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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Andrew Raibeck]

Dmitry, I am glad that worked for you. Thanks for letting me know.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Dmitry Dukhov 

Date: Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 05:02
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
WOW!!! It’s works
Your kung fu is the best
Dmitry

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 01:48, Andrew Raibeck  wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> I was able to get the web client to install and run on Ubuntu 20.4 and Debian 
> 12.5. I will share my crude notes here. However, because we do not formally 
> support the web client on either platform, please be aware that the 
> information is provided “as is”, without any warranty or support. If you run 
> into a problem and want help from IBM Support, you should first reproduce it 
> on a system where we support the web client.
>
> Here are my notes:
>
> 1. Install GSKit, API, and Backup-Archive Clients.
>
>  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86_DEB.tar" package.
>  - Unpack the tar file.
>
>  Example using 8.1.22.0 code:
>
>sudo dpkg -i gskcrypt64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i gskssl64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i tivsm-api64.amd64.deb
>(optional) dpkg -i tivsm-apicit.amd64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i tivsm-ba.amd64.deb
>(optional) sudo dpkg -i tivsm-bacit.amd64.deb
>
> 2. Install alien if not already available:
>
>  sudo apt install alien
>
> 3. Use alien to convert the Web Client GUI package:
>
>  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86.tar" package
>  - After unpacking the tar file, run this command:
>
>sudo alien --to-deb -c TIVsm-WEBGUI.x86_64.rpm
>
>Note: I ignored the NOKEY warning messages about the WEBGUI package.
>Note: The command takes several minutes to run, so be patient. On my system
>  it took a long time, maybe 15 - 20 minutes.
>
>The result is a file named "tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb".
>
>IMPORTANT: Do not install the webgui package yet.
>
> 4. Create user tdpvmware by running these commands:
>
>  sudo groupadd tdpvmware
>  sudo useradd tdpvmware -c tdpvmware -m -g tdpvmware
>
>  Note: A directory named /home/tdpvmware is created.
>  Note: Command "getent passwd tdpvmware" displays output like this:
>
>tdpvmware:x:1001:1001:tdpvmware:/home/tdpvmware:/bin/sh
>
> 5. Run the following command to install the tivsm-webgui package:
>
>  sudo dpkg -i tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb
>
> 6. Configure the backup-archive client dsm.sys and dsm.opt files. I do not go
> into details here because the process should be familiar. Some high-level 
> notes:
>
>  - In dsm.sys, add this line:
>
>  managedservices webclient
>
>OR if you also configure the scheduler:
>
>  managedservices webclient schedule
>
> 7. Use these commands to start the client acceptor daemon and the Web Client
> webserver processes:
>
>  - Ubuntu:
>
>service dsmcad start
>service webserver start
>
>  - Debian (I have not figured out how to configure it for systemd):
>
>Note: Before starting the CAD, edit rc.dsmcad and change this line
>  from this:
>
>
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic
>
>  to this:
>
>
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64:/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic
>
>cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
>./rc.dsmcad start
>cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/scripts
>./webserver start
>
> 8. The web server takes a few moments to initialize. Once initialized, point
> your browser to:
>
>https://:9081/bagui
>
> Miscellaneous notes:
>
>  - Before I could run the client, I had to configure LD_LIBRARY_PATH:
>
>export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64
>
>  - On Debian, the dsmcad and webserver services did not start for me, as
>indicated earlier. I have not yet figured out how to integrate them with
>systemd.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Raibeck
> IBM Storage Protect Level 3
> stor...@us.ibm.com
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
> Raibeck 
> Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 12:35
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> It is a fair question, but I am afraid I do not have a very satisfactory 
> answer. My best guess:
>
>  * It is not as simple as “make one package and then install and run on all 
> distros”. Rather, each distro has certain considerations and costs for build, 
> package, test, etc.
>
>  * Supported platforms were based on those distros that product management 
> and product architects felt were most used in enterprise environments (RHEL 
> and SLES).
>
> You can submit an idea (“request for enhancement’) starting here: 
> https://www.ibm.com/ideas. There is no guarantee that your idea will be 
> implemented. However, it is a formal method for you to 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Dmitry Dukhov]

WOW!!! It’s works
Your kung fu is the best
Dmitry

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 01:48, Andrew Raibeck  wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I was able to get the web client to install and run on Ubuntu 20.4 and Debian 
> 12.5. I will share my crude notes here. However, because we do not formally 
> support the web client on either platform, please be aware that the 
> information is provided “as is”, without any warranty or support. If you run 
> into a problem and want help from IBM Support, you should first reproduce it 
> on a system where we support the web client.
> 
> Here are my notes:
> 
> 1. Install GSKit, API, and Backup-Archive Clients.
> 
>  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86_DEB.tar" package.
>  - Unpack the tar file.
> 
>  Example using 8.1.22.0 code:
> 
>sudo dpkg -i gskcrypt64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i gskssl64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i tivsm-api64.amd64.deb
>(optional) dpkg -i tivsm-apicit.amd64.deb
>sudo dpkg -i tivsm-ba.amd64.deb
>(optional) sudo dpkg -i tivsm-bacit.amd64.deb
> 
> 2. Install alien if not already available:
> 
>  sudo apt install alien
> 
> 3. Use alien to convert the Web Client GUI package:
> 
>  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86.tar" package
>  - After unpacking the tar file, run this command:
> 
>sudo alien --to-deb -c TIVsm-WEBGUI.x86_64.rpm
> 
>Note: I ignored the NOKEY warning messages about the WEBGUI package.
>Note: The command takes several minutes to run, so be patient. On my system
>  it took a long time, maybe 15 - 20 minutes.
> 
>The result is a file named "tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb".
> 
>IMPORTANT: Do not install the webgui package yet.
> 
> 4. Create user tdpvmware by running these commands:
> 
>  sudo groupadd tdpvmware
>  sudo useradd tdpvmware -c tdpvmware -m -g tdpvmware
> 
>  Note: A directory named /home/tdpvmware is created.
>  Note: Command "getent passwd tdpvmware" displays output like this:
> 
>tdpvmware:x:1001:1001:tdpvmware:/home/tdpvmware:/bin/sh
> 
> 5. Run the following command to install the tivsm-webgui package:
> 
>  sudo dpkg -i tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb
> 
> 6. Configure the backup-archive client dsm.sys and dsm.opt files. I do not go
> into details here because the process should be familiar. Some high-level 
> notes:
> 
>  - In dsm.sys, add this line:
> 
>  managedservices webclient
> 
>OR if you also configure the scheduler:
> 
>  managedservices webclient schedule
> 
> 7. Use these commands to start the client acceptor daemon and the Web Client
> webserver processes:
> 
>  - Ubuntu:
> 
>service dsmcad start
>service webserver start
> 
>  - Debian (I have not figured out how to configure it for systemd):
> 
>Note: Before starting the CAD, edit rc.dsmcad and change this line
>  from this:
> 
>
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic
> 
>  to this:
> 
>
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64:/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic
> 
>cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
>./rc.dsmcad start
>cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/scripts
>./webserver start
> 
> 8. The web server takes a few moments to initialize. Once initialized, point
> your browser to:
> 
>https://:9081/bagui
> 
> Miscellaneous notes:
> 
>  - Before I could run the client, I had to configure LD_LIBRARY_PATH:
> 
>export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64
> 
>  - On Debian, the dsmcad and webserver services did not start for me, as
>indicated earlier. I have not yet figured out how to integrate them with
>systemd.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Raibeck
> IBM Storage Protect Level 3
> stor...@us.ibm.com
> 
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
> Raibeck 
> Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 12:35
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> It is a fair question, but I am afraid I do not have a very satisfactory 
> answer. My best guess:
> 
>  * It is not as simple as “make one package and then install and run on all 
> distros”. Rather, each distro has certain considerations and costs for build, 
> package, test, etc.
> 
>  * Supported platforms were based on those distros that product management 
> and product architects felt were most used in enterprise environments (RHEL 
> and SLES).
> 
> You can submit an idea (“request for enhancement’) starting here: 
> https://www.ibm.com/ideas. There is no guarantee that your idea will be 
> implemented. However, it is a formal method for you to submit such a request. 
> You can search existing ideas to see if your request is already known, or you 
> can create a new idea. Others can also vote on the idea.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Raibeck
> IBM Storage Protect Level 3
> stor...@us.ibm.com
> 
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi again,

I was able to get the web client to install and run on Ubuntu 20.4 and Debian 
12.5. I will share my crude notes here. However, because we do not formally 
support the web client on either platform, please be aware that the information 
is provided “as is”, without any warranty or support. If you run into a problem 
and want help from IBM Support, you should first reproduce it on a system where 
we support the web client.

Here are my notes:

1. Install GSKit, API, and Backup-Archive Clients.

  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86_DEB.tar" package.
  - Unpack the tar file.

  Example using 8.1.22.0 code:

sudo dpkg -i gskcrypt64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
sudo dpkg -i gskssl64_8.0-55.31.linux.x86_64.deb
sudo dpkg -i tivsm-api64.amd64.deb
(optional) dpkg -i tivsm-apicit.amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i tivsm-ba.amd64.deb
(optional) sudo dpkg -i tivsm-bacit.amd64.deb

2. Install alien if not already available:

  sudo apt install alien

3. Use alien to convert the Web Client GUI package:

  - Use the "-TIV-TSMBAC-LinuxX86.tar" package
  - After unpacking the tar file, run this command:

sudo alien --to-deb -c TIVsm-WEBGUI.x86_64.rpm

Note: I ignored the NOKEY warning messages about the WEBGUI package.
Note: The command takes several minutes to run, so be patient. On my system
  it took a long time, maybe 15 - 20 minutes.

The result is a file named "tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb".

IMPORTANT: Do not install the webgui package yet.

4. Create user tdpvmware by running these commands:

  sudo groupadd tdpvmware
  sudo useradd tdpvmware -c tdpvmware -m -g tdpvmware

  Note: A directory named /home/tdpvmware is created.
  Note: Command "getent passwd tdpvmware" displays output like this:

tdpvmware:x:1001:1001:tdpvmware:/home/tdpvmware:/bin/sh

5. Run the following command to install the tivsm-webgui package:

  sudo dpkg -i tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.deb

6. Configure the backup-archive client dsm.sys and dsm.opt files. I do not go
into details here because the process should be familiar. Some high-level notes:

  - In dsm.sys, add this line:

  managedservices webclient

OR if you also configure the scheduler:

  managedservices webclient schedule

7. Use these commands to start the client acceptor daemon and the Web Client
webserver processes:

  - Ubuntu:

service dsmcad start
service webserver start

  - Debian (I have not figured out how to configure it for systemd):

Note: Before starting the CAD, edit rc.dsmcad and change this line
  from this:


LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic

  to this:


LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64:/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin:/opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/jre/jre/bin/classic

cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin
./rc.dsmcad start
cd /opt/tivoli/tsm/tdpvmware/common/scripts
./webserver start

8. The web server takes a few moments to initialize. Once initialized, point
your browser to:

https://:9081/bagui

Miscellaneous notes:

  - Before I could run the client, I had to configure LD_LIBRARY_PATH:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/ibm/gsk8_64/lib64

  - On Debian, the dsmcad and webserver services did not start for me, as
indicated earlier. I have not yet figured out how to integrate them with
systemd.

Good luck!

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
Raibeck 
Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 12:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
Hi Dmitry,

It is a fair question, but I am afraid I do not have a very satisfactory 
answer. My best guess:

  * It is not as simple as “make one package and then install and run on all 
distros”. Rather, each distro has certain considerations and costs for build, 
package, test, etc.

  * Supported platforms were based on those distros that product management and 
product architects felt were most used in enterprise environments (RHEL and 
SLES).

You can submit an idea (“request for enhancement’) starting here: 
https://www.ibm.com/ideas. There is no guarantee that your idea will be 
implemented. However, it is a formal method for you to submit such a request. 
You can search existing ideas to see if your request is already known, or you 
can create a new idea. Others can also vote on the idea.

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Dmitry Dukhov 

Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 12:01
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
Thank you Andrew for clear answer

Maybe I say a stupid but Why is web-client not supported for debian?
RHEL SLES Ubuntu and etc  = magic world of Linux
web client is a java application and should work 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Dmitry,

It is a fair question, but I am afraid I do not have a very satisfactory 
answer. My best guess:

  * It is not as simple as “make one package and then install and run on all 
distros”. Rather, each distro has certain considerations and costs for build, 
package, test, etc.

  * Supported platforms were based on those distros that product management and 
product architects felt were most used in enterprise environments (RHEL and 
SLES).

You can submit an idea (“request for enhancement’) starting here: 
https://www.ibm.com/ideas. There is no guarantee that your idea will be 
implemented. However, it is a formal method for you to submit such a request. 
You can search existing ideas to see if your request is already known, or you 
can create a new idea. Others can also vote on the idea.

