Re: [AI] All details of General Elections in accessible formats

[Sanjay Prasad]

>
>
> Thanks.  This is good initiative taken by your organisation.   Instead of
> always demanding in accessible formats, we can and should convert
> inaccessible documents into accessible formats by availlable tools.
>


>
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Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Sanjay Prasad]

It is compulsory for ITR 3 and ITR 4 but not for salaried individuals.
If you are claiming any exemption under new regime, then it is better
to file 10IE.

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Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Sanjay Prasad]

By default it is new regime.  But while filing ITR, you can choose old regime.

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Re: [AI] Usage of NIC emails for communication by Central Government employees

[Sanjay Prasad]

Hi Prashant,
Is it part of Vyayam app which I am using in Android phone or
independent one.  If so, please send the playstore link.
thanks.

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[AI] Usage of NIC emails for communication by Central Government employees

[Sanjay Prasad]

As a Central Government employee, frequently, we have to use NIC id
for communications.  After entering password, we have to append a 6
digit code which is generated by Kavach App which I have installed in
my mobile.  This code changes every 30 seconds.  Some of the VI
persons may find it difficult to swipe for code, listen and enter the
same in computer.  This I can manage. But, I believe this duration
should be extended to 60 seconds.
Coming to my problem, I can send email to one person. But when I have
to send to multiple persons using cc and bcc, AFTER PRESSING SEND
BUTTON,   jaws and NVDA  DISPLAYS ERRORS.  I tried with different
options--separating by comas and semicolons with and without space but
could not succeed in sending mails to multiple IDs.
If anyone in this group is using NIC email services with Kavach,
please guide me.  Otherwise, we must take up this issue with them.
thanks.

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Re: [AI] Do we have a frame to handwrite things?

[Sanjay Prasad]

You can create one for yourself.  Choose any plastic sheet of your
choice.  knot small wires or threads horizentally at a convenient
distance.  those tied threads can serve as lines.  You can write
whatever you want between those lines.  This will keep your writing
straight.

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Re: [AI] 10(14)-II Income Tax Rule for exumption of Double TA is present?

[Sanjay Prasad]

In my case, This is every year story.  I ask them to deduct certain
amount but they always deduct more than what I ask them to do and I
get refund of that surplus amount  after filing ITR.

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Re: [AI] Looking for recommendation on Accessible business newspaper like Economic times, Mint

[Sanjay Prasad]

Hello,
Both economic times and times of India are accessible with talkback.
I am a subscriber of both these apps.  Their daily digital editions
are also accessible.

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Re: [AI] general ellections 2024 and accessibility!

[Sanjay Prasad]

As all numbers in EVM  machines are brailled, sometimes it is
difficult to know which number represents which party/independent
candidate.  This information should be made available easily.  Most of
the times our polling station do not have Braille copies.

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Re: [AI] Re: Invitation to Gmail Standard View Training Course for Screen Reader Users

[Sanjay Prasad]

On 1/5/24, Sanjay Prasad  wrote:
> Here are all the shortcut key combinations using standard view taken
> from www.gmail.com
>
> Keyboard shortcuts
> Open in a new window | Close
>
> Compose and Chat
> Shift + Esc :
> Focus main window
> Esc :
> Focus latest chat or compose
> Ctrl + . :
> Advance to next chat or compose
> Ctrl + , :
> Advance to previous chat or compose
>
> Ctrl + Enter :
> Send
>
> Ctrl + Shift + c :
> Add Cc recipients
> Ctrl + Shift + b :
> Add Bcc recipients
> Ctrl + Shift + f :
> Access custom from
> Ctrl + Shift + d :
> Discard draft
>
> Ctrl + k :
> Insert a link
>
> Ctrl + ; :
> Go to previous misspelled word
> Ctrl + ' :
> Go to next misspelled word
> Ctrl + m :
> Open spelling suggestions
>
> Google Workspace side panel
> Ctrl + Alt + . :
> Move focus among main window, side panel, and video call
> Ctrl + Alt + , :
> Reverse focus among main window, side panel, and video call
>
> Formatting
>
> Ctrl + z :
> Undo
> Ctrl + y :
> Redo
>
> Ctrl + Shift + 5 :
> Previous font
> Ctrl + Shift + 6 :
> Next font
>
> Ctrl + Shift + - :
> Decrease text size
> Ctrl + Shift + + :
> Increase text size
>
> Ctrl + b :
> Bold
> Ctrl + i :
> Italics
> Ctrl + u :
> Underline
>
> Ctrl + Shift + 7 :
> Numbered list
> Ctrl + Shift + 8 :
> Bulleted list
> Ctrl + Shift + 9 :
> Quote
>
> Ctrl + [ :
> Indent less
> Ctrl + ] :
> Indent more
>
> Ctrl + Shift + l :
> Align left
> Ctrl + Shift + e :
> Align center
> Ctrl + Shift + r :
> Align right
>
> Ctrl + Shift + , :
> Set right-to-left
> Ctrl + Shift + . :
> Set left-to-right
>
> Alt + Shift + 5 :
> Strikethrough
>
> Ctrl + \ :
> Remove formatting
> The following keyboard shortcuts are currently enabled. Disable
>
> Jumping
> g then i :
> Go to Inbox
> g then s :
> Go to Starred conversations
> g then b :
> Go to Snoozed conversations
> g then t :
> Go to Sent messages
> g then d :
> Go to Drafts
> g then a :
> Go to All mail
> g then c :
> Go to Contacts
> g then l :
> Go to Label
> g then k :
> Go to Tasks
> g then f :
> Go to search filters
>
> Threadlist selection
> * then a :
> Select all conversations
> * then n :
> Deselect all conversations
> * then r :
> Select read conversations
> * then u :
> Select unread conversations
> * then s :
> Select starred conversations
> * then t :
> Select unstarred conversations
>
> Navigation
> u :
> Back to threadlist
> k / j :
> Newer/older conversation
> o or Enter :
> Open conversation; collapse/expand conversation
> p / n :
> Read previous/next message
> g then n :
> Go to next page
> g then p :
> Go to previous page
> ` :
> Go to next inbox section
> ~ :
> Go to previous inbox section
> Ctrl + Alt + v :
> Reset sidebar sections to default height
>
> Application
> / :
> Search mail
> ? :
> Open keyboard shortcut help
> q :
> Search chat contacts
> c :
> Compose
> d :
> Compose in a tab
> . :
> Open "more actions" menu
> v :
> Open "move to" menu
> l :
> Open "label as" menu
>
> Actions
> , :
> Move focus to toolbar
> x :
> Select conversation
> s :
> Toggle star/Rotate among superstars
> y :
> Remove label
> e :
> Archive
> m :
> Mute conversation
> ! :
> Report as spam
> # :
> Delete
> r :
> Reply
> Shift + r :
> Reply in a new window
> a :
> Reply all
> Shift + a :
> Reply all in a new window
> f :
> Forward
> Shift + f :
> Forward in a new window
> Shift + n :
> Update conversation
> ] / [ :
> Remove conversation from current view and go newer/older
> } / { :
> Archive conversation and go newer/older
> z :
> Undo last action
> Shift + i :
> Mark as read
> Shift + u :
> Mark as unread
> _ :
> Mark unread from the selected message
> + or = :
> Mark as important
> - :
> Mark as not important
> ; :
> Expand entire conversation
> : :
> Collapse entire conversation
> b :
> Snooze
> Shift + t :
> Add conversation to Tasks
>

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Re: [AI] Re: Invitation to Gmail Standard View Training Course for Screen Reader Users

[Sanjay Prasad]

Here are all the shortcut key combinations using standard view taken
from www.gmail.com

Keyboard shortcuts
Open in a new window | Close

Compose and Chat
Shift + Esc :
Focus main window
Esc :
Focus latest chat or compose
Ctrl + . :
Advance to next chat or compose
Ctrl + , :
Advance to previous chat or compose

Ctrl + Enter :
Send

Ctrl + Shift + c :
Add Cc recipients
Ctrl + Shift + b :
Add Bcc recipients
Ctrl + Shift + f :
Access custom from
Ctrl + Shift + d :
Discard draft

Ctrl + k :
Insert a link

Ctrl + ; :
Go to previous misspelled word
Ctrl + ' :
Go to next misspelled word
Ctrl + m :
Open spelling suggestions

Google Workspace side panel
Ctrl + Alt + . :
Move focus among main window, side panel, and video call
Ctrl + Alt + , :
Reverse focus among main window, side panel, and video call

Formatting

Ctrl + z :
Undo
Ctrl + y :
Redo

Ctrl + Shift + 5 :
Previous font
Ctrl + Shift + 6 :
Next font

Ctrl + Shift + - :
Decrease text size
Ctrl + Shift + + :
Increase text size

Ctrl + b :
Bold
Ctrl + i :
Italics
Ctrl + u :
Underline

Ctrl + Shift + 7 :
Numbered list
Ctrl + Shift + 8 :
Bulleted list
Ctrl + Shift + 9 :
Quote

Ctrl + [ :
Indent less
Ctrl + ] :
Indent more

Ctrl + Shift + l :
Align left
Ctrl + Shift + e :
Align center
Ctrl + Shift + r :
Align right

Ctrl + Shift + , :
Set right-to-left
Ctrl + Shift + . :
Set left-to-right

Alt + Shift + 5 :
Strikethrough

Ctrl + \ :
Remove formatting
The following keyboard shortcuts are currently enabled. Disable

Jumping
g then i :
Go to Inbox
g then s :
Go to Starred conversations
g then b :
Go to Snoozed conversations
g then t :
Go to Sent messages
g then d :
Go to Drafts
g then a :
Go to All mail
g then c :
Go to Contacts
g then l :
Go to Label
g then k :
Go to Tasks
g then f :
Go to search filters

Threadlist selection
* then a :
Select all conversations
* then n :
Deselect all conversations
* then r :
Select read conversations
* then u :
Select unread conversations
* then s :
Select starred conversations
* then t :
Select unstarred conversations

Navigation
u :
Back to threadlist
k / j :
Newer/older conversation
o or Enter :
Open conversation; collapse/expand conversation
p / n :
Read previous/next message
g then n :
Go to next page
g then p :
Go to previous page
` :
Go to next inbox section
~ :
Go to previous inbox section
Ctrl + Alt + v :
Reset sidebar sections to default height

Application
/ :
Search mail
? :
Open keyboard shortcut help
q :
Search chat contacts
c :
Compose
d :
Compose in a tab
. :
Open "more actions" menu
v :
Open "move to" menu
l :
Open "label as" menu

Actions
, :
Move focus to toolbar
x :
Select conversation
s :
Toggle star/Rotate among superstars
y :
Remove label
e :
Archive
m :
Mute conversation
! :
Report as spam
# :
Delete
r :
Reply
Shift + r :
Reply in a new window
a :
Reply all
Shift + a :
Reply all in a new window
f :
Forward
Shift + f :
Forward in a new window
Shift + n :
Update conversation
] / [ :
Remove conversation from current view and go newer/older
} / { :
Archive conversation and go newer/older
z :
Undo last action
Shift + i :
Mark as read
Shift + u :
Mark as unread
_ :
Mark unread from the selected message
+ or = :
Mark as important
- :
Mark as not important
; :
Expand entire conversation
: :
Collapse entire conversation
b :
Snooze
Shift + t :
Add conversation to Tasks

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Re: [AI] Should I pay a delivery charge for the Indane Gas LPG

[Sanjay Prasad]

This is true in most of the cities and towns.   Book your cylinder
online.  They will not ask you to pay extra.  That is the only
solution.  This will also avoid unnecessary arguments with those
people.

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[AI] My moto g73 is responding to minors shakes and movements.

[Sanjay Prasad]

It seems my phone is extra sensitive to touch.  It starts playing last
played media  without tapping.   This happened several times when it
was locked and in my bag. it does so with both online and offline
media.  is there any setting to prevent this from happening? this
phone came with android 13 and all apps are up to date.

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Re: [AI] Join Saral Sanskrit Sambhashan: Free Online Sanskrit Learning Classes by Uttar Pradesh Government

[Sanjay Prasad]

I was learning Sanskrit from youtube.  But the problem I am facing is
I do not have anybody to speak in Sanskrit.  This discouraged me and I
 paused my learning process.  If your courses include compulsory
Sanskrit conversations,  then it would be very useful for all.  It is
difficult to master a language without speaking.
In fact, many are interested in Sanskrit but due to nonavailability of
speakers, we find it difficult to pursue this course seriously.

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Re: [AI] Complete list of Talkback braille keyboard commands for QWERTY keyboard

[Sanjay Prasad]

If I am not wrong, talkback uses UEBC  (Unified English Braille Code)
in its  Braille Keyboard.
List of all UEBC commands and their print equivalent letters  are
available online.
Just search for UEBC Braille code you will get it.
If you are using Orbit Reader, it is also available there.


On 10/19/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> I’m thinking about compiling a Complete list of Talkback braille keyboard
> commands for the QWERTY keyboard.
>
>
>
> There are many use cases for this. For example someone may want to include
> the ` character in a password, which is next to the number 1 key on the
> QWERTY keyboard, easy does it, but when using the Talkback braille keyboard
> on the phone, they will need to know how to duplicate that character for the
> password in braille.
>
> Since most blind people from birth use Grade 2 (contracted) braille, I’ll
> start with this first.
>
> If it’s already been done please let me know. Otherwise if you’re interested
> in collaborating with this effort please contact me. I’m still trying to
> find the braille commands for many of these for myself and can do with some
> help.
>
> For now I’m looking for the Slash and Backslash commands which I need to use
> most often, particularly for typing URLs in braille, or for representing
> Windows-based folder paths in braille, respectively.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Blind Graduates' Forum of India
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:11 PM
> To: accessindia 
> Subject: [AI] BGFI’s Session on Sound Heeling- Change in Time
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Greetings from Blind Graduates Forum of India, [BGFI]. BGFI brings to you
> yet another  enlightening in-person session in collaboration with
> Yashwantrao Chavan Center on Sound Healing on 29th October, 2023.  This
> session will train the participants to calm their mind and be able to better
> deal with the multiple challenges faced on a daily basis.
>
>
>
>
> Details of the session:
>
>
> Date:  Sunday, 29th October, 2023.
>
> Time:  4:00 PM to 6:00 PM.
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> Venue:  Yashwantrao Chavan Auditorium, Opp. Mantralaya, Near Sachivalaya
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>
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> About The Speaker
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> Upasana Makati is a multi-award-winning D advisor, author, and founder and
> publisher of White Print. She became the pioneer of braille journalism in
> the country when she launched White Print — India’s first English lifestyle
> magazine in Braille — in 2013.
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> Ever since, Upasana has continued to champion diversity & inclusion across
> myriad industries via consultancy, corporate training sessions, and
> educational talks. Her spiritual journey began when Usui Reiki came into her
> life, six years ago. She practices various healing techniques like Reiki,
> Magnified Healing, Emotional Freedom Technique, Sound Healing, Shamanic
> Smudging, and Quantum Field Ancestral Healing among others.
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> Benefits of the session
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> ●   You will feel relaxed and gain peace of mind through guided
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> ●   You will learn to use the power of sound to energize your body and
> soul.
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> Healing is a process by which we can get rid of our anxieties, rejuvenate
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Re: [AI] Biometrics attendance system accessibility for blind

[Sanjay Prasad]

In our Office, it is 100% inaccessible.  There is a touch Screen  and
a fingerprint recogniser.  One has to enter 8 digits of Aadhar number
and tap on ok button.  It  will display our photo and a message on
screen.   I always have to take someone's help to mark my attendance.
DOPT has issued a circular in June, 2023 wherein it has clearly stated
that biometric machines should be kept on PWD employees table.  This
is not followed in our Office.  I have requested several times for the
same. but, nothing has materialised.

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Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language

[Sanjay Prasad]

That is the job of translators.  Unless you are a translator, you are
not supposed to be assigned such tasks.
You can use google translator for this purpose.


On 8/30/23, Aravind R  wrote:
> google translate is helpful to translators to do instant translation
> from which, they can do editing and do changes. for typing, people can
> use hindi phonetic keyboard by adding language in windows/settings.
> various other keyboards are there and we can choose based on our
> convenience.
>
> On 30/08/2023, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an
>> english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This
>> document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the
>> help of jaws. However I am clueless how  could this task be
>> accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is
>> first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and
>> then get its print copy.
>> I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be
>> complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language,
>> rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly
>> advise me how to do this task.
>> I have the following tools:
>> Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts.
>> Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps
>> those can OCR hindi (but not translate)
>> I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop
>>
>> Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation
>> from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help
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Re: [AI] PayTM or Google Pay?

[Sanjay Prasad]

Hello,
Both paytm and google pay are accessible with talkback.  As I use both my
experience is GooglePay is more accessible and user-friendly than paytm.
You can access paytm from their official website:
www.paytm.com
I don't think there is any way to access googlePay from desktop site.


On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:50 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yogan Khandoo) <
ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody here used both PayTM and Google Pay?
> I’ve never used either of them and would like some comparison regarding
> which platform is:
> 1. Most accessible to Talkback or Jaws;
> 2. Used by most providers in India such as Government Electricity and gas
> supplier, phone companies Etc.
> Any thoughts will be welcome.
> Thanks.
> YJd
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Re: [AI] need accesssible demat / trading plotform

[Sanjay Prasad]

hello, 

 angel broking app is reasonably accessible. I frequently buy and  sell 
stocks from this app.   I do not have  idea about commodity market.  but I 
think this app provides the same interface for commodities as well.   you can 
try  even futures and options  as well. 

Sent from my iPhone using Braille screen input.

> On 06-Apr-2019, at 1:22 AM, Santosh Gandigude  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there any accessible app for multi commodity Exchange?
> 
> On Fri 5 Apr, 2019, 17:39 Sanchit Katiyar, 
> wrote:
> 
>> The web platform of Zerodha is quite accessible.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sanchit Katiyar
>> PhD research scholar (University of Delhi)
>> 
>> EMail: sanchitkatiya...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 1:45 PM Sasidhar Babu 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi  all
>>> hope you all are  doing well
>>> as subject line describes I'd like to open demat cum trading account.
>>> please  suggest  company / stock broker which providesbest  and
>>> accessible  demat cum trading apps and websites
>>> 
>>> and please  share  your trading experience in terms of accessibility.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> sasidhar
>>> help ever,   but hurt never!
>>> 
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Re: [AI] New and better version of itel phone?

