Re: [Zope-dev] Change in webmaster position
Thanks for all the hard work Michael! Best, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] new wiki.zope.org editor login
Hey all.. the shared login for wiki.zope.org editing has been discovered by a spammer, so I've changed the password. The login is now zope, edit0r. See the message below for more context. Best, -Simon In 2011/05 I wrote: Dear all, edit spam across the wiki.zope.org wikis, gradually increasing over the years, has reached multiple incidents per day, multiple days per month. Current cleanup procedures take too much time (and are not 100% thorough - spam remains in history) and I don't want to spend time developing cleverer defenses. Therefore, from today making changes on any of the wiki.zope.org wikis requires authentication (a zwiki username cookie is no longer enough.) This marks the transition of our wikis from those early, lowest- possible-barrier-to-entry wiki days, to the modern era of mandatory access control. :-/ Since there is no member management software in place to allow you to self-register, to get a login you'll need to either - - ask an admin to make one for you. The current wiki.zope.org admin users are: Simon Michael, Andreas Jung, Baiju Muthukadan, Sascha Welter, Michael Haubenwallner, Fred Drake, Jim Fulton, Ken Manheimer, Kevin Teague. - - use this generic login: zope, zope. The downside of using this a lot is that edit history will become less useful. Also, on wikis using the default skin (all but the zope3 wiki), to trigger a login prompt you'll need to manually visit some restricted url. Eg append /editform to any page, like so: http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/Zope2Wiki/editform I hope this will stop the spam, and not inconvenience editors too much. Please let me know if you have authenticated and still can't edit. If you are interested in improving this setup, doing any other maintenance of the zope wikis, or taking over as zope wiki czar - please step forward! I'd be happy to mentor and provide all needed support. Best, - -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope 3 wiki update
I've made the zope 3 wiki's skin consistent with the other wikis, leaving the pond design for sole use of the foundation site. I also did a little front page cleanup and updated the intro - corrections welcome. Until some cache expires or can be flushed/restarted by Jens, you might see a messed up display caused by the old stylesheet (http://wiki.zope.org/Zope3Wiki/stylesheet). If so, just shift-reload. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] http://wiki.zope.org readonly?
On 5/18/11 11:38 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Dear all, ... Thanks.. hopefully that explains it. I tried to forward the announcement to this list, but it never appeared. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
Great, GO TEAM! On 5/10/11 2:57 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: And just talk about 'Zope community has grown' instead of starting with Zope Corp. and the Zope community, which I think gives the impression the community is some kind of appendage to Zope corp, the driving force behind it all. While this was true 10 years ago, it isn't today. And Zope corp is a part of the Zope community, right? And we're not talking +1. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
On 5/10/11 11:01 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Please take a cup of coffee and relax. Bah, your suggestions conflict! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Minutes of this weeks meeting
On 4/21/10 7:21 AM, Christian Theune wrote: week and we're back on a text format. Hurrah! :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting
On 4/8/10 8:30 PM, Jan Smith wrote: I've published the irc meeting summaries on the Australian OzZope site - it also has an rss feed available. http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-development-meeting Could this be added to planetzope.org ? The planet's feed is also announced on #zope. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime
On 4/3/10 4:56 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: 27059 simon 20 0 98664 6388 4360 R 100 0.2 43327:19 darcs Ack, my cunning plan to bog down all but the One True VCS is leaking. Must be more *careful*.. But seriously, ha ha ha, no, I have no idea what that process was doing there, sorry all. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager
Terrific. Thanks! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)
+1 for meetings, logs, and summaries! Good job! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting
Excellent, I hope it's a regular feature. The summary should probably go on some blog that will be picked up by planetzope.org/planet.zope.org, too. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager
Great job Andreas, thanks a lot. Best, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
Ravels Bolero (or some part of it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urfjyj4FnUc Or some not so well-known piano music from Rachmaninov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EkeM8Q3Z-A Something more theatralic (at 0:23): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yctfXIqugXc Or this (at 3:37): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwiU6P16xU0 LOVE IT! :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
I really liked that music for Zope. Substantial, timeless, yet also sweet and humorous. :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
Have you considered just Bream ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Defining Zope 3.
Lennart Regebro wrote: So, if I'm gonna act hurt, I'll claim that anybodys opinion here is being disregarded, it's mine. ;-) And I'll state it again, for clarities sake: I think that Zope 3 should be renamed. I proposed Blue Bream (and ... I have still to see any arguments against this. If there are any, Um.. people will laugh at us ? Just my little attempt to inject humour. Sorry Lennart. Blue Bream cracks me up every time I see it. Sorry, sorry. :) This is also a test message to see why my last didn't show up. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Defining Zope 3.
