> "Phil" == Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Phil> More's the point, how could I have discovered the existence
Phil> of col for myself?
I would have guessed "man -k backspace" might do it for you, but it
doesn't on my LINUX system. "man -k filter" does come up with both
col
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1/ Ignore comments except pseudo comments
> 2/ Combine lines
> 3/ Parse the resulting logical line
> 4/ Parse pseudo comments
I think the easiest solution would be to allow pseudo
comments _only_ on a line by themselves.
Then we could use the followi
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:34:30 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Martin Tarenskeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Despite the computer age and all those wonderfull abc tools, I still use a
> lot of old-fashioned music paper. Today I used abcm2ps to make printable
> empty music paper. With %%scale I can even make b
The latest changes to the standard
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
to reflect the discussion of today:
2.1. Remarks
A '%' symbol will cause the remainder of any input line
to be ignored. It can be used to add remarks to the end
of an ABC line.
Alternatively, you can use the syn
Issue up to discussion.
What should be the meaning of the following fragment:
P:A
[V:V1] C G C
[V:V2] E B E
P:B
[V:V1] A E A
[V:V2] C G C
Or differently put:
How, according to you, should P: and V: interact?
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:45:21 +0100
> From: Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Some of the abc2ps %% commands don't properly fall under the
> > "formatting" classification.
[snip]
> > But most of abc2ps's %% commands are for control of formatting.
>
> Yes. But mostly, at least, displa
Thank you for the tip.
I changed it as you suggested.
Irwin
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> Found it. I would suggest to slightly change the section about the
> defaults for each clef, to improve readability and avoid confusion. I
> would change the following html code
>
> Defaults
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
> $ apropos backspace
> Nothing found
>
> There probably is a keyword that will get it, but I couldn't find one.
$ apropos filter
which does the same thing as:
$ man -k filter
But the best solution is to go to:
http://www.rocketaware.com/search.htm
It has
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> [K:bass middle=D] will achieve exactly what you want.
>
You mean [K:bass middle=d] ?
D, is 2 octaves below d, which is what abcm2ps does and what I need.
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:18:22 +, Luis Pablo Gasparotto
> >Ok! But let me ask you something: When was this setted to 16? What was
> >the speed of the top machines then?
>
Speed is of very little importance to use abcm2ps. Even my old Atari
runs
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:32:03PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
> Richard Robinson wrote:
>
> >It runs into a much more general question, actually - if you re-order
> >tunes in an ABc file, how do you handle any interposed non-ABC text,
> >where should it go ? I don't think there's a clean answer to
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jeff Bigler wrote:
> > 2.2. Continuation of input lines If the last (non-space, non-remark)
> > character on a line is a backslash (\), the next line should be
> > appended to the current one, overwriting the backslash and any spaces
> > or remarks that follow it, to make one l
The Indiana University Library has a website with
online copies of a number of song cycles by the great
20th century composers, and even more... they have a
section with complete Opera scores, Orchestral and
Choral scores, Chamber music scores, Piano sheet music,
etc. etc...
http://www.dlib.indian
Huh! I'm running Mac OS X 10.2.4 on a newer iBook. I have the same version
of abcm2ps as Phil does, downloaded as a Mac binary from abcplus @
sourceforge, same as his was.
The tune converted to postscript no problems at all. No hanging. No
overflow problems. Here's the console report.
%
Launch Terminal (which is where abcm2ps "lives" unless you have some program
with a GUI that can export to it; BarFly is supposed to do this in a future
version). If you do a "which" command, you will find it in a fairly
standard place. (BTW, "%" is given here as a generic Unix prompt.)
% which
On 12 Aug 2003 at 21:03, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> Can anyone recommend some literature, or online documentation, about the
> Postscript language. A basic introduction or a complete syntax
> description, or something in between ?
In terms of a basic introduction, I have found "A First Guide to
This seems like a good place to house the new standard.
