Re: [Vo]:David French died

[Daniel Rocha]

A horrific loss for Cold Fusion, as patents is one of the weakest weak
spots of the field.

Em ter, 4 de dez de 2018 às 18:09, Jed Rothwell 
escreveu:

> I regret to announce that David French died on December 2, 2018. It was
> sudden and not expected. He was a jolly good fellow, and I shall miss him.
>
> He was an expert on patents, and cold fusion patents in particular. See:
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FrenchDpatentsand.pdf
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedy.pdf#page=103
>
> - Jed
>
>

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Re: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24

[Daniel Rocha]

The COP according to the blackbody, even with noise, should be above
10,000, with the output being of the order 1000W. It should be easy to make
a self sustaining demonstration if that was a true device.

2017-11-26 19:00 GMT-02:00 Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com>:

> Yeah whoever thought it was a good idea to let Andrea Rossi speak without
> a microphone in a room full of hum (I've tried processing it, it's hopeless
> and I don't have the time or inclination to go deeper into it) should be
> sent a microphone a day for the rest of their life.
>
>
> On 26 November 2017 at 17:44, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Jones was too kind. It was not a demo. It was three hours of
>> dithering.  Mats should be embarrassed by the sound control if nothing else.
>>
>>
>> I wondered what Rossi's trick would be this time. It was acting like a
>> person who has no clue what he is trying to accomplish.
>>
>>
>> I guess this makes me a 'pathoskeptic'.
>>
>> I think A.R. owes all of us three hours for the amateur hours he
>> presented to us.  The Swedish Academy has little to be proud of here.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:18 PM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24
>>
>> I don't agree.  The measurements of energy out & in were good enough to
>> demonstrate the basic characteristics of the QX.  That was the purpose of
>> the demo.  I t would be impossible to to do a replicable experiment without
>> giving the IP away.
>>
>> The pathosskeptics make much of the crude power pack with 60 W of cooling
>> But I don't believe that power could be magically transferred to heat the
>> water.  What could Rossi possibly get from such a scam?  It's not to get
>> money from the general public but possibly to interest venture capitalists:
>> they would do their own due diligence, such as measuring the voltage across
>> the reactor.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Nov 25, 2017 10:16 am
>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24
>>
>>
>> Video of demonstration:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkj-7whwpUk
>> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dlkj-7whwpUk=02%7C01%7CAhern_Brian%40msn.com%7C8866ac17cc374e7ffe1a08d53430eb81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636472307065728412=Cb%2B4ycYhrdlRi8R0qkUV9WkXwzBzsX6yToSPHwj59eQ%3D=0>
>>
>> Funny that few comments are coming out on this - other than from Mats,
>> who would benefit if this demo meant anything positive.
>> In fact, it is not a demo in any real sense … it is disappointing theatre
>> to all but the Rossi-flock.  In no way does this salvage Rossi’s
>> credibility with scientists, nor that of Levi and the Swedes, who still
>> look like dupes who should, but will not, retract their egregious errors at
>> Lugano.
>> There is no useful information being supplied which can lead to
>> verification or replication. Voltage appears to have been estimated from
>> resistance… with pulsed power, that is a no-no and thus the input could
>> have been hundreds of times greater than suggested. Why not measure input
>> power at the plug and include the cooling power since it is required?
>> Given Rossi’s three decade long record of fraud and deceit as a backdrop
>> – either independent replication or a commercial product will be the only
>> thing that can help.
>> So far, this is little more than a crude repeat of the past 6 years
>> except now there is even less relevant information to use in replication
>> than with the past failures. Few will waste their time.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Vo]:Ross E-Cat QX demo Nove 24

[Daniel Rocha]

Where is the theory part on the video?

Re: [Vo]:Boston Dynamics's latest iteration

[Daniel Rocha]

The fall in the end was the most interesting. It does look like the way
Olympic gymnasts fall. If they can make it rise fast, like a human, it will
be awesome.

The biggest limitation here, though, it is the lack of power efficiency.
They still look very heavy and the battery don't seem to last long.

2017-11-16 23:24 GMT-02:00 Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>:

> See:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj34o4hN4I=youtu.be
>
> Eric
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

These think tanks more or less exposes the same type of thing. But, let me
show some good sources from "my side", these people more or less exposes
the same type of thing

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/
https://critiqueofcrisistheory.wordpress.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCvdjsJtifsZoShjcAAHZpA/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/user/MaoistRebelNews2/playlists?shelf_id=0=1=dd


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Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Adrian, I don't know what you consider to be wealth. I don't get why you
talk about taxes. I don't get why you talk about businesses. Taxes has
nothing to do with socialism, it is something that belongs to capitalism,
or save for cooperatives at best. You are citing England You are talking
about private property. This is something abolished (with very small
exceptions). I am talking about USSR, specially under Stalin, North Korea,
Maoist China, Cuba Yugoslavia, socialists Albania, the countries of the
Warsaw pact.

2017-10-15 13:36 GMT-02:00 Adrian Ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:

> Daniel,
>
> Capitalism has a far better record for increasing a country's wealth than
> Socialism.  The problem with Socialism is that it reduces incentives to
> work. I lived in England when the top tax rate was 93% and on top of that
> there was a purchase tax of 33.3%.  What is the point of working harder and
> longer when you get to keep so little?  The government also nationalized
> major industries that prompt;y went downhill.  Many of us then emigrated.
> It was known as the brain drain.
>
> When I was young most businesses treated their employees better and there
> was a sense of loyalty in both directions.  Increased profits were shared
> to some extent.  T hat has all changed since the 1970s.
> Richard Thaler,who has just won the Nobel prize in economics, has
> corrected some of the flaws in economic theory, but the damage has already
> been done. My point was that it will be a different game with 30 - 50%
> unemployed.  In general it would be better for the individual to decide how
> to spend his money rather than have some socialist bureaucrat do it.  Hence
> UBI.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>
> To: John Milstone <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 11:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.
>
> Adrian,
>
> It's a matter of perspective of to works for who and to whom. In my
> perspective, capitalism has been tried and never worked. Socialism (I
> reserve communism for something else, utopic) always worked better on
> average for most individuals, within my parameters. I didn't see it not
> working but rather being defeated by external force, in most places though(
> there is still North Korea and Cuba). The sheer lack of planning, leaving
> stuff for random market forces, will necessarily lead to ultimate
> destruction of capitalism, what comes next is anybody guess.
>
> Note, I didn't address the state of affairs as power, but of
> responsibility that a given system gives to individuals. I don't see greed
> as a thing or an issue at all. I don't see it greed arising from evolution,
> so I don't see it as human nature, it is lack of planning, lack of
> accountability, on ideological level. This is why I see socialism as more
> akin to human nature, but capitalism must be really destroyed, even at
> ideological level, similar to the idea of serfdom or slavery. Then, the
> idea of socialism will have to be destroyed in order to achieve communism.
>
> Robots and AI will always be under the command of some people, so, I don't
> see any hope in there. Machines will not achieve a transition to complete
> control out of nowhere, similar to sky net. I don't see technology as
> something that arises from a given economic system. It is rather applied
> scientific method to solve problems and that's it. So, the British taking
> technology here or there is not something good or bad, rather, it is its
> use that matters.
>
> I don't hope to convince anyone, I am showing a way out, in case anyone
> reads this someday. I won't typein capslock like "Che" does, because,
> ultimately, as my father says, if you don't learn by means of love, you
> will learn by pain (and no, I am not saying in the hands of communists,
> quite the opposite).
>



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Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Adrian,

It's a matter of perspective of to works for who and to whom. In my
perspective, capitalism has been tried and never worked. Socialism (I
reserve communism for something else, utopic) always worked better on
average for most individuals, within my parameters. I didn't see it not
working but rather being defeated by external force, in most places though(
there is still North Korea and Cuba). The sheer lack of planning, leaving
stuff for random market forces, will necessarily lead to ultimate
destruction of capitalism, what comes next is anybody guess.