This message seems like a reasonable start to me: Zope 3 has become focused on supporting frameworks and applications, rather than trying to be one itself. It is now called the Zope Toolkit. Parts of it are used by Zope 2, Plone, Grok, Repoze.bfg, and by many other different applications and frameworks. I also like this message because it is simple and positive enough for everyone inside and outside the dev community to understand and buy into. Insiders know that the Toolkit going forward will be much more focussed than old Zope 3 was, but outsiders don't need those details; outsiders certainly won't understand subtle intra-project renamings and dyings. If some of those details are positive selling points, they should appear in the official release notes and announcements. Best - Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project
Boy, there's no point in trying to outrun this thread, I'd better just jump in here. Martin I think you said that very well and I'm convinced. I appreciate and generally support Martijn's proposal. When in doubt, I'd be in favour of emulating what's been shown to work in the Plone community - eg lightweight per-release teams. I guess a responsive, transparent steering group with slower turnover can also be useful, though. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope2docs
Tres Seaver wrote: thanks a lot for the effort that has been put into the new zope documentation. the colors of the index (light green on whit) is uncomfortable to my eyes and +1 and +1. It may be an interim solution, but it's currently the best Zope docs site, and it should be 1-minute job to change the foreground color to black, say. Thanks! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org
Andreas Jung wrote: Everyone is invited to actively participate (means: get an account and add content That needs a little more. First it's not clear how to get an account (currently, add /join_form to the url). Second, after submitting the join form I just got a login form and the account doesn't seem to be created. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope2docs
Andreas Jung wrote: I moved most of the relevant stuff into SVN this afternoon: Ok, were you able to clean up, ie delete, the obsolete content as well ? I think this is an important step we need more of in Zope docs-land. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org
Martijn Faassen wrote: and a Sphinx-based website for official documentation maintained in SVN. +1 of course, Anyway, overall I'm a big supporter of the microsite approach. It's the only approach that actually got us to new web sites over the last years. I must quibble: I agree with you, if by microsite you include the zope wikis. Those new web sites were deployed and answering real-world zope questions long before the others. :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org
Hey Andreas.. yay, thank you for taking this on. I'd like to help however I can. You asked about write access on wiki.zope.org - assuming you mean zope manager access, I've added an account for you, see private mail. (For the record, other manager accounts on wiki.zope.org at this time are: baijum, betabug, d2m, fred, jim, wheat.) I wonder if you mean to repurpose an existing wiki, start a new one, or install some new thing on the filesystem. Looking forward to finding out more. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope2book/trunk/ Lot's of updates over the weekend!
Tres Seaver wrote: I think it is too premature to be moving the DTML chapters out of the book: if we arent just updating the book to be current with 2.12, then we probably need to discuss what kind of book we want, before chopping it apart. and I would rather make the case, explaining the tradeoffs, including the fact that the consensus of the community is as you express, but then let people make up their own minds. +1 to both. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: new zope.org, sphinx, and documentation management
Paul Carduner wrote: consumption than others). Few people know about this because the documentation is not aggregated anywhere (except for some bits on apidoc.zope.org). Not so! I recently did this at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 . I hope it helps you. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Setting the size of a zope.formlib's schema html input
Could someone show me an example of defining a widget to set the size of
the rendered input?
Marcelo, here's what I did:
class PromosEditForm(EditForm):
An edit form to modify promo selection fields.
form_fields = form.FormFields(IContentPromoFields)
def setUpWidgets(self, ignore_request=False):
self.adapters = {
IContentPromoFields:ContentPromoFieldsAdapter(self.context)
}
self.widgets = form.setUpEditWidgets(
self.form_fields, self.prefix, self.context, self.request,
adapters=self.adapters, ignore_request=ignore_request
)
self.label = ...
self.description = \
...
self.widgets['global_promos'].size = 5
etc...
I too would like to see an example of a full custom widget. For example
I'd like to use an AT InOut-style dual list widget.
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[Zope-dev] wiki front page updated
I have updated http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope3Wiki , merging the aforementioned docs overview. http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DocsCleanup talks more about this. I hope you agree, all feedback, improvements and help welcome. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope 3 docs overview
Hi all, I made a first pass at surveying current Zope 3 docs, at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DocsOverview . I think this is more complete and current than other lists I've seen. I hope to keep improving it and use it to guide or possibly just replace other wiki docs. Feedback and help would be welcome. Best, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: wiki.zope.org content licence
The zope2 wiki says All content here is licensed under GFDL unless noted otherwise. The others don't have a license statement as far as I know. When they were hosted on zope.org, they may have fallen under a global content license there. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope (2) collector to launchpad.
This is great, thanks! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: 2.9.4? reStructuredText support?
I'm not sure what effect disabling TTW RST would have on Zwiki. Definitely lots of Zwiki users using and enjoying RST. I think losing include is fine, raw will be missed, but oh well. Thanks for working on this, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: PDBDebugMode 0.1 Release
Paul Winkler wrote: All hail Ken Manheimer, pdbtrack is very cool. HAIL! Also hail Ross and hail Chris. I didn't know about that trick for debugging restricted code with source. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] how to run zope 2.9 testrunner ?
Hi all, I would appreciate it if someone would post a transcript of running product tests with the Zope 2.9 testrunner. Thanks -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: how to run zope 2.9 testrunner ?
Thanks.. that doesn't work for me, ideas anyone ? /zope2$ bin/zopectl test /zope2.9/lib/python/App/ImageFile.py:21: DeprecationWarning: Using OFS.content_types is deprecated (will be re\moved in Zope 2.11). Instead use zope.app.contenttypes. from OFS.content_types import guess_content_type Traceback (most recent call last): File /zope2.9/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py, line 316, in ? main() File /zope2.9/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py, line 277, in main c.onecmd( .join(options.args)) File /usr/lib/python2.3/cmd.py, line 210, in onecmd return func(arg) File /zope2.9/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/zopectl.py, line 243, in do_test assert os.path.exists(script) AssertionError /zope2$ echo $PYTHONPATH /zope2:/zope2.9/lib/python /zope2$ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: how to run zope 2.9 testrunner ?