> http://abc.sourceforge.net/
> http://abc.sourceforge.net/standard/abc2-draft.html
However, whatever happened to Guido Gonzato's description of the current
standard. I thought it was quite good; better than text file Chris Walshaw
made. I
John Walsh wrote:
>>
>> I've been asked recently by several BarFly users to support %%newpage
>> (or something similar) to force a page break when printing. Thinking
>> about this I find there's a problem with implementing it (and similar
>> directives which are placed between the tunes in a file)
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:53:59AM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
>
> The point is that the program treats tunes as individual entities, displaying
> an index of titles which can be sorted in various ways (alphabetically,
> numerically by ID or by position in file). When the user issues a print
> comm
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Christian Schnarrr wrote:
> I tried to use abc2ps with
> gchordfont Helvetica 20.0
> in my *.fmt file.
> But the chords are now touched by the line of
> [1 ... [2 ... :|
> Is there a possibilaty to move the line of the repeat a little bit higher?
Please download the lates
I need a little help.
I have just gone ahead and downloaded abcm2ps-2.11.3.pkg for
MacOSX from the sourceforge page, and after unstuffing it, I
launched the installer. It seemed to operate appropriately (I have
OS 10.2.6) but after it reports that the installation was
successful, I cannot find the
I am trying to get the music of Dock Boggs' Prodigal Son, either in abc,
midi, or even wave or mp3 format. I can't find it via Kazaaa, and while
Amazon has some Boggs sound samples in ReadAudio format, it doesn't
have that particular song.
--
Karl Dallas, HoustonMedia
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:29:19PM +, John Chambers wrote:
> Richard Robinson writes:
> |
> | X:1
> | T:What ?
> | K:C
> | aaa aaa|]
> | %%newpage
> |
> | and the parser stops on the blank line, the %%newpage is extracted as part
> | of the tune. I'm not sure this is desirable behaviour ?
>
>
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:04:10PM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote:
>
> I've spent all these years struggling to learn LaTeX, and I'm not
> going to learn abcm2ps %% directives to replace that with, but as
> someone who has had the flexibility of LaTeX for all these years, I
> assure you that one of the
Richard Robinson writes:
|
|
| I really _wish_ the layout/typesetting command could have been marked,
| with, eg "%%abc2ps newpage", in the same way as the original midi ones
| were. It might have at least made issues like this easier to think
| about.
|
There was the suggestion that all these s
I've been asked recently by several BarFly users to support %%newpage
(or something similar) to force a page break when printing. Thinking
about this I find there's a problem with implementing it (and similar
directives which are placed between the tunes in a file). BarFly can
print any selected
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:54:30AM -0400, Tom Keays wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Laura Conrad wrote:
> > Are you assuming that all tunes fit on one page? If not, it seems
> > like one very well might need %%newpage or some such within a tune.
Ah, yes. Good point
> What usually happens when tu
> > I tried to use abc2ps with
> > gchordfont Helvetica 20.0
> > in my *.fmt file.
> > But the chords are now touched by the line of
> > [1 ... [2 ... :|
> > Is there a possibilaty to move the line of the repeat a little bit
> > higher?
> Please download the latest version of abcm
Martin Tarenskeen writes:
| Despite the computer age and all those wonderfull abc tools, I still use a
| lot of old-fashioned music paper. Today I used abcm2ps to make printable
| empty music paper. With %%scale I can even make big size staves (for my
| very young piano pupils).
|
| X:1
| M:none
|
> > I found this in the abcm2ps doc (features.txt):
> > The repeat indication may be explicitly stopped with a ']'.
> I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
> notation, [...]
> but unfortunately, abcm2ps also puts in a thick barline after the ']'
> instead of just
>On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:37:21PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
>> I'm seeing some problems with the Mac version of abcm2ps (v3.6.2)
>> where it hangs up on certain tunes and has to be killed.
>
>Just as a data point, your example works fine for me, with 3.6.3 on
>Linux (and it doesn't report any ove
From: "Phil Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm seeing some problems with the Mac version of abcm2ps (v3.6.2)
> where it hangs up on certain tunes and has to be killed.
I've just tried you example using 2.11.3 (I think) on Windows and it works
fine.
I've mentioned this before but I did once have m
Eric,
I hope you don't mind me pestering you about this, but since you seem to know
something about it, you're the lucky one. ;-)
If you would, take a look at this:
http://users.starpower.net/paradiddle/rudimenter_img.htm
This is the ultimate goal of what I'm working on.