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Dmitry Dukhov 

Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 12:01
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
Thank you Andrew for clear answer

Maybe I say a stupid but Why is web-client not supported for debian?
RHEL SLES Ubuntu and etc  = magic world of Linux
web client is a java application and should work everywhere!
Dmitry

> On 12 Apr 2024, at 18:51, Andrew Raibeck  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> To the original question:
>
> * Debian support is limited, as documented in 
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/397693. The web client is not 
> supported on Debian.
>
> * The Web Client is not supported on Ubuntu.
>
> To the issue with Web Client on Windows and 8.1.19 server: if you are unable 
> to get it to work, then I recommend opening a ticket with IBM Support.
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Raibeck
> IBM Storage Protect Level 3
> stor...@us.ibm.com
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of David L.A. 
> De Leeuw 
> Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 06:47
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
> It used to work here as well, but stopped working when the SERVER was 
> upgraded.
> So, if you keep running an old server, you can install Ubuntu WebGui as well, 
> but this is probably not recommended.
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry 
> Dukhov
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 12:27 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>
> David,I’m confused.  I have already installed last client 8.1.22 for windows 
> and web client works well Perhaps this means the old Java web client.
>
>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 19:45, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>>
>> Dimitri,
>> Webgui is no longer supported.
>> Read:
>>
>>
>> "IBM Storage Protect"
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhttp=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=uGgVlnIa0NDiMCg5M20qSGDfm5-5H67FIAJ_CmwtPmY=
>> s%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic
>> %3dcspc%2dconfiguring%2dstorage%2dprotect%2dclientserver%2dcommunicati
>> on%2dsecure%2dsockets%2dlayer%23%3a%7e%3atext%3dConfiguring%2d%2cIBM%2
>> c%2dStorage%2520Protect%2520client=3CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB09
>> 52541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-7bbe0beb5e500bacf
>> 6157050015cf3671950bd26
>>
>> I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...
>>
>> David
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>> Dmitry Dukhov
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>
>> No no no
>> these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>>>
>>> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhtt=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=enshRp7B6mMqwIRsVixYBXjeuiQHOq6PmgzpTPblGpo=
>>> ps%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftop
>>> ic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=3
>>> CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB0952541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be25
>>> 2082d875f1cf-e64172d1746ecfdc7f0e261ef6f188ff12bb03c6
>>>
>>> Success
>>>
>>> David de Leeuw
>>> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
>>> Beer Sheva
>>> Israel
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>>> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>>
>>> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
>>> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Dmitry Dukhov]

Thank you Andrew for clear answer

Maybe I say a stupid but Why is web-client not supported for debian?
RHEL SLES Ubuntu and etc  = magic world of Linux
web client is a java application and should work everywhere!
Dmitry

> On 12 Apr 2024, at 18:51, Andrew Raibeck  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> To the original question:
> 
> * Debian support is limited, as documented in 
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/397693. The web client is not 
> supported on Debian.
> 
> * The Web Client is not supported on Ubuntu.
> 
> To the issue with Web Client on Windows and 8.1.19 server: if you are unable 
> to get it to work, then I recommend opening a ticket with IBM Support.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Raibeck
> IBM Storage Protect Level 3
> stor...@us.ibm.com
> 
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of David L.A. 
> De Leeuw 
> Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 06:47
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
> It used to work here as well, but stopped working when the SERVER was 
> upgraded.
> So, if you keep running an old server, you can install Ubuntu WebGui as well, 
> but this is probably not recommended.
> David
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry 
> Dukhov
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 12:27 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> David,I’m confused.  I have already installed last client 8.1.22 for windows 
> and web client works well Perhaps this means the old Java web client.
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 19:45, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>> 
>> Dimitri,
>> Webgui is no longer supported.
>> Read:
>> 
>> 
>> "IBM Storage Protect"
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhttp=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=uGgVlnIa0NDiMCg5M20qSGDfm5-5H67FIAJ_CmwtPmY=
>> s%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic
>> %3dcspc%2dconfiguring%2dstorage%2dprotect%2dclientserver%2dcommunicati
>> on%2dsecure%2dsockets%2dlayer%23%3a%7e%3atext%3dConfiguring%2d%2cIBM%2
>> c%2dStorage%2520Protect%2520client=3CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB09
>> 52541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-7bbe0beb5e500bacf
>> 6157050015cf3671950bd26
>> 
>> I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>> Dmitry Dukhov
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>> 
>> No no no
>> these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
>>> 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhtt=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=enshRp7B6mMqwIRsVixYBXjeuiQHOq6PmgzpTPblGpo=
>>> ps%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftop
>>> ic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=3
>>> CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB0952541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be25
>>> 2082d875f1cf-e64172d1746ecfdc7f0e261ef6f188ff12bb03c6
>>> 
>>> Success
>>> 
>>> David de Leeuw
>>> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
>>> Beer Sheva
>>> Israel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>>> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>> 
>>> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
>>> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
>>> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
>>> the needed livraries.
>>> 
>>> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
>>> 
>>> Good luck
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Maurizio
>>> 
>>>  Messaggio originale 
>>> Da : dem...@gmail.com
>>> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
>>> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> 
>>> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not 
>>>  for Debian.
>>> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
>>> p.s
>>> using the alien converts didn't help me
>>> 
>>> Dmitry Dukhov
>> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi all,

To the original question:

* Debian support is limited, as documented in 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/397693. The web client is not supported 
on Debian.

* The Web Client is not supported on Ubuntu.

To the issue with Web Client on Windows and 8.1.19 server: if you are unable to 
get it to work, then I recommend opening a ticket with IBM Support.

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of David L.A. De 
Leeuw 
Date: Friday, April 12, 2024 at 06:47
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Debian and web client
It used to work here as well, but stopped working when the SERVER was upgraded.
So, if you keep running an old server, you can install Ubuntu WebGui as well, 
but this is probably not recommended.
David


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry Dukhov
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 12:27 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

David,I’m confused.  I have already installed last client 8.1.22 for windows 
and web client works well Perhaps this means the old Java web client.

> On 11 Apr 2024, at 19:45, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>
> Dimitri,
> Webgui is no longer supported.
> Read:
>
>
> "IBM Storage Protect"
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhttp=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=uGgVlnIa0NDiMCg5M20qSGDfm5-5H67FIAJ_CmwtPmY=
> s%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic
> %3dcspc%2dconfiguring%2dstorage%2dprotect%2dclientserver%2dcommunicati
> on%2dsecure%2dsockets%2dlayer%23%3a%7e%3atext%3dConfiguring%2d%2cIBM%2
> c%2dStorage%2520Protect%2520client=3CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB09
> 52541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-7bbe0beb5e500bacf
> 6157050015cf3671950bd26
>
> I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...
>
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
> Dmitry Dukhov
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>
> No no no
> these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64.
>
>
>
>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>>
>> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imsva91-2Dctp.trendmicro.com-3A443_wis_clicktime_v1_query-3Furl-3Dhtt=DwIGaQ=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ=fL7R_v_DhXetFL2YsIet1QXoJUfVxVU9ppvrJOh1Bj4=NBm161-A8vhyn2hjYucFOUBym3Q1h78xB5XKF-NOY-4BbKq1M7UxOqwTM1NMD24E=enshRp7B6mMqwIRsVixYBXjeuiQHOq6PmgzpTPblGpo=
>> ps%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftop
>> ic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=3
>> CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB0952541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be25
>> 2082d875f1cf-e64172d1746ecfdc7f0e261ef6f188ff12bb03c6
>>
>> Success
>>
>> David de Leeuw
>> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
>> Beer Sheva
>> Israel
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>
>> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
>> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
>> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
>> the needed livraries.
>>
>> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Ciao
>> Maurizio
>>
>>  Messaggio originale 
>> Da : dem...@gmail.com
>> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
>> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
>> for Debian.
>> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
>> p.s
>> using the alien converts didn't help me
>>
>> Dmitry Dukhov
>

Re: Debian and web client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

It used to work here as well, but stopped working when the SERVER was upgraded.
So, if you keep running an old server, you can install Ubuntu WebGui as well, 
but this is probably not recommended.
David


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry Dukhov
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 12:27 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

David,I’m confused.  I have already installed last client 8.1.22 for windows 
and web client works well Perhaps this means the old Java web client.

> On 11 Apr 2024, at 19:45, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> Dimitri,
> Webgui is no longer supported.
> Read:
> 
> 
> "IBM Storage Protect"
> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http
> s%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic
> %3dcspc%2dconfiguring%2dstorage%2dprotect%2dclientserver%2dcommunicati
> on%2dsecure%2dsockets%2dlayer%23%3a%7e%3atext%3dConfiguring%2d%2cIBM%2
> c%2dStorage%2520Protect%2520client=3CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB09
> 52541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-7bbe0beb5e500bacf
> 6157050015cf3671950bd26
> 
> I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> Dmitry Dukhov
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> No no no
> these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>> 
>> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
>> 
>> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=htt
>> ps%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftop
>> ic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=3
>> CD08F73-15E2-E406-846F-25CB0952541F=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be25
>> 2082d875f1cf-e64172d1746ecfdc7f0e261ef6f188ff12bb03c6
>> 
>> Success
>> 
>> David de Leeuw
>> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
>> Beer Sheva
>> Israel
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
>> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>> 
>> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
>> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
>> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
>> the needed livraries.
>> 
>> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Ciao
>> Maurizio
>> 
>>  Messaggio originale 
>> Da : dem...@gmail.com
>> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
>> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
>> for Debian.
>> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
>> p.s
>> using the alien converts didn't help me
>> 
>> Dmitry Dukhov
> 

Re: Debian and web client

[Dmitry Dukhov]

David,I’m confused.  I have already installed last client 8.1.22 for windows 
and web client works well
Perhaps this means the old Java web client.

> On 11 Apr 2024, at 19:45, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> Dimitri,
> Webgui is no longer supported.
> Read:
> 
> 
> "IBM Storage Protect"
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.22?topic=cspc-configuring-storage-protect-clientserver-communication-secure-sockets-layer#:~:text=Configuring-,IBM,-Storage%20Protect%20client
> 
> I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry 
> Dukhov
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> No no no
> these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>> 
>> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
>> 
>> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=2D987E73-15D3-7306-95A8-5242B6655B09=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-55d6b3e667affebbe23d1b5c79c2b0825fe07b52
>> 
>> Success
>> 
>> David de Leeuw
>> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
>> Beer Sheva
>> Israel
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
>> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>> 
>> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
>> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
>> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
>> the needed livraries.
>> 
>> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Ciao
>> Maurizio
>> 
>>  Messaggio originale 
>> Da : dem...@gmail.com
>> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
>> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
>> for Debian.
>> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
>> p.s
>> using the alien converts didn't help me
>> 
>> Dmitry Dukhov
> 

Re: Debian and web client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Dimitri,
Webgui is no longer supported.
Read:


"IBM Storage Protect"
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.22?topic=cspc-configuring-storage-protect-clientserver-communication-secure-sockets-layer#:~:text=Configuring-,IBM,-Storage%20Protect%20client

I tried on windows, installed fine, but not work withour 8.1.19 server...

David

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Dmitry Dukhov
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:02 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

No no no
these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64. 



> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
> 
> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.ibm.com%2fdocs%2fen%2fstorage%2dprotect%2f8.1.22%3ftopic%3dclients%2dinstalling%2dubuntu%2dlinux%2dx86%2d64%2dclient=2D987E73-15D3-7306-95A8-5242B6655B09=701951cf8dfb7cd99762e0f5be252082d875f1cf-55d6b3e667affebbe23d1b5c79c2b0825fe07b52
> 
> Success
> 
> David de Leeuw
> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva
> Israel
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
> the needed livraries.
> 
> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Ciao
> Maurizio
> 
>  Messaggio originale 
> Da : dem...@gmail.com
> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
> for Debian.
> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
> p.s
> using the alien converts didn't help me
> 
> Dmitry Dukhov

Re: Debian and web client

[Dmitry Dukhov]

No no no
these are standard deb packages without   tivsm-webgui_8.1.22-1_amd64. 



> On 11 Apr 2024, at 17:57, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.
> 
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.22?topic=clients-installing-ubuntu-linux-x86-64-client
> 
> Success
> 
> David de Leeuw
> Ben Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva
> Israel
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't 
> remember exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, 
> ...) because some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get 
> the needed livraries.
> 
> I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Ciao
> Maurizio
> 
>  Messaggio originale 
> Da : dem...@gmail.com
> Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
> A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
> for Debian.
> How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
> p.s
> using the alien converts didn't help me
> 
> Dmitry Dukhov

Re: Debian and web client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

The instructions are on the Spectrum Protect website.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.22?topic=clients-installing-ubuntu-linux-x86-64-client

Success

David de Leeuw
Ben Gurion University of the Negev
Beer Sheva
Israel


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:56 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't remember 
exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, ...) because 
some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get the needed 
livraries.

I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .

Good luck

Ciao
Maurizio

 Messaggio originale 
Da : dem...@gmail.com
Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

Hi everyone

I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
for Debian.
How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
p.s
using the alien converts didn't help me

Dmitry Dukhov

Re: Debian and web client

[maurizio.teru...@bluewin.ch]

HEllo, few years ago I made this operation on client tsm v7.x, I don't remember 
exactly but I had to resolve some kernel module dependency (lsmod, ...) because 
some was not linked on the current path I used softlink to get the needed 
livraries.

I doesn't help to much but maybe a new Idea :) .

Good luck

Ciao
Maurizio

 Messaggio originale 
Da : dem...@gmail.com
Data : 11/04/2024 - 15:24 (CEST)
A : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto : [ADSM-L] Debian and web client

Hi everyone

I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
for Debian.
How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
p.s
using the alien converts didn't help me

Dmitry Dukhov

Debian and web client

[Dmitry Dukhov]

Hi everyone

I noticed that there is a  client package for linux with web client but not  
for Debian.
How to install web client for Debian , Ubuntu ?
p.s
using the alien converts didn't help me 

Dmitry Dukhov

Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for pointing out that doc issue. I am looking into getting that 
resolved. It is correct that the EXCLUDE (without the .DIR) and INCLUDE operate 
on file objects only, not directories.

I agree that the approach you are using is probably the easiest if the backup 
of undesired directory objects is only an annoyance. The alternative I 
mentioned might be more viable if there were a huge number, say, tens of 
thousands or more, of directories you did not want to back up, or if traversing 
the directories you did not want to back up was too time consuming.

Best regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
Date: Friday, March 8, 2024 at 09:50
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement
Hi Andy,

I have been able to get the job done through the following lines in the 
cloptset:

Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: EXCLUDE '/tech/splunk/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 105
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: INCLUDE '/tech/splunk/etc/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 106
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: INCLUDE '/tech/splunk/var/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 107
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: EXCLUDE.DIR '/tech/splunk/var/run'

This still causes the subdirectories to be backed up in /tech/splunk (except 
for /tech/splunk/var/run and everything below), but I think I can live with 
that. I was put on the wrong foot by one of the examples in the manual: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=options-examples-using-wildcards-include-exclude-patterns.
 In table 1 it states:

EXCLUDE /.../Documents/.../*
INCLUDE "/home/aleko/Documents/
  Current"

Exclude all files and directories under any Documents directory that might 
exist, except for the Current file of user aleko.

In the example above, all files are excluded, NOT the subdirectories. So, I 
guess the manual is wrong here?
Thanks for your work-around. I like the idea, but the only downside would be 
that the restore command syntax changes, which will most likely be very 
confusing for the end user.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra



From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
Raibeck 
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 13:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement


Hi Eric,

Based on your previous response to the exclude.dir suggestion, I suppose you 
have a scenario like this:

* Exclude all other files underneath /tech/splunk,
* but directory objects are still processed.
exclude /tech/splunk/.../*

* Back up everything in /tech/splunk/keep1 and /tech/splunk/keep2
include /tech/splunk/keep1/.../*
include /tech/splunk/keep2/.../*

In this case, you cannot avoid scanning and backing up all subdirectories of 
/tech/splunk.

Another alternative is to consider using the VIRTUALMOUNTPOINT 
(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=reference-virtualmountpoint)
 option in dsm.sys, like this:

...
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep1
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep2
exclude.fs /tech/splunk
...

The virtual mount points are effectively treated like separate file systems. 
The exclude.fs then prevents backup of everything in /tech/splunk that is NOT 
part of the other virtual mount points.