I got it working by copying $ZOPE_SRC/test.py to $SOFTWARE_HOME/bin. make install doesn't do this - it seems http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1989 was overlooked. Your example got me there, thanks a lot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Interested?] New use for Zope+CMF+Archetypes -- startup time improvements
Go Dieter! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] how to capture testrunner output
Hi all. How would I capture the output of test.py ? 21 seems not to help. Also, shouldn't it exit with a failure code when tests fail ? If anyone has made this work, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Cheers -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: how to capture testrunner output
Simon Michael wrote: Hi all. How would I capture the output of test.py ? 21 seems not to help. AH. 21 must come after , explained in the bash man page. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZPublisher timing hooks ?
Hi all, I'd like to print a this page was rendered in ... milliseconds as you see on php sites. I think I'd get better accuracy by getting at least the start time from ZPublisher because.. actually it may not help, but I'm thinking about the case where a request generates a redirect and another request. I'd like to time the whole thing. Do you know if there are any facilities for this already in ZPublisher ? Any tips or pointers welcome. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: StringIO and Zope
I wonder if there's any connection with http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=983311group_id=5470atid=105470 . ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Bug day report
+1. This happens a bit on plone.org as well. Valid issues get rejected a bit too quickly when they should be left open or clarified further. Since the submitter is relatively powerless in these trackers there is a bad psychological effect. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org
Yeah, this is exactely what I would need. Maybe I could ask someone to install this for me. Mmmhh, ... Hi Stephan.. I'll look into installing it on zopewiki for experiments. If someone wants to enable it on zope.org as well I will support. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?
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[Zope-dev] Re: How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?
The web-based development environment (see demo) of http://wheatfarm.org might be of interest too. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?
Hmm not so easy to find, here it is: http://www.wheatfarm.org/wiki/EinkornServer ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?!
What a great discussion. I'm not sure I can catch up and make a single coherent reply, so I'll just drop this into the stew right here: I think Zope 3 is firmly on the right track. At the same time let us not forget the ideas around http://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html . ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?
Casey Duncan wrote: On a bright note, I think zopewiki.org could change that. It *greatly* lowers the bar on contributing That is exactly the intent. We have needed this since the days of the ZDP. I see no reason why it being or not being on Zope.org is relevant. Its a social thing: Simon decided to do something and had the software, Not *just* social. I would say there seem to be social/structural/technical/perceptual reasons why such a thing simply cannot exist at ZC-managed zope.org right now. So, while zope.org would be the ideal url (and I tried to nudge zope.org in this direction for years without coming across as a zealot) I think there are actually some advantages to having a slightly separate docs site. More modular, scales better. Of course the more integration and interlinking the better. Constructively-intended zope.org criticism: zope.org is the zope community's biggest documentation asset. And yet at this point it is indeed also a big fat piano sitting on the windpipe of zope documentation, and hence the zope community itself. This is despite the best of intentions on all sides. To say (as Stephan has) that it's due to lack of volunteers is wrong. Many of us have tried. Perhaps ZC expects more from a volunteer than is realistic. Compare with other successful successful open source projects. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Core Dump (Zope 2.7, Python 2.3.3, FreeBSD 4.5)
It does sound suspiciously like the freebsd python issue. What do you get in the event log when python crashes ? Is it SIGSEGV(11)/SIGBUS(10) or whatever ? This tends not to get triggered with a zeo debug prompt, for whatever reason. To find out, you could: - rebuild python with a very large stack - 1Mb *should* be enough - rebuild python with debugging symbols, then run python/zope with gdb and see what the stack trace says when it crashes. - sprinkle the zope code with log statements until you narrow down where the crash is happening. If it's the stack thing, it's probably in a call to the re module. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] helper script for permission renames ?
Upgrading a product whose permissions have been renamed can be a pain.. you lose your permissions settings and have to recreate them. Has anyone seen a script that would walk the zodb and replicate the old permission settings under the new name ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Catalog performance
John Barratt wrote: the problem (which seems likely) then you can ghostify the objects that were ghosts to begin with, and it will save memory (unless all those objects are already in cache). This is rather interesting, but I don't quite follow what's happening. If you can say a little more, or suggest a doc reference, I'm all ears. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Catalog performance
John - your post and the links helped a lot. Thanks! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Bugfix release?
I'll drop in another (and final) plug for the one-line change needed to undo the harmful http://collector.zope.org/Zope/432 . Andreas, it looked like you were going to fix this for 2.6.0 . Did it slip through the cracks or are you having second thoughts ? Recap: Andreas made ' take precedence over everything including sgml tags, breaking dtml python expressions in zwiki stx pages. I've since found an easy way to work around this for zwiki, but it adds one more behavioural difference code duplication between zwiki's and zope's stx. Better to avoid this. Regards - Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: 2.6.1 Plan?
