Re: IOS 12 observations

[Mike Arrigo]

It's worked for me a few times but I think the power button will have 
to become my new talking clock button, not quite as convenient to reach 
if I'm laying in bed or something, but it is what it is.

Original message:

Hi Mike,


Well, I have the iPhone 8 Plus. On occasion, I can get the time 
announced but I have to use a really light touch on the home button for 
it to work. It’s certainly not consistent and certainly no longer reliable.



Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not 
being announced when waking the phone with the home button.

Original message:

that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 though.
Original message:

I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, sometimes
does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.



So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.



As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
with announcing the time.



Pam




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This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
Original message:

aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having this
problemHonestly



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So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.



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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Ketan,

1. Type the word you want to look up.

2. Turn the rotor to Edit.

3. Choose Select.

4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."

5. Choose "Look up."

A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
selected, as well as any other relevant sources.

Best,
Anna






> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
> present.  Please do let me know.
> 
> With best regards,
> 
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, It's in keyboard settings.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten  wrote:
Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in
there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic
settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and
I didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which
ones I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
Mary


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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
> 1. Type the word you want to look up.
>
> 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
>
> 3. Choose Select.
>
> 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
>
> 5. Choose "Look up."
>
> A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you
selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
>> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
>> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
>> present.  Please do let me know.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Ketan
>>
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Mary Otten]

OK. I went into settings, general, keyboard, and the only thing I found was 
dictation languages. Is that what it is? I thought it was something where you 
could look stuff up. I already have two of them. And it didn’t show me a 
listing for anymore. So if I know something in English and want to know how to 
say it say in Arabic, I can type English. I cannot type Arabic, and I don’t 
want an Arabic keyboard, even if there is one. I guess that means I can’t do 
that kind of look up. I thought I remembered hearing that there was an Arabic 
dictionary now available. But perhaps I just totally missed the boat.

Mary


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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, It's in keyboard settings. 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten  wrote:
> Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in 
> there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic 
> settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and I 
> didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which 
> ones I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ketan,
> > 
> > 1. Type the word you want to look up.
> > 
> > 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
> > 
> > 3. Choose Select.
> > 
> > 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
> > 
> > 5. Choose "Look up."
> > 
> > A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
> > selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Anna
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi friends,
> >> 
> >> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
> >> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
> >> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
> >> present.  Please do let me know.
> >> 
> >> With best regards,
> >> 
> >> Ketan
> >> 
> >> -- 
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> >> Phone: [r] 24223281,
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Re: iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I re download attunes and I could not find the update in the app store
adrian Leong
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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Check the App Store, there has been an update that fixed this very issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, I have been using OOTunes for many years, it's my favorite radio 
>> app.
>> So, I went to my favorites list, started a station, and to pick
>> another one, I pressed the Back button, and chose another stream,
>> started it, and was again able to press the Back button to the list of
>> favorites.
>> I am not certain whether this is the exact scenario that you are
>> describing, but this is how I have always operated OOTunes, including
>> now in IOS 12.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> On 9/20/18, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this
>>> app in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming
>>> apps) user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so
>>> streams in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the
>>> initial one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver
>>> goes silent, ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable
>>> conditions appear.
>>> 
>>> This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave
>>> ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other
>>> streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate
>>> either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
>>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>>> 
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Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[karuna Chopra]

You will first have to grant permission to Siri shortcuts to access the camera 
and the photos apps. After that you will see this say cheese shortcut option in 
Siri shortcuts.
Best of luck!


On 20-Sep-2018, at 11:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

I can’t seem to find it: I type Cheese and tried typing Picture into the 
Galaries Galary’s Search but it insists no results. Might you have the link for 
this one? maybe in Spanish it’s a different name?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 5:08 a. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
escribió:

> It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:
> 
> 1. Open the Shortcuts app
> 2. Tap on Gallery
> 3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
> 4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
> 5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
> Cheese shortcut listed.
> 6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your 
> camera and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a 
> picture is taken.
> 7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
> look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
> heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
> 8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
> Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
> camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
> Selfi".
> 9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
> at the top right of that screen.
> 10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
> "Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold 
> the phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 
> 2 seconds or so.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
> Chopra
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
> To: ViPhone 
> Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut
> 
> Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
> confusing.
> Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking 
> a photo automatically.
> It seems impossible to set up!
> Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an 
> activate this shortcut? 
> Thank you very much!
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Re: iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

[Julian]

Hi,

Check the App Store, there has been an update that fixed this very issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I have been using OOTunes for many years, it's my favorite radio 
> app.
> So, I went to my favorites list, started a station, and to pick
> another one, I pressed the Back button, and chose another stream,
> started it, and was again able to press the Back button to the list of
> favorites.
> I am not certain whether this is the exact scenario that you are
> describing, but this is how I have always operated OOTunes, including
> now in IOS 12.
> Thanks.
> 
>> On 9/20/18, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this
>> app in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming
>> apps) user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so
>> streams in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the
>> initial one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver
>> goes silent, ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable
>> conditions appear.
>> 
>> This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave
>> ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other
>> streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate
>> either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>> 
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Re: bug in Books"

[regina alvarado]

Mark, thank you for the answer. I have called accessibility, and the gentleman 
has escalated the problem to the engineers. He told me basically the same 
thing, but he tried to tell me I had to have speak screen on, and I didn't have 
to to have it read continuously. The image problem makes sense. I just hate 
that speak screen, and when he checked it, it is not hooked to zoice over. He 
left me at so sorry can't help, but he said he would send to the engineers. 
Everyone please write to accessibility about this. Thanks.

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Sep 20, 2018, at 12:57 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Regina,

The issue you are describing is one that I reported to Apple back in iOS 9 or 
so.  

The problem has to do with how images are imbedded into the book, itself.  

For example, in the recently released iOS 12 book, if you can place focus just 
after a certain image or another, continuous reading will go on for a very, 
very, very long time until another such image is encountered.  Of course, this 
workaround only exists if you can see the images.  

Regardless, I will, along with you and others, I hope, report this bug to Apple.

Mark

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regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:14 AM
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Subject: bug in Books"

A question. Has anyone had a problem with continuous reading in Books (iBooks?) 
I have cycled off and on my phone, hard re-booted my phone and looked under 
settings and books to see if there is a setting. What have I not done? Is there 
a setting in accessibility? I would rather not have the speak screen on if 
possible, but if I need it where do I go to find it? Also, I can get it to 
continuously read 2 pages and then at the bottom of the second page it stops 
and I have to use the picker to turn the page. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. 
Running iPhone X with IOS 12. Oh, just thought about deleting and reinstalling. 
How do I get a clean copy or will I just delete everything and then get back 
what I have? Thanks again for any help on this.


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gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, go to settings > general and keep flicking until you hear dictionary. 
double tap on that and you will see a whole bunch of dictionaries you can add.

Get Outlook for iOS


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Subject: Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

OK. I went into settings, general, keyboard, and the only thing I found was 
dictation languages. Is that what it is? I thought it was something where you 
could look stuff up. I already have two of them. And it didn’t show me a 
listing for anymore. So if I know something in English and want to know how to 
say it say in Arabic, I can type English. I cannot type Arabic, and I don’t 
want an Arabic keyboard, even if there is one. I guess that means I can’t do 
that kind of look up. I thought I remembered hearing that there was an Arabic 
dictionary now available. But perhaps I just totally missed the boat.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Maria Reyes 
mailto:blindstar2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, It's in keyboard settings.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in there, 
and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic settings app 
down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and I didn’t see 
anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which ones I want? 
It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner 
> mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
> 1. Type the word you want to look up.
>
> 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
>
> 3. Choose Select.
>
> 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
>
> 5. Choose "Look up."
>
> A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
> selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari 
>> mailto:muktake...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
>> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
>> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
>> present.  Please do let me know.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Ketan
>>
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

It's called Dictionary and is near the bottom of General Settings.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 20, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, It's in keyboard settings. 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten  > wrote:
> Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in 
> there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic 
> settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and I 
> didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which 
> ones I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ketan,
> > 
> > 1. Type the word you want to look up.
> > 
> > 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
> > 
> > 3. Choose Select.
> > 
> > 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
> > 
> > 5. Choose "Look up."
> > 
> > A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
> > selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Anna
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi friends,
> >> 
> >> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
> >> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
> >> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
> >> present.  Please do let me know.
> >> 
> >> With best regards,
> >> 
> >> Ketan
> >> 
> >> -- 
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iPhone XS paired with the latest Galaxy watch?

[karuna Chopra]

The latest galaxy watch is sleek and awesome, standby time of over five days, 
LTE connectivity, sleep and health monitoring, Great navigation, support for 
over 39 exercise routines, etc. etc. 
Has anyone paired the galaxy watch with the iPhone? If so, please give us your 
comments.
How accessible is it?
Thank you  
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Restoring from iTunes

[Gordon]

So I'm going with the iPhone 8 which I will be getting here in an hour 
or so. I have my backup in iTunes ready to go, but I wont have sighted 
assistance until later tonight. Has anyone restored from iTunes since 
upgrading to IOS 12? Someone had posted out here a couple of days ago 
that they had an issue when the phone came back up and VO didn't speak 
for them to enter the password so that iTunes could finish the process. 
So I'm just wondering if there's anything I can do to keep this from 
happening?