[Sanjay Prasad]

I don't advice  to buy
itel phones.  very soon, telecom operators will  stop 2G services.  4G will be 
the standard mobile service. 

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> On 26-Oct-2018, at 10:57 PM, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> I have heard that some better version of itel phone has come which is
> more accessible. It would be great if anyone tells the exact model.
> Best
> Naresh
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Re: [AI] wish to share an idea

[Sanjay Prasad]

this  is  not a big deal  for most of us.  but tell me how many  sighted people 
can type  eficiently by turning off monitor? 

multilingual sighted typists demand a separate keyboard for  regional languages 
whereas multilingual blind typists won't make such demands.  
my point  is these are our inherent skills and they need  no test for someone's 
approval.  

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> On 24-Oct-2018, at 8:24 PM, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> I wish to share an idea about organizing a competition of English
> typing and that too, without Jaws. The participents will be made sit
> on a pc, with MS word file open. Somebody   with correct pronunciation
> will dictate and they type. After print outs taken, they would be
> judged on the basis of accuracy. Please share your opinions on this.
> Best
> Naresh
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[AI] future technology and accessibility challenges,

[Sanjay Prasad]

Sent from my iPhone using Braille screen input.
today I  read an article on facial recognition system which will be implemented 
in selective airports from 2019  february 2019.   this, they say will expedite 
the checking and boarding procedure. 
paytm has also started to work on this technology which will eliminate  2 
factor authorisation and, will in turn save users time and such corporations' 
money.  
this technology expects us to look at the smart camera  which is impossible for 
many totally blind consumers.

what  can be the accessible solutions for such future technology?  
this is just for your information and  contemplation




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Re: [AI] Strict actions against Paytm

[Sanjay Prasad]

 mobikwik is more accessible in android devices  but hopeless for   blind ios 
users. 

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> On 21-Sep-2018, at 5:20 PM, bhawani shankar verma  
> wrote:
> 
> Now It is a time to file a PIL in supreme court against all the
> regulatories regarding compliance of WCAG. I experienced that mobikwik is
> more accessible than paytm.
> 
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, 3:57 p.m. Abhisar Waghmare, 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear AI mates,
>> Its been very long now and accessibility of Paytm iOS app is getting worse
>> update by update.
>> Paytm is not coming above its pathetic accessibility.
>> What are the possible strict actions that can be taken against Paytm so
>> that no matter what Paytm doesnt neglect our community in the future.?
>> 
>> Best Regards-
>> Abhisar
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Re: [AI] FW: Inaccessibility of the Union Bank Internet Website

[Sanjay Prasad]

I have been an account holder of union bank of India since 2012.   we, the  
visually impaired customers  are facing this problem since  june 2018.   but, 
surprisingly, umobile app is fairly accessible  in ios devices.   Now I coolly 
migrated from  desktop site to mobile app.  

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> On 21-Sep-2018, at 9:55 PM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> 
> My  salary account Corporation bank is also partially accessible...
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kotian, H P 
>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
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>  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 5:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Inaccessibility of the Union Bank Internet Website
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> 
>  Hi
>  If that is the case, all other Banks who are on FEBA (Finacle
>  Should also have similar problems. What is the scene with other Banks on 
> this product?
> 
>  In the interim, would they be providing access to the old portal or do they 
> expect, that you should suspend Banking for this period?
> 
>  I think, based on the response to the first query, you can get back to your 
> Bank with the next bout.
> 
>  Harish.
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:13 PM
>  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.' 
>  Subject: [AI] FW: Inaccessibility of the Union Bank Internet Website
> 
>  Forwarded for all Union Bank users.
> 
>  And
> 
>  Warning to be aware for all other Bank customers
> 
>  Kanchan
> 
> 
> 
>  From: AGM DIT Alt Delivery Channel [mailto:agmadc@unionbankofindia.com]
>  Sent: 14 September 2018 11:36
>  To: kanchanpamn...@gmail.com
>  Cc: Mangesh Mahale; R Kandasamy; Vijay Kumar Yadav; Pravin Sharma; Harihar 
> Pathy
>  Subject: Inaccessibility of the Union Bank Internet Website
> 
> 
> 
>  Dear Sir/Madam,
> 
>  We acknowledge the receipt of your letter dated 30.06.2018 on the captained 
> subject.
> 
>  Bank has migrated the Internet Banking portal to new version i.e. FEBA 
> (Finacle eBanking Application) on 11.06.2018. FEBA is a standard product for 
> Internet Banking and standard product is not compatible for visually impaired 
> users. Based on your request,  Bank has already initiated the process to 
> enable accessibility of Internet banking portal to visually impaired users 
> and it may take approximate 4-5 months to complete the development/testing.
> 
>  We are very sorry for inconvenience caused to visually impaired users.
> 
>  धन्यवाद एवं भवदीय/Thanks & Regards,
> 
> 
>  मनोज कुमार वर्मा / Manoj Kumar Verma,
>  सहायक महा प्रबंधक / Asst. General Manager, यूनियन बैंक ऑफ इंडिया / Union 
> Bank of India, सूचना प्रौद्योगिकी विभाग / Department of Information 
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> Shankarcharya Marg, Opp Powai Lake, Powai, अँधेरी (पूर्व), मुंबई -४०००७२ / 
> Andheri (East), Mumbai – 400072.
>  Tel D  : 022-25710505
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[AI] Ai 2 Quaries

[Sanjay Prabhu]

Hi Ai


1. How to convert the PDF to word

2. How to  install OS to computer

Regards,
Sanjay

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Re: [AI] PNB denying home loan on the bases of disability

[sanjay]

In the year 2004, neither I had chequebook nor there was net banking.  HDFC 
granted me a loan of Rs.2.5 lakhs with the mere assurance from my side that 
I will pay all my EMI's in cash every month.  In fact, I was able to clear 
loan much before the schedule.


- Original Message - 
From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" 

To: "Access India" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] PNB denying home loan on the bases of disability



When did such a discriminatory guideline come into existence? I got a home
loan from DHFL in 2012 without such hastles.

Best Regards,
Zujar...

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On Mar 20, 2017 9:51 PM, "BHAVESH PATEL"  
wrote:



Hi friends,

i applied for hhome loan at PNB, however they are denying thae loan,
stating that as per the policy of national housing board,  NHB, we do not
sanction loan to persons with disabilities.
i have submitted all the necessary documents for the approoval of loan 
and

i am rejected for the same reason.
any suggestions would be grately appritiated.
Thanks.


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Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.

[sanjay]

I too was asked to submit a cancel cheque while opening demat account.  I 
told that I am not using cheque book and, I suggested him that I can give 
him the copy of my passbooks's cover page duly stamped with IFSC and MICR 
codes.  I did as I said and the matter was resolved.


- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.


A young friend has to submit a cancelled cheque for her NPS account in the 
office. She has not been provided with cheques as usual. We shall see what 
we can do.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Vamshi. G" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.



Cheque is still compulsory for many activities like availing a bank
loan.  So it can not be dispensed away that easily.  And finger print
authentication has to be tested before implementing at a practical
level.  I think thats the reason  RBI is not making it compulsory.
One solution is to lodge complaint to the next level or on the on line
customer care channel which goes to the centralised team.  There is a
chance that people at the top are usually aware of the provisions for
the disabled.  Of course, we can not expect every blind person to know
about all these.  May be some NGO can write about the ways of
complaining to bank officials on their Braille magzines so that the
awareness can reach  more and more people.


On 3/15/17, Mahendra Galani  wrote:

to avoid such insident, one should start useing other means.
and not inseest for cheque  book.
we can have ATM, Online transfar.

At 08:24 PM 3/15/2017 +0530, you wrote:

Hi, in my case with ICICI bank my cheque book has a print remarking
cheque of visually impaired person, but its of no use, recently when I
went to encash during the time of demonetation, and eventhough I
impressed my thumbprint in front of the bank officials, the manager
did not allow me to encash my cheque, instead he said me to bring my
mother who is as joint name and even when I informed that it is not a
joint account for withdrawal and the mode of ac is either or surviver,
the manager did not allow me to accept the cheque though I was present
there with my father...
What humaliations do we till need to suffer ...
What is the use of an account held or issue of cheque book issued if
it is of no use even at times of emergency...
And all these took place in the same branch where the account was
opened...
???


On 3/15/17, George Abraham  wrote:
> I think the only way to resolve this issue is like in the Airlines at
> the
> time of ticket booking they mention that the traveller is blind and
> needs
> assistance. Likewise at the time of account opening, the bank must 
> note

> down that the customer is blind. Then if there is a variation in
> signature,
> the client can be called up for verification. -Original
> Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of Nupur Jain (? ???)
> Sent: 15 March 2017 11:05
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.
>
> I have got my account in Citi bank and they have never rejected my
> cheques
> as they have given a remark with my name and account in their data
> base.
> Although, the verification happens in the backend, the team working 
> on

> this
> task of verification also have the appropriate data about the 
> customer.

> Yes, they always call me before clearing my cheques.
> I have tried to use HDFC but failed as they rejected my cheques
> everytime.
> Hence, closed my account with them for their bad service.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of Kotian, H P
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:43 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About Cheque facility to Customers Using LTI.
>
> Hi Aruni
>
> Yes, RBI has issued this instructions, however, the ground reality is
> different. In the good old days, it was the branch banking era,
> signature
> verification was done in the branches.They were aware of their blind
> customers and would do the suitable accomodations. However, it is no
> more
> branch banking and this process is done at the back end and there is
> total
> disconnect with the officials and the customers. As a result there is
> increased incidents of cheques getting returned because of 

Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

[sanjay]

Our typing speed in IPhone can surpass any average sighted person.  Thanks 
to the Braille Screen input of IOS devices.  We need not to carry any device 
with our phone.



- Original Message - 
From: "rajendra dhurve" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello mr. bhavani Varma... Will you please clear the picture about
which Android keyboard u r talking about? How does it cost? and from
where we can order this useful device?
Don't u find difficulty to carry it all around everytime with you?
Like travelling in a Public bus, Train, standing on road side etc?
hope to get your respond soon
Regards:
RD

On 1/8/17, rajendra dhurve  wrote:

Can anybody tell how to spell out a word in a text and in what'sapp or
messanger on Android phone?


On 1/7/17, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:

But what is the name or company of the keyboard?
- Original Message -
From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



bluetooth enabled keyboard. can be connected via vluetooth with any
apple,

android and window device.


-Original Message-
From: Shyam M. Sayanekar
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:01 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

Hello Bhavani, which keyboard are you using?
- Original Message -
From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



add more keyboard commands like jaws in talkback. some extent i use
keyboard to operate my mobile phone. specially while making online
payments and i enjoy it through operating keyboard.


- Original Message -
From: "Aakash Bansal" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello everyone,

We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more
accessibility
features in the TalkBack under the collaboration with the Google
TalkBack
Team. We will be highly delighted if you can provide us the major
challenges you face in day to day life in using TalkBack on your
android
device.

Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up the
priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me if you
have
any confusion.

Keenly waiting for a warm response from all!

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Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
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Like IPhone, android users should also be given an option of typing using 
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Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack

[sanjay]

Attending whatsap calls is not a smooth affair for us.  This should be made 
accessible.


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the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello Bhavani, which keyboard are you using?
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concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack


add more keyboard commands like jaws in talkback. some extent i use 
keyboard to operate my mobile phone. specially while making online 
payments and i enjoy it through operating keyboard.



- Original Message - 
From: "Aakash Bansal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack



Hello everyone,

We at IIT Delhi are going to start working on adding more accessibility
features in the TalkBack under the collaboration with the Google 
TalkBack

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challenges you face in day to day life in using TalkBack on your android
device.

Your inputs will help us in choosing major issues and setting up the
priorities for various tasks. Please feel free to contact me if you have
any confusion.

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Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Making Secured PDF documents accessible: any ideas?

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to read my bank statements which are secured I use advance PDF password 
recovery software which will unencrypt the document.  Later you can open 
that unencrypted document with any accessible pdf reader.





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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Railways sends blind candidates to faraway centres fortests

[sanjay]

many of my friends also have to travel 12 to 15 hours to reach their 
examination centres.


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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:42 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Railways sends blind candidates to faraway centres 
fortests




yes i am given senter about 18hrs away from my hometown so what should
i do about this?

On 2/20/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Railways-sends-blind-candidates-to-faraway-centres-for-tests/articleshow/51064022.cms

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Best primetime show with Ravish kumar

[sanjay]

I don't think this is off-topic.

- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:19 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Best primetime show with Ravish kumar



Come on, this is well within the guidelines if you expand your
thinking horizon. This show is the very powerful object of research
from disability perspective. This could wele disturb the normative
notion of viewership. I might right on this NDTV if time permits.

On 2/20/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:

This is absolutely off-topic, strict action needs to be taken against
the poster.
People need to understand, that this list is dedicated only for
disability, and not for spreading antinational shit.

On 2/20/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

Ravish kumar has done many primetime shows with blind people in the
past however yesterday his studio was blind for all the viewers. I
feel this is one of the best prime time ever. Let this link travel on
all social-networking platforms be it whatsap, FB. This programme
should also be circulated in the villages and in the smaller cities of
India. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ3UaQA5td8=share

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] accesible browser for android

[sanjay]

Both firefox and crome are equally good.  it depends on your preference.  I 
prefer crome over firefox.
- Original Message - 
From: "Swarna Badrinath" 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] accesible browser for android



Hi All,

I would like to know which is the browser that is completely accesible
for web access in a phone with android 4.2.2  installed?
Kindly suggest.

Best,
Swarna.

On 2/15/16, mukesh jain  wrote:

hello,
you may direct your suggestions to Mr. Victor Tsaran from talkback
team at his mail id:
vtsa...@google.com

it might take some time to respond but he understands and entertains
the suggestions very gently as per my experience.

On 2/15/16, Pratik Borole  wrote:

Hello friends,

I'm working to enhance TalkBack mainly for web navigation on Android.

Google has stopped updating the TalkBack source code since a long time.
That makes it impossible to get access to the most recent version of
TalkBack. If anyone has any contact of the developers who maintain
TalkBack
(email would suffice), kindly share the same.

--
Regards,
Pratik Borole.

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Experiences with windows 10

[sanjay]

I am using a netbook which I purchased in 2012 with win7 ultimate version. 
I am also getting windows 10 update notice.  If I go for the update, will it 
detect and install the update which is suitable for my netbook?
I am detailing the configuration here.  Please let me know is it advisable 
for me to go for  windows 10.


Configurations are as follows:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description  Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name USER-PC
System Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
System Model 1015CX
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2600   @ 1.60GHz, 1600 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 
Logical Processor(s)

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 1.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 1.43 GB
Total Virtual Memory 3.98 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.21 GB


- Original Message - 
From: "Austin Pinto" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Experiences with windows 10



you are welcome.
i would like all our access india members to go and grab the upgrade.
if you have any questions regarding it just send a mail.
cause this os is our os.
microsoft is listening to all the accessability problems that we have.
and once you upgrade you can use the windows feedback app to give
microsoft feedback about the problems that you have.
just keep in mind that dont try upgrading over a unstable internet
connection or when there is high chance of a power outage also keep a
sighted help around however with windows 10 the chance of you
requireing help is less as even if the upgrade fails your pc will be
restored to the previous condition it was in.

On 2/13/16, gufran ahmed  wrote:

thanks

On 2/13/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:

also if you have windows 8 you have to first upgrade it to 8.1 and
then upgrade it to 10

On 2/13/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:

yes its free for ever if you have a licensed or oem version of windows
7 8 and 8.1
but you have to upgrade before july 29 2016 if you dont upgrade till
that date then you have to pay.
this date may change at any time.
it looks like microsoft may extend the time but dont wait.
upgrade as fast as you can

On 2/13/16, dhruv kumar  wrote:

If you upgrade from 7 or 8, it's free forever. Think if you don't have
those you have to buy it.

On 2/13/16, gufran ahmed  wrote:

does win 10 is free for ever? or microsoft charge annually

On 2/12/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:

you should just grab the update.
its fantastic.
cortana is also worth it.
you can join the following groups to ask questions.
win10+subscr...@groups.io
on this group you get news regarding new addons and new releases of
nvda.
then you join the nvdawin10+subscr...@groups.io
on this group you can ask questions regarding nvda and windows 10.
i have upgraded and i own the windows10 nvda group so i can help you
with any questions that you have.
u should definatly upgrade.
and accessability is just improving more and more.
right now its 99% accessable only there are some problems with
twitter
app and dropbox universal app that you get with the windows 10 
store.

other then that no problems.
you will have to reinstall nvda after the upgrade as you may face
some
lags and slowdowns.
if you have openbook 8, jaws 16 and older they will be uninstalled.
at the time of upgrade.
also its best to go to the website of your pc or laptop maker and
download latest drivers and bios and flash them.
if you dont get latest drivers no problem you will get drivers from
windows 10 updates

On 2/12/16, dhruv kumar  wrote:

Hi,
As the deadline to free upgrades approaches, (it's june/july, for
people who're wondering), I'm thinking about upgrading. I've layed
out
my stuff so I can back it up pretty easily so that's not the
problem.
Similarly internet/time isn't an issue, at the worst case I can let
the download run overnight. But my questions are how is windows 10
from an accessibility standpoint? I'm mainly looking for nvda users
who've used it (because that's what I use), though opinions of
people
with other screenreaders would be welcome too. Should I hold off on
upgrading for a few months? should I upgrade now? is cortana worth
it?


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: what about ncert books in english:

[sanjay]

I think English books of NCERT should be made availlable for bookshare 
members.  Accessibility standards of bookshare are blind as well as braille 
friendly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Surya Prakash" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:12 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] what about ncert books in english:



Hello,
NCERT English medium books can also be downloaded on Android phone with 
"NCERT books" app. the app is accessible accept some unlabelled buttons. 
the app can be found at: `

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=isoft.studios.ncert.ncertbooks


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On February 11, 2016 6:36:31 PM Nirmal Verma  
wrote:



NCERT books in english are already available on NCERT website.
Bookshare has put only hindi version of those books because they were
inaccessible.

