Re: [ZION] Starts with G "guests"
At 05:25 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote: Tom Matkin wrote: Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while) by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002 Some children live for only just a while Mere visitors not really part of us Perhaps they've proved themselves without this trial Not needing but a touch of all this fuss. It wounds us when they get their final call We grieve and fret and feel the hand of pain Invested as we are in loving all It hurts, but it's our duty to remain. We know they meet with glory where they go They lose no blessings from their shortened stay And leave their touch of heaven's love below To spark resolve to live a better way. So one day when our earthly stay is done Brief guests and us can once again be one. Ditto -- Lew -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Starts with G "guests"
Tom Matkin wrote: Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while) by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002 Some children live for only just a while Mere visitors not really part of us Perhaps they've proved themselves without this trial Not needing but a touch of all this fuss. It wounds us when they get their final call We grieve and fret and feel the hand of pain Invested as we are in loving all It hurts, but it's our duty to remain. We know they meet with glory where they go They lose no blessings from their shortened stay And leave their touch of heaven's love below To spark resolve to live a better way. So one day when our earthly stay is done Brief guests and us can once again be one. This was truly beautiful, Tom. Thanks. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "guests"
I guess I hit the "enter" button too soon on that last post. Here's the meat in the sandwich. Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while) by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002 Some children live for only just a while Mere visitors not really part of us Perhaps they've proved themselves without this trial Not needing but a touch of all this fuss. It wounds us when they get their final call We grieve and fret and feel the hand of pain Invested as we are in loving all It hurts, but it's our duty to remain. We know they meet with glory where they go They lose no blessings from their shortened stay And leave their touch of heaven's love below To spark resolve to live a better way. So one day when our earthly stay is done Brief guests and us can once again be one. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "guests"
"I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "grout, grains and glue"
Ah - the joy of levels of meaning in a parable about grout, grains of sand and glue. Sonnet III by Tom Matkin - July 19, 2001 When setting tile and filling in the grout To wipe away each extra grain of sand And clean inevitable messes out I always keep a dampish rag on hand. I've found that there is need to be in haste To clean the imperfections that adhere Lest they should set and ever after waste By showing smudges where it should be clear. Because when working in the dust and glue There is no end to ways the sticky stuff Can build up on the tiles and on you And make what you want smooth back into rough. The only hope for me to keep my tiling nice Is in this good advice: Slop once. Clean twice. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Starts with G "Gap"
At 01:24 AM 11/13/2003 +, Uncle Tom, the Gapper wrote: Usually one is disturbed by widening gaps and happier about narrowing gaps. But sometimes it's the other way around. Till has been ever mindful of the widening gap between those who choose good and those who choose evil. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Starts with G "Gap"
Don't forget the greed gap. That is the difference between a man's physiological needs, and his psychological needs for a particular standard of living. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "Gap"
I love it when a baseball diamond has a section of the outfield sold to "The Gap". I used to know what the Cumberland Gap was about, but it has left me. There's a place near here called Whiskey Gap, but there's only one house left there, and it's the old church now converted into a home. It's just 5 miles east of Immigration Gap, which never did have even one house, but was the place where the first settlers of Southern Alberta, coming from the south, crossed into Canada. A few people still cross there, apparently, although there is no legitimate border crossing there. Most of the traffic is in the night, I suppose. People speak of "closing" or "bridging" the gap. Orthodontists, I understand, are dedicated to eliminating the gap. The only gap in scripture is in Ezekiel: Ezekiel 22:30 30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. I have no idea what that means. President Benson said that in the true Latter Day Saint home there was no such thing as a generation gap. John P. Grier (whoever that was) said that that "the biggest gap in the world is the gap between the justice of a cause and the motives of the people pushing it" I suppose he knew what he was talking about. I could say what I think about the credibility gap, but I don't think you would believe me. Some people try to study the culture gap between indiginous peoples and European Americans, but the gap all but precludes any significant acculturation or accommodation, according to some experts. A spark can leap a gap, but probably not an alarming gap or even an ominous gap. Some desperate people turn to a stop-gap solution. Some apographical writings bridge the intertestamental gap. Usually one is disturbed by widening gaps and happier about narrowing gaps. But sometimes it's the other way around. George Orwell wrote that "The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns, as it were instinctively, to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuddlefish squirting out ink." That fills the gap for me. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "Grief"