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Re: iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Bill and everybody;
I am not having any issues with  oOtunes.
I’ve been using it for nine years and it’s a great app.
God bless.
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I have been using OOTunes for many years, it's my favorite radio 
> app.
> So, I went to my favorites list, started a station, and to pick
> another one, I pressed the Back button, and chose another stream,
> started it, and was again able to press the Back button to the list of
> favorites.
> I am not certain whether this is the exact scenario that you are
> describing, but this is how I have always operated OOTunes, including
> now in IOS 12.
> Thanks.
> 
>> On 9/20/18, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this
>> app in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming
>> apps) user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so
>> streams in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the
>> initial one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver
>> goes silent, ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable
>> conditions appear.
>> 
>> This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave
>> ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other
>> streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate
>> either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Mary Otten]

Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in there, 
and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic settings app 
down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and I didn’t see 
anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which ones I want? 
It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
Mary


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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ketan,
> 
> 1. Type the word you want to look up.
> 
> 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
> 
> 3. Choose Select.
> 
> 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
> 
> 5. Choose "Look up."
> 
> A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
> selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
>> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
>> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
>> present.  Please do let me know.
>> 
>> With best regards,
>> 
>> Ketan
>> 
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iPhoneXS Wonderful

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
very happy with the new phone. I had difficulties transferring settings from my 
6. Once I got my sited wife to help we got it. It took me quite sometime to get 
the swipe gestures down pat. I was holding my finger to long before swiping up 
or down.
Thanks to everybody who has passed on tips over the pas year.
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RE: Getting rid of the confirmation message when deleting a conversation in the messages app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not currently possible.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting rid of the confirmation message when deleting a 
conversation in the messages app



On 21-Sep-2018, at 4:34 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

It seems to me that are used to have my Messages app set such that if I hit 
delete on a message or a message conversation, it would go away without asking 
me if I wanted to delete it. Maybe I’m just miss remembering. That changed at 
some point, not with iOS 12 however. I would like to stop this behavior. I want 
to have the conversation go away without the confirmation being necessary. I 
looked in settings for Messages, and I don’t see that choice in there. Is it 
somewhere else? Or is it just not possible?
Mary


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But this feature has been there since iOS 11.0
I have searched over the settings and also checked on the Apple support site. 
There seems to be no way around it!
Perhaps  we could send a request to the Apple support team?

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Re: Getting rid of the confirmation message when deleting a conversation in the messages app

[karuna Chopra]

On 21-Sep-2018, at 4:34 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

It seems to me that are used to have my Messages app set such that if I hit 
delete on a message or a message conversation, it would go away without asking 
me if I wanted to delete it. Maybe I’m just miss remembering. That changed at 
some point, not with iOS 12 however. I would like to stop this behavior. I want 
to have the conversation go away without the confirmation being necessary. I 
looked in settings for Messages, and I don’t see that choice in there. Is it 
somewhere else? Or is it just not possible?
Mary


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But this feature has been there since iOS 11.0
I have searched over the settings and also checked on the Apple support site. 
There seems to be no way around it!
Perhaps  we could send a request to the Apple support team?

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All did not go well

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
Well I thought my setup of new phone went OK but I don’t have any of my 
messages and none of my email settings or messages. Should I do a restore from 
an iTunes backup on my Mac?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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SPECIAL RELEASE: Helping Hands for the Blind has Mystic Access iOS training packages for 10 qualifying recipients

[Alan Lemly]

September 20, 2018

 

SPECIAL RELEASE

 

From: Helping Hands for the Blind

 

Helping Hands for the Blind, a 501c3 organization is proud to announce that
we have received a monetary donation from an anonymous donor. This  person
has provided us with funds to purchase ten sets of iOS training produced by
Mystic Access titled Sweet Success with iOS: Foundational Audio Modules One
Through Six.

 

 

To qualify for a set of these modules, please write to Robert Acosta:
boaco...@pacbell.net.

 

The anonymous donor prefers that these applicants who must be legally blind
know how to download and have some familiarity with IOS devices.

 

We again thank our anonymous donor for their most generous financial
donation.

 

Robert Acosta, President

Helping Hands for the Blind

 

 

Robert Acosta, President

Helping Hands for the Blind

(818) 998-0044

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AirPower referenced in iPhone XS packaging, iOS 12.1 code shows continuing development - 9To5Mac

[Maria Reyes]

AirPower referenced in iPhone XS packaging, iOS 12.1 code shows continuing 
development
Guilherme Rambo - Sep. 20th 2018 4:53 pm PT

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Noticeably missing from last week’s Apple event was AirPower, which was 
originally announced during the September 2017 event. AirPower is a charging 
mat capable of charging up to three devices simultaneously, but recent reports 
have suggested Apple has hit a series of engineering issues with the accessory.

Now, the iPhone XS packaging, as well as iOS 12.1, suggest that AirPower isn’t 
dead just yet.


 

AirPower isn’t a simple combination of three different Qi chargers, but rather 
an extension of the Qi standard that allows you to place the devices on any 
area of the mat. It also features very close integration with iOS, so when 
you’re charging an iPhone alongside other devices, your iPhone becomes a 
display for the AirPower, showing the status for each device through a slick 
interface.

The complexity of AirPower has apparently caused a slew of issues for 
engineers, which is why it’s still not for sale more than a year after its 
announcement. Originally, Apple said AirPower would be available “in 2018,” so 
while the company technically hasn’t missed its deadline, it’s clearly running 
down to the wire.

However, new evidence from the iPhone XS and iOS 12.1 suggests that, while it 
may be delayed, development of AirPower continues.

Looking into iOS 12.1, we noticed that the component of iOS responsible for 
managing the charging interface that appears when using AirPower has been 
updated, which means that Apple is still actively working on the project.

Furthermore, a picture of the “getting started guide” that comes packaged with 
the iPhone XS clearly mentions AirPower. “Place iPhone with screen facing up on 
AirPower or a Qi-certified wireless charger,” it reads. The image was shared on 
Twitter by Gavin Stephens.

If Apple was planning on cancelling the project altogether, then it would 
definitely not be mentioning it in the packaging of the brand new devices.

Are you still excited for AirPower? Let us know in the comments below!


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Re: I am no longer able to double tap on address field in mail app to see the address of the sender.

[Amy Ruell]

If I Double tap on details and then the address field it works. I wonder if 
some setting has been changed I never used to use this additional stuff thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
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> I just tried this on your address.  It worked with no problem.
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>> 
>> used to do this on a regular basis to identify spam email. If I double tap 
>> on the senders address or double tap and hold, this information is no longer 
>> revealed. Can anyone else duplicate this? Thanks.
>> Amy
>> 
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Problems with iPhone 7

[Tom Lange]

Hi, 
I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not sure if 
an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer want and 
I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind of Actions list 
anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem to get 3d touch to 
work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on here? Any thoughts? 

Tom 

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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. I’m interested in foreign language stuff, so I don’t think word web is 
an option here. At least it didn’t used to be. So we’ll see how this goes.
Mary thanks. I’m interested in foreign-language stuff, so I don’t think word we 
have is an option here. At least it didn’t used to be. So we’ll see how this 
goes.
Mary


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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> The right place is in setttings, general, dictionary. It is right near the 
> language and region button. Double-tap on dictionary and select the ictionary 
> and thesaurus you want to use from the options. Once that's done, they should 
> download and be ready for use.
> 
> While you're writing something, you can type the word, turn the rotor to 
> "edit", swipe down until you get to "select" and double-tap that. Swipe down 
> again until you reach the "look up" option in the edit menu. Double-tap that 
> and you'll be presended with a screen containing any information about the 
> word from various available sources including the dictionary and thesaurus. 
> Personally, I don't find anything from the thesaurus but the dictionary works 
> great.
> 
> For me, third party apps have proven far more useful. A good starting one is 
> Wordweb. It can work along with the Chambers dictionary and thesaurus apps if 
> you need heavier artillary. Hope that helps. 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:25 PM Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> Hi, go to settings > general and keep flicking until you hear dictionary. 
>> double tap on that and you will see a whole bunch of dictionaries you can 
>> add.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>  
>> From: 20375670060n behalf of 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to use onboard dictionaries
>>  
>> OK. I went into settings, general, keyboard, and the only thing I found was 
>> dictation languages. Is that what it is? I thought it was something where 
>> you could look stuff up. I already have two of them. And it didn’t show me a 
>> listing for anymore. So if I know something in English and want to know how 
>> to say it say in Arabic, I can type English. I cannot type Arabic, and I 
>> don’t want an Arabic keyboard, even if there is one. I guess that means I 
>> can’t do that kind of look up. I thought I remembered hearing that there was 
>> an Arabic dictionary now available. But perhaps I just totally missed the 
>> boat.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, It's in keyboard settings. 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in 
>>> there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic 
>>> settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and 
>>> I didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which 
>>> ones I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi Ketan,
>>> > 
>>> > 1. Type the word you want to look up.
>>> > 
>>> > 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
>>> > 
>>> > 3. Choose Select.
>>> > 
>>> > 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
>>> > 
>>> > 5. Choose "Look up."
>>> > 
>>> > A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries you 
>>> > selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
>>> > 
>>> > Best,
>>> > Anna
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> >> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> >> 
>>> >> Hi friends,
>>> >> 
>>> >> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
>>> >> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
>>> >> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
>>> >> present.  Please do let me know.
>>> >> 
>>> >> With best regards,
>>> >> 
>>> >> Ketan
>>> >> 
>>> >> -- 
>>> >> Ketan Kothari
>>> >> Phone: [r] 24223281,
>>> >> Cell: 9987550614
>>> >> MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
>>> >> Skype ID: Ketan
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I am no longer able to double tap on address field in mail app to see the address of the sender.

[Amy Ruell]

 used to do this on a regular basis to identify spam email. If I double tap on 
the senders address or double tap and hold, this information is no longer 
revealed. Can anyone else duplicate this? Thanks.
Amy


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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Michael Amaro]

amen I don't like it either.  Wish I could use the home button

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Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

It's worked for me a few times but I think the power button will have to 
become my new talking clock button, not quite as convenient to reach if 
I'm laying in bed or something, but it is what it is.

Original message:

Hi Mike,


Well, I have the iPhone 8 Plus. On occasion, I can get the time announced 
but I have to use a really light touch on the home button for it to work. 
It’s certainly not consistent and certainly no longer reliable.



Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not 
being announced when waking the phone with the home button.

Original message:
that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 
though.

Original message:

I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, 
sometimes

does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.



So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.



As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
with announcing the time.



Pam




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
Mike Arrigo [n0...@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it 
sounds

like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the 
screen

which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
Original message:
aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one 
having this

problemHonestly



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To: 
Subject: IOS 12 observations


So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed 
one
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is 
no
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is 
spoken
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will 
just

use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.



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amazon app broken"

[regina alvarado]

Warning: Do not upgrade the amazon app. They have broken it. Does anyone know 
where to send complaints?


Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
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Re: I am no longer able to double tap on address field in mail app to see the address of the sender.