I'm trying to replicat
Despite the computer age and all those wonderfull abc tools, I still use a
lot of old-fashioned music paper. Today I used abcm2ps to make printable
empty music paper. With %%scale I can even make big size staves (for my
very young piano pupils).
X:1
M:none
K:C clef=none
x
x
x
x
% and so on. As muc
On 14 Aug 2003 at 20:58, Richard Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:53:13PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote:
> >
> > > I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
> > > notation, e.g.
> > >
> > > |: A A | B B | [1
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:53:13PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
> > notation, e.g.
> >
> > |: A A | B B | [1 c c] | [2 d d] | e e :|
> >
> > but unfortunately, abcm2ps also
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
> The 2 situations, tune and page, have to be kept separate somehow,
> it seems to me, they're on different levels.
Yes. A newpage directive is only useful for
applications that can deal with entire tunebooks, such
as abcm2ps and potentially lilypond.
Martin Tarenskeen writes:
|
| It seems that with a little knowledge of Postscript language some nice
| tricks can be done with a program like abcm2ps.
|
| Can anyone recommend some literature, or online documentation, about the
| Postscript language. A basic introduction or a complete syntax
| desc
> "I" == I Oppenheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I> Unless an application can handle a complete tunebook in
I> a well-defined way, you will never be sure how
I> individual tunes will be formatted on the page, and
I> consequently you won't know what the right position
I> wil
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Is the "[" repeat a bracketed construct ? - ie is the closing "]"
> necessary ?
Nope. abcm2ps introduced ] to indicate the end of a
repeat section. It is not necessary.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http:/
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:34:57 +0200 (CEST)
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To: Texmaillist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [TeX-music] Linux: noteedit-2.3.0: score layout
Version 2.3.0 of the cost free MusiXTeX exporting musical score editor NoteEdit is
On 14 Aug 2003 at 21:53, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
> > notation, e.g.
> >
> > |: A A | B B | [1 c c] | [2 d d] | e e :|
> >
> > but unfortunately, abcm2ps also puts in a thick
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:37:21PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
> I'm seeing some problems with the Mac version of abcm2ps (v3.6.2)
> where it hangs up on certain tunes and has to be killed.
Just as a data point, your example works fine for me, with 3.6.3 on
Linux (and it doesn't report any overfull
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The draft revision
> -> http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
> specifies %%pagebreak in 11. ABC Stylesheet specification
That were only some hypothetical examples. I will take
them out, since they are confusing.
> and %%newpage in 11.4
As one of the culprits who asked for this feature in BarFly, I can almost
say unequivocally that I withdraw my request. I completely see Phil's
problem. Phil wrote:
> I've been asked recently by several BarFly users to support %%newpage
> (or something similar) to force a page break when printi
> "Richard" == Richard Robinson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Richard> Basically, I think the original abc2mtex model was a good
Richard> and helpful way to look at it - go through the file
Richard> replacing each individual tune with something that a
Richard> typesetter ca
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:25:19AM -0400, Tom Keays wrote:
>
> The system Phil proposes below wouldn't work at all for me. That is to say,
> I know I wouldn't use it even if he went to the trouble to implement it.
>
> > I think, therefore, that I can only support them if they are placed
> > imme
Tom Keays wrote:
>Originally, my problem was more complicated (as I will explain). According
>the BarFly manual:
>
>Most of the problems you are likely to encounter concern the
>placing of page breaks. BarFly will always place page
>breaks between tunes, between staves in a tune or b
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote:
> I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
> notation, e.g.
>
> |: A A | B B | [1 c c] | [2 d d] | e e :|
>
> but unfortunately, abcm2ps also puts in a thick barline after the ']'
> instead of just closing the bracket.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> A similar question: are %%staves (abcm2ps) and %%score (ab2-draft)
> identical ?
They are definitely not identical; the staves directive
had some subtle problems, that made it necessary to
introduce a new directive, as has been discussed on
this lis
>
> I've been asked recently by several BarFly users to support %%newpage
> (or something similar) to force a page break when printing. Thinking
> about this I find there's a problem with implementing it (and similar
> directives which are placed between the tunes in a file). BarFly can
> print
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 04:05:59PM +0200, Henrik Norbeck wrote:
> 3.3.5. %%abc-include - Why use .abh as an extension? Why not
> .abch? Or are we still limited to 8+3 chars for file names?
