iPad:access mail attachments
I created a document in Pages and exported it as aWord document to a colleague for appraisal. He said he had sent it back with comments, the comments being linked to the appropriate point of insertion in the text. I received his response by email and took the email using my iPad 2 (iOS 5.1.1; Pages 1.7.1). I double clicked on the document image in his email and it opened in what I assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that the document was opened in Pages. No changes were visible !! I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked. Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking. Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the recommended changes? Advice appreciated. Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPad:access mail attachments
Hi Merv, On your iPad If you do not want the attachment to open in Quick Look, just tap and hold your finger on the attachment. A pop-up menu will appear with a number of button options. Tapping on ‘Quick Look’ will open the file in the standard viewer. Tap on ‘Open In “app name” to open the attachment in a pre-selected other app. Tapping on ‘Open In…’ will show you a new menu with buttons. Each button has an apps icon and name next to it. Tap on a button to open the attachment in the required app. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 17/02/2013, at 8:24 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: I created a document in Pages and exported it as aWord document to a colleague for appraisal. He said he had sent it back with comments, the comments being linked to the appropriate point of insertion in the text. I received his response by email and took the email using my iPad 2 (iOS 5.1.1; Pages 1.7.1). I double clicked on the document image in his email and it opened in what I assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that the document was opened in Pages. No changes were visible !! I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked. Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking. Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the recommended changes? Advice appreciated. Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130217/a91acecf/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iPad:access mail attachments
Hi Ronni Worked a treat. Now opened all sorts of possibilities with tracking of changes being available in the latest iPad version of Pages and the ability to export as a Word document with a high level of confidence in compatibility. Thank you. Merv On 17/02/13 8:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Merv, On your iPad If you do not want the attachment to open in Quick Look, just tap and hold your finger on the attachment. A pop-up menu will appear with a number of button options. Tapping on ‘Quick Look’ will open the file in the standard viewer. Tap on ‘Open In “app name” to open the attachment in a pre-selected other app. Tapping on ‘Open In…’ will show you a new menu with buttons. Each button has an apps icon and name next to it. Tap on a button to open the attachment in the required app. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 17/02/2013, at 8:24 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: I created a document in Pages and exported it as aWord document to a colleague for appraisal. He said he had sent it back with comments, the comments being linked to the appropriate point of insertion in the text. I received his response by email and took the email using my iPad 2 (iOS 5.1.1; Pages 1.7.1). I double clicked on the document image in his email and it opened in what I assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that the document was opened in Pages. No changes were visible !! I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked. Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking. Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the recommended changes? Advice appreciated. Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130217/a91acecf/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mail attachments
Now that was interesting on my birthday. Was something I wanted to ask as well. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 03/02/2013, at 1:03 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: Hi Tim, Thanks for your help on the Mailing list we appreciate it. And like you I get frustrated when people don't reply back to the list. Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads. But under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. But this is only Attachments from Incoming Messages, Stuart wants to know how to delete attachments from Outgoing (Sent) Messages. Stuart could either do what I suggest below to set up a Rule to delete attachments from Sent Messages in all his Accounts Sent Mailboxes. To Bulk Remove Attachments from Sent Messages: 1. Open Sent Mailbox 2. Go to View Sort By - Attachments - Descending 3. Scroll to the last message that has attachments (Paper clip) 4. Select the last message and Shift-Click on the first message (to select all the sent messages that have attachments) 5. Go to 'Message' Remove Attachments Otherwise set up a Rule to preform such an action. I have not got time at present to give instructions how to setup this rule. If I find some time perhaps I will. = Where Attachments Live and How to Delete Them When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of the attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of the attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are buried deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/). If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message Remove Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the message and also deletes the separate attachment file. However, Mail also stores yet another copy of a downloaded attachment—in its original format—in a separate folder (~/Library/ Mail Downloads) if you open the attachment from within Mail (for example, by clicking the attachment icon or using Quick Look). Removing attachments from a message doesn’t delete them from this folder! Deleting an entire message does—but only after you quit Mail. You can choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads folder with the 'Remove Unedited Downloads' pop-up menu on the General preference pane. Choose Never to retain the files indefinitely, or When Mail Quits to delete them when you quit Mail. = Tip: After you save an attachment, you may want to remove it from the message (that is, unless you plan to delete the message anyway). To do so, choose Message Remove Attachments. == Migrating Mail from Lion to Mountain Lion leaves behind a folder containing previous attachments. Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads, but under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. During the upgrade, the folder contents are copied from the old location to the new, so the old location can be deleted to save some space. Cheers, Ronni On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Stuart, At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the following locations (depending on what version you're running): Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG about these being deleted each time you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right. If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work??? Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not, I'll get back to what I was doing. Not complaining mind you. I like helping people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without return. Tim On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stuart, It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions. I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library. Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please