[Ryan Mann]

I just tried this on your address.  It worked with no problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> used to do this on a regular basis to identify spam email. If I double tap on 
> the senders address or double tap and hold, this information is no longer 
> revealed. Can anyone else duplicate this? Thanks.
> Amy
> 
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Getting rid of the confirmation message when deleting a conversation in the messages app

[Mary Otten]

It seems to me that are used to have my Messages app set such that if I hit 
delete on a message or a message conversation, it would go away without asking 
me if I wanted to delete it. Maybe I’m just miss remembering. That changed at 
some point, not with iOS 12 however. I would like to stop this behavior. I want 
to have the conversation go away without the confirmation being necessary. I 
looked in settings for Messages, and I don’t see that choice in there. Is it 
somewhere else? Or is it just not possible?
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Re: amazon app broken"

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
What seems to be the issue? I downloaded the update this morning but hadn’t 
checked it out yet.
Tom


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> Warning: Do not upgrade the amazon app. They have broken it. Does anyone know 
> where to send complaints?
> 
> 
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Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Michael Feir]

The right place is in setttings, general, dictionary. It is right near the
language and region button. Double-tap on dictionary and select the
ictionary and thesaurus you want to use from the options. Once that's done,
they should download and be ready for use.

While you're writing something, you can type the word, turn the rotor to
"edit", swipe down until you get to "select" and double-tap that. Swipe
down again until you reach the "look up" option in the edit menu.
Double-tap that and you'll be presended with a screen containing any
information about the word from various available sources including the
dictionary and thesaurus. Personally, I don't find anything from the
thesaurus but the dictionary works great.

For me, third party apps have proven far more useful. A good starting one
is Wordweb. It can work along with the Chambers dictionary and thesaurus
apps if you need heavier artillary. Hope that helps.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:25 PM Maria Reyes  wrote:

> Hi, go to settings > general and keep flicking until you hear dictionary.
> double tap on that and you will see a whole bunch of dictionaries you can
> add.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
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> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: How to use onboard dictionaries
>
> OK. I went into settings, general, keyboard, and the only thing I found
> was dictation languages. Is that what it is? I thought it was something
> where you could look stuff up. I already have two of them. And it didn’t
> show me a listing for anymore. So if I know something in English and want
> to know how to say it say in Arabic, I can type English. I cannot type
> Arabic, and I don’t want an Arabic keyboard, even if there is one. I guess
> that means I can’t do that kind of look up. I thought I remembered hearing
> that there was an Arabic dictionary now available. But perhaps I just
> totally missed the boat.
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>
> Hi, It's in keyboard settings.
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten  wrote:
> Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went in
> there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic
> settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and
> I didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which
> ones I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ketan,
> >
> > 1. Type the word you want to look up.
> >
> > 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
> >
> > 3. Choose Select.
> >
> > 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more items."
> >
> > 5. Choose "Look up."
> >
> > A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries
> you selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
> >
> > Best,
> > Anna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi friends,
> >>
> >> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
> >> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to translate
> >> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
> >> present.  Please do let me know.
> >>
> >> With best regards,
> >>
> >> Ketan
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Phone: [r] 24223281,
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RE: How to use onboard dictionaries

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, I just found it by going to

Settings
General, then way down toward the end in General.

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Re: How to use onboard dictionaries

Hi,

It's called Dictionary and is near the bottom of General Settings.

Best,
Anna




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Hi, It's in keyboard settings. 

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Somebody mentioned that you could find dictionary in settings. I went 
in there, and I didn’t see any. I looked in Siri, then I looked in the basic 
settings app down the list of all the apps that I have, a lot of them, and I 
didn’t see anything. Where can I find these dictionaries and decide which ones 
I want? It’s probably obvious, but I’m just not seeing it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Hi Ketan,
> 
> 1. Type the word you want to look up.
> 
> 2. Turn the rotor to Edit.
> 
> 3. Choose Select.
> 
> 4. If "Look up isn't in the menu that pops up, select "Show more 
items."
> 
> 5. Choose "Look up."
> 
> A screen will open with your word looked up in whichever dictionaries 
you selected, as well as any other relevant sources.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Ketan Kothari mailto:muktake...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I see that in the settings app there are quite a few dictionaries but
>> how does one use them?  Siri is not using them as I tried to 
translate
>> from English to Hindi and Siri told me that it cannot do this at
>> present.  Please do let me know.
>> 
>> With best regards,
>> 
>> Ketan
>> 
>> -- 
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XS Very nice

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
just wanted to say the iPhoneXS is very nice to feel. I will write if I have 
any problems setting it up from my iPhone6.
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Re: amazon app broken"

[regina alvarado]

Ok, I will qualify my displeasure. I searched for apple watch, and there was a 
whole string of numbers and letters that stopped swiping through the list. 
However, when I looked for dish soap I could swipe through the options fine. 
Don't know why it didn't work on the apple device but on other things it does. 
Interestingly the website searching for Apple watch works perfectly. 

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

Hi,
What seems to be the issue? I downloaded the update this morning but hadn’t 
checked it out yet.
Tom


> On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Warning: Do not upgrade the amazon app. They have broken it. Does anyone know 
> where to send complaints?
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
> gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
> day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of 
> a broken heart." So God made a dog.
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Re: I am no longer able to double tap on address field in mail app to see the address of the sender.

[Maria Reyes]

Amy,

I'm wondering something. Was the email address sending you an email that 
is a thread?



On 9/20/2018 9:00 PM, Amy Ruell wrote:

If I Double tap on details and then the address field it works. I wonder if 
some setting has been changed I never used to use this additional stuff thanks

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:

I just tried this on your address.  It worked with no problem.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:

used to do this on a regular basis to identify spam email. If I double tap on 
the senders address or double tap and hold, this information is no longer 
revealed. Can anyone else duplicate this? Thanks.
Amy


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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Kenny]

Hmmm... I always have my iPhone 8 placed face down on the table. When I 
turn it face up, it automatically speaks the current time. Then I turn 
it facedown again. Might be something you would want to try?



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So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed 
one thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is 
no longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is 
spoken when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I 
will just use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.




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Re: What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For

[Kenny]

LOL! I wondered what this mysterious Measure app was that appeared on my 
phone after upgrading to v12. I moved it to the extras folder. guess I 
should play around with it a bit.



On 9/18/2018 2:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

What Is The Measure App On iOS 12? Here's What You Can Use It For
By Lucia Petersan.

With the release of iOS 12 on Monday, users of Apple mobile devices of all
kinds gained access to a ton of new apps and tools - including a surprise
hit: The "Measure" app. What is the iOS 12 Measure app, you ask? It's both
exactly what it sounds like, and a whole lot more. Through the magic of
ARKit 2 - the latest version of Apple's augmented reality development kit -
you can use your iPhone or iPad to take the measurements of just about
anything in your environment. Although the idea of an AR tape measurer isn't
nearly as exciting-sounding as, say, being able to catch a Pokemon in your
living room, it's one of the more practical applications of AR technology -
and as some folks have demonstrated on Twitter, you can still have some fun
with it, too.
Apple's own Measure app isn't the first of its kind; other developers have
previously harnessed the power of ARKit's earlier version, which was
released in 2017 alongside iOS 11, to create similar apps (with varying
degrees of success). The functionality of Measure isn't new, either -
although it works through different technology, the end result isn't
dramatically different from what you can achieve with a laser distance
measure.
  
What Measure does that these other options don't, however, is make this kind

of tool accessible to anyone with a compatible iOS device. Want to calculate
the length or area of something that's tough to get a tape measure against?
You don't have to buy a separate device to accomplish that calculation; you
don't even have to buy a separate app to do it. Everything you need is built
right into something you already own - your phone or tablet. All you have to
do to get access to it is update your device to iOS 12.
According to Mashable, the first time you boot up Measure, it will ask you
to "point your phone all around the environment you're in" for calibration
purposes. After you've completed that task, you'll be able to start
measuring items in your surroundings. To do so, you just point your phone at
whatever you want to measure so the camera can see it, then tap the points
you want the app to measure between on your device's screen. The app is also
capable of recognizing some things on its; per Mashable, you can measure
these objects "by holding your iPhone up to, say, a monitor, TV, or box,"
which will cause the app to "overlay the object in yellow and allow you to
lock that point in." Writes Jake Krol, "From there, you can get the
measurements of that recognized object without doing the manual work of
designating a boundary."
  
The app isn't without its flaws, of course; it's mostly accurate, but not

perfectly accurate. When Krol measured his MacBook Air, for example - a
laptop which measures at 13.3 inches diagonally - the app calculated it at
13 inches even, which is, as Krol put it, "not bad, though not quite dead
on." CNBC echoed this assessment, calling it "[not] a perfect replacement
for a regular measuring tape, but . good if you need a quick estimate when
you're in a bind and don't have a real tape measure."
Plenty of folks have found some, uh. creative uses for Measure, too, of
course. Take, for example, all the people who have discovered you can
measure your pets with it:
Well played, internet. Well played, indeed.
To get Measure, first make sure your device is compatible with iOS 12 by
checking here; if it is, go ahead and update to iOS 12 and you should be
good to go. Have fun, kids!

Original Article at:
https://www.bustle.com/p/what-is-the-measure-app-on-ios-12-heres-what-you-ca
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Re: Apple iOS 12 Has 25 Great Secret Features, Forbes

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Hahahahahahahaha,...   well, I wondered that, but didn't think to ask.

Cheers, R.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jewel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12 Has 25 Great Secret Features, Forbes


If these features are so great, why keep them secret?

   Jewel

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RE: Setting up the "say cheese" Siri shortcut

[Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop}]

What I don't like about the shortcuts, unless, I am doing something
incorrect, is that when the shortcut is complete it puts you in the shortcut
app. So, if I use the say cheese shortcut from the home screen, when the
pitcher is taken I am left in the shortcut app. 

Blind Treasures 
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Re: Gmail and push?

