Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wlm-global-org] Wiki Loves Monuments 2021 Office Hours - January 31

2021-01-31 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

just kind reminder: this is happening now!

Lodewijk

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:07 PM Stephen LaPorte 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The Wiki Loves Monuments international team would like to invite you to an
> office hour this weekend, on January 31 (Sunday) @ 15:00 UTC. This hour is
> open to anyone interested in Wiki Loves Monuments, including past and
> future national organizers. Please join us to discuss the plans for the
> team's 2021 grant proposal, volunteering with the international team, or
> any other topics that you would like to bring.
>
> We have seen tremendous national results from the 2020 competition, and
> there are many valuable lessons from this past year that we can take into
> the years ahead.
>
> Details:
>
> January 31, @ 15:00 UTC (https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1612105200)
> On Google Hangouts: https://meet.google.com/ggk-nfbb-oyz
> Agenda/Notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WLM-2021-1
>
> If you are not able to attend Sunday, do not fear: we plan to host a
> follow-up office hour (with the same agenda) on February 3. More details to
> come.
>
> I hope that you are able to join us, and I look forward to the discussion.
>
> Yours truly,
> Stephen (User:Slaporte)
> on behalf of Wiki Loves Monuments International
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] important: countries missing from official submissions

2021-01-14 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Hrvoje,

please follow the official submission process as outlined (although I can't
promise they are still accepted, as you're more than 10 days overdue).

Thank you.

Lodewijk

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:18 PM Hrvoje Došen  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Here is the official submission from Croatia:
> 1  File:The Legacy Heart.jpgPhotographer: [[User:Mladen
> Bozickovic|Mladen Bozickovic]]
> 2  File: Katedrala sv. Jakova 001.jpg   Photographer:
> [[User:Dieglop|Dieglop]]
> 3  File: Cetina - Crkva Sv. Spasa.jpg   Photographer: [[User:Stjepko
> Krehula|Stjepko Krehula]]
> 4  File: Vestibule And Bell Tower Inside Old Town Of Split.jpg
> Photographer: [[User:RajashreeTalukdar|RajashreeTalukdar]]
> 5  File: Hvar Stari Grad 4 SMierzwa.jpgPhotographer: [[User:Sebastian
> Mierzwa|Sebastian Mierzwa]]
> 6  File: Tvrđava Lovrjenac.jpg Photographer:
> [[User:RajashreeTalukdar|RajashreeTalukdar]]
> 7  File: Trogira 002.jpg Photographer: [[User:Dieglop|Dieglop]]
> 8  File: Arheološki muzej 2 - Vis.jpgPhotographer: [[User:Velebit
> 1993.|Velebit 1993.]]
> 9  File: Embracing the Sky.jpg   Photographer: [[User:Mladen
> Bozickovic|Mladen Bozickovic]]
> 10  File: Novigrad na Dobri most 2020-08-30b.jpg   Photographer:
> [[User:Stjepko Krehula|Stjepko Krehula]]
>
> Best wishes!
>
> pon, 11. sij 2021. u 15:53 Erina Mukuta  napisao
> je:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Please note, the following countries still seem to be missing from the
>> official submissions but have posted their finalists on commons.
>> Armenia, Azerbaijan, Benin, Canada, Croatia, Finland , Germany, Georgia,
>> Greece, jordon , lebanon, malta, Palestine, Philippines, Poland, Portugal,
>> syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Uganda.
>>
>>
>> The following countries still seem to be missing from the official
>> submissionsand have also not posted their finalists on commons.
>> Albania, Australia, Bangladesh ,Bolivia ,Denmark ,Ghana ,Guinea, Kosovo,
>> Nigeria
>>
>>
>> We have received:
>> Algeria, Austria, Aruba, Brazil, Egypt, France, India, Iran, Ireland,
>> isreal, Italy, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritania, Moroco, Nepal, Norway, Peru,
>> Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Suomi, Spain, Sweden, UK, Ukraine,
>> United States.
>>
>> The detailed instructions to follow are here:
>> In order to minimize the possibility for mistakes and improve reliability
>> of this process, I would like to ask you to fill a form with your nominees.
>> This will generate an email to both a jury member, and an organizer. Both
>> will be asked to confirm the correctness of this overview by responding to
>> that email.
>>
>> The link will be sent to the organizers ON REQUEST. Please have the main
>> organizer email Erina (me) for this.
>>
>> If you did submit, but see your country as missing, please contact Erina
>> to confirm (cc).
>>
>> Thank you for bearing with us, and I hope to see many more beautiful
>> pictures soon!
>>
>> Erina
>> (on behalf of the international team)
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Fwd: [Wlm-nl] Google Landmarks v2

2019-05-03 Thread Lodewijk
I think Edo meant to send this to this list instead.

Thanks for sharing Edo, sounds exciting that WLM photos are being reused
like this!

Lodewijk

-- Forwarded message -
From: Edo de Roo 
Date: Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:54 AM
Subject: [Wlm-nl] Google Landmarks v2
To: Besloten Wiki Loves Monuments Nederland lijst <
wlm...@lists.wmnederland.nl>, <
wikilovesmonuments-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>


https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/05/announcing-google-landmarks-v2-improved.html


Wiki Loves Monuments is being used, reused ...
And if we use the new tagging on Commons, the AI can even be more easily be
trained ;-)

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Final reminder to niminate

2018-11-03 Thread Lodewijk
Please send a list of file names and url's and user names and include one
jury member in cc. That way we minimize chances for copy errors.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 03:44 Konstantinos Stampoulis  Hi,
>
> nominations from Greece are here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018_winners#Greece
> We found an obstacle after we publicised them but we solved them, so the
> list stands as it is.
>
> Konstantinos Stampoulis
> ger...@geraki.gr
> http://www.geraki.gr
>
> 
> Συνεισφέρετε στην Βικιπαίδεια. https://el.wikipedia.org
> ---
> Οι παραπάνω απόψεις είναι προσωπικές και δεν εκφράζουν παρά μόνο εμένα. Το
> μήνυμα θεωρείται εμπιστευτικό μόνο εάν το έχω ζητήσει ρητά, διαφορετικά
> μπορείτε να το χρησιμοποιήσετε σε οποιαδήποτε δημόσια συζήτηση. Δεν έχω
> τίποτε να κρύψω. :-)
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Final reminder to niminate

2018-10-29 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Rebecca,

the image displays fine on my computer. Can you describe a bit more what
you're experiencing?

Thanks,
Lodewijk

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:35 PM Rebecca O'Neill 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> In Ireland we have just completed the judging. However, our first place
> image won't display on Commons but you can see it on Montage and download
> it. Does anyone know what is going wrong, before I update the Ireland
> section on the winners page:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:County_Sligo_-_Metal_Man_Beacon_-_.jpeg
>
> Thanks!
> Rebecca
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 09:47, Lily 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reminder. I confirm that WLM-IR is on track and we will
>> send you the nominations before the deadline is reached.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 08:04 Erina Mukuta  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear national coordinators, jury coordinators,
>>> This is to remind you about the upcoming dead line to submit nominees
>>> for the  international Wiki Loves Monuments competition . So far i have
>>> received nominations from the following countries;
>>> 1.Morocco
>>> 2. UK
>>> 3. Croatia
>>> 4. India
>>> 5. Romania
>>> 6. Austria
>>>
>>> We're looking forward to your timely submissions
>>>
>>> With warm regards,
>>>
>>> Erina Mukuta
>>>  International Jury coordinator
>>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Fwd: Reminder how to nominate

2018-10-02 Thread Lodewijk
Forwarding this to the announce-mailing list.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Erina Mukuta 
Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:11 AM
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reminder how to nominate
To: 
Cc: 



Dear national coordinators, jury coordinators,

Thank you for an amazing job in the past weeks and months in organizing
what seems to have been yet again an amazing competition in more than 56
countries! It's great to see all the beautiful images that have been
submitted.

As you know, the international Wiki Loves Monuments competition is based on
a federalized model: there's a national competition in each country, with a
national organizing team, a national jury and national winners. The
national jury determines up to (maximum) 10 images that will be submitted
to the international finale.

These ten images should be submitted via email to the international jury
coordinator before the deadline: erinamuk...@gmail.com. Unless you have
agreed a different deadline with Lily (in cc), this deadline is 31 October,
23:59 UTC. But if you like me, please send them at least a few days before
that time. Submissions after this deadline are not guaranteed to be
included in the finale. When submitting your finalists, please take these
instructions into account:
* Submit no more than ten images per (national) competition. It is OK to
submit less images, for example if you don't find enough images of high
quality.
* Submit the images to: erinamuk...@gmail.com  , and include in the CC at
least one (additional) jury member besides yourself. Please also include
 in the cc.
* If the results are still not public (if you plan to announce them later
publicly), please add the planned announcement date. Please note that we
will announce the international winners in December, and will not wait for
national announcements.
* Submit for each image: URL, File name on Wikimedia Commons and Author
username
* Check basic information about the images. It is NOT possible to replace
finalists after the deadline!
** that the author has activated their email function on Wikimedia Commons.
If we cannot email the user there, they may automatically forfeit any
prize. You can help them by posting a message on their talk page, or
tracking them down through social media.
** that the monument on the image is identified (preferably also described
in English)
** that the image is freely licensed
*If you want to use the jury tool, please sign up for it(
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Montage#Montage_and_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018
 )

If you want, there are opportunities to share your national winners also on
the international blog. Please get in touch with either of us about this -
more information about this soon.

Thanks a lot for your cooperation. After all nominees have been received,
this will result in a pool of some 350-430 images for the international
jury to consider. The international jury is described on this page. The
jury will first rate all images with 1-5 stars, from which a top-40/60 will
be considered. Then, the jurors will have the opportunity to remove images
from the selection, which they consider unfit. Finally, they are asked to
rank their top-25 images, and share their reasoning. We will create a jury
report based on this information. We expect to announce the results in the
first two weeks of December (depending on the swiftness of jury report
creation and media opportunities).

We're looking forward to the judging process!

With warm regards,

Erina Mukuta
 International Jury coordinator
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] National landing pages: Make sure you have a great one

2018-08-05 Thread Lodewijk
Hi everyone,

A good landing page is important to keep your participants involved, and
make sure they actually submit their images.

Last year and in the past few months, I had several discussions with some
of you about what a landing page for a country could look like. This is why
I took some effort to put together what I think is a combination of some
good examples. I created both an explanation
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation/Landing_page?venotify=created#Main_elements>
and an example
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation/Example_landing_page#Where_are_the_monuments%3F>.
I tried to keep it as simple as possible for Wikimedians with little
experience (as little as possible templates etc).

Martin has kindly offered to help make this design responsive, but depends
here on the WMF implementing some software changes, which are scheduled for
the next weeks. In the mean time, I invite you to look at the page, give
feedback or make improvements. I hope this will be a helpful addition to
our documentation shelf
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation>.
The example can definitely be much improved!

You can also already start adapting the text of the page to your country's
situation. You will be able to copy and paste that text into the new
design. The content should roughly be the same.

If you have any questions, please do reach out. We're a bit understaffed
this year, but we should be able to help out where we can :)

Best,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wikimania - lets meet!

2018-07-19 Thread Lodewijk
Also... I'm bringing the remaining Wiki Loves Monuments tshirts to the
workshop. First come, first serve! We especially have a few women shirts
available.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:28 PM Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> Wikimania is here and many of the local teams will be represented.
>
> It would be great to use the opportunity to learn as much as possible from
> each other! Let's meet up with each other :)
>
> If you're experiencing problems or hurdles at your national competition or
> want to organize one and don't know how, feel free to find anyone from the
> international team that is here: myself (effeietsanders) , pawel (yarl) or
> andre (lokal profil).
>
> Like last year we have a Wiki loves monuments workshop session, saturday
> between 1130 and 1230 for everyone that wants to learn or share about
> organizing wlm.
>
> These is also a meetup round table about the long term question of how to
> make wiki loves thrive in Africa. We'll want to learn from you all the
> bottle necks, lessons and approaches.
>
> Love to hear from anyone! Enjoy Wikimania.
>
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Grants: deadline on 1 August!

2018-07-18 Thread Lodewijk
Yes! I can confirm it would be especially a great idea to talk with
Woubzena during Wikimania if you have:
- questions whether your idea for events fall within the scope
- want help with drafting

Don't be scared - she's a great and helpful person :)

If you want to know more about what other teams did in the past, or want
other feedback, feel free to drop by me too. I'll be most of the day in the
Hackathon room today.
Lodewijk

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM Woubzena Jifar 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm the program officer for rapid grants and I'm here to answer your
> questions. I am also attending Wikimania and plan to be at the Wiki Loves
> Monuments Workshop session on Saturday 11:30am - 12:30pm. Please feel free
> to ask me your questions there or if you see me around the conference. And
> of course you can also send me an email if you're not at Wikimania but
> please be patient as I will be delayed with my response because of
> Wikimania.
>
> Best regards,
> Woubzena
>
> Woubzena Jifar
> Program Officer
> Rapid Grants
> Wikimedia Foundation <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home>
> User: WJifar (WMF)
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Lodewijk 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you are organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in a country without existing
>> funding structures for Wiki Loves Monuments, you have the possibility to
>> request a 'Rapid Grant' at the Wikimedia Foundation. This is a low barrier
>> program that should make it easy to request smaller grants with minimal
>> effort. You can find more information about the program here:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid
>>
>> The requirements and documentation may seem a little overwhelming, but
>> it's really not that impossible if you have a clear idea what you need the
>> money for. Writing a proposal hopefully takes between 30 and 60 minutes,
>> and the report about the same amount of time. You can use these funds for
>> example to fund prizes for your national winners, to organize a prize
>> ceremony, to organize a photo workshop and/or photo walk, etc. This is all
>> optional, but a great opportunity to get more people involved in your group!
>>
>> However, there is a deadline here. To maximize the chance that you
>> actually get your funds before the start of the competition on 1 September,
>> you must make your application *BEFORE 1 AUGUST*. That still leaves you
>> plenty of time, but it does mean you should ideally start now. Please note
>> that we did reach an agreement with the grants team that Wiki Loves
>> Monuments grants can, by exception, also submit between 16 and 31 July. If
>> you submit earlier, it can also be approved earlier.
>>
>> If you need any help writing a grant request, you can ask me or someone
>> from the grants team for support. If you want to meet at Wikimania to
>> discuss or draft together, that is totally possible!
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Wikimania - lets meet!

2018-07-17 Thread Lodewijk
Hey everyone,
Wikimania is here and many of the local teams will be represented.

It would be great to use the opportunity to learn as much as possible from
each other! Let's meet up with each other :)

If you're experiencing problems or hurdles at your national competition or
want to organize one and don't know how, feel free to find anyone from the
international team that is here: myself (effeietsanders) , pawel (yarl) or
andre (lokal profil).

Like last year we have a Wiki loves monuments workshop session, saturday
between 1130 and 1230 for everyone that wants to learn or share about
organizing wlm.

These is also a meetup round table about the long term question of how to
make wiki loves thrive in Africa. We'll want to learn from you all the
bottle necks, lessons and approaches.

Love to hear from anyone! Enjoy Wikimania.

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Some help needed: design a good default landing page

2018-07-12 Thread Lodewijk
Hey everyone,

I made a start here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_monuments/Documentation/Example_landing_page

mainly to indicate what content I think it should have, and how prominent
it should be. Help needed to make it responsive and prettier :) And who can
help writing some text that is generic and easy to adapt from country to
country?


I'm trying to use as few template nestings as possible - because that makes
it harder to copy it.


Best,

Lodewijk




On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 9:59 PM Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> One of the hard things that national teams run into year after year, is
> setting up a good landing page. In the past we have offered wordpress
> templates to help teams with a good default option.
>
> However, we want to slowly move towards having an excellent default option
> on Wikimedia Commons. Who would be willing to help design that and set it
> up in an easy to edit way? I'd love to brainstorm a little more with one or
> two others about this, but I was thinking some basic requirements should be:
>
> - setting up the landing page has to be possible without extensive
> knowledge of wiki markup or templates
> - it has to work in both RTL and LTR (or we create two versions, fine with
> me too)
> - it has to support multiple languages
> - it needs to have a super clear workflow for participants: point out the
> basics of the competitions, where to find the monuments and how to upload.
> - be low maintenance and easy to set up, with possibility to expand as a
> country has a more complex setup/requirements.
>
> Who would be willing and able to help out? Please join the conversation
> here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198028
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lodewijk
>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Making Wiki Loves Monuments thrive in Africa

2018-07-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

If you're interested in helping Wiki Loves Monuments be more of a success
in Africa by sharing or learning, and if you're participating in Wikimania
this year, I would suggest that you consider joining the 'Making Wiki Loves
Monuments thrive in Africa' meetup on Saturday during Wikimania, from
18:00-19:00.

See for more information here:
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Effeietsanders/Make_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_thrive_across_Africa

You can also sign up there, so that we know what and who to expect :)

If you can't be there, you can still leave some suggestions or thoughts on
that page to consider.

Best,
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Grants: deadline on 1 August!

2018-07-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

If you are organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in a country without existing
funding structures for Wiki Loves Monuments, you have the possibility to
request a 'Rapid Grant' at the Wikimedia Foundation. This is a low barrier
program that should make it easy to request smaller grants with minimal
effort. You can find more information about the program here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid

The requirements and documentation may seem a little overwhelming, but it's
really not that impossible if you have a clear idea what you need the money
for. Writing a proposal hopefully takes between 30 and 60 minutes, and the
report about the same amount of time. You can use these funds for example
to fund prizes for your national winners, to organize a prize ceremony, to
organize a photo workshop and/or photo walk, etc. This is all optional, but
a great opportunity to get more people involved in your group!

However, there is a deadline here. To maximize the chance that you actually
get your funds before the start of the competition on 1 September, you must
make your application *BEFORE 1 AUGUST*. That still leaves you plenty of
time, but it does mean you should ideally start now. Please note that we
did reach an agreement with the grants team that Wiki Loves Monuments
grants can, by exception, also submit between 16 and 31 July. If you submit
earlier, it can also be approved earlier.

If you need any help writing a grant request, you can ask me or someone
from the grants team for support. If you want to meet at Wikimania to
discuss or draft together, that is totally possible!

Best,
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Some help needed: design a good default landing page

2018-06-26 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Yan,

we're currently redesigning our own webpage, which we'll publish as well of
course. But I'm not sure that will be on schedule for you to reuse.

I'm not sure which you're referring to as the 2012 version, but feel free
to reach out off-list and I can see if we have a more recent version
available.

Lodewijk

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM Ynhockey  wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> Sorry to hijack your thread, but I remember only one WordPress template
> being offered, and that was something like 2012. Are there newer ones? We
> were actually looking to improve the site this year, but doing our own
> redesign might take a while—and WordPress is a pretty good option actually.
> Not saying that there shouldn't be a Commons option as well of course. The
> more the better!
>
> —Yan.
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:00 AM Lodewijk 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the hard things that national teams run into year after year, is
>> setting up a good landing page. In the past we have offered wordpress
>> templates to help teams with a good default option.
>>
>> However, we want to slowly move towards having an excellent default
>> option on Wikimedia Commons. Who would be willing to help design that and
>> set it up in an easy to edit way? I'd love to brainstorm a little more with
>> one or two others about this, but I was thinking some basic requirements
>> should be:
>>
>> - setting up the landing page has to be possible without extensive
>> knowledge of wiki markup or templates
>> - it has to work in both RTL and LTR (or we create two versions, fine
>> with me too)
>> - it has to support multiple languages
>> - it needs to have a super clear workflow for participants: point out the
>> basics of the competitions, where to find the monuments and how to upload.
>> - be low maintenance and easy to set up, with possibility to expand as a
>> country has a more complex setup/requirements.
>>
>> Who would be willing and able to help out? Please join the conversation
>> here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198028
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Some help needed: design a good default landing page

2018-06-23 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

One of the hard things that national teams run into year after year, is
setting up a good landing page. In the past we have offered wordpress
templates to help teams with a good default option.

However, we want to slowly move towards having an excellent default option
on Wikimedia Commons. Who would be willing to help design that and set it
up in an easy to edit way? I'd love to brainstorm a little more with one or
two others about this, but I was thinking some basic requirements should be:

- setting up the landing page has to be possible without extensive
knowledge of wiki markup or templates
- it has to work in both RTL and LTR (or we create two versions, fine with
me too)
- it has to support multiple languages
- it needs to have a super clear workflow for participants: point out the
basics of the competitions, where to find the monuments and how to upload.
- be low maintenance and easy to set up, with possibility to expand as a
country has a more complex setup/requirements.

Who would be willing and able to help out? Please join the conversation
here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198028

Thanks!

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 - basic info and sign up!

2018-06-23 Thread Lodewijk
Oops, indeed! Thanks for the correction!