When using the command line client for queries and restores, you might need to 
put curly braces '{' and '}' around the file system name to avoid ambiguity in 
file specifications. For example, if you want to search for a file named 
myfile.txt, but you are not sure in which directory the file resides, then you 
will have to do this:

dsmc query {/tech/splunk/

Also, if you want to restore everything you backed up under /tech/splunk, you 
cannot do this:

dsmc restore /tech/splunk/ -subdir=yes

Instead, you need to do this:

dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep1} -subdir=yes
dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep2} -subdir=yes

I suggest trying this concept in a test environment first, to see if it is 
feasible for you.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February, 2024 08:55
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Hi Skylar,

Yes, we have a DIRMC set in the client option file. I removed it, just to check 
whether it makes any difference, but the subdirectories are still being backed 
up, with the only difference that they are bound to the longest retention 
mgmtclass ofcourse.
Thanks for your help.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Andy,

I have been able to get the job done through the following lines in the 
cloptset:

Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: EXCLUDE '/tech/splunk/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 105
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: INCLUDE '/tech/splunk/etc/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 106
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: INCLUDE '/tech/splunk/var/.../*'
  Option: INCLEXCL
 Sequence number: 107
Use Option Set Value (FORCE): No
Option Value: EXCLUDE.DIR '/tech/splunk/var/run'

This still causes the subdirectories to be backed up in /tech/splunk (except 
for /tech/splunk/var/run and everything below), but I think I can live with 
that. I was put on the wrong foot by one of the examples in the manual: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=options-examples-using-wildcards-include-exclude-patterns.
 In table 1 it states:

EXCLUDE /.../Documents/.../*
INCLUDE "/home/aleko/Documents/
  Current"

Exclude all files and directories under any Documents directory that might 
exist, except for the Current file of user aleko.

In the example above, all files are excluded, NOT the subdirectories. So, I 
guess the manual is wrong here?
Thanks for your work-around. I like the idea, but the only downside would be 
that the restore command syntax changes, which will most likely be very 
confusing for the end user.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra



From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
Raibeck 
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 13:35
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement


Hi Eric,

Based on your previous response to the exclude.dir suggestion, I suppose you 
have a scenario like this:

* Exclude all other files underneath /tech/splunk,
* but directory objects are still processed.
exclude /tech/splunk/.../*

* Back up everything in /tech/splunk/keep1 and /tech/splunk/keep2
include /tech/splunk/keep1/.../*
include /tech/splunk/keep2/.../*

In this case, you cannot avoid scanning and backing up all subdirectories of 
/tech/splunk.

Another alternative is to consider using the VIRTUALMOUNTPOINT 
(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=reference-virtualmountpoint)
 option in dsm.sys, like this:

...
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep1
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep2
exclude.fs /tech/splunk
...

The virtual mount points are effectively treated like separate file systems. 
The exclude.fs then prevents backup of everything in /tech/splunk that is NOT 
part of the other virtual mount points.

When using the command line client for queries and restores, you might need to 
put curly braces '{' and '}' around the file system name to avoid ambiguity in 
file specifications. For example, if you want to search for a file named 
myfile.txt, but you are not sure in which directory the file resides, then you 
will have to do this:

dsmc query {/tech/splunk/

Also, if you want to restore everything you backed up under /tech/splunk, you 
cannot do this:

dsmc restore /tech/splunk/ -subdir=yes

Instead, you need to do this:

dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep1} -subdir=yes
dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep2} -subdir=yes

I suggest trying this concept in a test environment first, to see if it is 
feasible for you.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February, 2024 08:55
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Hi Skylar,

Yes, we have a DIRMC set in the client option file. I removed it, just to check 
whether it makes any difference, but the subdirectories are still being backed 
up, with the only difference that they are bound to the longest retention 
mgmtclass ofcourse.
Thanks for your help.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Skylar 
Thompson 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 17:07
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think 
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being 
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../*   

Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Eric,

Based on your previous response to the exclude.dir suggestion, I suppose you 
have a scenario like this:

* Exclude all other files underneath /tech/splunk,
* but directory objects are still processed.
exclude /tech/splunk/.../*

* Back up everything in /tech/splunk/keep1 and /tech/splunk/keep2
include /tech/splunk/keep1/.../*
include /tech/splunk/keep2/.../*

In this case, you cannot avoid scanning and backing up all subdirectories of 
/tech/splunk.

Another alternative is to consider using the VIRTUALMOUNTPOINT 
(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=reference-virtualmountpoint)
 option in dsm.sys, like this:

...
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep1
virtualmountpoint /tech/splunk/keep2
exclude.fs /tech/splunk
...

The virtual mount points are effectively treated like separate file systems. 
The exclude.fs then prevents backup of everything in /tech/splunk that is NOT 
part of the other virtual mount points.

When using the command line client for queries and restores, you might need to 
put curly braces '{' and '}' around the file system name to avoid ambiguity in 
file specifications. For example, if you want to search for a file named 
myfile.txt, but you are not sure in which directory the file resides, then you 
will have to do this:

dsmc query {/tech/splunk/

Also, if you want to restore everything you backed up under /tech/splunk, you 
cannot do this:

dsmc restore /tech/splunk/ -subdir=yes

Instead, you need to do this:

dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep1} -subdir=yes
dsmc restore {/tech/splunk/keep2} -subdir=yes

I suggest trying this concept in a test environment first, to see if it is 
feasible for you.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February, 2024 08:55
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Hi Skylar,

Yes, we have a DIRMC set in the client option file. I removed it, just to check 
whether it makes any difference, but the subdirectories are still being backed 
up, with the only difference that they are bound to the longest retention 
mgmtclass ofcourse.
Thanks for your help.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Skylar 
Thompson 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 17:07
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think 
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being 
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server
>
> But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed 
> up:
>
> Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
> Successful incremental backup of '/tech'
>
> I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
> advance!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eric van Loon
>
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
> 
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Re: On-premise Cloud copy

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Julien,

Indeed quite a while ago!
Unfortunately, retention sets do not support Oracle and SAP data. The vast 
majority of our most critical data in Oracle and SAP databases...
Thanks for your help though!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Julien 
Sauvanet 
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 17:09
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: On-premise Cloud copy

Hi Eric,

I hope you are doing well - it's been a long time since last time we spoke.
One possibility I see is to leverage the Retention Set Copy to Cloud Object 
Storage ( something you can do starting SP 8.1.13+  ) . You can read more about 
here 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=sets-preparing-copy-retention-cloud-archive-storage
I'm assuming that the data you are managing are within the supported ones , 
which are  specified here 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=retention-data-types-allowed-in-sets
You will have to decide whether you want to create that retention set + copy 
from your source SP server or on your target/replica SP server . You cannot do 
retention set on both sides for the same node.

You can recover data from a retention directly from the node , without having 
to restore the entire stgpool before. You may want to look at how to properly 
configure the cloud read cache to get the best performance possible from this 
kind of setup (doc here: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=tcspv-caching-cloud-container-storage-pool-data-data-restore-performance
 )

Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss more about this setup.




Cordialement / Kind regards



Julien Sauvanet

He/Him/His

Technical Advisor IBM Storage Defender

 Phone: +33 6 76 75 43 95  |  Email: 
sauva...@fr.ibm.com |  Webex: 
https://ibm.webex.com/meet/sauvanet


Compagnie IBM France - Siège Social : 17, avenue de l'Europe, 92275 
Bois-Colombes Cedex

RCS Nanterre 552 118 465 - Forme Sociale : S.A.S. - Capital Social : 
663.779.730,90 €

SIRET : 552 118 465 03644 - Code NAF 6203Z


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 4:24 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ADSM-L] On-premise Cloud copy

Hi everybody,

We are currently using stgrule replication to replicate the data from one 
server to another. I'm looking into the option of creating a third copy; to 
comply to the 3-2-1 rule. I'd like to see if I use our onsite IBM Cloud Object 
Storage for this. As far as I could find, you can't copy stgpool data to a 
cloud container stgpool. At least the manual states that for a copy stgrule, 
the target pool needs to be a copy sequential-access storage pool. I could 
define a copy container stgpool and use the backup stgpool command to make a 
third copy. But in case of a recovery, you need to recover the whole stgpool 
first, before clients can start their restores.
Am I overlooking an easier/better solution? Thanks for any help in advance!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra

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Re: On-premise Cloud copy

[Julien Sauvanet]

Hi Eric,

I hope you are doing well - it's been a long time since last time we spoke.
One possibility I see is to leverage the Retention Set Copy to Cloud Object 
Storage ( something you can do starting SP 8.1.13+  ) . You can read more about 
here 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=sets-preparing-copy-retention-cloud-archive-storage
I'm assuming that the data you are managing are within the supported ones , 
which are  specified here 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=retention-data-types-allowed-in-sets
You will have to decide whether you want to create that retention set + copy 
from your source SP server or on your target/replica SP server . You cannot do 
retention set on both sides for the same node.

You can recover data from a retention directly from the node , without having 
to restore the entire stgpool before. You may want to look at how to properly 
configure the cloud read cache to get the best performance possible from this 
kind of setup (doc here: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-protect/8.1.21?topic=tcspv-caching-cloud-container-storage-pool-data-data-restore-performance
 )

Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss more about this setup.




Cordialement / Kind regards



Julien Sauvanet

He/Him/His

Technical Advisor IBM Storage Defender

 Phone: +33 6 76 75 43 95  |  Email: 
sauva...@fr.ibm.com |  Webex: 
https://ibm.webex.com/meet/sauvanet


Compagnie IBM France - Siège Social : 17, avenue de l'Europe, 92275 
Bois-Colombes Cedex

RCS Nanterre 552 118 465 - Forme Sociale : S.A.S. - Capital Social : 
663.779.730,90 €

SIRET : 552 118 465 03644 - Code NAF 6203Z


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 4:24 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ADSM-L] On-premise Cloud copy

Hi everybody,

We are currently using stgrule replication to replicate the data from one 
server to another. I'm looking into the option of creating a third copy; to 
comply to the 3-2-1 rule. I'd like to see if I use our onsite IBM Cloud Object 
Storage for this. As far as I could find, you can't copy stgpool data to a 
cloud container stgpool. At least the manual states that for a copy stgrule, 
the target pool needs to be a copy sequential-access storage pool. I could 
define a copy container stgpool and use the backup stgpool command to make a 
third copy. But in case of a recovery, you need to recover the whole stgpool 
first, before clients can start their restores.
Am I overlooking an easier/better solution? Thanks for any help in advance!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra

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On-premise Cloud copy

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

We are currently using stgrule replication to replicate the data from one 
server to another. I'm looking into the option of creating a third copy; to 
comply to the 3-2-1 rule. I'd like to see if I use our onsite IBM Cloud Object 
Storage for this. As far as I could find, you can't copy stgpool data to a 
cloud container stgpool. At least the manual states that for a copy stgrule, 
the target pool needs to be a copy sequential-access storage pool. I could 
define a copy container stgpool and use the backup stgpool command to make a 
third copy. But in case of a recovery, you need to recover the whole stgpool 
first, before clients can start their restores.
Am I overlooking an easier/better solution? Thanks for any help in advance!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra

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Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Skylar,

Yes, we have a DIRMC set in the client option file. I removed it, just to check 
whether it makes any difference, but the subdirectories are still being backed 
up, with the only difference that they are bound to the longest retention 
mgmtclass ofcourse.
Thanks for your help.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Skylar 
Thompson 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 17:07
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though
would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server
>
> But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed 
> up:
>
> Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
> Successful incremental backup of '/tech'
>
> I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
> advance!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eric van Loon
>
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
> 
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Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Andy,

That would be much easier, the problem is that I need to include two 
subdirectories too and an exclude.dir won't allow you to include 
subdirectories...
Thanks for your help.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Andrew 
Raibeck 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 17:13
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Hi Eric,

I think you need to use exclude.dir, like this:

define clientopt myoptset inclexcl "exclude.dir /tech/splunk"

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
Thompson
Sent: Monday, 26 February, 2024 11:07
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think 
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being 
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server
>
> But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed 
> up:
>
> Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
> Successful incremental backup of '/tech'
>
> I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
> advance!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eric van Loon
>
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
> 
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Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Eric,

I think you need to use exclude.dir, like this:

define clientopt myoptset inclexcl "exclude.dir /tech/splunk"

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Storage Protect Level 3
stor...@us.ibm.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
Thompson
Sent: Monday, 26 February, 2024 11:07
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think 
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being 
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server
>
> But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed 
> up:
>
> Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
> Successful incremental backup of '/tech'
>
> I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
> advance!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eric van Loon
>
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
> 
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> Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with 
> registered number 33014286
> 

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-- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
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Re: Fiddling with exclude statement

[Skylar Thompson]

Do you have DIRMC set? My experience is that supersedes any normal exclude 
rules, though
would only backup the directories and not their contents. I think
exclude.dir would work to exclude that path and avoid the directories being
backed up, though.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 03:59:47PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
> subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem 
> to be processed OK:
>
> [root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
> Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server
>
> But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed 
> up:
>
> Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
> Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
> Successful incremental backup of '/tech'
>
> I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
> advance!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eric van Loon
>
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
> 
> For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: 
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> Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered 
> number 33014286
> 

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-- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
-- Pronouns: He/Him/His

Fiddling with exclude statement

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to exclude a directory called /tech/splunk (including all 
subdirectories) through a client option set. The exclude on the client seem to 
be processed OK:

[root@hostname ~]# dsmc q inclexcl|grep splunk
Exclude All   /tech/splunk/.../* Server

But when I run an incremental on /tech, I do see subdirectories being backed up:

Incremental backup of volume '/tech'
Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/etc [Sent]
Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var [Sent]
Directory-->   1,024 /tech/splunk/var/run [Sent]
Successful incremental backup of '/tech'

I don't understand why, what am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any help in 
advance!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra

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Re: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

[Oscar Kolsteren]

Hi Kirsten,

I'm part of the Client Storage Assessment team and we provide FREE of charge 
HTML based, stand-alone SP Health Check reports.

If you interested please DM me so we can get this going.

Best Regards,

Oscar Kolsteren
Lead Storage Consultant, IBM Client Storage Assessment Team (UKI)


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Glöer, Kirsten
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 6:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ADSM-L] AW: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hi Eric,

thanks. Yesterday, I installed 8.1.21. 

Kirsten Glöer

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Im Auftrag von Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2024 11:07
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hi Kirsten,

8.1.21 doesn't provide any new features, compared to 8.1.20, merely bug fixes. 
Especially when you use stgrule replication, I would definitely go for  8.1.21.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Glöer, 
Kirsten 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 12:17
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hello,

we would like to update our servers. Is it recommended to update to version 
8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer

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AW: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

[Glöer , Kirsten]

Hi Eric,

thanks. Yesterday, I installed 8.1.21. 

