Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

[Ricordisamoa]

DMCA + BLP = FUD?

Pardon my brevity, for my time is best spent adding uncited claims via 
sockpuppets so that I can get some money once the hunt begins.


Il 22/04/2016 18:54, James Salsman ha scritto:

How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters funding pilots to
have professional researchers dohttps://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/en
and a few other main languages?

It would be great to measure the quality of results of different payment
incentive models and rates, but this is not something that the Foundation
could do without some risk of breaching the DMCA safe harbor provisions, as
far as I can see. Even if I am technically wrong about that, the
appearances would be that it's obvious exertion of what would be positive
editorial control, which would still mean a greater likelihood of lawsuits
by disgruntled BLP and corporate subjects who can't win in court but can
waste everyone's money.

But I would rather have multiple measurements administered by different
parties anyway, because there are likely to be large uncontrollable sources
of noise.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

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Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto:

On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote:
As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable 
for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. 


While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does 
contribute to FLOSS themselves (mostly in the Ruby and Go worlds, that 
intersect very little with our own tech).


I don't think it's reasonable to expect that every external supplier 
is all-FLOSS.  For one, the movement would be pretty much stuck 
without hardware, networking gear, and power at the very least.  Not 
every service/provider even *have* pure-FLOSS alternative - let alone 
good or even adequate ones.


-- Coren / Marc



My concern was about the (likely proprietary) JavaScript that is run on 
the customers' devices, but it turns out that it isn't actually required 
to browse and purchase?

And yes, it'd be nice if the server side was under WMF's control too!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

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As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for 
a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance.


[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise#Shopify.3F

Il 21/03/2016 11:28, Joseph Seddon ha scritto:

Hey Florence,

Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but
hosted by Shopify, an e-commerce provider. [1] The orders are then sent to
our fulfillment partner, SWAGBOT. [2] We have a staff contractor, Gretchen
Holtman, who runs the shop for the Wikimedia Foundation. [3]

The email address is responded to by Wikimedia Foundation staff typically
either Gretchen for regarding issues surrounding the Wikimedia Shop, or
myself in relation to the merchandise giveaway scheme. [4]

Feel free to contact me off list if there is anything I can help you with.

Seddon

[1] https://www.shopify.co.uk/
[2] https://store.wikimedia.org/pages/our-fulfillment-company
[3]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors#Fundraising_Operations
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Florence Devouard 
wrote:


Is that directly run by Wikimedia Foundation staff or is that run by an
independant company "paid" by WMF to manage the shop ?

Who is behind the email address merchand...@wikimedia.org ?

Thank you

Florence


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook marketing inside pt.wikipedia

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Couldn't resist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_M0SDk3ZaM=PLiOgVo8_i0Q-XgloSLhzJ64XwC5kGoQUF

Il 19/02/2016 10:39, Tomasz Ganicz ha scritto:

Nikola - but does it bring any added value to Wikipedia? Does number of
active editors in Bulgarian Wikipedia increased because of it? Can you see
it in Wikipedia statics? IMHO it is the only thing which might legitimate
such an action.






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2016-02-19 1:41 GMT+01:00 Nikola Kalchev :


Hello Rodrigo,

on Bulgarian Wikipedia we put a text asking readers to like our Facebook
page, our Twitter and Google+ accounts, as well to visit our blog [1]. The
Facebook likes went up from 1923 to 5381 in a month, 126 people followed us
on Twitter (virtually nobody did it before that), 123 people followed us on
Google+ and the reader numbers on our blog went significantly up (I don't
have the data right now). Nobody in the community objected to this and we
would probably do it again some day. We decided to remove it after a month,
because we saw that the number of new likes declined over time.

Best regards,
Nikola (User:Лорд Бъмбъри
)
Wikimedians of Bulgaria

[1]

https://bg.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8:Sitenotice=7097975
(it says "Like the page of Wikipedia in Bulgarian on Facebook
. You can also follow us on Twitter
 and Google+
 as well as visit our
blog ").

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Rodrigo Padula <
rodrigopad...@wikimedia.org.br> wrote:


Hello fellows!

Since the end of the last year some contributors from pt.wikipedia are
discussing regarding the idea of including the promotion of our Facebook
Page on site Notice [1]

That proposal was started by Teles, a Brazilian steward. He received a

lot

of local support.

The general idea is to bring more people from Facebook to access

Wikipedia

through our Facebook page, but what we are doing is redirecting users

from

pt.wikipedia to Facebook and including a free Facebook ads on

pt.wikipedia.

I would like to know if it is ok for the Wikimedia Movement and if this
kind of Facebook promotional campaign was proposed and published in other
wikipedias/wikimedia projects.

[1]


https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Inserir_p%C3%A1gina_da_Wikip%C3%A9dia_em_portugu%C3%AAs_do_Facebook_no_sitenotice_%2825nov2015%29

Best regards

Rodrigo Padula
Coordenador de Projetos
Grupo Wikimedia Brasileiro de Educação e Pesquisa
http://www.wikimedia.org.br
+55 21 99326-0558


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message from Arnnon Geshuri to the Wikimedia Community

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Although it can be argued whether Arnnon's reassurance will be enough to 
let him stay safely on Board for two whole years, there's little doubt 
that public debate will finally benefit from knowing his viewpoint.


Il 26/01/2016 20:07, Arnnon Geshuri ha scritto:

It has been almost three weeks since my appointment to the Wikimedia
Foundation Board and I have read the feedback and comments from
representative members of the community.  My first reaction was how amazing
the community is in its vibrant culture – there is direct and honest
dialog, celebration of diverse ideas, debate and counterpoints, and an
overall genuine passion to ensure that the WMF sustains itself for another
fifteen years and beyond.   Witnessing firsthand the commitment and energy
of the community is truly inspirational.  Although I would have preferred
the tone surrounding my appointment to be more positive and supportive, I
deeply understand and respect the criticality of free expression, rallying
around convictions, and open disagreement.


Regarding the concerns that have been raised, I have listened closely.
That said, in my opinion, there are some misconceptions and there are
mitigating considerations.  As a general matter, I will say that,
throughout my career, I have been charged with enforcing company policies
as part of my role as a people manager. I have tried to do so thoughtfully
and consistently.  I have done so realizing company policies and practices
evolve over time as circumstances change.



As part of the current narrative, members of the community generated a
running theme within the online conversations related to trust.  Comments
were expressed questioning their trust in the Wikimedia Foundation Board
and asking if the community could accept me as a new Board Member.  Wanting
to understand the challenges ahead, I have spent the last few weeks
speaking with current and former Board members and reaching out to folks in
the community.  I have more conversations in the coming days and appreciate
those who have been generous with their time.  Given the story line that
has been shaped over the last couple weeks and based on the feedback from
my conversations, I know I have a longer journey than most new Board
members to prove to the community and WMF alumni that they can put their
trust in me.  I joined to make a positive difference and be a part of the
important effort to grow the WMF for the next generation of editors,
contributors, and users.
As the community gets to know me, folks will see the way I work is with
thoughtfulness, transparency, diversity, and a focus on doing what is
right.  I have key experiences in both my professional and non-profit
careers which lend a distinctive perspective to the honorable work of a
Trustee – especially the learnings gained over the last decade.  I
passionately believe in the core values of the WMF and trust that the
community and even the most energetic community members come from a place
of good intent.  And as we all become closer and transition to debating the
issues and not the people, the community will see I consistently speak from
the heart, I am passionately committed to the movement with the best
intent, and I am working hard to earn your trust.

Regards,
Arnnon
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

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I hereby propose that this year be called the Magnus Manske Year.

Il 25/01/2016 13:33, Steinsplitter Wiki ha scritto:

Magnus moved Wikipedia forward by coding mediawiki.

And he is still creating useful tools. Thanks Magnus for your hard work!