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> thanks for the info. It is very exciting to know we are starting. You
> probably wanted to give this link
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018/Organizers
>
> (your mail contained the 2017 link).
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Lodewijk 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> It's that exciting time of the year again, Wiki Loves Monuments is
>> getting started! I know several of you have already started, but if you
>> haven't: this is a great time to do so!
>>
>> The idea behind Wiki Loves Monuments is to invite the general audience in
>> your country to photograph built heritage and share it with the world
>> through Wikimedia Commons. We do that through a federated competition,
>> which means that the national teams are key to our success: they organize
>> the national competitions. At the end of the process, the national juries
>> can nominate up to 10 photos to the international jury. The international
>> jury will then consider those photos once again, and select the
>> international winners. We will announce the prizes for the international
>> winners later.
>>
>> If you are a group of Wikimedians, a chapter or user group that is
>> interested in participating (again) this year, then please sign up! You can
>> find a list of countries that has already done so here:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Participating_countries
>>
>> If you want to know how to organize, please reach out to one of the members
>> of the international team
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018/Organizers#International_team>.
>> You can also leave a message on the help desk
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Help_desk> 
>> or
>> send an email to the public mailing list
>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments>. We do
>> have a fair amount of documentation
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation>
>> available, but some of it may be outdated (we appreciate any help in
>> improving it!).
>>
>> Like last year, we've also added a tab called 'Organizers' in Wiki Loves
>> Monuments landing page on Commons:
>>
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Organizers
>>
>> We'd like to encourage you to add your name and those of your team
>> members with a short description to the list. This information is helpful
>> for those from outside of the
>> Movement or the project who end up on that page and want to learn more
>> about your national competition, it also provides an opportunity for us to
>> get to know each other via this one page. :) Every year, there are more
>> than 150 national organizers that make Wiki Loves Monuments happen and it
>> would be great to know more about all of these amazing people. :)
>>
>> We will also have a presence at Wikimania this year, and organize a
>> meetup. Please keep an eye out!
>>
>> If you like to stay informed, make sure you're a member of our discussion
>> mailing list
>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments> (
>> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org ). The most important
>> announcements are also sent to our announcement mailing list
>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wlm-announce>: if you
>> don't have much capacity for emails, please at least make sure multiple
>> people in your team are subscribed to that!
>>
>> If you have any questions, please reach out! We're here to help each
>> other. Lets have a great competition again :)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lodewijk
>> on behalf of the international team
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 - basic info and sign up!

2018-06-23 Thread Lodewijk
Hi everyone,

It's that exciting time of the year again, Wiki Loves Monuments is getting
started! I know several of you have already started, but if you haven't:
this is a great time to do so!

The idea behind Wiki Loves Monuments is to invite the general audience in
your country to photograph built heritage and share it with the world
through Wikimedia Commons. We do that through a federated competition,
which means that the national teams are key to our success: they organize
the national competitions. At the end of the process, the national juries
can nominate up to 10 photos to the international jury. The international
jury will then consider those photos once again, and select the
international winners. We will announce the prizes for the international
winners later.

If you are a group of Wikimedians, a chapter or user group that is
interested in participating (again) this year, then please sign up! You can
find a list of countries that has already done so here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Participating_countries

If you want to know how to organize, please reach out to one of the members
of the international team
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2018/Organizers#International_team>.
You can also leave a message on the help desk
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Help_desk> or
send an email to the public mailing list
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments>. We do
have a fair amount of documentation
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation>
available, but some of it may be outdated (we appreciate any help in
improving it!).

Like last year, we've also added a tab called 'Organizers' in Wiki Loves
Monuments landing page on Commons:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Organizers

We'd like to encourage you to add your name and those of your team members
with a short description to the list. This information is helpful for those
from outside of the
Movement or the project who end up on that page and want to learn more
about your national competition, it also provides an opportunity for us to
get to know each other via this one page. :) Every year, there are more
than 150 national organizers that make Wiki Loves Monuments happen and it
would be great to know more about all of these amazing people. :)

We will also have a presence at Wikimania this year, and organize a meetup.
Please keep an eye out!

If you like to stay informed, make sure you're a member of our discussion
mailing list
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments> (
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org ). The most important announcements
are also sent to our announcement mailing list
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wlm-announce>: if you don't
have much capacity for emails, please at least make sure multiple people in
your team are subscribed to that!

If you have any questions, please reach out! We're here to help each other.
Lets have a great competition again :)

Best,

Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Reflecting on Wiki Loves Monuments - we need your input!

2018-06-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

In 2019, Wiki Loves Monuments will be organized for the 10th time. As we
will be celebrating this achievement, we would like to use this opportunity
to reflect on the years behind us and learn how we can improve Wiki Loves
Monuments.

We have created a short survey to ask you to help us learn about the areas
that we can do better within our mission: to freely document and raise
awareness about the monuments, increase contributions to Wikimedia
projects, and bolster local Wikimedia communities.
I would like to invite you all to help us think about this by filling out
this 4 minute survey:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdG0Dx9CBo613D5XdQ-nCzCe7P_F2k0niSXTBtO6rbOR6Ps3Q/viewform?usp=sf_link


We still want to do all of this through an annual, federated, global,
low-barrier photo competition, please keep that in mind as the frame we'd
like to operate under. While your thoughts and recommendations about any
aspect of Wiki Loves Monuments are welcome, we will be paying extra
attention to recommendations that can help the contest become more global:
to help us empower more people from more diverse demographics to join the
project, as organizers, jurors, participants, and beyond.

Thank you for your time in advance.

On behalf of the international team,

Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] SVG map - some help needed

2018-06-16 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

as usual, I'd like to keep a visualization of our participating countries.
See here for 2017
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Participating_Countries_WLM_2017.svg>.
Unfortunately, that map is a bit outdated (in particular South Sudan is not
separate yet).

Could anyone help me set up a new version of this map with an updated world
map? Ideally with the same style (white countries with grey borders &
oceans, including antarctica).

Thanks in advance!

Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Wiki Loves Monuments: important information about rapid grants this year. Time sensitive.

2018-05-07 Thread Lodewijk
Dear national organizers,

I'd like to make all national organizers aware of the altered deadlines and
process for rapid grants. Unless exceptions are made for Wiki Loves
Monuments, please note the following:

- *Timeline*: the submission timeline for rapid grants is very limited this
year. You can *only submit before 11 May *(4 days from now) *or between 1
and 15 July*! Do not plan to submit after 1 August, there is no guarantee
that it will be processed in time.
- *Expect delays*: Given the altered timeline, I expect a high number of
applications in the limited timeframe. Please assume delays in review and
approval, although the WMF undoubtly does their best to process requests
timely.
- *Amount*: Rapid grants have a *maximum of USD 2000*, as usual. Starting 1
July, the WMF introduces a *minimum amount of USD 500*. This means that if
you're planning to submit a rapid grant below that amount, you have to
submit it before 11 May, or come up with ways to spend more money.
- *Submit a grant request & more information*: Submitting a grant request
is supposed to be fairly easy through this process. You can find more
information about submitting a grant request here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid
- *Get help?* If you're new to our movement, you may be a little
overwhelmed by some of the process (it's designed to be as easy as possible
- but is optimized for experienced Wikimedians). Please feel free to ask
for help on our public mailing list wikilovesmonuments AT
lists.wikimedia.org or by emailing me or another member of the
international team. Please don't feel shy about reaching out for help!

Below, you'll find the official message by the grant officer Woubzena Jifar
- above I tried to summarize what I see as likely implications for Wiki
Loves Monuments.

Warm regards,

Lodewijk

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:30 AM, Woubzena Jifar <wji...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> Hope this email finds you well. We are sending this message to select
> community mailing lists and all previous recipients of a Wikimedia
> Foundation Rapid Grant.
>
> We have an announcement regarding the closure of the Rapid Grants [1]
> program between May 14 - June 30, 2018. This year we've received a lot of
> interest in the program and this quarter we've almost doubled the amount of
> grants offered to the community compared to last year's quarter. You can
> look at our spending analysis
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/Grants_spending_analysis>
>  [2] for
> reference. Unfortunately, this means we've expended our funds for this
> fiscal year. The last date we will be receiving an application for a rapid
> grant before the closure will be *Friday, May 11, 2018*.
>
> We encourage *Wiki Loves Earth* participants to apply for a Rapid Grant
> by May 11, 2018 to receive support for their project.
>
> The grant program will be open again to receive grant requests starting *July
> 1, 2018*. At this point we will be implementing the following changes:
>
> 1. There will be a minimum of *$500 USD* for grant requests
> 2. Applications will only be accepted between the *1st - 15th of each
> month*. This is to help with our current workflow and to allow us to be
> more responsive to your requests.
>
> If you have any questions, please email us at rapidgra...@wikimedia.org.
>
> Best regards,
> Woubzena
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/Gran
> ts_spending_analysis
>
>
> Woubzena Jifar
> Program Officer
> Rapid Grants
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> User: WJifar (WMF)
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Some lessons and insights from WikiIndaba with regards to Wiki Loves Monuments

2018-04-23 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all!

I just published some of my findings from the very encouraging
conversations I had during WikiIndaba. As you probably know, Wiki Loves
Monuments has been especially successful in some parts of the world. The
international team expressed the desire to explore the opportunities and
challenges that Wiki Loves Monuments faces in (sub-Saharan) Africa, and how
we could further develop the concept to make it both more accessible and
more impactful.

For this purpose, I attended WikiIndaba, the Wikimedia Conference for
organizers of Wikimedia activities across Africa. This is the best group to
learn how we can improve our concept and methods to suit the needs of
African organizers. A session to introduce WLM and explore the challenges
and opportunities with national organizers was accepted, but was last
minute merged with the session dedicated to the future on Wiki Loves
Africa.

Most of the people I talked with either organized Wiki Loves Monuments in
the past, or expressed an interest to do so in the future, if there would
be no obstacles. The conversations focused mostly on challenges and how to
address those, and I skipped for these purposes the positive feedback we
received (an effective way to build community capacity, a nice way to get
people involved in the community, returning new contributors, pride of the
result achieved, a good entrance to start conversations with partners,
etc).

In this report, I'll aggregate with a focus on future continuation. None of
the points is generalizable for the countries - Africa is an incredibly
diverse continent, and it would not be helpful to assume that all problems
described are equally (if at all) relevant to all countries. I tried to
cluster the information somewhat, and provide context where possible.

This is intended as input for a conversation, which would be a next step.
Your thoughts on these issues, and especially other challenges you think
may be missing from this overview, would be most welcome!

Lodewijk



Finance/Grant: Organizers were challenged by the grant practices. One
grantee described how they were granted funds, but due to the timing of the
approval process (near the end of September), they were only able to
execute it in a limited fashion. This reduced their effectiveness
significantly. Approval speed (and execution speed) was reported in general
as suboptimal. Some reported that grant committees would add 'suggestions'
to change their activity. Organizers felt pressured to follow them, even
though they didn't feel it helped the cause. User Groups can also only
request 3 grants at the same time. This limits the larger UG's in their
activities, and can mean that they have to skip WLM because of it, or
request it in an untimely manner. A smoother and guaranteed pipeline would
be helpful.
A follow-up conversation with WMF Rapid Grants was scheduled in the weeks
after Wiki Indaba, and resulted in a number of action items for future
collaboration.

Collaborations: Many wanted to increase local collaborations, but several
countries reported that they did not get the kind of appreciation as you'd
hope due to not being incorportated. They feel that more international
support (letters of support, introductions, etc) could be beneficial. This
is even more relevant for sponsorships.

International bodies/networks: Especially when contacting the government,
some support from UNESCO-like organizations could be helpful. We should
look into how to build those relationships in a consistent manner.

Quality: National organizers felt that the quality of their images was not
able to compete with European images. That is discouraging to photographers
and organizers alike.

Transportation: People need to travel to monuments to photograph them.
People need to travel to ceremonies to accept their award. Not everyone can
afford that. Several countries described that they organized tours to bring
photographers to the monuments, with the expectation that they then upload
the images. Movement is not a free resource, and people need to be at the
monument to photograph it. This did bring several challenges though, in
order to perfect the pipeline (how do they actually upload the images).

Definitions: We may be dealing with different concepts of what constitutes
'heritage'. Some are because of practical concerns (copyright, official
status), some are more conceptual. The concept is all too often tied to the
colonial history.

Diverse African Heritage: Freedom of Panorama is a blocker. A significant
number of African countries faces a limitation of heritage that can be
photographed due to copyright restrictions. Organizing Wiki Loves Monuments
can both be a motivation for us why we want to reduce those restrictions,
but it can also be a PR-tool in persuading policy makers. Copyright
restrictions lead to a distorted depiction of African heritage.
Also the monument lists are often restricted to more or less the colonial
era. Diversifying the lists is essential

[Wiki Loves Monuments] 3 dimensional documentation

2018-02-21 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

As some of you may have noticed, Wikimedia is now supporting the upload of
3D models of objects. See this WMF blog post
<https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/02/20/three-dimensional-models/>.

I'm just curious: are there any national competitions planning to focus
even slightly on 3D submissions in the coming year(s)? Do we know if it's
even feasible for such large buildings?

Best,
Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 international grant request - endorsements welcome

2018-02-08 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

A little while ago, I shared a draft of our grant request with you. The
final version is now available and submitted:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_international_team/2018_coordination

As you can see, we plan to shift our focus this year to some long term
goals, and I hope for your participation in that path. For now, please
consider endorsing this grant request - it is one of the measures that the
grants team uses to indicate community support for projects like this.

I hope to be working with many of you again in the coming months and years!

Warmly,

Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM 2018 grant request - input welcome

2018-01-28 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

The Wiki Loves Monuments international team is working on our grant request
for the 2018 international efforts. Given the challenges, we have set a few
focus areas, with special attention to our infrastructure. We hope to make
it easier for national organizers to attend the competition.

This also means making some choices, and those are reflected in our draft.
The draft is still somewhat rough, but I wanted to publish this already, to
give you an opportunity to provide input. To streamline the conversation, I
kindly request that you do this through the talkpage as much as possible,
or email the international team list if you want to bring up something
sensitive. If you don't like something, please try to suggest how it can be
improved.

Given time constraints, I also would request that you provide input earlier
rather than later. We will need to agree on a final version in the team,
and there are several of us that are having multiple colliding deadlines
and other time sinks :)

The deadline for this proposal is 31 January (timezone unclear, so assuming
UTC) - please provide your input at the latest on 30 January UTC.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_international_team/2018_coordination


Thank you! Looking forward to your thoughts.

Warmly,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Montage fot WLM 2017

2017-09-28 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Denise,

the 'detailed info' you refer to, is probably this email from yesterday:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2017-
September/008681.html - Lily sent that out already, but in a new thread.

Hope that answers your questions with regards to timeline etc :)

Lodewijk

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> sorry for the typo in your name. I meant Denise.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Denise Jansen <jan...@wikimedia.nl>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Lily,
> >>
> >> I didn't receive any detailed info about Montage, is that correct?
> >
> > If by detailed info about Montage you mean tool documentation, it's
> > at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Montage . If you mean
> > link to the tool and information about your campaign that I will set
> > up on Saturday, that's correct. You have not received that
> > information. You will receive it by 2017-10-02 19:00 UTC.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lily
> >
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Denise Jansen
> >> Projectleider
> >> Wikimedia Nederland
> >>
> >> tel. 06  2952 0069
> >> (ma, di, do)
> >>
> >> Postadres:  Bezoekadres:
> >> Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3
> >> 3500 AD  Utrecht Utrecht
> >>
> >> Wikimedia Nederland organiseert regelmatig bijeenkomsten, u bent
> daarbij van
> >> harte welkom. Kijk voor meer informatie in onze agenda.
> >>
> >> 2017-09-26 17:31 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Cristian,
> >>>
> >>> The service is up as of now (I just tested).
> >>>
> >>> Regarding timelines: We will send out a more detailed email by
> >>> tomorrow but generally: yes, Montage is on track and you should be
> >>> able to start your jury process on October 1 and 2. montage-beta, the
> >>> system is used last year is there for sure, we are working hard to
> >>> bring the latest release of Montage to life by October 1.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Lily
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM, Cristian Cenci
> >>> <cristian.ce...@wikimedia.it> wrote:
> >>> > Hi everybody,
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm writing to ask for news about Montage.
> >>> > Saturday is not so far, and I want to start organizing my juries
> >>> > (national
> >>> > and locals) for this edition.
> >>> >
> >>> > Are we fast ready to start and to create new campaigns on Montage?
> For
> >>> > now
> >>> > is "503 Service Unavailable".
> >>> > I'm pretty sure I didn't lose any communication, but sorry if I had!
> >>> >
> >>> > Cristian
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Cristian Cenci
> >>> > Wiki Loves Monuments - National coordinator in Italy
> >>> > Wikimedia Italia - Associazione per la diffusione della conoscenza
> >>> > libera
> >>> > cristian.ce...@wikimedia.it | +39 393 8005889 | www.wikimedia.it
> >>> >
> >>> > Anche nel 2017 è possibile destinare il 5x1000 a Wikimedia Italia.
> >>> > Libera la cultura! Scrivi il codice fiscale 94039910156.
> >>> >
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> >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
> >>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
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> >>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Helpdesk - help appreciated

2017-09-24 Thread Lodewijk
Hey all,

I was quite busy myself in the past week or so, and will remain busy
unfortunately. Some help by WLM veterans would be very welcome on the WLM
helpdesk! Thank you :)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Help_desk

Best,
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Short notice: cool stories

2017-09-06 Thread Lodewijk
hey all,

tonight (tomorrow morning for me - yawn!), we'll be joining a special
episode of Wikipedia Weekly <http://wikipediaweekly.org/>!

It is always nice to share a bit about what you're doing in your country,
and for the conversation it would be nice to tap into some of those
stories. I know a bunch because of talking with a lot of you - but I would
definitely appreciate a bit more sharing.

This is extremely short notice (about 7-8 hours to go), but if you have
cool stories about your country, what kind of stuff you're doing, how
you're reaching out to new users, how you're targeting the most important
monuments to you, or how you're trying to do the impossible - please share!

I can't promise we work it into the conversation - but either way you'll
bring a smile on my face. And I can promise you that such a smile is always
welcome at 04:00 in the morning :) Thanks in advance!

Looking forward to them,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] checking commons uploads for malfunctions

2017-09-06 Thread Lodewijk
OK, went through ~1/3 of that list. Quite boring :)

I found mostly users from France and Germany that uploaded images from
monumental buildings but that did not participate with WLM. Some from
Spain. May be worth the effort to ask them if they're aware of the
competition, and whether they are trying to participate. They upload
typically quite a lot of photos, and are not newcomers. That leads me to
the impression that even if they are trying to participate, they are
probably not following recommended processes.

In case a local organizer wants to follow-up:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Greifen
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Global_Fish
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Geyersberg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gerd_Eichmann
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flussar
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fischer.H
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Falk2
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fab5669
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Espirat
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Edelseider
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Codas
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chabe01
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CarlosVdeHabsburgo
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Boston9
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Borjaanimal
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Boeman3
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bananadrumr


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Thanks. I removed about 1/3 of the images based on large series, and
> created a gallery to browse through: https://commons.
> wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Effeietsanders/scratch
>
> I'll browse a bit through it tomorrow to see if anything jumps out.
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Platonides <platoni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Lodewijk
>>
>> Here is the list of the 13401 images uploaded yesterday that don't
>> include {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2017}} (and were not flagged as bot):
>>  https://archivos.wikimedia.es/wikimedia/es/wlm/non-wlm-up
>> loads_20170902.html
>>
>> For the record, there were 7332 uploads (7451 including bots) that did
>> embed {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2017}} template.
>>
>> I don't know who would volunteer to review them, but if there's
>> interest, a tool could be done to provide such lists.
>>
>> Best regards
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] Some countries on hold

2017-08-31 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

We're a few hours away from kicking off in the first countries! Very
exciting of course.

While we're aware that some countries are working hard against the
deadline, we have to work with the information available. We noticed that
some countries don't have a functional landing page yet, and that means
that they are not ready to receive thousands of people on their landing
page. We don't want to send all those people there just to get lost.

For the countries where we identify that issue, we will put their
competition 'on hold'. That means that the upload campaigns will become
active and experienced Wikipedians who know where to go, can start
uploading on September 1. However, we will not activate the banners on top
of the Wikimedia projects yet. The end of the competition will not be
extended because of this and remain the same.

Romaine is in charge of this, and will make the final determination if a
banner is ready - on behalf of the international team. We're keeping an
overview of the countries that are on hold on the talkpage of the list of
participating countries
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Participating_countries#Countries_on_hold>
.
We try to ping the coordinators, but please do check if your country is
affected in the next hours.

We encourage everyone to fix these problems as soon as possible, so that we
can go live without too much delay. You can find the requirements for the
landing pages here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2017/Landing_pages


Also if you're not affected: if you want to help these countries (if you
speak their language), please feel free to help out! That is much
appreciated.

Best,
Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] (re)Creating lists in Nepal - help appreciated

2017-08-29 Thread Lodewijk
I'm adding Nirmal, who's the Nepali contact person, to the cc.

Nirmal, can you help out?