There is at least one member of this mailing list - that's me - using abc
on a 8+3 filesystem once in a wh
On 14 Aug 2003 at 21:09, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> I found this in the abcm2ps doc (features.txt):
>
> The repeat indication may be explicitly stopped with a ']'.
I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
notation, e.g.
|: A A | B B | [1 c c] | [2 d d] | e e :|
but
Richard Robinson writes:
|
| Umm. Somebody's already mentioned the TuneFinder here, haven't they ?
| And it's a point - An app that picks selections of tunes out of an abc
| file would treat the 2 cases differently, no ?
|
| %%newpage
| X:1
| T:What ?
| K:C
| aaa aaa|]
|
| and the parser kicks in a
> "Irwin" == I Oppenheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Irwin> Application that operate on the level of individual
Irwin> tunes, can better ignore it.
Are you assuming that all tunes fit on one page? If not, it seems
like one very well might need %%newpage or some such within a tune.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> K:perc basel
> or something like that, and it will give me the staff I want.
abcm2ps already supports [K:perc middle=B] if I'm not
mistaken. So you would need to do is to extend it,
to support the following notation:
[K:perc middle=B stafflines=1]
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The current version of abcm2ps uses the %%newpage tag to force a page
> break but doesn't support (at least as of ver 3.6.2) the %%pagebreak.
>
> Does any program currently support the %%pagebreak? What is the
> difference between the two anyway?
A
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, John Chambers wrote:
> This would also go along with the abc2ps gimmick of
> reading global formatting info from a *.fmt file.
For this and other purposes, the *.abh include files
are proposed in the new standard.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazza
Richard Robinson wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:25:19AM -0400, Tom Keays wrote:
>>
>> The system Phil proposes below wouldn't work at all for me. That is to say,
>> I know I wouldn't use it even if he went to the trouble to implement it.
>>
>> > I think, therefore, that I can only support the
>> The 2 situations, tune and page, have to be kept separate somehow,
>> it seems to me, they're on different levels.
> Yes. A newpage directive is only useful for applications that can
> deal with entire tunebooks, such as abcm2ps and potentially lilypond.
And BarFly, though you probably wouldn't
Richard Robinson wrote, in response to a post of Barry Say:
>I particularly notice the comment in Irwin's abc-drafts, that Chris's
>original abc examples will need to be edited to conform to the standard.
>
>In fact, abc as it is currently being written is increasingly unlikely
>to go thrugh abc2m
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The problem with the pseudocomments as they stand is
> that they aren't namespaced. Without namespacing you
> run the risk of two applications using the same
> pseudocomment but implementing it in different ways.
As I announced on the list, the ABC 2.
>> Ok! But let me ask you something: When was this setted to 16?
>> What was the speed of the top machines then?
> The older abcm2ps I have, version 0.12.9, in date March 28, 1999,
> already had a max of 16 staves. The speed at this time was the same
> as now: I develop on a PC 486 DX 100 with 32 M
The Lilypond website has recently been totally
revamped. It now contains a very useful essay on common
"Music Engraving errors" and outlines some of the
complexities with which Music Engraving software has to
deal:
http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EM
With a little guidance from y'all and some poking around, I have managed to get
abcm2ps to generate the slashes on stems I was looking for to create drum notation.
I found, in the deco.abc file included in the abcm2ps package I have, a macro that Jef
calls "repst" - a "repeat sign in a stem" (w
Hi,
Let me introduce myself. I'm new to this mailinglist and relatively new to
the world of ABC music notation. After and during my classical piano study
at the conservatory in Arnhem, the Netherlands, I started giving piano
lessons to both children and adults.
My first computer was an Atari ST w
Hi!
I tried to use abc2ps with
gchordfont Helvetica 20.0
in my *.fmt file.
But the chords are now touched by the line of
[1 ... [2 ... :|
Is there a possibilaty to move the line of the repeat a little bit higher?
By
Christian Schnarr
Irwin Oppenheim wrote -
>Bryans alternative proposal didn't seem unreasonable,
>if he can clearly indicate how pseudo comments should
>be parsed.
I didn't get that till after my last posting. Have I answered the question? If not, I'm not sure that I see the problem.