Kirsten Glöer

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Im Auftrag von Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2024 11:07
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hi Kirsten,

8.1.21 doesn't provide any new features, compared to 8.1.20, merely bug fixes. 
Especially when you use stgrule replication, I would definitely go for  8.1.21.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Glöer, 
Kirsten 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 12:17
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hello,

we would like to update our servers. Is it recommended to update to version 
8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer

--

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Sitz der Gesellschaft: Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen, Amtsgericht Mannheim HRB 
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Re: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Kirsten,

8.1.21 doesn't provide any new features, compared to 8.1.20, merely bug fixes. 
Especially when you use stgrule replication, I would definitely go for  8.1.21.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Core Infra


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Glöer, 
Kirsten 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 12:17
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

Hello,

we would like to update our servers. Is it recommended to update to version 
8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer

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recommended server version 8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

[Glöer , Kirsten]

Hello,

we would like to update our servers. Is it recommended to update to version 
8.1.20 or 8.1.21?

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer
 
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Sitz der Gesellschaft: Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen, Amtsgericht Mannheim HRB 
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Antwort: Disaster recovery - I would like to hear your thoughts.

[Tsm Tsm]

Hello David,

as you have your data deduplicated and you cannot move it or copy it i
would prefer a second TSM Server on which you can
replicate your data. This second TSM Server must be on a second destination
far away (some miles) from your central destination.

with best regards
Stefan

Disaster recovery - I would like to hear your thoughts.

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi Forum,

Living in an area with sirens warning for incoming rockets about daily, I got 
somewhat pressured reviewing our Disaster Recovery procedures.

Our setup:

We have a single server center that is backed up on TSM Spectrum Protect on 
daily basis. The backup is container based with 100 TB disk, of which about 70 
% is used.
Compression savings: 7 %, deduplication savings: 36 %.
The container dirs are backed up daily to two tape storage pool with "Protect 
stgpool" .
The server room is in one building, the container storage in a near building in 
the cellar.
The tapes system about 800 m. away, one of the tape sets is stored about once a 
month with a database tape in a fire resistant safe at the other side of town.

Normally I think this is reasonable, but now I consider a hit to the server 
room and the container disks simultaneously.

Recovery would come from tape. 
My problem: restoring from tape would be extremely slow as we first should 
restore all of the containers before thinking about restoring clients.

I came across the "hydrated tape" option, and we also may consider a protect 
stgpool to disk.
Our system manager tells me that the hydrated tape is cumbersome, as it would 
take a lot of time, a lot of tapes, and restore would again need to bring a lot 
of tapes online.

So here is my question, what option makes more sense:
1. Hydrated tape, store after completion in vault, update maybe once a month
2. Disk storage online, at the other side of town, but not in a vault
3. Disk storage in the cloud, probably AWS S3 deep freeze, as the need to 
really recover is quite low

Consider price, convenience, speed of backup and restore.
Did you set up such system, what is your experience ?
All comments are welcome.

David de Leeuw
Ben Gurion University of the Negev
Beer Sheva 
Israel

Re: Servergraph alternatives

[Skylar Thompson]

Thanks, Eric, I've had other endorsements of TSM Manager so definitely will
be on the list. Servergraph's UI can be overwhelming too, so I won't hold
it against TSM Manager. :)

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 06:45:13AM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi Skylar,
>
> I'm using TSMManager for years. It gives me so much more insights. I have 
> encountered several unexpected growth issues in the past, which I would not 
> have been able to resolve, without the historical data collected by 
> TSMManager. The footprint is small and you can manage multiple servers with 
> one single collector. Don't let the GUI (which can be a bit overwhelming) 
> scare you off; when you click around for a few minutes, you will quickly 
> discover the logic behind it.
> I think you can use the product without a license for one month, so just have 
> a look at it.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
> Thompson
> Sent: dinsdag 24 oktober 2023 19:09
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Servergraph alternatives
>
> We've been a long-time Servergraph customer to do monitoring, reporting and 
> billing for our TSM services, and just received the announcement that Rocket 
> will be ending development at the end of May 2025. What are other Servergraph 
> customers planning on moving to? Servergraph hasn't been perfect (the upgrade 
> from v7 to v9 was particularly challenging) but overall it's been a great 
> product with good support, and we're hoping to find something off-the-shelf 
> rather than rolling our own solution.
>
> --
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> -- Genome Sciences Department (UW Medicine), System Administrator
> -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
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Re: Servergraph alternatives

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Skylar,

I'm using TSMManager for years. It gives me so much more insights. I have 
encountered several unexpected growth issues in the past, which I would not 
have been able to resolve, without the historical data collected by TSMManager. 
The footprint is small and you can manage multiple servers with one single 
collector. Don't let the GUI (which can be a bit overwhelming) scare you off; 
when you click around for a few minutes, you will quickly discover the logic 
behind it.
I think you can use the product without a license for one month, so just have a 
look at it.

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra

-Original Message-
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Thompson
Sent: dinsdag 24 oktober 2023 19:09
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Servergraph alternatives

We've been a long-time Servergraph customer to do monitoring, reporting and 
billing for our TSM services, and just received the announcement that Rocket 
will be ending development at the end of May 2025. What are other Servergraph 
customers planning on moving to? Servergraph hasn't been perfect (the upgrade 
from v7 to v9 was particularly challenging) but overall it's been a great 
product with good support, and we're hoping to find something off-the-shelf 
rather than rolling our own solution.

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will be ending development at the end of May 2025. What are other
Servergraph customers planning on moving to? Servergraph hasn't been
perfect (the upgrade from v7 to v9 was particularly challenging) but
overall it's been a great product with good support, and we're hoping to
find something off-the-shelf rather than rolling our own solution.

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Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Good morning, TSM'ers.

My explanation of the problem, as I wrote yesterday, was wrong.
It appears some of our disks on the backup system were defined as "thin 
provisioned".
When these fill up, and cannot expand anymore, Windows will still show empty 
space on them.
I focused my attention on the disks with zero space left. But these were 
working fine.

Once I declared the "thin provisioned" disks as read-only in "update stgpooldir 
XXX access=readonly" on TSM everything works fine.
I will remove them ASAP.

Conclusion:

1. TSM works fine, but could be more tolerant if one of the stgpooldirs 
encounters a problem.
2. Windows Server works fine
3. VMWare works fine, but blocks the service without timely information to the 
end user. Only analysis of the logs point to the solution.
4. System manager (me) is too multifunctional and misses deeper understanding 
of some systems he works with.

Have a nice day

David

-Original Message-
From: דוד דה ליאו 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 2:35 PM
To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 
Cc: סער קליין - Saar Klein 
Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Dear Chavdar, Michall and others,

Just an update on the issue I raised a few days ago concerning the failed 
backups.

Our ISP server uses a separate windows server with about 100 TB of containers, 
divided over 28 disks.
Backups started crashing about a week ago.
At some point the system would get stuck for five minutes or so.

Of course, a lot of different issues happened at the same time:

-The problem started after windows server updates, which forced us to reboot 
most of our systems.
-One user dumped about a terabyte of mostly small files on our system.
- Our Spectrum Protect system manager was on holidays.
-As always there are other usual suspects: antivirus etc.

Our container server runs on Vmware ESXI infrastructure. We opened a call to 
VMWARE, sent them the logs of the ESXI server.
They found a very simple cause to the problem: disks were filled up, and the 
system froze.

When checking the logs, I found that the backup containers opened in write mode 
were on disks without any space left, while other disks were less than half 
full.
So here is my solution: set the containerdirs that are full on read-only, move 
containers, wait till the containers are deleted. 

My question is: why is this process not managed automatically by ISP? Why are 
disks with a lot of space not prioritized for writing?

Thanks for your help !

David de Leeuw

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 6:11 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hi David,
Just make sure that containers are excluded from anti-virus scan.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Apparently, this has nothing to do with SP at all !
>
> The (Windows server 2019 on ESXI) system holding the containers just 
> disconnects for 5 minutes !
>
> No pings to the server.
>
> When access is restored, later on, a message appears in the events:
> "The system time has changed to 2023-08-20T19:05:05 from
> 2023-08-20T19:01:04  "
> This is no warning even, just "information".
>
> I have no idea why this should happen, but we will find it.
> Thanks for your support !
>
> David
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: דוד דה ליאו
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:37 PM
> To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 
> Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server 
> and client
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> The SP Server is not on VM, just the storage. I am not the manager to 
> the server.
> Just got a lot of backup storage if we provide the space for the 
> containers.
>
> Sure we run a lot of sessions in parallel as you said. I will try a 
> run according to your recommendations.
> One other thought I am testing, is that over a year ago we also had 
> crashes. The 10 Gb optical network had hickups. Our 1 Gb line worked fine.
> I just switched back to the 1 Gb and see what happens.
>
> Will keep you posted !
>
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Prix
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:04 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server 
> and client
>
> Hello David,
>
>   an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it 
> should work - and has proven so for the past.
>
> For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning 
> several sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop 
> it for the moment.
> Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", 
> if set,  and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like).
> I'f it still crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.
>
> --
> Michael Prix
>
>
>
>
> August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Dear Chavdar, Michall and others,

Just an update on the issue I raised a few days ago concerning the failed 
backups.

Our ISP server uses a separate windows server with about 100 TB of containers, 
divided over 28 disks.
Backups started crashing about a week ago.
At some point the system would get stuck for five minutes or so.

Of course, a lot of different issues happened at the same time:

-The problem started after windows server updates, which forced us to reboot 
most of our systems.
-One user dumped about a terabyte of mostly small files on our system.
- Our Spectrum Protect system manager was on holidays.
-As always there are other usual suspects: antivirus etc.

Our container server runs on Vmware ESXI infrastructure. We opened a call to 
VMWARE, sent them the logs of the ESXI server.
They found a very simple cause to the problem: disks were filled up, and the 
system froze.

When checking the logs, I found that the backup containers opened in write mode 
were on disks without any space left, while other disks were less than half 
full.
So here is my solution: set the containerdirs that are full on read-only, move 
containers, wait till the containers are deleted. 

My question is: why is this process not managed automatically by ISP? Why are 
disks with a lot of space not prioritized for writing?

Thanks for your help !

David de Leeuw

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 6:11 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hi David,
Just make sure that containers are excluded from anti-virus scan.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Apparently, this has nothing to do with SP at all !
>
> The (Windows server 2019 on ESXI) system holding the containers just 
> disconnects for 5 minutes !
>
> No pings to the server.
>
> When access is restored, later on, a message appears in the events:
> "The system time has changed to 2023-08-20T19:05:05 from
> 2023-08-20T19:01:04  "
> This is no warning even, just "information".
>
> I have no idea why this should happen, but we will find it.
> Thanks for your support !
>
> David
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: דוד דה ליאו
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:37 PM
> To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 
> Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server 
> and client
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> The SP Server is not on VM, just the storage. I am not the manager to 
> the server.
> Just got a lot of backup storage if we provide the space for the 
> containers.
>
> Sure we run a lot of sessions in parallel as you said. I will try a 
> run according to your recommendations.
> One other thought I am testing, is that over a year ago we also had 
> crashes. The 10 Gb optical network had hickups. Our 1 Gb line worked fine.
> I just switched back to the 1 Gb and see what happens.
>
> Will keep you posted !
>
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Prix
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:04 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server 
> and client
>
> Hello David,
>
>   an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it 
> should work - and has proven so for the past.
>
> For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning 
> several sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop 
> it for the moment.
> Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", 
> if set,  and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like). 
> I'f it still crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.
>
> --
> Michael Prix
>
>
>
>
> August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Hi Chavdar and Michael,
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts and help.
> >
> > I added "memoryefficientbackup".
> >
> > But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I 
> > get a
> whole bit of errors for storage pool directories, and in fact the 
> whole pool becomes unavailable.
> > I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible
> again.
> > Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit.
> >
> > Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's
> allocated, 64 GB memory, 110 TB disk. The disks are declared as VMDKs.
> Network is on a 10Gb Intel 82588 card.
> > Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.
> >
> > Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a
> problem with Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not 
> make sense.
> >
> > I am quite at a loss where to look next ...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> > [Server Side] .
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:22 ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2
> (WinNT)
> >  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on  
> > 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[Chavdar Cholev]

Hi David,
Just make sure that containers are excluded from anti-virus scan.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Apparently, this has nothing to do with SP at all !
>
> The (Windows server 2019 on ESXI) system holding the containers just
> disconnects for 5 minutes !
>
> No pings to the server.
>
> When access is restored, later on, a message appears in the events:
> "The system time has changed to 2023-08-20T19:05:05 from
> 2023-08-20T19:01:04  "
> This is no warning even, just "information".
>
> I have no idea why this should happen, but we will find it.
> Thanks for your support !
>
> David
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: דוד דה ליאו
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:37 PM
> To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 
> Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and
> client
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> The SP Server is not on VM, just the storage. I am not the manager to the
> server.
> Just got a lot of backup storage if we provide the space for the
> containers.
>
> Sure we run a lot of sessions in parallel as you said. I will try a run
> according to your recommendations.
> One other thought I am testing, is that over a year ago we also had
> crashes. The 10 Gb optical network had hickups. Our 1 Gb line worked fine.
> I just switched back to the 1 Gb and see what happens.
>
> Will keep you posted !
>
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Michael
> Prix
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:04 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and
> client
>
> Hello David,
>
>   an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it should
> work - and has proven so for the past.
>
> For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning
> several sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop it for
> the moment.
> Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", if
> set,  and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like). I'f it
> still crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.
>
> --
> Michael Prix
>
>
>
>
> August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Hi Chavdar and Michael,
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts and help.
> >
> > I added "memoryefficientbackup".
> >
> > But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I get a
> whole bit of errors for storage pool directories, and in fact the whole
> pool becomes unavailable.
> > I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible
> again.
> > Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit.
> >
> > Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's
> allocated, 64 GB memory, 110 TB disk. The disks are declared as VMDKs.
> Network is on a 10Gb Intel 82588 card.
> > Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.
> >
> > Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a
> problem with Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not make
> sense.
> >
> > I am quite at a loss where to look next ...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> > [Server Side] .
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:22 ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2
> (WinNT)
> >  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on
> >  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197902)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR8592I Session 197903 connection is using protocol
> >  TLSV13, cipher specification TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
> >  certificate TSM Self-Signed Certificate. (SESSION:
> >  197903)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR0839I Session 197903 started for node MEDFS2
> (WinNT)
> >  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53185) on
> >  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197903)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool
> directory:
> >  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc20 in storage pool:
> >  CPOOL. (SESSION: 197881)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR1181E sdtxn.c(1404): Data storage transaction
> >  0:83236375 was aborted. (SESSION: 197881)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR0204I The container state for
> >  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
> >  ncf is updated from AVAILABLE to UNAVAILABLE. (SESSION:
> >  197883)
> > 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR3660E An unexpected error occurred while opening
> or
> >  writing to the container. Container
> >  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
> >  ncf in stgpool CPOOL has been marked as UNAVAILABLE and
> >  should be audited to validate accessibility and content.
> >  (SESSION: 197883)
> >
> > [From the client side:]
> >
> > During the incr of a large filespace:
> >
> > Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU -
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI
> and general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx ** Unsuccessful 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi all,

Apparently, this has nothing to do with SP at all !