Lodewijk

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The pages have been restored, and hopefully will make participation in WLM
> for Nepal easier. Thanks to everybody who helped.
>
> However, at the very least, sources must be added to every page. I will
> have a look later, but I am not sure I am qualified enough to add a source
> in Nepali. I will also try to write a two-line introduction for every page.
> Some data are still clearly missing (such as locality for many monuments),
> and wikification is non-existent. Once these problems are solved, we can
> make a reasonable case for moving them back to the article space.
>
> We badly need a Nepalui speaker who could help with sourcing (or a source
> in English).
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> wrote:
>
>> (update: Yaroslav is helping to restore the pages now! Yay :) But help
>> with creating proper articles is very much appreciated)
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughts, Nicolas.
>>>
>>> Right now, some help to get these pages restored and then helping to
>>> edit (add reference and introduction) & move them would be great. Not sure
>>> if that needs admins.
>>>
>>> To answer your questions:
>>> * I'm actually not sure if there's another list in Nepali. But those
>>> lists are language sensitive, so having an English list on newiki wouldn't
>>> make a lot of sense. I guess you also wouldn't appreciate those on frwiki?
>>> ;) That being said, there are some 123 languages
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Nepal> being spoken in
>>> Nepal.
>>> * The lists for Kosi have been restored before the admin realized it was
>>> 200+ pages, and decided it needed more discussion. But the good part is
>>> that you can now see what all the other lists look like. It is also an
>>> opportunity to show what they can become. An example would be the Indian
>>> list I linked, I think. But it needs some creativity.
>>> * There is a source, in Nepali :) It is linked in the list of lists (of
>>> lists) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> TLDR; What can we do? (expecially for someone like me who isn't admin
>>>> on enwp and don't really know Nepal).
>>>>
>>>> That sad:( I'm not sure what I can do. Here some remarks (not sure if
>>>> it helps) :
>>>> * why go on enwp (which is notoriously complicated, and more and more
>>>> so) and not on newp - it would seems more logical and it's probably easier
>>>> there ?
>>>> * some list have not been deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>> Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Kosi_Zone ; indeed it's empty and look
>>>> abandonned :/ I've looked to add photo and other improvement but my
>>>> knowledge of Nepal. Can someone give some pointer and example of what can
>>>> be done and how?
>>>> * as always on Wikipedia, the problem is source... Is there any
>>>> avalaible source for these lists?
>>>>
>>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>>
>>>> 2017-08-29 14:21 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately someone at
>>>>> enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some notifications here
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
>>>>> because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A requirement I at
>>>>> least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project 
>>>>> namespace
>>>>> to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, a discussion is ongoing
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.o

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] (re)Creating lists in Nepal - help appreciated

2017-08-29 Thread Lodewijk
(update: Yaroslav is helping to restore the pages now! Yay :) But help with
creating proper articles is very much appreciated)

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts, Nicolas.
>
> Right now, some help to get these pages restored and then helping to edit
> (add reference and introduction) & move them would be great. Not sure if
> that needs admins.
>
> To answer your questions:
> * I'm actually not sure if there's another list in Nepali. But those lists
> are language sensitive, so having an English list on newiki wouldn't make a
> lot of sense. I guess you also wouldn't appreciate those on frwiki? ;) That
> being said, there are some 123 languages
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Nepal> being spoken in Nepal.
> * The lists for Kosi have been restored before the admin realized it was
> 200+ pages, and decided it needed more discussion. But the good part is
> that you can now see what all the other lists look like. It is also an
> opportunity to show what they can become. An example would be the Indian
> list I linked, I think. But it needs some creativity.
> * There is a source, in Nepali :) It is linked in the list of lists (of
> lists) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> TLDR; What can we do? (expecially for someone like me who isn't admin on
>> enwp and don't really know Nepal).
>>
>> That sad:( I'm not sure what I can do. Here some remarks (not sure if it
>> helps) :
>> * why go on enwp (which is notoriously complicated, and more and more so)
>> and not on newp - it would seems more logical and it's probably easier
>> there ?
>> * some list have not been deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Kosi_Zone ; indeed it's empty and look
>> abandonned :/ I've looked to add photo and other improvement but my
>> knowledge of Nepal. Can someone give some pointer and example of what can
>> be done and how?
>> * as always on Wikipedia, the problem is source... Is there any avalaible
>> source for these lists?
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>> 2017-08-29 14:21 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately someone at
>>> enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some notifications here
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
>>> because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A requirement I at
>>> least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project namespace
>>> to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Right now, a discussion is ongoing
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal_-_drafts_now_deleted>
>>> how to resolve this on admins noticeboard, because apparently it's normal
>>> to delete 200+ pages immediately, but restoring them requires discussion :)
>>> Some helpful suggestions and actual help to turn these drafts into normal
>>> mainspace lists would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I assume it should be possible to turn these lists into encyclopedic
>>> lists, given that there's a good reference available (see the main list
>>> of lists
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>). An
>>> introduction similar to that of Indian Monuments
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monuments_of_National_Importance_in_Bihar>
>>> should also be doable.
>>>
>>> Any takers?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] (re)Creating lists in Nepal - help appreciated

2017-08-29 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for the thoughts, Nicolas.

Right now, some help to get these pages restored and then helping to edit
(add reference and introduction) & move them would be great. Not sure if
that needs admins.

To answer your questions:
* I'm actually not sure if there's another list in Nepali. But those lists
are language sensitive, so having an English list on newiki wouldn't make a
lot of sense. I guess you also wouldn't appreciate those on frwiki? ;) That
being said, there are some 123 languages
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Nepal> being spoken in Nepal.
* The lists for Kosi have been restored before the admin realized it was
200+ pages, and decided it needed more discussion. But the good part is
that you can now see what all the other lists look like. It is also an
opportunity to show what they can become. An example would be the Indian
list I linked, I think. But it needs some creativity.
* There is a source, in Nepali :) It is linked in the list of lists (of
lists) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> TLDR; What can we do? (expecially for someone like me who isn't admin on
> enwp and don't really know Nepal).
>
> That sad:( I'm not sure what I can do. Here some remarks (not sure if it
> helps) :
> * why go on enwp (which is notoriously complicated, and more and more so)
> and not on newp - it would seems more logical and it's probably easier
> there ?
> * some list have not been deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Kosi_Zone ; indeed it's empty and look
> abandonned :/ I've looked to add photo and other improvement but my
> knowledge of Nepal. Can someone give some pointer and example of what can
> be done and how?
> * as always on Wikipedia, the problem is source... Is there any avalaible
> source for these lists?
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> 2017-08-29 14:21 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately someone at
>> enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some notifications here
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
>> because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A requirement I at
>> least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project namespace
>> to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>> .
>>
>> Right now, a discussion is ongoing
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal_-_drafts_now_deleted>
>> how to resolve this on admins noticeboard, because apparently it's normal
>> to delete 200+ pages immediately, but restoring them requires discussion :)
>> Some helpful suggestions and actual help to turn these drafts into normal
>> mainspace lists would be appreciated.
>>
>> I assume it should be possible to turn these lists into encyclopedic
>> lists, given that there's a good reference available (see the main list
>> of lists <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>).
>> An introduction similar to that of Indian Monuments
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monuments_of_National_Importance_in_Bihar>
>> should also be doable.
>>
>> Any takers?
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] (re)Creating lists in Nepal - help appreciated

2017-08-29 Thread Lodewijk
Hey all,

A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately someone at
enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some notifications here
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A requirement I at
least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project namespace
to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
.

Right now, a discussion is ongoing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal_-_drafts_now_deleted>
how to resolve this on admins noticeboard, because apparently it's normal
to delete 200+ pages immediately, but restoring them requires discussion :)
Some helpful suggestions and actual help to turn these drafts into normal
mainspace lists would be appreciated.

I assume it should be possible to turn these lists into encyclopedic lists,
given that there's a good reference available (see the main list of lists
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>). An
introduction similar to that of Indian Monuments
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monuments_of_National_Importance_in_Bihar>
should also be doable.

Any takers?

Best,
Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] video from wikipedia

2017-08-13 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Johnattan,

(for a little context: this video is about the Wikimedia strategy for 2030,
and was recently released on Wikimania. Definitely do watch it, hopefully
it inspires you to participate in the process. Not directly for Wiki Loves
Monuments, but of course important for the broader Wikimedia movement)
You can find the video file also on
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Knowledge_belongs_to_all_of_us_-_2030.wikimedia.org.webm
. Here, you can also create/edit a translation. Click on 'TimedText' on top
of the page. First you select 'English' to copy the English version, then
you copy it to 'Español' and you can start translating!

Thanks for your help :)

Best,
Lodewijk

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Johnattan Rupire <jarja...@riseup.net>
wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> sorry if this is an off topic in this list.
>
> I just see the recent video from wikipedia:
> https://www.facebook.com/wikipedia/videos/10155462578903346/
>
> And I think it would be great if this video will be avalaible in with
> spanish subtitles and some others ...
>
> Can someone of you tell me, where I can ask if some people are
> translating this?
>
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 360º pictures in wlm

2017-08-12 Thread Lodewijk
Correct, and there's not going to be a change this year with that.

If you want to encourage 360 degree photos, the best way may be to prepare
a blogpost with best practices and tips from an experienced producer for
the WLM blog?

Lodewijk

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Jan Ainali <ainali@gmail.com> wrote:

> If the local jury find them good enough they are free to send them to the
> international round (in this case they didn't and I don't think it has
> happened anywhere yet).
> There was no special award for the category.
>
> /Jan Ainali
> (skickat på språng så ursäkta min fåordighet)
>
> On Aug 12, 2017 09:28, "Mārtiņš Bruņenieks" <marti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Are these eligible for international round? Do you have a special award to
> the category? We had some 360º uploads in WLE.
>
>  Mārtiņš
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Johnattan Rupire <jarja...@riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Jan!
>> This makes us very happy
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> El 11 de agosto de 2017 20:07:13 GMT-05:00, Jan Ainali <
>> ainali@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>> Yes and yes.
>>>
>>> Example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Skällviks_b
>>> orgruin_2016_i_360_01.jpg
>>>
>>> /Jan Ainali
>>> (skickat på språng så ursäkta min fåordighet)
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017 20:59, "Johnattan Rupire" <jarja...@riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi everyone!
>>>> Maybe some of you knows if it's possible to upload 360-degrees pictures
>>>> in commons? These photos can participate in wlm?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Follow up on meetup questions

2017-08-12 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks a lot, Andre! This was a question that indeed came up yesterday, and
also has come up over the past years several times.

If someone uses this extensively, I would invite you to document it a bit
(including examples what are helpful WLM-related messages etc) - I think it
would be helpful to other countries too. Please let me know if you'd be
willing to do some documentation there.

Lovely, everyone!

Best,
Lodewijk

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:42 AM, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se>
wrote:

> (This is a follow-up to some questions that were asked during hte Wiki
> Loves meetup at Wikimania)
>
> == Mass contacting participants (or a subset of participants) ==
> There are two methods I know for contacting the contributors to a
> competition:
> * MassMessage <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MassMessage> allows
> messages to be sent out to the talk pages of a list of users.
> * Massenmail
> <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technik/Skin/Benutzerskripte/massenmail/en>
> a short javascript by DerHexer to send mass messages using the "email this
> user" function. It adds a button to the sidebar Tools section which
> triggers an interface where you enter the list of users, a topic, content
> and if you want a copy.
>
> == Wikidata Migration ==
> For teams interesting in mapping their data to Wikidata the starting point
> is Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Status
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Status>. Click on
> the link for your country in the "maping tables" column (@Deror that is
> il_(he)
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Mapping_tables/il_(he)>
> for you) to start mapping. See e.g. the mapping for Iran
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Mapping_tables/ir_(fa)>
> as an example or give me a shout if you have any questions.
>
> If your data is already on Wikidata then please also take a look in the
> table to make sure we are aware of it.
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at Wikimania

2017-08-09 Thread Lodewijk
Hey all,

we're going to stay here in the hackathon space :)

Lodewijk

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Sorry, level 4!
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> We're in the hackathon room West Ballroom (right, entrance) on level 3.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:37 PM, <bepp...@gmx.at> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I think I will join the meeting at 1 pm to see what's going on and bring
>>> some news from Austria.
>>> Beppo
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 08. August 2017 um 17:47 Uhr
>>> *Von:* "Ciell Wikipedia" <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>
>>> *An:* "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
>>> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at
>>> Wikimania
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I talked to Ellie Young today: we have a room for Wednesday afternoon.
>>> If we want, we can go and sit in the Hemon room at level A (downstairs)
>>> from 1pm untill 4pm.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ciell
>>>
>>> 2017-08-05 10:28 GMT-04:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for checking with Rachel, Ciell. It's great that there is
>>>> flexibility on their end for on-site registrations. Let's check the place
>>>> in person on Tuesday/Wednesday, I agree with Lodewijk that more people will
>>>> be there, if not for other kinds of tasks WLM related (at least the
>>>> international team's engineers will be in the hacking space, too.:).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2017 04:09, "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like there will at least be three of us, and I suspect more
>>>> will join :)
>>>>
>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Ciell Wikipedia <
>>>> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lily and others
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what Rachel replied about the hackathon:
>>>>>  "I can confirm that there is on-site registration possible. You will
>>>>> need to do that at the main Wikimania registration and not at the 
>>>>> hackathon
>>>>> though.
>>>>> Also, just to clarify, we don't reserve tables for groups, people
>>>>> claim their own, however there will certainly be enough tables and space
>>>>> for your group to grab one in the hacking space once we get started. "
>>>>>
>>>>> Since no one else expressed interest, maybe it's just Lodewijk and me
>>>>> and we'll find a place in the lobby then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-04 7:32 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>>>>>> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi Lily,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You had to pre-register for the hachathon this year and I for
>>>>>> example didn't
>>>>>> > because I'm not a developer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> understood. Something to consider for next years: we should totally
>>>>>> use the hackathon times. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I will email the organisation of the hackathon though and see if
>>>>>> they have
>>>>>> > spare rooms. Sounds like a good idea ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This sounds great. They will want to get an estimate from you, though,
>>>>>> since they have to plan for foods as far as I understand from Rachel
>>>>>> Farrand's responses on Wikimania lists. So, have an estimate: bunch of
>>>>>> us are already registered for the Hackathon, so how about 10
>>>>>> non-registered max? (I'm making up the number, if you expect more,
>>>>>> just say more.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Groetjes Ciell
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> 

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at Wikimania

2017-08-09 Thread Lodewijk
Sorry, level 4!

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> We're in the hackathon room West Ballroom (right, entrance) on level 3.
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:37 PM, <bepp...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I think I will join the meeting at 1 pm to see what's going on and bring
>> some news from Austria.
>> Beppo
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 08. August 2017 um 17:47 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Ciell Wikipedia" <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>
>> *An:* "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
>> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at
>> Wikimania
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I talked to Ellie Young today: we have a room for Wednesday afternoon.
>> If we want, we can go and sit in the Hemon room at level A (downstairs)
>> from 1pm untill 4pm.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ciell
>>
>> 2017-08-05 10:28 GMT-04:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Thanks for checking with Rachel, Ciell. It's great that there is
>>> flexibility on their end for on-site registrations. Let's check the place
>>> in person on Tuesday/Wednesday, I agree with Lodewijk that more people will
>>> be there, if not for other kinds of tasks WLM related (at least the
>>> international team's engineers will be in the hacking space, too.:).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2017 04:09, "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> It sounds like there will at least be three of us, and I suspect more
>>> will join :)
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Ciell Wikipedia <
>>> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lily and others
>>>>
>>>> This is what Rachel replied about the hackathon:
>>>>  "I can confirm that there is on-site registration possible. You will
>>>> need to do that at the main Wikimania registration and not at the hackathon
>>>> though.
>>>> Also, just to clarify, we don't reserve tables for groups, people claim
>>>> their own, however there will certainly be enough tables and space for your
>>>> group to grab one in the hacking space once we get started. "
>>>>
>>>> Since no one else expressed interest, maybe it's just Lodewijk and me
>>>> and we'll find a place in the lobby then.
>>>>
>>>> Ciell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-08-04 7:32 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>>>>> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Lily,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You had to pre-register for the hachathon this year and I for
>>>>> example didn't
>>>>> > because I'm not a developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> understood. Something to consider for next years: we should totally
>>>>> use the hackathon times. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> > I will email the organisation of the hackathon though and see if
>>>>> they have
>>>>> > spare rooms. Sounds like a good idea ?
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds great. They will want to get an estimate from you, though,
>>>>> since they have to plan for foods as far as I understand from Rachel
>>>>> Farrand's responses on Wikimania lists. So, have an estimate: bunch of
>>>>> us are already registered for the Hackathon, so how about 10
>>>>> non-registered max? (I'm making up the number, if you expect more,
>>>>> just say more.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lily
>>>>>
>>>>> > Groetjes Ciell
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Op 3 aug. 2017 3:01 a.m. schreef "Lily" <
>>>>> lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi Ciell,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>>>>> >> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> > Hi all!
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I was talking to Lodewijk just now and there's still a lot to do
>>>>

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at Wikimania

2017-08-09 Thread Lodewijk
Hi everyone!

We're in the hackathon room West Ballroom (right, entrance) on level 3.

Lodewijk

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:37 PM, <bepp...@gmx.at> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I think I will join the meeting at 1 pm to see what's going on and bring
> some news from Austria.
> Beppo
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 08. August 2017 um 17:47 Uhr
> *Von:* "Ciell Wikipedia" <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>
> *An:* "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at
> Wikimania
> Hello all,
>
> I talked to Ellie Young today: we have a room for Wednesday afternoon.
> If we want, we can go and sit in the Hemon room at level A (downstairs)
> from 1pm untill 4pm.
>
> Cheers,
> Ciell
>
> 2017-08-05 10:28 GMT-04:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Thanks for checking with Rachel, Ciell. It's great that there is
>> flexibility on their end for on-site registrations. Let's check the place
>> in person on Tuesday/Wednesday, I agree with Lodewijk that more people will
>> be there, if not for other kinds of tasks WLM related (at least the
>> international team's engineers will be in the hacking space, too.:).
>>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2017 04:09, "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like there will at least be three of us, and I suspect more
>> will join :)
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Ciell Wikipedia <
>> ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lily and others
>>>
>>> This is what Rachel replied about the hackathon:
>>>  "I can confirm that there is on-site registration possible. You will
>>> need to do that at the main Wikimania registration and not at the hackathon
>>> though.
>>> Also, just to clarify, we don't reserve tables for groups, people claim
>>> their own, however there will certainly be enough tables and space for your
>>> group to grab one in the hacking space once we get started. "
>>>
>>> Since no one else expressed interest, maybe it's just Lodewijk and me
>>> and we'll find a place in the lobby then.
>>>
>>> Ciell
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-08-04 7:32 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>>>> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Lily,
>>>> >
>>>> > You had to pre-register for the hachathon this year and I for example
>>>> didn't
>>>> > because I'm not a developer.
>>>>
>>>> understood. Something to consider for next years: we should totally
>>>> use the hackathon times. :)
>>>>
>>>> > I will email the organisation of the hackathon though and see if they
>>>> have
>>>> > spare rooms. Sounds like a good idea ?
>>>>
>>>> This sounds great. They will want to get an estimate from you, though,
>>>> since they have to plan for foods as far as I understand from Rachel
>>>> Farrand's responses on Wikimania lists. So, have an estimate: bunch of
>>>> us are already registered for the Hackathon, so how about 10
>>>> non-registered max? (I'm making up the number, if you expect more,
>>>> just say more.)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you! :)
>>>>
>>>> Lily
>>>>
>>>> > Groetjes Ciell
>>>> >
>>>> > Op 3 aug. 2017 3:01 a.m. schreef "Lily" <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@
>>>> gmail.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi Ciell,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>>>> >> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > Hi all!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I was talking to Lodewijk just now and there's still a lot to do
>>>> for us
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > the competition in September can start. We want to sit together
>>>> next
>>>> >> > wednesday somewhere in the Sheraton.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If there are people willing to join us, please let us know! We'll
>>>> find a
>>>> >> > working space and post it on this list wednesday morning, so you
>>>> can
>>>> >> > jo

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Working together on Wednesday at Wikimania

2017-08-05 Thread Lodewijk
It sounds like there will at least be three of us, and I suspect more will
join :)

Lodewijk

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Lily and others
>
> This is what Rachel replied about the hackathon:
>  "I can confirm that there is on-site registration possible. You will need
> to do that at the main Wikimania registration and not at the hackathon
> though.
> Also, just to clarify, we don't reserve tables for groups, people claim
> their own, however there will certainly be enough tables and space for your
> group to grab one in the hacking space once we get started. "
>
> Since no one else expressed interest, maybe it's just Lodewijk and me and
> we'll find a place in the lobby then.
>
> Ciell
>
>
> 2017-08-04 7:32 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Lily,
>> >
>> > You had to pre-register for the hachathon this year and I for example
>> didn't
>> > because I'm not a developer.
>>
>> understood. Something to consider for next years: we should totally
>> use the hackathon times. :)
>>
>> > I will email the organisation of the hackathon though and see if they
>> have
>> > spare rooms. Sounds like a good idea ?
>>
>> This sounds great. They will want to get an estimate from you, though,
>> since they have to plan for foods as far as I understand from Rachel
>> Farrand's responses on Wikimania lists. So, have an estimate: bunch of
>> us are already registered for the Hackathon, so how about 10
>> non-registered max? (I'm making up the number, if you expect more,
>> just say more.)
>>
>> Thank you! :)
>>
>> Lily
>>
>> > Groetjes Ciell
>> >
>> > Op 3 aug. 2017 3:01 a.m. schreef "Lily" <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail
>> .com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi Ciell,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Ciell Wikipedia
>> >> <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi all!
>> >> >
>> >> > I was talking to Lodewijk just now and there's still a lot to do for
>> us
>> >> > for
>> >> > the competition in September can start. We want to sit together next
>> >> > wednesday somewhere in the Sheraton.
>> >> >
>> >> > If there are people willing to join us, please let us know! We'll
>> find a
>> >> > working space and post it on this list wednesday morning, so you can
>> >> > join
>> >> > us, help us, work with us, ask questions or just to collect some
>> >> > beautifull
>> >> > WLM postcards to send home!
>> >>
>> >> Nice idea, and I would love to drop by from time to time and work on
>> >> WLM-IR items, too. My question is: can we formalize this and get a
>> >> table at the hackathon location itself for Wiki Loves Monuments? This
>> >> way, we will have one fixed place where people can drop by and work on
>> >> Wiki Loves Monuments related items throughout the hackathon: backend,
>> >> frontend, software, content, etc. I'm sure the international team will
>> >> have some presence there, too. :D
>> >>
>> >> Lily
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Ciell
>> >> >
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM international team grant request : invitation for comments

2017-04-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

We're headed to another exciting year of Wiki Loves Monuments! As you may
have read before, the international team is full with ambition to make the
lives of the national organizers easier, including efforts to improve the
infrastructure and start a slow move towards including more monument data
in our shared Wikidata repository. Lily has presented our ambitions also in
Berlin, so the slides of her presentation here
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20170331_-_New_Ambitions_for_Wiki_Loves_Monuments.pdf>,
may be interesting to you as background.