Bryan Creer
Wil Macaulay wrote -
then you've got to figure out how to put the cursor in the right place after you've
done all this, if the user made a mistake
Yep. But that's your problem not the user's. If I can do it in Abacus (crosses fingers) then so can anyone.
Bryan Creer
Buddha Buck writes:
|
| How would you interpret:
|
| V:1 clef=bass middle=c
Go talk to some of the Early Music crowd. A few centuries
ago, it was common to draw the clef symbols at different
positions on the staff. I don't know if that particular
usage was ever common, but there's no ques
Henrik Norbeck wrote:
>I haven't been able to follow the discussion closely, since I'm away
>on vacation. Forgive me if I repeat things that have already been
>discussed, but here are a few important things I want to point out:
>
>3.1.13. H: - The multiline version should be deprecated, i.e. the
>
> > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:03:14 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: Martin Tarenskeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > It seems that with a little knowledge of Postscript language some nice
> > tricks can be done with a program like abcm2ps.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend some literature, or online documentation
Irwin -
>Wil (and others), would that be acceptable?
Fine by me.
Bryan Creer
Phil Taylor writes:
|
| More's the point, how could I have discovered the existence
| of col for myself? The biggest problem with getting things
| done in Unix seems to be that you keep hitting these barriers
| where you can't figure out the solution and you just have to
| go and ask someone who k
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Christian Schnarrr wrote:
> The lines of the alternate repeats are now (with
> 3.7.1-1) stopping at the next barline an don't reache
> the :|[2 and |]
I found this in the abcm2ps doc (features.txt):
The repeat indication may be explicitly stopped with a ']'.
Groeten,
Irw
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
> P:A
> [V:V1] C G C
> [V:V2] E B E
> P:B
> [V:V1] A E A
> [V:V2] C G C
So, would it be correct to state that P: resets the
music generator when encountered in the tune body, and
that the above example should thus be equivalent to the
following:
P:A
K:C
[V:
Irwin Oppenheim wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
>
>> P:A
>> [V:V1] C G C
>> [V:V2] E B E
>> P:B
>> [V:V1] A E A
>> [V:V2] C G C
>
>So, would it be correct to state that P: resets the
>music generator when encountered in the tune body, and
>that the above example should thus be equiv
No, because application A might handle %%MIDI and ignore %%pagesize
The way I planned to handle pseudocomments was to look for
particular strings like %%MIDI and ignore anything else that
starts with % - so I wouldn't even know it was a pseudocomment
unless it was a specific thing I parse.
> What should be the meaning of the following fragment:
> P:A
> [V:V1] C G C
> [V:V2] E B E
> P:B
> [V:V1] A E A
> [V:V2] C G C
> Or differently put:
> How, according to you, should P: and V: interact?
In itself that doesn't say enough as there is no header given.
If there a line in the header
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, John Chambers wrote:
> Martin Tarenskeen writes:
> | The standard says:
> | "middle= is an alternate way to define the line number of the clef.
> | The pitch indicates what note is displayed on the 3rd line of the staff."
> | The description should therefore be changed to some
The draft revision
-> http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
specifies %%pagebreak in 11. ABC Stylesheet specification
and %%newpage in 11.4.5. Text
The current version of abcm2ps uses the %%newpage tag to force a page
break but doesn't support (at least as of ver 3.6.2) the %%pagebrea
>When using clef=bass in a V: or K: field, and use abcm2ps for typesetting,
>notes are automatically transposed 2 octaves down. I think abc2ps also
>does this. This reduces the number of commas needed to notate low notes.
>That's nice but I don't read anything about this in the abc2-draft
>document
So the question seems to be---
When combining voices and part notation, should the
voices be contained in a part, in which case the
following notation is correct:
> >P:A
> >K:C
> >[V:A1] C G C
> >[V:A2] E B E
> >P:B
> >K:Am
> >[V:B1] A E A
> >[V:B2] C G C
Or should the parts be contained in a vo
Thanks to the good work of Bert Van Vreckem, the
central ABC Music project page is now completely
revamped:
http://abc.sourceforge.net/
>From now on, the ABC Music Standard can be found
on this page:
http://abc.sourceforge.net/standard/abc2-draft.html
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECT
It seems that with a little knowledge of Postscript language some nice
tricks can be done with a program like abcm2ps.