Nirmal
hai sir i did not find "autobiography of louis braille" and
"autobiography of helenkiler" i also did not find many history books
of indian history in bookshare. what about the ncert books in english
please tell me the way to find the above books. with regards.

On 2/10/16, Nirmal Verma  wrote:

Dear friends,

There have been numorous request for NCERT books for hindi medium

students.
The wish is now fulfilled. NCERT Books are now available on 
bookshare.org


More and more books are comimg on bookshare. Very soon you will be 
reading
bestsellers books on bookshare. With competitive exams coming, dont go 
any

where. Just search it on bookshare.

For obtaining Free Individual and Organizational memberships for

Bookshare,

please contact:

Zainab Chinikamwala,

Outreach coordinator,

Bookshare – India.

Mobile: 9650211575

E-mail:zain...@bookshare.org

Nirmal Verma

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] To introduce myself to the AccessIndia community

[sanjay]

If you ar an android phone user, you can get NDTV and TIMES NOW audio in 
their respective apps.

You can also listen dd and other channels through tune in radio.

- Original Message - 
From: "Saaqib Mahmuud" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:41 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] To introduce myself to the AccessIndia community



Hello to everyone here at the Access India forum.

I'm a visually impaired person with an MPhil in mathematics, and I've been 
teaching mathematics as a lecturer at a mainstream college in the 
provincial government's department of higher education department. I've 
also been a member of the RNIB from 2004 to 2006.


I've also been a Hadley School for the Blind student since Nov. 2004 and 
have so far completed courses in English, the Nemeth Code, word 
processing, the Internet basics; nowadays I'm pursuing a course on the 
Unified English Braille (UEB) and chess!


Though I know braille and am familiar with JAWS and MAGic, in my teaching 
of mathematics [ I've been for the last few years teaching analysis and 
functional analysis to the BS in Mathematics students.] I mostly rely on 
my residual vision: I'm able to read the inkprint and write using my 
eyesight, though from a distance of hardly six inches and that too not in 
the sunlight!


My schooling started at a local school for sighted children in 1986, where 
I stayed for less than a year before being admitted to my local school for 
the blind in 1987, and I stayed at that school till 1994, when I passed my 
matriculation examination and joined college [It was the same college 
where I'm teaching now.] Even during my studies at that school for the 
blind, I remained in touch with the inkprint reading and writing (entirely 
on my own!) and so was able to start college without having to use braille 
or audio.


At college, I opted for mathematics, statistics, and economics as my 
intermediate-level subject combination, but our mathematics education at 
the school for the blind was extremely poor! My eyesight problem and poor 
financial family background [My father worked as a truck driver.] meant 
that I had to mostly do without any tutorial support; the result was that 
in my Higher Secondary School Certificate (HSSC) I could manage to score 
only 62%.


Although I kept myself in touch with inkprint right through my blind 
school years, my handwriting was still too slow and child-like even when I 
joined college, resulting in my compulsion to rely on a sighted person to 
write my exam papers for me, which is a not-so-easy task in mathematical 
subjects.


I had to engage a sighted person as a writer in my HSSC, 2-year B.Sc., and 
2-year M.Sc. exams. It was only in my MPhil coursework that I could muster 
enough confidence in my handwriting to write my own exam papers. The 
difference was that, unlike my previous board and university examinations 
which had all been under an annual system and marked externally, the MPhil 
papers were set and marked by the very instructor who was teaching the 
course.


I also started learning JAWS scripting back in 2005 but then couldn't hold 
on to it due to one reason or the other. Nowadays, I'm learning the Python 
programming language from a video course taught by a Prof. John Guttag 
back in 2011 and now available at the MIT Open CourseWare (OCW) website.


Although I did study one semester of M.Sc. in Computer Science back in 
1999, I would still rate my computer experties at the beginner's level (or 
thereabouts). I feel that I started on so many things without being to 
stick to anything in particular.


I post my question to a webstie called Stack Exchange, particularly on the 
Mathematics Stack Exchange. Here's the link to my MSE profile.

http://math.stackexchange.com/users/59734/saaqib-mahmuud

I occasionally post on Facebook as well and have liked the NDTV Facebook 
page, as well as that of Burkha Dutt. BBC Urdu and Hindi are both my 
favorites (perhaps the latter more than the former); I also would like to 
be able to access Doordarshan Urdu.


I've also been a reader of the Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind from 
Aug. 2001 till Nov. 2009, when they stopped their braille edition.


Due to my rather limited Internet bandwidth, the live video streaming is 
often not good enough; so I wish that NDTV 24 7, NDTV India, and 
Doordarshan each could also start a live audio stream, just like the live 
audio streams of Dunya News TV, a Pakistani channel. Would anyone here 
also like to concur with me on this point?


I think I've introduced myself quite thoroughly (a little too thoroughly, 
I'm afraid). Anyway, should anybody like to get in touch with me, here's 
my contact information.


Mobile Phone Number: 0092-346-952-7638
Number for WhatsApp: 0092-334-541-7958
E-mail: saaqib1...@yahoo.co.in

I can also give out my postal (or geographical) address, should anybody 
want it.


I would be glad to socialise with members 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: can a scanned PDF file be converted into word

[sanjay]

How we can run jaws OCR in lengthy and multiple page documents?

- Original Message - 
From: "Aravind R" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:53 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] can a scanned PDF file be converted into word



if you have abby fine reader or sangeetha installed, you can do.
if you have jaws16 or above, you can do document OCR by pressing
insert+space bar, then d.
jaws will do ocr and display the result which can be pasted into a
word document.

On 2/4/16, iravanan .p  wrote:

 Hai friends,
Do is it possible of converting  a scanned file converted as a PDF
into a word document? If so ,kindly guide me with the conversion steps

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nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Dainak Jagran: Why Dhritarashtra was born blind?

[sanjay]

because they knew selective breeding, blend of geens and cross-breeding.

- Original Message - 
From: "bala9119" 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Dainak Jagran: Why Dhritarashtra was born blind?



Yeah Hindu mythology is great as it connects Gods with animals.
marrying a male Goat, being with a horse to get a child, ridiculous
cheers.
On 2/3/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

Interesting to know that Prior to Dritirashtra Gandhari marriage,
Gandhari was married to a male goat! Indian mythology is the best,I'd
say :(
And the king Dhritirashtra was born blind cause he ordered for the
stoning of a sea-bird is farce.
http://www.jagran.com/spiritual/sant-saadhak-why-dhritarashtra-was-born-blind-13528141.html

स वजह से धृतराष्ट्र जन्म से ही अंधे थे महाभारत में धृतराष्ट्र अंधे थे,
लेकिन उन्हें यह अंधापन पिछले जन्म में मिले एक श्राप के कारण मिला था।
धृतराष्ट्र ने ही गांधारी के परिवार को मरवाया था। लेकिन क्यों मिला था
उन्हें अंधें होने का श्राप और क्यों मरवाया था उन्होंने अपनी पत्नी
गांधारी के परिवार को? आइये जानते है धृतराष्ट्र से जुडी कुछ ऐसी ही खास
बातें-


भीम ने धृतराष्ट्र के प्रिय पुत्र दुर्योधन और दु:शासन को बड़ी निर्दयता
से मार डाला था, इस कारण धृतराष्ट्र भीम को भी मार डालना चाहते थे। जब
युद्ध समाप्त हो गया तो श्रीकृष्ण के साथ युधिष्ठिर, भीम, अर्जुन, नकुल
और सहदेव महाराज धृतराष्ट्र से मिलने पहुंचे। युधिष्ठिर ने धृतराष्ट्र को
प्रणाम किया और सभी पांडवों ने अपने-अपने नाम लिए, प्रणाम किया।
श्रीकृष्ण महाराज के मन की बात पहले से ही समझ गए थे कि वे भीम का नाश
करना चाहते हैं। धृतराष्ट्र ने भीम को गले लगाने की इच्छा जताई तो
श्रीकृष्ण ने तुरंत ही भीम के स्थान पर भीम की लोहे की मूर्ति आगे बढ़ा
दी। धृतराष्ट्र बहुत शक्तिशाली थे, उन्होंने क्रोध में आकर लोहे से बनी
भीम की मूर्ति को दोनों हाथों से दबोच लिया और मूर्ति को तोड़ डाला।

मूर्ति तोड़ने की वजह से उनके मुंह से भी खून निकलने लगा और वे जमीन पर
गिर गए। कुछ ही देर में उनका क्रोध शांत हुआ तो उन्हें लगा की भीम मर गया
है तो वे रोने लगे। तब श्रीकृष्ण ने महाराज से कहा कि भीम जीवित है, आपने
जिसे तोड़ा है, वह तो भीम के आकार की मूर्ति थी। इस प्रकार श्रीकृष्ण ने
भीम के प्राण बचा लिए।

धृतराष्ट्र थे जन्म से अंधे

महाराज शांतनु और सत्यवती के दो पुत्र हुए विचित्रवीर्य और चित्रांगद।
चित्रांगद कम आयु में ही युद्ध में मारे गए। इसके बाद भीष्म ने
विचित्रवीर्य का विवाह काशी की राजकुमारी अंबिका और अंबालिका से करवाया।
विवाह के कुछ समय बाद ही विचित्रवीर्य की भी बीमारी के कारण मृत्यु हो
गई। अंबिका और अंबालिका संतानहीन ही थीं तो सत्यवती के सामने यह संकट
उत्पन्न हो गया कि कौरव वंश आगे कैसे बढ़ेगा।

वंश को आगे बढ़ाने के लिए सत्यवती ने महर्षि वेदव्यास से उपाय पूछा। तब
वेदव्यास से अपनी दिव्य शक्तियों से अंबिका और अंबालिका से संतानें
उत्पन्न की थीं। अंबिका ने महर्षि के भय के कारण आंखें बद कर ली थी तो
इसकी अंधी संतान के रूप में धृतराष्ट्र हुए। दूसरी राजकुमारी अंबालिका भी
महर्षि से डर गई थी और उसका शरीर पीला पड़ गया था तो इसकी संतान पाण्डु
हुई। पाण्डु जन्म से ही कमजोर थे। दोनों राजकुमारियों के बाद एक दासी पर
भी महर्षि वेदव्यास ने शक्तिपात किया था। उस दासी से संतान के रूप में
महात्मा विदुर उत्पन्न हुए।

एक श्राप के कारण धृतराष्ट्र जन्मे थे अंधे :

धृतराष्ट्र अपने पिछले जन्म मैं एक बहुत दुष्ट राजा था। एक दिन उसने देखा
की नदी मैं एक हंस अपने बच्चों के साथ आराम से विचरण कर रहा हे। उसने
आदेश दिया की उस हंस की आँख फोड़ दी जायैं और उसके बच्चों को मार दिया
जाये। इसी वजह से अगले जन्म मैं वह अंधा पैदा हुआ और उसके पुत्र भी उसी
तरह मृत्यु को प्राप्त हुये जैसे उस हंस के।

अंधे होने के कारण धृतराष्ट्र से पहले पाण्डु बने थे राजा

धृतराष्ट्र, पाण्डु और विदुर के पालन-पोषण का भार भीष्म के ऊपर था। तीनों
पुत्र बड़े हुए तो उन्हें विद्या अर्जित करने भेजा गया। धृतराष्ट्र बल
विद्या में श्रेष्ठ हुए, पाण्डु धनुर्विद्या में और विदुर धर्म और नीति
में पारंगत हो गए। तीनों पुत्र युवा हुए तो बड़े पुत्र धृतराष्ट्र को
नहीं, बल्कि पाण्डु को राजा बनाया गया, क्योंकि धृतराष्ट्र अंधे थे और
विदुर दासी पुत्र थे। पाण्डु की मृत्यु के बाद धृतराष्ट्र को राजा बनाया
गया। धृतराष्ट्र नहीं चाहते थे कि उनके बाद युधिष्ठिर राजा बने, बल्कि वे
चाहते थे कि उनका पुत्र दुर्योधन राजा बने। इसी कारण वे लगातार पाण्डव
पुत्रों की उपेक्षा करते रहे।

गांधार की राजकुमारी से विवाह

भीष्म ने धृतराष्ट्र का विवाह गांधार की राजकुमारी गांधारी से कराया था।
विवाह से पूर्व गांधारी को ये बात मालूम नहीं थी कि धृतराष्ट्र अंधे हैं।
जब गांधारी को ये बात मालूम हुई तो उसने भी अपनी आंखों पर पट्टी बांध ली।
अब पति और पत्नी दोनों अंधे के समान हो गए थे। धृतराष्ट्र और गांधारी के
सौ पुत्र और एक पुत्री थी। दुर्योधन सबसे बड़ा और सबसे प्रिय पुत्र था।
दुर्योधन के प्रति धृतराष्ट्र को अत्यधिक मोह था। इसी मोह के कारण
दुर्योधन के गलत कार्यों पर भी वे मौन रहे। दुर्योधन की गलत इच्छाओं को
पूरा करने के लिए भी हमेशा तैयार रहते थे। यही मोह पूरे वंश के नाश का
कारण बना।

धृतराष्ट्र ने मरवाया था गांधारी के परिवार को

ध्रतराष्ट्र का विवाह गांधार देश की गांधारी के साथ हुआ था। गंधारी की
कुंडली मैं दोष होने की वजह से एक साधु के कहे अनुसार उसका विवाह पहले एक
बकरे के साथ किया गया था। बाद मैं उस बकरे की 

Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[sanjay]

I also used alt+numpad 246 to type divided by sign while submitting math 
assignments to Hadley school.


- Original Message - 
From: "Vikas Kapoor" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma



Dear Umesha,

On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written 
by using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to 
be able to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal 
numbers followed by the command, the code automatically converts that to 
the correct letters. For example, you type the code in the word 
application and press Alt+X and the code will then convert it to the 
letter or symbol whatever the case. In the next line I'm giving some 
examples of those characters, which I generated by applying the above 
mentioned command in the word application.


• „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹

‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″

Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Umesha S E
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

 Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma


 Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam.
 In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can
 use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator,
 select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator
 displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal
 number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6).

 “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to 
letters

 in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?”
 I could not understand. Can you elaborate?

 I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you
 can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare
 occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem,
 we can find proper solution.

 “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.”
 I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to
 convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific
 situation and explain it, we can find alternatives.

 Umesha



 On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
 > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in 
your
 > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal 
letters
 > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. 
I'm
 > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then 
why

 > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
 >   - Original Message -
 >   From: Him Prasad Gautam
 >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 > concerningthe disabled.
 >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
 >   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
 >
 >
 >   hi,
 >   Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
 >   assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
 >   basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
 >   two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider 
as

 >   two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
 >   In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
 >   the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
 >   are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
 >   There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
 >   nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
 >In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
 >   they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
 >   considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
 >   than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
 >   so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
 >   the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
 >   as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
 >   In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
 >   5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
 >   i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
 >   Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
 >   two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, 
three

 >   as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
 >   Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
 >   It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
 >   system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
 >   Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
 >   capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
 >   produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
 >   formulas to convert the decimal figure 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[sanjay]

I wonder how much annoyance and irritation may cause these audio signals in 
public places like railway stations and bus stands etc.  tactile and raised 
flooring  near  the entrance of the coaches with Braille numbers  on the 
coaches may serve better.


- Original Message - 
From: "Vedprakash Sharma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 5:58 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
Mysuru,Varanasi



Braille is not the best solution. But unless we get the best, we have to 
be satisfied with the available.

There is a solution to every problem.
In Western countries, as you enter the building indoors, turn and face the 
right wall. A big braille display welcomes you with a lot of info about 
the place.
In many hotels in U S, at the left side of the door, on the frame of the 
door, the room number is written in braille at a designated height so that 
you can guess where is the number written.


Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of George Abraham

Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 11:59 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, 
Varanasi


Braille is useful once you get to it. In a public space the challenge will 
be to get to it. I have nothing against Braille. I am simply saying that 
in a crowded Railway station Braille is not the best solution.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: 01 February 2016 11:12
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, 
Varanasi


A perfectly rational stand, I concurr with Umesha.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Umesha S E

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:36 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, 
Varanasi


Friends,
Why are you arguing consistently for only one mode of access? I don’t know 
who said Braille is bad. But, every mode of access has its own merits and 
demerits and it equally applies to Braille. We need to understand that 
Braille is not the panacea for all the accessibility problems. I have seen 
here and many times some people argue consistently for Braille without 
looking into its usability. It is clear that Braille is very useful in 
locating seats, births, toilets, emergency exits, reserved seats for 
disabled, etc. There is no second word in it. No one can deny that. It is 
also useful in reading coach number after getting into the coach. For 
example, if one has boarded a coach by asking some lay person on the 
platform and he wants to confirm after boarding, whether what that person 
told is correct or not.
All this is good but it does not end the problem. I am not against 
Braille, or south western railway, or Mysore division. What I meant to say 
is that the issue is not yet over. One cannot identify the coach number 
before boarding. If one has to travel safely, he has to stand on the 
platform approximately at the position where his desired coach will 
arrive. For this to happen seamlessly, the audio announcement should be 
implemented to the polls on the platforms having display boards for the 
coaches. Also the coaches should have audio announcement system. Because, 
sometimes the coaches may not stand at the proper positions, or there may 
not be the prior display of coach array on the platform. Someone may 
oppose this on behalf of deaf blind. But, on the same line, I can oppose 
Braille on behalf of those who don’t know Braille. But I won’t do it as it 
would lead us nowhere.
What I oppose clearly is claiming a train, or any service for that matter, 
as completely accessible just by putting some Braille labels.
For example: most of you know the accessible ATM movement led by Indian 
bank energized by our own friend Prashanth. In our university campus, 
there is a state bank of Mysore ATM which has some Braille label on cash 
dispenser, slip dispenser, etc. it also has an earphone jack. I was very 
happy on seeing that in the illusion that it an accessible ATM. But, upon 
examination, it was 

Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account

[sanjay]

Of course, I also explained them that my preferred mode of transaction is 
online.  They are convinced to that extent.  I explained everything to

feedb...@angelbroking.com
I hope the problem will be solved soon.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" <tilakjoshi1...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account



Hi!

When I wanted to have my Demat Account I didn’t have to face any
difficulties however they did suggested me not to take Online facility
and use a cheque for transaction purpose but I manage to explain them
that there is no security risk if they offer me Online Account, I am
having Demat Account with Tata Capital Securities.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.