I wrote this about 10 years ago, but I still remember why I wrote it. Turns out the brass ring did swing back and I caught it (or it caught me). It was worth the wait, but the point the poem makes still applies... in many cases. The Grief of Missing by Tom Matkin The grief of missing The brass ring As it swings So very Close Is Known To us all. We watch it swing Within our Grasp And In An Instant It will fly away Much further than ever before. But as we study times When magically The ring Was In Our Hand to stay! We must admit that many times The happier Chance Was In Missing. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Giving"
You're giving spirit is, ah, catching. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Matkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ZION] Starts with G "Giving" > > > This isn't the way I feel today, but it's a sentiment that I understand > about giving. > > Sonnet 180 (I'm snuggled in a cotton batting bath) > By Tom Matkin, June 6, 2002 > > I'm snuggled in a cotton batting bath > My senses stuffed with wool and fire in one > A victim of some tiny microbe's wrath > My goose is more than cooked, it's overdone. > I'm tippy, wonky, staggering and faint > I'm cloudy, foggy, slow and overcast > I hesitate to make this a complaint > But now my eyes aren't focusing, they're glassed! > I could go home and take a proper pill > To put an end to notice of my pain > But if I did then how could I fulfill > My duty to extend this flu-like chain? > > Tis better to be giving than to get > And so I'll put some others in my debt. > > Tom > > "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her > executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great > comfort!" (The Little Princess) > > // > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > // > /// > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "Giving"
This isn't the way I feel today, but it's a sentiment that I understand about giving. Sonnet 180 (I'm snuggled in a cotton batting bath) By Tom Matkin, June 6, 2002 I'm snuggled in a cotton batting bath My senses stuffed with wool and fire in one A victim of some tiny microbe's wrath My goose is more than cooked, it's overdone. I'm tippy, wonky, staggering and faint I'm cloudy, foggy, slow and overcast I hesitate to make this a complaint But now my eyes aren't focusing, they're glassed! I could go home and take a proper pill To put an end to notice of my pain But if I did then how could I fulfill My duty to extend this flu-like chain? Tis better to be giving than to get And so I'll put some others in my debt. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas"
> -Original Message- > From: Tom Matkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas" > > > > Ron Scott wrote: > > But Bette Midler on ZION? Oy vey!The last time I saw > > her live, she was strutting, singing and steaming before a crowd of > > nearly-nekkid men at The Continental Baths in Manhattan. The things that > > reporters have to endure to earn a living: sigh. > > > > Was she cooing "You are the Wind Beneath my Feet...er... Wings?" that > would have been an endurance contest. Nah, it was long before she turned to Muzak, years before she played Janice. Her voice was strong, the words were bawdy, bluesy and torchy, and the setting was decidedly edgy, even for Manhattan. But, the fans loved her...and so did I and I was wearing considerably more than a towell and flip-flops. RBS // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas"
> -Original Message- > From: Tom Matkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas" > > > Swans are Everything, Everything I Wish I Could Be > by Tom Matkin, October 25, 2001 > > I'll bet a day will come some time > When swans will be considered prime > When long necked birds will rule the roost > And man will be in deep decline. > > With human influ'nce thus reduced > Economies will get a boost > And green house gasses pass along > Except for what a swan's produced. > > And finally that true swan song > That one so simple, yet too long > About the wind beneath your wings > Won't seem so obviously wrong. > > So every time Bette Midler sings > About the shadow her wing brings > I think of swans and gas and things > I think of swans and gas and things. > > Tom Interesting, moving. But Bette Midler on ZION? Oy vey!The last time I saw her live, she was strutting, singing and steaming before a crowd of nearly-nekkid men at The Continental Baths in Manhattan. The things that reporters have to endure to earn a living: sigh. RBS // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas"
Ron Scott wrote: > But Bette Midler on ZION? Oy vey!The last time I saw > her live, she was strutting, singing and steaming before a crowd of > nearly-nekkid men at The Continental Baths in Manhattan. The things that > reporters have to endure to earn a living: sigh. > Was she cooing "You are the Wind Beneath my Feet...er... Wings?" that would have been an endurance contest. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts with G "Green House Gas"