[Øyvind Lode]

Push does not work with gmail accounts when using the iOS stock mail client.
That was for sure the case on iOS 11.4.1 but I've not tried on iOS 12
since I prefer the gmail app over the stock iOS mail app anyway.
Push works as expected when using the gmail app.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 06:30, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I was under the impression that at this point and maybe at some point a year 
> or two ago push is now supported for gmail.
> I assume previously it had to do with the IMAP protocol which gmail uses, 
> Outlook uses Microsoft's Exchange Active Sync and as far as I know that is 
> also behind iCloud email.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
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> Subject: Gmail and push?
>
>  Hi all,
>
> I am wondering why Gmail doesn't support push on the iOS devices? I know
> iCloud and Outlook do but I've always wondered why Gmail doesn't.
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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mike,

Well, I have the iPhone 8 Plus. On occasion, I can get the time announced but I 
have to use a really light touch on the home button for it to work. It’s 
certainly not consistent and certainly no longer reliable.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not being 
> announced when waking the phone with the home button.
> Original message:
>> that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 
>> though.
>> Original message:
>>> I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
>>> button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, sometimes
>>> does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.
> 
>>> So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.
> 
>>> As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
>>> with announcing the time.
> 
>>> Pam
> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
>>> Mike Arrigo [n0...@charter.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations
> 
>>> This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
>>> if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
>>> like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
>>> when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
>>> which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
>>> power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
>>> Original message:
 aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having 
 this
 problemHonestly
> 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:22 AM
 To: 
 Subject: IOS 12 observations
> 
> So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
> thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
> longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
> when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just
> use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.
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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Rami Ahmad]

wake it with the power button instead.



> On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Well, I have the iPhone 8 Plus. On occasion, I can get the time announced but 
> I have to use a really light touch on the home button for it to work. It’s 
> certainly not consistent and certainly no longer reliable.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not being 
>> announced when waking the phone with the home button.
>> Original message:
>>> that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 
>>> though.
>>> Original message:
 I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
 button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, sometimes
 does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.
>> 
 So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.
>> 
 As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
 with announcing the time.
>> 
 Pam
>> 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
 Mike Arrigo [n0...@charter.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations
>> 
 This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
 if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
 like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
 when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
 which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
 power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
 Original message:
> aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having 
> this
> problemHonestly
>> 
> --
> From: "Mike Arrigo" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:22 AM
> To: 
> Subject: IOS 12 observations
>> 
>> So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
>> thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
>> longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
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RE: IOS 12 observations

[Les Kriegler]

Yes, that’s what I do and usually what I did before upgrading to IOS 12.

Les

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From: Rami Ahmad
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

wake it with the power button instead.



On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
Hi Mike,

Well, I have the iPhone 8 Plus. On occasion, I can get the time announced but I 
have to use a really light touch on the home button for it to work. It’s 
certainly not consistent and certainly no longer reliable.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not being 
announced when waking the phone with the home button.
Original message:
that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 though.
Original message:
I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, sometimes
does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.

So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.

As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
with announcing the time.

Pam


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
Mike Arrigo [n0...@charter.net]
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Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
Original message:
aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having this
problemHonestly

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Subject: IOS 12 observations

So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.

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RE: Setting up the "say cheese" Siri shortcut

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is true for me also and I agree that I would rather be where I started 
before running the shortcut.


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What I don't like about the shortcuts, unless, I am doing something incorrect, 
is that when the shortcut is complete it puts you in the shortcut app. So, if I 
use the say cheese shortcut from the home screen, when the pitcher is taken I 
am left in the shortcut app. 

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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

['Simon W' via VIPhone]

you have to turn it off manually that's what I did in mail.

-Original Message- 
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I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.

On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:

Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
time on my locked screen in IOS 12?

Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at 
a

time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.

They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
having to check there to see if I have missed something.

Thanks.

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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Kimber Gardner]

Thank you so much! I had no idea I could do that.

On 9/20/18, 'Simon W' via VIPhone  wrote:
> you have to turn it off manually that's what I did in mail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen
>
> I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
> feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.
>
> On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
>> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>>
>> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
>> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at
>>
>> a
>> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in
>> and
>> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>>
>> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
>> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki
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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Vicki W.]

I'm not sure either. I will say that I do not use a passcode or touch ID if 
that makes a difference. So, if it keeps this up, I want to turn off group 
messaging and I'm not finding out where or how to do this.

Would you recommend I try a passcode to see if that makes a difference or can 
you tell me how to turn off group messaging? I found nowhere in the messaging 
or notification setting to do it.

Thanks.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:11 AM
  Subject: RE: IOS12 & locked Screen


  Hi Vicky,

   

  Not sure why you experience this. If I have a number of messages say from my 
Ring video doorbell, a few more from my Schlage smart doorlock, a couple from 
the CBC News app and some more from Facebook I can swipe through all of these 
groups and double tap on any one to expand it and see all the notifications 
init.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:01 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

   

  I don't mind them being grouped, but when a grouped notification appears on 
my locked screen, the previous one disappears so I am only seeing one message 
at a time. This means if several grouped messages come in, all the previous one 
disappears and only the most recent ones go away and I am never sure if there 
are more without going into notifications and looking there.

   

  If I unlock my screen, even the last one disappears.

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 

To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:42 PM

Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

 

Hi Vicky. What's happening is that your notifications are being grouped. To 
see all notifications that are grouped, double tap on one and you'll see them 
all. HTH. 

 

Regards,

Shawn,

Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

 

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

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Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com





  On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

   

  Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a 
time on my locked screen in IOS 12?

   

  Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't 
disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a 
time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and 
another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.

   

  They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep 
having to check there to see if I have missed something.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

   

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RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Richard Turner]

I agree that everyone who is blind should have Seeing AI on their phone, but if 
you want a stand alone money identifier for US currency that will tell you 
whether it is the front or back of the bill, EyeNote works great and is the 
only one that does front/back.

I mention the front/back thing because I had a client who really, really wanted 
to keep his money all facing the same direction in his wallet.

If you need to identify money from something over  20 countries including the 
US, then Money Reader is the one you want.

But, Seeing AI is the most useful app for multiple functions in the app store, 
and its money identifier works as well as any other, you simply have to flick 
to that channel.  I personally tend to use one of the dedicated money 
identifiers when all I want to do is check my folding money, but if I already 
am using Seeing AI, I will simply use it rather than switching to another ap.

It is great to have choices.

Richard





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

Or use the Seeing AI app, every blind person should have it on their phone 
anyways and it’s currency identification is every bit as good as Nand Money 
Reader.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed


EyeNote was updated to 64 bit in January. Delete the one you have and download 
it again and it works great.
Richard


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On Sep 19, 2018, at 7:21 PM, lenron brown 
mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sixth sense and a couple other games or the only things I miss. Other
than that it's great using IOS 12

On 9/19/18, Lisa Belville 
mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>> wrote:
Robin, most of the apps I had that weren't compatible with iOS 11 would
pop up a message saying the developer needed to update the app before it
would work with iOS 11.  This was a pop up dialog that appeared when the
app was opened and could be gotten rid of with a double tap of the Okay
button.  Once that dialog was gone, the app functioned normally.


Just off the top of my head, the apps I no longer have access to are
Eyenote, Color ID, Agogo, Sixth Sense and Where's ducky.  When I tried
opening these apps after the update I got the same message I'd get
before the update, only now the app doesn't open when the message
disappears, I just land back on the home screen.


I will miss Sixth Sense, but I've found better if not superior
replacements for the other apps.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/19/2018 8:11 PM, Robin wrote:
ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard &
I don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure
if any of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or
64Bit & I recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share
YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing
List as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be
interested in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the
Transition from iOS10.3.3
At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
Hi, all.


Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.


Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air
updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least
some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I
started using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages
every few minutes.  It still took forever.


But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight
minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26
which was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting
here next to me while I did Emails on the PC. Every couple of
minutes I'd use a light probe to see if the screen was still lit,
which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that
indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC
clock said 2:34 and so did the phone.


I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I
haven't played around with some of the new changes, but so far I
really like the female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.


So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions 

Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Kimber Gardner]

You have to turn it off individually for each notification. It is
under the heading of options. It's called grouping or something like
that and is set to default to automatic. It's a bit of a pain to have
to turn each one off individually but it's better than nothing.

On 9/20/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
> I'm not sure either. I will say that I do not use a passcode or touch ID if
> that makes a difference. So, if it keeps this up, I want to turn off group
> messaging and I'm not finding out where or how to do this.
>
> Would you recommend I try a passcode to see if that makes a difference or
> can you tell me how to turn off group messaging? I found nowhere in the
> messaging or notification setting to do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:11 AM
>   Subject: RE: IOS12 & locked Screen
>
>
>   Hi Vicky,
>
>
>
>   Not sure why you experience this. If I have a number of messages say from
> my Ring video doorbell, a few more from my Schlage smart doorlock, a couple
> from the CBC News app and some more from Facebook I can swipe through all of
> these groups and double tap on any one to expand it and see all the
> notifications init.
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Vicki W.
>   Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:01 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen
>
>
>
>   I don't mind them being grouped, but when a grouped notification appears
> on my locked screen, the previous one disappears so I am only seeing one
> message at a time. This means if several grouped messages come in, all the
> previous one disappears and only the most recent ones go away and I am never
> sure if there are more without going into notifications and looking there.
>
>
>
>   If I unlock my screen, even the last one disappears.
>
>
>
>   Vicki
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone
>
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:42 PM
>
> Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen
>
>
>
> Hi Vicky. What's happening is that your notifications are being grouped.
> To see all notifications that are grouped, double tap on one and you'll see
> them all. HTH.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Shawn,
>
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>
>
>
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up
> at a time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>
>
>
>   Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a
> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>
>
>
>   They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>
>
>
>   Thanks.
>
>
>
>   Vicki
>
>
>
>
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is there a way of getting rid of vo saying groups when it comes to notifications?

[mich verrier]

Hi all. I have found that since upgrading to ios 12 when ever I get
notifications that vo says group. Is there a way to stop vo from saying
group? Or is this just now how the notifications are in ios 12? From Mich.

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Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[karuna Chopra]

Awesome! But it does take a couple of seconds before it takes the picture. 
Remind me of an app I had earlier called 1Camera. Asking Siri to launch 1Camera 
would take a picture! It was much faster.
Thank you very much for your detailed instructions. really appreciate it.
I tried to initiate this action by speaking “Say cheese” into my Apple Watch. 
But Siri on the Apple Watch said cannot recognize this command! Is there anyway 
I can do it?
Thank you very much!
KarunA




 20-Sep-2018, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:

1. Open the Shortcuts app
2. Tap on Gallery
3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
Cheese shortcut listed.
6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your camera 
and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a picture is 
taken.
7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
Selfi".
9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
at the top right of that screen.
10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
"Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold the 
phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 2 
seconds or so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
confusing.
Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking a 
photo automatically.
It seems impossible to set up!
Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an activate 
this shortcut? 
Thank you very much!

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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Kimber Gardner]

I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.