On 1/29/16, sanjay <sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

In fact, I never opted for notary. it was purely their creation.
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To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account



Hi Sanjay,

Technically speaking, you had two options: 1st was to request two
senior employees of the brokerage house to attest your thumb
impression and 2nd is to get it notarized, in which case brokerage
house can very well ask for the charges which they have incurred (try
and get an invoice for it as they are corporates and their notary
official should not have any problem in issuing an invoice). But if
you have opted for notary, the broker is not liable to pay any charges
incurred for the same.

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Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account

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In fact, I never opted for notary. it was purely their creation.
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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account



Hi Sanjay,

Technically speaking, you had two options: 1st was to request two
senior employees of the brokerage house to attest your thumb
impression and 2nd is to get it notarized, in which case brokerage
house can very well ask for the charges which they have incurred (try
and get an invoice for it as they are corporates and their notary
official should not have any problem in issuing an invoice). But if
you have opted for notary, the broker is not liable to pay any charges
incurred for the same.

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[sanjay]

Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either 
government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole cannot 
have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not, for deaf-blind 
persons braille is the best option.  Those who think having braille symbols 
in public places is not a solution should do their homework again.  Any 
disability organisation which might have advocated braille in public places 
have done so, considering the needs of all disability categories.  Let there 
be braille and audio.  We soil our hands while reading braille symbols not 
because of braille but because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.



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concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
Mysuru,Varanasi




I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille has
to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what he/she
prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.

On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:

We all know who the Govt consults!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru,
Varanasi

I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that Braille was 
a

bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met him at the NCDEPD
meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and told me that it had 
been

recommended by one of our groups and it had come as a suggestion from our
sector and that they would not have done it without consulting  with the
Visually Impaired.
So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this
accessibility stunt?
Let someone have the guts to own up to this.
Kanchan

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Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM
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concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru,
Varanasi

Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is a very
bad idea.

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Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: 27 January 2016 19:22
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru,
Varanasi

With due respect, I think this is not really helpful. Article does not 
talk

about any feature other than Braille signage.

Does railways guarantee the cleanliness of train?

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C


On 27-Jan-2016, at 16:25, Monica Eyeway  wrote:

The New Indian Express

MYSURU: The visually challenged-friendly Mysuru railway station has now
added one more feather in its cap.

The country’s first visually challenged-friendly train runs between it 
and

Varanasi.

The bi-weekly train in fitted with metal Braille signage to help the
visually challenged locate coaches, seats, alarm chains, toilets and
emergency windows.

The Mysuru division of the South Western Railway wants to extend the
facility to Mysuru-Talaguppa, Mysuru-Tirupati, Mysore -Mayilatuthurai
Express trains before March end.

Divisional Railway Manager Rajkumar Lal said the introduction of Braille
signage in coaches is in line with his concern for the visually
challenged.

“I can see many of the visually challenged struggle and ask people for
directions to ticket counters, platforms, railway coaches and seats”, he
said. Lal said it took Rs 2 lakh and two months to get the train fitted
with Braille signage by a Bengaluru-based company.

“I will see that this is done (in three other trains) before March-end
using Member of Parliament Local Area Development Fund’, he said.

Mohan, a visually challenged person, lauded the railways for the 
measure.


He said one can travel in the train alone without assistance from others
and hoped that it would be implemented in all trains in the country.

The Mysuru railway station had recently installed navigation maps in
Braille to guide the visually impaired to reach platforms.

*Terminal at Kadakola*

SWR Divisional Manager Rajkumar Lal said a proposal has been sent to
establish a terminal with six platforms near Kadakola between Mysuru and
Nanjangud at a cost of Rs 67 crore.

He said a terminal at Kengeri would also help run a few more 

[AI] Problems in opening Demat account

[sanjay]

Friends,
In the month of December, I  filled a form for opening a demat account at:
www.angelbroking.com
Their agent contacted me and took all the relevant documents including NSDL 
circular  to open the same. Instead of a cancellation cheque, I submitted cover 
page of my passbook stamped with MICR and IFSC code.  As I put thumb impression 
in the application form, they asked me to notarise the same. And, I was also 
assured they will bear the cost.  With their employer, I approached an advocate 
and all the documents were notarised.
But now they are  asking me to notarise one more document and pay the cost of 
all the  notaries done till this date.  The cost is around Rs.800.00
Now my question to learned legal experts of this group is:  Do I have to go to 
the notary and pay all the cost?  or should I drop the agency and go for the 
new one?  Please also let me know who in SEBI entertains our grievances. 
Thanks for your advice.

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Re: [AI] accessibility of MS access

[sanjay]

Please explain  after opening the new database, how to create tables in MS 
OFFICE 2007.
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Subject: Re: [AI] accessibility of MS access



hi,
I am using office 13 MS access without any issues.


On 1/16/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

What is the exact problem that you are having?

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Subject: [AI] accessibility of MS access

Friends,
I was able to use ms access in Office xp and office 2003.  From Office 
2007

onwards, I am struggling to create tables in ms access.
If anybody is using ms access from office 2007 onwards, please guide me.
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Re: [AI] accessibility of MS access

[sanjay]

Upto Office 2003, I was able to create tables and enter data.  I was also 
able to retrieve data through queries.  But from Office 2007 onwards, I am 
not able to understand its interface.  So, neither I am getting datasheet 
view nor design view.  I  am finding it difficult to create tables in ms 
access.




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Hi,

What is the exact problem that you are having?

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Friends,
I was able to use ms access in Office xp and office 2003.  From Office 
2007

onwards, I am struggling to create tables in ms access.
If anybody is using ms access from office 2007 onwards, please guide me.
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Jaws commands for navigating youtube videos please?

[sanjay]

If you are using firefox,the key combinations  alt+k alt+j and alt+l do this 
for you.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rishi Kewalramani" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] Jaws commands for navigating youtube videos please?



Hi friends,

Can somebody help me with the Jaws commands to navigate youtube videos?

So for example, in NVDA, we press NVDA plus space bar to get into the 
browse

mode I believe, and then when we press left or right arrow, the youtube
video rewinds and forwards respectively. And to pause we press the space 
bar

etc.

So what are the equivalent  commands in Jaws to pause, rewind, forward
youtube videos?

Thanks and regards,

Rishi.


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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[sanjay]

Please forget about cassette recorders and cassette players.   They are out 
of the market now. 




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[AI] accessibility of MS access

[sanjay]

Friends,
I was able to use ms access in Office xp and office 2003.  From Office 2007 
onwards, I am struggling to create tables in ms access.
If anybody is using ms access from office 2007 onwards, please guide me.
thanks.

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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[sanjay]

As teachers They aare familiar with different handwritings.  Now they have 
to develop listening skills as well.  They also have to spend hours to 
evaluate these audio answer papers.

This is nothing but another way of hiding our educational backwardness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rajesh H Mehta" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



It is equally challenging for teacher while checking different hand
writings.




From:   "li...@srinivasu.org" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning  the disabled." 
Date:   01/12/2016 02:51 PM
Subject:Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
Sent by:"AccessIndia" 



One step towards independent exam system. But I believe it would be good
to provide options like use of computer or recording. Sensitising
examination authorities would also be needed to avoid bitter experience.

I see it may be a bit challenge for teachers during correction as accent
may vary.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C


On 12-Jan-2016, at 13:52, George Abraham  wrote:

Would be interested in knowing  the groups view on this initiative!

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: 12 January 2016 13:32
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning the disabled.

Subject: [AI] Blind can record answers

Times of India:

Blind students can 'record' board exam answers on tape recorder
Abhishek Choudhari
| TNN | Jan 9, 2016, 04.24 PM IST
NAGPUR: Don't be surprised if during this summer's state board exam a

candidate asks the invigilator for additional 'cassette' instead of
additional supplement.

Students suffering from visual impairment (partial/full) can now record

their answers on tape recorder rather than taking help of a writer. This
new rule

is part of a slew of revolutionary changes brought in for special needs

students by state school education minister Vinod Tawde.


Speaking to TOI, Tawde said, "Visually impaired students can get the

questions read to them 20 minutes before the paper starts so that they can
get a feel

of things. Their answers will be recorded and the device will be sent

for evaluation in the same way we send the traditional answer sheets." For
all special

needs students the minister has offered other exam concessions, like 20

minutes extra time per exam hour, liberal evaluation, grace marks,
facility of

talking calculator, on-screen reading software (if available) etc.

Students suffering from cerebral palsy, autism, impairment of speech and
hearing, physical

disability, spastics, learning disorder etc are some who have been given

these examination concessions. Parents who have children with special
needs have

been advised to get in touch with their schools and local board office

for details.


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Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer who holds driving lisence and drives to work

[sanjay]

Those individuals know how to fool the doctors while availling blindness 
certificate.


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From: "Mahesh Narasimhan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer 
who holds driving lisence and drives to work




Dear George Sir,

Thanks for the information. This is a point of concern for all the
visually impaired persons. I strongly believe there are individuals
amongst us who are 1 eyed and availing the benifits that a visually
impaired person would get. In such situation, where the institutions
that provide such persons the benifit of higher education or
employment must put such candidates for thorough medical tests. In
fact, I say, all the candidates who apply against PWD, must be put for
thorough medical tests. If found guilty in the medical tests, there
must be a portal wherein such candidates must be black listed and no
government organization must give them any chance of higher education
or employment.

--
"Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears"

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 1/6/16, George Abraham  wrote:

Mahesh, One eyed people are not considered disabled!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 06 January 2016 11:26
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind 
lecturer

who holds driving lisence and drives to work

Dear Folks,
Greetings!

I wish to know, is a one eyed person visually impaired person if that
person has normal vision in the eye? I believe, that person is normal.

In recruitments and selections of PWD, the concerned institutions must
go for medical tests of such individuals. If found guilty, such
individuals must face capital punishment because such individuals
enjoy all benifits that accrue that a PWD gets whereas in normal
course will not enjoy.

--
"Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears"

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 1/5/16, narayan gadhvi  wrote:

Hello friends, we also got a Blind music teacher who goes on work on his
bike and Gujarat so what we can do


On January 5, 2016 3:17:39 PM avinash shahi 
wrote:


-- Forwarded message --
From: avinash shahi 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:14:29 +0530
Subject: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer who holds
driving lisence and drives to work
To: "pratap.m00" 
Cc: jnuvision 

This intervention by the Delhi Government was warranted and timely.
TOI 10 December 2015


DU college's hiring process under lens
NEW DELHI: The Delhi government has once again locked horns with Delhi
University, this time by stopping the recruitment process at Aditi
Mahavidyalaya. Education minister Manish Sisodia issued an order on
Tuesday evening instituting an inquiry and the director of higher
education asked the college to stop the recruitment till the inquiry
is over.

The Bawana college is one of a dozen affiliated to DU that are funded
entirely by the Delhi government.

Sisodia's order said his office has received "numerous complaints"
about the recruitment process for the post of lecturer in Hindi
department. The complaints include an objection to the choice of venue
for interviews - the DU guesthouse in North Campus - and an allegation
that the principal's nephew has been appointed as an ad hoc teacher in
the "visually handicapped" category but holds a driving licence and
drives to work.

The inquiry will be conducted by the director of higher education and
the report will be submitted within a week.

Aditi Mahavidyalaya has postponed interviews for teaching posts
scheduled from December 9 to 12.

Teachers' group, Academics for Action and Development has issued a
statement against the governments' move.

"This amounts to political interference," says AAD-member Rajesh Jha,
"If the government had an objection, they should have written to the
university. They cannot write directly to the college. I don't know
why the college administration succumbed."

Jha further observes that recruitment in DU has to be conducted as per
DU's rules. "Next they'll start inquiries against teachers and affect
our service conditions."

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Blindness—Concepts and Misconceptions by Kenneth Jernigan

[sanjay]

plenty of such articles are availlable at
www.nfb.org

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concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 10:59 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI]Blindness—Concepts and Misconceptions by Kenneth 
Jernigan




Hi,

Good piece of info; and worth sharing. Me too liked the article.
Further, I think unintentionally / unknowingly, some of us are
encouraging this attitude in publice; or perhaps we are not doing
enough to change public attitude. Even with regards to interacting
with general public. I feel, along with public attitude towards
blinds, our presentation to the general public is also need to undergo
a drastic change. These are my personal views. Hope much elaberation
is not needed.

On 12/30/15, Shweta Mishra  wrote:

thanks every one for appreciating!
I found this article on google, and liked it very much after reading.
that's why shared on the list.
I too feel every one should read it at least once!

On 12/30/15, avinash shahi  wrote:

Excellent piece indeed. We all should read it.

On 12/29/15, Misbah  wrote:

An excillent peace. thanks for sharing..

On 12/29/15, Shweta Mishra  wrote:

Blindness—Concepts and Misconceptions
by Kenneth Jernigan

When an individual becomes blind, he faces two major problems: First,
he must learn the skills and techniques which will enable him to carry
on as a normal, productive citizen in the community; and second, he
must become aware of and learn to cope with public attitudes and
misconceptions about blindness—attitudes and misconceptions which go
to the very roots of our culture and permeate every aspect of social
behavior and thinking.
The first of these problems is far easier to solve than the second.
For it is no longer theory but established fact that, with proper
training and opportunity, the average blind person can do the average
job in the average place of business—and do it as well as his sighted
neighbor. The blind can function as scientists, farmers, electricians,
factory workers, and skilled technicians. They can perform as
housewives, lawyers, teachers, or laborers. The skills of independent
mobility, communication, and the activities of daily living are known,
available, and acquirable. Likewise, the achievement of vocational
competence poses no insurmountable barrier.
In other words the real problem of blindness is not the blindness
itself—not the acquisition of skills or techniques or competence. The
real problem is the lack of understanding and the misconceptions which
exist. It is no accident that the word "blind" carries with it
connotations of inferiority and helplessness. The concept undoubtedly
goes back to primitive times when existence was at an extremely
elemental level. Eyesight and the power to see were equated with
light, and light (whether daylight or firelight) meant security and
safety. Blindness was equated with darkness, and darkness meant danger
and evil. The blind person could not hunt effectively or dodge a
spear. In our day society and social values have changed. In civilized
countries there is now no great premium on dodging a spear, and
hunting has dwindled to the status of an occasional pastime. The blind
are able to compete on terms of equality in the full current of active
life. The primitive conditions of jungle and cave are gone, but the
primitive attitudes about blindness remain. The blind are thought to
live in a world of "darkness," and darkness is equated with evil,
stupidity, sin, and inferiority. Do I exaggerate? I would that it were
so. Consider the very definition of the word "blind," the reflection
of what it means in the language, its subtle shades and connotations.
The 1962 printing of the World Publishing Company's college edition of
Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language defines
"blind" as follows: "without the power of sight; sightless; eyeless.
lacking insight or understanding done without adequate directions or
knowledge: as, blind search. reckless; unreasonable. not controlled by
intelligence: as, blind destiny. insensible. drunk. illegible;
indistinct. In architecture, false. walled up: as, a blind window."
The 1960 edition of Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary says: "blind.
Sightless. Lacking discernment; unable or unwilling to understand or
judge; as, a blind choice. Apart from intelligent direction or
control; as, blind chance. Insensible; as, a blind stupor; hence,
drunk. For sightless persons; as, a blind asylum. Unintelligible;
illegible; as, blind writing." There are a number of reasons why it is
extremely difficult to change public attitudes about blindness. For
one thing, despite the fact that many achievements are being made by
the blind and that a good deal of constructive publicity is being
given to 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Regarding renewal of Bookshare India membership

[sanjay]

speak to the agency from where you availled subscription.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shantanu Choudhury" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] Regarding renewal of Bookshare India membership



Hello,
My one year Bookshare India membership is about to expire soon.
Currently I am availing membership free of cost.
Can anyone please   suggest me renewal procedure. Is it free or paid
for Indian citizens ?

Thanks,
Shantanu.



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[sanjay]

for me Divyang is not even an abstract concept/term.  it is complete 
nonsense.


- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:06 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi 
for the ‘divyang’




Dear Avinash,

if all the demands of the "divyangs" like 3% reservation, nomination
to the upper house etc are accepted, still, this "divyang" would
remain problematic for me. this mythologising of disabled people is an
attempt to shift the focus away from the miserable siuation which most
of us are having to confront with.

on a slightly lighter note, i consider myself an atheist and if our
prime minister's words are to be accepted, then, it underscores that
it's god who made me blind, made someone deaf, someone mentally
retarded. therefore, it reinforces my belief in denouncing an entity
who had compelled me to face a far stiffer struggle for existance than
my non-"divyang" counterparts.

sincerely, Anirban Mukherjee

On 12/28/15, avinash shahi  wrote:

As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
the Prime Minister, it’s a cruel joke with their lives.‘what’s in a
name’, they say.


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[sanjay]

That's true Avinash.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision" 
; "pratiksha.baxi" ; 
"sayeverything" 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
the ‘divyang’




As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
the Prime Minister, it’s a cruel joke with their lives.‘what’s in a
name’, they say.


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: [Mobile.AI] How is KNFB Reader better than otherfree scan apps?

[sanjay]

It is around Rs.6000.  If you purchase before 4th January,  you will get 25% 
discount.


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To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] [Mobile.AI] How is KNFB Reader better than 
otherfree scan apps?




I want to know cost of KNFB reader.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:21 PM
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs. '; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issues concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] [Mobile.AI] How is KNFB Reader better than other free 
scan

apps?

KNFB is better due to three reasons.
1. it helps the blind take a better picture of the object. There is field 
of

view and tilt guidance feature which enables even a totally blind to take
photo of the complete page with good focus. With other OCR apps, blind
person is never sure if the complete page  is fitting into the picture. .
2. the recognition engine of KNFB are far better than any other OCR app.
3. KNFB has features  for reading and navigating the recognized   text.
Reading with in-built TTS or screen reader is easy.

I use it to demo the power of technology. Everyone is amazed to see its
performance. Some people commented that blind are not "blind" now. They 
can

instantly read print.


-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia
[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vamshi.

G
Sent: 22 December 2015 20:01
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Cc: mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] [AI] How is KNFB Reader better than other free 
scan

apps?