Note, I didn't address the state of affairs as power, but of responsibility
that a given system gives to individuals. I don't see greed as a thing or
an issue at all. I don't see it greed arising from evolution, so I don't
see it as human nature, it is lack of planning, lack of accountability, on
ideological level. This is why I see socialism as more akin to human
nature, but capitalism must be really destroyed, even at ideological level,
similar to the idea of serfdom or slavery. Then, the idea of socialism will
have to be destroyed in order to achieve communism.

Robots and AI will always be under the command of some people, so, I don't
see any hope in there. Machines will not achieve a transition to complete
control out of nowhere, similar to sky net. I don't see technology as
something that arises from a given economic system. It is rather applied
scientific method to solve problems and that's it. So, the British taking
technology here or there is not something good or bad, rather, it is its
use that matters.

I don't hope to convince anyone, I am showing a way out, in case anyone
reads this someday. I won't typein capslock like "Che" does, because,
ultimately, as my father says, if you don't learn by means of love, you
will learn by pain (and no, I am not saying in the hands of communists,
quite the opposite).

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Adrian, I am talking about the whole world. The rot began in in a few
places, in antiquity, when class society began. That is, ony part of the
population got the best slice of the pie. It's difficult for some of us
who live in the 1st world (I live in the 3rd) and never saw what it is
abject poverty. Sure, in absolute terms, indeed things improved, because
there is internet, antibiotics, for most. But improving is not enough,
because that's not human nature to accept inequality, despite the existence
of hierarchies. This was never the case in our evolution and those who are
higher in power had actually to personally respond to their community the
reason of why they are there.

The higher the rate of inequality, the more you will have a tendency to
have violent society or the number of people in jail. It doesn't matter if
you prohibit drugs or not, if you control weapons or not, that's just all
red herring. The one who are poor, for generation, will always be in revolt
and attempting violent acts against the ones who are better off. If you
deregulate or regulate something, that won't matter for them, they will
just change the type of weapons or what is used to get stuff in "the easy
way".

There is a tendency for people to be leaders, to collectively own some
items (pieces of land become such items when society becomes sedentary).
There is a tendency to fight for things which are important, to the point
of death, specially where there is scarcity. But, there is no justification
for greed. Some people are good managers or some have some type of talent,
and eventually ends up making other people to work for them. The product of
such work,that is money, ends up being owned by whoever commands the
employees(it could be master/slave, lord/serf, large share owner/employee).
  There is a systematic to think that this is normal. But it is not. This
is herd behavior akin to the dismissal of cold fusion. It is a cultural
domino effect.

I will give you a perspective of how things are progressively worse, on
relative terms, which leads to worse unsolvable contradictions. For the 170
years, there has  rational justification for scarcity. When European
colonial powers laid down the telegraph under the oceans, they were able
plan and to enforce the extraction of raw materials in any part of the
world. Before that, that could only be done within the Americas, which was
much closer, inhabited by people with a much lower level of technology, in
general. But this was the beginning of a major contradiction, that is, it
was possible to actually plan the economy in a global level, an utopia
could be actually built. Instead, the opposite happened, an arms race
started, large business were integrated to governments because
technological levels raised to a point when even mowing down opponents was
profitable enough to be justifiable.

This kept going until keeping colonies was too costly, after WWII, and the
awareness of the exploitation characteristic of colonization became too
apparent and fragile. But not without a rather small elite in each of this
countries appear. Unlike the 1st world, these were rather small and in
absolute terms, their middle class are in general at a poverty level of the
1st world. If AI becomes powerful enough, there will not be anywhere to
relay menial jobs. To make matters worse, it seems clear that the
sovereignty of any country can only be maintained with a large barrage of
nuclear weapons. I will give you an example, in 1960, USA could assemble a
nuke every few hours. Since 1991, neither Russia nor USA get rid ofno  more
than 5 or 10% of the total fissile material at the peak of cold war (fusion
material is comparatively easier to obtain, the difficulty is in design).
There is enough right now to assemble 80,000 war heads. Probably much more,
as warheads become more sophisticated and yield decrease. You can send many
more in a single missile, and do much more damage.

The way I see it, is that we are living in the eye of a hurricane, as
tensions grow more and more. Cold fusion is the only way I see to ease all
that, as it would allow the discontents with the civilization, as it is
now, to live well in relative isolation.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Alain, when I tried to get into detail with Jed, the subject had already
changed, at least in my mind. But, implementing AI,  for me,is one capable
of understanding contexts, is different from any type of technology we know
it. It is not a mere aide to human skills, this time is really erasing the
human part from the equation. So, what I tried to argue, being optimistic
perhaps, it is that AI is not so devastating because it is simply not AI
proper. It is rather a misnomer for techniques that allow some simple
activities to be done by a automatically.

The strong AI which I am really scared of, is such that even innovation
centers you mention would be soon made useless, since AI would be able to
do that. These people would be really be left to poverty and there would be
no interest in bringing anything to them.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Jed, I did not say that something is narrow, only. I said that there is an
accumulation of narrow techniques that accumulate. We, humans, along many
animals, do have many of these mechanisms of patter recognition, such as
overall syntax, face identification, sexual orientation, some sense of
beauty regarding a few symmetric things, following objects with the eyes,
finding boundaries in a landscape. Or, applying techniques to games and so
on.To tell you the truth, I am not sure if we are just reproducing these
automatic mechanism,by adding them bit by bit and if they will lead to a
contextual understanding of things.  But, I am kind of skeptical.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

The point it is that, as far as I can notice here, there is no such notion.
You are telling them stuff without explaining what you mean. You seem to be
a lunatic or a fanatic for them. You are talking about a game they don't
know, you don't explain the rules at all, that is, how you reached such
conclusions,  and you don't seem to notice that.