We can be proud to have Magnus in the Wikimedia movement.



--- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day --

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board for Wikimedia Belgium

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I hope they were checked for Google ties and past anticompetitive 
behaviour ;-)


Il 24/01/2016 02:11, Romaine Wiki ha scritto:

Hello all,

We as Wikimedia Belgium now have a new board installed with the General
Assembly of Saturday 23 January 2016.

Three board members leave (due time constraints):
* MADe - our hard working president who focussed on the goal of founding
Wikimedia Belgium and he did!

* M0tty - our vice president who is one of the founders and collaborated
with the Mundaneum.

* Dimi z - our international liaison and one of the founders and is the
face to the European politicians in Brussels.

All three remain active for Wikimedia Belgium in an advisory role for the
board.

Thank you MADe, M0tty & Dimi z for your work the past years!


Two board members come in:
* SPQRobin - member of the Wikimedia language committee, developer, and
long term Wikipedia editor.

* Lfurter - graphic designer, researcher, curator, and organiser of
multiple Wikimedia events.


Welcome SPQRobin & Lfurter!


Also a new president of our chapter has been elected. This is now Geertivp.

Geertivp had in the board the role of secretary, which included a
performance on Belgian television last week. Thank you for your work as
secretary and success with the role as president!

SPQRobin takes over the role of secretary from Geertivp.


Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

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Il 25/01/2016 00:47, Jane Darnell ha scritto:

Hope everybody takes some time today to share what they have learned from
using Magnus' tools. It's time to call on all posse members to share their
tool tips, because it's ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day


Actually it's 23:56 UTC of January 24

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisonnets!

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Just found https://github.com/starakaj/wikisonnet. Apparently it's a 
family-run project :-D


Il 17/01/2016 00:31, Asaf Bartov ha scritto:

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Johan Jönsson  wrote:


http://wikison.net/

The status as a student union will
be nominated for deletion still.


Hilarious. :)

Also, Richard Knipel has helpfully informed me that the hacker's name is Cassie
Tarakajian.
https://github.com/catarak

A.



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

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"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freemiumly share 
in the sum of all knowledge." XD


Il 16/01/2016 10:23, Pete Forsyth ha scritto:

I'm interested to hear some perspectives on the following line of thinking:

Lisa presented some alternative strategies for revenue needs for the
Foundation, including the possibility of charging for premium access to the
services and APIs, expanding major donor and foundation fundraising,
providing specific services for a fee, or limiting the Wikimedia
Foundation's growth. The Board emphasized the importance of keeping free
access to the existing APIs and services, keeping operational growth in
line with the organization's effectiveness, providing room for innovation
in the Foundation's activities, and other potential fundraising strategies.
The Board asked Lila to analyze and develop some of these potential
strategies for further discussion at a Board meeting in 2016.
Source: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2015-11-07
-Pete[[User:Peteforsyth]]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

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Thankspam is not big a problem in my opinion. One or two seconds per 
message and you're done, then your mind will be full of good. What I 
find most annoying are long emails with few actual contents. You have to 
read them to find out they were not worth reading.


Il 13/01/2016 12:11, Fæ ha scritto:

TL;DR
Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
& goodbyes for our public email lists?

BACKGROUND
Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.

Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
don't get flagged in recent changes.

This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
was aiming for.

PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.

Fae

On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
...

I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board for
the time and effort they have spent.

- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your mistake
caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);

I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.

...



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please sign your posts

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It is a failure of digest mode then.

--unsigned

Il 09/01/2016 03:21, billinghurst ha scritto:

To those who have fallen out of the habit of signing your posts,
please fall back into the habit of good netiquette. For those of us
who read the digest mode it is troublesome to have unsigned posts, and
then need to flick back to the digest ToC to find the poster. Thanks.

Regards, Billinghurst

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board of Trustees

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Wut?

Il 28/12/2015 23:43, James Heilman ha scritto:

On Dec 28th 2015 I was removed from the board of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Many thanks to all those who gave me their support during the last
election. I have worked in the last six month to honor the trust placed in
me by advocating for our values, communities, and projects.

Sincerely
James Heilman




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ¡Wikimedia Argentina community's documentary film, coming on January!

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Commons? Hehe :-D

Il 24/12/2015 15:09, Anna Torres ha scritto:

Hi!

We will be launching it in a cultural center here in Buenos Aires. After,
will be available on youtube and vimeo :)

I will send it to you all asap!

Hugs!

2015-12-24 11:06 GMT-03:00 Mardetanha :


​Great, How can we watch in january ? is it going to be on youtube or
cinema or something ?
​

Mardetanha

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Anna Torres  wrote:


Dear all,

On behalf of Wikimedia Argentina we are pleased to announce the new
documentary film based on our community and that will be launch on

January

15th, for Wikipedia 15th anniversary.

As a preview you can find the trailer in the following link
, subtitles available in
english.

Hope you all like it!

Happy Christmas and Happy New Year.



--
Anna Torres Adell
Directora Ejecutiva
*A.C. Wikimedia Argentina*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Something fun to share - Jimmy jokes about his "stare" fundraising photo

[Ricordisamoa]

After the latest cup of coffee, I really miss Jimbo's eyes :-(
And honestly, they were not even annoying...

Il 01/12/2015 16:50, Gregory Varnum ha scritto:

Greetings,

I have chatted with a number of folks over the years about ways to help promote 
the annual fundraising appeal - but in ways that did not feel so serious that 
it was out of our character to post on social media.

Good news - it appears this year Jimmy has participated in a video that serves 
this purpose very well. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njHebJTM0nk

Entertaining way to help kick off the fundraising appeal, and one that I am 
already having fun sharing on Twitter and FB. Given how seriously many of us 
take and talk about the campaign, this was a bit of levity I appreciated. :)

Enjoy!

-greg (User:Varnent)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect is gone

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Hi Quim,
you really made my day. :-)

Il 05/11/2015 18:35, Quim Gil ha scritto:

Superprotect [1] was introduced by the Wikimedia Foundation to resolve a
product development disagreement. We have not used it for resolving a
dispute since. Consequently, today we are removing Superprotect from
Wikimedia servers.

Without Superprotect, a symbolic point of tension is resolved. However, we
still have the underlying problem of disagreement and consequent delays at
the product deployment phase. We need to become better software partners,
work together towards better products, and ship better features faster. The
collaboration between the WMF and the communities depends on mutual trust
and constructive criticism. We need to improve Wikimedia mechanisms to
build consensus, include more voices, and resolve disputes.

There is a first draft of an updated Product Development Process [2] that
will guide the work of the WMF Engineering and Product teams.[3] It
stresses the need for community feedback throughout the process, but
particularly in the early phases of development. More feedback earlier on
will allow us to incorporate community-driven improvements and address
potential controversy while plans and software are most flexible.

We welcome the feedback of technical and non-technical contributors. Check
the Q for details.[4]

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Superprotect
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Product_Development_Process
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering
[4]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

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Il 01/11/2015 11:46, Shlomi Fish ha scritto:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:14:11 -0700
Asaf Bartov  wrote:


Dear friends,

Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the
Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after long
illness.


sorry to hear about that. My condolences go to his family and friends.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Belissarius

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Il 05/11/2015 22:57, Asaf Bartov ha scritto:

Sad news. :(

A.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Pine W  wrote:


Colleagues,

The Wikipedia community has received news of the passing of
User:Belissarius. He spoke Polish natively and English at a high level of
proficiency. He wrote about himself on his Wikipedia user pages at
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Belissarius
and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Belissarius. Confirmation of his
passing appeared in the *Polish Daily News *at
http://dziennikzwiazkowy.com/polonia/red-piotr-domaradzki-nie-zyje/

A self-portrait of him appears here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulkownik_P.JPG

His record includes 107,753 edits to Polish Wikipedia, and over 1000 edits
each to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Belissarius

May he rest in peace.