Mail attachments
When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library. Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130203/33923539/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mail attachments
Hi Stuart, It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions. I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library. Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130203/33923539/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mail attachments
Stuart, At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the following locations (depending on what version you're running): Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG about these being deleted each time you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right. If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work??? Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not, I'll get back to what I was doing. Not complaining mind you. I like helping people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without return. Tim On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stuart, It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions. I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library. Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130203/33923539/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mail attachments
Hi Tim, Thanks for your help on the Mailing list we appreciate it. And like you I get frustrated when people don't reply back to the list. Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads. But under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. But this is only Attachments from Incoming Messages, Stuart wants to know how to delete attachments from Outgoing (Sent) Messages. Stuart could either do what I suggest below to set up a Rule to delete attachments from Sent Messages in all his Accounts Sent Mailboxes. To Bulk Remove Attachments from Sent Messages: 1. Open Sent Mailbox 2. Go to View Sort By - Attachments - Descending 3. Scroll to the last message that has attachments (Paper clip) 4. Select the last message and Shift-Click on the first message (to select all the sent messages that have attachments) 5. Go to 'Message' Remove Attachments Otherwise set up a Rule to preform such an action. I have not got time at present to give instructions how to setup this rule. If I find some time perhaps I will. = Where Attachments Live and How to Delete Them When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of the attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of the attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are buried deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/). If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message Remove Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the message and also deletes the separate attachment file. However, Mail also stores yet another copy of a downloaded attachment—in its original format—in a separate folder (~/Library/ Mail Downloads) if you open the attachment from within Mail (for example, by clicking the attachment icon or using Quick Look). Removing attachments from a message doesn’t delete them from this folder! Deleting an entire message does—but only after you quit Mail. You can choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads folder with the 'Remove Unedited Downloads' pop-up menu on the General preference pane. Choose Never to retain the files indefinitely, or When Mail Quits to delete them when you quit Mail. = Tip: After you save an attachment, you may want to remove it from the message (that is, unless you plan to delete the message anyway). To do so, choose Message Remove Attachments. == Migrating Mail from Lion to Mountain Lion leaves behind a folder containing previous attachments. Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads, but under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. During the upgrade, the folder contents are copied from the old location to the new, so the old location can be deleted to save some space. Cheers, Ronni On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Stuart, At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the following locations (depending on what version you're running): Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG about these being deleted each time you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right. If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work??? Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not, I'll get back to what I was doing. Not complaining mind you. I like helping people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without return. Tim On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stuart, It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions. I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library. Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130203/874f2c39/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml
Saving Mail attachments
I'm using OS 10.7.4 and Mail. Saving attachments to emails I receive and which I open in Preview frustrates me - If I select Save As, nothing seems to happen. But if I select Export, I can then select the folder that I want to save the document in. What mindset ) (or way of thinking) would think that export means Save to the folder of your choice on your own computer? There is no logical connection that I can think of between saving and sending off somewhere by way of international trade (which is what export means to me). Has Apple started to hire Microsoft programmers to work on Mail? Regards, Michael Hawkins. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Saving Mail attachments
Hi Michael, On 20/08/2012, at 7:07 AM, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: I'm using OS 10.7.4 and Mail. Saving attachments to emails I receive and which I open in Preview frustrates me - If I select Save As, nothing seems to happen. But if I select Export, I can then select the folder that I want to save the document in. I'm not understanding your problem. Are you referring to saving attachments that you receive IN emails to a folder of your choice? Click on the 'Save' button in the email in the resulting window select the folder you wish to save the attachment to. Or 'Control-Click' on the image in your message you receive a few other choices: Open Attachment, Open with, Quick look Attachment, Save Attachment, Save to Downloads Folder, View in place, Copy Image. Or you can drag the attachment out of the email into a folder of your choice. Or Click (and release) the 'Save button' in the header of the message and the attachment flies into the Downloads folder instantly. Mail gives you lots of ways to save attachments. What mindset ) (or way of thinking) would think that export means Save to the folder of your choice on your own computer? There is no logical connection that I can think of between saving and sending off somewhere by way of international trade (which is what export means to me). When a document is opened Preview.app, you can go File Move To - and select the folder you wish to move the file to. You don't have to 'Export' the file. Export gives you the opportunity to export in a different format or use a Quartz filter if you wish to. Has Apple started to hire Microsoft programmers to work on Mail? Oh Michael... you really have to be joking now :-)) Cheers, Ronni Regards, Michael Hawkins. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Lion apple mail attachments missing