2017-10-13 20:27 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>:

> No, that's just what people 'improving' marxism -- i.e. reformist radicals
> (an oxymoron, no?) -- invariably call real marxists. You know: those people
> who hold onto their quaint, old, obsolete, fervent beliefs in things like
> historical-materialism, the Internationalist proletariat and
> class-struggle...
>
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
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Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

I am aware of these tidbits. But,Language is mechanical and have universal
rules that are quite strict.If you feed it with massive quantities of data,
it will eventually get it right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example-based_machine_translation .
It can be seen here an example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_grammar . And, as I mentioned, as
times go, examples of very narrow problems accumulate, which gives an
impression of advance. But, all that is achieved because, even if something
is superficially very subjective, it has rules. There is no understanding
of a text or a context, even if the translation is correct. That's because
grammar rules are strict. That is the same with poker and go.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Neither AI nor robots are a problem at all, the trouble is the transition.
As the transition happens, people are not happily lose their jobs neither
owners of large business will be able to sustain profits, this is
unsolvable contradiction (that is, not solvable without violence). Unlike
other types of innovation, AI is not an amplification of human labor, it is
a substitution to humans. Perhaps, if cold fusion were to be realized
before such threshold was crossed, people would perhaps get away from
civilization and mind their own business, but it doesn't seem the case
until now. There isn't,though, any meaningful advance in AI for decades.
What happens is the massive feed of data for very repetitive tasks in a
very narrow field of expertise.It just happens that, as time goes, the
number of narrow field increases. A true AI wouldn't require that much data
to learn new fields.

Indeed, all revolutions were associated with poverty. But not exactly any
type of poverty. It's a type of poverty that cannot be brushed away. In the
case of UK, or most developed countries, at least part of menial jobs could
be offloaded to colonies or to the third world, so you wouldn't have too
much people angry close together. This is not enough though, because you
have to have a strong army with high morale and with massive support of the
population (partisans, like Vietcongs). This high morale, for example, came
in general in the form of genocide from a foreign invader. This is the case
of Russia in the 1st world war, which suffered genocide from the rulings of
nobles (they spoke French among themselves, for example); China, South East
Asia, from Japan and European powers; East Europe, were devastated by
Nazis, had, because of that, a vast quantity of partisans, and they were
the ones that ruled. Fractured countries, without a clear ethnic majority
failed, like in Africa, Middle East and in most of the Andean countries. In
South Asia, there is a long stale mate because, while they are fractured,
each of one them is quite large.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

Things are not so simple, as I see it. I don't see the actual China as
socialist or communist, nor I see them returning to a socialist path. This
will become clear later, though this is a very very rough explanation.
Things do not really get cheap because they are more abundantly produced
(now I am putting my point of view in this whole thing, which is not really
standard) because money (gold or precious metals) or value in circulation
(I am not counting credit/debt here) also decreases because labor employed
in industry (the source) decreases accordingly. So, there is less and less
money to expend, credit, instead, expands, and thus debt, because it just
cannot be payed. Sectors of economy become glut and bubbles are created.

Pegging money to something of value is also not good. Eventually, it is not
enough to keep track of the quantity of things produced, so stagflation
happens. Just printing money is also not good, it leads to hyperinflation.
A socialist system, ideally, do not have such problems because money is
used as grants or as a mean of accounting. This is possible because there
is no accumulation of money in the hand of few. But, the world is not
ideal, simply because all countries need to trade and the world is nearly
all capitalist. So, what happens is that there is a need to accumulate
reserves, which generally leads to stagnation. Both USSR and USA suffered
from this problem starting in the 70s, but USA could alleviate the problem
with the Volker shock, that is, letting credit abound, multiplying
reserves. Not so much USSR, given its ideological compromise. Straying off
this path led to its doom. Many countries of East Europe acquired large
debts with IMF, which led them, in a way or another, to bankrupt. Look for
the total debt of countries (not just public only, money flows indent of
ownership)you will see that they all of them explode starting around 1980.
Soon, shit will hit the fan.

China is different case though. It could save itself by crippling the
economic conditions on the countryside and making people start to cities,
where they could provide cheap work for industries. So, Chinese leadership
deliberately sabotaged the most basic epithets of socialism in order to
stay in power.  They have been trying to improve the conditions on the
countryside in the last few years, though, in order to avoid rebellions in
the city. Wages raised and so unemployment. The labor is not so cheap
anymore, it's getting close to Mexico, officially.

There has been some attempt, though not conscious, in setting something
similar to precious metal. Crypt currencies somehow are equivalent to mine,
where value comes labor employed through maintenance of servers or that
employed in the electric system. But, the value it seems, I am not sure if
it is regulated by the market, unlike with precious metals. There is a
certain scarcity factor that is introduce to make mining more difficult, I
cannot, right now see this as really equivalent to a real mine running out.
In any case, fluctuations make it not suitable for the people in general to
trade. Like with precious metal, there should be some kind of "bank notes",
or some similar thing to avoid fluctuations.

Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

I guess you are being ultra left here. The guy is showing will to learn and
you are kind of snubbing him.

2017-10-13 3:29 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> This is just (yawn) one more fake 'post-marxist' analysis (of which there
> has been plenty: 'Post Modernism' being the exemplar of this genre).
> Dismissing the importance of those CENTRAL materialist concepts -- the
> Means and Mode of Production -- is a dead giveaway that this is just one
> more quasi-/pseudo-'scientific' analysis. With a suspect political-economic
> -- no doubt petit-bourgeois liberal -- agenda behind it, of course.
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Robots to replace writers.

[Daniel Rocha]

This is over optimism based on the moderate success of translation of non
creative writing.Most science and news reports, is very mechanical. We are
born with mechanism that universally holds for every language, in terms of
organizing adjectives, substantives, agreements. What the machine does is
to identify this elements in a language using statistics based on
collections, and parse the equivalent to another language, also based on
statistics.

Now writing, specially creative writting relies on context. Guessing what
will happen, as it is alleged in the text, won't make anything worth.

Re: [Vo]:LENR as a superconductor

[Daniel Rocha]

A superconductor must have the Meisner effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
The non detection of resistance is merely an evidence for
superconductivity.