Regards,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'll be moving on

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It is not a farewell but a new welcome!

Il 08/10/2015 10:22, Jan Ainali ha scritto:

All,

For the last three years I have been the Executive Director for Wikimedia
Sverige. Before that I have been Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary of the
board (at different times) and have been involved since the founding of the
chapter in 2007. It is perhaps even an understatement to say that the
chapter has been a big part of my life. I have had the opportunity to be
part of a fantastic journey from starting the first chapter’s activities to
today, with stable strategic activities, seven people in the office, and a
diversified board. It has been an awesome time in my life and I have met
and worked with some truly wonderful persons along the way, and I am
thankful to all of you that have made it so inspiring. But now, as my
contract is about to come to an end, I feel that it is time for me to move
on to new endeavours. I am confident that the chapter is already in good
hands, with a professional board and an office with experienced staff
members and functional processes, but I’ll be around until at least the
beginning of January to make it a smooth transition.

I will obviously always be a wikimedian at heart and probably pick up on my
editing again and I will also stay subscribed to most mailing lists. If not
earlier, I’ll see you in Esino Lario.

Best regards,

*Jan Ainali*
Executive director, Wikimedia Sverige



*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens
samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.*
Bli medlem.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

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Proper data-based stubs are being worked on: 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1416/

Lsjbot, you have no chance to survive make your time.

Il 06/09/2015 02:40, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of 
geographical related items from all over the world.


Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several 
months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and 
notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard 
(and these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most 
areas.  In the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical 
Arabic names should be transcribed differently depending on its 
geographic location. And I was fascinated of the question of 
notability of wells in the Bahrain desert (which in the end was 
excluded, mostly because we knew too little of that reality)


In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then 
when it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant 
geographical items close to the actual one: a lake close by, a 
mountain and where is the nearest major town etc.


Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1 
articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more than 
what exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 
50% as many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] 
where you can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a 
relevant figure existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding 
articles on other languages in this case, many having less information 
than the bot generated one.


The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the 
article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many 
months more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed 
before it is through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to 
enter it at [4]


Anders
(with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, I 
am just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)


[1]
http://www.geonames.org/about.html

[2]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29

[3]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar

[4]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser 






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

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Hoi,
Wouldn't have it been a better use of Sverker's brainpower to implement 
a long-term solution that doesn't require saving articles to the wiki?


Il 06/09/2015 11:23, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
At svwp we work closely with Wikidata and see it as the natural base 
for our article substance. And we follow closely Phabricator and are 
eager to implement it as soon as it will be feasible to implement. And 
Lsjbot is in no way counteractive to these. It will be easy to 
exchange Lsjbot article with Phabricator generated ones when time is 
right.


But I believe you miss the point with what Lsjbot is doing now. The 
extensive research etc done on data in Geonames is one of the crucial 
efforts. And in a way all this generation project is a research on the 
viability to use this data for full in all language versions. If it 
still is seen as viable we could extend our article coverage for 
geographical entities with a factor 10 in all versions. And this 
research is a must even independently of which technique is used to 
generate the articles.


The other crucial effort is the extended intelligence built into the 
generation of  facts in the articles. To find out close by physical 
object by clever algorithms is a intellectual effort of highest 
dignity. First when bot generating was introduced, it was more or less 
a mapping of items from input to items in output (in articles). We now 
see how more info is created by info only implicit existing in input 
and where it is combined with external (map) data


I can not enough press on how much I am impressed by Sverkers 
outstanding intellectual effort and his creativity in implementing and 
running software that is of great help reaching our common vision 
"free knowledge for all".


 Anders




Den 2015-09-06 kl. 08:50, skrev Gerard Meijssen:

Hoi,
PLEASE reconsider. A Wikidata based solution is not superior because it
started from Wikidata.

PLEASE consider collaboration. It will be so much more powerful when 
LSJBOT

and people at Wikidata collaborate. It will get things right the first
time. It does not have to be perfect from the start as long as it gets
better over time. As long as we always work on improving the data.

PLEASE consider text generation based on Wikidata. They are the scripts
LSJBOT uses, they can help us improve the text when more or better
information becomes available.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 6 September 2015 at 08:25, Ricordisamoa 
<ricordisa...@openmailbox.org>

wrote:


Proper data-based stubs are being worked on:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1416/
Lsjbot, you have no chance to survive make your time.


Il 06/09/2015 02:40, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:

Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of 
geographical

related items from all over the world.

Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several
months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and
notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard 
(and
these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most 
areas.  In
the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical Arabic 
names should
be transcribed differently depending on its geographic location. 
And I was
fascinated of the question of notability of wells in the Bahrain 
desert
(which in the end was excluded, mostly because we knew too little 
of that

reality)

In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then 
when
it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant 
geographical items

close to the actual one: a lake close by, a mountain and where is the
nearest major town etc.

Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1
articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more 
than what
exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 
50% as
many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] 
where you
can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a relevant 
figure

existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding articles on other
languages in this case, many having less information than the bot 
generated

one.

The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the
article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many 
months
more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed 
before it is
through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to enter it 
at [4]


Anders
(with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, 
I am

just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)

[1]
http://www.geonames.org/about.html

[2]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29

[3]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar

[4]

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser 






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

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Any reasons the WLM 'banner' can't become a Main Page panel like the 
ones on Commons?


Il 20/08/2015 07:26, Risker ha scritto:

I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing here,
but I also see Fundraising's point.  I wonder if there are not some other
options that could be considered.  For example, instead of a banner,
perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says Upload images for
Wiki Loves Monuments here! may be technically feasible.  It's not quite
the equivalent of a banner, but it does address the wayfinding issue at
least.  (I think that's possibly the biggest downside of not having the WLM
banners in rotation.)

Let's give ourselves permission to think outside the box a bit here; both
of these activities are valuable and important to our movement, each of
them have different but viable reasons for wanting to proceed during that
specific period. There are a lot of smart people reading this mailing list.
I'd like to think between the several-hundred of us we might be able to
come up with a solution that works to accommodate both groups.

Risker/Anne

On 20 August 2015 at 01:19, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:


Yes, Andrew is right. Navigation is a very important focus point of
organising every Wiki Loves Monuments.

The complexity of the navigation is that MediaWiki and the whole group of
Wikimedia wikis is not designed for navigation, but designed for showing
content. In the past eight years small improvements have been made in this
field, but in general speaking it is still not easy to navigate for the
majority of the people.

Romaine

2015-08-19 20:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:


I think Andrew is right: the WLM banner serves as a pointer, and it's

very

easy to remember go on Wikipedia and click into the banner on the top.
It's much more difficult to remember the strange name of the contest (in
Italy it's still called Wiki Loves Monuments, even if it's English).

And of course we do not have good analytics for the banner: nobody knows
homw many page views there are in a single wiki per day, so we cannot

count

the clickthroughs (which we have as the link is on a WLM landing page).

Aubrey



On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
wrote:


On 19 August 2015 at 14:26, Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:

There's a more general problem here we should fix:

We already know that effectiveness of any single banner drops off
dramatically after the first few views.  So there's rarely a reason

to

run

a continuous banner -- certainly not if there are other banners to

run.

I think we should be cautious about using our fundraising experience
to predict the efficiency of 'delayed call-to-action' banners like WLM
- to my mind they seem to function in quite different roles.

The fundraising banner is calling for an immediate action. You see it,
and you either donate or you don't. If you decide not to donate, you
probably won't decide to donate on seeing it tomorrow, either; while
if you have donated, you're probably not going to donate again. So the
banner being repeated doesn't gain us much, and it has progressively
less value on the third, fourth, fifth appearances. There are
relatively few people who see a fundraising banner and decide I'll
sleep on it, then come back tomorrow and donate. And if they *do*,
well - there's a donate link on every page, once they're looking for
it.