Important initiatives include this year:
* Maintain the level of infrastructure and support from previous year
* Start the migration of monument data to Wikidata
* Enrich monuments data
* Make monuments data better discoverable through the Monumental tool
* Make it easier to monitor your campaigns

To realise these ambitions, we have requested a grant
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_international_team/2017_coordination>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_international_team/2017_coordination>by
the Wikimedia Foundation for the international team. While the activities
outlined above are done in volunteer time, the grant helps set the
conditions and focus on what we're best at :)

As always, we warmly invite you to share your feedback on this on the
talkpage or directly with us. The grant request includes more elaboration,
and is currently under review.

If you have any questions with regards to the ambitions in general, or
other questions about this year's WLM, this mailing list is probably the
best place to ask.

With warm regards,

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] documentation - jury process

2017-03-21 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Saqib,

the international jury coordinator (which is appointed/delegated by the
international team) selects jury members based on the criteria explained in
the documentation. Typically national coordinators are invited to suggest
candidates at some point in July/August.

Best,
Lodewijk

2017-03-21 9:26 GMT+01:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqibqayy...@gmail.com>:

> Lodewijk,
>
> How can one become part of international jury ?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the past year, I was responsible again for the international jury
>> process. As I would like to transfer this responsibility to someone else
>> coming year, I decided to thoroughly document it on Commons
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation/International_jury_process>.
>> You'll find a timeline, a list of responsibilities and template emails.
>>
>> I know that this doesn't exactly match the jury process that is being
>> organized in most countries, but perhaps some of it is of use to national
>> jury coordinators as well - at least as a matter of inspiration. At the
>> same time, it may be of use to you if you're planning to organize another
>> photo competition on an international level.
>>
>> Either way, if you have feedback on the documentation, please leave it on
>> the talkpage, and if you spot factual errors, you're encouraged to fix
>> them.
>>
>> I'm also collecting more documentation pages on this documentation portal
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation>
>> for Wiki Loves Monuments. Perhaps you know of documentation that could be
>> added? Please do so! At some point I will probably reorganize it a bit, so
>> feel free to just add things.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lodewijk
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] documentation - jury process

2017-03-20 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

In the past year, I was responsible again for the international jury
process. As I would like to transfer this responsibility to someone else
coming year, I decided to thoroughly document it on Commons
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation/International_jury_process>.
You'll find a timeline, a list of responsibilities and template emails.

I know that this doesn't exactly match the jury process that is being
organized in most countries, but perhaps some of it is of use to national
jury coordinators as well - at least as a matter of inspiration. At the
same time, it may be of use to you if you're planning to organize another
photo competition on an international level.

Either way, if you have feedback on the documentation, please leave it on
the talkpage, and if you spot factual errors, you're encouraged to fix
them.

I'm also collecting more documentation pages on this documentation portal
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Documentation>
for Wiki Loves Monuments. Perhaps you know of documentation that could be
added? Please do so! At some point I will probably reorganize it a bit, so
feel free to just add things.

Best,

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

2017-01-31 Thread Lodewijk
Sounds fair enough. I just candidated myself to this effect.

Lodewijk

2017-01-31 15:21 GMT+01:00 WereSpielChequers <werespielchequ...@gmail.com>:

> Commons admins remain admins indefinitely, all they have to do is at least
> 5 logged Admin actions every 6 months and not break the rules to the point
> that people decide to recall them.
>
> Rather than ask the WMF to give someone an admin override facility for
> Commons it might be easier if some more people from this list ran for admin
> on Commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators
>
>
> WSC
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 12:58, Ynhockey <ynhoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are Commons admins approved temporarily? I know some Wikipedias
>> (including Hebrew) don't have permanent adminship and re-approve admins
>> every once in a while, but it's probably a disastrous policy for Commons if
>> it's the case.
>>
>> Anyway, as much as I am surprised that no top WLM organizer is a Commons
>> admin (although there's clearly at least one admin on this mailing list),
>> it's possible to get around this, although not easy. Lily has a good
>> channel to the WMF and most of us are long-time users who know many others
>> + many developers. The solution can be technical, and it can come from the
>> WLM: perhaps a new user group that can only see historical revisions and
>> restore without some of the other admin rights, perhaps an options to
>> archive images that "need" to be deleted on groups of Commons policy, but
>> aren't opposed by the foundation's legal team (might be a solution for URAA
>> images as well), etc.
>>
>> I know that many in the community don't want any WMF interference, and
>> the WMF wants to repair community ties—both are completely understandable.
>> I don't want to suggest that we should interfere with these processes, but
>> do think we can implement some kind of solution on the side. After all, WLM
>> is a big project that costs a ton of resources. Just in terms of money, the
>> WMF (or sometimes local donations) funds it with tens of thousands of
>> dollars, directly or indirectly. It's therefore worth investing a little
>> bit more to technically support projects like WLM.
>>
>> —Yan (Ynhockey).
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <
>> nemow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WereSpielChequers, 31/01/2017 09:39:
>>>
>>>> I'm not an admin on commons, but where I am an admin it would be
>>>> expected that you would check the history of a file before deleting it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's expected on Commons too, see <https://commons.wikimedia.org
>>> /wiki/Commons:Deletion_policy#Speedy_deletion>.
>>>
>>> When mistakes happen on Commons, we're sometimes too quick at
>>> generalising. Currently Commons has issues with one or two rampant admins
>>> who make semi-random deletions en masse (and even edit war on deletion
>>> requests). Hopefully the situation is temporary.
>>>
>>> Nemo
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

2017-01-30 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Alexander,

Thanks for sharing your experiences again. It is appreciated.

There are (at least) three issues playing in parallel here, and while they
interfere, they require different approaches:
* Sometimes admins move too quickly or don't follow the right process. This
is something we have to sort out through the regular channels on Commons -
because it affects all uploads and not just Wiki Loves Monuments. I don't
want to downplay this, but to some extent, this will always happen.
* We need to find good pathways to identify photos that are not matching
criteria. Sometimes we can make the extra effort to fix it (like in this
case, where someone has removed information that was already there).
Someone could make a tool to identify these images, and make a report. This
seems to be what you're asking: to be informed. If normal processes are
followed, a deletion template/category would be added to the image, and
this is actually something that could be reported by a bot. You'd only need
to find someone to write that for you.
* What I was concerned about, is that an image gets deleted after the jury
process is finished for a valid reason. This happened a few times. There is
nothing we can do (or should want to do) to avoid these deletions. However,
what I can imagine, is a better process to detect these images earlier, so
that they are not nominated in the first place. I went through the top-50
manually, and checked for all kind of suspicious activity. If the metadata
looked suspicious, or if anything was missing, I would contact the author.
I know that at least one national team also checked each image through
google images to see if it was available elsewhere on the web. However,
that doesn't scale. But, I'd like to collect approaches here, and then
maybe someone can come up with a good way to automate :)

I hope that clarifies.

Best,
Lodewijk

2017-01-30 23:09 GMT+01:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:

> I think that I have raised this issue back in September, and at that time
> Mr. Lodewijk told me that Commons admins are special people who are not
> supposed to read and check anything. They simply delete an image if they
> want to do so, while the rest of the community should shut up and comply. I
> am not sure whether Mr. Lodewijk is going to reconsider his opinion now,
> but at least it is good to see that others find such behavior of Commons
> admins detrimental.
>
> Regarding our own license checks, we of course do that for Russian WLM,
> and we also tried to take care of no-FoP images by systematically tagging
> them and transferring them to other projects under fair use. However, we
> quickly found out that Commons admins take advantage of this process and
> delete the images before we have a chance to transfer them (the notorious
> sysop  Jcb was also part of that story). From that point on, we had to
> adopt a different strategy and make sure that no-FoP images simply stay on
> Commons, because there is no reasonable way to organize the file transfer
> without the danger of having the files deleted before the transfer occurs.
>
> More generally, I am sure that the Commons community has to reconsider
> their attitude toward the WLM photos. These photos are not regular uploads,
> and there are always people who are ready to take care of them if problems
> occur. It will be very natural if WLM organizers get notified about
> potential problems and have their say before(!) the files are nominated for
> deletion. I believe that the international organizers should seriously push
> forward this idea. Otherwise, we can easily face a situation when all
> winning photos are inconspicuously deleted under weird pretexts like 'no
> license', and none of us would even understand what happened, because files
> have been deleted, and all evidence lost.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alexander
>
>
>
> On 30.01.2017 17:28, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> OK, so in this case the information was apparently removed
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:%EB%B4%84%EC%9D%B4_%EC%98%A8_%EC%88%98%EC%9B%90_%ED%99%94%EC%84%B1.jpg=prev=230157217>by
> someone unrelated to the author - very odd - and deleted by an admin
> without further checking. I restored the image on the list of winners.
>
> The general question for best practices stands though - especially given
> the deletions that sometimes happen with regards to freedom of panorama. It
> would be nice if we could at least catch those earlier.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2017-01-30 17:17 GMT+01:00 Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I restored the image, the info still there in the history.
>>
>> Ciell
>>
>> 2017-01-30 17:07 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>>
>>> People can also upload images manual

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

2017-01-30 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks!

OK, so in this case the information was apparently removed
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:%EB%B4%84%EC%9D%B4_%EC%98%A8_%EC%88%98%EC%9B%90_%ED%99%94%EC%84%B1.jpg=prev=230157217>by
someone unrelated to the author - very odd - and deleted by an admin
without further checking. I restored the image on the list of winners.

The general question for best practices stands though - especially given
the deletions that sometimes happen with regards to freedom of panorama. It
would be nice if we could at least catch those earlier.

Best,
Lodewijk


2017-01-30 17:17 GMT+01:00 Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>:

> I restored the image, the info still there in the history.
>
> Ciell
>
> 2017-01-30 17:07 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
>> People can also upload images manually. As I'm no longer an admin, I
>> can't check the history of the file - and there was no page with deletion
>> request created. The recent file I noticed was 봄이_온_수원_화성.jpg
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 2017-01-30 17:06 GMT+01:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> The WLM upload wizard adds the cc-by-sa-4.0 license automatically.
>>> Therefore, it is hard to imagine that a WLM photo had no license. It rather
>>> means that someone removed the license, and then someone else deleted the
>>> file. Was it the case here?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30.01.2017 11:51, Lodewijk wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> As I noted that two of the national nominees have been deleted after
>>> their nomination, I was curious, are there any process improvements we
>>> could consider to avoid this to some extent?
>>>
>>> I would be curious to hear some best practices that countries have
>>> implemented to check for formalities. For example, I noted that one image
>>> from Korea was deleted apparently because the licese was missing. I'm
>>> guessing that this is something we could check for semi-automated. Are
>>> there countries that do this?
>>>
>>> I do some manual checking for the top-50 internationally, just before we
>>> enter the final round. But it is very hard to scale that, and it eats up a
>>> lot of time. Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

2017-01-30 Thread Lodewijk
People can also upload images manually. As I'm no longer an admin, I can't
check the history of the file - and there was no page with deletion request
created. The recent file I noticed was 봄이_온_수원_화성.jpg

Best,
Lodewijk

2017-01-30 17:06 GMT+01:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:

> The WLM upload wizard adds the cc-by-sa-4.0 license automatically.
> Therefore, it is hard to imagine that a WLM photo had no license. It rather
> means that someone removed the license, and then someone else deleted the
> file. Was it the case here?
>
> Sincerely,
> Alexander
>
>
> On 30.01.2017 11:51, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> As I noted that two of the national nominees have been deleted after their
> nomination, I was curious, are there any process improvements we could
> consider to avoid this to some extent?
>
> I would be curious to hear some best practices that countries have
> implemented to check for formalities. For example, I noted that one image
> from Korea was deleted apparently because the licese was missing. I'm
> guessing that this is something we could check for semi-automated. Are
> there countries that do this?
>
> I do some manual checking for the top-50 internationally, just before we
> enter the final round. But it is very hard to scale that, and it eats up a
> lot of time. Any other ideas?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

2017-01-30 Thread Lodewijk
Hey all,

As I noted that two of the national nominees have been deleted after their
nomination, I was curious, are there any process improvements we could
consider to avoid this to some extent?

I would be curious to hear some best practices that countries have
implemented to check for formalities. For example, I noted that one image
from Korea was deleted apparently because the licese was missing. I'm
guessing that this is something we could check for semi-automated. Are
there countries that do this?

I do some manual checking for the top-50 internationally, just before we
enter the final round. But it is very hard to scale that, and it eats up a
lot of time. Any other ideas?

Best,
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] WLM 2016 results are announced

2016-12-20 Thread Lodewijk
This is great to see! Thank you for the efforts of making these press
publications happen. It would be great if you could share them in our
general overview:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Press_mentions


Best,
Lodewijk

2016-12-20 15:51 GMT+01:00 Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <marti...@gmail.com>:

> Hi!
>
> I wrote a short press release (about both local and global results) and
> biggest news site in Latvia published it with pictures:
> http://www.delfi.lv/kultura/news/art/foto-noskaidroti-
> pasaules-lielaka-fotokonkursa-uzvaretaji.d?id=48325309
>
>  Mārtiņš
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <
> nurunnabyhas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bangladeshi leading newspaper The Daily Prothom Alo published this news
>> today: http://www.prothom-alo.com/technology/article/1042909
>>
>> -Hasive
>> WMBD
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Philip,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the note. :) We do look forward to working with you more
>>> closely for 2017 as we rethink our strategies around countries that have
>>> captured (almost;) all their monuments via photos.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lily
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Philip Kopetzky <
>>> philip.kopet...@wikimedia.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to take the opportunity to congratulate the international
>>>> WLM team on a job well done and thank them for the work and energy they
>>>> have put into organising the international contest this year! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Philip
>>>>
>>>> On 15 December 2016 at 20:06, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been an incredible 4 months. On behalf of Wiki Loves Monuments
>>>>> international team I'd like to thank /all/ of you who made this year's
>>>>> contest possible. We have achieved a lot together.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this email, we're sharing with you the result of the contest. There
>>>>> are 15 winners in this year's contest chosen among 392 photos that made it
>>>>> to the international contest. The international jury carefully reviewed
>>>>> these photos and chose the top 15 among them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like any other contest, there are photos and countries that have made
>>>>> it to the top 15 and those who haven't. It's important for us to remember
>>>>> that our work towards free knowledge for everyone is beyond the
>>>>> geographical borders and contests. The contest is a means to an end. This
>>>>> is a day that we all should celebrate for empowering more people to share
>>>>> in the sum of all human knowledge, for helping them bring amazing photos 
>>>>> to
>>>>> Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, Wikidata, and our other 
>>>>> projects,
>>>>> and for helping them discover their heritage.
>>>>>
>>>>> All key metrics showed significant growth compared to last year: the
>>>>> number of participating countries (more than 30% increase), the number of
>>>>> participants (62% increase), the number of first time contributors to
>>>>> Wikimedia projects (78% increase), and the number of photos uploaded (20%
>>>>> increase). This year we also welcomed four first time participating
>>>>> countries from very different parts of the world: Bangladesh, Greece, 
>>>>> Peru,
>>>>> and South Korea. I want to emphasize this: /you/ made all of this happen! 
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, please sit back and enjoy the result of your efforts:
>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016
>>>>> _winners#Winners
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read the blog posts about the results as well. They are:
>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/winners-2016/
>>>>> and
>>>>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/12/15/seventh-annual-wiki-lo
>>>>> ves-monuments/
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Lily, on behalf of the WLM international team
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>&

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] The big day is here

2016-12-16 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Johnattan,

To the best of my knowledge, no translation efforts are underway currently.
So if you want to take it up and translate relevant parts - please do! You
can translate and repost as you wish. While the blog post of
wikilovesmonuments.org is default in English only, you could translate
pages on Commons quite well (such as the winners page and the descriptions
of the individual images).

Hope that answers your question,
Lodewijk

2016-12-16 15:02 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire <jarja...@riseup.net>:

> Hi,
> are you working in translations of posts? If not, we can do it at weekend.
> Thanks a lot to all of you for your work! Very beautiful all winners
> photos. We hope to next year some peruvian monuments Will be in this list.
> ;)
>
> best,
>
> Johnattan Rupire
>
>
> El 15 de diciembre de 2016 1:34:47 AM GMT-05:00, Lily <
> lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> An update on the international team's end, as much as I have visibility
>> into:
>>
>> *The feel*
>> These are very exciting hours for us. We all have worked for almost four
>> months with you, and today is the big day for all of us. We are doing the
>> best in these final hours to tighten up anything that needs our attention.
>>
>> *The facts*
>> Unless something unexpected happens, here are the facts as we know them
>> now:
>> * The results are scheduled to be announced at 19:00 UTC today.
>> * The results will be announced through different channels, some of which
>> are: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ and https://twitter.com/wikimon
>> uments and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_
>> winners.
>> * The WMF will have a blog post about the results at https://blog.
>> wikimedia.org/
>> * There are probably other channels who will tweet about the results or
>> cover the story of WLM 2016. I won't call them out here since I'm not
>> sure about those channels. :) We will celebrate if this happens.
>> * We initially had a plan to do a count-down starting rank 25 all the way
>> to rank 1. We had to change this plan for the following reason: We had to
>> agree on an embargo time with some press outlets, meaning that none of the
>> top 15 photos can be shared on social media (or anywhere public) before
>> 19:00 UTC. At this moment, we're planning to still do 1 tweet per photo,
>> but probably starting Friday morning. This way, we can bring back some more
>> views to the top 25 photos on Friday and over the weekend. This plan is
>> still not fully settled and we may have to adjust it depending on how
>> things go in the next 15 hours or so.
>>
>> *What can you do?*
>> * If you are an organization with access to local press, you can take one
>> or more of the blog posts (once published at 19:00 UTC) and encourage
>> your local press to cover the story. This will be incredibly helpful to
>> spread the story of WLM 2016 even further.
>> * If you are on social media, please consider retweeting or sharing the
>> announcements, photos, etc. We want to reach as many people as possible,
>> bring them to the beautiful photos and tell them the story of WLM and
>> the volunteers and people behind it.
>> * I'm sure I'm missing so many things you can do. Please be creative. :)
>>
>> If you have questions/comments, please share them here. We may not
>> respond immediately, but we do our best to respond asap. :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Lily
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] The big day is here

2016-12-15 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Saqib,

We're working indeed with a large number of different countries, and it's
hard to find a perfect timing. Either way it's too late to change now - but
I suggest you bring it to the evaluation later? That way we can reconsider
again next year.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-12-15 14:21 GMT+01:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qay...@hotmail.com>:

> I don;t understand why the results are being announced at the end of day
>  - in most countries. At-least should be started to announce on Twitter UTC
> time 14:00
>
>
> Saqib
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> *Subject:* [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WLM announce] The big day is here
>
> Hi all,
>
> An update on the international team's end, as much as I have visibility
> into:
>
> *The feel*
> These are very exciting hours for us. We all have worked for almost four
> months with you, and today is the big day for all of us. We are doing the
> best in these final hours to tighten up anything that needs our attention.
>
> *The facts*
> Unless something unexpected happens, here are the facts as we know them
> now:
> * The results are scheduled to be announced at 19:00 UTC today.
> * The results will be announced through different channels, some of which
> are: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ and https://twitter.com/wikimon
> uments and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_
> winners.
> * The WMF will have a blog post about the results at https://blog.
> wikimedia.org/
> * There are probably other channels who will tweet about the results or
> cover the story of WLM 2016. I won't call them out here since I'm not
> sure about those channels. :) We will celebrate if this happens.
> * We initially had a plan to do a count-down starting rank 25 all the way
> to rank 1. We had to change this plan for the following reason: We had to
> agree on an embargo time with some press outlets, meaning that none of the
> top 15 photos can be shared on social media (or anywhere public) before
> 19:00 UTC. At this moment, we're planning to still do 1 tweet per photo,
> but probably starting Friday morning. This way, we can bring back some more
> views to the top 25 photos on Friday and over the weekend. This plan is
> still not fully settled and we may have to adjust it depending on how
> things go in the next 15 hours or so.
>
> *What can you do?*
> * If you are an organization with access to local press, you can take one
> or more of the blog posts (once published at 19:00 UTC) and encourage
> your local press to cover the story. This will be incredibly helpful to
> spread the story of WLM 2016 even further.
> * If you are on social media, please consider retweeting or sharing the
> announcements, photos, etc. We want to reach as many people as possible,
> bring them to the beautiful photos and tell them the story of WLM and the
> volunteers and people behind it.
> * I'm sure I'm missing so many things you can do. Please be creative. :)
>
> If you have questions/comments, please share them here. We may not respond
> immediately, but we do our best to respond asap. :)
>
> Best,
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] (no subject)

2016-11-08 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Neville,

I've heard that for this kind of tasks, typically a tool like Powerpoint is
surprisingly useful. You can re-use the text fields etc, and only have to
copy & paste some things. The slideyou can set to the exact format of your
expected print. Another option is Publisher, but this is less likely to be
available. Both are non-open-source products though - I haven't used their
open source counterparts very recently.

Lodewijk

2016-11-08 7:19 GMT+01:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Neville,
>
> I'm not aware of any tool you can use for batch processing this. If no one
> else comes up with a tool or code you can use here, feel free to create a
> spreadsheet, add a few columns that you need to be filled, and share it
> with us. Some of us may be able to help you fill it out. For example, doing
> what I /think/ you want to do for 4-5 countries is not very hard for me.
> I'd be happy to help.
>
> Lily
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Neville Borg <neville.b...@wikimalta.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We (WLM Malta) are working on a small exhibition at a local arts centre
>> where we will be exhibiting (on a number of screens) all Maltese WLM 2016
>> entries together with the top 10 from each other country that participated
>> in WLM 2016. Unfortunately, we are finding it extremely time consuming to
>> individually caption each photo (author, name of photo, country etc.) using
>> Photoshop or other photo editing software.
>>
>> Does anybody know whether there is any tool or batch processing
>> application that would help us process this quicker or somehow facilitate
>> the process? Or any other tips on how to make this process smoother?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Neville
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] International jury pool complete, international finale starts.