2017-08-12 18:21 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>:

> There has been a lot of discussion here recently about the resistance of
> the E-Cat QuarkX, and Andrea Rossi had said that he considered the matter
> of the electrical resistance of the E-Cat QX to be confidential information.
>
> Today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, however, Rossi gave a direct
> answer to a question on the subject:
>
> Prof
> August 10, 2017 at 4:21 AM
> Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
> Which is the internal resistance of the Ecat QX?
> Cheers
> Prof
>
> Andrea Rossi
> August 10, 2017 at 2:33 PM
> Prof:
> Zero.
> Warm Regards,
> A.R.
>
> If this really is the case, then the E-Cat QX would be a superconductor —
> making it even more remarkable than “just” being an energy catalyzer/energy
> multiplier
>
>
> Superconductivity is just as or maybe even more controversial than LENR
> is. Who could imagine that a material could become superconducting at room
> temperature let alone at 3000K. But there are indicators in LENR
> experiments that point to superconductors partially forming at room
> temperature and even at higher temperatures.
>
> For example, the electrical resistance of Celini's wire goes down when its
> temperature rises. Also hydrogen loaded palladium becomes a room
> temperature superconductor when the hydrogen loading is high.
>
> One of the factors that can be causing this drop in electrical resistance
> is the formation of islands of superconductivity that form in the lattice
> or the plasma that is producing the LENR effect.
>
> Electrons could be jumping from island to island in their trip across the
> lattice. When the electron is moving past the LENR Island on its boundary,
> it gets a free ride but the resistance returns in its trip between islands.
>
> Ultra-dense hydrogen has been found to be a room temperature
> superconductor and produces the messier effect. Highly loaded palladium
> could contain a high number of Ultra-dense hydrogen islands of
> superconductivity in a lattice.
>
> Rossi’s plasma could contain a high number of LENR reaction generating
> superconducting nanowires (Ken Shoulders called them EVOs) that let
> electrons travel on them with no resistance.
>
> I believe that Rossi adds vanadium oxide to his fuel mix as LENR reaction
> booster. This additive vaporizes at 3000K. In this way, this additive
> produces vanadium nanowires at 3000K when the vanadium condenses like rain
> drops in a cloud; the electric current jumps from nanowire to nanowire as
> they get a free ride across the plasma thereby reducing the electrical
> resistant to near zero.
>
> This negation in electrical resistant produced by a hot research topic is
> sciences these days called non-equilibrium Bose-Einstein condensates, a
> state of matter produced in polaritons. The vanadium nanoparticles like
> most other transition metal nanowires carry polaritons on their surface.
>
> See how quantum mechanics can generate this Bose condensate that can form
> at 3000K here.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1509.05264
>
> Here is what the surface of a hot metal nanowire looks like when
> polaritons can be envisioned.
>
> [image: Thumbnail]
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Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi 'won'

[Daniel Rocha]

You mean 7 million of attorney's fees or 4+11-attorney's fees?

2017-07-27 10:37 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene :

> 1) Rossi has a net of about $4 million ($11 million minus attorneys fees)

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Daniel Rocha]

Now that Rossi has much more free time, I expect him to have bold strides
in making new devices. The bad times are now past!

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

Wasn't it small pox and other viral infections? And yes, it was a non
intended conquering, the same happened in pacific islands, or any place
that did not have contacts with Europe since the ice age. Though, it was
only a matter of time, just like anywhere else in the world. If you go to
places where theses civilizations lived, people do have a phenotype which
is like those of natives. Contrast that with places where there wasn't
civilizations, such South America outside the Andes. People do tend to look
far less native American than anywhere else. I think the death was much
more limited then though, but enough to speed their demise.


2017-07-08 9:20 GMT-03:00 Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com>:

> The Spanish had cholera. It was 100 times as effective as gunpowder.
> --
>
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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

You are trolling. Or you lack objectivity. If you cannot explain something
that simple to someone very educated, you are pretty worthless to explain
anything to a working person.

2017-07-07 19:59 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>:

>
> Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post!
>
>
>

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Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Daniel Rocha]

This is not how a socialist talks. This is all due capitalism, name calling
different times in the class struggle. These are all synonyms, made by
those who are afraid of seeking revolution.

2017-07-07 18:02 GMT-03:00 Che :

>
>
>  Neoliberal age of oligarchic plundering of our entire society.
>

Re: [Vo]:Picking up the pieces

[Daniel Rocha]

Look at the bright side people. Now that the trial is over, the Rossi will
come with his new products with full force!!! IH will also push people into
the show with full force!!!

I think that both IH and Rossi are staging a circus and dragging people
into the show and taking money from investors.

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

First time I was called anti communist. LOL. I've seen revisionist, tankie
and all the crap.

2017-07-07 7:20 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>:

>
>
>
> People here do not want to see me get into a tiresome, useless argument
> with a know-nothing anti-communist puhtz like you.
> Simple.
> Like you.
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

You don't know how to answer that, because that is the plain truth.

2017-07-06 23:49 GMT-03:00 Che :

>
> Blah, blah, blah... not worth replying to.
> WTF am I ignoring. You're just trying to score some dumb brownie points.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

Che Trotsky, you are ignoring material conditions, we do not know how Cold
Fusion works, and historical conditions, that is, we are in capitalism and
cold fusion is not trusted. Even in whatever form of socialism you
subscribe, you'd have to either convince many other workers to see the
importance of this subject. Just because you have a system where the rule
of value does not apply, it doesn't mean science and scientists will work
any differently.



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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Daniel Rocha]

It's cold fusion for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_ColdFusion .

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Daniel Rocha]

I think that, because things were kept in secret, it will keep going with,
perhaps, more steam (pun intended, LOL!!!).

2017-07-05 13:55 GMT-03:00 Alain Sepeda :

> I with the crook will be prevented to be a nuisance again...
> whoever you think it is (I have an opinion).
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Daniel Rocha]

So much drama for nothing...

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

[Daniel Rocha]

Ice Pick.

Re: [Vo]:Google translation of an electrochemistry paper

[Daniel Rocha]