However, WLM is calling for a delayed action - go off, do something,
and come back again to tell us about it.

The most desired outcome is probably that a previously uninvolved
person will see it, click through, think that sounds fun, and go off
to take some photos - after all, it's running all month, they can do
it at the weekend. A few days later they come back, and want to upload
their photos... but if the banner's not there on Wikipedia, they won't
really know where to go. They might not remember the name (Wiki
something?), making it hard to search for the contest, and they
probably didn't bookmark the WLM pages. There isn't anything else on
the page that would help to take them there, and if they're not
involved in the projects already they probably won't know where the
information's likely to be. If we can't make sure they can find WLM
easily when they return, then we've wasted the original call to
action, we've wasted the potential contributions, *and*, most
importantly, we've wasted their time and goodwill.

I think this difference in intended response styles makes it hard to
generalise from the diminishing returns experienced on fundraising.
Yes, a repeated banner will get progressively diminishing
clickthroughs. But with WLM, those second clickthroughs in some ways
provide the value to the first clickthrough - they need to return to
make the campaign a success, which isn't really a concern for
fundraising. We need to make sure that that channel is open and
visible in some way when they come back.

Andrew.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

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I trust administrators not to edit pages they shouldn't.

Il 11/08/2015 22:56, Risker ha scritto:

There are situations where not even the administrators of a particular
community should be allowed to edit a page. A good example would be the
pages that describe the copyright and licensing of Wikimedia products.
Individual communities cannot change that (it applies globally), and
individual administrators should not modify it. If there is a problem with
translation, that needs to be brought to the attention of the WMF, because
there may be a similar problem with translation elsewhere.

There are also some examples currently being discussed on the Wikitech-L
list that may require significantly elevated levels of protection above
'all administrators on Project ABC', although they may call for another
level of protection that can be customizable to allowing a much smaller
group or specific individuals to be the only editors.

Risker/Anne


On 11 August 2015 at 16:43, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote:


So far I know it has only be used once after the occasion, see:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superprotect

If anyone knows another occasion, I would like to ask to report this usage
at this talk page to keep an overview in future.

Greetings,
Romaine

2015-08-11 20:28 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com:


Out of curiosity, was it ever used again after that initial action?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM Laurentius laurentius.w...@gmail.com
wrote:


Il giorno mer, 12/08/2015 alle 01.11 +0900, Hong, Yongmin ha scritto:

It has been a year (and a day) since the gerrit 153302 [1] has been
merged
and deployed to the dewiki.

And it's high time it got removed.

Laurentius



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect's first birthday

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Yeah, I was just thinking it's time to revert it for good.

Il 11/08/2015 18:11, Hong, Yongmin ha scritto:

It has been a year (and a day) since the gerrit 153302 [1] has been merged
and deployed to the dewiki.

Just a friendly reminder that you don't forget WMF's inappropriate action.

[1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/153302
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedias among Top 10

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Hoi,
Why not to focus on that technology instead of bots?
Then every Wikipedia could benefit from Lsjbot's sources, without 
polluting the article namespace but still providing information to 
readers and incentive to editors.

That is EXACTLY what Reasonator and AutoDesc already do.
Content would be generated on the fly so: no irreversibility, no 
out-of-date information.

Thanks,
  Ricordisamoa

Il 06/07/2015 11:24, Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:

Hoi,
I would not say that the Encyclopaedia Britannica is NOT an encyclopaedia.

The objective of Wikipedia is EXACTLY that it is read. Not that it is
edited.

You can argue all you like against bot generated articles but in the final
analysis it is doing a much better job than not providing information.
Arguably it is not needed to save them as articles because it is possible
to generate them on the fly based on information from Wikidata and cache
the results but that is EXACTLY the kind of technology that would bring
missing information to any Wikipedia without distorting the number of
articles for people who only care about editors and editing. It is EXACTLY
the kind of technology I would welcome the WMF to explore.
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 6 July 2015 at 11:09, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:


https://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinaurog:ActiveUsers
https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:ActiveUsers

An encyclopedia in the first 10 places without a community is it an
encyclopedia?

Is the community important to say that wikipedia is wikipedia? In this case
these projects are demonstrating that Wikipedia can renounce to one of its
pilaster.

In my opinion the impact of Waray Waray or of Cebuan is a demonstration
that any strange language can have a big traffic if it is placed in the
first places of the ranking because it will be best ranked in search
engines.

But an impact is something that produces effects and dissemination. I
don't see impact because the bot has increased only one measure (page view)
and nothing else.

If the impact must be produced with SEO, the parameters of evaluations must
change.

It is different when a bot is running in an encyclopedia supported by a
mature community, because the articles will be improved in quality and
will generate more and more effects.

Regards



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedias among Top 10

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I don't think any bot is subscribed to this list.

Il 07/07/2015 01:08, Richard Symonds ha scritto:

Are there any Cebuano or Waray community members on the list to offer an
opinion?
On 6 Jul 2015 23:47, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

I belong to the group of Josh and Ilario and others who have strong
objections against the inundation of pseudo articles (one
sentence-articles, bot creations based on database information etc.).

The people who justify their bot creations make two wrong assumptions:
a) about the contributors: Later, someone will come and improve the
stubs. No, that is not true, at least not in the large majority of the
language versions, and not within the 5 or 10 years we have experience with
this phenomenon.
b) about the readers: No article is better than none. No, bad articles
create a poor impression about a wiki. If you lure someone to your website,
because Google indicated an article about a topic, and if the article is
far from the expections, you don't give readers a reason to come back.
They'll keep preferring Wikipedia in English.

I can imagine that bot articles about your own topics can make sence: like
Frisian villages in Frisian Wikipedia (but certainly not Hungarian villages
in Basque Wikipedia). There is a realistic chance that those articles will
be expanded.

In general, if a Wikipedia language version does not have an article about
a peticular village in a far far away country, or a star in a far far
galaxy, then the reader should be sent to Wikidata or Reasonator.

A friend of mine is an expert on the Corsican language. He told me about
Corsican Wikipedia: All those mini articles on French or Italian villages,
that's nonsense. Those Wikipedians should better concentrate on
important articles such as History of Corsica or Corsican
literature, they are still very poorly written. (This was in a
conversation from a few years ago, I apologize if the situation is
different now.)

Kind regards
Ziko


Am Montag, 6. Juli 2015 schrieb Asaf Bartov :


Indeed, as Josh points out, there are also costs (even if only perceived

or

reputational costs) to populating a tiny Wikipedia with next to no active
editors with hundreds of thousands of bot-generated stubs.  Is having

stubs

on all French communes in Cebuano better than having nothing in Cebuano?
Probably, yes.  And by increasing pageviews (which is measurable), one
increases the likelihood of organic conversion of readers into editors
(which is *still* the most effective way to make Wikipedians, albeit not
the easiest to directly control).

But, again as Josh says, that increase in *editorship* is yet to be
attained.  The Waray Wikipedia (btw, Waray-Waray is, it turns out,
objectionable to Waray speakers, and is mildly derogatory) is still

largely

edited by *one* committed individual, User:JinJian[1], as the stats

plainly

show.  Given that the bot was run *with* JinJian's consent, there can be

no

objection to its operation.

As Milos suggests, there seems to be an emotional response to those
Wikipedias appearing in the top 10 view.  This should be divorced from
those communities' sovereign decisions to run or not run the bot.  If the
top 10 inclusion truly bothers people, and there's a strong consensus

that

Wikipedias largely populated by bot-generated stubs should not be
included, a discussion could be had on what this view *should* mean,
precisely, if not plainly the top 10 Wikipedias by article count.  And
whatever refined definition is agreed upon (e.g. thresholds like a

minimum

number of active editors, or some formula involving the article depth
figure, or whatever) can then be made the basis for the list, or indeed,
for a different list, that would be more satisfying for those who are
displeased with being under these Wikipedias on the list.