Hi all - can we get the http://collector.zope.org/Zope/432 fix into 2.6.1 *cough*andreas*cough*. This undoes a regression that currently requires all zwiki users to patch their zope source. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Plone/Metadata/FUD
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[Zope-dev] Re: Future of StructuredText
Andreas Jung wrote: I would be fine to have reStructuredText inside the Zope core (for 2.7) and to deprecate the current StructuredText in the long run. My two cents - there are some things in rST I would like to have but I think it has gone too far with it's rules. If I had to choose one or the other right now I would stick with stxNG for simplicity and because it doesn't dictate things unnecessarily. I think the number one problem with stx for most people is the indenting hassle. These markups are evolving and I don't think we've seen the best designs yet. http://repose.cx/emacs/wiki/wikimarkup.pt is another which feels good to me, check it out. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Future of StructuredText
R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it would be really sad. So if that is a ruling criterion, I'd vote for two versions of structured text, preferably with a translator between them. Well, it would be easy enough (or maybe not, with current stx code) for structured text to accept either indentation or rST-style underlining to indicate headers. I wonder if it's possible to design a system that doesn't require indentation at all, but allows it as an alternate mechanism - without causing more confusion. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-dev]Project manager ala Sourceforge in Zope ??
And you could take a look at http://zwiki.org/ZwikiTracker . Cheers -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope logic
Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at the zope.org logs, I once saw GoogleBot generate URLs like this to zope.org of 1000 characters or more. I had this too, leading to heavy traffic what's more. Cf http://zwiki.org/TheRobotProblem. Since then, as a temporary measure I set the no robots meta header in standard_wiki_header. Also, I cleaned up various link holes that would lead to infinite urls, using page_url() and wiki_url(). Finally, all wiki links were changed to use absolute urls (now optional). These things should help, and in fact it should be safe to allow google into a modern zwiki. Back to the original poster: yes, to avoid getting hammered by search engines it is necessary to make sure you expose no links leading to infinite urls. This may not be as hard as you think. Hackers can make up urls, but search engines don't (yet). -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: 2.3.3 - 2.5.1b2 upgrade problem
R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably, but I naively imagined that I was sophisticated enough to be finding a real problem...but I'm obviously not smart enough to realize that a breakage this fundamental could be due to a package like ZDebug. I wasn't either.. I think the word is getting around now, but it would be great to see ZDebug updated to work with newer zope versions. I really miss it. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] help! I've broken refresh
And life is just not the same without it! I had auto refresh working fine until recently. Today, if I change a py file I see the pyc file being regenerated, but only when I do a manual refresh. And I do not see the effect of the changes until I do a full zope restart. FWIW, several things happened lately: - I cleaned out some shadowed older product versions from /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products - I experimented with ZEO (but I'm not running it now), and - I rearranged the product quite a lot. __init__.py was changed, modules were split up, imports moved around, and there is a new sub-package tests which also contains a refresh.txt. Does this sound familiar to anyone ? -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: help! I've broken refresh
Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you running Zope 2.4.x? If so, don't install the Refresh product, since the functionality is now built-in. No, 2.3.3. Or maybe the refresh product isn't initializing... ? hmm it looks normal. Perhaps it's something to do with today's date. -SM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] experimental zwiki chat mode
FYI - http://zwiki.org/ChatMode : ChatMode is an experimental port of Jim Washington's clever !ZRTChat product:http://www.zope.org/Members/jwashin/ZRTChat. It stores comments on an ordinary zwiki page. The idea here is that any zwiki page can function as a chat room by viewing it in chat mode. In this mode the page auto-refreshes and only the most recent comments are shown. View the page normally to see the complete chat log. It ain't no IRC, but come on over and check it out. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-dev]SmartSections 0.1.0 released
Hi Stephan, thanks for this. Sounds pretty useful. IMPORTANT: SmartSections requires OrderedFolder! and CoreSessionTracking.. and Formulator.. and SmartWizard.. (or not?) It seems to be happy with dependencies now but when I create a Smart Section in the ZMI I get Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: getParentNode Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_addSmartSection) File /usr/local/Zope-2.3.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: manage_addSmartSection) File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/SmartSection.py, line 17, in manage_addSmartSection File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/General.py, line 9, in findFormContainer File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/General.py, line 9, in findFormContainer (Object: Traversable) File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/General.py, line 9, in findFormContainer (Object: Traversable) File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/General.py, line 9, in findFormContainer (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File /home/bb/Products/SmartSections/General.py, line 8, in findFormContainer AttributeError: (see above) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: making zwikiwebs.zexp import unnecessary
Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the CMFWiki product does this... it's fairly simple code that I think could be lifted directly from the product. I think CMFWiki comes with the CVS checkout of the CMF now... Thanks Chris, I will look. I posted a tentative plan on http://zwiki.org/ToDo also. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Thanks for a most illuminating thread. Slight clarification to a comment of yours Shane - Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GPL code together. ZWiki is just in a strange position because the GPL is not actually in effect. I'm not sure I'd use those words - the license is certainly fully in effect, I'd say, if not exactly enforced by a battalion of lawyers. One of the consequences being that someone re-distributing zope zwiki together, under their default licenses, is technically in violation right now, I think we are all agreeing. I'm not aware of anyone doing this right now, though there was a zwiki package for Debian GNU/linux at one point. Would Debian be in violation shipping both zope zwiki packages on a cd ? If they thought so, sooner or later one or the other would get dropped from the distribution. Unfortunate and detrimental to both zwiki and zope. In principle this would apply to all linux distributions. Does this serve as an example of a problem with the current situation for DC management ? Another would be the fact that DC's own options are limited if it (DC) ever had the desire to distribute or sell something leveraging zwiki. Sure, it could convince me that LGPL makes better sense, or offer me a large sum of money to draw up a special alternate license (hey, on the double :-). But this would have to be repeated with each developer where the situation arose. Probably better to update the ZPL to solve this problem in one sweep, ensure that zope is participating fully within the preeminent sphere of software creativity, and earn a whole bunch of new support from the world developer community. And python did it. And there's no downside to making yourself GPL-compatible that I can think of. Explain why it's important to you and why you can't get by on the current situation. You can send them directly or I can forward emails to the management. Thanks Shane, please forward. DC management, please consider yourself lobbied - I'd like to encourage you to review the situation and consider making some adjustments to zope's license, or join our discussion here. Best regards -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the consequences being that someone re-distributing zope zwiki together, under their default licenses, is technically in violation right now, I think we are all agreeing. Technically yes, although I like to think that the product developers implicitly grant redistribution permission by attempting to apply the GPL. I'm not sure that would be a valid assumption. Speaking for myself, it wasn't my particular intention to unconditionally grant that permission given the licenses as they stand. I mean, I didn't intend that zwiki's GPL be some kind of watered-down GPL. :) I think you're right. The reaction to the Python license becoming GPL compatible wasn't as enthusiastic as I expected, though. Well, I'm guessing there was a shout of joy around the world - it made my day. I think many of us then said well thank god for some sanity and got on with the productive work that needed doing. Unfortunately the positive reactions are less apparent than the kind we have when disaster is looming. Cheers -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-dev]ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'm guessing there was a shout of joy around the world - it made my day. I think many of us then said well thank god for some sanity PS, and in case that wasn't clear - I want to say a BIG THANK YOU to all who put so much hard work into solving the Python licensing problems. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-dev]ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Now you're talking. Seconded. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:43:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Richard Stallman snip If the latter, then in general, you can't take someone's GPL-covered code and combine it with Zope, because the Zope license is GPL-incompatible. If someone wrote a GPL-covered program specifically for Zope, you are pretty safe taking that as implicit permission to combine it with Zope. But it would be better for them to give explicit permission. Now here, I have to assume RMS is using combine above to mean combine and redistribute. I hope I'm right ? If combine included install zwiki on your zope installation and use it then everything I know is wrong.. I did intend for that to be fairly danger-free. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: apology
Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not sure what you want to express with your statement. that I now see we were in agreement. Sorry for the confusion. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] making zwikiwebs.zexp import unnecessary
I think I read someone had integrated the sample zwiki web(s) into the python product, removing the need for the import which causes great confusion. If you know anything about this, please get in touch. Thanks -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Steve Drees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here comes the liscence wars again. Nope. Please don't drag down a constructive thread. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl not problem centered enough
Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WikiForNow project. As soon as i'm clear form a current project i *may* be able to concentrate on at least formulating a reasonable quick-and-dirty way to do notifications, and getting it done for the Hey Ken - since you used the magic words quick-and-dirty - search for PageSubscribers at http://zwiki.org/zwikidir/ZWikiPage.py . I'm using it now in a client project. Comments (not edits) are cc'd to email addresses listed on the page. I'm not sure it would handle large lists of zope.org subscribers (but I'd like to find out). I'm very interested in closing the loop, so you can reply to these and have your mail appended to the page. And in fact I'm about to do some work on this so if you or anyone else gets into it, let's share notes. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues
Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license dicussion takes place elsewhere as all of you surely know. License wars tend to come up at various places but are usually not competent discussions. With respect - loose talk of license wars should be avoided. What you say is true but not relevant to this thread. These issues are not basic, and they matter most to zope developers. I think this is a very good place for those who are interested to have a discussion about them. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] apology
reviewing the thread just now, I couldn't figure out how Jan-Oliver first participated and then argued against it. Now I think he was responding to Steve Drees and not saying what I thought he said. Sorry Jan! :) so-far-so-good-ly'rs, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] and thanks
dtml-tree made me look good today :). Thanks DC! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] command-line zope.org product upload ?
If you have a recipe or script or ideas for this, I'd appreciate it. I have a non-functional makefile recipe that currently looks like this - echo id=$(PRODUCT)-$(VERSION).tgz\nfile=`cat releases/$(PRODUCT)-$(VERSION).tgz | \ python -c import sys,urllib; print urllib.quote_plus(sys.stdin.read())` \ | TERM=vt100 lynx -post_data -auth=$(USERZOPEORG):$(PASSZOPEORG) -term=vt100 \ -dump http://zope.org/Members/simon/ZWiki/manage_addProduct/ZopeSite/Release_factory/Release_add \ .log (Oh please! shoot me now! :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: command-line zope.org product upload ?
Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool. And maybe some apt-get functionality? Like 'zope-apt-get dist-upgrade'? :-) Yeah, hang on - uh, Jerome ? Hey, uh, me and the folks on the list think there's this one little extra that would make zshell perfect.. :) Meanwhile, if I could just figure out how to POST multi-field form data I'd make some progress.. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] curl comes through (Re: command-line zope.org product upload ?)
