08 December 2015 14:03
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> Hello,
>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but 
>> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of 
>> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well. 
>> 
>> - Origi

RE: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

[Rose Combs]

I have had a 6 since October 2014, no bending, no problems.  Only problem I had 
initially was that the screen was slightly larger than the 4S I used previously 
and my finger memory was slightly off.  It took a few days to not press in the 
wrong place, I flick the screens only when I absolutely need to do so it is 
time-consuming when for example I want to locate the phone app in the bottom 
left corner of the phone, I know where to find it on the screen and my finger 
goes there without having to hear every app on the home screen.  
I have no complaints about my 6.  I have even sat on it once without a bending 
problem, forgot it was in my pocket.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mich Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors

hear in canada we still are able to get phones on contract. i am eligable 
for a new phone and am going to i think getthe 6 i can get it on a 2 year 
term for 270. so i might wate untill the new year.
- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: To buy a 6 or not to buy a 6, was, iPhone seven rumors


The days of getting a new phone on carrier contract are fading fast.
Like was said before, if you want a phone on contract then hit those
carriers quick. My wife and I got new 6S's in September through
T-Mobile and signed onto the new lease program, paying a certain
amount per month. If we had waited until the iPhone 7 next fall, then
we would probably have had to get on the lease program through AT,
which would have been much more expensive. T-Mobile let us trade in
our prior phones which brought the monthly cost way down. For
instance, I am paying $5 per month to lease the 6S, and my wife is
paying $15 a month I think. I think that contracts are only offered in
stores but that will likely disappear in the next 6-12 months and
everyone will be leasing--whether you want to or not.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> wwith  the  new 6s phones  they  can  be taken  to any  carrier, and
> comming  at  the  end of Dece. you can  no longer  say  that  you are
> leasing  the phone  for 21  or 24  months  and at the end  of  the leasing
> time  you can  buy the phone  for $200  , so  you  have  the monthly  fee
> of $50  or  so  and $10 to 20  on  top  as the  fee that  you  pay to 
> lease
> the  phone .
>  so  if  you can upgrade  your phone  and  you are  with  Sprint  as  they
> are  the  last  company  to  change  to a leasing  package. My son works
> for  Sprint  and he told  me  of  this  change,and  told  me  that  I 
> should
>  pass along  this  information  to  you all.
> so  if you are  thinking  of upgrading  please  do  think of doing  it
> before  the 31st , if you are  with  Sprint lo
>
> My thoughts for today
>
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Iolaire <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi.  I understand your fears; I used to have an nokia 2210 navigator and
>> it was small and a really great size.  I now have the iPhone 6 and it is
>> true it is much larger but it is also much, much thinner.  I have it in a
>> really sturdy case with a screen protector and although this increases 
>> the
>> size dramatically, you do get used to it and on the occasions I have to
>> take the phone from the case, the phone seams very small in comparison so
>> it is really a matter of getting used to it.  The phone on it's own is
>> rigid and there is no danger of bending, I think that issue was with the
>> 6+ but not the 6.  The price certainly is an issue but it depends on how
>> much storage you want.  Obviously an 8gig 6 is going to be substantially
>> cheaper than a 128gig 6 so you will find prices vary depending on
>> capacity.  I don't think Apple are doing the 6 in 128gig any more, or at
>> least they didn't have on their web site and when I went to the apple
>> store, they only had one 128gig left, which I grabbed.  Although I
>> wouldn't recommend it, you could go down the second hand rout and if you
>> are in the uk, you could keep an eye on Recycle it where I've seen a few
>> iPhone 6's on offer.  Play.com is also a good option as well as Amazon if
>> you want an unlocked phone.  The other options are to go for a contract
>> with a carrier and get a phone included in the package, it just depends 
>> on
>> how much you can afford and if you want your phone locked to that 
>> network.
>>  I'm with Vodafone and ha

Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Christopher Chaltain]

First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not 
sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't 
mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone, 
it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.


On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but it 
does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of it 
bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  of 
the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  since  the  
larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  and  CNN
  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  phone 
, and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some of the 3gs

My thoughts for today


On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest episode 
where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this rumour 
has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 years ago. 
Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 
6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors


Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea to 
trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not want an 
adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost 
inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a 
two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were 
for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about 
this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email Apple 
and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a 
headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be 
what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also 
happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a 
headphone jack connected to them and might require that you plug i

t into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this 
move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. 
We would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change. Please 
remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just rumors. As 
long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we 
can't just keep quiet. We need to try.


Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Robin]

ForGive Me if someone already stated this, but I heard a NewsReport, 
which Hinted that Apple is SeriouslyConsidering releasing a Mini 
iPhone & it is Rumored ToBe ReferredTo as the Apple iPhone6C IN 
February2016 (Note: This Apple iPhone is rumored to have a 4Inch TouchScreen)

At 07:20 AM 12/8/2015, you wrote:

There have been rumors of smaller iPhones for the last few years and
it hasn't happened yet. Not to say that it won't but just that this
rumor has made the rounds a few times before. We won't know until next
June. Rest assured that there will be plenty of rumors though, and
many from good sources, like CNN or CNET. Given that it took Apple a
long time to finally get larger phones, and that many competitor
phones are larger than the 6S+, I don't know how likely the smaller
iPhone rumor is, but who knows.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just 
the size, but
> it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm 
worried of

> it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>
>>
>>
>> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size
>> of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested
>> since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox
>> and  CNN
>>  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller
>> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some
>> of the 3gs
>>
>> My thoughts for today
>>
>> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest
>> > episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that
>> > this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also
>> > come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is
>> > almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm
>> > headphone jack.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid
>> > idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I
>> > do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to
>> > lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy
>> > another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no
>> > reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason,
>> > OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
>> > Mary
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem
>> >> with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the
>> >> lightning port.
>> >>
>> >> Chip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> >> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of
>> >> some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone
>> >> jack. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But,
>> >> reports are also saying that they might use the lightning connector
>> >> that you use to charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But,
>> >> that means that in order for somebody's headphones to fit into that
>> >> Jack, they will need to support a lightning connector for the
>> >> headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about this
>> >> change if it happens. Remember, if this ru

RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Richard Turner]

According to my local ABC news channel last evening, the smaller, 4 inch, 
iPhone would likely be released in February.

I have no clue as to their source.  That is all they said about it.

Aren't rumors wonderful.

Richard

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree we'll have to wait and see, but one thing that's different about 
this year or the next is that the iPhone with the smaller footprint is 
getting rather long in the tooth. With the 5s getting older and maybe 
even not getting new IOS updates soon, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple 
releases a smaller iPhone 7 or 7S to keep a viable smaller iPhone as an 
option.


On 08/12/15 09:20, Wayne Merritt wrote:

There have been rumors of smaller iPhones for the last few years and
it hasn't happened yet. Not to say that it won't but just that this
rumor has made the rounds a few times before. We won't know until next
June. Rest assured that there will be plenty of rumors though, and
many from good sources, like CNN or CNET. Given that it took Apple a
long time to finally get larger phones, and that many competitor
phones are larger than the 6S+, I don't know how likely the smaller
iPhone rumor is, but who knows.

Wayne

On 12/8/15, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, but
it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm worried of
it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.

- Original Message -
From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors




I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size
of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested
since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox
and  CNN
  , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller
phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some
of the 3gs

My thoughts for today


On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest
episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that
this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also
come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is
almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm
headphone jack.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors


Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid
idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I
do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to
lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy
another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no
reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason,
OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem
with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the
lightning port.

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of
some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone
jack. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But,
reports are also saying that they might use the lightning connector
that you use to charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But,
that means that in order for somebody's headphones to fit into that
Jack, they will need to support a lightning connector for the
headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about this
change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email
Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if
there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth.
But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone
jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that
people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to
them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in
order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it
might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We
would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change.
Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just
rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might
listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.

Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Rajmund]

Hello,
If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure which 
part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please?

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

>
>
> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not 
> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't 
> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller iPhone, 
> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone.
> 
> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote:
> > Hello,
> > One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the size, 
> > but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And  I'm 
> > worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as well.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: terrie arnold  <terrieiph...@me.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm
> > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I have  heard  of them comming  back out  with a small  iphone  the  size  
> >> of the  5s , as  I have  heard  that  this size  has been  requested  
> >> since  the  larger 6s came  out. I heard  this  on a tech report  on Fox  
> >> and  CNN
> >>   , so what  do all  of you think about  this , would you  get a smaller  
> >> phone , and thoes  of you that are  hanging  on to the  5s, 4s  and  some 
> >> of the 3gs
> >>
> >> My thoughts for today
> >>
> >>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest 
> >>> episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that 
> >>> this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come 
> >>> up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 
> >>> 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone 
> >>> jack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid 
> >>> idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I 
> >>> do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to 
> >>> lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another 
> >>> one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason 
> >>> for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 
> >>> 1 mm? This is just crazy.
> >>> Mary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem 
> >>>> with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the 
> >>>> lightning port.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chip
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of 
> >>>> some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone 
> >>>> jack. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, 
> >>>> reports are also saying that they might use the lightning connector that 
> >>>> you use to charge the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that 
> >>>> means that in order for somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, 
> >>>> they will need to support a lightning connector for the

RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his latest episode 
where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he mentioned that this rumour 
has not surfaced for the first time, I think it did also come up 2 years ago. 
Secondly, he mentioned that that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 
6S or 6S Plus and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors


 Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not want 
an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which is 
almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't 
be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it 
were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
> might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
> that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
> to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
> connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think 
> about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please 
> email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if 
> there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, 
> this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is 
> better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? 
> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and might 
> require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that 
> Apple does not make this move because it might not do any good for them. The 
> iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because 
> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making 
> and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, 
> they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan,

Everybody has their preference, I'll take the wired Apple Earpods any day over 
a Bluetooth headset or earpiece. I do use Bluetooth for certain situations, but 
for every-day and all-day use I can't stand the lag of Bluetooth headsets. Yes, 
I know you mentioned before yours doesn't lag, but they all do and whether it 
bothers the user I think is in the way you use your phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

I think too that with Bluetooth ear peaces and head sets, most people won't 
want to be hampered by a cord.  I know I certainly don't.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
> might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
> that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
> to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
> connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think 
> about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please 
> email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if 
> there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, 
> this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is 
> better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? 
> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and might 
> require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that 
> Apple does not make this move because it might not do any good for them. The 
> iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because 
> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making 
> and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, 
> they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Sieghard. But do you want to have to carry separate headphones for your 
iDevices, and standard headphones for everything else. The 3.5 jack is a 
functional, universal standard. All the other non-Appple devices you use are 
not about to adopt the Lightning port. It's going to cause disastrous 
fragmentation.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 8/12/2015, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments and why 
> having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure that if 
> Jonathan says it is then there are very good reasons.
> 
> Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost 
> certain and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets in a 
> very short time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The accessory market 
> for Apple products is just too big for all the major players not to jump onto 
> this bandwagon.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Monica Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's very 
> simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me, I'm letting 
> Apple Know what I think of the idea.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chip Orange
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
> We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not familiar enough with the issues around hearing impairments and why 
having a 3.5mm headphone jack is important although I am sure that if Jonathan 
says it is then there are very good reasons.

Strictly from a headphone availability perspective one thing is almost certain 
and that is that we'll see a ton of lightning cable headsets in a very short 
time if Apple really goes ahead with this. The accessory market for Apple 
products is just too big for all the major players not to jump onto this 
bandwagon.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Monica Jones
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors

I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's very 
simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me, I'm letting 
Apple Know what I think of the idea.


-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.

Chip


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nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
We need to try.

Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Alan Paganelli]

I think too that with Bluetooth ear peaces and head sets, most people won't 
want to be hampered by a cord.  I know I certainly don't.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
> might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
> that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
> to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
> connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think 
> about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please 
> email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if 
> there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, 
> this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is 
> better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? 
> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and might 
> require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that 
> Apple does not make this move because it might not do any good for them. The 
> iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because 
> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making 
> and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, 
> they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[John Diakogeorgiou]

This rumour has gone around before and obviously proved to be false in the past.

On 12/7/15, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> Hey Mary,
>
> I hear your concerns, but we will not know what Apple has up it’s sleeve
> until it is out. Apple has maybe thought of this and has figured out a
> solution. I sure hope so, and I would hate to see people left out. We will
> just have to wait and see what comes out. Heres to hoping.
>
> Ed
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> Well, since Apple is supposedly so concerned about accessibility, I do
>> hope they take the needs of the hearing-impaired into account here. This
>> lightning solution is not going to do that.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everybody,
>>>
>>> I don’t think that removing the head phone jack will end up killing Apple
>>> in the long run, will people miss the head phone jack, yes. Will people
>>> say it is  a stupid idea, definitely. People thought that when Apple
>>> removed the DVD drive. Also when they used the CD drive instead of the
>>> floppy. I think it will workout in the end. Apple won’t leave us in the
>>> dark, so to speak.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> Ed
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[PHILLIP TRACY]

Unfortunately, many will not care about needing the adapter and the extra cost 
and all that. They'll just chalk it up to advancing technology, and for those 
who feel that way, great! However, there are plenty of reasons to keep the 
standard jack as is, go back and read Jonathan's blog entry posted a week or so 
ago. For those who are hearing impaired on top of needing voiceover there are 
real concerns here. Just take this thread back roughly a week or so and you'll 
see exactly why.