ore, as hybrid cars that are collecting the topic of
> the future as a future model car also hydrogen batteries using misch metal
> are mounted, enabling environmentally friendly and fuel-efficient systems
> where metal materials occlude hydrogen, metal crystals As hydrogen enters
> the lattice, lattice expansion occurs, resulting in bulk expansion near 10
> to 25% 7) There is further hydrogen release, bulk material shrinks in a
> relatively short time, When this expansion / contraction is repeated, the
> hydrogen occlusion metal generates a mylocrack and is pulverized. This
> micronization leads to deterioration of the hydrogen occluding metal and
> becomes a problem from the viewpoint of durability. Several studies on this
> micronization mechanism have been conducted at the practical material
> level, and internal strain accompanying volume expansion generates micro
> cracks, which promotes micronization, has been proposed)) · 9 However There
> are many unsolved problems such as the relationship between bulk
> deformation (volume expansion) in the macro field and the lattice expansion
> of the microfield, the internal strain distribution caused by the lattice
> expansion, the occurrence of microcracks and its progress process, many
> problems, durability of the hydrogen storage material It is an obstacle to
> improve sex. The authors conducted a single cycle and multiple cycle
> hydrogen charge and discharge experiments by electrolysis using a Pd sample
> which is a typical hydrogen storage material, and the basic relationship
> between material deformation and degradation accompanying hydrogen
> absorption As investigated, the Pd material exhibits gradually deformed
> fracture behavior as the hydrogenation cycle is repeated, its behavior is
> also based on the occurrence of plastic strain and microcrack in one cycle,
> and the number of hydrogen cycles It was the process of accumulating it as
> it overlapped. Therefore, in this paper, we report the deformation /
> deterioration behavior in the hydrogen occlusion-release process of a
> single cycle.
>
>
> Here is the version lightly edited by me:
>
> Regarding the behavior of hydrogen in metallic structures, many studies 1)
> - 3) have been done mainly concerning the hydrogen embrittlement problem.
> Solid dissolved hydrogen is trapped in dislocations, voids and the like in
> a steel material structure such as carbon steel and stainless steel, and is
> thought to be a factor that promotes destruction, so research to elucidate
> the material embrittlement mechanism by hydrogen is being conducted. Then
> too, recently, from the viewpoint of global environmental problems,
> development of a hydrogen storage material as a clean hydrogen energy
> carrier has been actively underway, that is, development of some metals
> including rare earth metals that easily form hydrides which have the
> ability to absorb and release about 1000 times as much hydrogen as their
> own volume. As already seen in nickel-metal hydride batteries 5), etc.,
> this product has been commercialized and the demand is rapidly increasing
> year by year. Furthermore, hybrid cars, which are attracting attention the
> car of the future, are also equipped with hydrogen batteries using misch
> metal, enabling environmentally friendly and fuel-efficient systems where
> metal materials absorb hydrogen, metal crystals As hydrogen enters the
> lattice, lattice expansion occurs, resulting in bulk expansion near 10 to
> 25% 7). When there is further hydrogen release, the bulk material shrinks
> in a relatively short time. When this expansion / contraction cycle is
> repeated, the hydride generates microcracks and is pulverized (micronized).
> This micronization leads to deterioration of the hydrogen absorbing metal
> and it becomes a problem because it reduces durability. Several studies on
> this micronization mechanism have been conducted at the practical material
> level, and internal strain accompanying volume expansion generates micro
> cracks, which promotes micronization, has been proposed 9). However, there
> are many unsolved problems such as the relationship between bulk
> deformation (volume expansion) at the macro-level and lattice expansion at
> the micro-level; the internal strain distribution caused by the lattice
> expansion; the occurrence of microcracks and their progression. These
> problems are obstacles to improving the durability of the hydrogen storage
> material.
>
> - Jed
>
>


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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBB8SgHazs

2017-04-03 0:05 GMT-03:00 Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As an ideologue, remember to alway keep your feet planted firmly on the
> solid foundation of realism.
>
>
>
> Frankly, I'll take an ideological stance over crass, money-grubbing
> commercialism, any day.
> Look where that's got us.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

In case you don't  know spanish:

THREE SAD TROTSKIERS HAMERED STONES IN A GULAG

Three Sad Trotskyists
They ended up in a gulag for betraying each other.
For the mistake made in following Leon Trotsky
Coming to the following conclusion:

TROTSTKY !!
Damn Menshevik opposed to Lenin and Marxism Leninism
He deceived us and filled the red army of tsarist officers
He should be here !!

Trotskyists dirty traitors
They divide and divide many times between them because they are traitors
Same as its leader Leon Trotsky.
Ramon Mercader became a worker icon an ice ax

Trotskyism
Opportunistic and petty-bourgeois ideological stream
With the entrismo was wanted to destroy the Soviet union
They are now vulgar reformists rejected by the left

Trotskyists dirty traitors
They divide and divide many times between them because they are traitors
Same as its leader Leon Trotsky.
Ramon Mercader became a worker icon an ice ax

Three Trotskyist Tristres
Tractioning between them as is normal ended up stinging in a large gulag
Wishing Leon Trotsky death
Ramon Merchant became an icon worker an ice ax

2017-04-02 19:39 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> Che, this is a present for you: https://www.youtube.com/
> watch?v=uD8WwCd7E14
>



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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

Che, this is a present for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD8WwCd7E14

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

He didn't seem to display

2017-04-01 22:20 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> Useless aggressiveness. It's not impossible, it is just that he seem to
> display this kind of knowledge before. So, working with a specialist, did
> good to him. He seemed to answer in a more casual way about some nuclear
> phenomena than before.
>
> 2017-04-01 21:43 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:
>
>>  I suppose it is impossible for you to  consider that one could keep up
>> to date in a subject if motivated to do so.
>>
>
> --
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> danieldi...@gmail.com
>



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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

Useless aggressiveness. It's not impossible, it is just that he seem to
display this kind of knowledge before. So, working with a specialist, did
good to him. He seemed to answer in a more casual way about some nuclear
phenomena than before.

2017-04-01 21:43 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:

>  I suppose it is impossible for you to  consider that one could keep up to
> date in a subject if motivated to do so.
>

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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

I mean, not after the theory of neutrinos was conceived in the standard
model.

2017-04-01 19:42 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> That's philosophy of relativity. And that's from the 70's, not long after
> it was inventive. Moreover, you don't need to know particle physics to
> study relativity.
>
> 2017-04-01 16:39 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:
>
>> Rossi got a PhD in Philosophy with a thesis on relativity.  I have no
>> reason to think he didn't know something of atomic physics for many years.
>> AA
>>
>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>



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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

That's philosophy of relativity. And that's from the 70's, not long after
it was inventive. Moreover, you don't need to know particle physics to
study relativity.

2017-04-01 16:39 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:

> Rossi got a PhD in Philosophy with a thesis on relativity.  I have no
> reason to think he didn't know something of atomic physics for many years.
> AA
>
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

I am not being snarky. I am just stating something evident. And you seem to
forget that I side with Rossi and I think all is wrong with IH "evidences".

2017-04-01 13:51 GMT-03:00 a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>:

> Why be so snarky?  You have no clue when Rossi learnt that.  Jumping to
> conclusions on such flimsy evidence does nothing for your credibility.
>
> AA
>
> On 3/31/2017 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Not really a big deal. That's a merely cursory knowledge of particle
> physics. He probably learned about this when writing his last paper.
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]: Rossi on atomic physics.

[Daniel Rocha]

Not really a big deal. That's a merely cursory knowledge of particle
physics. He probably learned about this when writing his last paper.

[Vo]:"Long term stability and the meaning of life"-Comment, rate, and share please

[Daniel Rocha]

Dear Friends and Colleagues

I submitted an essay for a competition. http://fqxi.org/community/
essay/rules

It is worth some cash for the winners. If you can contribute by commenting,
rating and sharing. I would be very grateful.

My entry:

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2846

Re: [Vo]:Tillerson Says China Should Be Barred From South China Sea Islands

[Daniel Rocha]

Save for China, the other countries are in a really sorry state... each of
them with its own reasons. India growth, in particular, is very irregular.
BRICS are in a worst state than EU, save for China.

Re: [Vo]:Tillerson Says China Should Be Barred From South China Sea Islands

[Daniel Rocha]

Perhaps the strategy is to get in good terms with Russia and both surround
China?

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

[Daniel Rocha]

I've seen some calculations showing that there is a toroidal electric field
within the device. I wonder if the movement is due the pull of the magnetic
field of the Earth.