On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>
> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a
> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>
> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

['Simon W' via VIPhone]

It’s in notifications and go in Messages. It’s the last option as you swipe 
through.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure either. I will say that I do not use a passcode or touch ID if 
> that makes a difference. So, if it keeps this up, I want to turn off group 
> messaging and I'm not finding out where or how to do this.
>  
> Would you recommend I try a passcode to see if that makes a difference or can 
> you tell me how to turn off group messaging? I found nowhere in the messaging 
> or notification setting to do it.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:11 AM
> Subject: RE: IOS12 & locked Screen
> 
> Hi Vicky,
>  
> Not sure why you experience this. If I have a number of messages say from my 
> Ring video doorbell, a few more from my Schlage smart doorlock, a couple from 
> the CBC News app and some more from Facebook I can swipe through all of these 
> groups and double tap on any one to expand it and see all the notifications 
> init.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen
>  
> I don't mind them being grouped, but when a grouped notification appears on 
> my locked screen, the previous one disappears so I am only seeing one message 
> at a time. This means if several grouped messages come in, all the previous 
> one disappears and only the most recent ones go away and I am never sure if 
> there are more without going into notifications and looking there.
>  
> If I unlock my screen, even the last one disappears.
>  
> Vicki
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen
>  
> Hi Vicky. What's happening is that your notifications are being grouped. To 
> see all notifications that are grouped, double tap on one and you'll see them 
> all. HTH. 
>  
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>  
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>  
> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a 
> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>  
> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't 
> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a 
> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and 
> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>  
> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep having 
> to check there to see if I have missed something.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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RE: is there a way of getting rid of vo saying groups when it comes to notifications?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It says group if there is more than 1 notification and that is how 
notifications are now done in iOS 12. Many of us have been waiting for iOS to 
finally group notifications from the same app/source on the lockscreen and in 
notification centre instead of showing them all individually. When they 
mentioned this feature during the June keynote there was big applause from all 
the developers.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is there a way of getting rid of vo saying groups when it comes to 
notifications?

Hi all. I have found that since upgrading to ios 12 when ever I get 
notifications that vo says group. Is there a way to stop vo from saying group? 
Or is this just now how the notifications are in ios 12? From Mich.
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RE: Carrier Settings Update message

['Donald Moore' via VIPhone]

As did I.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Carrier Settings Update message
 
They are legitimate. I got one yesterday, immediately after upgrading to iOS 12.
 
On 9/18/2018 2:53 PM, Yates, Danney wrote:
I use Verizon and I’m seeing a  message on I Phone 5-SE entitled- Carrier 
Settings Update followed by the message telling me 
New settings are available, would you like to  update them  now?  The two 
choices for response are “not  now” or “update”
Anyone else get these?  Wondering if they are legit.
Danney
 
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RE: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not sure what the purpose is why you would speak Say Cheese into the Apple 
Watch, it does not have a camera and if you want to use it as a remote control 
for the iPhone camera then you can do this already manually.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Awesome! But it does take a couple of seconds before it takes the picture. 
Remind me of an app I had earlier called 1Camera. Asking Siri to launch 1Camera 
would take a picture! It was much faster.
Thank you very much for your detailed instructions. really appreciate it.
I tried to initiate this action by speaking “Say cheese” into my Apple Watch. 
But Siri on the Apple Watch said cannot recognize this command! Is there anyway 
I can do it?
Thank you very much!
KarunA




 20-Sep-2018, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:

1. Open the Shortcuts app
2. Tap on Gallery
3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
Cheese shortcut listed.
6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your camera 
and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a picture is 
taken.
7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
Selfi".
9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
at the top right of that screen.
10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
"Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold the 
phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 2 
seconds or so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
confusing.
Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking a 
photo automatically.
It seems impossible to set up!
Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an activate 
this shortcut? 
Thank you very much!

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RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Carolyn Arnold]

My 
SE 32 has 11.4.1. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from iOS10.3.3 
to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I don't See myself 
updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any of the usual or most 
often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I recall iOS11 & Above don't 
support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa 
B could share  YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this 
Mailing List as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be 
interested in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition 
from iOS10.3.3 At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
>Hi, all.
>
>
>Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.
>
>
>Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air 
>updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least 
>some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I 
>started using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages every 
>few minutes.  It still took forever.
>
>
>But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight 
>minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 
>which was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting 
>here next to me while I did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of minutes 
>I'd use a light probe to see if the screen was still lit, which it 
>was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that indicates VO has 
>done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC clock said 2:34 and 
>so did the phone.
>
>
>I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't 
>played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like 
>the female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.
>
>
>So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS 
>versions behind, you should probably be Okay.
>
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>Lisa Belville
>
>missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
>On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:
>>Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining 
>>to Updating your iPhoneSE with iOS10.3.3 to 
>>iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My MobileCarrier is VZW
>>
>> From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable 
>> & Snappy, which hasn't been the case  with 
>> the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up
>>
>>GoodLuck
>>At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:
>>>Hi, all.
>>>
>>>
>>>I am using windows 10 with the latest version 
>>>of NVDA.  I currently have an iPhone SE 
>>>that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't 
>>>updated it because in the past year I've had 
>>>to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and I 
>>>used my phone as my primary technology for 
>>>several months before that, so was afraid to 
>>>do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, 
>>>though, I want to move up to iOS 12 if possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>My concern has to do with whether or not to 
>>>use iTunes or over the air to do the update 
>>>from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all 
>>>should go well, but I don't want to wind up 
>>>with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  .
>>>
>>>
>>>I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my 
>>>iPhone 5, and when they updated to a new 
>>>machine, they copied everything over to the 
>>>new hard drive.  I have the old iTunes 
>>>library, but not the iTunes program itself, at 
>>>least I don't find it doing a search.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have been following the discussion about 
>>>iTunes accessibility, so I downloaded iTunes 
>>>for Business in the hope it would be easier 
>>>than previous versions of iTunes I've tried.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now I'm unsure if I should just install the 
>>>business version or if I need to do something 
>>>with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to 
>>>the new PC and the newly installed iTunes will 
>>>take it from there.  I don't remember how I 
>>>dealt with this when I first got the iPhone 
>>>and installed iTunes several years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>Generally I put up with the inaccessable 
>>>aspects of using iTunes because I could get a 
>>>running progress bar regarding update status, 
>>>but now I'm thinking I might deal with an hour 
>>>or so of uncertainty and do the over air 
>>>update.  We don't have an Apple store here, 
>>>just a Verizon store where I had the phone set 
>>>up originally, and I don't have a pair of 
>>>working eyeballs around to handle reading a phone screen..
>>>
>>>
>>>Any advice or ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lisa
>>>
>>>
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RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Carolyn Arnold]

So should I just not update to 12? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed


32 bit apps will never be supported again. So, either the developer needs to 
update their apps, or you have to find a replacement or stay on 10.3.3. 
Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill







[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Robin mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:



ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I don't 
See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any of the 
usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I recall iOS11 & 
Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share  
YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List as I 
beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested in your 
Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from iOS10.3.3
At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.








Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over 
the air updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least 
some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I started 
using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages every few minutes.  
It still took forever.








But today's update went off without a hitch and took about 
eight minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 which 
was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting here next to me 
while I did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of minutes I'd use a light probe 
to see if the screen was still lit, which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little 
chirpy noise that indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a menu. 
The PC clock said 2:34 and so did the phone.








I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I 
haven't played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like 
the female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.








So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you 
should probably be Okay.








Lisa











Lisa Belville





missktlab1...@frontier.com  





On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:


Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to 
Updating your iPhoneSE with iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on 
iOS10.3.3Â  &Â  My MobileCarrier is VZW





From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, 
which hasn't been the case  with the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up





GoodLuck


At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








I am using windows 10 with the latest version 
of NVDA.  I currently have an iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  
I haven't updated it because in the past year I've had to update to a new PC 
with Windows 10, and I used my phone as my primary technology for several 
months before that, so was afraid to do an over the air update to iOS 11.  
Now, though, I want to move up to iOS 12 

Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[karuna Chopra]

Yes! I know it was redundant! I just figured out the Camera app and Apple Watch 
and I could use it easily for taking photos from my iPhone and even get a 
viewfinder in my Apple Watch!
It’s funny, this technology, sometimes it makes you go around in circles!
Have a great day!


On 20-Sep-2018, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I am not sure what the purpose is why you would speak Say Cheese into the Apple 
Watch, it does not have a camera and if you want to use it as a remote control 
for the iPhone camera then you can do this already manually.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Awesome! But it does take a couple of seconds before it takes the picture. 
Remind me of an app I had earlier called 1Camera. Asking Siri to launch 1Camera 
would take a picture! It was much faster.
Thank you very much for your detailed instructions. really appreciate it.
I tried to initiate this action by speaking “Say cheese” into my Apple Watch. 
But Siri on the Apple Watch said cannot recognize this command! Is there anyway 
I can do it?
Thank you very much!
KarunA




20-Sep-2018, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:

1. Open the Shortcuts app
2. Tap on Gallery
3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
Cheese shortcut listed.
6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your camera 
and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a picture is 
taken.
7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
Selfi".
9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
at the top right of that screen.
10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
"Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold the 
phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 2 
seconds or so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
confusing.
Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking a 
photo automatically.
It seems impossible to set up!
Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an activate 
this shortcut? 
Thank you very much!

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Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[karuna Chopra]

If you are using an iPhone SE, I highly recommend that you upgrade to iOS 12.0.
I did that on my iPhone SE and have had no regrets!
Cheers! 