Now I can do something like make zdoreleaseall creating ZWiki-0.9.3.tgz release on zope.org uploading ZWiki-0.9.3.tgz configuring ZWiki-0.9.3.tgz properties submitting ZWiki-0.9.3.tgz to the catalog creating ZWiki-0.9.3-released news item on zope.org configuring ZWiki-0.9.3-released properties submitting ZWiki-0.9.3-released to the catalog Here are the makefile recipes with the magic curl incantations. A zope.org entry in ~/.netrc is assumed. PRODUCT=ZWiki VERSION=0.9.3 STATUS=Development TITLE= PLATFORM=All PRODUCTURL=http://zope.org/Members/simon/ZWiki FILE=$(PRODUCT)-$(VERSION).tgz zdoreleaseall: zdorelease zdorelease-catalog zdoannounce zdoannounce-catalog zdorelease: zdorelease-create zdorelease-upload zdorelease-configure zdorelease-create: @echo creating $(FILE) release on zope.org @curl -s -n -Fid=$(FILE) -Ftitle='' -Ffile=@releases/$(FILE) $(PRODUCTURL)/manage_addProduct/ZopeSite/Release_factory/Release_add -o /dev/null zdorelease-upload: @echo uploading $(FILE) @curl -n -Ffile=@releases/$(FILE);type=application/x-tgz $(PRODUCTURL)/$(FILE)/editFile -o /dev/null zdorelease-configure: @echo configuring $(FILE) properties @curl -s -n -Ftitle=$(TITLE) -Fversion=$(VERSION) -Fstatus=$(STATUS) -Fplatform=$(PLATFORM) $(PRODUCTURL)/$(FILE)/editItem -o /dev/null zdorelease-catalog: @echo submitting $(FILE) to the catalog @curl -s -n -Fsubmit= Request Entry $(PRODUCTURL)/$(FILE)/manageCatalog -o /dev/null NEWSITEM=$(PRODUCT)-$(VERSION)-released NEWSTEXT=`echo /^\w.*$(VERSION)/;/^\w/-1p |ed -s Changelog` zdoannounce: zdoannounce-create zdoannounce-configure zdoannounce-create: @echo creating $(NEWSITEM) news item on zope.org @curl -s -n -Fid=$(NEWSITEM) -Ftitle= -Ftext= -Fsubmit= Add $(PRODUCTURL)/manage_addProduct/ZopeSite/fNewsItem/addNewsItem -o /dev/null zdoannounce-configure: @echo configuring $(NEWSITEM) properties @echo /^\w.*$(VERSION)/;/^\w/-1p |ed -s Changelog | curl -s -n -F'text=-' -Ftitle=$(PRODUCT) $(VERSION) released -FNewsItem_topics=Announcement -Fformat=Structured Text $(PRODUCTURL)/$(NEWSITEM)/editItem -o /dev/null zdoannounce-catalog: @echo submitting $(NEWSITEM) to the catalog @curl -s -n $(PRODUCTURL)/$(NEWSITEM)/manageCatalog -o /dev/null ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] better history diff output ?
Hi all, I want to highlight a wiki page's last changes, so I have a need for a better display of diffs between two revisions. Can you recommend any good free diff code out there with nice html output ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] decapitate() still needed ?
from http://zwiki.org/FrontPage: simon - why is the antidecaptiation kludge there? tav - it was a temporary way around an undocumented feature of DTML Documents, namely if your document's text begins with one or more lines that look like a http: header, they get moved into the actual http headers. Naturally it has led to complications. aha! deltab: the undocumented feature seems rather unnecessary - DTML Documents can set their header fields through the RESPONSE object. db - I would dearly love for it to vanish. No time to raise the issue on zope-dev or tracker right now though --SM Well, I guess that's not true. Raising it here. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zunit 0.2 comments
Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To get it working in my zope account at Codeit, I moved Hiper from Shared/ to Products/ and changed the import statements. Why? Zope or the codeit setup didn't seem to see things in INSTANCE_HOME/Shared and I don't have access to SOFTWARE_HOME/Shared. Each line is the Id of an ExternalTestCase object. You can use RestrictedTraversal, as in MyFolder/tests/MyTestCase. Ok - only after importing ZUnit-samples.zexp could I get a clue about how to make this work. I suppose I could have tried that sooner. What's the reason for this new level of indirection, the ExternalTestCase object ? And do you think this name is appropriate ? (I am confused about tests vs test cases vs test suites) Also, any ideas about the following which I get when running either my own tests or the samples: Traceback (innermost last): File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/TestRunner.py, line 83, in running test.run(tm) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/ExternalTestCase.py, line 83, in run self._testInstance().run(tr) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/unittest.py, line 239, in run return self(result) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/unittest.py, line 245, in __call__ test(result) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/unittest.py, line 141, in __call__ result.startTest(self) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/ExternalTestCase.py, line 44, in startTest context = self.monitor.startTestWithContext(test) File /home/simon/Products/ZUnit/TestMonitor.py, line 93, in startTestWithContext return self.testReport.newContext(test.id()) AttributeError: id Best regards, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zunit 0.2 comments
Hi Lalo,
thanks for your work on ZUnit. I have just been playing with 0.2.