Macbook Pro 2.53 Intel Core2Duo Lion 10.7.4 Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in Aug2011 around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution. My problem: Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there should be an attachment! Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly download the attachment. It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur across email accounts. I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders within mail. There seems to be an increasing incidence of this. Online Apple support forums indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without successful solutions. Apple seem very quiet. Any suggestions? Mike Anderson mand...@me.com Paid up Wamug member - though not sure of current number? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Lion apple mail attachments missing
Hi Mike, Not all attachments will show in the body of an email. Is there a 'Save' button showing in the header of the email? if you hover over a particular attachment, you can get more details. Depending on several variables, including the message format, the type(s) of attachment, and your preference settings, the attachments may also appear in the body of your message—either as icons or, for certain graphics formats, as inline graphics. You mention you are seeing an icon ... is that in the body of the message? Hover your pointer over an attachment icon in the body of the message for more information, including the full filename and its downloaded status. Control-click a single attachment for a contextual menu of options. To view a supported graphic in the body of the message, choose View in Place. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.7.4 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 08/06/2012, at 11:28 AM, Michael Anderson wrote: Macbook Pro 2.53 Intel Core2Duo Lion 10.7.4 Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in Aug2011 around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution. My problem: Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there should be an attachment! Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly download the attachment. It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur across email accounts. I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders within mail. There seems to be an increasing incidence of this. Online Apple support forums indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without successful solutions. Apple seem very quiet. Any suggestions? Mike Anderson mand...@me.com Paid up Wamug member - though not sure of current number? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Mail attachments to PC
Hi all I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im not sure what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt? Can someone please advise me on this? Kindest regards Chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail attachments to PC
Attachment Tamer will fix that one too Severin Crisp On 05/04/2011, at 4:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi all I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im not sure what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt? Can someone please advise me on this? Kindest regards Chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail attachments to PC
Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds: Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow incoming zip files at all. If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so that you send a two-page document to the recipient. Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying cause. Cheers, Steven On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi all I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im not sure what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt? Can someone please advise me on this? Kindest regards Chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail attachments to PC
I have exactly the same issue. I zip my files and send. Then ask them to email me back to check they have them. It's only an issue with Jpgs. I think it just standard for Microsoft programs to imbed all RGB jpgs. Don't think there is any other workarounds. I'd also be grateful to know other ways. Regards Chris Griffiths On 05/04/2011, at 7:21 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds: Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow incoming zip files at all. If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so that you send a two-page document to the recipient. Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying cause. Cheers, Steven On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi all I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im not sure what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt? Can someone please advise me on this? Kindest regards Chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail attachments from external drive
Hi Peter, Where do I start ? Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at its maximum speed. In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule. Or for connecting a USB shared Printer. Also USB drives attached to the TC tend to spin down after about 1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning. How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive? Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing - Enable File Sharing Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc that came with TC). I think I remember you have a Dual-Band 802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network. When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook. I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let you know. Cheers, Ronni On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I had browsed to. I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach. I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function. Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive attached to the USB port of the TC. I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially. Cheers Peter… -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
RE: Mail attachments from external drive
Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network. I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part works very reliably. I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally (an Epson wireless ready printer) set up wirelessly between TC and printer (no cables between the two) and this too works really well. File sharing for the external drive is set to Enabled and the Summary tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was installed from the disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009. I am set to 802.11n 5GHz only as well. I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the external drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on the external drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to do an Attach to a new email within Mail. When it was 'wide awake', the Attach command worked fine for Mail. I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way. Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two externals, would that facilitate my obscure requirements? I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my situation. Regards Peter... Kind Regards, Peter Crisp, Project Controls Hub Lead, Perth Associate, BE Mech HATCH *Phone + 61 8 9428 5437 *Fax + 61 8 9428 *Mob 0402 001 019 ?E-mail pcr...