I will add my 2 cents worth here too. I agree with Jeff.
As a previous post noted a big cause of this problem was Apple. They forced
change on us, and on 4D. I was involved in an industry where each month brought
new requirements that were forced upon us by various governments that we had to
I think 32-bit applications will live on a lot longer than 2 years on Windows.
I haven't read anything that even hints that Microsoft is thinking about ending
32-bit application support. Heck, they still support 16-bit apps on 32-bit
Windows.
I would expect 32-bit versions of Windows
On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Don Lapin wrote:
> Please let us know what you find out, Tim. From here it's looking like there
> was never any intention of creating anything but a fig leaf.
Hi Don,
I definitely will. I’m sure the end result of 4D Write Pro will be a big
improvement over the
Especially with 4D supporting the Blink engine on both platforms. I haven't yet
tried doing any web integrations with a version of 4D that uses Blink, but I'm
really hopeful that it makes things a lot smoother.
--
Jeffrey Kain
jeffrey.k...@gmail.com
On Feb 2, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Benedict, Tom
: Benedict, Tom
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 7:57 AM
To: 4D_Tech@lists.4D.com
Subject: Re: "Goodbye 4D Write" email
There are plenty of Javascript text editor libraries available.
This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
proprietary information, and may be
There are plenty of Javascript text editor libraries available.
This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity
to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended
recipient or his or
On the other hand, the majority who don't need to integrate word processing are
probably thinking "why the heck are they spending so much time and resources
trying to reinvent word processing when they could be working on "?
I can see both points of view, but for 4D Write I do think 4D has
Please let us know what you find out, Tim. From here it's looking like there
was never any intention of creating anything but a fig leaf.
Thanks,
Don
>The big question now is, what is still on that list of things the 4D
>Write Plugin can do that 4D Write Pro still cannot do? If there is a
We’ve been using 4D Write quite extensively for years. We have over 200 user
licences on two big databases. We mostly use it now to generate html emails.
We haven’t undertaken the move to downgrade to the “pro” version, which we are
not looking forward to at all.
4D has been gutting
On Feb 1, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Chip Scheide wrote:
> In principle, it should be possible to create a text editor in 4D
> itself.
>
> I believe that the 4D design interface is built in/with 4D. If this is
> true, you should be able to build a tailorable text editor inside 4D.
> The Method editor
In principle, it should be possible to create a text editor in 4D
itself.
I believe that the 4D design interface is built in/with 4D. If this is
true, you should be able to build a tailorable text editor inside 4D.
The Method editor while not perfect, is a usable text editor.
IF that is true
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> Come on you plugin developers, give us a real Word processing Plugin and
> there will be a market for it.
> Sadly this kind of development is out of my league, or i’d do it.
>
>
>
>
Definitely, do
Omnis is still around and very alive.
Alan Chan
4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes:
>How many of you
>used to work using Foxbase, dBase, Omnis, to name a few. Just be greatful
>that the company has been able to keep up with the times and is still a
>viable product.
The more things change the more they stay the same. 4D like any company
makes decision on how to spend money. There are probably not enough users
of 4D write to warrant the cost associated with porting to 64 bit. While
this hurts at one of my customers, think of it this way. How many of you
used
I have been using 4D Write Pro for quite some time now as an editor for E-Mails.
Porting the functionality I had before using 4d Write (mostly dynamic access to
data) was quite simple.
Nevertheless, there is quite a lot missing for it to replace 4D Write for those
who need a „real“ text editor.
If 4D Write Pro doesn’t, and won’t, have all the features of 4D Write then 4D
should give it a different name instead of pretending that it’s a replacement.
I’ve been totally baffled by this seemingly endless piecemeal rollout of a
“pro” product. I remember getting an email a couple years ago
> Le 1 févr. 2018 à 02:28, Don Lapin via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a écrit
> :
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> You did not answer the question regarding whether 4D will continue to work
> with 4D Write (the regular version, not the Pro). That's my primary concern
> at the moment.
Hi Don,
I heard
the Write Pro product suffers from such a paucity of usefulness, I am
hoping that they will at least allow plain 4D Write to run as a 32-bit plug in.
Under present circumstances a "Goodbye 4D Write" email today seemed a bit
off-key.
Thanks for responding,
Don
>Hi Don,
>
>I
Don Lapin:
> You did not answer the question regarding whether 4D will continue to work
> with 4D Write (the regular version, not the Pro). That's my primary concern
> at the moment.
From my understanding the "old" 4D Write will continue working in 32Bit
versions of 4D. There will be no 64Bit
Hi Don,
I agree with you that 4D Write PRO can't replace today 4D Write.
But, forget trying that 4D mantain 4D Write. Because MacOs High Sierra
is the last Mac Os working compatible 32 bits. So, all applications must
be 64 bits, in the future.
4D Write PRO borned 64 bits for that reason.
We
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>On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Don Lapin via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.
>4d.com> wrote:
>
>Did anyone else get this "Goodbye 4D Write" email today?
>
>I was told by my rep that
ether.
my very best
-Brian
On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Don Lapin via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com<mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote:
Did anyone else get this "Goodbye 4D Write" email today?
I was told by my rep that 4D Write would continue to work with future versi
Did anyone else get this "Goodbye 4D Write" email today?
I was told by my rep that 4D Write would continue to work with future versions
of the program. I have over 200 customers on a 4D Write-based application.
Thousands of lines of code that procedurally assemble long OSHA, Canadia
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