2016-11-05 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

The international jurypool is now closed, and contains 392 images from 41
national competitions (if nothing comes up as problematic during import).
It was a great joy to see many of the beautiful nominated pictures. I thank
everyone who has submitted their nominees with care following the outlined
process.

We will be setting up the jury process now, and the international jury will
soon start with its work. Their process and membership is described here
<http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/jury/>. One final juror may be added
still.

We have not checked all nominees for validity. We will soon be importing
the images nominated into the jury tool. For this particular finale, we
will take extra care to import the version as it was 'live' by the end of
the competition in that country - and to ignore all edits made after that
point. If you're aware of exceptional situations where this would be
especially problematic (for example: the image was vandalized and replaced
just before closing, and reverted shortly after), please get in touch with
me privately.

We are planning to go through this process in a steady and thorough pace -
and finish the process by the end of November. We expect to announce the
winners officially in the first two weeks of December - depending on
challenges with regards to the jury report, press and checks & balances for
particular images.

I hope you're looking forward to the winners as much as we are!

With warm regards,

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool for images based on Monument ID

2016-09-29 Thread Lodewijk
I guess that if someone could make a csv with all uploads and their
identifiers - these statistics could quite easily be extracted.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-29 9:14 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>:

> On 29.09.2016 08:56, Naveen Francis wrote:
>
>> Hi llya,
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_databas
>> e/Indexed_images
>>
>> For India, it is showing zero. Is there anything wrong ?
>>
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>>
>> Thanks,
>> Naveen Francis
>>  [1]
>>
>
> The category was a redirect (which obviously contains zero images), and I
> have now corrected it, but the page was not updated since June anyway.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Searching for uploads

2016-09-28 Thread Lodewijk
Would it be possible to take the geocoordinates from the metadata of the
non-WLM images, and test them for 'ireland'?

But I suspect not many people found their way to Commons, if the link
didn't work.

-- Lodewijk

2016-09-29 0:03 GMT+02:00 Platonides <platoni...@gmail.com>:

> Rebecca O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We've just realised that some of the upload links on our Irish WLM
>> website are broken, and we're not sure how long they have been like
>> that. Is there any way to search Wiki Commons for content uploaded from
>> Ireland over the past 3 weeks, to see if there are any users that we
>> should contact about photographs that should be included in WLM?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Rebecca
>>
>
> No. You can't search uploaded files by user geolocation.
> (Technically, it might be possible to cross the info from several logs to
> get it, but (a) it'd be complex to perform and (b) I'm pretty sure such
> request would be rejected)
>
> Where did your broken links point to?
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] how to label photos that won't be part of the competition

2016-09-26 Thread Lodewijk
Yeah, a good definition is important here :) We could also make both
categories: "Disqualified images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2016" and "Not
considered images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2016" (or if someone knows a
better category name, just suggest it). The first should include images
that were removed on formal grounds, the second images that were removed
from consideration for other reasons.

For the record: both would not be considered as 'part of the competition'
for Guinness World Record purposes, if that were to become relevant again.
For that, they actually need to compete for the prizes somehow.

Lodewijk

Lodewijk

2016-09-26 19:13 GMT+02:00 <bepp...@gmx.at>:

> In Austria last year we had a https://commons.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_in_
> Austria_not_for_prejury The photographers themselves decided to put
> pictures there to relieve the prjury. Of course these photos did not reach
> the jury too. But that did not mean, that they would not be part of WLM
> 2015. The category should not be mixed up with disqualified images. I think
> that is what Lodewijk meant.
> Best
> Beppo
>
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 26. September 2016 um 18:20 Uhr
> *Von:* Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>
> *An:* "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Cc:* "Mahmoud Hashemi" <mak...@gmail.com>, "Stephen LaPorte" <
> stephen.lapo...@gmail.com>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] how to label photos that won't be
> part of the competition
> Lodewijk, from a local organizer's perspective, this can make it easier
> for Iran, since we don't have to invent things on our own. This can also
> make communications with other local organizers in the following years
> easier. The international team can encourage the use of one global category
> for these purposes. I'm curious what other's think.
>
> I'm adding the Montage and WLX folks for their feedback. From the jury
> tool's perspective, I see at least two options:
> * The tools be able to exclude photos by category, the same way they can
> include photos by category.
> * Hardcoding one global category that the tools will use by default to
> exclude photos submitted as part of the contest.
>
> Leila
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> (and my definition of 'excluded' would then be 'disqualified or otherwise
>> out-of-competition'. Images that have little chance of winning should be
>> removed in a different way, so that the statistics are clean.)
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 2016-09-26 17:49 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>>>
>>> Would it be helpful to create one category on an international level
>>> with excluded images (because of copyvio, or because the uploader is
>>> out-of-competition) so that the jury tools can directly draw upon that? You
>>> could put national out-of-competition categories immediately into that.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> 2016-09-26 17:42 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for the super fast responses. :) We will use a category
>>>> to exclude them from the competition part, and/or will use the uploaders'
>>>> usernames for doing that.
>>>>
>>>> Leila
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:40 AM, attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Aye, we also use category like that: https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>>>> wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_WLM_2016_in_Ukraine
>>>>> The pictures there are also not included in the portion that goes to
>>>>> the jury.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> antanana
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-09-26 18:31 GMT+03:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-09-26 17:24 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We exclude such pictures (made by jury members, orgs and their
>>>>>>> relatives (if disclosed))
>>>>>>> and they do not even get to the jury to evaluate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Usually we just give the usernames we want to exclude to I

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] how to label photos that won't be part of the competition

2016-09-26 Thread Lodewijk
(and my definition of 'excluded' would then be 'disqualified or otherwise
out-of-competition'. Images that have little chance of winning should be
removed in a different way, so that the statistics are clean.)

Lodewijk

2016-09-26 17:49 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:

> Would it be helpful to create one category on an international level with
> excluded images (because of copyvio, or because the uploader is
> out-of-competition) so that the jury tools can directly draw upon that? You
> could put national out-of-competition categories immediately into that.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2016-09-26 17:42 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thank you all for the super fast responses. :) We will use a category to
>> exclude them from the competition part, and/or will use the uploaders'
>> usernames for doing that.
>>
>> Leila
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:40 AM, attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Aye, we also use category like that: https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>> wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_WLM_2016_in_Ukraine
>>> The pictures there are also not included in the portion that goes to the
>>> jury.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> antanana
>>>
>>> 2016-09-26 18:31 GMT+03:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com>
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-09-26 17:24 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> We exclude such pictures (made by jury members, orgs and their
>>>>> relatives (if disclosed))
>>>>> and they do not even get to the jury to evaluate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually we just give the usernames we want to exclude to Ilya, who
>>>>> removes the images smaller than 2Mpx and this kind of images at the
>>>>> preliminary stage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> antanana
>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In France, we extensively use categories like
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Out_of_competiti
>>>> on_images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_France (for jury membres,
>>>> chapter staffs, relatives, etc.) or https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>>> wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_Wiki_Love
>>>> s_Monuments_2016_in_France (no problem with the uploader but the photo
>>>> represent an unidentified monument or an identified but not protected
>>>> monument).
>>>>
>>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] how to label photos that won't be part of the competition

2016-09-26 Thread Lodewijk
Would it be helpful to create one category on an international level with
excluded images (because of copyvio, or because the uploader is
out-of-competition) so that the jury tools can directly draw upon that? You
could put national out-of-competition categories immediately into that.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-26 17:42 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:

> Thank you all for the super fast responses. :) We will use a category to
> exclude them from the competition part, and/or will use the uploaders'
> usernames for doing that.
>
> Leila
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:40 AM, attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Aye, we also use category like that: https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>> wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_WLM_2016_in_Ukraine
>> The pictures there are also not included in the portion that goes to the
>> jury.
>>
>> Best,
>> antanana
>>
>> 2016-09-26 18:31 GMT+03:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-09-26 17:24 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> We exclude such pictures (made by jury members, orgs and their
>>>> relatives (if disclosed))
>>>> and they do not even get to the jury to evaluate.
>>>>
>>>> Usually we just give the usernames we want to exclude to Ilya, who
>>>> removes the images smaller than 2Mpx and this kind of images at the
>>>> preliminary stage.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> antanana
>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
>>>>
>>>
>>> In France, we extensively use categories like
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Out_of_competiti
>>> on_images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_France (for jury membres,
>>> chapter staffs, relatives, etc.) or https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>> wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_Wiki_Love
>>> s_Monuments_2016_in_France (no problem with the uploader but the photo
>>> represent an unidentified monument or an identified but not protected
>>> monument).
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for suggestions for the international jury

2016-09-22 Thread Lodewijk
(and for the record: I'll need suggestions ideally in the nxt 24 hours :)
After that, I'll start inviting some more people again, but suggestions
remain welcome - I will definitely keep them for next year if I don't use
them this time! -- Lodewijk)

2016-09-22 13:33 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:

> Hi all,
>
> As I'm working on finalizing the international jury for this year (more
> details below, that I shared before), there are some specific
> characteristics that I would especially appreciate suggestions for (keeping
> the mentioned constraints in mind):
>
> - Wikimedia Commons uploaders with a lot of features/good quality images
> - A Wikipedian that is very active in the heritage articles field (and
> also has a sense for quality images)
> - Someone with a background in countries in Asia, Africa, North America
> and/or Eastern Europe.
> - A professional prize winning photographer
>
> Or a combination of those, of course! Please get in touch with me directly
> if you have suggestions.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2016-08-18 11:18 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Like every year, we need to put together a good jury for Wiki Loves
>> Monuments 2016. It is a complicated and delicate process to come to a
>> balanced jury, and I would like to outline the criteria here, and to ask
>> for your input. I have agreed to take the lead on this process - but would
>> definitely welcome your input, and help.
>>
>> As in the past years, I think it is important to aim once again for a
>> jury that as a whole is neutral and balanced in many ways. This means
>> ideally:
>> * A mix of photography experts, heritage experts and Wikimedia experts
>> (aiming at a total size of 7-9)
>> * Geographically balanced so that no two jury members come from the same
>> country.
>> * Balance in many other ways imaginable (while at the same time, one can
>> never assure a balance in all aspects)
>> * The international jury members do not serve on a national jury for WLM
>>
>> At the same time, there are some practical considerations:
>> * Jury members must be able to write and read English
>> * They must have the time to commit to judge 200-500 photos in three
>> rounds over a period of 3 weeks in November
>> * While jury members can participate in a local competition, their
>> photos cannot participate in the international finale
>> * Jury members should not participate in any national jury for 2016
>> (previous years is OK)
>> * It would be helpful if the juror would be willing to share their real
>> name for the jury report.
>> * Jury work is in a volunteer capacity.
>>
>> Do you know someone who would make a good juror, please contact me
>> privately with the suggestion. At least let me know who the juror is, how I
>> could contact him/her and why they would make a good jurymember (and
>> whether you have reason to believe they would accept the nomination, if
>> asked).
>>
>> I will do my best to put together once again a qualified and diverse jury,
>> with your help!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>> (international jury coordinator, WLM 2016)
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for suggestions for the international jury

2016-09-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

As I'm working on finalizing the international jury for this year (more
details below, that I shared before), there are some specific
characteristics that I would especially appreciate suggestions for (keeping
the mentioned constraints in mind):

- Wikimedia Commons uploaders with a lot of features/good quality images
- A Wikipedian that is very active in the heritage articles field (and also
has a sense for quality images)
- Someone with a background in countries in Asia, Africa, North America
and/or Eastern Europe.
- A professional prize winning photographer

Or a combination of those, of course! Please get in touch with me directly
if you have suggestions.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-08-18 11:18 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:

> Hi all,
>
> Like every year, we need to put together a good jury for Wiki Loves
> Monuments 2016. It is a complicated and delicate process to come to a
> balanced jury, and I would like to outline the criteria here, and to ask
> for your input. I have agreed to take the lead on this process - but would
> definitely welcome your input, and help.
>
> As in the past years, I think it is important to aim once again for a jury 
> that
> as a whole is neutral and balanced in many ways. This means ideally:
> * A mix of photography experts, heritage experts and Wikimedia experts
> (aiming at a total size of 7-9)
> * Geographically balanced so that no two jury members come from the same
> country.
> * Balance in many other ways imaginable (while at the same time, one can
> never assure a balance in all aspects)
> * The international jury members do not serve on a national jury for WLM
>
> At the same time, there are some practical considerations:
> * Jury members must be able to write and read English
> * They must have the time to commit to judge 200-500 photos in three
> rounds over a period of 3 weeks in November
> * While jury members can participate in a local competition, their photos
> cannot participate in the international finale
> * Jury members should not participate in any national jury for 2016
> (previous years is OK)
> * It would be helpful if the juror would be willing to share their real
> name for the jury report.
> * Jury work is in a volunteer capacity.
>
> Do you know someone who would make a good juror, please contact me
> privately with the suggestion. At least let me know who the juror is, how I
> could contact him/her and why they would make a good jurymember (and
> whether you have reason to believe they would accept the nomination, if
> asked).
>
> I will do my best to put together once again a qualified and diverse jury,
> with your help!
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
> (international jury coordinator, WLM 2016)
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons

2016-09-18 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Alexander,

When walking in a kitchen, it should not be surprising that many people
walk toward you with a knife - they are maybe not following security
protocol (leave the knife at the cutting station etc), but you should still
assume good faith. Luckily, the results of their actions are mostly extra
work, and not fatal here.

You're correct that a more civil approach would be welcome. The same goes
for WLM-russia, by the way (while you have good intentions and are clearly
trying to focus on the arguments, you come across as quite agressive). We
will still need to work together.

Please don't assume that admins actually will read your guidelines. They
won't. If they read the templates, that would already be a big surprise -
there are simply too many of them, and it would cost them too much time.
They typically process high quantities of images in short amounts of time.
Then things go wrong. So you'll still have to go in there and discuss the
issue patiently probably.

If you want these collaborations to work more smoothly: don't wetten your
knife unless you're prepared to help cutting the vegetables. But stay
civil, and remain patient. Annoying, but more effective.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-18 3:23 GMT+02:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:

> Dear Lodewijk,
>
> I find it a bit difficult to assume good faith when someone approaches me
> with a knife. I find it more natural to defend, and that's what we have to
> do now.
>
> I truly regret that Commons did not develop a more civil approach than
> submitting deletion requests on every possible occasion. Even if we assume
> that this is the reasonable course of action, it hardly makes sense for
> WLM, because only uploaders receive notifications about possible file
> deletion. The organizers have no idea about it, although they should be
> contacted in the first turn. Most of the uploaders are new users who do not
> speak English. What do you expect to hear from them?
>
> All photos related to WLM Russia contain a template saying:
>
> Please read the guidelines
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database_in_Russia>
> before making any changes that can affect the monuments database!
>
> If you actually read the guidelines, you will see the following:
>
> If you see a potential candidate for deletion, *inform us in the first
> place*. We will organize the file transfer and you will be able to delete
> the photo afterwards. Should you do it differently and nominate a WLM/WLE
> photo for deletion without informing us, this will be highly detrimental
> and disrespectful to our work. We don't like vandals.
>
> All these deletion requests are indeed highly disrespectful to our work.
> But they happen, and we have no other choice but to fight against that. And
> whet our knives, because we will likely need them.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alexander
>
>
>
>
> On 17.09.2016 12:17, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Hey Alexander,
>
> Assuming good faith is always good - even if you have to work harder for
> it. It makes the interactions more pleasant and the work more fun. So I
> will always recommend to keep doing it - even if it goes against your
> natural response.
>
> The case where the names don't seem to match seems like a valid case to me
> to ask questions, and this process is (unfortunately) the process being
> used for that at Wikimedia Commons. It is uncomfortable, but it is what we
> have to deal with. Because there are so many pictures, there is a bunch to
> be expected.
>
> I'm not going to pretend that the Wikimedia Commons community is always
> easy or fun to work with - but their intentions are usually good. They are
> very tough on copyright, and very suspicious. While these are some
> disadvantages, it does allow us to use a lot of shared infrastructure, and
> makes competitions like this one possible on an international scale. Please
> do realise that the number of uploads typically raises with 30-100% during
> Wiki Loves Monuments, and this puts some stress/strain on the reviewers
> too.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2016-09-17 8:58 GMT+02:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Rather than complaining to the process could you please for once think
>> that this is your project too and everyone in this together?
>>
>> It is not my project. Like many other people, I am forced to use it as a
>> common image repository, even though I emphatically do not want to. As you
>> probably know, before migrating to WMF servers Wikivoyage had its own image
>> repository, and we wanted to keep it, because it was much better organized
>> than Commons, and we did not want other people to impose their rules and
>> practices of "nominating everything for deletion" on imag

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons

2016-09-17 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Alexander,

Assuming good faith is always good - even if you have to work harder for
it. It makes the interactions more pleasant and the work more fun. So I
will always recommend to keep doing it - even if it goes against your
natural response.

The case where the names don't seem to match seems like a valid case to me
to ask questions, and this process is (unfortunately) the process being
used for that at Wikimedia Commons. It is uncomfortable, but it is what we
have to deal with. Because there are so many pictures, there is a bunch to
be expected.

I'm not going to pretend that the Wikimedia Commons community is always
easy or fun to work with - but their intentions are usually good. They are
very tough on copyright, and very suspicious. While these are some
disadvantages, it does allow us to use a lot of shared infrastructure, and
makes competitions like this one possible on an international scale. Please
do realise that the number of uploads typically raises with 30-100% during
Wiki Loves Monuments, and this puts some stress/strain on the reviewers
too.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-17 8:58 GMT+02:00 Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>:

> Rather than complaining to the process could you please for once think
> that this is your project too and everyone in this together?
>
> It is not my project. Like many other people, I am forced to use it as a
> common image repository, even though I emphatically do not want to. As you
> probably know, before migrating to WMF servers Wikivoyage had its own image
> repository, and we wanted to keep it, because it was much better organized
> than Commons, and we did not want other people to impose their rules and
> practices of "nominating everything for deletion" on images that we have
> carefully collected ourselves.
>
> Unfortunately, our request was ignored by the WMF, so yes, we are also in
> this strange thing that was supposed to be a common project, but is in fact
> run by a handful of people who believe that unjustified and well-hidden
> deletion requests are the best way to solve all problems. But it stinks,
> and we try to be as far from it as possible.
>
> Your experience of license review for WLM Bangladesh might be interesting
> if we would ever have time to do this. At the moment, I spend most of my
> free time on finding and fighting these well-hidden deletion requests.
> Thank you, my dear Commons community, for creating such a wonderful working
> environment.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alexander
>
>
>
> On 17.09.2016 11:32, Nahid Sultan wrote:
>
> Though it seems a bit odd but on a commons perspective it is also a normal
> procedure. Commons has a huge issue with people finding images online and
> then uploading them as their own work, so regular contributors on commons
> can sometimes be overzealous in making sure that people actually have the
> right to release what they are releasing. That is where the OTRS system
> comes in. Rather than complaining to the process could you please for once
> think that this is your project too and everyone in this together?
>
>
> We, from WLM Bangladesh team have created a work-board/list for such users
> who have problem with metadata, previously published same image on other
> media to make sure that they are actually own the copyright. we even
> created a hand book for reviewers explaining what to look during the review
> (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/WLM). So, every
> reviewer check for those mistakes when reviewing an image then if they
> found such problematic user they immediately contact them via email or talk
> page and list them on https://commons.wikimedia.
> org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/WLM/possible_copyright_problem.  It works for
> us.
>
> Best,
>
> Nahid Sultan
>
> User:NahidSultan <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan> on
> all Wikimedia Foundation
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation>'s public wikis
>
> Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh>
>
> Twitter: @nahidunlimited <https://twitter.com/nahidunlimited>
>
> http://blog.nahidsultan.xyz/
>
>
> --
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> behalf of Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com> <altsir...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons
>
> Now it is not only about Freedom of Panorama and non-free images.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_
> requests/Files_uploaded_by_VekaSpb

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Special Prizes in Austria on the "Day of the Monument"

2016-09-08 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for the update, Beppo!

Maybe it would be nice to share on the WLM blog (will have to consult)?
When is the day of the monuments?

Lodewijk

2016-09-08 14:11 GMT-07:00 Platonides <platoni...@gmail.com>:

> On 07/09/16 23:06, bepp...@gmx.at wrote:
>
>> Hello to all countries participating in WLM!
>> Congratulations to you for the successful start of Wiki Loves Monuments
>> in 2016.
>> In Austria we don't have the opportunity to run a full WLM competition
>> this year, because we already have pictures of 96 percent of the
>> monuments in the cultural heritage of our country. We almost completed
>> the lists of 37.000 protected monuments and many people say, we have
>> reached our goal and should try other things.
>> To maintain the idea of WLM (and our lists of monuments) we have a
>> little photo competition with special prizes around the Austrian "Day of
>> the Monument" in cooperation with the Federal Office for the Monuments.
>> The motto for this year's special prizes is "on the way together". We
>> hope to get photos of protected railroad infrastructure for example the
>> Semmeringbahn, mentioned on the UNESCO World Heritage List, and old
>> buildings on traditional roads.
>> I hope we can join the international WLM-Community again with another
>> one month photo competition next year.
>> Kind regards from
>> Beppo
>> (former WLM coordinator in Austria)
>>
>
> That's a happy reason not to participate, Beppo :)
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photo eligibility

2016-09-06 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

As this relates probably, I think it might be clear to clarify this
question from the perspective of the international jurying.