A.

[1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaWAR.htm#wikipedians

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Josh Lim jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com
javascript:; wrote:


I can probably speak for those communities.  On the whole, the logic
behind the Lsjbot experiment was simple: build it and they will come.

So far though, this hasn’t happened.  We from the Tagalog Wikipedia

were

also approached for this experiment, but we know what happens when
bot-generated articles are made: the community is overwhelmed.  Out of

that

fear, we declined to participate.

One of the concerns some editors in the Philippines have (and these are
sentiments I share) is that these two Wikipedias turn us into a
laughingstock, willing to increase article numbers at any cost.  At one
point, the Cebuano Wikipedia was described as a Wikipedia of French
communes, not content relevant to Cebu or Cebuanos.  I don’t think we’d
like that with other Wikipedias in the Philippines or elsewhere.

Regards,

Josh


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These are fascinating experiments, I hope that the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedias among Top 10

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Il 06/07/2015 07:31, Salvador A ha scritto:

Hi!

I just I noticed that Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedia are inside the list
of the 10 Wikipedias with more articles.[1]


Let's call them non-redirect pages in the main namespace containing the 
text '[[', please.



It seems it happened during
this weekend. Maybe in the case of Waray Wikipedia happened a little
before. Somebody knows when did it was exactly? Did I miss a thread
announcing this?

Waray-waray is now the 6th place and Cebuano has surpassed it.wiki and
es.wiki and gained the place number 8, mainly due to Lsjbot work.[2]
Definitely a milestone in Wikipedia and bots history.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsjbot




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in Engineering leadership

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Il 03/07/2015 01:35, Lila Tretikov ha scritto:

Dear all,


I wanted to let you know that Damon Sicore’s last day with the WMF was June
30th. Damon has served as the Vice President of Engineering and played a
role in our strategic thinking as we retool to fulfill our mission of
delivering free and open knowledge to the world. We wish him well.


Some of you may have questions about this transition and our plans for
Engineering leadership. There’s a small FAQ attached below that should
address some of the immediate questions about next steps. While I know you
may have additional questions, we can’t share more regarding personnel


Personal?


issues. Thank you for respecting that confidentiality.


Lila







Q. Why did Damon leave?


Damon’s departure is a personnel issue, so we are not able to comment on
it. Thank you for respecting that confidentiality and Damon’s privacy.


Q. Who will manage Engineering and Technology?


Lila and our interim Chief Operating Officer Terry Gilbey will be sharing
oversight for the Engineering and Technology teams at the C-level. They'll
work closely with the strong leadership of the audience verticals and
individual teams. Lila, Terry, Katie Horn, Toby Negrin, Trevor Parscal, Wes
Moran, and the C-team are committed to doing our best to minimize
disruption to your day-to-day work, and to support you during this
transition.


Q. Who will guide Engineering decisions and set goals?


The basic direction for the Engineering team is articulated in their
approved Q1 goals. The team will continue to deliver on these commitments.
The audience team leads will meet regularly with Lila to ensure that their
work remains aligned with the WMF’s technical vision.


Q. What does this mean for the new Engineering and Technology department
structure?


The department structures for Engineering and Technology remain the same.
The audience verticals reflect the emerging strategy, and we believe they
remain the best way to organize the WMF’s teams, based on the work we have
ahead of us in the next few years.


Q. Will there be any additional department reorganization as part of this?


We’re not planning any additional organizational changes.


Q. What does this mean for the ongoing CTO search?


We are already underway with the CTO search; this will continue as planned.
The CTO role is an important part of executing against the WMF’s
engineering strategy. We look forward to bringing on board a new CTO with
the leadership, perspective, and skills that the position entails.


Q. Will we recruit for a new Vice President of Engineering? What is the
timeline?


Our priority will continue to be filling the CTO role. Once we have
identified a CTO we’ll revisit the role of VPE, to ensure that the new
CTO’s perspective is taken into consideration.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] FindArticles.com died in 2012

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Il 30/06/2015 11:41, Lilburne ha scritto:
The average lifespan of a webpage is about 77 days. It matters not 
whether the site is still running or dead. Webmasters shuffle stuff 
about and delete things at will. Click on the random article button 
and see a) how many of the first 10 have external links, and b) how 
many of those links are still live, or don't redirect to the sites 
homepage. I reckon at least 50% of all external links on en.wp are 
dead. Lesson: the internet is ephemeral and the only permanent record 
is on physical material.


Yes, if you forget 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria.




On 30/06/2015 05:36, Jonatan Svensson Glad wrote:
The website findarticles died in 2012 causing over 20 000 articles to 
have dead links on them. A few of them was backed up on Wayback, but 
their robot.txt changed so all those archives were deleted as well. 
So either articles have a dead link showing as 200 (which 
findlinks.com does) or they are claiming to be archived while they 
are not.
Read more in my blog post about this: 
https://jonatanglad.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/findarticles-com/
Can we use a bot to remove all instances of this link, or should we 
go through them all manually? Can we use bots such as CItation bot 
(which is currently blocked) to find doi's and other links to replace 
these links with? Ideas people! Barely any of these links are tagged 
as dead, and can't by Checklinks (unless done manually) since they 
show as 200.

/Josve05a



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Does this article exist in your language?

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Il 29/06/2015 03:25, Romaine Wiki ha scritto:

Hello all,

Great news! In the mean while on 3 different Wikipedias an article has been
written about Freedom of Panorama: Croatian, Lithuanian and Esperanto.

The European languages without an article are now:
* Icelandic
* Norwegian
* Danish
* Belarusian
* Romanian
* Albanian
* Turkish
* Maltese
* Welsh


Not counting Ligurian, Sicilian, Lombard, Neapolitan, Venetian, etc.



Who knows anyone who speaks one of these languages? Please ash him/her!

Thank you!

Romaine



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

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The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia US 
chapter is founded ;-)


Il 08/04/2015 06:58, Pine W ha scritto:

Hi Garfield,

I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted
the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high cost of
living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and
associated high salaries for WMF employees.

I see on
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/8a/RFP_for_Real_Estate_Services.pdf
that WMF is considering relocating its offices when its current main office
lease expires.

Questions:

What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at its current
location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated for the
remodel by the building owner?

I hope that WMF is contemplating fully exiting the San Francisco market
area in order to economize, get better value for our donors' funds, have
less competition for talent, and lower costs of living for staff. Is this
being considered?

Thanks very much,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] US affiliates (was: Re: WMF office location and remodel)

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I know the confederated approach may surely make more sense for the 
local communities, but I think an established regional subject would 
help uproot the Foundation from a single country it relies too much on.


Il 28/06/2015 05:00, Pine W ha scritto:


Hi Ricordisamoa,

There are multiple chapters, user groups and thematic organizations 
that are active in the US and have a degree of separation from WMF. 
The US affiliates are cooperative with each other, and the affiliate 
leaders communicate with each other fairly frequently. May I ask what 
benefits you think would come from having a consolidated US chapter? 
We've talked about this casually among ourselves but so far we seem to 
be satisfied with a confederation of smaller affiliates instead of a 
single national affiliate.


Thanks!

Pine

On Jun 27, 2015 7:20 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org 
mailto:ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:


The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia
US chapter is founded ;-)

Il 08/04/2015 06:58, Pine W ha scritto:

Hi Garfield,

I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians
have noted
the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high
cost of
living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and
associated high salaries for WMF employees.

I see on

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/8a/RFP_for_Real_Estate_Services.pdf
that WMF is considering relocating its offices when its
current main office
lease expires.

Questions:

What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at
its current
location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated
for the
remodel by the building owner?

I hope that WMF is contemplating fully exiting the San
Francisco market
area in order to economize, get better value for our donors'
funds, have
less competition for talent, and lower costs of living for
staff. Is this
being considered?