Yes, A4 papers can be easily scanned.  I have recently started using it.



On 12/22/15, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:

The scanning area is determined by the field of view of the camera and
not its size. I believe a4 sized sheets can indeed be scanned with it.

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Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:19 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Cc: mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] How is KNFB Reader better than other free scan apps?

All
Just to clarify, KNFB reader is an app running on both Iphone and 
Android.

Hence, it should be discussed on the mobile.AI list. Request members
to continue this thread there. I am marking a cc on the Mobile.ai
list.
Secondly, I understandsome phone stands are also available abroad to
fascilitate better scan alignment problem.
 Finally, this should not be looked as a primary scanning tool. It is
designed for casual use for quickly reading menues in a restaurant,
bills etc.
Regards
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of sanjay
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:44 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: How is KNFB Reader better than other free
scan apps?

can we effectively scan a4 size papers?
I am asking because our devices are less than half of A4 size papers.
Though rarely, I also come across b5 and legal size papers.  How these
papers can be scanned please let me know.

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From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:31 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] How is KNFB Reader better than other free
scan apps?



Hi,

1. You get accessible feedback regarding page alignment.
2. Better image preprocessing before OCR leading to more accurate
recognition results.

Pranav




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Re: [AI] Chandigarh: Classmates made fun of disability, stabbed him

[sanjay]

You are all invoking fond memories of my school days.
I am also a product of Government school for blind children in Mysore.  WE 
were not even provided accessible text books properly in those days.  In 
those days accessible books means braille or cassette formats.  Despite such 
deprivations, few of my contemporaries carved their own ways and achieved 
academic excellence.   But we were blessed with many big grounds.  Apart 
from running skipping and other outdoor activities,   we invented many types 
of ball games including the indoor ones which group of  few totally blinds 
can play for hours.  I was never  good at sports but enjoyed all kinds of 
such games which were our own products.  Today, the situation has improved a 
lot.  There is scope for  all round development of blind children in the 
schools exclusively meant for blind.  In our school campus, I never had a 
feeling of blindness.  Sedentary life is common today even among children - 
blind or sighted.  I feel  in case of blind children, apart from basic 
education and other skills, more stress should be given to their outdoor and 
sports activities which is difficult to carry on as adults.  I wonder how 
many blind  schools pay heed towards this aspect of childhood.







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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: How is KNFB Reader better than other free scan apps?

[sanjay]

can we effectively scan a4 size papers?
I am asking because our devices are less than half of A4 size papers.
Though rarely, I also come across b5 and legal size papers.  How these 
papers can be scanned please let me know.


- Original Message - 
From: "Pranav Lal" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:31 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] How is KNFB Reader better than other free scan 
apps?




Hi,

1. You get accessible feedback regarding page alignment.
2. Better image preprocessing before OCR leading to more accurate 
recognition

results.

Pranav




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Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India Will Help Blind People Echolocate

[sanjay]

Though I have good mobility skills as a totally blind person, I too cannot 
walk straight without a cane/sighted guide in outdoor environments.  I am 
also feeling that my mobility was much better a decade ago than what it is 
today.  Now-a-days, I don't feel like travelling alone.  I wonder,   is it 
an age factor specific to we the blinds or am I alone facing this problem?



- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India 
Will Help Blind People Echolocate




I think I don't know what is straight!


Perhaps is a direction of space apprehended visually most readily, as we 
struggle to apprehend and follow it tactually and auditorily.


So blind people are hardly straight!
Smile.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
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A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of mukesh jain

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:58 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India 
Will Help Blind People Echolocate


hello aruni sir,
Well,  this is very interesting question asked by you as I do face
this problem to walk in a  straight line dispite holding walking cane.
Hence, I practice to compensate these difficulties with the help of
any assistive devices such as, walking  cane, aussion, surrounding
noice, balancing my body to prevent misdirections. Due to these
inefficiency, I happen to fall on railway tracks on mumbai suburban
railways just to share my helplessness if do not have the good
mobility skills especially outdoor.  Hence, can not comment upon the
outdoor mobility much as I feel that even you have any assistive
device with you, you ought to have the body controlled to move in a
direction you desire for instance, your sense to catch the
surroundings and your physical response such as, when you intend to
walk straight, capture the side surroundings  with  your Perceive by a
physical sensation, e.g., coming from the skin or muscles. As I feel
that this should happen by  Detecting  some circumstance or entity
automatically. So in my personal opinion, if you are trying to
persuade  the habbit of walking straight with this gadget alone, then
I would surely not recommend. Yes, as I mentioned, it can surely help
you identify the objects in the direction you are moving and which
fall in to your way in front. I am greatly benifiting to move around
in my office, home to locate the objects mentioned in my earlier mail.

So do get back if you have any further doubts.
These are my personal experience and may not necessarily be adhere to
the universal guidelines of mobility.



On 12/12/15, Vispi Mirza  wrote:

On 12/12/15, Aaruni Sharma  wrote:

Hi Mukesh, Do you get the feedback from the surroundings or only in the
direction you are moving. Can it help in walking in a straight line?

On 8 December 2015 at 12:21, mukesh jain  
wrote:



AUSION is an innovative electronic mobility and travel aid for the
visually impaired. Based on the principle of echolocation, AUSION
enables me to
move around indoors and outdoors with confidence and least assistance.
AUSION basically acquires information about the environment,
especially objects and obstacles
and translates them into sounds and tactile information that can be
heard and felt. The interpretations of these audible and tactile
feedbacks enable the
virtual recreation of the environment. AUSION is compact, handheld,
maneuverable, non-intrusive device. This offers a greater freedom of
movement to me
and helps detect overhanging obstacles at the chest, shoulder and head
levels. I specially benefited it lot in indore when I am at home if I
have to locate the objects like cup plates on the table, when visiting
any  office first time to locate the counters, alerts for reaching
near stares, sometimes if I have to locate dustbin to throw garbage to
avoid touching with my walking cane or bare hands, to get alertss for
polls on the road which sometimes are below the height of the knee to
bar the entry of small vehicles and animals within the premises, etc
and lot more. Indeed, this device helping me lot. So worth
considering. If you want to learn nore about it, visit
  www.innohub.co.in

or send the email to
i...@innohub.co.in

you can also call Mr. Deshpande of InnovationHub Technologies,
private limited, Bangalore on 

Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[sanjay]

vishnu

- Original Message - 
From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha



As an alternative, Please use the mobile link to access most of their
banking services. The link is:

https://m.onlinesbi.com/mretail/login.htm

Please note that the link has some limitations though. Say for
example, things like your profile pages etc still have to be accessed
on the full site only, but this is good to perform some basic banking
activities.

In a nut shell, the glass is at least haf full.

Hope this helps.

Vetri.

On 17/12/2015, Mahendra Galani  wrote:

i feel OTP is best way.
At 12:00 PM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:

hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of
things
making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its
associates
internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. to
my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.

at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.

so what should be done to  make it accessible for us

Amit Pahuja
9650519193
State Bank of Travancore


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Re: [AI] Is railway concession no more valid?

[sanjay]

recently, One of my friends also faced the same problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:18 PM
Subject: [AI] Is railway concession no more valid?



Hi friends, I tried to book railway ticket from the reservation
counter. But the ticket maker told me that their software is not
accepting this concession code. some other friends told that our
traditional railway concession is no more valid at the reservation
counter. and now onwards all the concession tickets will be made
online using newly introduced E-card.
So waiting for your responses.

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

Phone: +919 555 555 765



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[AI] Please ignore my inadvertently forwarded message

[sanjay]

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Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[sanjay]

What's the problem in using OTP  as an alternative?

- Original Message - 
From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha



Really its a disappointment. We should write to the SBI authorities,
to introduce audio capcha.

On 12/17/15, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:

As an alternative, Please use the mobile link to access most of their
banking services. The link is:

https://m.onlinesbi.com/mretail/login.htm

Please note that the link has some limitations though. Say for
example, things like your profile pages etc still have to be accessed
on the full site only, but this is good to perform some basic banking
activities.

In a nut shell, the glass is at least haf full.

Hope this helps.

Vetri.

On 17/12/2015, Mahendra Galani  wrote:

i feel OTP is best way.
At 12:00 PM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:

hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of
things
making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its
associates
internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. 
to

my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.

at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.

so what should be done to  make it accessible for us

Amit Pahuja
9650519193
State Bank of Travancore


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Bangalore, Karnataka
India - 560027

Cel: +919597784596 or +919442558365.

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] want to cut paste or delete a audio file

[sanjay]

you can use goldwave or audacity for this purpose.

- Original Message - 
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concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 4:10 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] want to cut paste or delete a audio file



Dear friends,
I want to cut , paste or delete any part of a m p 3 audio file please
tell me  through witch  software I can do it software should be jaws
friendly and please tell me steps to do these actions .
hanks navneet



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Regarding Internet Banking:

[sanjay]

I have been using union bank's net banking since three years.  It is 
accessible.

visit:
www.unionbankonline.co.in for more information
there is a link  called self user creation where you can avail  internet 
banking facility without going to bank.



- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:18 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Regarding Internet Banking:


what about union bank net banking accessibility? Anyone in this list 
using?


On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 6:56 PM, nidhi kothari 
wrote:


On 12/9/15, Vidhya Y  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I wish to know if any of you use Internet Banking?
> if yes, what are the main challenges in terms of accessibility?
> or any other challenges?
> and do banks give Internet Banking Facility to Blind?
> please reply as soon as Possible, maybe by today Evening.
> I have a Project, and thought, it would be good to talk from
> Inclusivity point of view as well.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Vidhya.
>
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hi friends, banks have given a very good facility of net banking. it
is also available for blind. i'm also using net banking since 2
months, and i din't have find any chalanging turms in it. u can also
try it.



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: request to send bank letter or g.o. regarding issueing of a.t.m. cards to the visually disabled persons regarding

[sanjay]

You are right Amar. Many times, I requested for chequebook from Dena bank, 
Jogeshwari West Branch, Mumbai.  in person, through telephone  as well as 
through emails.  Despite submitting both the circulars, they are denying me 
chequebook facility.
  Here I am pasting the  text of the brief email which I sent a month ago. 
Due to privacy and security concerns,  I deleted my account number after 
pasting.




Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:42 PM

subject: Reg. issuance of cheque book

Dear Branch Manager of Jogeshwari West,

Please recall our telephonic conversation which I had with you today at 
around 12:00 pm wherein you expressed your inability to issue chequebook for 
me due to my visual impairment and also because I use thumb impression for 
signature.
You are requested to  go through the RBI and IBA circulars in this regard 
which I attached with this email for your perusal and let me know your 
decision as soon as possible.
On the basis of the attached  circulars, I availed ATM/debit card  in the 
year 2009 and, I am using internet banking from the year 2011 effectively. I 
mentioned this fact in our telephonic conversation as well.
I would like to bring to your attention that despite the use of electronic 
payment methods, Wherever the question of paying EMI's and opening demat 
account arises all concerned agencies demand PDC's (post dated cheques) and 
cancellation cheque(s).  As a customer of  your branch,  I cannot be 
deprived these fundamental financial rights.


Please do the needful as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully,


SANJAY L.,
Ac. No.--
  Mobile: 9969636745




- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" <amarjain2...@gmail.com>

To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 4:40 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] request to send bank letter or g.o. regarding 
issueing of a.t.m. cards to the visually disabled persons regarding




Dear Shankar: refer RBI circular dated 4 June 2008 and IBA circular
dated 18 November 2008.  Simple google search will get you both.

Dear Sazid: if it is an undertaking to say that I take all
responsibilities or liabilities for the chequebook, then my advice is
not to give anything of such nature. Commercially and legally
speaking, banks owe us the same liabilities as it would to its any of
the other customers. It is clearly lack of attention of management
which has lead to lack of proper training to employees for delivery of
services to persons with disabilities in line with the norms.

RBI and IBA are now not willing to do anything as they have already
issued circulars  (based on personal experience),  so fighting for
proper implementation remains our challenge. If you wish, then you can
write a well drafted e-mail to the Chairman and seek a response as to
why they want additional letter.

Regards,
--
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[sanjay]

I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in 
keyboard in windows.


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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board



hi Naresh,
First of all, let you be clear.
A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
characteristics.
1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
you press
 the two keys c and h?
And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
keyboard.
Or,
One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
It is specially design for those person who has the following 
characteristics.

1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
using it.
you can download it from:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.exe?dl=0

you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
assigned for it is presented there.
briefly speaking, it has;
k for क, shift k for ख
g for ग, shift g for घ
c for च, shift C for छ
j for  ज, shift j for झ
n for न, shift n for ण
t for त, shift t for थ
p for प, shift p for फ
b for ब, shift b for भ
s for स, shift s for श
etc. etc.  are assigned.
Hope it helps you.



On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:

Hi Him,
I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally I
find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that I
have explained what you wanted to know.
Best
Naresh

On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:

hi,
Are you Visually impaired or sited?
If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting
 in Hindi does not suit your condition.  This approach leads you
always in problem. I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you
clear your condition. I can help you in either condition.

On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:

Dear list,
I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if I
type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be really
grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. I am not
very good with technology but online guidance would definitely help.
Regards
Naresh

--
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Assistant Professor
Department of History
Kamala Nehru College
(University of Delhi)
Mobile: +91308530
Residence: A5,
Staff quarters,
Kamala Nehru College,
August Kranti Marg,
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged

[sanjay]

What's the problem?  there are multiple indicators and terminals for sighted 
folks in most of the stations and other  public places.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel 
easierforvisually-challenged



Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the 
station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? 
They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but 
pays more.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cel: 9433464329
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "jnuvision" ; "accessindia" 


Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier 
forvisually-challenged




"Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and
distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of
trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have
also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the
staircases leading various platforms"
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece


On 10/28/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow 
it

up!
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece
Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the
visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The
Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually
challenged-friendly station in the country.

Rajkumar Lal, Divisional Railway Manager of South Western Railway,
Mysuru, said here on Tuesday that navigation maps in Braille would
soon be put up at various points on the railway station premises.

The tactile layout maps of the station, with distances in paces to
utilities such as toilets, platforms, staircases and washrooms, will
be displayed. The platform numbers in Braille will be written on the
railings of staircases, a railway official said.

The menu cards at the canteen and the schedule of trains will be made
available in Braille, the official said.

A private company sponsoring the project is taking suggestions from
representatives of a visually challenged association to implement the
facility. The sponsor is considering a proposal to engage
non-governmental organisations and volunteers to help the visually
challenged, the official said.

These facilities for the visually challenged at the railway station,
an official said, are aimed at seamlessly integrating with the
Braille-embedded signage being made available in the coaches.

With non-AC conventional coaches manufactured after 2013 coming with
Braille-embedded metal signage on berths, toilets, washroom and doors,
the introduction of tactile maps of the railway station’s layout will
help make the station accessible to the blind, the official added.

While the Braille signage in coaches were announced in the 2013-14
Railway Budget, no railway station has made available tactile maps on
the platform, the official added.

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU




--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: [SayEverything] Today listen badalta daur direct talkwith New secretary General of national association for theblind india Mr. S K Singh from 9PM onwards only on radioudaan.

[sanjay]

many  contenders and many clashes

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From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
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concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] [SayEverything] Today listen badalta daur direct 
talkwith New secretary General of national association for theblind india 
Mr. S K Singh from 9PM onwards only on radioudaan.




Oho
So, NAB is also going NFB way.
Wow!


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राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
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नागपुर Nagpur

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President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of k ramkrishna

Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 7:09 PM
To: sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org; 'bsftb'
Cc: 'accessindia'
Subject: Re: [AI] [SayEverything] Today listen badalta daur direct talk 
with New secretary General of national association for the blind india Mr. 
S K Singh from 9PM onwards only on radioudaan.


If Radio Udan wants to talk to S. K. Singh, there is no problem. But,
justice demands that the channel should have talked to me as well. I am 
one

of the senior persons in the sector and this is not the way the channel
should have handled this issue. If the chennal wants to talk to him, they
should talk to me as well, so that he does not bias the listeners. Either
the channel should talk to both of us, or cancel the programme.
Tregards


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From: SayEverything [mailto:sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org] On
Behalf Of Radio Udaan
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:32 PM
To: sayeverything; bsftb
Cc: accessindia
Subject: [SayEverything] Today listen badalta daur direct talk with New
secretary General of national association for the blind india Mr. S K 
Singh

from 9PM onwards only on radioudaan.

Dear all,
Greetings from radioudaan.
Today Meet with New secretary General of national association for the
blind india Mr. S K Singh from 9PM onwards only on radioudaan.
It will be a direct talk and we will ask him about him aims and
objectives and how he is going to lead NAB india and we will get to
know Why former General secretary Mr. Ram Krishna has filed a case in
honorable mumbai high court right after the election.
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[sanjay]

Not sure about OBC's but SC AND ST employees  have reservation in promotions 
too.
- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:30 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI]SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion



What is the rule regarding SCST and OBCs?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of vivek doddamani

Sent: 02 September 2015 09:47
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Even I too read this news morning but I was shocked to read this news,
I cannot understand before the same supreme court passed verdict on 3%
reservation in both recruitment & promotion but now the same supreme
court is reversing its own order 3% reservation can be given only
during recruitment but not in promotion, I am verymuch feeling
depressed on this decision, we disabled people really required
promotion, this means we are once again done injustice, we struggled
from beginning we have to struggle till our death

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the 
benefit

of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
while clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 
2013
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended 
to
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits 
only

at the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to 
provide
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their 
departments,

companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which 
came

into force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for 
three

percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation 
be

filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: problem about daily attendance help please

[sanjay]

Those stand alone machines are being replaced by Adhar based biometric 
machines which are connected to internet and are completely inaccessible for 
VI Central Government employees.  In January,  I raised this issue with CCPD 
by sending emails.  I yet to receive response from them.


- Original Message - 
From: Sunil Sangtani. sunilsangtan...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:54 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] problem about daily attendance help please



hi Prashant sir; at our office, we've also deploied one such machine
where in one only need to register there thumb once, once it
successfully registered, the machine greets with the thank you
message else it says, press again.
there also a RFID  card option in the same machine. so basically, its
in hands of companies witch system they prefer to use.