The method with which images are uploaded are to the international
competition not a blocker - the question is whether they have the correct
template (not the category!) on their pages. The template will also add the
category automatically. Also, it is important that the monument is properly
identified.

If people add this after upload, that is fine. But I would say they have to
do it before the end of the competition.

You can't add the template for them without their explicit permission,
because that would mean entering someone else into a competition they
didn't sign up for. That would not be a Good Thing :)

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-06 4:47 GMT-07:00 Nicu Buculei <nicub...@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Neville Borg wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a question regarding eligibility of photos - we are receiving many
> > photos (mostly from one user) for monuments that are on our list, but are
> > not uploaded through the WLM wizard. I suspect that this user is
> uploading
> > them to participate in WLM but is used to uploading pictures in a certain
> > manner and is unwilling to deviate from this.
> >
> > Are these photos still eligible, or are they to be ignored for the
> purpose
> > of the contest?
>
> Did you write on the rules for your national contest the photos must
> be uploaded with the wizard? Normally it shouldn't be the case (some
> people even use bots to upload their images).
> This particular user adds the relevant data for the contest? Meaning
> the monument identifier, the relevant categories, templates  and
> such...  if so, then the uploads should be eligible. If not, you can
> contact the uploader, inform about the mistakes and maybe offer a bit
> of help, is up to you.
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wikiloves tool issue

2016-09-03 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for reporting, Nahid. I created a phabricator task for this:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144669

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-09-03 15:50 GMT+02:00 Nahid Sultan <na...@wikimedia.org.bd>:

> To whom it may concern,
>
> The Wikiloves tool gives error when clicking on the 'number of uploader'
> & 'year' link from a specific country (ex. http://tools.wmflabs.org/
> wikiloves/country/Bangladesh).
>
>
> Current path: tools.wmflabs.org/monuments/2016/Bangladesh (gives error)
> Correct path: tools.wmflabs.org/wikiloves/monuments/2016/Bangladesh
>
>
> Current path: tools.wmflabs.org/monuments/2016  (gives error)
>
> Correct path: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiloves/monuments/2016
>
>
> Best,
>
> Nahid Sultan
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] monitoring your local contest

2016-09-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Olushola,

Please copy & paste the links, then it should work fine.

Lodewijk

2016-09-03 13:04 GMT+02:00 Olushola Olaniyan <olaniyanshol...@gmail.com>:

> Dear All
>
> Trust you are fine.
>
> Just want to know if i am the only one experiencing issue in reading from
> the links attached to this mail.
>
> Its seems they are not working.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> To the majority of our local organizers: Congratulations for launching
>> the WLM campaign in your country! You have now officially made it to the
>> second day of the contest. :) So far, we have received more than 5500
>> uploads from 415 uploaders, and almost half of the uploaders have
>> registered for an account after the competition has started. This is very
>> nice! Although not all of these newly registered uploaders are
>> necessarily newcomers, quite a few of them may well be! :)
>>
>> Since few people have asked this in the past 24 hours: There are many
>> tools, services, and tricks you can use/do to monitor your campaign. Here
>> are two of them:
>>
>> * If you are interested to watch the stream of recent changes in your
>> campaign, you can check it by going to
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked
>> /Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_Country
>> where Country is the name of the country you're interested in. (For
>> example, for Georgia, you can go to https://commons.wikimedia.o
>> rg/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Images_from_Wik
>> i_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_Georgia
>>
>> * If you are interested in some overall and country-specific statistics,
>> you can use https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiloves/monuments or
>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiloves/monuments/2016 .
>>
>> * And while you're monitoring your contest and uploaded photos, if you
>> see there are pictures that have missing categories or don't have all the
>> right categories, please add those. Adding the right categories can help
>> with the discovery of these images later on.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please use this guide
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Who%27s_who#Need_help.3F>
>> to learn where to ask your question. If your question is urgent, please
>> reach out to Romaine or myself on Google Chat/Hangout or freenode IRC
>> channel #wikilovesmonuments.
>>
>> Good luck! :)
>> Leila, on behalf of the WLM international team
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Press & Media

2016-09-01 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

As I noticed that some press mentions are being shared randomly, I created
like in the past years two pages that may be relevant:

- A page for the press to find a contact person easily in their country.
please add your press spokesperson or a link to that information here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Media
- A collection of media publications about Wiki Loves Monuments 2016.
Please include any stories leading up to the competition, also if it's
several months old. Any languages are welcome. For the first country to
add: please remove the example country :) Thanks! It's fun to read each
others' stories, and also inspiring:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Press_mentions

Best,
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Country wise stats for WLM

2016-08-31 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Nahid,

I suspect it will have to be altered a bit, and will not work until there's
something to show :)

Lets see what happens in the coming days. For now, enjoy the stats from
previous years ;-)

Lodewijk

2016-08-31 18:04 GMT+02:00 Nahid Sultan <na...@wikimedia.org.bd>:

> Hi,
> I just wonder if the country wise statistics in http://stats.
> wikilovesmonuments.cl/ still works. I've tried http://stats.
> wikilovesmonuments.cl/Bangladesh but it gives me error. My understanding
> is that it will work when the contest start and the function found files to
> show.
>
> Best,
>
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>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Upload pages

2016-08-30 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Romaine,

I'm not sure we're talking all about the same thing. Yaroslav says he
/will/ update the page as good as he can. Which I'm thankful for. If more
data is added later, that would be great.

Also, we were talking about the number of portal pages. On one hand there's
the organisational pages, which are to update information etc. I understand
that you prefer not to have a one-page-to-rule-them-all approach. However,
I do think that it's better to have at least a single place where we send
participants. (this was the point I was trying to make)

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-08-30 18:58 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>:

> Useless!
>
> You miss at least 50% of the data, it would be much better if people tried
> to complete the missing data first, so it will be easy for me to add the
> data soon when all is available.
>
>
>
> 2016-08-30 18:44 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>:
>
>> Lily писал 2016-08-30 18:30:
>>
>>> Romaine, I see your point, but having a page with incomplete/incorrect
>>> information is also a problem. The page Lodewijk has linked to is
>>> about 2015 (per the right-hand-side column) and the list of countries
>>> in it is not complete. It can be confusing for people if they land on
>>> that page. I understand that you have a lot on your plate, I'd say if
>>> someone has bandwidth to fix that page, they should feel free to.
>>>
>>> Leila
>>>
>>>
>> Doing this, should be done today. I am only going to add the countries
>> which are confirmed; it would be good if one of the crganizers
>> double-checks tomorrow.
>>
>> Yaroslav
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Please create a list of all twitter accounts related to WLM

2016-08-28 Thread Lodewijk
I created the list with relevant official WLM accounts here:
https://twitter.com/wikimonuments/lists/wiki-loves-monuments
This way more people can edit/improve it.

I found ~21, maybe missed a few still.

Lodewijk

2016-08-28 12:08 GMT+02:00 Nahid Sultan <na...@wikimedia.org.bd>:

> Nemo,
> There wasn't but I just created one from the contact of each country's
> page. However, the list is incomplete : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/
> Microblogging_handles#Wiki_loves_monuments_handles
>
> I've also created the list in twitter from @WLMBangladesh 's  twitter
> handle can be found in here at: https://twitter.com/
> WLMBangladesh/lists/wlm-accounts/members
>
>
> Best,
>
> Nahid Sultan
>
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> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation>'s public wikis
>
> Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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>
> Nahid Sultan, 27/08/2016 22:40:
> > Could someone with the access to @wikimonuments twitter handle please
> > create a list of all WLM related twitter accounts? That would be really
> > useful.
>
> Are these already all listed on
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microblogging_handles ?
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Posters

2016-08-24 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Neville,

did you check out the subcategories in
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_for_Wiki_Loves_Monuments
?

Not exactly sure what you're looking for, but I suspect there's something
to your liking.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-08-24 9:30 GMT+02:00 Neville Borg <neville.b...@wikimalta.org>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We (WLM Malta) are trying to develop some sort of promotional poster to
> promote WLM through social media, but since we don't have a designer as
> part of our team we are struggling slightly with the visual design - is
> there anybody who would be willing to share any posters they may have used,
> or perhaps some sort of editable template that we could potentially build
> upon?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for suggestions for the international jury

2016-08-18 Thread Lodewijk
Hey John,



2016-08-18 12:02 GMT+02:00 john cummings <mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Lodewijk
>
> Some questions:
>
>1. What is the time period for judging? I assume October some time?
>
> October is the time period for the national organisers. The plan is to
have judging take place 'over a period of 3 weeks in November'.

>
>1. Based on previous experience how many hours work do you think the
>juror would need to take part? It would be very useful when asking people
>to give them an estimate of the number of hours you are asking them to work
>on this.
>
> It's reviewing 200-500 photos over three rounds in a rating system. It
highly depends on the person how much time they would spend on it, but I
would be surprised if they would spend more than 8-10 hours on it. It also
includes a little reading up, explaining and discussing the edge cases.

>
>1. Is an international jury member required to put a rating and
>comment by all the 300-500 images or could they for instance add a rating
>to their favorite 50 images?
>
> There is a three round system. First they are asked to rate all pictures,
1-5 stars. Then we allow jury members to 'veto' an image (say it's
unworthy) and if a few members agree, we remove it from the selection. Then
we have a bit of discussions about the top-40/50, and from that top
selection, they are asked to rank their favorite 25 and add a comment.

>
>1. I know that WLM held the Guinness World Record for largest
>photography competition in the world, is this still true? This would be a
>helpful fact to bring up when encouraging people to be judges.
>
> Yes, it is still recognised
<http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-photography-competition/>
as the world's largest photography contest by GWR.

Hope that clarifies!

Best,
Lodewijk


> Thanks very much
>
> John
>
>
> On 18 August 2016 at 11:18, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Like every year, we need to put together a good jury for Wiki Loves
>> Monuments 2016. It is a complicated and delicate process to come to a
>> balanced jury, and I would like to outline the criteria here, and to ask
>> for your input. I have agreed to take the lead on this process - but would
>> definitely welcome your input, and help.
>>
>> As in the past years, I think it is important to aim once again for a
>> jury that as a whole is neutral and balanced in many ways. This means
>> ideally:
>> * A mix of photography experts, heritage experts and Wikimedia experts
>> (aiming at a total size of 7-9)
>> * Geographically balanced so that no two jury members come from the same
>> country.
>> * Balance in many other ways imaginable (while at the same time, one can
>> never assure a balance in all aspects)
>> * The international jury members do not serve on a national jury for WLM
>>
>> At the same time, there are some practical considerations:
>> * Jury members must be able to write and read English
>> * They must have the time to commit to judge 200-500 photos in three
>> rounds over a period of 3 weeks in November
>> * While jury members can participate in a local competition, their
>> photos cannot participate in the international finale
>> * Jury members should not participate in any national jury for 2016
>> (previous years is OK)
>> * It would be helpful if the juror would be willing to share their real
>> name for the jury report.
>> * Jury work is in a volunteer capacity.
>>
>> Do you know someone who would make a good juror, please contact me
>> privately with the suggestion. At least let me know who the juror is, how I
>> could contact him/her and why they would make a good jurymember (and
>> whether you have reason to believe they would accept the nomination, if
>> asked).
>>
>> I will do my best to put together once again a qualified and diverse jury,
>> with your help!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>> (international jury coordinator, WLM 2016)
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for suggestions for the international jury

2016-08-18 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

Like every year, we need to put together a good jury for Wiki Loves
Monuments 2016. It is a complicated and delicate process to come to a
balanced jury, and I would like to outline the criteria here, and to ask
for your input. I have agreed to take the lead on this process - but would
definitely welcome your input, and help.

As in the past years, I think it is important to aim once again for a jury that
as a whole is neutral and balanced in many ways. This means ideally:
* A mix of photography experts, heritage experts and Wikimedia experts
(aiming at a total size of 7-9)
* Geographically balanced so that no two jury members come from the same
country.
* Balance in many other ways imaginable (while at the same time, one can
never assure a balance in all aspects)
* The international jury members do not serve on a national jury for WLM

At the same time, there are some practical considerations:
* Jury members must be able to write and read English
* They must have the time to commit to judge 200-500 photos in three rounds
over a period of 3 weeks in November
* While jury members can participate in a local competition, their photos
cannot participate in the international finale
* Jury members should not participate in any national jury for 2016
(previous years is OK)
* It would be helpful if the juror would be willing to share their real
name for the jury report.
* Jury work is in a volunteer capacity.

Do you know someone who would make a good juror, please contact me
privately with the suggestion. At least let me know who the juror is, how I
could contact him/her and why they would make a good jurymember (and
whether you have reason to believe they would accept the nomination, if
asked).

I will do my best to put together once again a qualified and diverse jury,
with your help!

Thank you in advance!

Best,
Lodewijk
(international jury coordinator, WLM 2016)
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] monuments without official list

2016-08-17 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Johnattan,

Typically, countries follow the official list - which will never be
perfect. In some countries this is particularly sensitive, because it
represents a specific period in the history.

There are a few approaches you could take, but none are real solutions. I
would myself totally not be in favor of just 'adding monuments to the
list'. Only in the case of a technical/clerical error, I would suggest to
do that. But this sounds more like you disagree with the government on what
the definition should be.

What they did in South Africa, if I recall correctly, was to create a
separate list, where people could make suggestions for buildings to be
recognised as monument - a list they would pass on to the government at the
end of the competition. You could even ask people to submit photos for
that, but those would - I think - be out of competition.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-08-17 10:35 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>:

> Johnattan Rupire писал 2016-08-17 06:15:
>
>> HI all,
>> What we can do with the monuments that aren't in the authorities list
>> for low coverage from government? There are a decision about this from
>> International team? some advices? I think here we have many monuments in
>> many government list. How you do with these kind of monuments?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>
> Every team decides what they want to do. In Russia, for example, the
> official database is buggy and incomplete, and we are adding many monuments
> to the lists by hand (and also removing some which are included multiple
> times).
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update from wlm Perú

2016-08-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Jonattan,

That sounds like great progress indeed! Glad to hear you have such
productive contacts with the ministry.

We were also able to get an image donation by the Dutch national heritage
authority (comparable with your ministry, I think) and we learned that it
is probably a good idea to do this donation /after/ Wiki Loves Monuments.
Because if you announce a big image donation, the incentive to submit
photos (by participants) is lower. That has as benefit that you do not have
to hurry, and can postpone the donation until after the competition is
finished.

A photographer from the ministry in your jury sounds like a very good idea!

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-08-11 5:03 GMT+02:00 Johnattan Rupire <jarja...@riseup.net>:

> Hi all!
>
> yesterday I was in a meeting with a representant from Culture Ministry
> in his office. We talked about the possible participation of this
> Ministry through Qhapac Ñan Project Office in WLMPerú2016 and we have a
> many signals to think this will be materialized this year. I have a hope
> about this.
>
> They showed me an official map for material heritage in Perú [1],
> specially arqueological, monuments and areas. They say we can use this
> information to wlmPeru2016.
>
> After export this data [2], and with a first look, some monuments dont
> have geo code to located it. So, I ask to OpenStreetMap community here
> to comparate data bases and look it for geodata missed. I think there
> are so many monuments that not be in these lists.
>
> I asked them to participate as jury with a member and they suggest a
> Professional Photographer from Ministry who has made many pictures for
> their projects. In this point I suggest a looking for a some way to
> release some (or all) pictures from their data base. Maybe some of you
> have an experience in this task? I mean, in a data release from
> gubernamental office to wikipedia? I would like to propose them a simple
> way to do it and share with they some arguments to do this in a public
> way that inspire some others offices. I'm looking for a meeting with
> Education Ministry ...
>
> So, we have a direct way to coordinate his participation in wlmPeru2016
> and they are waiting for some feedback from us to do it.
> Next week we have another meeting, we hope arrive it with many questions
> and proposals.
>
> This is all for this moment.
>
> Best
>
> [1] http://sigda.cultura.gob.pe/
> [2]
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3xs7-HKTSUudEFwWDdDN2NobjQ=
> sharing
>
>
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Pakistan

2016-08-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Saqib,

I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What
is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible
heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what
you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.

Best,
Lodewijk



2016-08-03 18:43 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qay...@hotmail.com>:

> Dear all,
>
> I am saqib from Wikimedia Pakistan.
>
> We in Pakistan would like to broaden the scope of this years WLM Pakistan
> and would accept both tangible and intangible cultural heritage photos. For
> the purpose, we would need to run the contest for at-least 2 months
> starting this week.
>
> Can we run the contest for 2 months?
> Saqib
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] unique identifier for the monument

2016-07-19 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Olanian,

maybe it would help if you could share what definition of 'monument' you're
planning to use? That could give us some insight, and make answering
easier.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-07-19 19:27 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com>:

> + André
>
> Hi all,
>
> Below you can find my comments:
>
> *Brazil*
> Juliana, it is okay for your monuments to belong to multiple lists. In
> your case, you can create three top level entry points for lists by the 
> National
> Institute of Cultural Heritage Preservation, the States and the
> Municipalities. This way, participants may have multiple entry points to a
> single monument, which is fine. :) This being said, please document this
> clearly, as when the data is going to be transferred to Wikidata, we may
> need to be aware of this.
>
> *Ukraine*
> Vira, this is an important question and something we should address with
> the Wikidata community. :) André works on transitioning the data to
> Wikidata and it would be great to hear his thoughts here.
>
> *Nigeria*
> Shola, you are already being helped by others which is great. :) Three
> more things to share:
>
> 1) Please make sure that there is no official monument ID. If you have
> doubts, please ask a bit more. It's best for us to use the official numbers
> when they exist. :)
>
> 2) You can read about the use of unique identifiers and how to define them
> here
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Lists_of_monuments#What_to_keep_in_mind_with_creating_a_list_of_monuments.3F>.
> That link refers to the same link Vicenç mentioned earlier and it tells
> you a bit more as well.
>
> 3) In the case of Nigeria, my suggestion is for you to wait for Romaine to
> work with you to create the lists on Wikipedia (Follow up at
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140583). After that, I'd like us to
> have a discussion with André to see what the best way to create IDs for
> Nigeria is. We used to recommend creating IDs to countries when no official
> monument ID existed, however, now that Wikidata is more present in our
> ecosystem, it's not clear that we should do that. We may want to create the
> lists on Wikipedia first, make sure that each monument on the list has a
> corresponding item in Wikidata, and then potentially use that Wikidata item
> number as the unique ID for the monument.
>
> Cheers,
> Leila
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Vicenç <vriul...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It deppends on your source. If it is published you can use something
>> useful for your reference, like "source identifier"-"page number"-"monument
>> order within the page". If it is hard the construct an unique identifier,
>> you can add a preffix with subdivisions codes like
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:NG
>>
>>
>> In Wikipedia this is considered original research, so try to make it as
>> close as possible to a reference system.
>>
>>
>> Vicenç
>>
>>
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>> *Enviat el:* dimarts, 19 de juliol de 2016 16:22
>> *Per a:* Mārtiņš Bruņenieks; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>> *Tema:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] unique identifier for the monument
>>
>> That's cool!
>>
>> It's there a standard way of numbering?
>>
>> I will appreciate if anyone on the platform can help me with it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> Director, Wikimedia UG Nigeria
>> Project Lead, Wiki Loves Women
>> Treasurer, FOSSFA
>> MD, Olbims Consulting (ERP Consultant)
>> Phone: +2348154876844|2348167352512
>> Email: olaniyanshol...@gmail.com
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>> |treasu...@fossfa.net
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>> User: Olaniyan Olushola
>> Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
>> Twitter :Oluwanishola73
>>
>> *From: *Mārtiņš Bruņenieks
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:19 PM
>> *To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>> *Reply To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] unique identifier for the monument
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> You should invent an identifyer yourself so that later you can match
>> these with official lists when they are published.
>>
>>  Mārtiņš
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Olushola Olaniyan <
>> olaniyanshol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In Nigeria, majority of the museums are 

[Wiki Loves Monuments] unique identifier for the monument

2016-07-19 Thread Lodewijk
(starting a new thread, that way it's easier to find)

the identifier of a monument usually originates from the 'authority' (the
government, usually). There are some good examples here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Lists_of_monuments


If that doesn't answer your question, please let us know!