Thanks very much,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] US affiliates (was: Re: WMF office location and remodel)

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I infer that you would have preferred a single US chapter from the 
start, wouldn't you?


Il 28/06/2015 06:08, Risker ha scritto:

Ironically, Ricordisamoa, the decision to not have a US chapter was made
around 10 years ago at the strong urging of other chapters. The theory (as
I understand it) was that the US was the home of the WMF itself, which in
the view of the era, meant that the US didn't need the protections that
came from a chapter; the WMF itself was perceived to speak for US
Wikimedians. (Given the times, back when there were literally only enough
employees to run the servers and sort of keep an eye on MediaWiki, this was
perhaps an incorrect assessment.) Then US regions started to form chapters,
first New York then DC; there are now a significant number of user groups.
If there had been a US chapter formed back at that time, there would only
be one US chapter; the rest would never be recognized at the chapter level.
Instead, we now see the specter of what could come, since the US alone as a
nation with a large number of Wikimedians does not have the opportunity for
a single chapter:  given a little bit more organization, and the ambition
to do the paperwork to become a chapter, the US could have as many (or
more) chapters than exist in all of Europe in a few years.  One has to
wonder if some other countries, especially those with a large number of
Wikimedians or a massive geographic area, might wish they had gone with
regional affiliates rather than a national one.

Risker/Anne

On 27 June 2015 at 23:26, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:


I know the confederated approach may surely make more sense for the local
communities, but I think an established regional subject would help uproot
the Foundation from a single country it relies too much on.

Il 28/06/2015 05:00, Pine W ha scritto:


Hi Ricordisamoa,

There are multiple chapters, user groups and thematic organizations that
are active in the US and have a degree of separation from WMF. The US
affiliates are cooperative with each other, and the affiliate leaders
communicate with each other fairly frequently. May I ask what benefits you
think would come from having a consolidated US chapter? We've talked about
this casually among ourselves but so far we seem to be satisfied with a
confederation of smaller affiliates instead of a single national affiliate.

Thanks!

Pine

On Jun 27, 2015 7:20 PM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org
mailto:ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:

 The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia
 US chapter is founded ;-)

 Il 08/04/2015 06:58, Pine W ha scritto:

 Hi Garfield,

 I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians
 have noted
 the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high
 cost of
 living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and
 associated high salaries for WMF employees.

 I see on

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/8a/RFP_for_Real_Estate_Services.pdf
 that WMF is considering relocating its offices when its
 current main office
 lease expires.

 Questions:

 What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at
 its current
 location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated
 for the
 remodel by the building owner?

 I hope that WMF is contemplating fully exiting the San
 Francisco market
 area in order to economize, get better value for our donors'
 funds, have
 less competition for talent, and lower costs of living for
 staff. Is this
 being considered?

 Thanks very much,

 Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

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I introduce you FopThreat.js 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/FopThreat.js, which 
blackens Commons files whose description pages include one of the FoP 
templates https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FoP_templates.

It uses Tool Labs so it may not be properly suitable for production... ;-)

Il 22/06/2015 19:01, Sam Klein ha scritto:

You could find candidates in the most popular images and tag them by hand.

If it seems /possible/ that the image is affected, it could be faded out.
As you say, that might be enough for it to be removed.  If it is /likely/
that it is affected, it could be lightboxed or replaced.

Julia Reda, the Pirate in the European Parliament, has a fantastic blog
post summary:
https://juliareda.eu/2015/06/fop-under-threat/


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

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Yes, I think it's a great idea!
T34695 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34695 has been assigned to 
me for a while, but I'd use some help.


Il 19/06/2015 16:17, Eduardo Testart ha scritto:

Hi all,

I know this might be a bit off topic but I'll risk it anyways.

One told me a couple weeks ago that CAPTCHA (at least one CAPTCHA) was
created or used to transcribe documents bit by bit, each word you enter
corresponds to a two word link, that when it reaches so many equal
responses is marked as resolved and moved to the next word on a document.

Wouldn't be wonderful if we could use this idea to transcribe documents in
Wikisource, create our own CAPTCHA for the benefit of our own projects.

Also, filling up a CAPTCHA this way, would make it count as one more edit.

Thus we will be more synergetic towards our own efforts, and have a CAPTCHA
might make sense overall if needed.

Please fill free to separate the thread or correct me, since I only used my
friends story as a source.

Best!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

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Negative votes exist for a reason.
Or, let's make voters choose between support and support?

Il 06/06/2015 19:15, Milos Rancic ha scritto:

Moving this discussion into a separate thread, to leave the main one
for best wishes and similar :)

Before I start talking about the voting system itself, I have to say
that, from my personal perspective, I wouldn't imagine better outcome:
a Polish steward (my favorite Wikimedian group :) ), a Croat founder
of Wikidata (whom I consider as a friend) and a very prominent English
Wikipedian, with significant record of working with smaller languages
(BTW, I didn't know that he's a candidate till I saw the results; I
didn't vote, as I still don't think I am able to make informed
decision; useful note: one year out of movement requires more than one
year to be able to fully participate again).

When I read the results for the first time, I thought that it's about
structural changes. However, it was not. Present Board members were
just punished as present board members (some people will always object
your work) with negative votes, as well as Sj was punished with lack
of positive votes because of his laziness :P

The problem is obviously the voting system. And it's one more reason
why standing committee should be created. With more time, they would
know why it's perfect for stewards and why it isn't for any kind of
democratic representatives (including English Wikipedia ArbCom; as far
as I remember, this is exactly the method how en.wp ArbCom is
elected).

Stewards have to be trusted all over the projects and 80% threshold
follows that idea. However, stewards are not reelected, they have to
show to that they are doing good job and there is the space for those
who are doing important, but not visible job. Bottom line is that
stewards themselves decide if somebody would stay a steward or not.
(If there were objections from the community.) And stewards are doing
that job perfectly.

It should be also noted that stewards are elected managers, not
democratic representatives, which Board members and en.wp ArbCom
members are.

This system is bad because of two main reasons: (1) it isn't suitable
for electing democratic representatives; and (2) it's very vulnerable
to abuse, which could easily create negative culture.

Applying this to the democratic elections consistently means one of
two things: we want to have conformists in the Board or we want to
change Board members every two years.

I hope the first is not our idea. The second could be, but two years
in office is too short period of time for a Board member to do
anything substantially. So, this method would be a valid one if the
term of a Board member would be, let's say, four years.

The output of the elections is not democratic, as well. It's obvious
that Maria got the most support and it's 5% more than the first one,
as well as Phoebe had more support than the second one.

While I think that opposing votes are important, they shouldn't be
*that* important. Successful candidate had to gather 3 supporting
votes for every opposing one. If the supporting and opposing votes
have the same weight, it would be more fair.

With the formula S-O, the results would be:
1) Dariusz: 2028-556=1472
2) Maria: 2184-775=1409
3) Phoebe: 1995-714=1281
4) James: 1857-578=1279
5) Denny: 1628-544=1084

And the results would be much more according to the expressed will of
the community: Dariusz is well respected steward and community has
given him a lot of support, and as he is a new candidate he didn't do
anything which would annoy a part of the community. Maria had
significant opposition, but also the biggest number of supporters,
which has to be acknowledged. Phoebe and James would have been very
close, while Denny wouldn't reach support threshold.

If one opposing vote has weight of three supporting votes, this could
easily change the strategy of the groups interested to see one of
their candidates as Board members. Instead of vote for, we'd get
vote against attitude. That's not just abusive toward the system,
but also creates negative atmosphere, where candidates and supporting
groups could start looking into each other as enemies, not as fellow
Wikimedians.