@hatch.com.au Website http://www.hatch.com.au/ From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive Hi Peter, Where do I start ? Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at its maximum speed. In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule. Or for connecting a USB shared Printer. Also USB drives attached to the TC tend to spin down after about 1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning. How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive? Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing - Enable File Sharing Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc that came with TC). I think I remember you have a Dual-Band 802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network. When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook. I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let you know. Cheers, Ronni On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected Attach the one with the paper clip, and then I got the colourful beach ball. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I had browsed to. I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach. I had to finally crash the Macbook - a very undesirable and uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn't know what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach
Re: Mail attachments from external drive
had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two externals, would that facilitate my obscure requirements? I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my situation. Regards Peter… From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive Hi Peter, Where do I start ? Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at its maximum speed. In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule. Or for connecting a USB shared Printer. Also USB drives attached to the TC tend to spin down after about 1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning. How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive? Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing - Enable File Sharing Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc that came with TC). I think I remember you have a Dual-Band 802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network. When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook. I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let you know. Cheers, Ronni On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I had browsed to. I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach. I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function. Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive attached to the USB port of the TC. I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially. Cheers Peter… -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
RE: Mail attachments from external drive
Ok, thanks Ronni for the significant time you have put into this for me. I don't want to 'milk' you and I do really appreciate your comprehensive and very meaningful articulation of issues and best resolution approach. I will check the Airport utility version per instructions here. Once again invaluable knowledge from you. Now that I am aware of the limitations of the USB connected drive, I can manage the accessing of the content on it more reservedly. My very sincere thanks. Regards Peter From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 9:18 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive Hi Peter, I said the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. You can use it for other purposes, but be aware of its limitations with it being connected by USB to Time Capsule. I strongly recommend, if your Data is important to you, and you are serious about backing up and protecting your Data on your computers, that you don't rely solely on Time Machine backups. I wrote an article in September 2009 titled MY BACKUP STRATEGY. In it I explain that a good Backup Strategy consists of three parts, and what my Backup Strategy is. If you think it would be helpful to you, email me off-list and I will give you my website Username password, so you can download it. File sharing for the external drive is set to Enabled and the Summary tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was installed from the disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009. The Version 7.5 refers to your Time Capsule, not Airport Utility.app. Open Airport Utility, under Airport Utility in the Menu bar 'About Airport Utility' will give you the version, it should be v5.5 (550.29). The Time Machine Schedule Problem: Time Machine saves hourly backups for 24 hours, daily backups for a month, and weekly backups until your disk is full. On the surface, that seems reasonable, but if you look at the details, there's a catch. Time Machine makes a new backup every hour that your computer is on and awake. With each run, Time Machine also deletes the hourly backup from 25 hours ago, unless it was the first backup of that particular day. Thus you always have hourly backups for the last 24 hours, as well as a single hourly backup (i.e., from just the last hour of the day) for each of the past 30 days. After a month, Time Machine deletes the oldest of the daily backups, but it preserves the first daily backup from each week as long as there's disk space available. Now picture this: at 8:30 PM on Monday you create an important file. When Time Machine runs next (at, say, 9:00 PM) it backs up that file-so far so good. Now, at 9:30 PM, you delete the file, either intentionally or otherwise. No problem: it's still in your backup. Of course, none of the hourly backups for the next 24 hours includes your file, because it had already been deleted, so the only copy Time Machine has is in that first hourly backup. At 10:00 PM on Tuesday, Time Machine erases that backup from 25 hours ago-the only one, from 9:00 on Monday, that contained your important file. Because that file wasn't in the last hourly backup of that day, it won't be there tomorrow if you suddenly realise you need it, even though Time Machine backed it up yesterday! So there are ways that files can fall through the cracks. Time Machine backs them up, sure, but then, because of the way it deletes old backups, it may remove your essential file from the backup before you need it. (And that's true, by the way, when deleting old daily and weekly backups too.) Plus, if a file exists for less than an hour, and therefore isn't around for a single backup, Time Machine won't help at all. The lesson? First, supplementing your Time Machine backups is a good idea. And second, get in the habit of hanging on to files for at least 24 hours before you delete them! Cheers, Ronni On 11/03/2010, at 9:23 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network. I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part works very reliably. I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally (an Epson wireless ready printer) set up wirelessly between TC and printer (no cables between the two) and this too works really well. File sharing for the external
Re: Mail attachments from external drive