On 20-Sep-2018, at 8:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

My 
SE 32 has 11.4.1. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from iOS10.3.3 
to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I don't See myself 
updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any of the usual or most 
often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I recall iOS11 & Above don't 
support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa 
B could share  YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this 
Mailing List as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be 
interested in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition 
from iOS10.3.3 At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> 
> Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.
> 
> 
> Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air 
> updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least 
> some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I 
> started using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages every 
> few minutes.  It still took forever.
> 
> 
> But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight 
> minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 
> which was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting 
> here next to me while I did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of minutes 
> I'd use a light probe to see if the screen was still lit, which it 
> was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that indicates VO has 
> done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC clock said 2:34 and 
> so did the phone.
> 
> 
> I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't 
> played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like 
> the female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.
> 
> 
> So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS 
> versions behind, you should probably be Okay.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> 
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:
>> Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining 
>> to Updating your iPhoneSE with iOS10.3.3 to 
>> iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My MobileCarrier is 
>> VZW
>> 
>> From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable 
>> & Snappy, which hasn't been the case  with 
>> the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up
>> 
>> GoodLuck
>> At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am using windows 10 with the latest version 
>>> of NVDA.  I currently have an iPhone SE 
>>> that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't 
>>> updated it because in the past year I've had 
>>> to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and I 
>>> used my phone as my primary technology for 
>>> several months before that, so was afraid to 
>>> do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, 
>>> though, I want to move up to iOS 12 if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My concern has to do with whether or not to 
>>> use iTunes or over the air to do the update 
>>> from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all 
>>> should go well, but I don't want to wind up 
>>> with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my 
>>> iPhone 5, and when they updated to a new 
>>> machine, they copied everything over to the 
>>> new hard drive.  I have the old iTunes 
>>> library, but not the iTunes program itself, at 
>>> least I don't find it doing a search.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been following the discussion about 
>>> iTunes accessibility, so I downloaded iTunes 
>>> for Business in the hope it would be easier 
>>> than previous versions of iTunes I've tried.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I'm unsure if I should just install the 
>>> business version or if I need to do something 
>>> with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to 
>>> the new PC and the newly installed iTunes will 
>>> take it from there.  I don't remember how I 
>>> dealt with this when I first got the iPhone 
>>> and installed iTunes several years ago.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Generally I put up with the inaccessable 
>>> aspects of using iTunes because I could get a 
>>> running progress bar regarding update status, 
>>> but now I'm thinking I might deal with an hour 
>>> or so of uncertainty and do the over air 
>>> update.  We don't have an Apple store here, 
>>> just a Verizon store where I had the phone set 
>>> up originally, and I don't have a 

iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

 I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this app 
in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming apps) 
user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so streams 
in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the initial 
one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver goes silent, 
ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable conditions appear.

This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave 
ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other 
streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate 
either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.

I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
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passcode

[Janet Bell]

Hi to all please can someone tell me how, since I have upgraded by iPhone 7 to 
the latest ios12 I am unable to put my passcode in using double tapping each 
number on my phone, I have to use an external keyboard to do it and I would 
like to be able to do it as I did before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[kitty hevener]

okay, I am not familiar with that one.  I use the hims product line.  I did 
read where there apparently is a ap that is free designed for the 
brailliant.  Maybe someone else has more info.


-Original Message- 
From: Shameless FanGirl

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:

what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
displays work differently.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to 
whether or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've 
stopped typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages 
to be as annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display 
less...verbose? How do the rest of you who are display users find the 
state of braille on iOS generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so 
am perfectly willing to admit the issue is something I'm not doing 
correctly, so I'm reaching out in hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: passcode

[Rob Armstrong]

You probably need to change the setting for your preferred typing style.  Go to:

Settings

General

Accessibility

VoiceOver

Typing Style

I think the choice called “Standard typing” will work the way you want.  You 
move your finger around the screen until you find the digit or letter you want. 
 Then double-tap to enter it.

 

Rob

 

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Janet Bell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode

 

Hi to all please can someone tell me how, since I have upgraded by iPhone 7 to 
the latest ios12 I am unable to put my passcode in using double tapping each 
number on my phone, I have to use an external keyboard to do it and I would 
like to be able to do it as I did before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Vicki W.]

I don't mind them being grouped, but when a grouped notification appears on my 
locked screen, the previous one disappears so I am only seeing one message at a 
time. This means if several grouped messages come in, all the previous one 
disappears and only the most recent ones go away and I am never sure if there 
are more without going into notifications and looking there.

If I unlock my screen, even the last one disappears.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
  To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:42 PM
  Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen


  Hi Vicky. What's happening is that your notifications are being grouped. To 
see all notifications that are grouped, double tap on one and you'll see them 
all. HTH.


  Regards,
  Shawn,
  Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air


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On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a 
time on my locked screen in IOS 12?

Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't 
disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a 
time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and 
another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.

They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep 
having to check there to see if I have missed something.

Thanks.

Vicki



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RE: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:

1. Open the Shortcuts app
2. Tap on Gallery
3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
Cheese shortcut listed.
6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your camera 
and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a picture is 
taken.
7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
Selfi".
9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
at the top right of that screen.
10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
"Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold the 
phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 2 
seconds or so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
confusing.
Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking a 
photo automatically.
It seems impossible to set up!
Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an activate 
this shortcut? 
Thank you very much!

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RE: Gmail and push?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Push is supported as of iOS 11, here are instructions from a Lifewire.com 
article, note the last line of comment after point 10:

Set Up Free Gmail Push in iPhone Mail App

1. Tap Settings on your iPhone Home screen.
2. Select Accounts & Passwords
3. Tap Add Account on the Accounts & Passwords screen.
4. Select  Google from the options presented to you.
5. Enter your Gmail address (or phone number) in the field provided. Tap Next.
6. Enter your Gmail password in the field provided. Tap Next.
7. Indicate which Gmail folders you want to have pushed to iPhone Mail.
8. Return to the Accounts & Passwords screen and tap Push next to Fetch New 
Data.
9. Confirm that the Exchange account says Push or Fetch next to it.
10. At the bottom of the same screen, click Automatically in the Fetch section 
to receive the email sent to your email account as quickly as possible.
Note: iOS versions earlier than iOS 11 did not have the Automatically option. 
You had to select from the other options, the shortest of which was Every 15 
Minutes.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
Lode
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail and push?

Push does not work with gmail accounts when using the iOS stock mail client.
That was for sure the case on iOS 11.4.1 but I've not tried on iOS 12
since I prefer the gmail app over the stock iOS mail app anyway.
Push works as expected when using the gmail app.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 06:30, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I was under the impression that at this point and maybe at some point a year 
> or two ago push is now supported for gmail.
> I assume previously it had to do with the IMAP protocol which gmail uses, 
> Outlook uses Microsoft's Exchange Active Sync and as far as I know that is 
> also behind iCloud email.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Gmail and push?
>
>  Hi all,
>
> I am wondering why Gmail doesn't support push on the iOS devices? I know
> iCloud and Outlook do but I've always wondered why Gmail doesn't.
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RE: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Vicky,

Not sure why you experience this. If I have a number of messages say from my 
Ring video doorbell, a few more from my Schlage smart doorlock, a couple from 
the CBC News app and some more from Facebook I can swipe through all of these 
groups and double tap on any one to expand it and see all the notifications 
init.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

I don't mind them being grouped, but when a grouped notification appears on my 
locked screen, the previous one disappears so I am only seeing one message at a 
time. This means if several grouped messages come in, all the previous one 
disappears and only the most recent ones go away and I am never sure if there 
are more without going into notifications and looking there.

If I unlock my screen, even the last one disappears.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

Hi Vicky. What's happening is that your notifications are being grouped. To see 
all notifications that are grouped, double tap on one and you'll see them all. 
HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a time 
on my locked screen in IOS 12?

Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't disappear 
off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a time shows 
up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and another comes 
in after it, as well as any alerts.

They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep having 
to check there to see if I have missed something.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Marie N.]

Carolyn the SE is a 64 bit system. The 32 you are referring to is the amount 
of storage which is 32 GB. And yes, you should upgrade to IOS 12.


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

So should I just not update to 12?

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed


32 bit apps will never be supported again. So, either the developer needs to 
update their apps, or you have to find a replacement or stay on 10.3.3.

Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the 
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - 
Dorothy Nevill








[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Robin  > wrote:




ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I 
don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any 
of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I 
recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share 
YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List as 
I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested in 
your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from 
iOS10.3.3

At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.








Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air updates 
for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least some times. 
Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I started using iTunes 
because it gave me a progress in percentages every few minutes.  It still 
took forever.









But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight minutes. 
The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 which was the same 
thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting here next to me while I 
did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of minutes I'd use a light probe to see 
if the screen was still lit, which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little 
chirpy noise that indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a 
menu. The PC clock said 2:34 and so did the phone.









I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't 
played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like the 
female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.









So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you should 
probably be Okay.









Lisa











Lisa Belville





missktlab1...@frontier.com 





On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:


Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to Updating your iPhoneSE 
with iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My 
MobileCarrier is VZW






From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, which hasn't been 

the case  with the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up





GoodLuck


At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.  I currently have 
an iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't updated it 
because in the past year I've had to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and 
I used my phone as my primary technology for several months before that, so 
was afraid to do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, though, I want 
to move up to iOS 12 if possible.









My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the air to do 
the update from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all should go well, but I 
don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  .









I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my iPhone 5, and when they 
updated to a new machine, they copied everything over to the new hard 
drive.  I have the old iTunes library, but not the iTunes program itself, 
at least I don't find it doing a search.









I have been following the discussion about iTunes accessibility, so I 
downloaded iTunes for Business in the hope it would be easier than previous 
versions of iTunes I've tried.









Now I'm unsure if I should just install the business version or if I need to 
do something with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.









I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to the new PC and the newly 
installed iTunes will take it from there.  I don't remember how I dealt 
with this when I first got the iPhone and installed 

Re: passcode

[Janet Bell]

Hi Rob, thanks very much for this it did the trick.  Janet

From: Rob Armstrong 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: passcode

You probably need to change the setting for your preferred typing style.  Go to:

Settings

General

Accessibility

VoiceOver

Typing Style

I think the choice called “Standard typing” will work the way you want.  You 
move your finger around the screen until you find the digit or letter you want. 
 Then double-tap to enter it.

 

Rob

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode

 

Hi to all please can someone tell me how, since I have upgraded by iPhone 7 to 
the latest ios12 I am unable to put my passcode in using double tapping each 
number on my phone, I have to use an external keyboard to do it and I would 
like to be able to do it as I did before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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Re: A sound when I am at the top of my iPad Mini screen

[Russ Kiehne]

When I start sliding, it starts reading what on the screen?

-Original Message- 
From: 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A sound when I am at the top of my iPad Mini screen

Then it should work. You have to start sliding from the very top or very 
bottom edge of the screen. You should then hear a sound to let you know you 
are in the right area to slide up or down.



On 19 Sep 2018, at 14:06, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

  Yes, I updated to ios 12 the day it came out.

-Original Message- From: 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A sound when I am at the top of my iPad Mini screen

Are you on iOS 12 yet? If not, that is the answer.