2016-12-28 16:43 GMT-02:00 Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com>:

> Just to point something out -- the EM drive *obviously* doesn't need to
> be outside the craft to work, since it doesn't eject mass.
>
> Furthermore (and consequently), it violates conservation of momentum,
> conservation of angular momentum, conservation of energy, and conservation
> of mass.  While data trumps theory, this doesn't seem like the most likely
> explanation of the effect to me.
>
> Gedanken:  Put an EM drive in a box.  Attach it to a wire.  Attach the
> other end of the wire to a pivot (like one of those old gas powered toy
> planes people used to have before the days of radio control).  Let the box
> with the EM drive go.  It will accelerate in a circle, around the pivot
> point.
>
> Power consumption inside the box is presumably constant.  Power generated
> varies in proportion to the speed of the box (power = force * velocity).
> So, at some point it'll be generating more power than it's consuming.  And
> there's the violation of CoE.  (With a bit of cleverness you can turn it
> into a Type I perpetual motion machine.)
>
> Meanwhile it's going lickety split around the pivot, with increasing
> angular momentum; with no mass ejection there's no compensating decrease
> anywhere else.  There's the violation of conservation of angular momentum.
>
> And as its velocity increases, its mass increases as gamma*m.  There's the
> violation of conservation of mass.
>
> And violation of linear momentum is obvious.
>
> On the other hand if it doesn't work, then all that's being violated is
> the assumption that the handful of extremely delicate high precision
> experiments that have been done to show the effect were not somehow botched.
>
> I'm not holding my breath on this one.
>
>
> On 12/28/2016 02:02 AM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> Russ,
>
> Can you verify that the Chinese actually have a functioning EM drive on
> their space station.  Also, how much thrust are they claiming?  Finally, is
> that device or group of devices capable of maintaining all of the
> orientation required for the station?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> <russ.geo...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2016 3:45 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft
>
> A curious facet of the EM drive, such as the one now operating on the
> Chinese space station is that it need not be on the outside of the
> spacecraft, it’s thrust is independent of the position and surrounding
> matter. This enables all manner of interesting spacecraft geometries.
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

[Daniel Rocha]

The 2 might intersect, but one of them will ignore your arguments. You
won't be causing any trouble, just wasting your energy.

2016-12-07 23:13 GMT-02:00 Che :

>
>
> I don't shy away from trouble. Ask the local deathsquad.
>

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

[Daniel Rocha]

You will certain not prevail in this media. Let me tell you something. In
my country, Brazil, evangelicals were suppressed or ridiculed by the
catholic church and mainstream media. But, John Pope II made the grave
mistake of alienating the popular movement of the church that helped bring
down the military dictatorship. What happened is that evangelicals seized
the opportunity to grab a lot Catholics, despite all contrary pressure from
the media.

The point is that you should get a distance  from middle class and target
the poor. Forget the 1% complaints, focus on the lower 10% against the rest
(that is obviously much more difficult in developed countries, since on
these you have a much stronger "safety net"). Eventually, you will reach a
larger base.

2016-12-07 20:58 GMT-02:00 Che :

>
>
> The immediate problem is that such social types usually intend to get the
> last word... because there's an audience. So it's not really possible in
> this totalitarian society to simply assert inconvenient truths about
> Capitalism -- and posit the alternative -- without being attacked.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

[Daniel Rocha]

It's a waste of time to argue with those with petite bourgeois mentality,
at least in Marxist terms, that's what I mean.

2016-12-07 16:12 GMT-02:00 Che :

>
> I don't even know what you getting at, fella.
>

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

[Daniel Rocha]

Che, you are barking on the wrong trees. I think it would be better to find
a better tree. Like me :P

2016-12-07 1:23 GMT-02:00 Che :

>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros 
> wrote:
>
>> Che you  hit the wrong guy. The bureaucracy cannot take any thing from me
>> except my pension. They try but . . .
>> You believe in an idea almost 200 years old andays refuse to see that
>> communism has failed since the 1850is  . That is doing the same thing over
>> aND over again. . .. Move to Venezuela.
>> Lennartout
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

How will economy improve if people are simply not buying? And it will be
much more costly. I am thinking about 90% of unemployment.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

Why do you think taxation won't be very heavy? Money won't appear out of
nowhere, minimum wage will only accelerate collapse. And there is still no
answer about the debts. In any case, there will be a finance disaster way
worse than that of 1929.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

So, during the transition, when robots are too good, but not that good,
people will be unemployed (or very, very low pay job), right? So, there is
the UBI to fix that. Right. So, there will a very heavy taxation on those
who make robots and other productive industry and that will be shared by
the population. The taxation will be greater and greater, as robots become
more and more efficient. This will make companies bankrupt, which will lead
to more unemployment and social arrest or, if there is no enough taxation,
people won't be able to find a job (or something that can pay them well
enough to make ends meet) anyway. So, there are manifold paths to societal
collapse.

The other question is that how debt, which grows more and more nowadays,
will be payed. This is a key issue and it seems another way that will lead
to a societal collapse, since there won't be enough money to pay that.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

Basic Income is a neo liberal proposal. It would allow, at a first moment,
to politically privatize welfare and healthcare services, in places where
otherwise there would exist universal care, to be in the hands of private
institutions. This institutions could set expenses high enough and, thus,
allocating from the basic income while providing low quality services. So,
it's retrograde instead of a progressive thing.

2016-11-25 13:12 GMT-02:00 H LV :

> ​Universal basic income isn't a neo-communist proposal. As far as I know
> Karl Marx never called for a basic income, and today most trade unions
> oppose it.
>
> Harry
>

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

There is an intermediate until full robotization. That is, when robots are
efficient but not that much. So, I wonder who will pay the debts when
robots/smart algorithms become more and more advanced. With people being
jobless, companies won't have to whom to sell stuff. There is the
suggestion of "basic income", but in this extreme case, it is merely
printing money, it won't circulate with enough quantities to pay enough,
well, basic stuff. Not even companies will find ways to invest, since their
products will not yield profit, since there is nothing beyond the basic to
buy them. But, even if people slowly use the basic stuff to buy some
products, all the debts, and worse, with growing interest, will not be
pardoned.

So, in this intermediate stage, I think people will get despair and there
will be a societal collapse, if the debtors simply do not forgive debts. I
see some of the sort of stuff happening nowadays. Many of the advanced
countries are injecting money, but a quite large portion of it is not used
for investment, but it is simply hoarded for especulation (futures
investiment). It looks like a vicious cycle. Japan, it seems, it is using
negative interest, but is not working well.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

[Daniel Rocha]

Well, it would become so easy, well, we could expect also an extreme
proliferation of nuclear devices, depending on the capabilities of such
machines.

Re: [Vo]:How much helium?

[Daniel Rocha]

O nuclear reactors and on the core nuclear bombs, the alpha decays makes
the material brittle. This might be part of the explanation of why cracks
are related to the efficiency of the material. Given the randomness, it
could be that the way cracks coalesce might end up making a reaction going
to the point of melting the whole thing or nothing happening. So, mixturing
with other material that drives the "percolation of cracks" may the way to
improve the fusion activity.