On 8/27/15, Prashant Verma prashant...@gmail.com wrote:

Few people have reported that bio-metric machines have been installed in
their office where the aadhar number has also to be typed in after finger
print.
The machine then updates the attendance on the website of the 
organization.


The machines are not talking and it has made the bio-metric attendance
system which was earlier accessible now inaccessible. Blind people need 
to

get someone to daily assist them with attendance.

I am told these machines are being rolled out to all offices. If that
happens, it will create lot of inconvenience for visually impaired staff.
Some intervention is required quickly after verification of facts.



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Behalf

Of Sunil Sangtani
Sent: 27 August 2015 19:01
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] problem about daily attendance help please

There is a solution, if school authorities considers it. Biometric device
can solve the purpose as it provides voice output upon successful
registration  of fingerprint.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 27, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com

wrote:


The signature guide is bigger and shall not be accommodated in the
space provided in the attendance register.
Moreover, then the other columns shall have to be filled like arivals
and departures etc.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] problem about daily attendance help please

I would rather recommend to use a signature guide to avoid all the
issues.


On 8/27/15, arjun choudhary arjun.17.1.1...@gmail.com wrote:
un unsuscribe message dear all we are requestuing for all acces india
message i no get it so request


On 8/26/15, navneet dubey dubeynavne...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I am going to suggest my principal to authorize any
official to certify my present everyday that is I will present in
front any official every day and he will note down my present
everyday but in this case what is the guarantee that every official
will do justice with me in whole future  so I am looking any
circular or guideline of central government that can protect the
rights of blind employees Please help urgently Navneet




On 8/26/15, navneet dubey dubeynavne...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends,

I am ablind teacher in a central government school. I am facing a
problem in my daily attendance on my job. Every day I go to school
and do the signature on attendance register with the help of any
one of my colleague whoever is present on the movement but my
principal says that you have not done the signature of many days .
I want to know what is the solution of this problem is there any
circular or guideline of central government about the daily
attendance of blind employees please send me the link of it.
Please help
Thank you

Navneet dubey




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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Khajuraho and konark

[sanjay]

what about using  the devices with built-in compass.  I think they are 
availlable in market today.  If a person is facing north, east is to his 
right and west is to his left side.  If he is facing south, it is other way 
round.





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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark



Not at all.


Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Hi,
Can mobile apps not assist us in recognizing the direction?
Thanks.

On 8/21/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless we see sun light, no clue can be got about the direction.
Although, compass can help, but during regular outings, we do not use 
them.

Therefore the visually impaired cannot tell the direction accurately
unless they have felt the heat of the sun and speculated the direction 
beforehand.

During night, the situation is worse. The visually impaired can feel
the sun but not the moon and the stars. So unless they are aware of
the surroundings beforehand, they cannot guess the direction.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Dear Friends,

My friend is doing his PhD on literature which involves imagination by
inborn blind and limitations to such imaginations.

Learning few things from here, I am in the process of acquiring
miniature memorabilia’s of various structures and things around the
world. I have got a collection of old palaces in Netherlands,
cathedrals, Eifel tower, Taj mahal etc.

Basically, no description can complete the view that a sighted person
can see and enjoy. But 3d models along with good description can help
blind person visualise things better I suppose. Therefore, I had
raised a question of teachings to blind students about solar system,
world maps, directions etc.

Sadly, not much is being done on it.

DO the experiment, ask a VI suddenly which direction he or she is facing.
Most of the times, they will struggle.

This is not to make fun of anybody to make them aware where do they
stand in terms of directions, position on the earth and so on.


No offense intended please.

Regards




On 8/21/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:

This is why, in such situations, I would try using the vOICe to
remotely sense what is on the walls. You may be able to sense these
carvings as dark lines. Be warned, these are 2d shapes so you will
need a fair bit of imagination to visualize their 3d equivalents.

Pranav

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Behalf Of vivek doddamani
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Even in Karnataka manytemples in Belur  halibedu explain the life of
human being from birth till death which are very well carved on
stones of temple walls, Arkilogical servei of India mentains these
temples, a rope is tied nearly one meter away from these wall
carvings, nobody is allowed to touch these walls, we blind people
should mainly depend on the local guides who explains if you give him
more money he will explain very more thoroughly otherwise he just
explains in a simple manner.

On 8/20/15, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:

Haha, that was a typo of epic proportions. Forgive me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:34 PM, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org 
wrote:


Did you mean carvings or did you mean cravings? I do hope it is a
typo Rahul!

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On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 20 August 2015 12:24
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Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Rajesh Sir,

I totally love you for questions like these. ;) I am told that the
carvings have considerably faded over the years and are barely
discernible with the naked eye. So I am not sure whether it would
even be possible for someone to accurately describe the things that
those cravings depict.

Best,
Rahul


On 19/08/2015, Asudani, Rajesh 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] South Korean Tech Company Announces World's First BrailleSmartwatch

[sanjay]

I wonder how fast we can read with 4 characters limit.

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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:37 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] South Korean Tech Company Announces World's First 
BrailleSmartwatch




http://www.iflscience.com/technology/south-korean-tech-company-announces-worlds-first-braille-smartwatch
A start-up tech company recently announced that it is developing the
world’s first Braille smartwatch.

Based in South Korea, Dot wants to develop affordable technology for
the visually impaired.

“Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for
example, you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice, which
is impersonal,” said Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim, speaking to Tech in
Asia. “Wouldn't you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend's
voice saying it in your head?”

Driven mostly by the continual releases of Apple products, the market
for smartwatches and smart devices has recently grown exponentially.

According to the World Health Organization, there are 285 million
people worldwide with severe visual impairments. 39 million of them
are classed as legally blind.

Currently, smart braille devices are on the market at a cost of $3,000
and above. Dot aims to make this technology available for a fraction
of the cost at less than $300.

This product will be the first smartwatch option for the blind.

It works by using a Braille display on a smooth face, with four
depressed dots or “cells” that continually refresh and reveal new
Braille characters as they rise and fall.


The size of a watch, the product will be light and easy to use. Dot.

If you’re a speedy reader, the device can also be altered by the user
to change the character refreshing speed.

Haptic technology allows for the smartwatch to provide information to
its user in real time, using touch alone. The smartwatch can connect
to any device using a Bluetooth connection, which converts any text
into Braille letters.

With the battery lasting 10 hours on a single charge, that’s a lot of 
reading.


Developed in South Korea, the smartwatch has successfully been tested
on the country’s Braille screens, which are present on ATMs and in
train stations and continually update and deliver information.

“90 percent of blind people become blind after birth,” said Kim, “and
there’s nothing for them right now – they lose their access to
information so suddenly.”

Dot brings the modern wearable technology of now to the blind. The
start-up will make 10,000 Dot smartwatches available by the end of
this year.


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Help: How to open E-Pub file extention?

[sanjay]

use Stanza

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Subject: [Bulk] [AI] Help: How to open E-Pub file extention?



Friends

I've been sent a book to review but I don't know how to open the file
which is in EPub format. please guide me how to open the file.
Thanks
--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Help: How to open E-Pub file extention?

[sanjay]

I tried with Kurzweil 12 but could not open.  Not sure about latest version.


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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Help: How to open E-Pub file extention?



You can easily open epub file in Kurzweil, which I believe you do have
in your machine.

On 8/4/15, SRUJANA AKELLA srujanaakel...@gmail.com wrote:

Sir,You can convert Epub files to accessible formats through
robobraille website.
It requires only uploading the file and mentioning file format of
input and output file and give your Email-ID.
But it has limited file size.



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[AI] Problem in Hindi Typing

[sanjay]

I am familiarising myself with Hindi traditional keyboard.  Please let me know 
how to type the following Hindi Braille letters in print.
Braille equivalent of dot 3
 dot 5 and dots 1 2 4 5 6 
and
dots 1 2 4 5 6 
thanks.


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Researchers to Demonstrate Their Solution for Cheaper Braille Displays at Chicago Haptics Conference

[sanjay]

If this is true and comes to market with the said price, it will be 
affordable for most of us.


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Subject: [Bulk] [AI] Researchers to Demonstrate Their Solution for Cheaper 
Braille Displays at Chicago Haptics Conference




Researchers to Demonstrate Their Solution for Cheaper Braille Displays
at Chicago Haptics Conference
J.J. Meddaugh Sunday, 21-Jun-2015 9:29 PM ET
Stop us if you've heard this one before. A team of researchers are
developing a multiline braille display that could dramatically reduce
the cost and increase braille literacy. This isn't a rerun, rather
another in a growing list of projects aiming to combat the fall of
braille adoption in recent years. Sile O’Modhrain and Brent Gillespie,
two researchers from the University of Michigan will present their
findings at the World Haptics Conference in Chicago on Tuesday.
According to an article from the Economist, The screen of the device
includes a grid of pins the diameter of Braille dots. Normally, the
tops of these pins are flush with the screen’s surface. When needed,
though, they can be pushed upwards to create patterns representing
Braille symbols. This is possible because each pin rests on a
silicone-rubber membrane that sits above a small cavity. The cavity
is, in turn, connected to a tiny pneumatic line and valve. When air is
blown through the valve into the cavity, the membrane balloons up,
pushing the pin above the screen’s surface.
The researchers anticipate that a display the size of a tablet, with
26 lines of 40 cells each, could be sold for under $1,000.
Source: http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=13029
--
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Bhavya Shah
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reader for Microsoft Windows
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: how to claim from one saving a/c to other saving a/c

[sanjay]

Ifg the amount is in 6  or more digits, in all probabilities, the manager is 
right.  I advise you to get a pan card for your mother as well.




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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] how to claim from one saving a/c to other saving 
a/c




but the bank manager is telling that some tax has to pay.  hence
provide me any circular or guide me

regards,
sazid

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Sorry to hear about your father , you are
transferring an amount from fathers a/c to to your mothers a/c [wife of
deceased] would tend to succession ,not an income and not having a PAN 
no.

should not subjected to TDS.
Vijay Kumar

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Subject: [AI] how to claim from one saving a/c to other saving a/c

dear friends, i want to know how much amount will be deducted in the form
of
tax while transfering claim from saving account to another saving 
account.
My father passed away on this month 2nd as he was having some amount in 
his

saving account.  As I want this amount to be transfered from his saving
account to my mother's saving account.  The bank manager is telling that
some amount will be deducted in the form of tax as my mother is not 
having

PAN card, but many of my friends told that no tax will be deducted while
transfering claim from saving to saving account.  please tell me regards,
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: How to read books having extention -- mobior e pub

[sanjay]

I use stanza to read epub files.

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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] How to read books having extention -- mobior e pub



Hi use calibre to read e pub books or convert these into any other
accessible formats like word, pdf, txt etc.


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wrote:
Dear all , greetings. Please suggest me 
how

to read the e-books of e mobi or e pub files.



Regards



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines

[sanjay]

There is no point in arguing here.   The assumption of such provisions is 
blind people who are preparing for professional, banking  and UPSC exams are 
not likely to have the knowledge of either computers or Braille.


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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:11 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines



It is not only the UPSC exam being conducted on whole of the earth all
the time. There are other exams conducted by the government where no
special centers are designated for visually impaired candidates. To
count, state public service commission, state judiciary, state higher
education, state public prosecuting exams, UGC Net and so many exams
are conducted all the time. Will you demand those stupid people to
install CCTV cameras everywhere?  Why don't you demand that IBPS,
those conduct exam using computer system, should provide screenreader
in their system and get rid of scribe? Because nobody can argue that
he doesn't know how to operate the computer, because it is necessary
that the person must have the knowledge of computer to be appointed in
banks.

My argument is that, don't ask for the moon at least. In all
examinations special centers can not be created for visually impaired,
if it is done, it will cause hardships to us only.

We are having legal quibbling by these arguments. the matter is
simple, what you are demanding, mean to strengthen the invigilation by
installing cameras etc. and not compromising on the unlimited
qualification of the scribe, can never be accepted by the government.

On 6/19/15, victor john victorjoh...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe that this is the age of e governance. And the government
from 2004 irrespective of which political party is in power is
vehementaly promoting it. Now when cat exams can be held online using
computers, then why can’t UPSC simply installs few cctv cameras at few
centres for the blind. IBPS also hols its banking exams online these
days. And online exams require constant supply of electricity. So when
the problem of electricity can be resolved effectively while
conducting these cat and IBPS exams, then why can’t government arrange
the same for UPSC exams? I think that the way logistics are arranged
for conducting these exams similarly they should be arranged for UPSC
exams. In cat every year more than five lakh students sit for the exam
and the exam is held online in single sitting.
So lets not fight among ourselves. As of now UPSC or government has
not come up with the argument that they will have logistical problems
in installing cctv cameras. So lets speak our arguments here and lets
not speak on behalf of them.
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines

[sanjay]

Most of the group members including the learned  ones are simply 
legitimising the dependency.  Such provisions can create only inefficient 
and unskilled  blind mass.  Please remember, it was easy for unskilled 
people to survive in 19th and 20th century because they did have plenty of 
works to do.  But today, the situation has completely changed.  Imagine if 
such guidelines are implemented in school and college levels.  I knew about 
a school where writers were also prepared for 10th grade exams  with blind 
students before the exams and, in this process, dull students were ensured 
best writers.   That school was interested only in grabbing newspaper 
headlines by claiming that their blind students did  better than all other 
schools in the state.  Rest I leave to your imagination.  If such guidelines 
are backed by some  institutes/organisations working for blind who are 
interested only in taking credit for  recruiting blind individuals, then 
there is no point in arguing about this subject.

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines

[sanjay]

Once it is made compulsory, all visually impaired aspirants will  become 
computer literate.  Until late 1990's SSC was conducting only  written exams 
for blind job seekers -- usually LDC's and UDC's.  Since 1996 they  made 
typing exam compulsory for all blind clerical and stenographer   candidates. 
Since the year 2004, they migrated to computers.   Recruiting  agencies for 
banks should learn from SSC.  They don't even demand computer skills from 
visually impaired  bank employees.   Otherwise there is no reason why a 
blind person without  basic knowledge of computers and banking can become an 
PO in bank.
By discouraging introduction of computers and Braille in higher exams, --  
both technical and nontechnical, we are making mockery of ourself. 





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Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

[sanjay]

Why blind people should not be compelled to give their exams via computers.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines


Quality of scribe should not be compromised at any cost. People who 
conduct

the exams have to tighten the invigilation. Totally with you on this.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kotian, H P
Sent: 16 June 2015 16:13
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

All
We should steadfastly oppose any move to dilute the scribe guidelines. The
only point of discussion is the alternatives available to strengthen the
invigilation process.

We should rightfully use the UNCRPD provisions to strengthen the case.

Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
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Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: 16 June 2015 15:19
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Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

I also endorse your opinion.
If guideline needs to be blind centric, then the examination venue should
also be within the reach of the candidates. So she/he can easily reach to
the center.
It has been noticed on numerous occasion when the venue was kept on very
awkward and far-off areas.
Candidates of Delhi would be agree with the recent example of OICL
examination center.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
On 6/16/15, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

All
According to me, the writer guidelines should be blind centric.
1 Blindness can come in any times of ones life and therefore the
ability to deal with blindness varies with person's situation
2Technical subjects also needs writer who are familiar with the
subject
3 Writers provided by examination body are usually not upto the mark
and there are umpteenth examples where the blind person has to suffer
as a result of it.
4 Strict invillation is the only solution for dealing with any
malpractise and one can always resort to technology solutions like
videography which is not very expensive these days.

We cannot go back to the 2006 situation which we got it with a lot of
difficulty and convincing.the only way forward is to impress on making
the envigilation process more stricter and to curb any leakages if found.

Harish Kotian

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Sent: 16 June 2015 11:20
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All
Copying below a mail from Kanchan which did not get on the list.
Harish Kotian

Quoting:

Dear Friends,
The time has come to once again discuss this very important issue. Let
us do so objectively whilst keeping in mind the UPSC and SSB's
objections to the qualification of writers.
Just to recap.
1. We had a meeting in Feb. 2008  with the ministry and  the minutes
were recorded and nothing further happened for many years apart from
individuals getting reliefs from different courts on a case to case

basis.

2. Certain senior memmbers of this group approached the CCPD and
Ministry in
2012 and submitted the representation copied below.
3. I am not sure whether CCPD issued the 2013  guidelines taking into
consideration the representation of 2012 or only considered the
representation and minutes of 2008.
4. Many VI candidates appearing for the UPSC 2014   have represented

toUPSC

that the Preliminary examination should be with the candidate's writer
while the Main examination should be with UPSC's writer. They have a
valid point but then the SSB feels that its exam should be with the
SSB's writer. If this goes on and if any concession is made for any
Examiner then we are back to pre-2006 situation.
   5. We have 2 routes open at the Meeting that is to be held this
week- one stick to the 2013 guidelines and wait till UPSC blinks  and

back to court.

or be practical and give some concession on the qualification of a

writer.

Both positions are correct. Both positions are vulnerable and we have
to be realistic and vigilant.
Whatever is the advice of this group I will be carrying to Delhi. I
have always share the issues and have always gone with the majority

opinion.

This has been my baby since 2006 when I first got guidelines for
Maharashtra.
Waiting for a detailed discussion.
Copying  below the 10 page representation that was submitted in 2012.
Can we find a compromise between 2013 guidelines and 2012 representation?

Annexure A
Uniform Guidelines for Conducting Examinations (Practicals and/or
Theory) for Blind and Low Vision Persons
Purpose:
These guidelines are being issued by the Ministry of Social 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Mumbai: Queries on Disability Certificate

[sanjay]

I am also residing in Mumbai since 15 years.  Wherever I was asked to 
produce blindness certificate, I submitted the certificate which was issued 
by Indu rao Hospital, Delhi ButI was a resident of Karnataka.  Nobody 
raised any objection.  If you have residential proof, you can get blindness 
certificate from JJ Hospital.  I am also told that we have to pay two visits 
to avail the certificate.


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From: Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com

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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:14 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] Mumbai: Queries on Disability Certificate



Mumbai Blind Friends: please share your practical experience of
obtaining disability certificate from J.J. Hospital without any
contacts. Following questions I have:

1. I already have an old format certificate issued in 2012 from
Rajasthan, but people in Mumbai are (including the NGOs working for
blind) for issuing anything are increasingly asking for J.J.
certificate and arguing with them about the nationality of it is
getting difficult.
Question: is it possible to get the certificate in the new format by
showing them the old one or will that increase procedural complexities
for me such as asking me to get a verification letter from Rajasthan
amongst others?