So, while the current voting system has given refreshing results, it
would be bad to keep it as it's now. To be honest, I would avoid
negative votes at all, as I am sure that even more fair system would
be implemented, if it contains negative votes next time, we'll get
much more negative votes than this time, with negative consequences
for our culture.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a lot of personal opinions on the method, questions process, etc.
Many of them will be shared in the committee's post mortem (others I will
be discarding as I now process the last several weeks).

Also, we are beginning to post some statistics that folks may find helpful:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Stats

We 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia store relaunch

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Il 21/04/2015 23:13, Victoria Shchepakina ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

The Wikipedia store has been relaunched. We closed doors temporarily for a
few months to redesign the website and also to introduce new items.
Besides, we wanted to re-think our store structure and visual identity, as
well as provide creative items made in partnership with socially
responsible and mission aligned partners. So check us out
https://store.wikimedia.org/!

As a reminder, the store is engaged in giveaway programs rewarding
volunteers, supporting editathons and engaging in hackathons and other
community conferences. As usual, all sales support and reward contributors
all over the world.

The Wikipedia store looks forward to collaborating with the community,
vendors, designers, artists, and people with similar visions to create
meaningful merchandise for our community and readers. Soon you will see
creative representations of Wikipedia and its sister projects originating
from these collaborations. The vision for our merchandise is to motivate
you and people around you to help spread knowledge via Wikimedia projects.

Wikipedia volunteers are special. Without them, we would not exist. We
can’t thank them enough - but we’re trying. That’s why we created the
Merchandise
Giveaway Program https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways,
amongst other giveaway projects. Through it, any Wikipedia user can
nominate a Wikipedia contributor to receive a free gift in the mail.


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways#Can_I_nominate_someone_from_the_X_language_Wikipedia_or_Y_Wikimedia_project_.3F



Spread the word about the Wikipedia store https://store.wikimedia.org/
and please follow us @wikipediastore on Twitter
https://twitter.com/Wikipediastore and on Instagram
https://instagram.com/wikipediastore/!

Thank you!

Best,

Victoria Shchepakina


Fundraising Associate
Wikimedia Foundation
office +1 (415) 839 6885

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

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Erik,
your huge success record proves that the superprotect issue can only be 
a faux pas.

Have a good journey, 

Il 13/04/2015 20:06, Lila Tretikov ha scritto:

Dear Wikimedians,

I have some important news to share with you. Erik Moeller will be leaving
the Wikimedia Foundation on April 30th. Last week he let me know that he
decided it is time for him to explore his passions beyond our walls.

I want to thank Erik. For more than a decade, he gave his all to Wikimedia
-- first as a volunteer, then as a board member, and finally as a leader at
the WMF. For the past year, has been my personal guide, particularly in my
critical few months as the ED.

Earlier this year, I announced a Call to Action
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/State_of_the_Wikimedia_Foundation#2015_Call_to_Action
designed to organize the WMF around focus on product and communities. We
have already started putting some of these key initiatives into place.

In February, we brought the key community-facing functions into one team,
Community Engagement under Luis Villa, to improve support for community
needs and priorities. In March, we brought on Terry Gilbey as our new Chief
Operating Officer, to improve our organizational effectiveness, and
introduce rigor and discipline into our operational processes, metrics, and
reporting. And just two weeks ago, we introduced Kourosh Karimkhany as our
new Vice President of Strategic Partnerships, to build meaningful
partnerships, projects, and relationships that advance our mission.

Improving technology and execution are a major part of our Call to Action,
and I have been working with Erik, Damon, and others to determine our path
forward. Erik has been a key thought partner and thought leader in this
effort. We are near completion in this planning, and I look forward to
sharing more information with you all next Tuesday.

I am excited to see Erik’s next incredible adventure. Please join me in
supporting him on his path.

Lila
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright status of the mobile application button icons?

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Il 18/04/2015 21:01, Dan Garry ha scritto:

On 18 April 2015 at 11:32, Aleksey Biloguraleksey.bilo...@gmail.com
wrote:


I want to use it to illustrate something I'm building in the Wikipedia
domain on the en-wiki, so I'd like to know this for sure. Who's a good
person to ask; or, will they come here instead? :)

I thought that WMF logos can be used freely within the projects, however
that's arranged legally, and thought it was strange that this would be an
exception.

You can use Wikimedia trademarks on a Wikimedia site without asking anyone.
See here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#trademark-allowed

Dan



IANAL, but I know for sure that trademark status and copyright status 
are different things. And this thread is definitely asking for the latter...


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 60 Minutes episode link

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Il 06/04/2015 02:17, Kevin Rutherford ha scritto:

Hey all,

Here is a link to the segment that just aired earlier tonight that Katherine 
mentioned earlier today. There are also some bonus bits on the side, and it 
lasts for under fifteen minutes, so check it out when you have a moment as it 
features a lot of footage from last year’s Wikimania: 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikipedia-jimmy-wales-morley-safer-60-minutes/

Kevin Rutherford
Ktr101


Yay Viagra ads!
Damn, Flash...

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

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Il 20/03/2015 14:39, Amir E. Aharoni ha scritto:

My personal thanks to the people who develop Pywikibot, thanks to which
uploading 48 huge files to Commons was easy (and indeed, possible - one of
them is over 100MB).


\o/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

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Il 04/03/2015 17:44, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each 
made more then 38000 edits.
Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has  left (in 2009) making 
97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only 
about 6 out of 10 is still active.


Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you 
are fully addicted to Wikipedia (until death do us part)?



Anders


I've just exceeded 38000 global edits 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ricordisamoa. I'm 
done for!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New template URL to diff

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Il 25/02/2015 10:49, Andy Mabbett ha scritto:

On 25 February 2015 at 07:27, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:


I'd rather suggest a global JavaScript gadget to replace those URLs with
plain Special:Diff links, since the {{diff}} template does not work in
every
wiki.

Great; let me know when you've got that working.


That's it:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/DiffAutoLinker.js

So? Have you ever tried it?

No. Is it a global gadget, yet?


We don't have actual global gadgets yet, but this code will work on Meta:

importScript( 'User:Ricordisamoa/DiffAutoLinker.js' );
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who are the nicest people on our projects ?

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Thanks Fæ, those reports are very interesting from my perspective. 
However, even though the number of thanks received may be more reliable 
than the usual edit count, none of them could ever measure the 
invaluable impact of our contributors :-)


Il 23/02/2015 16:57, Fæ ha scritto:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Faebot/thanks

I have now set up a monthly report of the top 10 thankers /
thankees with an index to the different project reports on the above
link. These have been generated retrospectively for 2014 and I will
shortly set this up on WMF labs to run at the beginning of each month
to add last month's results.*

Rather than running this automatically for several hundred projects, I
am happy to add projects on request (so long as the thanks extension
is being regularly used by more than 10 people!). Just drop a note on
my meta talk page to request the addition. I have haphazardly picked 6
of the busiest projects to get started on, mainly as a multi-language
test, not because I favour one language Wikipedia over another. :-)

Time for someone to create a thank you barnstar of super thanks ?

This is one of many ad-hoc reports run as Faebot, but if it becomes
especially useful or critical to outreach projects I'll consider
moving a stable version to a special bot account or similar.

* - At the time of writing, the tables for 2014 are being generated.
This may take the rest of the day to complete! If your project has
recently been added, the reports might have to wait for the next
monthly run depending on how much free wiki-time I have.

Fae

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New template URL to diff

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Il 02/01/2015 13:41, Ricordisamoa ha scritto:

Il 02/01/2015 12:45, Andy Mabbett ha scritto:
On 2 January 2015 at 10:46, Ricordisamoa 
ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:



Honestly, I don't think it is easier to type {{subst:url to diff}} than
[[Special:Diff]].

It's not a matter of which is eaier to type. It's a matter of which is
the easier way for non techncial editrs to convert the URL in their
clipboard to something that we prefer on-wiki.