[Vo]:Is this Cold Fusion? (crazy conjecture)

[Daniel Rocha]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/were-now-up-to-five-reports-of-safe-galaxy-note-7s-exploding-worldwide/


   - A "safe" Note 7 that caught fire
   
<http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/a-replacement-galaxy-note-7-catches-fire-on-a-plane/>
on
   a parked Southwest Flight, triggering an evacuation of the airplane.
   - A "safe" Note 7 filled a Kentucky bedroom with smoke
   
<http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Nicholasville-mans-replacement-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7-catches-fire-396431431.html>
at
   4am, sending the owner to the hospital after he started vomiting "a lot of
   black stuff."
   - A "safe" Note 7 melted in Minnesota
   
<http://kstp.com/news/samsung-replacement-phone-melted-zuis-farmington/4285759/?cat=1>
and
   burned a 13-year-old girl's hand.
   - A "safe" Note 7 exploded in Taiwan
   
<http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/09/it-appears-another-safe-galaxy-note-7-has-exploded/>
while
   inside a woman's pants pocket.
   - A Note 7 caught fire in a South Korean baseball stadium
   <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zokMnyOZEQg=youtu.be>.
   The owner says the unit is "a new one
   
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zokMnyOZEQg=z120enz45lmpinhab04cibergsjyht3iazg0k.1475969443019382>
   ."
   - A Note 7 caught fire in a South Korean Burger King
   <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnCGyzUf5rw=youtu.be>. It's
   unknown if it's a replacement or not, but the majority of devices in South
   Korea have been replaced.


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Re: [Vo]:useful LENR is based on multiplicative excess heat

[Daniel Rocha]

What that picture show is that all equipment was dismantled since JM did
not buy the reactor, it only tested it. Also, there are  signs of a leaking
pipe bellow an open pipe above the wall, some turned off fans and a closed
hole in the ceiling. That's all. Nothing you say will convince me or Peter
of otherwise when talking about Exhibit 5. You can save yourself to mimic a
keyboard parrot.

If I were cynical, I'd say IH and Rossi were cahoot in a scheme to defraud
investors, but they broke up like thieves trying to split the money, or are
making a show to morally laundry the money in a settlement. And IH is
moving forward using other serious researches to defraud more investors, in
the same way Rossi did with Focardi.

2016-08-22 17:11 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>:

> The COP of 50 to 60 is a lie. It is impossible, as you see from the photos
> of the ceiling, and from Exhibit 5.
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

You know that saying something like this is a moot point, right?

2016-08-21 16:23 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> The mistakes you cite are imaginary.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Yes, seriously. But, that's expected since I see all IH claims with many
mistakes, inaccuracies. So, for me, it's the other way around. I see
clearly ""We must excuse IH at any cost, with any fairy tale we can think
of". And I pointed many of these. I don't have the parrot skill like Jed to
repeat the same mistaken things, despite others had clarified them, over
and over again.

2016-08-21 16:10 GMT-03:00 Stephen A. Lawrence :

>
>
> *Seriously?? *
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

I really thought of those. But I don't think they are in he correct path
(Rossi is not in the right path at all too), which contains in the theory
cracks. Akito's material does have cracks, at least he tries to make them
when preparing the material, which he calls fractal structure.

2016-08-20 20:55 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

>
> Peter Hagelstein, Dennis Letts, Brillouin,
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

They  can do a shoddy work on purpose, like they did with Rossi, claim they
saw nothing and get the technology. Which would prompt these guys  to sue
them. But since they are small, they are pretty much screwed.

2016-08-20 19:18 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> Since they actually have been given money, they were not duped.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

As usual. I hope though they are not duped by IH.

2016-08-20 18:33 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> That is not for me to say.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

What are those?

2016-08-20 17:48 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> It is funding CF research. I know some of the researchers and projects it
> is funding.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

IH is not funding any CF research.

2016-08-20 15:53 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> You are saying that we should take $100 million away from cold fusion
> research funding,
>

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

[Daniel Rocha]

That's quite a revelation. And what would they gain complaining to you? I
hardly doubt they would get more expertise given their extreme
incompetence, as you imply. I think they made you a noisy broken record to
distract the people who takes LENR seriously from looking at the case
objectively

2016-08-20 13:36 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>  They were complaining about it to many people, including me.
>

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

[Daniel Rocha]

I think Rossi is a friend of someone at IH for over 20 years. More like 30
years.

2016-08-20 13:05 GMT-03:00 Russ George :

>  that being that the two parties are in cahoots on all this
>

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

[Daniel Rocha]

That's not a bad idea. I thought about this, but nagging IH fans is more
entertaining and buys some time for people working with NiH not to be
roasted.

2016-08-20 13:05 GMT-03:00 Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com>:

> In all of this demented nattering over Rossi and IH no one seems to have
> suggested the obvious, that being that the two parties are in cahoots on
> all this. Using the old but perfect advice, 'follow the money', since IH
> has happily used Rossi to take in scores of millions from investors it
> showcased Rossi's year-long demo repeatedly to they surely have been the
> ones receiving the lion's share of the cash in this saga. Nothing makes for
> better cover like the age old drama of the pot calling the kettle black.
> That there is no SEC investigation of the affair and money men is revealing
> and suggests the entire thing is fomented by nefarious producers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: a.ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:32 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.
>
> Jed,
> AA  At this point I don't have a lot of sympathy for IH.  They have had a
> year with access to the plant to figure this out and yet they wait until
> the test is over and Rossi takes them to court to start complaining?
>
> Jed They were complaining long before that, as you saw in their Answer and
> in Exhibit 5.  You need to stop making stuff up.
>
> If they knew something was wrong, why didn't they DO something about it?
> Exhibit 5 shows the ERV's analysis that indicates the plant was working
> very well.
>
>
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

So, I Rossi deserves the money since they did not even care to bother with
the tests. They got to the point of misreading the type of flowmeter used.
They lack responsibility. They should indeed punished with 100 million,
even so because we have in play a very important technology.

2016-08-19 23:27 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
>> They knew there wasn't anything during the test
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

That's just a turned off fan. If there wasn't anything during the test, IH
is made of really, really stupid people with lots of money.

2016-08-19 22:42 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>:

> Oh, and after he removed it, he put up a broken old fan.
>
> Sure.
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

after the test was over

2016-08-19 18:32 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> He removed the equipment after the test was then. Then, much later,
> someone from IH took a picture.
>
> 2016-08-19 15:04 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> You are saying he removed the ventilation equipment whenever anyone
>> visited, because no one saw it.
>>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

He removed the equipment after the test was then. Then, much later, someone
from IH took a picture.

2016-08-19 15:04 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> You are saying he removed the ventilation equipment whenever anyone
> visited, because no one saw it.
>

Re: [Vo]: Jed's flowmeter comments chanllenged.

[Daniel Rocha]

That's a reading from the pump. Also, the photos show that the information
is wrong about the flowmeter, the type contained in the photos have much
more precision.