Can anyone recommend some literature, or online documentation, about the
Postscript language. A basic introduction or a complete syntax
description, or something in between ?
--
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:40:33PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
> Hmm, it couldn't be a problem of page size I suppose?
I'd *guess* that that's unlikely, since I use A4, which is narrower than
Letter, and hence more likely to provoke overfull line errors... but I
could be wrong.
Dave
To subscribe/u
I'm seeing some problems with the Mac version of abcm2ps (v3.6.2)
where it hangs up on certain tunes and has to be killed.
This is an example:
X:32
T:Wren's Nest, The
C:Frankie Gavin
R:jig
D:De Dannan: Anthem.
Z:id:hn-jig-32
M:6/8
K:Edor
GAB ded|cAA A2c|BGE EFG|AFD AFD|GAB ded|cAA A2c|BGE AFD|1 G
John Chambers wrote -
>Actually, that would be equivalent to
>
>%%MIDI no%%ba%%rlines
My idea was that, having read "%%MIDI no\", applications that handled pseudocomments would know to ignore leading "%%" until they got to a line that didn't end "\".
Bryan Creer
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:18:20 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
> From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2.2. Continuation of input lines If the last (non-space, non-remark)
> character on a line is a backslash (\), the next line should be
> appended to the current one, overwriting the backsl
then you've got to figure out how to put the cursor in the right place after
you've
done all this, if the user made a mistake
wil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It strikes me that there are three processes to carry out -
Remove comments
Combine lines
Parse abc notation
The problem is to
Wil Macauley wrote:
>
>then you've got to figure out how to put the cursor in the right place
>after you've
>done all this, if the user made a mistake
>
What I do in BarFly is to first record the text selection start and end
in two variables, then extract a copy of the tune to work on (which
itse
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, John Walsh wrote:
> So there are two examples of people who use abc2mtex for
> typesetting.
But why not use Lilypond, which can do anything that
abc2mtex could do and more?
> There is even a *possible* project to bring it at
> least partially up to date.
Why not spend
> "John" == John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> You can use middle=NOTE (or just m=NOTE) to say what abc note you
John> want to appear on the middle staff line.
If you're going to allow specification of non-five-line staffs, you
might want to say 'line or space'
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> Is there any concensus about what should be the notation standard for
> notes in the bass key? The abc2-draft doc only describes notation in the
> treble key.
Yes, and it all spelled out in section 6 (clefs) of the
standard. [K:bass middle=D] will ac
Yes I agree. My long winded explanation can be boiled down to Irwin's
succinct observation. I think Phil need not worry about implementing the
%%newpage in BarFly. Especially if he adds the print output features he
mentioned.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote:
> Yes. A newpage directive i
Consider the following:
X:1
T:test
M:2/4
L:1/8
K:CC-|:CD EF|GA Bc-|cB AG|[1 FE DC-:|[2 FE DC|]
Note the tie at the end of the first repeat, which is supposed to tie to the middle C
at the start of the piece. Perfectly legal, notation-wise, but abcm2ps doesn't like
it. If I make the first note
Hello all,
I thought there was a consensus that chords with different lengths, e g [aD2], should
be treated as having the length of the first note in the chord.
| Another historic moment! Phil and Bryan and I all agree on
| something! Put it in the standard, quick, before we lose it!
But the s
>
> > So there are two examples of people who use abc2mtex for
> > typesetting.
>
> But why not use Lilypond, which can do anything that
> abc2mtex could do and more?
>
Because I'm using abc2mtex and have no intention of changing. I
have a book in print which occasionally goes...but
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It strikes me that there are three processes to carry out -
>
> Remove comments
> Combine lines
> Parse abc notation
The order that the standard implicitly assumes, is:
1/ Combine lines
2/ Parse the resulting logical line
3/ Parse pseudo comments
4/
I. Oppenheim writes:
| These two concepts seem to be mutually exclusive,
| so I wonder which of these two concepts should be
| endorsed by the standard?
|
| BarFly seems to follow concept 2. Are there any
| ABC applications that follow concept 1?
Well, I recently typed up a transcription of the fo
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