2. How many visits one is required to make to get it? I have heard
mixed reactions of the people on this.
3. Heard from some people that they insist for a letter from a NGO for
people who are not domiciled in Maharashtra to issue the disability
certificate. I have not been able to find out as to which NGO would
give me such a letter.

Lastly, if anyone has any sensible contact in the eye-department then
please message me, I just hate this disability certificate procedure
and don't want to see things getting repeated here like in Rajasthan
on the procedural front.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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[AI] Anybody from S.R.T.M. University,Nanded?

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Are you know any Visually Impaired student from Swami Ramanand Teerth 
Marathwada University,Nanded?
If yes,please tell their contact number immediately.
I have an issue related to additional 10 grace marks to Visually Impaired for 
Passing degree examination.


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[AI] Anybody from S.R.T.M. University,Nanded?

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Are you know any Visually Impaired student from Swami Ramanand Teerth 
Marathwada University,Nanded?
If yes,please tell their contact number immediately.
I have an issue related to additional 10 grace marks to Visually Impaired for 
Passing degree examination.


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Digital Braille Versus Paper Braille

[sanjay]

visit:
www.nfb.org

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:48 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Digital Braille Versus Paper Braille



Hi,
Could the article's source link be shared?
Thanks.

On 5/13/15, sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

taken from the Braille monitor, February 2015.

Digital Braille Versus Paper Braille
by Christian Coudert

  From the Editor: Christian Coudert is the editor in chief of the
Louis Braille magazine (Paris, France). He has done some interesting
research about the reading of Braille from paper and from refreshable
Braille displays. Some of the findings from his study are surprising and
may provide helpful guidance for those considering whether to purchase a
refreshable display or a Braille notetaker and how many cells it should
have. We have removed parts of the article that describe how to simulate
the tests done in reaching these results and have tried to smooth a few
rough edges that resulted from translation of this article from French to
English. Here is what he says:

  Let me recount how I came up with the idea of writing this article:
since I have had a Braille notetaker, I have gradually given up reading 
on

paper, preferring electronic Braille. However, without taking the trouble
to check it, I have always been convinced that reading on paper must
unquestionably be much more effective. Indeed, whereas both hands can be
used for reading on paper (the left hand reading the next line while the
right hand ends the current line), this method cannot be applied to
paperless Braille because you have to press a navigation button on the
device to display the text below once you have finished reading the 
content

of the Braille display. Another preconception has always led me to think
that the more Braille cells we have (up to a point), the faster our 
reading

speed will be.
  In order to check the validity of these assumptions, I decided to
perform an experiment with a panel of volunteer readers. This study does
not claim to be scientific. To have true scientific validity, it would 
have
been necessary to select a group of readers and have each of them read 
the

same texts during several timed sessions, assign everyone the same
electronic equipment, and refine the results, taking into account each
reader's age and length of Braille experience. However, the number of
readers involved and the number of reading sessions undertaken enable us 
to

draw what we believe to be objective conclusions that would likely be
confirmed by other studies.
  Before getting into the details of the study, let me make it clear
that I do not write with the purpose of promoting one reading mode over
another. All reading systems are complementary; each person chooses the
system that suits him or her, based on factors such as fixed location or
travelling, the availability of various formats for a given title,
budgetary constraints, and so on. It is also true that a large majority 
of
sighted readers who use digital tablets do not use them exclusively, 
seeing

no need to give up paper and generally seeing no need to decide which
method is better-they let the content and other factors determine how 
they

will read.
  There is no doubt that a Braille reader must first master reading 
on

paper to understand fully the concepts of pages and paragraphs and enjoy
the benefits of the various layouts used in this medium (title centering,
line breaks, paragraphs, lists, and poetry layout). On a Braille display,
where text blocks of eighteen, twenty, or thirty-two cells follow each
other, most of these markers disappear. Hence, learning Braille, like
learning to write, is best done with a solid background in paper Braille.
  For our tests we chose to use Braille notetakers rather than
standalone Braille displays because the notetakers are designed for 
reading

text, whereas standalone Braille displays are designed for displaying the
contents of computer screens and contain more Braille cells. Readers used
their own equipment, and, when they wished, equipment was lent to them.
  When we crunched the numbers after each reader went through several
sessions reading from paper, an eighteen-cell display, and a thirty-two-
cell display, we were a little surprised by what the numbers revealed. 
Half

of the readers had a slightly faster reading speed on paper than on a
Braille display, but the difference was very small, almost to the point 
of
insignificance. The difference in reading speed for each individual 
reader

between his or her fastest and slowest speed was rather low, with the
exception of one reader, who had a difference of thirty-four words per
minute between his fastest and slowest speeds. This indicates that the
reading pace

[AI] Digital Braille Versus Paper Braille

[sanjay]

taken from the Braille monitor, February 2015.

Digital Braille Versus Paper Braille
by Christian Coudert

  From the Editor: Christian Coudert is the editor in chief of the
Louis Braille magazine (Paris, France). He has done some interesting
research about the reading of Braille from paper and from refreshable
Braille displays. Some of the findings from his study are surprising and
may provide helpful guidance for those considering whether to purchase a
refreshable display or a Braille notetaker and how many cells it should
have. We have removed parts of the article that describe how to simulate
the tests done in reaching these results and have tried to smooth a few
rough edges that resulted from translation of this article from French to
English. Here is what he says:

  Let me recount how I came up with the idea of writing this article:
since I have had a Braille notetaker, I have gradually given up reading on
paper, preferring electronic Braille. However, without taking the trouble
to check it, I have always been convinced that reading on paper must
unquestionably be much more effective. Indeed, whereas both hands can be
used for reading on paper (the left hand reading the next line while the
right hand ends the current line), this method cannot be applied to
paperless Braille because you have to press a navigation button on the
device to display the text below once you have finished reading the content
of the Braille display. Another preconception has always led me to think
that the more Braille cells we have (up to a point), the faster our reading
speed will be.
  In order to check the validity of these assumptions, I decided to
perform an experiment with a panel of volunteer readers. This study does
not claim to be scientific. To have true scientific validity, it would have
been necessary to select a group of readers and have each of them read the
same texts during several timed sessions, assign everyone the same
electronic equipment, and refine the results, taking into account each
reader's age and length of Braille experience. However, the number of
readers involved and the number of reading sessions undertaken enable us to
draw what we believe to be objective conclusions that would likely be
confirmed by other studies.
  Before getting into the details of the study, let me make it clear
that I do not write with the purpose of promoting one reading mode over
another. All reading systems are complementary; each person chooses the
system that suits him or her, based on factors such as fixed location or
travelling, the availability of various formats for a given title,
budgetary constraints, and so on. It is also true that a large majority of
sighted readers who use digital tablets do not use them exclusively, seeing
no need to give up paper and generally seeing no need to decide which
method is better-they let the content and other factors determine how they
will read.
  There is no doubt that a Braille reader must first master reading on
paper to understand fully the concepts of pages and paragraphs and enjoy
the benefits of the various layouts used in this medium (title centering,
line breaks, paragraphs, lists, and poetry layout). On a Braille display,
where text blocks of eighteen, twenty, or thirty-two cells follow each
other, most of these markers disappear. Hence, learning Braille, like
learning to write, is best done with a solid background in paper Braille.
  For our tests we chose to use Braille notetakers rather than
standalone Braille displays because the notetakers are designed for reading
text, whereas standalone Braille displays are designed for displaying the
contents of computer screens and contain more Braille cells. Readers used
their own equipment, and, when they wished, equipment was lent to them.
  When we crunched the numbers after each reader went through several
sessions reading from paper, an eighteen-cell display, and a thirty-two-
cell display, we were a little surprised by what the numbers revealed. Half
of the readers had a slightly faster reading speed on paper than on a
Braille display, but the difference was very small, almost to the point of
insignificance. The difference in reading speed for each individual reader
between his or her fastest and slowest speed was rather low, with the
exception of one reader, who had a difference of thirty-four words per
minute between his fastest and slowest speeds. This indicates that the
reading pace is not fundamentally altered by using a device instead of
paper Braille.

Strengths of Paper
  One achieves a high reading speed and comprehension when reading with
both hands because of the ability to begin reading the next line. Blank
lines can be easily skipped, and knowing the boundaries of a page is easy.
The spatial representation of the page communicates the layout and the
importance of empty lines, indented lists, and other formatting is easily

[AI] Ebook Legal Restrictions Are Screwing Over Blind people

[sanjay]

taken from the Braille Monitor, February 2015 

   Ebook Legal Restrictions Are Screwing Over Blind People
by Kyle Wiens

  From the Editor: Kyle Wiens is the co-founder and CEO of iFixit, an
online repair community and parts retailer internationally renowned for
their open source repair manuals and product teardowns. His opinion piece
originally appeared on December 15, 2014, on WIRED.com. He graciously gave
his permission for us to reprint it. As you can tell, he gets it. Here is
what he says:

  In late 2012 a fourteen-year-old high school student stood in front
of a camera and began to read. Chris Nusbaum's voice was calm and steady.
And so were his hands, which ran smoothly over lines of Braille as he made
a personal appeal to Amazon-maker of the most widely-used e-reader in the
world.
  My class has just been assigned a project for which we must use
information in the class's textbook. Every student has a Kindle, which has
the textbook loaded on to it. All of the sighted students can easily read
the material and complete the assignment independently, Nusbaum read. I,
on the other hand, cannot read the book without the assistance of a sighted
reader. Therefore, I am put at a severe disadvantage in completing the
project when compared with my sighted classmates... All of this because of
a problem which can easily and inexpensively be solved by integrating text-
to-speech software into your readers and making sure that your apps and
information are accessible with that software.
  For the nearly eight million people in the US with some degree of
vision impairment, the advent of ebooks and e-readers has been both a
blessing and a burden: a blessing because a digital library-everything from
academic textbooks to venerated classics to romance novels-is never further
away than your fingertips; a burden because the explosion of ebooks has
served as a reminder of how inaccessible technology really can be.
  For more than a decade the visually impaired have been locked in an
excruciatingly slow and circuitous battle against US copyright laws. And
it's left the visually impaired with few options but to hack their way
around digital barriers-just for the simple pleasure of reading a book.


Books, Blindness, and Barriers to Content
  There's no Library of Alexandria out there for visually-impaired
readers. Only 1 percent of published books are available in Braille. And,
while audiobooks are widely available through online platforms like
Audible, the selection is relatively narrow. Audible boasts more than
150,000 titles, but that's only 4 percent of the estimated 3.4 million
books that are available through Amazon. If you're looking for an
independent author, or the collected stories of a minor, long-dead
novelist, or a biography on anyone less celebrated than a celebrity or a
world leader-you're probably out of luck.
  Still, many popular books are available on venues like Audible, so we
asked Blake Reid-head of the Samuelson Glushko Technology Law  Policy
Clinic-whether that was enough. Reid's team works on media and
accessibility issues; they explained: Yes, audiobooks are already on the
market. But there are not very many of them and virtually none for
technical or academic subjects.
  That's why ebooks and e-readers are especially promising for people
with disabilities. There are well over a million ebooks in the Kindle's
Store alone-everything from cookbooks to magazines to how-to books. A lot
of e-readers come prepackaged with a Text-to-Speech (TTS) feature, which
converts the words on an e-reader's screen into a synthesized, human voice.
Essentially, TTS reads a purchased ebook aloud-and that's been an
incredible tool for making the collective digital library more accessible
and more inclusive.
  That is, until the copyright hounds got out.
  When the Kindle 2 was released in 2009, it came with TTS functions
that could be used across all Kindle ebooks. Publishers balked. They argued
that TTS would negatively impact the audiobook market, and that a computer
reading an ebook aloud constituted a violation of copyright.
  Amazon conceded, and it gave publishers the option to opt-out of TTS.
Publishers took advantage of this and removed this feature from a huge
swath of books. And so, the doors to the collective digital library slammed
shut on the blind and print impaired once again.
  Blind people, when we ask for accessibility, we're not doing it
because we want anyone's charity, Chris told us. We want equal access to
the same information that anyone else could have access to. We have the
mental capacity to compete on equal terms in education and in the workforce
and in any other areas of life with our sighted counterparts. In order to
do that, we are just asking for a very simple request from developers and
engineers and institutions of higher education: and that is make sure that
we have access to information that we 

[AI] Responses to What Is the Cost of a Free Product?

[sanjay]

taken from the Braille Monitor, February 2015 
 Responses to What Is the Cost of a Free Product?
   by Gary Wunder

  In the November 2014 issue of the Braille Monitor, we ran an article
entitled What Is the Cost of a Free Product? It was written by Tim
Connell, and I dare say that it was sent to me because I had been trying to
get major screen reader developers to tell their side of the story by
explaining the struggles faced by for-profit companies in an ever-changing
market, one which offers far fewer consumers than most businesses hope to
find for their products. I thought it important to discuss the case that
can be made for the for-profit screen reader development that has long been
the way those of us who are blind have gotten screen access and many other
blindness-related technologies, especially since we have devoted
considerable space to low-cost or free screen reading solutions. My hope
was that the article we ran would stimulate discussion, and, after some
gentle prodding from me, this it did. That gentle prodding took the form of
a question: If access to technology is so important to us, why hasn't there
been more discussion about the models of screen reader development reviewed
in Tim Connell's article?
  Most who commented did not attempt to address the three major funding
models currently used for screen reader development and reviewed by
Connell. Instead, they responded to what they saw as an attack on NVDA, the
Nonvisual Desktop Access program developed and maintained by NV Access.
While the Braille Monitor cannot hope to print each of the responses
generated, there are two that are particularly thought-provoking and add
significantly to the discussion of how we will continue to have access to
information that appears on the screens of computers, tablets, and
telephones. Here, with slight editing, our responses are taken from the
National Federation of the Blind in Computer Science mailing list. The
first is from Aaron Cannon, who apologizes for not being articulate and
then proceeds to acquit himself very well in putting forward his point of
view. Here is what he says:
  [PHOTO CAPTION: Aaron Cannon]


  I think the reason we haven't seen more arguments with Tim's article
is that, frankly, his main points are hard to track. I can't complain too
much, though, since I suspect that he writes much more clearly than I do.
But let me let Tim speak for himself:

The work that the developers of NVDA have done is exceptional.
  On a small budget they have developed a really good product and have
  provided a free screen reader to many thousands of people around the
  world who couldn't previously afford one, especially in developing
  countries. Their technical skills and dedication are to be applauded;
  however, I have a problem with the funding model they have chosen.
  Philanthropic funding is at best a fragile beast, and it often doesn't
  extend to covering services like training and support, which can be
  the most important components of accessibility (especially in
  education). The bigger issue of equity and why we accept such a
  fundamental right as access to a computer to be at the whim of
  philanthropic generosity should be of tremendous concern. Do we
  welcome it simply because the recipients are people with a disability?
  Why is this particular group of people not worthy of a business model
  that guarantees standards of support, service, and viability? The
  developers of NVDA need investors, not handouts.


  Perhaps my brain just isn't working right this morning, but I am
having a hard time following his objections to NVDA. If I understand it
right, he is saying that the funding model for NVDA is fragile, so we
shouldn't trust it. He also seems to be arguing that it's based on charity,
and so beneath us, and besides, it doesn't allow for user support and
training. If my reading is correct, I remain unconvinced. NVDA support is
available from various organizations for a fee. JAWS users, on the other
hand, end up also paying for support, but they do so up-front, whether they
need it or not. Training is also available for a fee, but that's certainly
not unique to NVDA. JAWS does come with some training materials, but
similar materials are also available for free for NVDA.
  I agree that NVDA funding is more fragile than we should like, but
much of what we who are blind rely on is philanthropic in nature. And, if
one source of funding dries up, another one is found. Anyway, I don't see
traditional sources of investment funding being substantially more reliable
than philanthropic ones. Investors/donors come, investors/donors go, and
organizations either find new ones, figure out a way to do without, or
fail. So far NV Access seems to have been able to find new donors when
needed.
  Consider what would happen if FS [Freedom Scientific, the 

[AI] Accessibility at Microsoft More Challenges than Victories

[sanjay]

taken from the Braille Monitor, April  2015 
 Accessibility at Microsoft More Challenges than 
Victories
   by Curtis Chong

  From the Editor: Curtis Chong is the president of the National
Federation of the Blind in Computer Science, and in this capacity he is on
the frontline when it comes to hearing about technical problems and being
expected to offer some fix, work around, or political way to address
problems that keep blind people from being as productive as they must in
order to compete. Because most of the desktop and laptop market is
dominated by Microsoft products, and because Microsoft has had more
experience in dealing with accessibility issues than any other company, it
is not surprising that the president of the computer science division hears
frequently about user frustrations, lost jobs, and opportunities never
pursued.
  Although we are currently engaged with Microsoft in a dialogue
expected to result in some advances in accessibility, this article is
appropriate in expressing the frustration that members and nonmembers alike
have when they try to use products that are essential at home, at school,
and in the places they work. Here is what Curtis has to say:

  There can be little doubt that Microsoft products are widely used
today in almost every aspect of life. The majority of employers in this
country require their employees to use programs from Microsoft (especially
programs that are part of Microsoft Office) to accomplish the tasks they
perform every day such as sending and receiving email, creating and editing
documents, administering databases, managing projects, and so on. At home
many people have personal computers that run the Microsoft Windows
operating system and possibly Microsoft Office. At my doctor's office I
cannot avoid the sound of the mouse clicking as my doctor reviews my
medical chart using a computer powered by Microsoft Windows. While
computers made by Apple arguably are gaining market share, Microsoft
programs continue to maintain a highly visible presence in our lives. For
those of us who are blind, access to Microsoft products is not just
something that we would like to have. Rather, full nonvisual access to
Microsoft products is essential if we are to have any hope of being able to
compete in today's technology-driven labor market, let alone maintain
parity with our sighted neighbors at home.
  For more than two decades the Microsoft Corporation has had a team of
individuals responsible for promoting and assuring the accessibility of its
various products to people with disabilities, including the blind. You
might assume, therefore, that after more than twenty years of effort,
Microsoft would stand out as a leader in the world of accessible software
and that all (or at least most) of the programs it sells would be
accessible to and usable by the blind. If so, you would be wrong! After
twenty years of effort, Microsoft's accessibility team is still unable to
serve as a gatekeeper to prevent Microsoft from releasing blatantly
inaccessible products.
The frustrating reality is that the accessibility effort within the
Microsoft organization has not been given the power and influence it must
have if the goal of ubiquitous accessibility is ever to be achieved. In
other words a Microsoft product is accessible today-not because it is
required to be so; it is accessible because the accessibility team was able
to persuade a specific product group to do what is necessary to make its
product work for people with disabilities.
  Today only a small percentage of Microsoft products are regarded by
the blind as comfortable and intuitive to use. Examples include Windows
Explorer (referred to as File Explorer in Windows 8), most of the Microsoft
Office Suite, Internet Explorer, and several (but not all) functions of the
Windows operating system. Even for these supposedly accessible programs,
accessibility and efficiency have deteriorated as newer versions of
software are released. Consequently, whenever we who are blind hear about a
new Microsoft product, we feel a certain amount of skepticism about the
ability of that product to work with our screen-access technology and are
pleasantly surprised if, in fact, the product turns out to work for us.
  Below are seven examples of how Microsoft has fallen short of what
seem like very realistic accessibility goals. As you consider these
examples, bear in mind that this list represents a tiny fraction of the
scope of the problem and that well over 80 percent of Microsoft products
remain inaccessible to nonvisual users.
. A concrete example of a product that simply cannot be used by
  the blind, but which is an integral security component used in
  employment situations, is Microsoft's BitLocker software, which
  provides full disk encryption. BitLocker requires the user to enter a
  PIN (personal identification number) before the full 

[AI] education issue of blind student

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Please take the positive issue in this regard and approach to authorities for 
necessary actions related to facilities,schemes,concessions,modification in 
curriculum and legal examinations of Persons with Disabilities.