On 18 Sep 2018, at 15:25, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

I tried that with my ipad mini 4 and I can't get it to work?

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First, you slide, not swipe. Now that is out the way, if you slide up 
from the bottom edge of the screen until you hear the second sound, 
slightly higher in pitch than the first one, this should bring up your 
home screen. Slide up further, again from the bottom of the screen, until 
you hear an even higher pitched sound, this should activate your app 
switcher. Let me know how you get on then I will post the other gestures 
if necessary.



On 18 Sep 2018, at 06:24, Jen .  wrote:

hi I just downloaded iOS 12 to my iPad mini and I saw something about 
swipe up or down when you hear a sound but missed what it will do so can 
anyone clarify this for me since swiping up and down when I hear this 
sound does nothing

Jen
also how do you send stickers in iMessages and are they accessible now

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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Russ Kiehne]

When I press the home key on my ipad mini 4, it does announce the time.  I 
tried it a few times.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
Original message:
aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having 
this

problemHonestly



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So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.



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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Shameless FanGirl]

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
> displays work differently.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
> or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped 
> typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
> annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
> How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on iOS 
> generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to 
> admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
> hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...
> 
> thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: IOS 12 observations

[Mike Arrigo]

I did upgrade my iphone 8 to IOS 12, same thing regarding the time not 
being announced when waking the phone with the home button.

Original message:

that's exactly what I am seeing with IOS 12, never happened with IOS 11 though.
Original message:

I have not yet upgraded to IOS 12, and sometimes when I hit the home
button, it starts to announce the time and then gets cut off, sometimes
does not announce it at all, and sometimes does announce the time.



So, this is not exclusive to IOS 12, at least not on my iPhone 8.



As Mike indicates, pressing the power button seems to be consistent
with announcing the time.



Pam




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
Mike Arrigo [n0...@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:03 PM
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This happens with my iphone SE, I need to upgrade my iphone 8 and see
if it happens with that phone as well. If you listen closely, it sounds
like the speech starts to say the time but then is cut off, usually
when the screen turns on, voiceover speaks the first item on the screen
which is the time, I just wonder what is different when pressing the
power button instead of the home button to wake the phone up.
Original message:

aw yes thought I was going crazy.   I thought I was the only one having this
problemHonestly



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To: 
Subject: IOS 12 observations



So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one
thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no
longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken
when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just
use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.



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iMessages while using a braille display.

[Shameless FanGirl]

Hi all, 


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether or 
not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped typing 
messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as annoying as 
I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? How do the rest 
of you who are display users find the state of braille on iOS generally? Like I 
said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to admit the issue is 
something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in hopes that isn't some 
half-baked bug... 

thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[kitty hevener]

what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
displays work differently.


-Original Message- 
From: Shameless FanGirl

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped 
typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on 
iOS generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing 
to admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out 
in hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Richard Turner]

That message is spoken, and for deaf/blind folks using a braille display they 
get what hearing/blind get.  Yes, it is annoying whether using a braille 
display or not, but I've not found a way to turn it off.
This might be a good thing to request from Apple, to make that an optional 
setting.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
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Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their latest model. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume different 
> displays work differently.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to whether 
> or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that they've stopped 
> typing messages which disrupt the entire writing process messages to be as 
> annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to make one's display less...verbose? 
> How do the rest of you who are display users find the state of braille on iOS 
> generally? Like I said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to 
> admit the issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
> hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...
> 
> thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Marie N.]

Lisa, I would say that the issue with Bard is definitely not standard 
behavior with an upgrade and I did not have this with either my ITouch or 
IPhone. I am constantly surprised when people have such diverse experiences 
when upgrading the same model of phones. But this might have been because 
you were skipping IOS 11 whereas I was not.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Lisa Belville

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:06 PM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

Well, I haven't had that much trouble, to be honest.  Most of my
settings were intact with one huge exception that I'll talk about below.


The only issue I had was with the BARD app.  I couldn't navigate from
tab to tab at all.  I closed the app, restarted the phone, and had the
same problem.  My next step would have been uninstalling and then
downloading it again.  But I checked the main settings screen and found
the BARD Mobile app and found an option to initialize settings within
that subsection.


This meant that when I reopened the app, I had to agree to the BARD
terms of service and reenter my user name and password.  Once this was
done, my bookshelf, wish list and previous downloads were restored,
though I did have to readjust settings for using cellular data from
within the BARD Mobile app.  Oh, and the option to hear progress beeps
was on when I had it set to off before the update.


For all I know this could be standard behavior, but I don't remember
having to do it when I was using BARD with my iPhone 5, but who knows. I
tend to block out stressful technical things to keep my sanity. 


The battery seems to be draining faster than usual.  I'm assuming this
is part of the update as indicated in the article someone mentioned on
this list the other day.


Also, I have downloaded the SIRI female voice to use with VO.  It works
great, but I can't adjust anything as far as volume, speaking rate or
pitch is concerned.  I've got speaking rate and volume on my rotor, and
they do absolutely nothing for the female SIRI voice.  I have UK and
Australian voices in my rotor, as well as the male SIRI U.S. voice and
they all can be adjusted.


None of these are showstoppers for me.  I'm sure I'll run across minor
things.  So far every app I've opened that is part of the native iOS
package gives me welcome screens and little summaries about new
features.  But all works as it should once I've gotten past those screens.


Lisa




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/19/2018 9:45 PM, Robin wrote:
ThankYou,Lisa B for sharing your Experience  with  your Findings about 
transitioning from iOS10.3.3  to iOS12 on  an iPhoneSE ... Have you 
noticed any HickUps or perceived flaws or perceived bugs? If so, have 
these Flaws or Bugs or HickUps impacted your performance using VoiceOver 
(I,Robin Presume) you,Lisa B use VoiceOver  ... on Apple's iOS12


What Replacement did you Locate   for the iOS MobileApp, EyeNote?
At 07:18 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
Robin, most of the apps I had that weren't compatible with iOS 11 would 
pop up a message saying the developer needed to update the app before it 
would work with iOS 11.  This was a pop up dialog that appeared when the 
app was opened and could be gotten rid of with a double tap of the Okay 
button.  Once that dialog was gone, the app functioned normally.



Just off the top of my head, the apps I no longer have access to are 
Eyenote, Color ID, Agogo, Sixth Sense and Where's ducky. When I tried 
opening these apps after the update I got the same message I'd get before 
the update, only now the app doesn't open when the message disappears, I 
just land back on the home screen.



I will miss Sixth Sense, but I've found better if not superior 
replacements for the other apps.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/19/2018 8:11 PM, Robin wrote:
ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & 
I don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if 
any of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit 
& I recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share 
YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List 
as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested 
in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from 
iOS10.3.3

At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:

Hi, all.


Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.


Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air 
updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least 
some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I 
started using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages every 
few minutes.  It still took forever.



But today's update went off without a hitch 

Re: iOS 12 & ooTunes Jousting

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi there, I have been using OOTunes for many years, it's my favorite radio app.
So, I went to my favorites list, started a station, and to pick
another one, I pressed the Back button, and chose another stream,
started it, and was again able to press the Back button to the list of
favorites.
I am not certain whether this is the exact scenario that you are
describing, but this is how I have always operated OOTunes, including
now in IOS 12.
Thanks.

On 9/20/18, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  wrote:
>  I am a faithful user of the ooTunes app and have noted an issue with this
> app in iOS 12.0.  I wonder if any other ooTunes (or other internet streaming
> apps) user is likewise experiencing this issue.  I have about a dozen or so
> streams in the “Favorites” for ooTunes and I have no problem selecting the
> initial one/.  But when I try to select another stream instead VoiceOver
> goes silent, ooTunes seems to be taken out of focus and other undesirable
> conditions appear.
>
> This doesn’t matter how I try to select an alternative stream.  If I leave
> ooTunes focussed on the “Favorites” tab and try to select one of the other
> streams occurs.  If I have “Now Playing” in focus and attempt to activate
> either the “Previous” or “Next” stream this occurs.
>
> I have an iPhone 6 with 128 Gb memory.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this situation?
>
>
> 
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> - "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>
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RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Carolyn Arnold]

I will do that then. First I had understood that with 12, response was a lot 
better. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
karuna Chopra
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

If you are using an iPhone SE, I highly recommend that you upgrade to iOS 12.0.
I did that on my iPhone SE and have had no regrets!
Cheers! 

On 20-Sep-2018, at 8:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

My
SE 32 has 11.4.1. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from iOS10.3.3 
to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I don't See myself 
updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any of the usual or most 
often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I recall iOS11 & Above don't 
support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa 
B could share  YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this 
Mailing List as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be 
interested in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition 
from iOS10.3.3 At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> 
> Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.
> 
> 
> Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air 
> updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least 
> some times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I 
> started using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages 
> every few minutes.  It still took forever.
> 
> 
> But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight 
> minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 
> which was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting 
> here next to me while I did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of 
> minutes I'd use a light probe to see if the screen was still lit, 
> which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that 
> indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC 
> clock said 2:34 and so did the phone.
> 
> 
> I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I 
> haven't played around with some of the new changes, but so far I 
> really like the female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.
> 
> 
> So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you should 
> probably be Okay.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> 
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:
>> Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to Updating your 
>> iPhoneSE with iOS10.3.3 to
>> iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My 
>> MobileCarrier is VZW
>> 
>> From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, which hasn't 
>> been the case  with the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up
>> 
>> GoodLuck
>> At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.  I 
>>> currently have an iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  I 
>>> haven't updated it because in the past year I've had to update to a 
>>> new PC with Windows 10, and I used my phone as my primary technology 
>>> for several months before that, so was afraid to do an over the air 
>>> update to iOS 11.  Now, though, I want to move up to iOS 12 if 
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the 
>>> air to do the update from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all 
>>> should go well, but I don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE 
>>> brick phone.  .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my 
>>> iPhone 5, and when they updated to a new 
>>> machine, they copied everything over to the 
>>> new hard drive.  I have the old iTunes 
>>> library, but not the iTunes program itself, at 
>>> least I don't find it doing a search.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been following the discussion about 
>>> iTunes accessibility, so I downloaded iTunes 
>>> for Business in the hope it would be easier 
>>> than previous versions of iTunes I've tried.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now I'm unsure if I should just install the 
>>> business version or if I need to do something 
>>> with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to 
>>> the new PC and the newly installed iTunes will 
>>> take it from there.  I don't remember how I 
>>> dealt with this when I first got the iPhone 
>>> and installed iTunes several years ago.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Generally I put up with the inaccessable 
>>> 

RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks for that information; I learned something new today. I was thinking 
about two friends who recently got sevens, both 32, and I thought, oh no, they 
won't benefit either. I see what you mean, kind of like my Victor Reader 
Stream, what it has itself and what is on the SD card. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

Carolyn the SE is a 64 bit system. The 32 you are referring to is the amount of 
storage which is 32 GB. And yes, you should upgrade to IOS 12.