only as well. I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the external drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on the external drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to do an Attach to a new email within Mail. When it was ‘wide awake’, the Attach command worked fine for Mail. I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way. Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two externals, would that facilitate my obscure requirements? I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my situation. Regards Peter… From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive Hi Peter, Where do I start ? Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at its maximum speed. In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule. Or for connecting a USB shared Printer. Also USB drives attached to the TC tend to spin down after about 1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning. How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive? Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing - Enable File Sharing Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc that came with TC). I think I remember you have a Dual-Band 802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network. When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook. I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let you know. Cheers, Ronni On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach ball”. The Finder look- alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I had browsed to. I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach. I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/ dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function. Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive attached to the USB port of the TC. I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially. Cheers Peter… -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Mail attachments from external drive
I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected Attach the one with the paper clip, and then I got the colourful beach ball. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I had browsed to. I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach. I had to finally crash the Macbook - a very undesirable and uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn't know what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function. Is the Attach command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive attached to the USB port of the TC. I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially. Cheers Peter... * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, arrive late or contain viruses. By communicating with us via e-mail, you accept such risks. When addressed to our clients, any information, drawings, opinions or advice (collectively, information) contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing agreements. Where no such agreement exists, the recipient shall neither rely upon nor disclose to others, such information without our written consent. Unless otherwise agreed, we do not assume any liability with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the information set out in this e-mail. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and destroy and delete the message from your computer. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail attachments on the Mac
Sorry if this is too late to help but I have been using a mail plugin called Mail Attachments Iconizer 1.3 fromhttp://lokisw.com which forces any attachments to an icon at the end of the msg and stops them appearing opened in the text . Works well for me Allen On 14/09/2007, at 4:20 PM, David Nicholas wrote: Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail attachments. My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than as a named attachment at the end. Doc files however display as standard attachments at the end. I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. David Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail attachments on mac - no inline images
When you add an image, try right-clicking or control-clicking the image and select view as icon. On 16/09/2007, at 9:02 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail attachments on the Mac
On 14/09/2007, at 4:20 PM, David Nicholas wrote: Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail attachments. My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than as a named attachment at the end. Doc files however display as standard attachments at the end. I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. David Nicholas Should we assume that the recipient who is in trouble is using a PC ? Mac can just click on the image and drag sideways to the desktop ! Also , reading the Mail help information it says that pictures WILL appear in the body of the message ! Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail attachments on the Mac
Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail attachments. My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than as a named attachment at the end. Doc files however display as standard attachments at the end. I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. David Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail attachments on the Mac
your pc recipient should do the following: in outlook beneath the subject field there should be save attachements, click on it save them to the desktop (for easy finding) then check the names, it's possible that the names have no file extension so rename them to x.jpg (if the pix is a jpeg) eg picture to picture.jpg, then windows is recognizing the format the file renaming can be done during the save attachement dialog as well that's it cheers James On 14/09/2007, at 16:20, David Nicholas wrote: Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail attachments. My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than as a named attachment at the end. Doc files however display as standard attachments at the end. I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. David Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How about just clicking on the box marked send Windows friendly attachments which appears at the bottom of the dialog box you get when you click on the attachments icon (paperclip) in OSX mail. Regards, BRett On 14-Sep-07, at 4:20 PM, David Nicholas wrote: Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail attachments. My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than as a named attachment at the end. Doc files however display as standard attachments at the end. I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently there is a choice between inline and attachment. My default is currently Content-Disposition: inline; Does anybody know how I can change this to default to Content- Disposition: attachment; It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and sent as an attached file. But it displays in the body of the message. David Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Where does Mail store incoming attachments? With attachments that I am interested in I Save them and file them. Similarly I file a very large amount of the incoming mail. Older emails that have attachments, when reopened, still have the attachments available, because I have set the unedited downloads to be kept. My Mail folder has a folder called Mail Downloads showing 0K contents. Are they in there as invisible files? There must be a huge whack of attachments somewhere, but where are they? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
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Hi Severin, I would have to check to see if I am still correct, but I think I previously pointed out that they are stored as part of the original messages. This is because Apple stores e-mail in its original Internet format (which by definition has the attachments embedded within the body of the e-mail).