Phillip Tracy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
> to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not 
> want an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which 
> is almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it 
> won't be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. 
> If it were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
>> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
>> port.
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
>> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
>> this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
>> saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
>> the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
>> somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
>> think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
>> please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
>> that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
>> Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
>> headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
>> that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
>> them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
>> use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
>> good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
>> happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
>> still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
>> we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
>> We need to try.
>> 
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[Mary Otten]

Well, since Apple is supposedly so concerned about accessibility, I do hope 
they take the needs of the hearing-impaired into account here. This lightning 
solution is not going to do that.
Mary


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> On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hey everybody,
> 
> I don’t think that removing the head phone jack will end up killing Apple in 
> the long run, will people miss the head phone jack, yes. Will people say it 
> is  a stupid idea, definitely. People thought that when Apple removed the DVD 
> drive. Also when they used the CD drive instead of the floppy. I think it 
> will workout in the end. Apple won’t leave us in the dark, so to speak.
> 
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> 
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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mary,

I hear your concerns, but we will not know what Apple has up it’s sleeve until 
it is out. Apple has maybe thought of this and has figured out a solution. I 
sure hope so, and I would hate to see people left out. We will just have to 
wait and see what comes out. Heres to hoping.

Ed
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, since Apple is supposedly so concerned about accessibility, I do hope 
> they take the needs of the hearing-impaired into account here. This lightning 
> solution is not going to do that.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey everybody,
>> 
>> I don’t think that removing the head phone jack will end up killing Apple in 
>> the long run, will people miss the head phone jack, yes. Will people say it 
>> is  a stupid idea, definitely. People thought that when Apple removed the 
>> DVD drive. Also when they used the CD drive instead of the floppy. I think 
>> it will workout in the end. Apple won’t leave us in the dark, so to speak.
>> 
>> Just my opinion.
>> 
>> Ed
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RE: iPhone seven rumors

[Chip Orange]

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.

Chip


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Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about 
this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email Apple 
and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a 
headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be 
what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also 
happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a 
headphone jack connected to them and might require that you plug it into the 
headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this move 
because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We 
would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change. Please 
remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just rumors. As 
long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we 
can't just keep quiet. We need to try.

Thank you.

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Re: iPhone seven rumors

[Mary Otten]

 Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a stupid idea 
to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the headphone jack. I do not want 
an adapter. I do not want to pay for it, nor do I want to lose it, which is 
almost inevitable. And then I would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't 
be a two dollar item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it 
were for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
> buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
> port.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> nicholasacosta...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone seven rumors
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
> rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
> might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
> that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
> to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
> connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think 
> about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please 
> email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if 
> there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, 
> this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is 
> better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? 
> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and might 
> require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that 
> Apple does not make this move because it might not do any good for them. The 
> iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because 
> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making 
> and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, 
> they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. We need to try.
> 
> Thank you.
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[Monica Jones]

I don't like the idea; it's just another piece to keep up with. It's very 
simple to keep the jack instead of this craziness. Believe me, I'm letting 
Apple Know what I think of the idea.



-Original Message- 
From: Chip Orange

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone seven rumors

I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any problem with 
buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to plug into the lightning 
port.


Chip


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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone seven rumors



Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, 
this might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also 
saying that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge 
the iPhone to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for 
somebody's headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a 
lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will 
think about this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, 
please email Apple and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think 
that if there wasn't a headphone jack, we might still be able to use 
Bluetooth. But, this might not be what somebody else lights. Having a 
headphone jack is better. What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers 
that people own? These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to 
them and might require that you plug it into the headphone jack in order to 
use. I hope that Apple does not make this move because it might not do any 
good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We would not want that to 
happen just because Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is 
still in the making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what 
we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep quiet. 
We need to try.


Thank you.

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Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard of some 
rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a headphone jack. So, this 
might not be a good thing for Apple to do this. But, reports are also saying 
that they might use the lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone 
to use it as a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's 
headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a lightning 
connector for the headphones. I don't know what the companies will think about 
this change if it happens. Remember, if this rumor is true, please email Apple 
and tell them not to do this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a 
headphone jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not be 
what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. What will also 
happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? These speakers might have a 
headphone jack connected to them and might require that you plug it into the 
headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not make this move 
because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone sales might go down. We 
would not want that to happen just because Apple made this change. Please 
remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the making and these are just rumors. As 
long as we tell Apple what we want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we 
can't just keep quiet. We need to try.

Thank you.

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