The (Windows server 2019 on ESXI) system holding the containers just 
disconnects for 5 minutes ! 

No pings to the server. 

When access is restored, later on, a message appears in the events:
"The system time has changed to 2023-08-20T19:05:05 from 2023-08-20T19:01:04  "
This is no warning even, just "information". 

I have no idea why this should happen, but we will find it.
Thanks for your support !

David



-Original Message-
From: דוד דה ליאו 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:37 PM
To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager 
Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hi Michael,

Thanks a lot.

The SP Server is not on VM, just the storage. I am not the manager to the 
server. 
Just got a lot of backup storage if we provide the space for the containers.

Sure we run a lot of sessions in parallel as you said. I will try a run 
according to your recommendations.
One other thought I am testing, is that over a year ago we also had crashes. 
The 10 Gb optical network had hickups. Our 1 Gb line worked fine.
I just switched back to the 1 Gb and see what happens. 

Will keep you posted !

David


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Michael Prix
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hello David,

  an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it should work 
- and has proven so for the past.

For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning several 
sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop it for the moment.
Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", if set,  
and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like). I'f it still 
crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.

-- 
Michael Prix




August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:


> 
> Hi Chavdar and Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts and help.
> 
> I added "memoryefficientbackup". 
> 
> But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I get a whole 
> bit of errors for storage pool directories, and in fact the whole pool 
> becomes unavailable. 
> I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible again.
> Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit. 
> 
> Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's allocated, 
> 64 GB memory, 110 TB disk. The disks are declared as VMDKs. Network is on a 
> 10Gb Intel 82588 card.
> Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.
> 
> Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a problem 
> with Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not make sense.
> 
> I am quite at a loss where to look next ...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> 
> [Server Side] .
> 20-08-2023 19:47:22 ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197902)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR8592I Session 197903 connection is using protocol
>  TLSV13, cipher specification TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
>  certificate TSM Self-Signed Certificate. (SESSION:
>  197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR0839I Session 197903 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53185) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc20 in storage pool:
>  CPOOL. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR1181E sdtxn.c(1404): Data storage transaction
>  0:83236375 was aborted. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR0204I The container state for
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf is updated from AVAILABLE to UNAVAILABLE. (SESSION:
>  197883)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR3660E An unexpected error occurred while opening or
>  writing to the container. Container
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf in stgpool CPOOL has been marked as UNAVAILABLE and
>  should be audited to validate accessibility and content.
>  (SESSION: 197883)
> 
> [From the client side:]
> 
> During the incr of a large filespace:
> 
> Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' failed.
> ANS1311E Server out of data storage space
> 
> [I 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi Michael,

Thanks a lot.

The SP Server is not on VM, just the storage. I am not the manager to the 
server. 
Just got a lot of backup storage if we provide the space for the containers.

Sure we run a lot of sessions in parallel as you said. I will try a run 
according to your recommendations.
One other thought I am testing, is that over a year ago we also had crashes. 
The 10 Gb optical network had hickups. Our 1 Gb line worked fine.
I just switched back to the 1 Gb and see what happens. 

Will keep you posted !

David


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Michael Prix
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 9:04 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hello David,

  an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it should work 
- and has proven so for the past.

For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning several 
sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop it for the moment.
Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", if set,  
and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like). I'f it still 
crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.

-- 
Michael Prix




August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:


> 
> Hi Chavdar and Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts and help.
> 
> I added "memoryefficientbackup". 
> 
> But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I get a whole 
> bit of errors for storage pool directories, and in fact the whole pool 
> becomes unavailable. 
> I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible again.
> Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit. 
> 
> Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's allocated, 
> 64 GB memory, 110 TB disk. The disks are declared as VMDKs. Network is on a 
> 10Gb Intel 82588 card.
> Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.
> 
> Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a problem 
> with Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not make sense.
> 
> I am quite at a loss where to look next ...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> 
> [Server Side] .
> 20-08-2023 19:47:22 ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197902)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR8592I Session 197903 connection is using protocol
>  TLSV13, cipher specification TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
>  certificate TSM Self-Signed Certificate. (SESSION:
>  197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR0839I Session 197903 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53185) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc20 in storage pool:
>  CPOOL. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR1181E sdtxn.c(1404): Data storage transaction
>  0:83236375 was aborted. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR0204I The container state for
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf is updated from AVAILABLE to UNAVAILABLE. (SESSION:
>  197883)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR3660E An unexpected error occurred while opening or
>  writing to the container. Container
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf in stgpool CPOOL has been marked as UNAVAILABLE and
>  should be audited to validate accessibility and content.
>  (SESSION: 197883)
> 
> [From the client side:]
> 
> During the incr of a large filespace:
> 
> Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' failed.
> ANS1311E Server out of data storage space
> 
> [I ran sel of the latest file. It failed because all containerdirs were 
> unavailable.]
> 
> ANS1804E Selective Backup processing of '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 
> BU - E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' finished with failures.
> 
> Total number of objects inspected: 1
> Total number of objects backed up: 0
> Total number of objects updated: 0
> Total number of objects rebound: 0
> Total number of objects deleted: 0
> Total number of objects expired: 0
> Total number of objects failed: 1
>  ...

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[Michael Prix]

Hello David,

  an *SP-Server in a VM is not the best setup, but nevertheless it should work 
- and has proven so for the past.

For the client: Please show the dsm.opt. I suspect you are trunning several 
sessions from this client in parallel during a backup-> stop it for the moment.
Start with a basic dsm.opt, disable the option "resourceutilization", if set,  
and set "memoryefficient yes" (or "diskcachem" if you like). I'f it still 
crashes with a plain dsm.opt, you should open a ticket with IBM.

-- 
Michael Prix




August 20, 2023 at 7:25 PM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:


> 
> Hi Chavdar and Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts and help.
> 
> I added "memoryefficientbackup". 
> 
> But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I get a whole 
> bit of errors for storage pool directories, and in fact the whole pool 
> becomes unavailable. 
> I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible again.
> Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit. 
> 
> Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's allocated, 
> 64 GB memory, 110 TB disk. The disks are declared as VMDKs. Network is on a 
> 10Gb Intel 82588 card.
> Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.
> 
> Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a problem 
> with Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not make sense.
> 
> I am quite at a loss where to look next ...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> 
> [Server Side] .
> 20-08-2023 19:47:22 ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197902)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR8592I Session 197903 connection is using protocol
>  TLSV13, cipher specification TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
>  certificate TSM Self-Signed Certificate. (SESSION:
>  197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:26 ANR0839I Session 197903 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
>  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53185) on
>  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197903)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc20 in storage pool:
>  CPOOL. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR1181E sdtxn.c(1404): Data storage transaction
>  0:83236375 was aborted. (SESSION: 197881)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR0204I The container state for
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf is updated from AVAILABLE to UNAVAILABLE. (SESSION:
>  197883)
> 20-08-2023 19:47:55 ANR3660E An unexpected error occurred while opening or
>  writing to the container. Container
>  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
>  ncf in stgpool CPOOL has been marked as UNAVAILABLE and
>  should be audited to validate accessibility and content.
>  (SESSION: 197883)
> 
> [From the client side:]
> 
> During the incr of a large filespace:
> 
> Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' failed.
> ANS1311E Server out of data storage space
> 
> [I ran sel of the latest file. It failed because all containerdirs were 
> unavailable.]
> 
> ANS1804E Selective Backup processing of '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 
> BU - E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' finished with failures.
> 
> Total number of objects inspected: 1
> Total number of objects backed up: 0
> Total number of objects updated: 0
> Total number of objects rebound: 0
> Total number of objects deleted: 0
> Total number of objects expired: 0
> Total number of objects failed: 1
>  ...
> Network data transfer rate: 148.306,35 KB/sec
> Aggregate data transfer rate: 211,50 KB/sec
> Objects compressed by: 0%
> Total data reduction ratio: 0.23%
> Subfile objects reduced by: 0%
> Elapsed processing time: 00:00:32
> ANS1311E Server out of data storage space
> 
> [Then I updated the containerdirs to readwrite and ran the selective backup. 
> No problem]
> ---
> Protect> sel '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
> E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
> 313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
> general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx'
> Selective 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi Chavdar and Michael,

Thanks for your thoughts and help.

I added "memoryefficientbackup". 

But still the sessions keep crashing. Once the session crashes, I get a whole 
bit of errors   for storage pool directories, and in fact the whole pool 
becomes unavailable. 
I run "update stgpooldir ... access=readwrite" and all is accessible again.
Some of the containers are in unavailable state and need audit. 

Our container storage is on a Dell PowerEdge R730xd, has 24 CPU's allocated, 64 
GB memory, 110 TB disk.  The disks are declared as VMDKs.  Network is on a 10Gb 
Intel 82588 card.
Nothing I can see points to a lack of resources.

Everything worked fine till 4 days ago. That is why I thought of a problem with 
Windows updates, but as I rolled them back, that does not make sense.

I am quite at a loss where to look next ...

Thanks

David

[Server Side] .
20-08-2023 19:47:22  ANR0839I Session 197902 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53184) on
  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197902)
20-08-2023 19:47:26  ANR8592I Session 197903 connection is using protocol
  TLSV13, cipher specification TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384,
  certificate TSM Self-Signed Certificate. (SESSION:
  197903)
20-08-2023 19:47:26  ANR0839I Session 197903 started for node MEDFS2 (WinNT)
  (SSL medspice.bgu.ac.il[132.72.73.246]:53185) on
  STOREWARE13.auth.ad.bgu.ac.il:1502. (SESSION: 197903)
20-08-2023 19:47:55  ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc20 in storage pool:
  CPOOL. (SESSION: 197881)
20-08-2023 19:47:55  ANR1181E sdtxn.c(1404): Data storage transaction
  0:83236375 was aborted. (SESSION: 197881)
20-08-2023 19:47:55  ANR0204I The container state for
  
\\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
  ncf is updated from AVAILABLE to UNAVAILABLE. 
(SESSION:
  197883)
20-08-2023 19:47:55  ANR3660E An unexpected error occurred while opening or
  writing to the container. Container
  
\\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc17\18\1853.-
  ncf in stgpool CPOOL has been marked as UNAVAILABLE 
and
  should be audited to validate accessibility and 
content.
   (SESSION: 197883)

[From the client side:]

During the incr of a large filespace:

Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' failed.
ANS1311E Server out of data storage space

[I ran sel of the latest file. It failed because all containerdirs were 
unavailable.]

ANS1804E Selective Backup processing of '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 
BU - E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx' finished with failures.


Total number of objects inspected:1
Total number of objects backed up:0
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:   1
 ...
Network data transfer rate:  148.306,35 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:211,50 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:0%
Total data reduction ratio:0.23%
Subfile objects reduced by:   0%
Elapsed processing time:   00:00:32
ANS1311E Server out of data storage space

[Then I updated the containerdirs to readwrite and ran the selective backup. No 
problem]
---
Protect> sel '\\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 
E\MyDocs(E)-PrevOLD-D\MyDocs (D)\PERSON-CRITER\FAMILY\OMRI's folder 
313843070\OMRI 1-16 medical issue\MRIs - CTs - OMRI\MY PROCESSING of MRI and 
general MRI data\For-Crop-T2W - coronal Copy.pptx'
Selective Backup function invoked.

Normal File--> 7.132.827 \\medfs2\e$\medusers14\angel\17.8.23 BU - 

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[Chavdar Cholev]

Just to make sure that we are on the same page...
You have TSM installed on VM running on VMware. This VM has few LUNs
presented and those LUN are used for containers?

Short in the dark:
1. Check VM resources if they are as IBM TSM blue print.
2. Check LUNs/HDDs response time in perf. monitor. The response time should
around 20-30 Ms during the backup operating.
3. Do you know if those HDDd for LUNs are .vmdk or RDM (raw device map)?

Thank you!
Chavdar

On Saturday, August 19, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi TSM experts,
>
> Our incr backup fails consistently in the last few days. It starts alright
> but after a few gigabyte on the client we get the error:
>
> ANS1301E This operation cannot continue due to an error on the IBM
> Spectrum Protect server. See your IBM Spectrum Protect server administrator
> for assistance.
>
> On the server side we see:
>
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 194578 for node
> MEDFS2 (WinNT) - internal server error detected.
> (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:26 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
>
>
> Then we find one or more containers unavailable. We fix the containers
> with "audit container ... action=scanall"
> No errors are found. But the next backup will fail again.
>
> The server is on 8.1.17, the client as well.
> The containers are on a number of disks on a shared windows server 2019.
> There have been some updates on the windows server recently.
> (KB5029247,KB5029647)
>
> The audits are fine, data is accessible, but backups fail.
> Any ideas ?
>
> David de Leeuw
> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva Israel
>
>

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[Michael Prix]

Hello David,

  if partial incremental backups work, but full incrementals fail, this points 
to a problem with the client.
Have you tried the clientoption "memoryefficientbackup" already for this 
client? It might be that the number of files grew in the past and just hit the 
memory boundaries of the client.