I'd rather suggest a global JavaScript gadget to replace those URLs 
with
plain Special:Diff links, since the {{diff}} template does not work 
in every

wiki.

Great; let me know when you've got that working.

That's it: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/DiffAutoLinker.js

So? Have you ever tried it?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Knowledge Assembly Platfrom

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There is some feedback on the respective talk page 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Knowledge_assembly_Platfrom.


Il 11/02/2015 16:00, Guenter ha scritto:

Dear all,
I would like to welcome comments to my project 
proposal(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_assembly_Platfrom)
Best regards,
Simon Günter
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[Wikimedia-l] WMF has lost its path

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It is now clear that the superprotect affair was only a preliminary move.
Now they hide themselves behind a collective account 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:WMFOffice issuing batches of 
global locks 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALogtype=globalauthuser=WMFOfficeyear=2015month=1 
and writing boilerplate replies 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WMFOfficediff=10982297.
As with the superprotect, the how is to blame, not the what. Note that I 
do not object global locks at all.
What I object is the lack of a published reason for them, and the 
community interaction that Lila called so deeply for.
They can play with the Terms Of Use, protecting any page on any project 
and global-locking any account to protect the integrity and safety of 
the site and users, actually at their sole discretion.
The breach of trust is complete now. The only thing that may stop me 
from leaving the projects for good is my loyalty to the volunteer community.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WikiProject X

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Il 13/01/2015 23:24, James Hare ha scritto:

(Standard apology for cross-posting.)

Greetings everyone!

I am pleased to announce a new project, WikiProject X, funded by a Wikimedia 
Foundation Individual Engagement Grant. WikiProject X's goal is to improve the 
experience of WikiProjects, which are subject-area (or goal-oriented) 
collaborative spaces on the English Wikipedia. By making WikiProjects easier to 
use and maintain, it will be easier to build sub-communities of like-minded 
people, giving editors a sense of community on a huge and daunting website like 
Wikipedia. This includes mechanisms for recruiting new participants and 
encouraging the creation of safe spaces where editors, new and experienced 
alike, can feel like they can participate in discussions without fear of 
intimidation or jargon.

The project will begin with some research, both qualitative research in the 
form of interviews and case studies, and quantitative research based on 
Wikipedia’s database. Our focus will be on WikiProjects that have been 
successful in organizing editors, and learning more about what makes them work. 
Based on this research, we will develop new tools and interfaces that make 
WikiProjects easier to use and easier to maintain. Please note that this is an 
opt-in program for WikiProjects; no WikiProject will be required to make 
changes.

I would like to invite the community to check out our new page on Wikipedia, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X (shortcut WP:WPX). 
There, you can share your experiences with WikiProjects and sign up to become a pilot 
tester. Community participation is crucial for the success of this project, and the 
more voices we hear, the better.

If you want to sign up for more updates, sign up for our newsletter here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X/Newsletter.

Please let me know if you have any questions. I am very much looking forward to 
working with everyone on making this project succeed!


Cheers,
James Hare
Project Manager, WikiProject X
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X
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Sounds like just another enwiki-specific thing.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group

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Thanks for the notice. I unsubscribed some hours ago and got 
resubscribed again...


Il 07/01/2015 19:26, Austin Hair ha scritto:

You may have already received a message indicating that you've been
added to the Wikimedia-l Google Group; if not, you likely will soon.

In case it's not clear, this Google Group is in no way affiliated with
Wikimedia-l, the Wikimedia Foundation, me, or anybody you'd ever want
to be friends with.

If you do find yourself subscribed, I strongly urge you not to engage
in any way. Report it to Google (not to me or the list) as an abusive
subscription using the link at the bottom of the message, and leave it
be.

If you find yourself being impersonated or wrongly implicated in this
latest round of troublemaking, don't fret. Nobody will hold it against
you, and in fact you'll have everyone's sympathies.

Austin

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New template URL to diff

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Il 02/01/2015 12:45, Andy Mabbett ha scritto:

On 2 January 2015 at 10:46, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote:


Honestly, I don't think it is easier to type {{subst:url to diff}} than
[[Special:Diff]].

It's not a matter of which is eaier to type. It's a matter of which is
the easier way for non techncial editrs to convert the URL in their
clipboard to something that we prefer on-wiki.


I'd rather suggest a global JavaScript gadget to replace those URLs with
plain Special:Diff links, since the {{diff}} template does not work in every
wiki.

Great; let me know when you've got that working.

That's it: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa/DiffAutoLinker.js


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] My suggestion - Wiki Algorithms

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Ever seen Rosetta Code http://rosettacode.org? I think it already 
fulfills your proposal.


Il 25/12/2014 19:57, Andrzej Borucki ha scritto:

Purpose: big set of algorithms and its implementations. Descriptions of
algorithms should be in various human languages and implementations in many
computer languages. Each algorithm will be described clear and easy as to
possible with sample code. This source code also should editable by many
users and under Apache or similar licence to use it in free or commercial
product.
I have written about my Wiki-Algorithm proposoal in
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAlgorithms.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0

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Il 27/10/2014 18:51, Yana Welinder ha scritto:

Hi folks,

I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
Thanks! This puts an end to discussions and proposals to host that logos 
on a separate project (such as Allrightsreserved 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Allrightsreserved).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of Delphine Ménard, Lodewijk Gelauff and Bence Damokos as AffCom Advisers

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Il 29/11/2014 20:09, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:

Dear all,

Recently the Affiliations Commitee, in order to improve its governance 
and in its need for improvement and organizational advise, voted in 
favor of appointing Delphine Ménard [1], Lodewijk Gelauff [2] and 
Bence Damokos [3] as non-voting advisers . They have provided this 
committee during their respective tenures as full members of this 
committee with invaluable expertise, governance advise and language 
and communication skills. Hence, this committee has decided to appoint 
them as advisers for a term ending on Deceber 31, 2016.


Many thanks in advance to Delphine, Lodewijk and Bence for their 
contributions and support to the Affiliations Committee. And of 
course, congratulations!


Best regards,
Carlos

1: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Appointment_of_Delphine_M%C3%A9nard_as_adviser_%E2%80%93_November_2014
2: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Appointment_of_Delphine_M%C3%A9nard_as_adviser_%E2%80%93_November_2014

I think it should be:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Appointment_of_Lodewijk_Gelauff_as_adviser_%E2%80%93_November_2014
3: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Appointment_of_Bence_Damokos_as_adviser_%E2%80%93_November_2014 





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

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Yes, that would be desirable.
However, I don't mind if WMF employees use their staff account to vote, 
provided that it meets eligibility criteria because of edits or patches.


Il 07/10/2014 09:50, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel ha scritto:

Hey,

After reading all the emails so far, I more and more thinking that the
correct way will be to remove the specific WMF criteria - allowing every
community member to participate in the election by voting using his
*personal* (not staff/dev account), what give the same equal power to staff
from the WMF and chapters, such as every personal volunteer in the
Wikimedia community have.

I hope next year election committee will take it in consideration.




*Regards,Itzik Edri*
Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel
+972-(0)-54-5878078 |http://www.wikimedia.org.il
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment!


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

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Il 26/08/2014 12:18, Craig Franklin ha scritto:

The editor retention problem will not be solved with technological gizmos
and doodads, nor with top-down solutions imposed from above.  It will be
solved with positive human contact and creating a collaborative community
that people actually want to be a part of, rather than one that they put up
with.
This makes my first RFBOT on the Italian Wikipedia 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot/Autorizzazioni/Archivio/2013#SamoaBot 
come to my mind.
I was much less experienced than now, and ended up flooding Recent 
Changes. A bureaucrat threatened 
https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=56154161oldid=5615 to 
block me, and I even retired 
https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=56157910 for a day.

But I was already 'addicted' to Wikipedia and came back soon after.

Thanks to that episode, I gradually became a quite experienced operator. 
But... how many users would have given up in my place?

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