Swans are Everything, Everything I Wish I Could Be by Tom Matkin, October 25, 2001 I'll bet a day will come some time When swans will be considered prime When long necked birds will rule the roost And man will be in deep decline. With human influ'nce thus reduced Economies will get a boost And green house gasses pass along Except for what a swan's produced. And finally that true swan song That one so simple, yet too long About the wind beneath your wings Won't seem so obviously wrong. So every time Bette Midler sings About the shadow her wing brings I think of swans and gas and things I think of swans and gas and things. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Starts with G "Grateful"
Tom, you crack me up! And I thought false churches were a problem. Maybe the problem is all us monkeys here below. --JWR Tom Matkin wrote: Top ten reasons why I'm grateful not to be working in New Delhi 10.Those pesky monsoons. 9. Those pesky cows. 8. What those pesky cows leave behind. 7.One word. Curry. 6.Plodding elephants in the bus lane. 5.Plodding elephants in the commuter lane. 4.Plodding elephants in the bike paths. 3.Too far to travel to the Stake Centre. 2.I'm unaccustomed to the heat. And the NO. 1 reason I'm grateful not to work in New Delhi: One word. Monkeys! http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3340136,00.html Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Starts with G "Grateful"
Top ten reasons why I'm grateful not to be working in New Delhi 10.Those pesky monsoons. 9. Those pesky cows. 8. What those pesky cows leave behind. 7.One word. Curry. 6.Plodding elephants in the bus lane. 5.Plodding elephants in the commuter lane. 4.Plodding elephants in the bike paths. 3.Too far to travel to the Stake Centre. 2.I'm unaccustomed to the heat. And the NO. 1 reason I'm grateful not to work in New Delhi: One word. Monkeys! http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3340136,00.html Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts With G "Gulf"
Natasha is still holding my Gossip post I see. For today I'll just dredge up an old poem that I wrote earlier this year. It covers the Gulf subject quite well. Sonnet 277 1 Nephi 15:28 By Tom Matkin March 28, 2003 Along each briny ocean beach and shore There's straits and inlets, seas and sounds and bays And also, everywhere, there's gulfs galore They're quite the widespread geographic craze. The Gulf of Mexico is one we know The Gulf of Bothnia a rarer brand And ev'ry map will almost surely show A Gulf in Aden, Oman, and Thailand. The Persian Gulf, just now, is really strong The Gulf of Guinea never had a voice But there's no greater gulf in word or song Than that which comes from exercise of choice. Between the saints of God and wicked ends: The awful Gulf of Misery, my friends. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Starts With G "Garden"
Yesterday I posted a little note on "Gossip" but somehow Natasha hasn't got it yet. If it doesn't make the list by Monday I'll repost. Today G stands for Garden. I thought about this as I was leaving the temple this morning after doing 3 endowment sessions. Come to think of it the morning was spent by the time I left the temple, so correct that to 'this afternoon'. Anyway G stands for garden. That wonderful place where if we will just put the right conditions into place the Lord will provide a miracle. In a garden you must prepare the soil, water it, fertilize it and protect it from infestations of weeds. (One of my favorite rhyming axioms; A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds.") And a garden needs rest. Mine is resting under two feet of snow just now. But in a few months, if I do my part the Lord will produce the great miracle of new life and beauty (I'm a flower man as much as a vegetable raiser. Another verse: Mistress Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow?) How does your garden grow? If you put the conditions right, God will provide you a miracle of new life and beauty. Each of us is a garden waiting to produce beautiful flowers, sweet fruit and wholesome food, if we will just put the conditions right. Storms and droughts and whirlwinds may set us back for a season, but over a lifetime a lot of great produce can come from any well kept garden... or from any well ordered life that allows God to direct it. Tom "I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort!" (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] Starts With G
Well Tom, you say count and I say confirm, but either way I am happy to still be speculating on that, rather than having a sure knowledge. At your suggestion, and after some thought, I have repeated the email I sent to the other list for the edification, I hope, of these good list members. Folks, I would like to take a bit of your time to share the past few weeks with you. I would like you to know of the great blessing I have received. First I am beyond OK, although at first it did not seem that I would be able to say so in such a short time. All of the tests and pathology reports came back in the best possible language. They could not have been better. So Hoo Ray!!! Hoo Ray!!! Hoo Ray for me On Oct 8th I went in for a routine colonoscopy, I had no symptoms and no reason for any sort of fear. Afterward the doctor told me how lucky I was, that if I had not had the test then I likely would have developed Cancer unknown, and would have been dead in a year. On friday they tried to call me but were unable to reach me until I returned the call on Monday Morning. I was told that the 2cm polpyl that they had taken out was Cancerous. I do not understate it when I say I was a bit scared. Spent a bit of time as I worked that day with tears in my eyes as I thought of all the horrible implications. Monday I had a appt with my regular doctor and scheduled a visit with the surgeon the next day. ***First significant event. That night I was restless and unable to sleep and found myself in prayer. I will not relate the sacred and