To get it working in my zope account at Codeit, I moved Hiper from
Shared/ to Products/ and changed the import statements.
I also needed to make some changes of this kind:
#manage_RunTestsForm = Globals.HTMLFile('Products/ZUnit/dtml/TestRunner/RunTests')
manage_RunTestsForm = Globals.HTMLFile('dtml/TestRunner/RunTests',globals())
I'm having trouble figuring out the syntax of the test_ids
property. Can you help ?
best regards,
-Simon
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Re: [Zope-dev] pydoc for Zope - another great documentation finding tool
Great, Dieter! If anyone can post a link to some example output, please do. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it needs an image content-type ? Sorry, just my flaky link. For shame, to think such a thing. My two cents on the screenshot: - looks like good progress! - the top bar as shown definitely doesn't make best use of my precious screen space, should become a user option - for what it's worth I too spend most of my time in manage_main to avoid frames confusion - agree with Andy's point about many shades of blue - I think the black might grow on me - stating-the-obvious: a centralized stylesheet and more user preferences for all management pages would be good -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] FYI: calling doctest from ZUnit
I added some ZUnit tests which invoke Tim Peters' doctest testing framework in the zope environment. More at http://zwiki.org/DocTest regards, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] (was Flat Database/ZPatterns api, performance ?)
Itamar Shtull-Trauring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Michael wrote:
Flat Database (was ListMate) is just what I need to whip up an
interface for non-technical administrators - thanks. So I migrated two
data tables ("workshops" "registrations") from gadfly to flatdb
instances using the CSV import feature, and the admin interface is
working fine.
I wrote flat database because I wanted some features ListMate didn't have
and didn't want ZClasses. I basically copied the structure from ListMate,
so it's probably not the best design possible for ZPatterns. So (1) may not
be possible with the current code.
Itamar, thanks for your suggestions on this. I never got it working.
Frustrated by a period of intense Zope Developer Pain I fell back
on.. you've guessed it.. my favorite hammer.
For this application I found that a zwiki page containing a CSV table
makes a micro-db that's relatively easy to administer work with (and
it's almost editable with MS Excel). I made a support method for doing
queries: http://zwiki.org/QueryCsv
Question for the list: is this nuts ? I somehow doubt it would pass
the ACID test, but zope's transactions help and at least for this app
(small data, low load, mostly appending) it seems to have worked well.
-Simon
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Re: [Zope-dev] Significance of the ZODB split?
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am, in particular, barely not lazy enough to check stuff into branches, much less whole other repositories. ;) Nicely put. Posted on zwiki.org so I can use it later. :) -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zwiki ZUnit support added
This is great, Lalo! Thanks. I checked in ZUnit support to ZWiki-cvs, and the first couple of unit tests. Suddenly, I feel all Extreme! FWIW, here's how I run the tests. I made a TestRunner called ZWikiTests, pointing to "Products.ZWiki.TestSuite". I have these rules in a makefile: unit-test test: @wget -nv 'http://username:password@localhost:port/ZWikiTests/manage_startTests' -O TESTOUTPUT @cat TESTOUTPUT refresh: @wget --spider -nv 'http://username:password@localhost:port/Control_Panel/Products/ZWiki/manage_refresh?performRefresh=1quickRefresh=1' After making some changes to the product files, I make refresh test 200 OK 14:03:17 URL:http://username:password@localhost:port/ZWikiTests/manage_startTests [34] - "TESTOUTPUT" [1] . . . Time: 1.329s OK (3 tests) This rocks. In fact, as I ran the above it caught a typo in ZWiki/Tests.py which otherwise you all would have had to deal with. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if someone wants to distribute something which includes zope and one or more GPL products. I mean, eg, you want to distribute your end-user package Easy Portal Creator 2000, based on zope/ptk/squishdot/zwiki. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
Juan, thanks for shining some light towards this murky area. Maybe ZWiki and other zope products need to be LGPL or dual-licensed, maybe the zope license can use some refinement. I for one won't know without seeing some enlightened discussion of the issue. This stuff is unsexy but important. Best regards, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: question re problem adding zwiki webs
Re this error when adding a zwiki web: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: H?v`H?v$y_?-006412673360557 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="wiki_type" basic Tony McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a Mac actually. IE 5.0. I've just asked a colleague to try creating a ZWikiWeb on his PC and it's worked fine! I do have other problems with IE 5.0 in that it has a limit on the number of things I can 'copy' and 'paste' - in general I don't bother doing it and export and reimport folders etc. I'd really like to know why it's behaving like that, I do have a *lot* of cookies in my IE and have also heard that the sequence in which HTTP headers are sent to IE can be an issue to (sigh) Thanks, that helps a lot! To narrow it down, if not to solve it :( It does appear that the problem is not with zwiki, but that HTTP form data headers are being sent in some unusual format and confusing zope. I wonder if you experience mac-IE-specific problems with other zope forms or forms in general. I suppose it could be related to your cut/paste problems. I'm cc'ing the list, perhaps someone knows more. Cheers, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] another debugging howto, and a question