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Look in your - home directory / library / mail downloads Regards, Eugene On 07/04/2006, at 9:39 AM, Severin Crisp wrote: Where does Mail store incoming attachments? With attachments that I am interested in I Save them and file them. Similarly I file a very large amount of the incoming mail. Older emails that have attachments, when reopened, still have the attachments available, because I have set the unedited downloads to be kept. My Mail folder has a folder called Mail Downloads showing 0K contents. Are they in there as invisible files? There must be a huge whack of attachments somewhere, but where are they? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all, I have a problem with attachments that are sent to me via email. If more than one file is attached then they arrive at my end combined as a win.dat file??? The problem seems to be intermittent and to date only involves files created by Microsoft Office on a windoze PC. I am running system 10.3.9 and using entourage 10.1.6 my ISP is iinet. Any thoughts or ideas most welcome. Ken...
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On 16 Mar 2006, at 4:54 PM, Ken Woods wrote: Hi all, I have a problem with attachments that are sent to me via email. If more than one file is attached then they arrive at my end combined as a win.dat file??? The problem seems to be intermittent and to date only involves files created by Microsoft Office on a windoze PC. I am running system 10.3.9 and using entourage 10.1.6 my ISP is iinet. Any thoughts or ideas most welcome. Ken... You have 10.3.9 which means you also have Apple's Mail . If you set your entourage to leave your email on the server for a day or two , you could also fire up Mail as required to download those emails with the doze attachments and see how it handles the attachments . If it does the same thing it's probably reasonable to think the problem is at the sending PC . Bob
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TNEF's enough. ttp://www.joshjacob.com/macdev/tnef/ From the website: TNEF's Enough TNEF's Enough allows Macs to read and extract files from Microsoft TNEF stream files. The files are usually received by SMTP based e-mail programs from Microsoft Exchange and Microsoft Outlook users. The SMTP based e-mail program will usually receive either a MIME attachment named winmail.dat or a MIME attachment with the type application/ms-tnef. The file is a rich text (or MAPI) message that is sent from Outlook to Exchange. When Exchange sends the message to an outside server it writes the MAPI message as a MIME attachment. The unfortunate side effect of this plan is if the Outlook user has someone in their address book as a person who can receive Rich Text then the user will receive the TNEF file whether the user uses Outlook or not. TNEF's Enough is a freeware application. Download the version that best suits your Mac. On 16/3/06 5:01 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Mar 2006, at 4:54 PM, Ken Woods wrote: Hi all, I have a problem with attachments that are sent to me via email. If more than one file is attached then they arrive at my end combined as a win.dat file??? The problem seems to be intermittent and to date only involves files created by Microsoft Office on a windoze PC. I am running system 10.3.9 and using entourage 10.1.6 my ISP is iinet. Any thoughts or ideas most welcome. Ken... You have 10.3.9 which means you also have Apple's Mail . If you set your entourage to leave your email on the server for a day or two , you could also fire up Mail as required to download those emails with the doze attachments and see how it handles the attachments . If it does the same thing it's probably reasonable to think the problem is at the sending PC . Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all, I have a problem with attachments that are sent to me via email. If more than one file is attached then they arrive at my end combined as a win.dat file??? You can open winmail.dat files using TNEF's enough: http://www.joshjacob.com/macdev/tnef/ Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
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Where does Mail store attachments? If I Save an attachment I can put it where I wish, if it is a picture it goes onto another hard drive. Subsequently the attached picture still seems to show up in the email when it is reopened even a long time later. In the Mail Preferences setting I have set to Delete unedited downloads when the email is deleted so presumably there must be a huge cache of downloads kept secretly somewhere by Mail. A search of all the obvious places has not revealed this. Can anyone enlighten me on this, please? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
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On 05/01/2006, at 12:17 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: Where does Mail store attachments? If I Save an attachment I can put it where I wish, if it is a picture it goes onto another hard drive. Subsequently the attached picture still seems to show up in the email when it is reopened even a long time later. In the Mail Preferences setting I have set to Delete unedited downloads when the email is deleted so presumably there must be a huge cache of downloads kept secretly somewhere by Mail. A search of all the obvious places Did that include User/Library/Mail/Pop user The size of that box tells a story ! Removing attachments from those individual messages from there is ? Bob has not revealed this. Can anyone enlighten me on this, please? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Mail attachments
On 05/01/2006, at 12:17 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: Where does Mail store attachments? If I Save an attachment I can put it where I wish, if it is a picture it goes onto another hard drive. Subsequently the attached picture still seems to show up in the email when it is reopened even a long time later. In the Mail Preferences setting I have set to Delete unedited downloads when the email is deleted so presumably there must be a huge cache of downloads kept secretly somewhere by Mail. A search of all the obvious places has not revealed this. Can anyone enlighten me on this, please? Severin Crisp Hi Severin, Generally speaking, the messages are stored as .emix files, in a Mail folder located: Macintosh HD:Users:username:Library:Mail Message enclosures or attachments are stored in a separate Mail Downloads folder at the same level. The Mail Downloads folder is not the primary location of attachments to emails -- attachments reside in the mailbox (including Inbox), thus within the Messages folder of the mailbox, and generally are only seen in the downloads folder if opened by another application other than mail. The preference for how long a copy stays in the Downloads folder can be set in Mail Preferences/General. Cheers, Ronni