strong events of that night as I hope to have many more similiar events. I will tell you that God bore witness to me that I was OK, He truly loved me and my family, and that I had nothing to fear as it was not my time to go - even though I expressed a willingness to do so. I NEVER had a moment of concern after that moment. If nothing else had happened in regard to these events this night with my Father in Heaven would have made all else worth it. Can you understand what I am saying? To receive such a witness is worth any price. Tuesday - saw the Surgeon and scheduled Surgery for Thursday mid day. ***Second significant event. I had all my family gather at my home and we told them what was going on with their Father. I have five kids. Three I can brag about with the best of you. They do everything right. Two are a bit of a challenge - and I look for opportunities to testify to them of what is important to me. Family, Church, Priesthood. We had my two worthy sons bless me and then had a family prayer. My kids all organized themselve to cover the children and allow the one couple to proceed with previous plans in spite of Dad not being available. Who was touched most, you ask? Guess who - you are right the two I want to witness to the most. You see, once again, if nothing else had happened in regard to these events save the influence I am able to have on my two problems, it would have been worth it. Can you see how I am blessed? Cat Scan on Wednesday and Surgery on Thursday. All goes well and recovery is remarkable. I went in healthy and did what I was told. I heal quick. ***Third significant event. Simple story - profound meanings. As I was lieing in bed healing in the hospital my wife was making phone calls doing some Visiting Teaching follow up. I must of moved or groaned or something. She wondered if she was bothering me with the sound of the phone calls. The most profound feelings of love and appreciation for this woman came over me and I realized how the exact opposite was true. The sound of HER voice was the healing influence I needed. I have always loved my wife, but for that moment I knew how important she really was to me, Once again this event alone would have made the experience worth the trial. Out of the hospital in four days instead of eight having never really having pain and only a little discomfort. I am doing fine although I do get tired easy. More than I had ever imagined before I know what is meant by being blessed by our trials. The trials and suffering, whether great or as in my case very small, truly do bring the blessing of heaven. I understand more that ever how people say they would never give up the tough experience they have had. I love God, and more importantly I know He loves me. What more could I ask for??? Bless you all, I hope I have not rambled on incessantly. Thanks for your concerns, George - Original Message - From: "Tom Matkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Starts With G > > Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be in > the > > good column, > > > > George > > Of course! G is for George. George the good. Or - Good Old George. Yes > Jesus love you. You know that, and not just because the bible tells you so. > Hav
RE: [ZION] Starts With G
> At 02:50 PM 10/30/2003 -0700, Uncle Tom Presidente wrote: > >Think of how many things that start with G need to be taught (learned?). > > > > how about galloping gruff gregarious goats? gastric? grease? gangly? > groovy? gravy? garters? oops > > Till Or to put it another way: Should gregarious galloping garters Be considered by us just for starters? Or should greasy gravy Be our first potpourri As we talk about "G" in John's Charters? Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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At 02:50 PM 10/30/2003 -0700, Uncle Tom Presidente wrote: Think of how many things that start with G need to be taught (learned?). how about galloping gruff gregarious goats? gastric? grease? gangly? groovy? gravy? garters? oops Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Are you the one, I thought it was Marc Schindler but am likely mistaken. I am not so sure anyone but me would appreciate your referral. George === Yep, it was me. Positive, for sure. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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> Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be in the > good column, > > George Of course! G is for George. George the good. Or - Good Old George. Yes Jesus love you. You know that, and not just because the bible tells you so. Have you shared your recent experiences with this list George? I was trying so hard to be good and stay under the 5 post minimum on FAIR that I didn't say there how wonderful it was to hear of your blessings. We know you are anxious to get up there and count the degrees of glory and any sub kingdoms for yourself, but it was great to find out that your inevitable has been put off for a while anyway. Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Are you the one, I thought it was Marc Schindler but am likely mistaken. I am not so sure anyone but me would appreciate your referral. George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Starts With G > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:21:49 -0700 George Cobabe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be > > in the > > good column, > > > > George > > And, don't forget I'm the one that told you about the Zion list. > > :-)) > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:21:49 -0700 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be > in the > good column, > > George And, don't forget I'm the one that told you about the Zion list. :-)) Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Tom Matkin wrote: Think about gird, gathering, and gulf. Ah yes, G is where it's at. There's so much to talk about, and we haven't even considered the words that begin with "eh". Er... which Sesame Street character are you? --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be in the good column, George - Original Message - From: "Tom Matkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: [ZION] Starts With G > Think of how many things that start with G need to be taught (learned?). > > There is so much to learn about "God", just as much to know about "good" > or "goodness". What about "gratitude", "grace", "guilt", "gentleness", > or "glory". > > And there are things like "gambling" and "gossip". I have something to > say about them. What is wrong with gambling? I know it's trying to get > something for nothing, at least that's what we are told. But what's so > wrong with that? Besides it isn't strictly true. The gambler does offer > something, actually usually a lot more than he gets. And he certainly > accepts risk. I guess one drawback to gambling is that it seems to be > addictive and win or lose it leads to other undesirable things. The > winner is proud, for absolutely no good reason. The worst sort of > pride. The loser is distraught, for very good reason. The worst sort of > grief. And the loser sometimes tries to cover his or her losses by > stealing or other sad things. You read about that in the paper everyday. > "Bookkeeper at Laundry Indicted for Fraud - Stole over $100,000 to try > to make up for Vegas binges". But really the worst thing about gambling > is that it steals your hope from where it belongs. People who buy > lottery tickets or bet the horses or the football pools do it because > they are hoping it will make them happy. They place their hope on that > winning number to make this life less miserable. This robs them of the > initiative to do the real things that bring happiness, like living the > gospel with exactness and drawing nearer to God. Our hope should be in > Jesus Christ, and Him crucified, not in Friday's 6-49 draw. Where your > (hope for) treasure is, there will your heart be also. You can't serve > God and the Lottery You get the idea. That's why I think gambling is > a pernicious evil, it presents a destructive counterfeit method of > finding relief from the troubles of this world. > > What else is wrong with gambling? > > I'll write about gossip another time. Maybe later today. And gladness, > grudges, guile, gospel, gifts, genealogy, guidance and gross. > > Nice to be back. Natasha kicked me off Zion on her own back near the end > of that brouhaha with George and I could never find the list again. My > version of Topica didn't even show Zion as a place. When Natasha > banishes you she does it right. I did find George again but lost Jim. > Jim stayed right here, right? > > Think about gird, gathering, and gulf. Ah yes, G is where it's at. > There's so much to talk about, and we haven't even considered the words > that begin with "eh". > > Tom > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Think of how many things that start with G need to be taught (learned?). There is so much to learn about "God", just as much to know about "good" or "goodness". What about "gratitude", "grace", "guilt", "gentleness", or "glory". And there are things like "gambling" and "gossip". I have something to say about them. What is wrong with gambling? I know it's trying to get something for nothing, at least that's what we are told. But what's so wrong with that? Besides it isn't strictly true. The gambler does offer something, actually usually a lot more than he gets. And he certainly accepts risk. I guess one drawback to gambling is that it seems to be addictive and win or lose it leads to other undesirable things. The winner is proud, for absolutely no good reason. The worst sort of pride. The loser is distraught, for very good reason. The worst sort of grief. And the loser sometimes tries to cover his or her losses by stealing or other sad things. You read about that in the paper everyday. "Bookkeeper at Laundry Indicted for Fraud - Stole over $100,000 to try to make up for Vegas binges". But really the worst thing about gambling is that it steals your hope from where it belongs. People who buy lottery tickets or bet the horses or the football pools do it because they are hoping it will make them happy. They place their hope on that winning number to make this life less miserable. This robs them of the initiative to do the real things that bring happiness, like living the gospel with exactness and drawing nearer to God. Our hope should be in Jesus Christ, and Him crucified, not in Friday's 6-49 draw. Where your (hope for) treasure is, there will your heart be also. You can't serve God and the Lottery You get the idea. That's why I think gambling is a pernicious evil, it presents a destructive counterfeit method of finding relief from the troubles of this world. What else is wrong with gambling? I'll write about gossip another time. Maybe later today. And gladness, grudges, guile, gospel, gifts, genealogy, guidance and gross. Nice to be back. Natasha kicked me off Zion on her own back near the end of that brouhaha with George and I could never find the list again. My version of Topica didn't even show Zion as a place. When Natasha banishes you she does it right. I did find George again but lost Jim. Jim stayed right here, right? Think about gird, gathering, and gulf. Ah yes, G is where it's at. There's so much to talk about, and we haven't even considered the words that begin with "eh". Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^