2016-08-19 14:22 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :

> How a single photograph taken at a particular point in time proves
> anything in terms of daily data?
> Also Jed point was that the flowmeter could not read any flow that was
> smaller than 36 kg/day as stated in the manual.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

He would leave his equipment idlying there while he has better stuff to do?

2016-08-19 12:16 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> No, he just removed his equipment after the test was done. The photo was
> taken much after the test was done. He likely stuff instead of buying,
> which is much cheaper. He won'
>
> 2016-08-19 11:25 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Okay. So, do you think Rossi removed the ventilation equipment and
>> replaced it with an old, broken fan hanging from the ceiling? Why was he in
>> such a hurry to cover up his method of removing waste heat? Why would he
>> want to cover that up at all? I suppose he would want to show it, to prove
>> the effect is real.
>>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

No, he just removed his equipment after the test was done. The photo was
taken much after the test was done. He likely stuff instead of buying,
which is much cheaper. He won'

2016-08-19 11:25 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> Okay. So, do you think Rossi removed the ventilation equipment and
> replaced it with an old, broken fan hanging from the ceiling? Why was he in
> such a hurry to cover up his method of removing waste heat? Why would he
> want to cover that up at all? I suppose he would want to show it, to prove
> the effect is real.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

One more thing. The container and the room seem to be not connected. On the
last page, notice the lack of tubes and a sign of infiltration just bellow
a empty tube.

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

It is surely disassembled facility. The hole is closed and the fans are
off. If Rossi were a scammer, he'd at least put some fake tubes going to
that hole. He did that before, in the 2011 test.

2016-08-18 22:37 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> Look at the photos in Exhibit 26. The ceiling was above the test area and
> the reactor. They did not have to enter the room to see the vent and fan.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

So, IH was allowed to enter the room during the test? This must be fantasy,
then.

2016-08-18 21:51 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>:

>
> I think it was during the test.
>
-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

That  company was opened with the objective of testing the device. Was the
picture taken before or after the test was made?

2016-08-18 16:06 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> Your calculations prove there was no heat release of 1 MW, or anything
> close to that. Look at the photo of the vent and fan in Exhibit 26. You see
> that the fan is inoperable, and even if it were working, it is much smaller
> than the one Fletcher estimated is needed.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Or IH's!

2016-08-17 15:23 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene :

>  Rossi’s attorney arises
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Yes, that's a problem. So much that IH issued a patent with one of their
people.

2016-08-17 12:09 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :

>
> How in the right mind IH could offer to find a customer if the plant
> didn't work?
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

You have to check the calculations Allan Fletcher and I did.

2016-08-17 11:43 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
>
> It is not big enough for 1 MW, or even 100 kW.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

There's a vent on google maps. And, IH not wanting a test? That's
characterizing them as too much of imbeciles, which I don't believe.

2016-08-17 11:12 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>  As you see from the photos and other evidence, there are no vents or
> coolers. There were also no employees and no activity, no deliveries and no
> noise.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Yes, let's wait for the judgment. Though I think JM was a company only made
to test the product, since IH would not offer one to Rossi test. So, I
don't think they are working anymore.

2016-08-17 10:51 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> Exactly. Suppose Bass is a real person. J.M. can have him testify that
> will prove I.H. is wrong. Or suppose I.H. made up the whole story. J.M. can
> still easily win by bringing in the real person in charge of production and
> other employees, and also by showing business records of invoices, taxes
> paid, product shipments, and by having real customers testify that they
> paid for the product. It is easy to prove you have an actual operating
> factory.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

This is what the lawyers are being paid off. To make filthy rich people
look like Little Red Riding Hood and Rossi, the Wolf.

Regarding the emails, are you sure it's all in there? Were the servers
containing the emails apprehended?

2016-08-17 10:17 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :
 IH was too naive and they didnt do enough due diligence
It easy to see how each lie supports the other, how everything seems to fit
together when you have one single explanatory theory

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Either not obvious to me or you are biased against Rossy and are seeing
things.

2016-08-17 2:15 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

>  Perhaps they're not obvious to you.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

And you are pretty sassy. The most relevant parts, the physical ones, I
addressed already.

2016-08-17 2:09 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

> The amended Answer is 64 pages, not including exhibits.  You haven't
> addressed all of it.  You haven't addressed a fraction of it.  Now you
> really are arguing for the sake of arguing. :)
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

I did it already. Look  for it.


2016-08-17 2:01 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

> In order to make the case you want to make, you'll need to address each
> and every point in the Answer. :)
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

*posted in several occasions

2016-08-17 1:53 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>:

> I don't think they have a good legal case. Their arguments, as I posted
> severak, do not hold well at all at to (at least my) scrutiny. So, they are
> like hanging to the tip of their fingers to fall to an abyss.
>
>   They already have a good legal case; why risk it unnecessarily?
>>
>>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

I don't think they have a good legal case. Their arguments, as I posted
severak, do not hold well at all at to (at least my) scrutiny. So, they are
like hanging to the tip of their fingers to fall to an abyss.

  They already have a good legal case; why risk it unnecessarily?
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Both of them. There is an assumption that Rossi is scaming, but not the
contrary. And your suggestion, it's like "my son would never rob/kill, he
was so good".

2016-08-17 1:43 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

>
>> Is your thought that it is a credible suggestion that IH entered in a
>> falsified business card, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Yes, because there are many politicians that are just like this.

2016-08-17 1:39 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

> Do you disagree?
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Entering with a suit against IH would also be bad for Rossi, from the
beginning, with so much holes and faults in their conduct. So, what I am
claiming it is that if Rossi is not in his right mind, why not IH people?

2016-08-17 0:32 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker :

>  It would be a horrible legal miscalculation,
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

There is doubt about the authenticity of the engineer by Planet IH, so I
will push further, there is proof that is a card offered by JM. The card
can be nothing more than a falsification. Is there any testimonies if
anyone from JM offered the card, at least? Or that it was printed by anyone
from JM or requested by it?

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

[Daniel Rocha]

You people should care. This is more spectacular than cold fusion. There
are a lot of odd behavior to be expected at non linear physics. This is not
the case.

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

So, there's A Planet IH.

2016-08-16 20:46 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
> I.H. says, and I trust them.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

How do you know that?

2016-08-16 18:09 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> In any case, Mr. Bass does not exist
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Yeah, I think it's normal. Chemical plants are pretty much generic. It's
like using  stock photos on ads.

2016-08-16 18:03 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

>
>>  Do you think it is normal to give someone a business card with a stock
>> photo of a chemical plant in another country; a plant you have nothing to
>> do with?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Just a coincidence. There is no association between market segments.

2016-08-16 15:29 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :

> But purposefully misleading.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

Why not?

2016-08-16 15:14 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :

> It happened randomly.
>

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

[Daniel Rocha]

I don't think so. This is just a random picture.

2016-08-16 14:45 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi :

> So comical.
> Even the business card is misleading.
>