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-07-19 10:32 GMT+02:00 Olushola Olaniyan <olaniyanshol...@gmail.com>:

> Great!!!
>
> One of the questions that I need this platform to answer for us is in the
> area of ID for monument.
>
> Where does the ID comes from, is it the  WLM or from the originating
> country of the monuments.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> Olaniyan Olushola
> Director, Wikimedia UG Nigeria
> Project Lead, Wiki Loves Women
> Treasurer, FOSSFA
> MD, Olbims Consulting (ERP Consultant)
> Phone: +2348154876844|2348167352512
> Email: olaniyanshol...@gmail.com
> olaniyansh...@yahoo.com
> |treasu...@fossfa.net
> olush...@wikiloveswomen.org
> User: Olaniyan Olushola
> Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
> Twitter :Oluwanishola73
>
> *From: *Lodewijk
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:25 AM
> *To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> *Reply To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> *Subject: *Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] From Perú, first WLM 2016
>
> Glad to see participation from both Nigeria and Peru! I hope you'll feel
> welcome to ask any questions you have on this mailing list - we have a
> bunch of experienced organisers from a wide range of countries here, so
> many may have dealt with similar issues.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
> (former member & organiser in the international team)
>
> 2016-07-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Wow :)
>> Welcome!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>>
>> 2016-07-19 9:03 GMT+03:00 Olushola Olaniyan <olaniyanshol...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> ‎Hi Everyone
>>>
>>> This is to thank WLM team especially Leila  for contacting us and also
>>> provide needed information for our participation.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is our first time of participation and we wish to make it count
>>> with marvelous works.
>>>
>>> We are here to learn.
>>>
>>> Best Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Olaniyan Olushola
>>> Director, Wikimedia UG Nigeria
>>> Project Lead, Wiki Loves Women
>>> Treasurer, FOSSFA
>>> MD, Olbims Consulting (ERP Consultant)
>>> Phone: +2348154876844|2348167352512
>>> Email: olaniyanshol...@gmail.com
>>> olaniyansh...@yahoo.com
>>> |treasu...@fossfa.net
>>> olush...@wikiloveswomen.org
>>> User: Olaniyan Olushola
>>> Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
>>> Twitter :Oluwanishola73
>>>
>>>   Original Message
>>> From: Johnattan Rupire
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:36 AM
>>> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>>> Reply To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>>> Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] From Perú, first WLM 2016
>>>
>>> Hi erevyone,
>>> I want introduce me on this list and send to you many greatins from
>>> Perú, this is our first year in WLM and I want to work in it! we are
>>> starting a coordination group to do this.
>>>
>>> I hope have more information to share with you soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot to Leila, from international team, who made contact with me
>>> abut this and invited me to this list.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Txolo is my username on Wikipedia
>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] From Perú, first WLM 2016

2016-07-19 Thread Lodewijk
Glad to see participation from both Nigeria and Peru! I hope you'll feel
welcome to ask any questions you have on this mailing list - we have a
bunch of experienced organisers from a wide range of countries here, so
many may have dealt with similar issues.

Best,
Lodewijk
(former member & organiser in the international team)

2016-07-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com>:

> Wow :)
> Welcome!
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>
> 2016-07-19 9:03 GMT+03:00 Olushola Olaniyan <olaniyanshol...@gmail.com>:
>
>> ‎Hi Everyone
>>
>> This is to thank WLM team especially Leila  for contacting us and also
>> provide needed information for our participation.
>>
>>
>> This is our first time of participation and we wish to make it count with
>> marvelous works.
>>
>> We are here to learn.
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> Olaniyan Olushola
>> Director, Wikimedia UG Nigeria
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>> Treasurer, FOSSFA
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>> Phone: +2348154876844|2348167352512
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>> User: Olaniyan Olushola
>> Facebook: Olaniyan Shola
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>>
>>   Original Message
>> From: Johnattan Rupire
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:36 AM
>> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>> Reply To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
>> Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] From Perú, first WLM 2016
>>
>> Hi erevyone,
>> I want introduce me on this list and send to you many greatins from
>> Perú, this is our first year in WLM and I want to work in it! we are
>> starting a coordination group to do this.
>>
>> I hope have more information to share with you soon.
>>
>> Thanks a lot to Leila, from international team, who made contact with me
>> abut this and invited me to this list.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Txolo is my username on Wikipedia
>>
>> --
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>> @johnarupire
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Guinness World Record?

2016-07-14 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Juliana,

That would be an interesting approach! Please do check if they would be
interested. Did you do something like this before (with so many different
images, we'd be talking about a huge storage capacity - much more than a
few banners/photos on repeat... so I'd be curious if their soft/hardware
could handle it.

Nemo: I think we'd be talking about all WLM 2016 photos, so that would be
more around 200-300k photos (I hope), and at the earliest in
November/December.

Any other people willing to work on this follow-up project?

Lodewijk

2016-07-14 21:58 GMT+02:00 Juliana Monteiro <julianamonteir...@gmail.com>:

> Hello all,
>
> That would be great to try a digital photo exhibition. After this e-mail,
> the Wikimedian Brazilian Group of Education and Research is thinking about
> trying to organize something here - maybe inside the subway stations.
> Let´s keep in touch!
> Best regards,
> Juliana
>
> 2016-07-14 9:56 GMT-03:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> A few years ago, we managed to set the world record for the largest
>> photography competition in the world, according to the Guinness Book of
>> World Records. We still hold this record with our 2012 competition
>> <http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-photography-competition/>
>> .
>>
>> I was thinking, as a little bonus on WLM 2016, would it be nice to try
>> and break another record? The competition will be hard to break if I look
>> at our previous submissions, but there is another record that might be
>> interesting: the largest digital photo exhibition
>> <http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/29046-largest-digital-photo-exhibition>.
>> The record currently stands at 115,117 and seems breakable.
>>
>> Based on what I read, this might be a bunch of LED screens all displaying
>> a slide show of photos at a publicly accessible place. We could do this
>> during some kind of event, and simply show all WLM submissions from the
>> international competition.
>>
>> Anyway, is there anyone, or a chapter/local team that would like to
>> consider organising something like this? If we want, we could even make it
>> a 'travelling' exhibition. It would require a lot of screens, a nice
>> occasion to display them, a bit of software to show the photos and
>> collecting evidence.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Guinness World Record?

2016-07-14 Thread Lodewijk
Hey folks,

A few years ago, we managed to set the world record for the largest
photography competition in the world, according to the Guinness Book of
World Records. We still hold this record with our 2012 competition
<http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-photography-competition/>
.

I was thinking, as a little bonus on WLM 2016, would it be nice to try and
break another record? The competition will be hard to break if I look at
our previous submissions, but there is another record that might be
interesting: the largest digital photo exhibition
<http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/29046-largest-digital-photo-exhibition>.
The record currently stands at 115,117 and seems breakable.

Based on what I read, this might be a bunch of LED screens all displaying a
slide show of photos at a publicly accessible place. We could do this
during some kind of event, and simply show all WLM submissions from the
international competition.

Anyway, is there anyone, or a chapter/local team that would like to
consider organising something like this? If we want, we could even make it
a 'travelling' exhibition. It would require a lot of screens, a nice
occasion to display them, a bit of software to show the photos and
collecting evidence.

Best,
Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] wiki love monuments application for andriode and IOS

2016-07-05 Thread Lodewijk
Digging in my memory: The app was quite helpful, but it was a lot of work
to build, iirc. And for the amount of work, it was not used/downloaded
often enough to make it worth the while, I think the evaluation was. But
Yuvi can probably say more helpful things on that (in cc)

The app (as a concept) relies heavily on the geo coordinates to be known -
and therefore only will be helpful in countries with those coordinates in
the database.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-07-05 22:14 GMT+02:00 Jean-Frédéric <jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com>:

> (Email from the past!)
>
> By curiosity I investigated this.
>
>> Does it perhaps still look for the database on the toolserver?
>>
> That appears to be the case. I have opened
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139422 for this.
>
> (Should we care about this app anyway?)
> --
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Exciting plans to share on wikilovesmonuments.org?

2016-06-30 Thread Lodewijk
Hey folks,

Tomorrow I'll be posting a blog post about the wiki loves monuments
exhibition at Wikimania, and I thought this might be a nice opportunity to
ask if anyone else would like to share a story at the international blog.
If you'd like to do this, please get in touch with someone from the
international team or me. Unless someone tells me otherwise, I'll just be
bold in accepting stories :)

Try to make it interesting to the world, make it visual etc. For example,
I'd love to see a story about the Belgian freedom of panorama as soon as
that becomes effective - we could talk a little on how also more recent
Belgian buildings can now be photographed. But I can imagine more countries
wanting to share their successes, or what they're planning this year? Or
perhaps a few monuments under threat?

Anyway, be creative, and get in touch. If you doubt if your topic is good
for the blog, just email this list.

Best,
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Import spring monument lists into nbsp; nbsp; nbsp; nbsp; Wikidata

2016-06-20 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for the explanation! Good to hear of the expansion, always exciting.

The idea of the import sprint was to use the availability of the people at
wikimania to our advantage to work away part of the lists that are
available, using local knowledge. But also after Wikimania, people could
still get in touch with John, and the idea is to get as many monument lists
as possible on Wikidata! The drive won't go away after it.

John, maybe we can set up a list somewhere (if it doesn't exist yet) of all
the sources, so that importing becomes easier that way?

Lodewijk

2016-06-20 22:09 GMT+02:00 Rodrigo Padula <rodrigopad...@wikimedia.org.br>:

> Hello Lodewijk
>
> Juliana is now part of our team and she is interested to help us to
> improve the currently list of Monuments.
>
> Last year we added only Monuments registered by the federal government.
>
> Juliana is trying to update our lists with Monuments registered by some
> Brazilian States and cities departments.
> Best regards
>
> Rodrigo Padula
> Coordenador de Projetos
> Grupo Wikimedia Brasileiro de Educação e Pesquisa
> http://www,wikimedia.org.br
> 21 99326-0558
>
>
>  On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:01:01 -0300 * lodew...@effeietsanders.org
> <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> * wrote 
>
> Hi Juliana,
>
> Glad to see you're on board with the Brazilian group. Are you in touch
> already with the people who organised WLM in Brasil last year
> <https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Brasil>?
> I assume you are. I can't really figure out what is the source for the
> monument lists displayed there, and some help in describing that might
> indeed be helpful.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2016-06-20 19:35 GMT+02:00 Juliana Monteiro <julianamonteir...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> My  name  is Juliana Monteiro and I am from São Paulo, Brazil. I work as a
> collection manager at the Immigration Museum of the State of São Paulo and
> my job involves to help the museum to work with Wikimedia Projects,
> especially the Commons. Not so long ago, I have started to colaborate as a
> volunteer with the Brazilian Wikimedia Group of Research and Education, in
> order to kickoff of some GLAM Projects.
>
> So, after reading the messages below, I would like to know if it is
> possible to colaborate from Brazil (due to time zones etc) - and, if it is,
> what I could do.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Juliana
>
>
> 2016-06-20 13:36 GMT-03:00 Estermann Beat <beat.esterm...@bfh.ch>:
>
> Hi Lodewijk,
>
>
>
> As far as the Swiss monuments lists are concerned, I’m happy to assist
> remotely during the Esino Lario Hackathon or in person the week after at
> the Swiss Open Cultural Data Hackathon (
> http://make.opendata.ch/wiki/event:2016-07).
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Beat
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* WikiLovesMonuments [mailto:
> wikilovesmonuments-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Lodewijk
> *Sent:* Freitag, 17. Juni 2016 22:57
> *To:* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition;
> wlm-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Cc:* John Andersson (john.anders...@wikimedia.se)
> *Subject:* [Wiki Loves Monuments] Import spring monument lists into
> Wikidata
>
>
>
> Hi all!
>
>
>
> As many of you may be aware, Wikimedia Sweden is working on getting the
> monument data to Wikidata. At the hackathon
> <https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon/Program>before
> Wikimania, we would like to do an import sprint, where you as experts on
> your local heritage can help them out to get the monument lists imported!
>
>
>
> Please do indicate your interest both here and on Phabricator:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137457
>
>
>
> The room will be announced later, but it will take place either way in
> Esino Lario, at the primary school on Wednesday 22 June.
>
>
>
> Both coders and wikidata wizards who would like to help with the import,
> as people who know their heritage lists well, and want to help us out
> understand the data better are very welcome!
>
>
>
> If you have any questions, just shoot!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Lodewijk
>
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>
>
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>
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> Museóloga
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> Profa. curso técnico de Museologia -- ETEC Parque da Juventude
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Import spring monument lists into Wikidata

2016-06-20 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Juliana,

Glad to see you're on board with the Brazilian group. Are you in touch
already with the people who organised WLM in Brasil last year
<https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Brasil>?
I assume you are. I can't really figure out what is the source for the
monument lists displayed there, and some help in describing that might
indeed be helpful.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-06-20 19:35 GMT+02:00 Juliana Monteiro <julianamonteir...@gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> My  name  is Juliana Monteiro and I am from São Paulo, Brazil. I work as a
> collection manager at the Immigration Museum of the State of São Paulo and
> my job involves to help the museum to work with Wikimedia Projects,
> especially the Commons. Not so long ago, I have started to colaborate as a
> volunteer with the Brazilian Wikimedia Group of Research and Education, in
> order to kickoff of some GLAM Projects.
>
> So, after reading the messages below, I would like to know if it is
> possible to colaborate from Brazil (due to time zones etc) - and, if it is,
> what I could do.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Juliana
>
>
> 2016-06-20 13:36 GMT-03:00 Estermann Beat <beat.esterm...@bfh.ch>:
>
>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as the Swiss monuments lists are concerned, I’m happy to assist
>> remotely during the Esino Lario Hackathon or in person the week after at
>> the Swiss Open Cultural Data Hackathon (
>> http://make.opendata.ch/wiki/event:2016-07).
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Beat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* WikiLovesMonuments [mailto:
>> wikilovesmonuments-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Lodewijk
>> *Sent:* Freitag, 17. Juni 2016 22:57
>> *To:* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition;
>> wlm-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> *Cc:* John Andersson (john.anders...@wikimedia.se)
>> *Subject:* [Wiki Loves Monuments] Import spring monument lists into
>> Wikidata
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>>
>>
>> As many of you may be aware, Wikimedia Sweden is working on getting the
>> monument data to Wikidata. At the hackathon
>> <https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon/Program>before
>> Wikimania, we would like to do an import sprint, where you as experts on
>> your local heritage can help them out to get the monument lists imported!
>>
>>
>>
>> Please do indicate your interest both here and on Phabricator:
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137457
>>
>>
>>
>> The room will be announced later, but it will take place either way in
>> Esino Lario, at the primary school on Wednesday 22 June.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both coders and wikidata wizards who would like to help with the import,
>> as people who know their heritage lists well, and want to help us out
>> understand the data better are very welcome!
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions, just shoot!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
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> Museóloga
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> Profa. curso técnico de Museologia -- ETEC Parque da Juventude
>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Import spring monument lists into Wikidata

2016-06-17 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all!

As many of you may be aware, Wikimedia Sweden is working on getting the
monument data to Wikidata. At the hackathon
<https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon/Program>before
Wikimania, we would like to do an import sprint, where you as experts on
your local heritage can help them out to get the monument lists imported!

Please do indicate your interest both here and on Phabricator:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137457

The room will be announced later, but it will take place either way in
Esino Lario, at the primary school on Wednesday 22 June.

Both coders and wikidata wizards who would like to help with the import, as
people who know their heritage lists well, and want to help us out
understand the data better are very welcome!

If you have any questions, just shoot!

Best,

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] wanted: European heritage enthusiasts with a feel for social media

2016-04-12 Thread Lodewijk
probably best to ask Wolter, who I included in cc originally.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia <ecem...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> do you know whether Hispania Nostra (the representative of Europa Nostra
> in Spain) is involved in this effort?
>
>   // M.A.
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Our partner Europa Nostra is looking for volunteers for their social
>> media network, who would like to work on promoting cultural heritage in
>> their country through social media. I can imagine that there are some
>> potential enthusiasts in our Wiki Loves Monuments circles :)
>>
>> Please find below the call for volunteers by Wolter Braamhorst at Europa
>> Nostra with more details.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Europa Nostra is initiating a new participatory programme, called Social
>> Media Volunteers for Heritage. Our partner for this programme is
>> European Heritage Volunteers. The programme is part of our long term
>> project 'Mainstreaming Heritage' which is supported under the Creative
>> Europe programme of the European Union.
>>
>> We hope this project is of interest to you and your network. I would
>> appreciate it highly if you could inform colleagues and friends about this
>> new initiative and I hope many of them will be tempted to get involved.
>>
>> Let me first tell you more about what we planning to do. Social Media
>> Volunteers for Heritage are volunteers who work digitally to further the
>> cause and the message of the European heritage world through a variety of
>> social media. These volunteers publish – remotely from their own location –
>> stories, photos and videos on cultural heritage issues in their own country
>> and follow the media of their colleagues in other countries as well as of
>> Europa Nostra and European Heritage Volunteers. The Social Media Volunteers
>> for Heritage network will not strictly be an Europa Nostra activity, it
>> will exist outside of our web environment.
>>
>> What are we looking for? In our opinion, civil society social media
>> volunteers should be marathon runners, in it for the long run with a
>> positive message, geared towards solutions and opportunities, tailored to
>> the intended audiences. We need multi-taskers who look at subjects
>> objectively, who want to tell and share stories, who are enthusiastic about
>> the heritage in their own country and across Europe.
>>
>> We are looking to create a reliable European network of volunteers, at
>> least one in each European country, to be the ears and eyes of Europe's
>> heritage community. A kick-off meeting will be held in Weimar, Germany at
>> the end of August with the selected candidates.
>>
>> The Social Media Volunteers for Heritage will be selected by Europa Nosta
>> and European Heritage Volunteers on the basis of an on-line application
>> form, which you can find *HERE
>> <https://form.jotformeu.com/60342977749368>*
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Wolter Braamhorst
>>
>> Social Media Volunteers for Heritage Project
>>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] wanted: European heritage enthusiasts with a feel for social media

2016-04-12 Thread Lodewijk
Hi everyone!

Our partner Europa Nostra is looking for volunteers for their social media
network, who would like to work on promoting cultural heritage in their
country through social media. I can imagine that there are some potential
enthusiasts in our Wiki Loves Monuments circles :)

Please find below the call for volunteers by Wolter Braamhorst at Europa
Nostra with more details.

Best,

Lodewijk



Dear all,

Europa Nostra is initiating a new participatory programme, called Social
Media Volunteers for Heritage. Our partner for this programme is European
Heritage Volunteers. The programme is part of our long term project
'Mainstreaming Heritage' which is supported under the Creative Europe
programme of the European Union.

We hope this project is of interest to you and your network. I would
appreciate it highly if you could inform colleagues and friends about this
new initiative and I hope many of them will be tempted to get involved.

Let me first tell you more about what we planning to do. Social Media
Volunteers for Heritage are volunteers who work digitally to further the
cause and the message of the European heritage world through a variety of
social media. These volunteers publish – remotely from their own location –
stories, photos and videos on cultural heritage issues in their own country
and follow the media of their colleagues in other countries as well as of
Europa Nostra and European Heritage Volunteers. The Social Media Volunteers
for Heritage network will not strictly be an Europa Nostra activity, it
will exist outside of our web environment.

What are we looking for? In our opinion, civil society social media
volunteers should be marathon runners, in it for the long run with a
positive message, geared towards solutions and opportunities, tailored to
the intended audiences. We need multi-taskers who look at subjects
objectively, who want to tell and share stories, who are enthusiastic about
the heritage in their own country and across Europe.

We are looking to create a reliable European network of volunteers, at
least one in each European country, to be the ears and eyes of Europe's
heritage community. A kick-off meeting will be held in Weimar, Germany at
the end of August with the selected candidates.

The Social Media Volunteers for Heritage will be selected by Europa Nosta
and European Heritage Volunteers on the basis of an on-line application
form, which you can find *HERE <https://form.jotformeu.com/60342977749368>*

All the best,

Wolter Braamhorst

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-12 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks!

This is it:

Wiki Loves Monuments is a photography competition, organised for the sixth
time in 2015, and has now collected over 1,5 million photos of monuments
across the world. There are major differences in the national approaches
towards cultural heritage, and volunteers organising the competition face
different challenges across the world. Sometimes getting the lists of
monuments is the main challenge, other times it is a legal, cultural or
geographical challenge. We hope to continue spreading enthusiasm for free
knowledge and cultural heritage across the world, and make information
about cultural heritage available across the world.

*Russia* – Russia faces major challenges in its internal diversity and vast
geographic distances. Last year, Russian organizers boosted geographical
coverage by launching a separate prize for the maximum number of visited
regions. Two participants traveled each thousands of kilometers through the
whole country to cover 30 of Russia’s 81 regions, from the Amber Coast to
the Pacific Coast and from the Arctic Ocean to the Black Sea. One of the
winners, Evgeny Lazarev, told us that his 1298 photos were an outcome of
his frequent traveling by car over the last 6 years.

*Italy* - No other country had more photographers participating to the 2015
contest and the contributed photos are accessed millions of times each
month on Wikimedia sites alone. But this did not come easily – besides a
lot of effort by volunteers, staff and 320 official partners, some legal
challenges had to be overcome. Participants could only take photos of
Pompei and some other 3000 items, a fraction of Italy's cultural heritage.

The main obstacle to the promotion of Italian culture is "Codice Urbani", a
law which forces photographers to enquire the local authority about
protected status for each building, ask authorisation and pay fees if
required. For objects created in the last 150 years, an additional obstacle
is copyright for the architect, given the lack of freedom of panorama. To
help photographers, Wikimedia Italia acquired this permission in advance
for 392 custodian entities.

*Netherlands* – The country where Wiki Loves Monuments started in 2010 has
over 60.000 recognised national monuments. After four photo competitions
and the wonderful donation of hundreds of thousands of photos by the
cultural heritage agency, many monuments have a free photo available. What
to photograph next?

The next challenge was in municipal monuments, with one slight problem:
each municipality is responsible for determining and maintaining their
list. While some municipalities publish proudly lists of their local
heritage, others have have not recognised local heritage, or are even
reluctant to share the lists. After many phone calls and emails, volunteers
managed to gather a unique database of Dutch municipal monuments with more
than 80% of the municipalities covered.

(Article by Lodewijk Gelauff, Alexander Tsirlin and Federico Leva)

POSSIBLE PHOTOS:

(Russia)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Соловецкий_монастырь.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Кронштадт. Никольский собор на
Якорной площади.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Сергэ (коновязи) на Бурхане.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Petra i pavla kogevnikah 2.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Пролетарка 70.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Церковь Рождества Пресвятой
Богородицы из села Передки (не позднее 1539).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Надвратная_башня_Смоленск.jpg

You can also check the full short-list from last year:
https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Вики_любит_памятники-2015/Шорт-лист

(Italy)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_Sacra_ammantata_dalla_neve.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biblioteca_Gambalunga_(Rimini)-4.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Palazzo_Ducale_-_Urbino_2.JPG

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piazza_del_Popolo_panorama.jpg

(Netherlands)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brouwershaven_molen_Windlust.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Groesbeek_(NL)_Bredeweg,_Antonius_van_Paduakerk_(03).JPG

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bloemenbuurt_03.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Noorderbegraafplaats_laan_in_tuin.JPG

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dudok_Politiepost.jpg



On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 to Yaroslav
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> Wikimedia Ukraine
>
> 2016-04-11 15:26 GMT+03:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
>> Thanks. Feedback is welcome until tonight.
>>
>> Unfortunately I will rather have to cut information short, than to add
>> more, so I'll have to look into that. I'm afraid Jonathans suggestion about
>> Armenia wouldn't fit in - but it would also be a great opportunity for a
>> blog post.
>>

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-11 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks. Feedback is welcome until tonight.