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Hi Severin, On 05/01/06, Severin Crisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Mail store attachments? Are you using Panther or Tiger, and are you using an IMAP or POP account? There is no such thing as an e-mail attachment -- it's just a convenient illusion. With POP messages, Apple Mail tends to store mail messages in their original, encoded format (i.e., in the exact format in which they arrived). This means that the attachment illusion has not yet occurred. That is, the attachment is actually an integrated part of the whole mail message. When you delete a message, the attachment will therefore disappear also. With an IMAP account, you mail server can provide the ability to download MIME-type attachments separately. In this caes, Apple Mail stores the partial contents separately (i.e., one partial file for the encoded message body and another partial file for the encoded attachment). In either case, there are two locations to look in (although this will depend on your version of Mail and whether you are using POP or IMAP0. One location is Home Library Mail Downloads (where decoded attachments are stored as standard double-clickable files) and also Home Library Mail [acct folder] Message [...emlxparts] (where the unencoded versions are stored). I can't remember how Delete unedited downloads works. You may find the decoded attachments have been deleted from Mail Downloads but still exist in original encoded form inside Mail [acct folder] Message. James
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I don't seem to have an 'Attach' button to put on the toolbar in Mail. I can use the 'Attach File' from the File Menu, but the missing button is annoying. Anyone else with this problem? Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel Fax 08 9367 7037 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley]
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Tony, if you're using Mail in 10.4.x, are you trying to attach the Attach button in Mail's main window? You need to bring up a new message window, then select Customize Toolbar... from the View menu to be able to select the Attach button. If you're already doing this and its not available, then something has gone astray and you may need to reinstall Mail. Cheers, Mike On 16/06/2005, at 8:35 AM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I don't seem to have an 'Attach' button to put on the toolbar in Mail. I can use the 'Attach File' from the File Menu, but the missing button is annoying. Anyone else with this problem? Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel Fax 08 9367 7037 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
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On 02/11/2004, at 3:38 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: There seems to be little control over the way Apple Mail handles attachments. Firstly, the Windows Friendly Attachments box is unchecked by default but I would like it the checked by default as I am always forgetting to set it and for some recipients, notably with .doc attachments, this spells disaster. Is there a way of changing this? Apparently not. A brief perusal of com.apple.mail.plist does not show a preference setting for this (but it's amazing what you CAN change...). Maybe a visit to MacOSXHints might turn something up. With JPEG images they are always inserted into the email, which is fine but often I would prefer them to go as attached icons like PDF or .doc or other uninsertable files. Is there a way around this? Maybe there is a hidden preferences panel that I have not found yet? The trick here is to Control- or Right-click on the attached image. You will see an option to View as Icon in the contextual menu. This toggles between View as Icon and View in Place depending on the current choice. Of course, with many files the option is not available, since View as Icon is the only choice. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 02/11/2004, at 3:38 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: There seems to be little control over the way Apple Mail handles attachments. Firstly, the Windows Friendly Attachments box is unchecked by default but I would like it the checked by default as I am always forgetting to set it and for some recipients, notably with .doc attachments, this spells disaster. Is there a way of changing this? Apparently not. A brief perusal of com.apple.mail.plist does not show a preference setting for this (but it's amazing what you CAN change...). Maybe a visit to MacOSXHints might turn something up. With JPEG images they are always inserted into the email, which is fine but often I would prefer them to go as attached icons like PDF or .doc or other uninsertable files. Is there a way around this? Maybe there is a hidden preferences panel that I have not found yet? The trick here is to Control- or Right-click on the attached image. You will see an option to View as Icon in the contextual menu. This toggles between View as Icon and View in Place depending on the current choice. Of course, with many files the option is not available, since View as Icon is the only choice. I hate to say it but I found Mail to be one of the worst bits of Apple SW I've used because of it's handling of attachments. Most embarrassing, especially when sending attachments as part of a job application... I never did notice any difference between Windows Friendly Attachments and not. At first I just used webmail to send them but this defeats the purpose of using a client in the first place so I now use Thunderbird. The only drawback is now I cant sent mail with a keystroke;) Cheers Paul - who has pre-ordered Port Holes in his coffin.