Always remember: IBM error messages aren't there to help YOU :-)

-- 
Michael Prix




August 20, 2023 at 10:46 AM, "David L.A. De Leeuw"  wrote:


> 
> Hi Chavdar,
> 
> For the containers we use a dedicated Windows Server, (on VMWare EsxI), with 
> just a bunch of disks on NTFS. Each disk about 4 TB.
> INCR of one specific client crashes since a few days every time. There are 
> about 25 million files there (40 TB).
> If I try incremental backup on a part of the disk, it works fine.
> 
> On the server with the containers, I checked events, antivirus, uninstalled 
> Windows updates of August. Did not find any problems.
> The only similar case I found was here:
> https://adsm.org/forum/index.php?threads/storagepool-containers-going-unavailable.32858/
> 
> That points to a problem of memory on the Spectrum Protect server.
> Our system manager is on holidays this week, so cannot check that further.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Chavdar 
> Cholev
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 11:16 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client
> 
> Hi David,
> What kind of storage do you use for containers (SAN, NAS...)?
> 
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi TSM experts,
> > 
> >  Our incr backup fails consistently in the last few days. It starts 
> >  alright but after a few gigabyte on the client we get the error:
> > 
> >  ANS1301E This operation cannot continue due to an error on the IBM 
> >  Spectrum Protect server. See your IBM Spectrum Protect server 
> >  administrator for assistance.
> > 
> >  On the server side we see:
> > 
> >  18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> >  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> >  CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
> >  18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 194578 for 
> >  node
> >  MEDFS2 (WinNT) - internal server error detected.
> >  (SESSION: 194578)
> >  18-08-2023 22:57:26 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> >  \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> >  CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
> > 
> >  Then we find one or more containers unavailable. We fix the containers 
> >  with "audit container ... action=scanall"
> >  No errors are found. But the next backup will fail again.
> > 
> >  The server is on 8.1.17, the client as well.
> >  The containers are on a number of disks on a shared windows server 2019.
> >  There have been some updates on the windows server recently.
> >  (KB5029247,KB5029647)
> > 
> >  The audits are fine, data is accessible, but backups fail.
> >  Any ideas ?
> > 
> >  David de Leeuw
> >  Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> >  Beer Sheva Israel
> >
>

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi Chavdar,

For the containers we use a dedicated Windows Server, (on VMWare EsxI), with 
just a bunch of disks on NTFS. Each disk about 4 TB.
INCR of one specific client crashes since a few days every time. There are 
about 25 million files there (40 TB).
If I try incremental backup on a part of the disk, it works fine.

On the server with the containers, I checked events, antivirus, uninstalled 
Windows updates of August. Did not find any problems.
The only similar case I found was here:
https://adsm.org/forum/index.php?threads/storagepool-containers-going-unavailable.32858/

That points to a problem of memory on the Spectrum Protect server.
Our system manager is on holidays this week, so cannot check that further.

Thanks

David


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Chavdar Cholev
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 11:16 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

Hi David,
What kind of storage do you use for containers (SAN, NAS...)?

On Saturday, August 19, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi TSM experts,
>
> Our incr backup fails consistently in the last few days. It starts 
> alright but after a few gigabyte on the client we get the error:
>
> ANS1301E This operation cannot continue due to an error on the IBM 
> Spectrum Protect server. See your IBM Spectrum Protect server 
> administrator for assistance.
>
> On the server side we see:
>
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 194578 for 
> node
> MEDFS2 (WinNT) - internal server error detected.
> (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:26 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
>
>
> Then we find one or more containers unavailable. We fix the containers 
> with "audit container ... action=scanall"
> No errors are found. But the next backup will fail again.
>
> The server is on 8.1.17, the client as well.
> The containers are on a number of disks on a shared windows server 2019.
> There have been some updates on the windows server recently.
> (KB5029247,KB5029647)
>
> The audits are fine, data is accessible, but backups fail.
> Any ideas ?
>
> David de Leeuw
> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva Israel
>
>

Re: INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[Chavdar Cholev]

Hi David,
What kind of storage do you use for containers (SAN, NAS...)?

On Saturday, August 19, 2023, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:

> Hi TSM experts,
>
> Our incr backup fails consistently in the last few days. It starts alright
> but after a few gigabyte on the client we get the error:
>
> ANS1301E This operation cannot continue due to an error on the IBM
> Spectrum Protect server. See your IBM Spectrum Protect server administrator
> for assistance.
>
> On the server side we see:
>
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 194578 for node
> MEDFS2 (WinNT) - internal server error detected.
> (SESSION: 194578)
> 18-08-2023 22:57:26 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
> \\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
> CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
>
>
> Then we find one or more containers unavailable. We fix the containers
> with "audit container ... action=scanall"
> No errors are found. But the next backup will fail again.
>
> The server is on 8.1.17, the client as well.
> The containers are on a number of disks on a shared windows server 2019.
> There have been some updates on the windows server recently.
> (KB5029247,KB5029647)
>
> The audits are fine, data is accessible, but backups fail.
> Any ideas ?
>
> David de Leeuw
> Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
> Beer Sheva Israel
>
>

INCR backups fail ! TSM 8.1.17 Windows Server and client

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi TSM experts,
 
Our incr backup fails consistently in the last few days. It starts alright but 
after a few gigabyte on the client we get the error:

ANS1301E This operation cannot continue due to an error on the IBM Spectrum 
Protect server. See your IBM Spectrum Protect server administrator for 
assistance.

On the server side we see:

18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
\\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
18-08-2023 22:57:25 ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 194578 for node
MEDFS2 (WinNT) - internal server error detected.
(SESSION: 194578)
18-08-2023 22:57:26 ANR2012W Error encountered for storage pool directory:
\\medbackup.med.ad.bgu.ac.il\tsmc1 in storage pool:
CPOOL. (SESSION: 194578)
 

Then we find one or more containers unavailable. We fix the containers with 
"audit container ... action=scanall"
No errors are found. But the next backup will fail again.

The server is on 8.1.17, the client as well.
The containers are on a number of disks on a shared windows server 2019. There 
have been some updates on the windows server recently. (KB5029247,KB5029647)

The audits are fine, data is accessible, but backups fail.
Any ideas ?

David de Leeuw
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer Sheva Israel

The new IBM Storage Defender - questions

[MM]

Hallo Del,
 
thanks a lot  for the Infos about the new IBM Storage Defender.
 
I've two questions regarding these new capabilities. - thanks in advance for 
the answers.
 
Basically I think, that it is a very good idea to improve resilience for data 
storage, backup and restore across the storage product suite with the help of 
the new  IBM Storage Defender capabilities.
 
As I understand (pls correct me if I’m wrong):
 
The IBM Storage Protect Software (“former ISP/TSM”)  can be used as before – no 
change,  but if a customer would like to use these new data resilience features 
(SOAR & SIEM security solutions), individual  IBM Storage Defender options can 
only be purchased as so called “Resource Units (RUs)”.
 
And so far the IBM Storage Defender functionalities are only available using a 
remote SaaS platform Cloud connection.  The connection itself is done using 
initially the “claim_to_ibm.tar” as  a “connection initiator”   &   IBM Storage 
Defender eagle agent service(s).
 
 
Question  1:   
 
In  the foreseeable future:  Is there a plan to offer also a Storage Defender 
software version which can be installed locally on-premises?
 
Question  2:
 
Does there exist a “presentation / youtube video,…”  showing the central 
management console  dashboard &  the “look & feel” of how to use / licence 
parts / or all of the new functionalities?
 
Remarks: May be I overlooked something, but I could not find any infos /  
screen shots regarding IBM Storage Defender management interface/dashboard 
within the latest official IBM storage protect 8.1.19 manuals and also not 
within the “IBM Storage Defender Data Management Service”  user guide.
 
Thanks again &  rgds   Mikel
---
Michael Malitz
 
 
 
+++

> Del Hoobler mailto:hoob...@us.ibm.com> hat am 25.05.2023 
> 01:17 CEST geschrieben:
>  
>  
> I’d love to talk to all of you about what we are doing with IBM Storage 
> Defender. It’s combining the power, scale and maturity of TSM with some of 
> the new capabilities that Cohesity brings to the table.
>  
> But, we are taking it to a higher level. Backups are critical, but bringing 
> in storage snapshots, SIEM/SOAR, alerting, data classification, recovery 
> orchestration, and Ransomware scanning takes it to the next level.
>  
> I started with WDSF in 1991. This is the biggest thing I have seen in data 
> protection since I started with IBM.
>  
> Happy to meet with you and talk about what we are doing.
>  
> Del
> —
> Del Hoobler
> Principal Storage SWAT Specialist, IBM Technology, Americas
>  
> +++ end of mail ++
> 

Linux cache tuning

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to find the best way to tune Linux disk caching, but the Blueprints 
are not mentioning anything about these parameters. On the Internet, I find 
some mixed information about tuning disk cache in a SAN environment, so I'm 
wondering what everybody else is using.
If you are using SP with SAN storage attached, can you please send me the 
output from the following commands:

sysctl vm.dirty_ratio
sysctl vm.dirty_background_ratio
sysctl vm.dirty_expire_centisecs
sysctl vm.dirty_writeback_centisecs

Just for comparison reasons. Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra

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Re: Antwort: Copy stgrule performance

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Stefan,

An LTO8 drive should be able to 360 Mbytes/sec uncompressed, which is 1.2 
TB/hour. So 300 GB/hour isn't great either. I'm using 4 drives in parallel and 
I'm still stuck at 0.5 TB/h... I think I will open a case for this. Thanks for 
your feedback!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Tsm Tsm
Sent: vrijdag 23 juni 2023 09:23
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Antwort: Copy stgrule performance

Hello Eric,

just implemented it yesterday and i see 5 TB in 16h on one LTO8 Tape.
somehow 300 GB/h

with best regards
Stefan Savoric
PROFI AG

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Antwort: Copy stgrule performance

[Tsm Tsm]

Hello Eric,

just implemented it yesterday and i see 5 TB in 16h on one LTO8 Tape.
somehow 300 GB/h

with best regards
Stefan Savoric
PROFI AG

Copy stgrule performance

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

We recently implemented a TS4300 tape library and added it to our 8.1.18 SP 
servers. I'm running a copy stgrule to tape, to create an extra copy of our 
container storagepool. The performance however is dramatic: 667 GB/h to 4 LTO9 
tape drives in parallel.
Does anybody have experience with copy stgrules to tape? If so, what is the 
performance you are experiencing?
Thanks for any help in advance.

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra

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Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Skylar Thompson]

Ah, OK, I was thinking in relation to tape devices, I wouldn't expect SAN
discovery to be in play for disk, or at least not in a way that's visible
to TSM.

Definitely let the list know what the results of the PMR are, I suspect
many of us will be curious...

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:52:14PM +0800, Saravanan Palanisamy wrote:
> Hi Skylar
>
> We use disk for db backup and it will finish within 30 minutes once db
> backup started at db2 level for 2 tb database.
>
> There is no errors or warnings reported during db backup and only concern
> it takes more than 30 min to see db backup message in db2diag log though
> tsm side backup db command issued.
>
> We just need to ensure db backup get complete two times to clear all the
> logs.
>
> Sometime we noticed there was no db backup message in db2 diag log and db
> backup process hang with 0 bytes even after  12 hours.
>
> There is more stress for us to monitor db backup process very closely as it
> may get hung anytime.
>
> Our data fully resides on all flash disk ( db , active , archive and
> directory container )
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:29 PM, Skylar Thompson  wrote:
>
> > What's the device type for the DB backup? We'll see this when SAN discovery
> > hasn't caught up with new device paths after a replacement. The telltale
> > will be ANR8975I messages on the library manager and ANR8974I messages on
> > the clients.
> >
> > As others noted, though, it can also be an API package problem. It might be
> > fruitful looking in the activity log around the time backups start, along
> > with the db2diag.log and tsmdbmgr.log files.
> >
> > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 05:16:50AM +0800, Saravanan Palanisamy wrote:
> > > !---|
> > >   This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender
> > >   You have not previously corresponded with this sender.
> > >   See https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags for additional
> > >   information.Please contact the UW-IT Service Center,
> > >   h...@uw.edu 206.221.5000, for assistance.
> > > |---!
> > >
> > > V8.1.18
> > >
> > > We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn???t issue any
> > message to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung
> > >
> > > db2 list utilities show details - No process
> > > db2diag.log - didn???t see any message like ( Starting an online db
> > backup )
> > >
> > > Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db
> > backup again hung.
> > >
> > > Main issue here :
> > >
> > > When we start tsm db backup it???s not able start and archive log became
> > full. Tried to increase archive log few times.
> > >
> > > We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck.
> > >
> > > we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and
> > running.
> > >
> > > Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more
> > server.
> > >
> > > We have raised PMR to check this issue.
> > >
> > > Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ?
> > >
> > > We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to
> > v8.1.18
> > >
> > >
> > > Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we
> > will see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and
> > causing outage for production jobs.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Sarav
> > > +65 9857 8665
> >
> > --
> > -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu)
> > -- Genome Sciences Department (UW Medicine), System Administrator
> > -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
> > -- Pronouns: He/Him/His
> >
> --
> Thanks & Regards,
> Saravanan
> Mobile: +65-8228 4384

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-- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
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Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Hi Skylar

We use disk for db backup and it will finish within 30 minutes once db
backup started at db2 level for 2 tb database.

There is no errors or warnings reported during db backup and only concern
it takes more than 30 min to see db backup message in db2diag log though
tsm side backup db command issued.

We just need to ensure db backup get complete two times to clear all the
logs.

Sometime we noticed there was no db backup message in db2 diag log and db
backup process hang with 0 bytes even after  12 hours.

There is more stress for us to monitor db backup process very closely as it
may get hung anytime.

Our data fully resides on all flash disk ( db , active , archive and
directory container )





On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:29 PM, Skylar Thompson  wrote:

> What's the device type for the DB backup? We'll see this when SAN discovery
> hasn't caught up with new device paths after a replacement. The telltale
> will be ANR8975I messages on the library manager and ANR8974I messages on
> the clients.
>
> As others noted, though, it can also be an API package problem. It might be
> fruitful looking in the activity log around the time backups start, along
> with the db2diag.log and tsmdbmgr.log files.
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 05:16:50AM +0800, Saravanan Palanisamy wrote:
> > !---|
> >   This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender
> >   You have not previously corresponded with this sender.
> >   See https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags for additional
> >   information.Please contact the UW-IT Service Center,
> >   h...@uw.edu 206.221.5000, for assistance.
> > |---!
> >
> > V8.1.18
> >
> > We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn???t issue any
> message to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung
> >
> > db2 list utilities show details - No process
> > db2diag.log - didn???t see any message like ( Starting an online db
> backup )
> >
> > Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db
> backup again hung.
> >
> > Main issue here :
> >
> > When we start tsm db backup it???s not able start and archive log became
> full. Tried to increase archive log few times.
> >
> > We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck.
> >
> > we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and
> running.
> >
> > Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more
> server.
> >
> > We have raised PMR to check this issue.
> >
> > Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ?
> >
> > We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to
> v8.1.18
> >
> >
> > Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we
> will see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and
> causing outage for production jobs.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Sarav
> > +65 9857 8665
>
> --
> -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu)
> -- Genome Sciences Department (UW Medicine), System Administrator
> -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
> -- Pronouns: He/Him/His
>
--
Thanks & Regards,
Saravanan
Mobile: +65-8228 4384

Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Skylar Thompson]

What's the device type for the DB backup? We'll see this when SAN discovery
hasn't caught up with new device paths after a replacement. The telltale
will be ANR8975I messages on the library manager and ANR8974I messages on
the clients.

As others noted, though, it can also be an API package problem. It might be
fruitful looking in the activity log around the time backups start, along
with the db2diag.log and tsmdbmgr.log files.