Unfortunately I will rather have to cut information short, than to add
more, so I'll have to look into that. I'm afraid Jonathans suggestion about
Armenia wouldn't fit in - but it would also be a great opportunity for a
blog post.

Lodewijk

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>
wrote:

> On 2016-04-11 00:14, Lodewijk wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> below a first draft - the piece about Italy is still missing. I think
>> we have a nice diversity this way! It's cramming a bit more, so lets
>> see how this works out.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 
>>
>
> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> hope it is not too late. The text looks good, but I think in the first
> line explanation is missing on what WLM actually is - smth like
> crowdsourcing photographic competition which aims at collecting all
> architectural monuments all over the world  - unless of course there is a
> lede in the article which has already explained this.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-10 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

below a first draft - the piece about Italy is still missing. I think we
have a nice diversity this way! It's cramming a bit more, so lets see how
this works out.

Best,
Lodewijk



Wiki Loves Monuments was organised for the sixth time in 2015, and has now
collected well over a million photos of monuments across the world. There
are major differences in the national approaches towards cultural heritage,
and volunteers organising the competition face different challenges across
the world. Sometimes is getting the lists of monuments the main challenge,
other times it is a legal, cultural or geographical challenge. We hope to
continue spreading enthusiasm for free knowledge and cultural heritage
across the world, and make information about cultural heritage available
across the world.

*Russia* – Russia faces major challenges in its internal diversity and vast
geographic distances. Last year, Russian organizers boosted geographical
coverage by launching a separate prize for the maximum number of visited
regions. Two participants traveled each thousands of kilometers through the
whole country to cover 30 of Russia’s 81 regions, from the Amber Coast to
the Pacific Coast and from the Arctic Ocean to the Black Sea. One of the
winners, Evgeny Lazarev, told us that his 1298 photos were an outcome of
his frequent traveling by car over the last 6 years.

Italy - ...

*Netherlands* – The country where Wiki Loves Monuments started in 2010 has
over 60.000 recognised national monuments. After four photo competitions
and the wonderful donation of hundreds of thousands of photos by the
cultural heritage agency, many monuments have a free photo available. What
to photograph next?

The next challenge was in municipal monuments, with one slight problem:
each municipality is responsible for determining and maintaining their
list. While some municipality publish proudly lists of their local
heritage, others have have not recognised local heritage, or are even
reluctant to share the lists. After many phone calls and emails, volunteers
managed to gather a unique database of Dutch municipal monuments with more
than 80% of the municipalities covered.

(Article by Lodewijk Gelauff, Alexander Tsirlin, Federico Leva)



POSSIBLE PHOTOS:

(Russia)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Соловецкий_монастырь.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Кронштадт. Никольский собор на
Якорной площади.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Сергэ (коновязи) на Бурхане.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Petra i pavla kogevnikah 2.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Пролетарка 70.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Церковь Рождества Пресвятой
Богородицы из села Передки (не позднее 1539).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Надвратная_башня_Смоленск.jpg

You can also check the full short-list from last year:
https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Вики_любит_памятники-2015/Шорт-лист
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-05 Thread Lodewijk
Yeah, the number of words is less than I expected, the liked more photos
from our side :) That is a good thing, I guess!

Alexander: the ultimate deadline is Sunday, but maybe you could send in a
first draft by Friday? Then we can work on it together on Saturday, and
make sure everything fits together well.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Mykola Kozlenko <mycol...@ukr.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We actually already published a post on Wikimedia blog about this last
> year:
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/19/ukraine-secret-cultural-heritage/ ,
> we also wrote about this in our WLM photo album (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWlm_2014_Ukraine.pdf=4
> ) and elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the number of stories dropped from
> 5 to 3, but we are still available to provide a 100-word story if needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Mykola (NickK)
>
> 06 квітня 2016, 00:51:08, від "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>
> Hi,
>
> OK. In total we have 350-400 words. So I propose:
> - 100 words for 3 stories each
> - 100 words for a general surrounding explanation.
>
> I propose the following stories:
> - RU about travelling long distances by photographers
> - NL about collecting municipal lists
> - IT about the struggle with legislation & permissions
>
> Each story can be 100 words in English, with a few good photos that go
> with it (not sure how many we can fit in).
>
> Would that work? Please confirm.
>
> Unfortunately we can't put more stories in! But NickK, it would be great
> to include something on the WLM (or Wikimedia) blog! Could I keep the UA
> story as a backup for this? It sounds more complicated to explain in 100
> words than the NL story, and I like the geographic diversity
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Mykola Kozlenko <mycol...@ukr.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> We in Ukraine would be interested to participate, especially because we
> have just released a journal about Wiki Loves Monuments for exactly the
> same audience - monuments professionals and volunteers - and thus we
> already have some materials ready (in Ukrainian).
>
> Probably the most interesting story from us would be about "making our own
> lists" - not in the meaning that we are doing original research, but in the
> meaning that Ukraine has strictly no cultural heritage register. Instead
> several hundreds of institutions maintain their own official lists, from
> the Ministry of Culture to municipalities, and they hardly communicate with
> each other. The process involved sending requests to all of them,
> digitising and converting these lists, collaborating with local historians
> and museums who sometimes had the necessary lists and even requesting the
> lists in the court when a local administration refused to provide them. As
> a result, we have the most complete monument lists that ever existed in
> Ukraine.
>
> If this story does not work, we can also write about the "WLM community"
> we have, i.e. people who travel, visit, picture and document monuments
> during the year and upload photos of 1000+ monuments in September.
>
> If this corresponds to what you are looking for, please tell us what do we
> have to provide.
>
> Thanks,
> Mykola (NickK)
> WLM Ukraine
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> Дата: 3 квітня 2016, 19:34:54
>
> Hi,
>
> the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and
> volunteers. So what we would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for
> free knowledge, for collaborating with online movements, for sharing
> information. So it would be especially nice to share a story, I think. Not
> so much describing the whole competition, but taking out one aspect, and
> telling a narrative. In Italy, I suspect the story about how all the
> government institutions came together to work around silly legislation
> would be a great story. The size of Russia and the travelling involved
> might make a nice story too. I'm a little less convinced that the 'making
> our own lists' would come across well, but I don't know enough about that.
>
> Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work
> too, in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story
> about collecting the municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and
> collecting and converting them one by one).
>
> What other stories do you know about, that we could share?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> My ideas about WLM in Russia would be:

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-05 Thread Lodewijk
Hi,

OK. In total we have 350-400 words. So I propose:
- 100 words for 3 stories each
- 100 words for a general surrounding explanation.

I propose the following stories:
- RU about travelling long distances by photographers
- NL about collecting municipal lists
- IT about the struggle with legislation & permissions

Each story can be 100 words in English, with a few good photos that go with
it (not sure how many we can fit in).

Would that work? Please confirm.

Unfortunately we can't put more stories in! But NickK, it would be great to
include something on the WLM (or Wikimedia) blog! Could I keep the UA story
as a backup for this? It sounds more complicated to explain in 100 words
than the NL story, and I like the geographic diversity

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Mykola Kozlenko <mycol...@ukr.net> wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> We in Ukraine would be interested to participate, especially because we
> have just released a journal about Wiki Loves Monuments for exactly the
> same audience - monuments professionals and volunteers - and thus we
> already have some materials ready (in Ukrainian).
>
> Probably the most interesting story from us would be about "making our own
> lists" - not in the meaning that we are doing original research, but in the
> meaning that Ukraine has strictly no cultural heritage register. Instead
> several hundreds of institutions maintain their own official lists, from
> the Ministry of Culture to municipalities, and they hardly communicate with
> each other. The process involved sending requests to all of them,
> digitising and converting these lists, collaborating with local historians
> and museums who sometimes had the necessary lists and even requesting the
> lists in the court when a local administration refused to provide them. As
> a result, we have the most complete monument lists that ever existed in
> Ukraine.
>
> If this story does not work, we can also write about the "WLM community"
> we have, i.e. people who travel, visit, picture and document monuments
> during the year and upload photos of 1000+ monuments in September.
>
> If this corresponds to what you are looking for, please tell us what do we
> have to provide.
>
> Thanks,
> Mykola (NickK)
> WLM Ukraine
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> Дата: 3 квітня 2016, 19:34:54
>
> Hi,
>
> the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and
> volunteers. So what we would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for
> free knowledge, for collaborating with online movements, for sharing
> information. So it would be especially nice to share a story, I think. Not
> so much describing the whole competition, but taking out one aspect, and
> telling a narrative. In Italy, I suspect the story about how all the
> government institutions came together to work around silly legislation
> would be a great story. The size of Russia and the travelling involved
> might make a nice story too. I'm a little less convinced that the 'making
> our own lists' would come across well, but I don't know enough about that.
>
> Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work
> too, in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story
> about collecting the municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and
> collecting and converting them one by one).
>
> What other stories do you know about, that we could share?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> My ideas about WLM in Russia would be:
>
> - no national register of cultural heritage (we are basically making one
> ourselves, and it's at least as good as different 'official' registers
> created over the years)
> - no freedom of panorama for sculptures (see Italy)
> - amazing traveling activity of our participants (last year we offered a
> special nomination for the maximum number of regions covered; the winner
> uploaded photos from 31 regions (out of ~85 regions in total), which is
> quite a lot considering the size of the country)
>
> There is likely not enough space to mention everything, but you can point
> me to the topic that will be most interesting for the European readers.
>
> -Alexander
>
>
> On 03.04.2016 19:14, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea
> what the story in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the
> story about Russia?
>
> I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of
> the most successful countries in terms of coverage?
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 P

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hi,

the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and
volunteers. So what we would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for
free knowledge, for collaborating with online movements, for sharing
information. So it would be especially nice to share a story, I think. Not
so much describing the whole competition, but taking out one aspect, and
telling a narrative. In Italy, I suspect the story about how all the
government institutions came together to work around silly legislation
would be a great story. The size of Russia and the travelling involved
might make a nice story too. I'm a little less convinced that the 'making
our own lists' would come across well, but I don't know enough about that.

Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work
too, in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story
about collecting the municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and
collecting and converting them one by one).

What other stories do you know about, that we could share?

Best,
Lodewijk

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My ideas about WLM in Russia would be:
>
> - no national register of cultural heritage (we are basically making one
> ourselves, and it's at least as good as different 'official' registers
> created over the years)
> - no freedom of panorama for sculptures (see Italy)
> - amazing traveling activity of our participants (last year we offered a
> special nomination for the maximum number of regions covered; the winner
> uploaded photos from 31 regions (out of ~85 regions in total), which is
> quite a lot considering the size of the country)
>
> There is likely not enough space to mention everything, but you can point
> me to the topic that will be most interesting for the European readers.
>
> -Alexander
>
>
> On 03.04.2016 19:14, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea
> what the story in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the
> story about Russia?
>
> I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of
> the most successful countries in terms of coverage?
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < <altsir...@gmail.com>
> altsir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Lodewijk,
>>
>> I can write something about WLM in Russia, but I have to know the size
>> limit and the time scale.
>>
>> Best,
>> Alexander
>>
>>
>> On 03.04.2016 13:34, Lodewijk wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the
>> deadline would be short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an
>> article? I imagine a few scenarios:
>>
>> - 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years
>> - 2. Make a piece about WLM in 2015, with a short outlook for 2016. I'm
>> not sure if this would give the best material
>> - 3. Make a piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider
>> European region (Council of Europe - which includes Russia etc) and making
>> it a little more about the national stories.
>>
>> I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a
>> story about national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I
>> would need your help! Who would be able to help write a piece? What would
>> be your favourite approach?
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hi,

OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea
what the story in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the
story about Russia?

I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of
the most successful countries in terms of coverage?

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Lodewijk,
>
> I can write something about WLM in Russia, but I have to know the size
> limit and the time scale.
>
> Best,
> Alexander
>
>
> On 03.04.2016 13:34, Lodewijk wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the
> deadline would be short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an
> article? I imagine a few scenarios:
>
> - 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years
> - 2. Make a piece about WLM in 2015, with a short outlook for 2016. I'm
> not sure if this would give the best material
> - 3. Make a piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider
> European region (Council of Europe - which includes Russia etc) and making
> it a little more about the national stories.
>
> I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a
> story about national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I
> would need your help! Who would be able to help write a piece? What would
> be your favourite approach?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
>
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[Wiki Loves Monuments] Possible 2 page article

2016-04-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hey folks,

it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the
deadline would be short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an
article? I imagine a few scenarios:

- 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years
- 2. Make a piece about WLM in 2015, with a short outlook for 2016. I'm not
sure if this would give the best material
- 3. Make a piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider
European region (Council of Europe - which includes Russia etc) and making
it a little more about the national stories.

I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a
story about national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I
would need your help! Who would be able to help write a piece? What would
be your favourite approach?

Best,
Lodewijk
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Connected Open Heritage project started

2016-01-23 Thread Lodewijk
Glad to hear this project made it to the real world! I recall discussing it
(almost a year ago?) and it's great that finally a full migration can be
done :) Would be helpful for the consistency of the data.

Probably good to write a blog post about it for wikilovesmonuments.org and
prepare some info for people who want to add new countries: how they should
do that in the mean time, and who to approach. It'll be an interesting WLM
year!

Lodewijk

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:54 PM, André Costa <lokal.pro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ilya,
>
> The data will migrate into Wikidata and so will be following, and limited
> by, the standards as they are implemented there.
> Specifically discussion about the structure of the data will happen at
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM and
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Cultural_heritage
> where you are welcome to join in the discussions.
>
> As for tooling we haven't decided on any specifics yet but likely most
> tools would be of use (possibly with some minor tweaking) for, at least,
> other data on Wikidata.
>
> Cheers,
> André Costa (WMSE)
>
> On 21 January 2016 at 17:24, Ilya Korniyko <intra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> This is very interesting project.
>> Are you going to use standarts like CIDOC CRM, International Core Data
>> Standard for Archaeological and Architectural Heritage and W3C standarts
>> for Linked Data?
>> Have you investigated and are you going to reuse tools and experience
>> from various existing project like Europeana?
>> Are the tools going to be generic enough to support other fields of
>> knowledge beyound objects of Wiki Loves Monuments?
>> How are you going to plan and implement your tools?
>> This details of  are currently missing in your description pages.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ilya
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Axel Pettersson <
>> axel.petters...@wikimedia.se> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, (cross posting on purpose, no excuses)
>>>
>>> Great news for everyone interested in cultural heritage.
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Sverige, along with partners UNESCO, Wikimedia Italia and
>>> Cultural Heritage without Borders, has received a $300,000 grant from
>>> Kulturstiftelsen (the Swedish postcode lottery) to work on a project called 
>>> Connected
>>> Open Heritage.[1]
>>>
>>> The project lasts until July 2017, and during that time we will work on:
>>>
>>>-
>>>
>>>Migrating the information in the WLM database to Wikidata
>>>-
>>>
>>>Updating and adding new data about monuments, including from ten
>>>countries where cultural heritage is at risk
>>>-
>>>
>>>Uploading tens of thousands of images and media files from cultural
>>>heritage institutions
>>>-
>>>
>>>Increasing awareness about what the Wikimedia movement is doing in
>>>the cultural heritage field, both to the Wikimedia communities, general
>>>public and also to experts in the field
>>>-
>>>
>>>Promoting open data and free licenses
>>>-
>>>
>>>Organizing a photo exhibition with images of cultural heritage in at
>>>least three countries.
>>>
>>>
>>> All info on the project, including who to contact if you want to get
>>> involved, timeplan, activities and such are available on Meta. The talk
>>> page on Meta is open for comments and questions, and all input on this is
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Connected_Open_Heritage
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> /axel
>>>
>>> 
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>>> Projektledare GLAM/Outreach
>>> Wikimedia Sverige
>>>
>>> +46 (0)733 96 55 65
>>> axel.petters...@wikimedia.se
>>>
>>> Twitter: @Haxpett <https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett>
>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 2nd phase: Prizes for the international contest (addressed mainly to the local organizers)

2015-12-09 Thread Lodewijk
Hi,

It's not published in a perfect way because the jury report is still under
production. I didn't want to wait for that to be finalized before
announcing the winners - I had the feeling that people wanted to hear that
sooner. The report is coming up, but there are also real life priorities
that take precedence.

Also, if anyone wants to help the international team with communications
(blogging, facebooking, twittering, but also communications with the
national teams): this is typically a thing nobody likes to do very much,
because you usually get only criticism. So I'm confident that volunteers
would be welcome!

Best,
Lodewijk

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:00 AM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia <ecem...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> To summarize, it's pretty clear: why the full list of 25 winners is not
> published in any referenceable way?
>
>   // M.A. Monjas
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia <ecem...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> We're a bunch of volunteers asking for and receiving a grant for running
>> a professional contest. Although tweeting the full list of winner is
>> definitely cool, it's not professional at all to have to refer to a tweet
>> to state that I scored 20th, for instance.
>>
>>   // M.A. Monjas
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:56 AM, ecemaml @ es.wikipedia wrote:
>>> > Yes, using Twitter as the only means for publishing a contest result is
>>> > really unprofessional :-(
>>>
>>> We are not professionals here, but a bunch of volunteers in an open
>>> community. This is why I was bothered having communications first and
>>> foremost inside a walled garden (twitter) instead of our open
>>> community (Commons).
>>>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The winners of the international contest...

2015-12-07 Thread Lodewijk
user:Ата from WMUA may write an international blog post today, and share
it. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do a decent announcement right
now, due to work.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicub...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, the social thing on twitter was kind of cute, but can we have a
> proper list somewhere on Commons or the website so we can put a
> reference link in announcements?
>
> Thank you,
>
> --
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>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Racso <os...@racso.co> wrote:
> > These images won Wiki Loves Monuments 2015. You won't believe what #7
> shows:
> >
> > @wikimonuments
> >
> > El dic 7, 2015 6:36 AM, Pierre-Selim <pierre-se...@huard.info> escribió:
> >>
> >> Ahahah you are teasing us, nice trick :)
> >>
> >> Le 7 décembre 2015 à 12:31, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >>>
> >>> ...follow Twitter:
> >>>
> >>> @wikimonuments
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> Wikimedia CH
> >>> Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
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> >>> Tel: +41764821371
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Non-monuments winning?

2015-11-05 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

first of all: thanks for all the input! Very helpful to read this
additional info and thoughts.

In this thread some points came up that could indeed use some factual
clarification:
- Every country is different. Each country has a slightly different
definition of monuments. That is nothing new, and we will always have to
work with that. For example, some countries have a definition including
ships, and some have even a few trees on their national heritage list. Some
flexibility with regards to what is being photographed is therefore always
necessary. One of the biggest differences is the size of the objects. Some
countries recognize a whole city as one monument. That must mean that a
photo of a part of a monument, also counts as a photo of a monument. This
is the same as we did in the past.
- We actually all have the same rules in the international competition, but
countries can derive from that in their national competition. However,
those nominated pictures will be treated equally in the international
finale. You can allow watermarks in your national competition, but I can
predict that the odds that a watermarked picture scores into the top-10 of
the international finale is very low. Theoretically however, a picture
could 'make up' for the downside of the watermark. It is not a hard
requirement.
- Countries can award as many prizes as they want. However, they can only
/nominate/ 10 of them for the international finale. Theoretically, those
don't have to be the top-10. In the past, countries have nominated the
top-7 of the main category, and the winners of three special categories.
But always maximum 10 per national competition.
- For most of the other issues, I refer back to the judgement criteria:
Technical quality, Originality and Usefulness on Wikipedia. If you only
photograph a little snake that is in the garden of a monument with nothing
of the monument visible, it is not useful for Wikipedia in the context of
that monument. If you add big watermarks, it is not only low on technical
quality, but also barely useful. These criteria have been the same in the
past five years, and cannot be a surprise. Most issues where you think an
image is 'wrong' are fixed by sticking to these criteria.

With regards to yes or no monument on the photo, which was the original
question, I will take the approach that I only worry about the images that
are likely to score high. If they do, I will get in touch with the national
team, and see if they can help identify the monument. If not, and there is
not an identified monument on the picture, I will propose disqualification
to the jury. In the end, the jury will decide on this. Thanks for your
input in this tough question!

Best,
Lodewijk

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:54 PM, LilyOf TheWest <
lilyofthewest.wikime...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying this, nicu. :)
>
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2015, Nicu Buculei <nicub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, LilyOf TheWest wrote:
>> >
>> > It would be good if Lodewijk can clarify what's happening in this case.
>> We
>> > (Iran) had to use a rule to break ties or otherwise we would end up
>> with 11
>> > pictures. If going beyond 10 is an option, I'd like to discuss it a bit
>> more
>> > to make sure we give our participants the same chance other countries
>> are
>> > providing to theirs. :)
>>
>> Look at the page, nobody provided more than 10 pictures:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_winners
>>
>> Indeed, France listed 13, but there are 10 of them marked as 1st -
>> 10th and then 3 "special prizes". Of course only the first 10 go to
>> the international contest:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_winners#France
>>
>>
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