The University Authorities violating the provisions of The Persons with 
Disabilities(Equal Opportunities,Protection of Rights and Full Participation) 
Act,1995.

The universities are not implementing the legal provisions by law,which were 
already implemented in India.
All Universities should take following necessary action for the benefit of 
Persons with Disabilities specially Visually Impaired:-

1)The universities should follow the provisions of 'CHAPTER V EDUCATION' of The 
Persons with Disabilities(Equal Opportunities,Protection of Rights and Full 
Participation) Act,1995,which are given below:

Section 27(f) provides Providing every child with disability free of cost 
special books and equipments needed for his education.

Section 30(b) provides The removal of architectural barriers from 
schools,colleges or other institution,imparting vocational and professional 
training.

Section 30(c) provides The supply of books,uniforms and other materials to 
children with disabilities attending school.

Section 30(d) provides The grant of scholarship to students with disabilities.

Section 30(e) provides Setting up of appropriate fora for the redressal of 
grievances of parent,regarding the placement of their children with 
disabilities.

Section 30(f) provides Suitable modification in the examination system to 
eliminate purely mathematical questions for the benefit of blind students and 
students with low vision.

Section 30(g) provides Restructuring of curriculum for the benefit of children 
with disabilities.

Section 30(h) provides restructuring the curriculum for benefit of students 
with hearing impairment to facilitate them to take only one language as part of 
their curriculum.

Section 31 provides Educational institutions to provide amanuensis to students 
with Visual handicaps:
All educational institutions shall provide or cause to be provided amanuensis 
to blind students and students with or low vision.
•Amanuensis means:
॰a person who writes down what another says.
॰One who write the examination for visually impaired.
॰One who write another dictates.
॰A person whose employment is to write what another dictates or to copy what 
another has written.

2)The Universities should constitute the Department of Educational Empowerment 
of Persons with Disabilities(EEPD).
All disability related procedures and matters should be forwarded to this 
department for necessary actions.

3)The University should also constitute An Educational Empowerment and Advisory 
Committee on Persons with Disabilities(EEACPD) for understanding the 
implementation,inspection and analysis of laws,rules and regulations made by 
Central and State Governments.

4)The study material,question papers should be provided in a accessible format.

5)The Universities should gives an alternative question paper for Visually 
Impaired  instead of visual input questions like diagramatic,graphical and map 
based questions.The candidate should be given alternative text based non-visual 
questions instead of visual input based questions.
A facility for the request to the same(non visual alternative questions) needs 
to be provided at the time of filling up the examination form/course 
registration form.
The candidate will have the freedom to opt for the visual questions,if they so 
choose.
The said preference will be recorded in the appropriate form.

6)If the special alternative question paper is not provided,the Visually 
Impaired Candidates should exempted from drawing diagram,graphs,maps etc. in 
University level as well as College level exam and gives equal marks to that 
visual input i.e.diagrams,graphs and maps based questions.

7)There should be any indicative mark/writing PwD category details in a 
column/special sticker/barcode on the answer sheets of PwD students for the 
evaluation of special answer sheets for evaluator and moderator.

8)The Compensatory time of 20 minutes per hour should be granted in theory as 
well as practical examinations for making use of scribe/reader/lab assistant.
All the candidates with disabilities not availing the facility of 
scribe/laboratory assistant/reader will also be allowed the compensatory time 
of 20 minutes per hour.

9)For practical examination,the candidate should be permitted to use a 
Laboratory Assistant to make observational recordings and conducting 
practicals,wherever required.
The qualification rule of the Laboratory Assistant will be same as that of 
scribe.
Visually Impaired students should allowed to use a word processor program to 
type his/her Journals and then print outs can be either filed as a Journal or 
they can be pasted in a regular Journal.
In absence of computer facility,the student will be allowed a use of assistant 
to write the journal.No criteria 

[AI] Important Issue Grace marks for Passing

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Many universities of India like S.R.T.M. University does not gives additional 
10 grace marks to Visually Impaired for Passing the final examination .
When I approach to University,they are saying that there is no provisions.
But Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary 
Education(MSBSHSE) give an additional 20 grace marks to passing final 
examination for Visually Impaired Student.
Please provide details of fees exemptions,grace 
marks,sticker/Barcode/indication of category on answer sheets of Visually 
Impaired in other universities of India,
What can I do?
Please suggest me. 


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[AI] education issue of blind student

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Please take the positive issue in this regard and approach to authorities for 
necessary actions related to facilities,schemes,concessions,modification in 
curriculum and legal examinations of Persons with Disabilities.

The University Authorities violating the provisions of The Persons with 
Disabilities(Equal Opportunities,Protection of Rights and Full Participation) 
Act,1995.

The universities are not implementing the legal provisions by law,which were 
already implemented in India.
All Universities should take following necessary action for the benefit of 
Persons with Disabilities specially Visually Impaired:-

1)The universities should follow the provisions of 'CHAPTER V EDUCATION' of The 
Persons with Disabilities(Equal Opportunities,Protection of Rights and Full 
Participation) Act,1995,which are given below:

Section 27(f) provides Providing every child with disability free of cost 
special books and equipments needed for his education.

Section 30(b) provides The removal of architectural barriers from 
schools,colleges or other institution,imparting vocational and professional 
training.

Section 30(c) provides The supply of books,uniforms and other materials to 
children with disabilities attending school.

Section 30(d) provides The grant of scholarship to students with disabilities.

Section 30(e) provides Setting up of appropriate fora for the redressal of 
grievances of parent,regarding the placement of their children with 
disabilities.

Section 30(f) provides Suitable modification in the examination system to 
eliminate purely mathematical questions for the benefit of blind students and 
students with low vision.

Section 30(g) provides Restructuring of curriculum for the benefit of children 
with disabilities.

Section 30(h) provides restructuring the curriculum for benefit of students 
with hearing impairment to facilitate them to take only one language as part of 
their curriculum.

Section 31 provides Educational institutions to provide amanuensis to students 
with Visual handicaps:
All educational institutions shall provide or cause to be provided amanuensis 
to blind students and students with or low vision.
•Amanuensis means:
॰a person who writes down what another says.
॰One who write the examination for visually impaired.
॰One who write another dictates.
॰A person whose employment is to write what another dictates or to copy what 
another has written.

2)The Universities should constitute the Department of Educational Empowerment 
of Persons with Disabilities(EEPD).
All disability related procedures and matters should be forwarded to this 
department for necessary actions.

3)The University should also constitute An Educational Empowerment and Advisory 
Committee on Persons with Disabilities(EEACPD) for understanding the 
implementation,inspection and analysis of laws,rules and regulations made by 
Central and State Governments.

4)The study material,question papers should be provided in a accessible format.

5)The Universities should gives an alternative question paper for Visually 
Impaired  instead of visual input questions like diagramatic,graphical and map 
based questions.The candidate should be given alternative text based non-visual 
questions instead of visual input based questions.
A facility for the request to the same(non visual alternative questions) needs 
to be provided at the time of filling up the examination form/course 
registration form.
The candidate will have the freedom to opt for the visual questions,if they so 
choose.
The said preference will be recorded in the appropriate form.

6)If the special alternative question paper is not provided,the Visually 
Impaired Candidates should exempted from drawing diagram,graphs,maps etc. in 
University level as well as College level exam and gives equal marks to that 
visual input i.e.diagrams,graphs and maps based questions.

7)There should be any indicative mark/writing PwD category details in a 
column/special sticker/barcode on the answer sheets of PwD students for the 
evaluation of special answer sheets for evaluator and moderator.

8)The Compensatory time of 20 minutes per hour should be granted in theory as 
well as practical examinations for making use of scribe/reader/lab assistant.
All the candidates with disabilities not availing the facility of 
scribe/laboratory assistant/reader will also be allowed the compensatory time 
of 20 minutes per hour.

9)For practical examination,the candidate should be permitted to use a 
Laboratory Assistant to make observational recordings and conducting 
practicals,wherever required.
The qualification rule of the Laboratory Assistant will be same as that of 
scribe.
Visually Impaired students should allowed to use a word processor program to 
type his/her Journals and then print outs can be either filed as a Journal or 
they can be pasted in a regular Journal.
In absence of computer facility,the student will be allowed a use of assistant 
to write the journal.No criteria 

[AI] Important Issue Grace marks for Passing

[GANDIGUDE SANTOSH SANJAY]

Many universities of India like S.R.T.M. University does not gives additional 
10 grace marks to Visually Impaired for Passing the final examination .
When I approach to University,they are saying that there is no provisions.
But Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary 
Education(MSBSHSE) give an additional 20 grace marks to passing final 
examination for Visually Impaired Student.
Please provide details of fees exemptions,grace 
marks,sticker/Barcode/indication of category on answer sheets of Visually 
Impaired in other universities of India,
What can I do?
Please suggest me. 


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again

[sanjay]

No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using computers 
by a  speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)


- Original Message - 
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
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Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again



I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.

If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.


On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these 
with


asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned
about the needs of the visually impaired.
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To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
option is available in nvda.

On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.

On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in 
jaws

we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
result.
but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and 
advancing

web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
impressed
with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh
and
Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user
base.
A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
transitioned
myself.
The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
being
that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily 
available

and whose crack is widely distributed.
I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather 
uncomfortable

to
work with.
Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven 
open

source accessibility related projects!
Ekinath Sir,
Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
bug
report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
someone in this thread itself, I believe.
Thanks.

On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
specify
the
purpose for said donation.
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From: AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] BCA Examination: Accessibility issues

[sanjay]

Of course, arts students can do BCA from IGNOU.  As a prerequisition they 
have to complete two certificate courses from IGNOU itself.


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concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] BCA Examination: Accessibility issues



I will say yes. Arts student can also be opt for BCA. Though low level
computer subject and mathematics is bit challenging.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Vidhya Y
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:40 PM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] BCA Examination: Accessibility issues

I would explain diagrams to my scribe to draw. for few questions if
its not possible, atleast explain it theoritically. after 12th, I
don't think bca is possible for arts students as math/ computer
science is bit challenging  for them. (not sure), in most of the
colleges in bangalore, arts students are not allowed to take bca.

On 4/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

Can a arts student do BCA after twelth?
Asking for a student of mine.


With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur

Phone: 0712 2806358

A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
Laughter

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Behalf

Of raaju
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 3:51 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] BCA Examination: Accessibility issues

Frankly admitting, for the graphic representation I mostly use to prepare

to

my scribe.

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Behalf

Of Ajeesh Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:44 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] BCA Examination: Accessibility issues

Hi all,
Writing for my Friend, Sooraj. Last BCA Final SEM Exam he faced number of
Graphic oriented questions, due to accessibility challenges, he forced to
quit these questions.
Is there any protocols to make the Educational documents accessible for
every one?
Now, is there any chance to claim the mark for these?
If so, To whom  we should approach? from where we could collect the
supportive Gov. Circulars?
Kindly put some light on this matter,
Expect help from all of you.



--
 Have a fantastic day ahead

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Accessibility Test Engineer,
IBM India, Banglore,
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Special education paper compulsory in BEd, MEd from upcoming academic session

[sanjay]

I think in this context, special education means special teaching techniques 
which can be adopted while teaching the children with special needs - blind, 
deaf, mentally retarded etc.


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From: Dhananjay Bhole dhananjay.bh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: disability-studies-india disability-studies-in...@googlegroups.com; 
jnuvision jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Special education paper compulsory in BEd, MEd from 
upcoming academic session




Dear all,

I couldn't understand why government is focusing on special education.
We need to work on inclusive education and create inclusive
environment in the premises of academic institutions. UGC had also
continued teacher preparation for special education  (TPSE) scheme
since IXth 5 year  education plan. We need inclusive set up than
special education. That will actually be helpful in mainstreaming
persons with disabilities. I totally agree with Dr. Kalpana madam and
apriciate initiative taken by Mumbai university for introducing
inclusive classroom.
We should inform them that they should make compulsory inclusive
education course in B.Ed. and M.Ed. programs. They should not use
word special education. Special schools will be closed soon.

Regards

On 4/14/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:

So any say?
We had special education introduced through IEDS then in Sarva Shiksha
Abhiyan in haste and the outcome? anyway, its a good move,isn't it?
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150414/jsp/nation/story_14479.jsp#.VSzD3VS6bIU

BASANT KUMAR MOHANTY

New Delhi, April 13: The National Council for Teacher Education has
introduced a compulsory paper on how to teach children with special
needs in its revised BEd and MEd syllabi.

The decision followed a countrywide survey last year that showed that
nearly six lakh physically or mentally challenged children between six
and 13 didn't go to school.

The NCTE last week signed an agreement with the Rehabilitation Council
of India (RCI), which has been regulating courses on special
education, to help prepare the curriculum and modules for the
compulsory paper that would be part of the general BEd and MEd
courses.





















The BEd and MEd courses did not have any compulsory paper on how to
teach special children. This year we have incorporated four compulsory
papers and one of them is on special education, NCTE chairperson
Santosh Panda told The Telegraph.

While the NCTE regulates general BEd and MEd courses, the RCI is the
controlling authority for courses on teaching people with
disabilities.

Panda said the RCI has agreed to increase the duration of BEd and MEd
courses on special education from one year to two years from the
2015-16 academic session starting in July-August to align with the
NCTE pattern. In January this year, the NCTE had decided to switch to
a two-year format.

The RCI has also agreed to train at least one teacher from all the
17,000 BEd and MEd colleges across the country in special education.

According to the National Sample Survey of Estimation - conducted by
the NGO Social and Rural Research Institute in collaboration with the
PSU Educational Consultants India Ltd in 2014 - some 60.41 lakh
children in the 6-13 age group didn't go to school. Among them, nearly
six lakh were physically or mentally challenged.

Professor Vinita Kaul, of the education department at Ambedkar
University, said teachers need special skills to deal with children
with special needs. The NCTE, she added, must make sure that all BEd
and MEd colleges engage at least one teacher with expertise on special
education so that teacher trainers get proper guidance in the subject.

The NCTE and the RCI have set up a committee under Professor N.K.
Jangira, of the National Council of Educational Research and Training
(NCERT), to draw up the two-year special education curricula. The
committee will also suggest the curriculum for the special education
papers in the general BEd and MEd streams.

Lawyer Ashok Agrawal - who had earlier filed a case against schools
for not implementing Right to Education rules that provide for
inclusive education to students across all categories - said the
situation was changing gradually.

Private schools in Delhi have engaged teachers trained in special
education, he said. But the picture is grim in other states.

The other compulsory papers the NCTE has introduced are on yoga,
information and communications technology and gender studies.



--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Query regarding Kindle/E-book Reader

[sanjay]

what is the cost of speech enabled kindle?

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Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:28 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Query regarding Kindle/E-book Reader



Kindle supports all document files  - Doc, pdf, Mobi, TXT, EPub etc.
So any book on your PC, can be transferred to Kindle.
No need to purchase Kindle books. Of course, they are a bit costlier.
Many sighted students are using Kindle these days and reading ncert books,
sample papers etc on Kindle.
But the version which most of these students use, does not have any speech
support.
Recently, I bought Kindle white in around ten thousand rupees for my
daughter.
It has internet WI FI support, Online dictionary, a bit of editing 
options,

book marks etc. but there is no speech support.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:29 AM
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the disabled.'; accessin...@accessindia.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding Kindle/E-book Reader

If you buy one of the Kindle Fire tablets, it comes with a built-in screen
reader. it is a very good screen reader too. Alternatively, if you have an
iPhone/iPad or an Android device, you can download the Kindle app and get
access to the same books on your preferred device using either VoiceOver 
or
Talkback as per your device preference. If you do have one of these 
devices
already, I would try the Kindle app first before investing in a Kindle 
Fire

device.

It is true that Kindle has millions of books but you need to remember that
they are not free. I have seen users in India complain that they don't 
have

access to all the books and the prices are bit on the higher side.

Regards,
Kiran
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Behalf

Of kailas amolik
Sent: 02 April 2015 06:27
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; accessin...@accessindia.in
Subject: [AI] Query regarding Kindle/E-book Reader

Dear All,

It would be appreciated if you could share your experiences/learning about
Kindle-E-book Reader. Heard information is that it gives access to 
millions

of books. Are there friends who have been using it probably who are in to
academics?

Do we have to install JAWS/NVDA as the case maybe, or does it have 
in-built

audio reader exist? Please respond.

Thanks

Kailas

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