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 05:16:50AM +0800, Saravanan Palanisamy wrote:
> !---|
>   This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender
>   You have not previously corresponded with this sender.
>   See https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags for additional
>   information.Please contact the UW-IT Service Center,
>   h...@uw.edu 206.221.5000, for assistance.
> |---!
>
> V8.1.18
>
> We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn???t issue any 
> message to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung
>
> db2 list utilities show details - No process
> db2diag.log - didn???t see any message like ( Starting an online db backup )
>
> Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db 
> backup again hung.
>
> Main issue here :
>
> When we start tsm db backup it???s not able start and archive log became 
> full. Tried to increase archive log few times.
>
> We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck.
>
> we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and 
> running.
>
> Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more 
> server.
>
> We have raised PMR to check this issue.
>
> Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ?
>
> We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to v8.1.18
>
>
> Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we will 
> see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and causing 
> outage for production jobs.
>
>
> Regards
> Sarav
> +65 9857 8665

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-- Genome Sciences Department (UW Medicine), System Administrator
-- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
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Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Hi Vikas 

We are using latest tsm client (8.1.17.2) and server version (8.1.18) 

Regards 
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665


> On 30 May 2023, at 2:27 AM, Vikas Arora  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sarav,
> 
> May  I ask which tsm client version (dsmadmc) you are using? Can you please
> try to update it with the latest version and then re-try? I had a similar
> experience a few days ago and that helped!
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Grüße
> Vikas Arora
> 
> *e Mail* : vikar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 at 13:38, Saravanan Palanisamy <
>> evergreen.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Today it took more than 90 min to initiate db backup at db2 level where as
>> admin schedule issues backup db command 90 min before and backup got
>> completed. We will monitor closely.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Sarav
>> +65 9857 8665
>> 
>> 
 On 29 May 2023, at 3:29 PM, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarav
>>> 
>>> We had a similar case, just yesterday. I noticed the daily full database
>> backup schedule was missed a number of days.
>>> Then I found that five days ago the daily full backup just hanged.
>>> Canceling the process hung as well on "pending".
>>> 
>>> I contacted our system administrator and she reported that db2 got
>> "stuck".
>>> She rebooted the server, and the next backup ran as usual.
>>> If this repeats, we will open a PMR as well.
>>> 
>>> Our version: 8.1.17
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> David de Leeuw
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
>> Saravanan Palanisamy
>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 12:17 AM
>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours
>>> 
>>> V8.1.18
>>> 
>>> We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn’t issue any
>> message to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung
>>> 
>>> db2 list utilities show details - No process db2diag.log - didn’t see
>> any message like ( Starting an online db backup )
>>> 
>>> Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db
>> backup again hung.
>>> 
>>> Main issue here :
>>> 
>>> When we start tsm db backup it’s not able start and archive log became
>> full. Tried to increase archive log few times.
>>> 
>>> We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck.
>>> 
>>> we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and
>> running.
>>> 
>>> Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more
>> server.
>>> 
>>> We have raised PMR to check this issue.
>>> 
>>> Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ?
>>> 
>>> We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to
>> v8.1.18
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we
>> will see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and
>> causing outage for production jobs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Sarav
>>> +65 9857 8665
>> 

Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Vikas Arora]

Hi Sarav,

May  I ask which tsm client version (dsmadmc) you are using? Can you please
try to update it with the latest version and then re-try? I had a similar
experience a few days ago and that helped!

thanks



Grüße
Vikas Arora

*e Mail* : vikar...@gmail.com


On Mon, 29 May 2023 at 13:38, Saravanan Palanisamy <
evergreen.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Today it took more than 90 min to initiate db backup at db2 level where as
> admin schedule issues backup db command 90 min before and backup got
> completed. We will monitor closely.
>
> Regards
> Sarav
> +65 9857 8665
>
>
> > On 29 May 2023, at 3:29 PM, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sarav
> >
> > We had a similar case, just yesterday. I noticed the daily full database
> backup schedule was missed a number of days.
> > Then I found that five days ago the daily full backup just hanged.
> > Canceling the process hung as well on "pending".
> >
> > I contacted our system administrator and she reported that db2 got
> "stuck".
> > She rebooted the server, and the next backup ran as usual.
> > If this repeats, we will open a PMR as well.
> >
> > Our version: 8.1.17
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > David de Leeuw
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
> Saravanan Palanisamy
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 12:17 AM
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours
> >
> > V8.1.18
> >
> > We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn’t issue any
> message to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung
> >
> > db2 list utilities show details - No process db2diag.log - didn’t see
> any message like ( Starting an online db backup )
> >
> > Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db
> backup again hung.
> >
> > Main issue here :
> >
> > When we start tsm db backup it’s not able start and archive log became
> full. Tried to increase archive log few times.
> >
> > We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck.
> >
> > we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and
> running.
> >
> > Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more
> server.
> >
> > We have raised PMR to check this issue.
> >
> > Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ?
> >
> > We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to
> v8.1.18
> >
> >
> > Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we
> will see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and
> causing outage for production jobs.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Sarav
> > +65 9857 8665
>

Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Today it took more than 90 min to initiate db backup at db2 level where as 
admin schedule issues backup db command 90 min before and backup got completed. 
We will monitor closely. 

Regards 
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665


> On 29 May 2023, at 3:29 PM, David L.A. De Leeuw  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sarav
> 
> We had a similar case, just yesterday. I noticed the daily full database 
> backup schedule was missed a number of days. 
> Then I found that five days ago the daily full backup just hanged.
> Canceling the process hung as well on "pending".
> 
> I contacted our system administrator and she reported that db2 got "stuck".
> She rebooted the server, and the next backup ran as usual.
> If this repeats, we will open a PMR as well. 
> 
> Our version: 8.1.17
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> David de Leeuw
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Saravanan 
> Palanisamy
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 12:17 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours
> 
> V8.1.18 
> 
> We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn’t issue any message 
> to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung 
> 
> db2 list utilities show details - No process db2diag.log - didn’t see any 
> message like ( Starting an online db backup ) 
> 
> Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db 
> backup again hung. 
> 
> Main issue here : 
> 
> When we start tsm db backup it’s not able start and archive log became full. 
> Tried to increase archive log few times. 
> 
> We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck. 
> 
> we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and 
> running. 
> 
> Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more 
> server. 
> 
> We have raised PMR to check this issue. 
> 
> Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ? 
> 
> We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to v8.1.18 
> 
> 
> Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we will 
> see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and causing 
> outage for production jobs. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Sarav 
> +65 9857 8665

Re: TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[David L.A. De Leeuw]

Hi Sarav

We had a similar case, just yesterday. I noticed the daily full database backup 
schedule was missed a number of days. 
Then I found that five days ago the daily full backup just hanged.
Canceling the process hung as well on "pending".

I contacted our system administrator and she reported that db2 got "stuck".
She rebooted the server, and the next backup ran as usual.
If this repeats, we will open a PMR as well. 

Our version: 8.1.17

Best wishes

David de Leeuw

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Saravanan 
Palanisamy
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 12:17 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

V8.1.18 

We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn’t issue any message 
to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung 

db2 list utilities show details - No process db2diag.log - didn’t see any 
message like ( Starting an online db backup ) 

Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db backup 
again hung. 

Main issue here : 

When we start tsm db backup it’s not able start and archive log became full. 
Tried to increase archive log few times. 

We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck. 

we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and 
running. 

Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more server. 

We have raised PMR to check this issue. 

Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ? 

We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to v8.1.18 


Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we will 
see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and causing 
outage for production jobs. 


Regards
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665

TSM db backup delayed or hung for more than few hours

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

V8.1.18 

We have noticed tsm backup started at tsm level but  didn’t issue any message 
to db2 and tsm level db backup appears hung 

db2 list utilities show details - No process 
db2diag.log - didn’t see any message like ( Starting an online db backup ) 

Tried to restart tsm server to clear db2 hung process but no luck and db backup 
again hung. 

Main issue here : 

When we start tsm db backup it’s not able start and archive log became full. 
Tried to increase archive log few times. 

We tried almost 3 times ( we waited more than 1 hour ) but no luck. 

we always run db backup to clear archive log so that server will up and 
running. 

Same issue observed on last week in different server and today one more server. 

We have raised PMR to check this issue. 

Did anyone face this issue in v8.1.18 ? 

We have never seen this issue earlier but noticed after upgrade to v8.1.18 


Usually when we issue db backup command it will immediately start and we will 
see tsmdbmgr sessions in tsm server.  It looks like strange issue and causing 
outage for production jobs. 


Regards 
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665

Re: Good Bye

[Stefan Folkerts]

I've had a bit of a sneak peak into what is coming from IBM and I must say
it's the first time in a while that I got excited for what is coming from
IBM in this domain. It's a major change and I think it was needed but the
architecture means that it's very capable, at least in the datacenter, from
day 1.

Will this list cover everything within the IBM defender offering?

Regards,
Stefan

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:17 AM Del Hoobler  wrote:

> I’d love to talk to all of you about what we are doing with IBM Storage
> Defender. It’s combining the power, scale and maturity of TSM with some of
> the new capabilities that Cohesity brings to the table.
>
> But, we are taking it to a higher level. Backups are critical, but
> bringing in storage snapshots, SIEM/SOAR, alerting, data classification,
> recovery orchestration, and Ransomware scanning takes it to the next level.
>
> I started with WDSF in 1991. This is the biggest thing I have seen in data
> protection since I started with IBM.
>
> Happy to meet with you and talk about what we are doing.
>
> Del
> —
> Del Hoobler
> Principal Storage SWAT Specialist, IBM Technology, Americas
>
>
> > On May 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Zoltan Forray  wrote:
> >
> > Marcel,
> >
> > I too thought it was very interesting that IBM would collaborate with
> > Cohesity (
> >
> https://www.cohesity.com/press/ibm-and-cohesity-announce-new-data-security-and-resiliency-collaboration-advancing-enterprises-ability-to-fight-the-impacts-of-breaches-and-cyberattacks/
> ).
> > I guess the saying "*If you can't beat them.Join them*" might apply.
> >
> >> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 5:41 PM Marcel Anthonijsz <
> >> marcel.anthoni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Zoltan,
> >>
> >> "The Times They are A-Changin", I remember that saying well.. And now
> with
> >> the upcoming announcement for IBM Storage Defender I feel they
> definitely
> >> are!
> >> Thanks for your questions, your answers and the support you gave to this
> >> community.
> >>
> >> Live long and prosper!
> >>
> >> Op wo 24 mei 2023 om 22:01 schreef Zoltan Forray :
> >>
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
> >> frustrating,
> >>> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working
> with
> >>> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
> >>> past 30+ years!
> >>>
> >>> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a
> >> year
> >>> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc,
> it
> >>> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> >>> Protection" solution.
> >>>
> >>> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely
> off
> >>> ISP by the end of 2023.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> >>> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> >>> individuals here!
> >>>
> >>> SIGNING OFF
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Zoltan Forray*
> >>> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> >>> VMware Systems Administrator
> >>> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> >>> VCU Infrastructure Services
> >>> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kind Regards, Groetje, 73,
> >>
> >> Marcel Anthonijsz
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> > VMware Systems Administrator
> > Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> > VCU Infrastructure Services
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>

Re: Good Bye

[Chavdar Cholev]

Sad to see you are leaving mail list Zoltan Al the best with new
challenges

Thank you!!!
Chavdar

On Thursday, May 25, 2023, James Neal BS  wrote:

> Hi Zoltan,
>
>   This seems like the end of an era.  After all these years, it will be
> very strange not to see your insightful and helpful comments.  I remember
> the first time I saw a post from you I thought "Wow!  This guy has the
> coolest name ever!"  Best wishes to you!
>
>
> Berkeley IT 
>
> Jim Neal , Storage and Backup Administrator
>
> Data & Platform Services
> Phone: (408)348-0474 | Email: jrn...@berkeley.edu| Slack: ucbpi.slack.com
> 
>
> We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.
>
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dmitry Dukhov  wrote:
>
> > Good Luck Zoltan in other areas
> >
> > > We all will be dreaming of an open API for a TSM admin query client,
> > long after our last HALT command.
> >
> > p.s. I already wrote a simple Rest API, but no one was interested in it.
> >
> >
> > > On 25 May 2023, at 13:52, Richard Cowen 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Zoltan,
> > >
> > > Let us know how life after TSM feels.  We all will be dreaming of an
> > open API for a TSM admin query client, long after our last HALT command.
> > >
> > > Good luck in all your future endeavors.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > Richard Cowen
> > > CPP Associates
> > > 
> > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of
> > Tommaso Bollini 
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 3:15:30 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> > > Subject: [ADSM-L] R: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> > >
> > > Caution: This email originated from outside of
> > our organization. Do not open any unexpected attachments or
> > links.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your contribution Zoltan!. Best wishes for a similar
> > adventure in your new environment
> > > See you, bye.
> > >
> > > -Messaggio originale-
> > > Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Per conto di Zoltan
> > Forray
> > > Inviato: mercoledì 24 maggio 2023 22:01
> > > A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
> > frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure
> > working with DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect /
> > whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ years!
> > >
> > > But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a
> > year of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings,
> etc,
> > it was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> > Protection" solution.
> > >
> > > The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely
> > off ISP by the end of 2023.
> > >
> > > Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> > mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> > individuals here!
> > >
> > > SIGNING OFF
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Zoltan Forray*
> > > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator VMware Systems Administrator
> > Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team VCU Infrastructure Services
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> >
>

Re: Good Bye

[James Neal BS]

Hi Zoltan,

  This seems like the end of an era.  After all these years, it will be
very strange not to see your insightful and helpful comments.  I remember
the first time I saw a post from you I thought "Wow!  This guy has the
coolest name ever!"  Best wishes to you!


Berkeley IT 

Jim Neal , Storage and Backup Administrator

Data & Platform Services
Phone: (408)348-0474 | Email: jrn...@berkeley.edu| Slack: ucbpi.slack.com


We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.