-Original Message-
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

So should I just not update to 12?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed


32 bit apps will never be supported again. So, either the developer needs to 
update their apps, or you have to find a replacement or stay on 10.3.3.
Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the 
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - 
Dorothy Nevill







[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Robin mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:



ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I 
don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any 
of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I 
recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share 
YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List as 
I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested in 
your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from 
iOS10.3.3
At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.








Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air updates 
for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least some times. 
Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I started using iTunes 
because it gave me a progress in percentages every few minutes.  It still 
took forever.








But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight minutes. 
The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 which was the same 
thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting here next to me while I 
did Emails on the PC.  Every couple of minutes I'd use a light probe to see 
if the screen was still lit, which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little 
chirpy noise that indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a 
menu. The PC clock said 2:34 and so did the phone.








I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't 
played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like the 
female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.








So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you should 
probably be Okay.








Lisa











Lisa Belville





missktlab1...@frontier.com 





On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:


Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to Updating your iPhoneSE 
with iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My 
MobileCarrier is VZW





>From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, which hasn't been 
the case  with the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up





GoodLuck


At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:


Hi, all.








I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.  I currently have 
an iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't updated it 
because in the past year I've had to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and 
I used my phone as my primary technology for several months before that, so 
was afraid to do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, though, I want 
to move up to iOS 12 if possible.








My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the air to do 
the update from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all should go well, but I 
don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  .








I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my iPhone 5, and when they 
updated to a new machine, they copied everything over to the new hard 
drive.  I have the old iTunes library, but not the iTunes program itself, 
at least I don't find it doing a search.








I have been 

Re: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut

[Gerardo Corripio]

I can’t seem to find it: I type Cheese and tried typing Picture into the 
Galaries Galary’s Search but it insists no results. Might you have the link for 
this one? maybe in Spanish it’s a different name?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 5:08 a. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
escribió:

> It seems to work and do what it says it is supposed to do, here is what I did:
> 
> 1. Open the Shortcuts app
> 2. Tap on Gallery
> 3. Tap on Say Cheese, take a photo by asking SIRI
> 4. Now tap on "Get Shortcut"
> 5. Tap on the "Library" tab at the bottom left and you will now find the Say 
> Cheese shortcut listed.
> 6. Double tap on it, you will propted to allow Shortcuts to access your 
> camera and photos, make sure you allow it, the shortcut will run and a 
> picture is taken.
> 7. In order to add the SIRI integration, go to Settings > SIRI and Search and 
> look for the "Run Say Cheese" shortcut which should now show up under the 
> heading "Suggested Shortcuts", double tap on it.
> 8. Record whichever phrase you want to use, it could be "Say Cheese" or "Take 
> Picture" or, if in the shortcuts menu you change the actions to use the front 
> camera instead of the back camera you could make a shortcut and call it "Take 
> Selfi".
> 9. After you finish recording your phrase make sure you tap the "Done" button 
> at the top right of that screen.
> 10. Try out your shortcut by bringing  up SIRI and speak your phrase, e.g. 
> "Take Picture", SIRI should say "running your shortcut", make sure you hold 
> the phone still until you hear the sound of the camera. It will probably take 
> 2 seconds or so.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
> Chopra
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:10 PM
> To: ViPhone 
> Subject: Setting up the “say cheese” Siri shortcut
> 
> Siri shortcuts seem awesome! But setting up Siri shortcut seems awfully 
> confusing.
> Mr. Richard Turner did  mention say cheese shortcut for the camera app taking 
> a photo automatically.
> It seems impossible to set up!
> Can someone please give step-by-step instructions on how to set up an 
> activate this shortcut? 
> Thank you very much!
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Re: IOS12 & locked Screen

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes you can: go into Settings/Notificacions, and go into the app in which you’d 
like to turn Grouping off; at the very bottom you’ll see an option for this. 
Good luck!

Gera
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El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 7:12 a. m., Kimber Gardner  
escribió:

> I really wish there was a way to turn off the grouping. I dislike that
> feature and prefer to see all of my notifications at once.
> 
>> On 9/19/18, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> Is there a way to get more than one notification or alert to show up at a
>> time on my locked screen in IOS 12?
>> 
>> Before, if I received an alert or more than one message, they didn't
>> disappear off the locked screen until I made them go away. Now only one at a
>> time shows up and I am missing messages when I don't hear them come in and
>> another comes in after it, as well as any alerts.
>> 
>> They will show up in the notification center, but I don't want to keep
>> having to check there to see if I have missed something.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
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Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

[Sadam Ahmed]

I believe you may have the bi-14 Brailliant display  from Humanware.

If this is the case, Kitty is quite correct, you can try downloading the 
Brailliant Sync from the App Store.


Although, from reading your question, I'd agree with Richard, it would 
be worth contacting Apple and letting them know as it sounds like 
something they would need to look at in terms of an  iOS feature request 
instead of the display's vendor.




On 9/21/2018 1:43 AM, kitty hevener wrote:
okay, I am not familiar with that one.  I use the hims product line.  
I did read where there apparently is a ap that is free designed for 
the brailliant.  Maybe someone else has more info.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMessages while using a braille display.

It’s one of the Brailliant variants. Their
latest model.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2018, at 6:56 AM, kitty hevener  
wrote:


what braille display are you using?  I only ask because I assume 
different displays work differently.


-Original Message- From: Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessages while using a braille display.

Hi all,


I'm a reasonably new-comer to this technokogy, and I'm curious as to 
whether or not anyone else finds the "Contact is typing" or that 
they've stopped typing messages which disrupt the entire writing 
process messages to be as annoying as I do. Or, is there a way to 
make one's display less...verbose? How do the rest of you who are 
display users find the state of braille on iOS generally? Like I 
said, I'm a new display user, so am perfectly willing to admit the 
issue is something I'm not doing correctly, so I'm reaching out in 
hopes that isn't some half-baked bug...


thanks in advance everyone, for any light you're able to shed on this.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed

[Gerardo Corripio]

Definitely not standard behavior after major updates. I’ve never had this 
happen on my bard APP THANK GOD.

Gera
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El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 9:15 a. m., Marie N.  escribió:

> Lisa, I would say that the issue with Bard is definitely not standard 
> behavior with an upgrade and I did not have this with either my ITouch or 
> IPhone. I am constantly surprised when people have such diverse experiences 
> when upgrading the same model of phones. But this might have been because you 
> were skipping IOS 11 whereas I was not.
> Marie
> 
> -Original Message- From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:06 PM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed
> 
> Well, I haven't had that much trouble, to be honest.  Most of my
> settings were intact with one huge exception that I'll talk about below.
> 
> 
> The only issue I had was with the BARD app.  I couldn't navigate from
> tab to tab at all.  I closed the app, restarted the phone, and had the
> same problem.  My next step would have been uninstalling and then
> downloading it again.  But I checked the main settings screen and found
> the BARD Mobile app and found an option to initialize settings within
> that subsection.
> 
> 
> This meant that when I reopened the app, I had to agree to the BARD
> terms of service and reenter my user name and password.  Once this was
> done, my bookshelf, wish list and previous downloads were restored,
> though I did have to readjust settings for using cellular data from
> within the BARD Mobile app.  Oh, and the option to hear progress beeps
> was on when I had it set to off before the update.
> 
> 
> For all I know this could be standard behavior, but I don't remember
> having to do it when I was using BARD with my iPhone 5, but who knows. I
> tend to block out stressful technical things to keep my sanity. 
> 
> 
> The battery seems to be draining faster than usual.  I'm assuming this
> is part of the update as indicated in the article someone mentioned on
> this list the other day.
> 
> 
> Also, I have downloaded the SIRI female voice to use with VO.  It works
> great, but I can't adjust anything as far as volume, speaking rate or
> pitch is concerned.  I've got speaking rate and volume on my rotor, and
> they do absolutely nothing for the female SIRI voice.  I have UK and
> Australian voices in my rotor, as well as the male SIRI U.S. voice and
> they all can be adjusted.
> 
> 
> None of these are showstoppers for me.  I'm sure I'll run across minor
> things.  So far every app I've opened that is part of the native iOS
> package gives me welcome screens and little summaries about new
> features.  But all works as it should once I've gotten past those screens.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
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> 
>> On 9/19/2018 9:45 PM, Robin wrote:
>> ThankYou,Lisa B for sharing your Experience  with  your Findings about 
>> transitioning from iOS10.3.3  to iOS12 on  an iPhoneSE ... Have you noticed 
>> any HickUps or perceived flaws or perceived bugs? If so, have these Flaws or 
>> Bugs or HickUps impacted your performance using VoiceOver (I,Robin Presume) 
>> you,Lisa B use VoiceOver  ... on Apple's iOS12
>> 
>> What Replacement did you Locate   for the iOS MobileApp, EyeNote?
>> At 07:18 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
>>> Robin, most of the apps I had that weren't compatible with iOS 11 would pop 
>>> up a message saying the developer needed to update the app before it would 
>>> work with iOS 11.  This was a pop up dialog that appeared when the app was 
>>> opened and could be gotten rid of with a double tap of the Okay button.  
>>> Once that dialog was gone, the app functioned normally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just off the top of my head, the apps I no longer have access to are 
>>> Eyenote, Color ID, Agogo, Sixth Sense and Where's ducky. When I tried 
>>> opening these apps after the update I got the same message I'd get before 
>>> the update, only now the app doesn't open when the message disappears, I 
>>> just land back on the home screen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will miss Sixth Sense, but I've found better if not superior replacements 
>>> for the other apps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
 On 9/19/2018 8:11 PM, Robin wrote:
 ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
 iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I 
 don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any 
 of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I 
 recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
 I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share 
 YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List 
 as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested 
 in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from