Here are some draft howto-like things some might find helpful (improvements welcome) : http://zwiki.org/ZopeDebuggingRoadmap http://zwiki.org/HowToDebugZopeInEmacs and a burning question: how can I invoke zserver such that I will get the interactive debug prompt ? I'd like to have my breakpoints trigger when I access the server in the normal way with a web browser, poke around, let it run on and do it again. I was able to do this in the past and it's useful. Many thanks! -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zwiki 0.7.0 bugfix
this should resolve a problem with the recent release. From http://zwiki.org/FrontPageNews: "The original (pre-0.7.0) problem was this: in dtml modes, initial lines containing : followed by a blank line were not rendered (because they were considered to be http headers). The symptoms of my interim fix in 0.7.0 are this: ^M's appear at the beginning of pages and blank lines sometimes get eaten. I think I have a suitably ugly workaround now. It's running here and available in http://zwiki.org/zwikidir/releases/ZWiki-0.7.1rc3.tgz, please try it out." ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZWiki 0.7.0 release candidate (was Re: Cruft on dev.zope.org)
He 8-) ... sounds like a good time to mention the below (and Ken, your new feature priorities look very close to mine): I have uploaded a release candidate: http://zwiki.org/zwikidir/releases/ZWiki-0.7.0.tgz . Please hammer on it if you can - tomorrow is an auspicious date for release! ZWiki 0.7.0 2000-10-31 "Halloween!" * cookie-based user options, including edit form size, timezone, bookmarks and wikiwikiweb-style username (help from Phil Armstrong) * ZWiki is now zope 2.2-compatible (Garth Kidd) and -requiring, and benefits from the 2.2 security model. Executable dtml pages now run with those permissions that are common to both the page-viewing user and the wiki web's owner. Set the folder's owner to limit the permissions of executable pages. * incorporated updated Chris Withers' product for creating wiki webs * added streamlined "hierarchal2" wiki style other layout tweaks * wikiwikiweb-style late page creation * added simple javascript-disabling code * made paths work with virtual hosting again (Evan Simpson) * fixed unreliable ! line protection in structuredtext modes * fixed unreliable remote wiki links in classicwiki mode * more permissive remote wiki link regexps (Geoff Gardiner) * "with this" dtml kludge no longer needed * added built-in defaults for all dtml methods * simpler, more consistent urls api * code refactoring/cleanups, other misc. bugfixes It's dark.. and the witching hour is near. Don't be afraid.. :) -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Flat Database/ZPatterns api, performance ?
Flat Database (was ListMate) is just what I need to whip up an
interface for non-technical administrators - thanks. So I migrated two
data tables ("workshops" "registrations") from gadfly to flatdb
instances using the CSV import feature, and the admin interface is
working fine.
I'm having a hard time, though, figuring out how to access the data
programmatically. I scavenged the docs (zpatterns wiki very helpful,
as far as it went; not much available for flatdb), searched the lists
(nothing) and grovelled around in the code. I'd appreciate any
comments or advice on the following.
1. how can I look up a row in the table by column value, other than
searching the whole table: ?
dtml-in "workshops.entryValues()"
dtml-if "getProperty('col_workshopid') == workshop"
dtml-var "getProperty('col_description')"
/dtml-if
/dtml-in
2. how can I add an entry to a table ? I tried this:
dtml-let entry="registrations.manage_addEntry()"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_workshopid','string','TEST')"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_firstname','string','TEST')"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_lastname','string','TEST')"
...
/dtml-let
and it seems to create a number of spurious rows with only the first
field set. This didn't work either:
dtml-call "registrations.manage_addEntry().manage_changeProperties(
col_workshopid='TEST', col_firstname='TEST', col_lastname='TEST', ... )"
3. displaying table contents seems quite slow. On this P100 with 48Mb
ram doing nothing but zope, no load and generally snappy, generating
the 50-row, 20-column registrations table listing takes 15
seconds. Any ideas about where this comes from ?
4. this is my first encounter with the mighty zpatterns. I wonder how
one might add a thing (data plugin ?) so that FlatDb could read the
data out of zgadfly or something faster, instead of migrating it as I
did ?
Many thanks!
-Simon
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Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'
"Rik Hoekstra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think everyone agees about that, but at least some of the participants in this discussion also agree that most of the existing discussion tools for any mode of discussion are frustrating and insufficient at times. Moreover, apparently not everyone favours the same mode of discussion and this alone would be more than enough justification for a product that would cater different modes of discussion _at_the_same_time_. Hear hear! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)
I like where you're going with this Martijn. Spurred on by your concrete examples, how about this: every wiki page has an email address and functions as a "mailing list". Eg: I could subscribe or send edits to ZWikiWeb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] StructuredTextWiki:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (defaults to the front page) A zwikiweb could be seen as a hierarchy of very lightweight mail lists. When I subscribe to a page(list), I would also receive edits(mail) to its child pages(lists) by default. Implementation: a sufficiently smart mail server, or (better?) build on the "mail into zope" project for an all-zope solution. Eg: I might install and configure the "ZWikiMail" product, and suddenly my existing wikis are mail-enabled.. Comments ? -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder what Simon Michael is up to nowdays? I have been visiting family.. I'll be back in the US next week. Great thread here. I also feel this pain, grovelling around between wiki, mailing list, newsgroup, message board, etc. I wonder if we should expose all messages, edits and annotations in some RSS/RDF-like format, for easier syncing/monitoring/indexing of the different forums and to faciliate alternate UIs. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