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There seems to be little control over the way Apple Mail handles attachments. Firstly, the Windows Friendly Attachments box is unchecked by default but I would like it the checked by default as I am always forgetting to set it and for some recipients, notably with .doc attachments, this spells disaster. Is there a way of changing this? With JPEG images they are always inserted into the email, which is fine but often I would prefer them to go as attached icons like PDF or .doc or other uninsertable files. Is there a way around this? Maybe there is a hidden preferences panel that I have not found yet? TIA Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
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On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 09:39 AM, Bob wrote: I must admit that the greatest improvement had happened since Telstra replaced my cable modem after the first one I had was wiped out by a lightning strike. My upload problem is the same whether I'm using Eudora, Mail or Entourage. To successfully upload I have to boot into a separate OS 9.2.2 partition and send from there. I'm using the Nortel cable modem supplied by Telstra. Bob I can't remember the brand of the modem I had first - it was probably Nortel, since it seemed to be a standard Telstra issue - but the replacement is a Motorola SB4200 SURFboard Cable Modem. I sent an 800+K attachment just yesterday in under 30 seconds. That would have taken ten minutes or more when I was first using cable. -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Some time ago I raised the problem of not being able to send e-mail attachments using Eudora 5.1.1 under OSX 10.1.5 via Telstra cable connection. The only replies I received inferred that I didn't know how to attach a document etc to a e-mail etc. For those that are interested, the problem is caused by (guess who) Telstra. The following is the latest news on http://whirlpool.net.au/ I had this problem for ages when I first took out my cable account, but I have been assuming the problem had been fixed because it seems to have gone away. Uploads with attachments have been nice and quick for some time now. I'm using Mail though, not Eurdora. I must admit that the greatest improvement had happened since Telstra replaced my cable modem after the first one I had was wiped out by a lightning strike. My upload problem is the same whether I'm using Eudora, Mail or Entourage. To successfully upload I have to boot into a separate OS 9.2.2 partition and send from there. I'm using the Nortel cable modem supplied by Telstra. Bob
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On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, at 08:31 PM, Bob wrote: Some time ago I raised the problem of not being able to send e-mail attachments using Eudora 5.1.1 under OSX 10.1.5 via Telstra cable connection. The only replies I received inferred that I didn't know how to attach a document etc to a e-mail etc. For those that are interested, the problem is caused by (guess who) Telstra. The following is the latest news on http://whirlpool.net.au/ I had this problem for ages when I first took out my cable account, but I have been assuming the problem had been fixed because it seems to have gone away. Uploads with attachments have been nice and quick for some time now. I'm using Mail though, not Eurdora. I must admit that the greatest improvement had happened since Telstra replaced my cable modem after the first one I had was wiped out by a lightning strike. -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi all, Some time ago I raised the problem of not being able to send e-mail attachments using Eudora 5.1.1 under OSX 10.1.5 via Telstra cable connection. The only replies I received inferred that I didn't know how to attach a document etc to a e-mail etc. For those that are interested, the problem is caused by (guess who) Telstra. The following is the latest news on http://whirlpool.net.au/ Apple Mac users angry over Bigpond mail server problems Dan Warne | Wednesday, 4 pm Telstra has acknowledged its outgoing mail servers have problems with customers using Bigpond Cable with an Apple Mac. Apple Mac customers using Bigpond Cable (not ADSL) have been complaining for almost a year that emails with attachments upload excruciatingly slowly -- sometimes as slowly as 30KB every five minutes. Telstra has drawn a blank in trying to resolve the problem with customers. One support representative said Windows computers must be setup with dynamically adjusting MTU to fix the problem, but said I do not know how Apple config their O/S. The problem appears to be related to how Telstra's SMTP servers interact with Macintoshes, since customers who route their Macs through a PC have no problems sending mail on the PC, but still have problems sending mail on the Mac. Some customers have worked around the problem by setting up their own SMTP mail servers. Go to forum Bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]