On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dmitry Dukhov  wrote:

> Good Luck Zoltan in other areas
>
> > We all will be dreaming of an open API for a TSM admin query client,
> long after our last HALT command.
>
> p.s. I already wrote a simple Rest API, but no one was interested in it.
>
>
> > On 25 May 2023, at 13:52, Richard Cowen 
> wrote:
> >
> > Zoltan,
> >
> > Let us know how life after TSM feels.  We all will be dreaming of an
> open API for a TSM admin query client, long after our last HALT command.
> >
> > Good luck in all your future endeavors.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Richard Cowen
> > CPP Associates
> > 
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of
> Tommaso Bollini 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 3:15:30 AM
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] R: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> >
> > Caution: This email originated from outside of
> our organization. Do not open any unexpected attachments or
> links.
> >
> > Thanks for your contribution Zoltan!. Best wishes for a similar
> adventure in your new environment
> > See you, bye.
> >
> > -Messaggio originale-
> > Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Per conto di Zoltan
> Forray
> > Inviato: mercoledì 24 maggio 2023 22:01
> > A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
> frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure
> working with DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect /
> whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ years!
> >
> > But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a
> year of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc,
> it was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> Protection" solution.
> >
> > The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely
> off ISP by the end of 2023.
> >
> > Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> individuals here!
> >
> > SIGNING OFF
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>

Re: Good Bye

[Dmitry Dukhov]

Good Luck Zoltan in other areas

> We all will be dreaming of an open API for a TSM admin query client, long 
> after our last HALT command.

p.s. I already wrote a simple Rest API, but no one was interested in it.


> On 25 May 2023, at 13:52, Richard Cowen  wrote:
> 
> Zoltan,
> 
> Let us know how life after TSM feels.  We all will be dreaming of an open API 
> for a TSM admin query client, long after our last HALT command.
> 
> Good luck in all your future endeavors.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Richard Cowen
> CPP Associates
> 
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Tommaso 
> Bollini 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 3:15:30 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> Subject: [ADSM-L] R: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> 
> Caution: This email originated from outside of our 
> organization. Do not open any unexpected attachments or links.
> 
> Thanks for your contribution Zoltan!. Best wishes for a similar adventure in 
> your new environment
> See you, bye.
> 
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Per conto di Zoltan Forray
> Inviato: mercoledì 24 maggio 2023 22:01
> A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
> 
> Folks,
> 
> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating, 
> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with DSF 
> / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ 
> years!
> 
> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year of 
> analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it was 
> decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data Protection" 
> solution.
> 
> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off ISP 
> by the end of 2023.
> 
> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this 
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted 
> individuals here!
> 
> SIGNING OFF
> 
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator VMware Systems Administrator 
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team VCU Infrastructure Services 
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Richard Cowen]

Zoltan,

Let us know how life after TSM feels.  We all will be dreaming of an open API 
for a TSM admin query client, long after our last HALT command.

Good luck in all your future endeavors.

Richard

Richard Cowen
CPP Associates

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Tommaso 
Bollini 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 3:15:30 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [ADSM-L] R: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

Caution: This email originated from outside of our 
organization. Do not open any unexpected attachments or links.

Thanks for your contribution Zoltan!. Best wishes for a similar adventure in 
your new environment
See you, bye.

-Messaggio originale-
Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Per conto di Zoltan Forray
Inviato: mercoledì 24 maggio 2023 22:01
A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

Folks,

It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating, 
exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with DSF / 
ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ 
years!

But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year of 
analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it was 
decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data Protection" 
solution.

The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off ISP 
by the end of 2023.

Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this mailing-list/forums 
contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted individuals here!

SIGNING OFF

--
*Zoltan Forray*
Enterprise Data Protection Administrator VMware Systems Administrator 
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team VCU Infrastructure Services 
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

R: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

[Tommaso Bollini]

Thanks for your contribution Zoltan!. Best wishes for a similar adventure in 
your new environment
See you, bye.

-Messaggio originale-
Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Per conto di Zoltan Forray
Inviato: mercoledì 24 maggio 2023 22:01
A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

Folks,

It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating, 
exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with DSF / 
ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ 
years!

But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year of 
analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it was 
decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data Protection" 
solution.

The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off ISP 
by the end of 2023.

Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this mailing-list/forums 
contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted individuals here!

SIGNING OFF

--
*Zoltan Forray*
Enterprise Data Protection Administrator VMware Systems Administrator 
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team VCU Infrastructure Services 
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Del Hoobler]

I’d love to talk to all of you about what we are doing with IBM Storage 
Defender. It’s combining the power, scale and maturity of TSM with some of the 
new capabilities that Cohesity brings to the table. 

But, we are taking it to a higher level. Backups are critical, but bringing in 
storage snapshots, SIEM/SOAR, alerting, data classification, recovery 
orchestration, and Ransomware scanning takes it to the next level.

I started with WDSF in 1991. This is the biggest thing I have seen in data 
protection since I started with IBM.

Happy to meet with you and talk about what we are doing. 

Del
—
Del Hoobler
Principal Storage SWAT Specialist, IBM Technology, Americas


> On May 24, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Zoltan Forray  wrote:
> 
> Marcel,
> 
> I too thought it was very interesting that IBM would collaborate with
> Cohesity (
> https://www.cohesity.com/press/ibm-and-cohesity-announce-new-data-security-and-resiliency-collaboration-advancing-enterprises-ability-to-fight-the-impacts-of-breaches-and-cyberattacks/
>  ).
> I guess the saying "*If you can't beat them.Join them*" might apply.
> 
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 5:41 PM Marcel Anthonijsz <
>> marcel.anthoni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Zoltan,
>> 
>> "The Times They are A-Changin", I remember that saying well.. And now with
>> the upcoming announcement for IBM Storage Defender I feel they definitely
>> are!
>> Thanks for your questions, your answers and the support you gave to this
>> community.
>> 
>> Live long and prosper!
>> 
>> Op wo 24 mei 2023 om 22:01 schreef Zoltan Forray :
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
>> frustrating,
>>> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
>>> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
>>> past 30+ years!
>>> 
>>> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a
>> year
>>> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
>>> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
>>> Protection" solution.
>>> 
>>> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
>>> ISP by the end of 2023.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
>>> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
>>> individuals here!
>>> 
>>> SIGNING OFF
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Zoltan Forray*
>>> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
>>> VMware Systems Administrator
>>> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
>>> VCU Infrastructure Services
>>> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Kind Regards, Groetje, 73,
>> 
>> Marcel Anthonijsz
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Zoltan Forray]

Marcel,

I too thought it was very interesting that IBM would collaborate with
Cohesity (
https://www.cohesity.com/press/ibm-and-cohesity-announce-new-data-security-and-resiliency-collaboration-advancing-enterprises-ability-to-fight-the-impacts-of-breaches-and-cyberattacks/).
I guess the saying "*If you can't beat them.Join them*" might apply.

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 5:41 PM Marcel Anthonijsz <
marcel.anthoni...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Zoltan,
>
> "The Times They are A-Changin", I remember that saying well.. And now with
> the upcoming announcement for IBM Storage Defender I feel they definitely
> are!
> Thanks for your questions, your answers and the support you gave to this
> community.
>
> Live long and prosper!
>
> Op wo 24 mei 2023 om 22:01 schreef Zoltan Forray :
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
> frustrating,
> > exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
> > DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
> > past 30+ years!
> >
> > But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a
> year
> > of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
> > was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> > Protection" solution.
> >
> > The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
> > ISP by the end of 2023.
> >
> > Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> > mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> > individuals here!
> >
> > SIGNING OFF
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> > VMware Systems Administrator
> > Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> > VCU Infrastructure Services
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> >
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards, Groetje, 73,
>
> Marcel Anthonijsz
>


-- 
*Zoltan Forray*
Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
VMware Systems Administrator
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
VCU Infrastructure Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Marcel Anthonijsz]

 Zoltan,

"The Times They are A-Changin", I remember that saying well.. And now with
the upcoming announcement for IBM Storage Defender I feel they definitely
are!
Thanks for your questions, your answers and the support you gave to this
community.

Live long and prosper!

Op wo 24 mei 2023 om 22:01 schreef Zoltan Forray :

> Folks,
>
> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,
> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
> past 30+ years!
>
> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year
> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> Protection" solution.
>
> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
> ISP by the end of 2023.
>
> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> individuals here!
>
> SIGNING OFF
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>


--
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Marcel Anthonijsz

Re: Good Bye

[Zoltan Forray]

Thank you and the same to you...

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 5:00 PM Bruno, Jeanne  wrote:

> Wishing you good health, good luck & good fortune.  Rock on!
> And thanks for the TSM help over the years.
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan
> Forray
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:01 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] Good Bye
>
> Folks, It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating,
> frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure
> working with DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect /
> whatever-the-new-name-is, for the past 30+ years!
>
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,
>
> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
>
> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
>
> past 30+ years!
>
>
>
> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year
>
> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
>
> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
>
> Protection" solution.
>
>
>
> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
>
> ISP by the end of 2023.
>
>
>
> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
>
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
>
> individuals here!
>
>
>
> SIGNING OFF
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Zoltan Forray*
>
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
>
> VMware Systems Administrator
>
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
>
> VCU Infrastructure Services
>
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>


-- 
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Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
VMware Systems Administrator
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
VCU Infrastructure Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Zoltan Forray]

Thanks!

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 4:10 PM Rick Adamson 
wrote:

> Good Luck Zoltan !
>
>
> -Rick Adamson
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan
> Forray
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:01 PM
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>
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> frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure
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> Folks,
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>
> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,
>
> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
>
> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
>
> past 30+ years!
>
>
>
> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year
>
> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
>
> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
>
> Protection" solution.
>
>
>
> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
>
> ISP by the end of 2023.
>
>
>
> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
>
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
>
> individuals here!
>
>
>
> SIGNING OFF
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Zoltan Forray*
>
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
>
> VMware Systems Administrator
>
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
>
> VCU Infrastructure Services
>
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>
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VCU Infrastructure Services
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Re: Good Bye

[Skylar Thompson]

Glad to have had you as a TSM colleague across the continent! Good luck
with whatever comes next.

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 04:01:04PM -0400, Zoltan Forray wrote:
> Folks,
>
> It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,
> exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
> DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
> past 30+ years!
>
> But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year
> of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
> was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
> Protection" solution.
>
> The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
> ISP by the end of 2023.
>
> Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
> mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
> individuals here!
>
> SIGNING OFF
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

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Re: Good Bye

[Bruno, Jeanne]

Wishing you good health, good luck & good fortune.  Rock on!
And thanks for the TSM help over the years.

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:01 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

Folks, It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, 
frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure 
working with DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, 
for the past 30+ years!


Folks,



It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,

exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with

DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the

past 30+ years!



But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year

of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it

was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data

Protection" solution.



The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off

ISP by the end of 2023.



Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this

mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted

individuals here!



SIGNING OFF



--

*Zoltan Forray*

Enterprise Data Protection Administrator

VMware Systems Administrator

Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team

VCU Infrastructure Services

zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: Good Bye

[Rick Adamson]

Good Luck Zoltan !


-Rick Adamson

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:01 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Good Bye

Folks, It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, 
frustrating, exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure 
working with DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, 
for the past 30+ years!
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It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,

exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with

DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the

past 30+ years!



But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year

of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it

was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data

Protection" solution.



The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off

ISP by the end of 2023.



Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this

mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted

individuals here!



SIGNING OFF



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*Zoltan Forray*

Enterprise Data Protection Administrator

VMware Systems Administrator

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VCU Infrastructure Services

zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

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Good Bye

[Zoltan Forray]

Folks,

It has been a fun, wild, sometimes entertaining, exasperating, frustrating,
exhausting (insert your adjective/adverb) learning adventure working with
DSF / ADSM / TSM / Spectrum Protect / whatever-the-new-name-is, for the
past 30+ years!

But, as they say, "*The Times They Are A-Changin*". After more than a year
of analysis, comparisons, discussions, demonstrations, meetings, etc, it
was decided to transition away from IBM/ISP to a new "Enterprise Data
Protection" solution.

The transition is well underway and we expect to (must) be completely off
ISP by the end of 2023.

Thank you for all the support I/we have received from this
mailing-list/forums contributors.  There are some truly stellar, gifted
individuals here!

SIGNING OFF

--
*Zoltan Forray*
Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
VMware Systems Administrator
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
VCU Infrastructure Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

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[Bjørn Nachtwey]

Bjoern Nachtwey

Re: How to empty a deduped FILE DEVclass stgpool

[Zoltan Forray]

Thanks for the reply. We have tried every kind of option/migration/move
nodedata/reclaim/consolidate aggregates/audit stgpool/audit volume, etc, to
no avail.   We are about to go the "nuclear option" and hard delete the
volume!

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 5:01 AM Josh-Daniel Davis  wrote:

> Did you try with both RECONSTRUCT=YES and RECONSTRUCT=NO ?
>
> Sometimes I have had to do that to get stubborn aggregates to move.
>
> Also, what's the reusedelay on the pool?  Sometimes resetting this can
> help.
>
> Lastly, I had a lot of stuck data that wouldn't go away, and 8.1.17.100
> seemed to allow data to be fully purged.  It was cloud containers, which is
> a whole different stack, but who knows.  8.1.17.100 was pretty stable for
> us other than replication storage rules.
>
> Worst case, DEL VOL DISCARDDATA=YES is always a sad option.
>
> With friendly Regards,
> Josh-Daniel S. Davis
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 9:30 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
>
> > We have an old Powervault that is having too many hardware issues
> (5-disks
> > replaced in the past 2-weeks) and are trying to retire it.  It was being
> > used as a low-activity (nextstgpool after offsite copies have been
> > created), deduped FILE DEVclass.
> >
> > We have emptied it down to a few remaining volumes but can not get rid of
> > those last 4-volumes.  We have performed dozens of "move data" (both to a
> > different stgpool and same stgpool) "move nodedata", reclaim stgpool, etc
> > but we always end up with messages like:
> >
> > 3/8/2023 10:19:15 AM ANR3246W Process 28246 skipped 2 files on volume
> > /powervault_pool_2/00061E69.BFS because the files have been *deleted*.
> >
> > and nothing being moved.  Tried marking all volumes as READONLY but the
> > moves simply recreated the existing volumes with the same
> unmovable/deleted
> > objects.
> >
> > We have tried with both reconstructaggregates YES and NO.
> >
> > Occupancy by node shows crazy numbers (currently says this stgpool has a
> > total *5.8TB* occupancy but only 4-partially used 120GB volumes remain).
> >
> > Tried running "restore stgpool preview=yes" with nothing to restore.
> > Tried audit volume fix=no - again with nothing to fix!
> >
> > So what is the magic trick to completely empty this stgpool?
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> > VMware Systems Administrator
> > Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> > VCU Infrastructure Services
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> >
>


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Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
VMware Systems Administrator
Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
VCU Infrastructure Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807

Re: REPAIR OCCUPANCY

[Zoltan Forray]

Thanks for the reply.  We have run REPAIR OCCUPANCY numerous times now and
it has "adjusted" total reporting occupancy by* -100TB*.  This is very
concerning since our IBM license is storage/TB based and 100TB makes a lot
of difference/required us to increase our license.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 5:02 AM Josh-Daniel Davis  wrote:

> I mean, it's formally in a whitepaper from 2018,
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/repair-occupancy-repair-reporting-occupancy-storage-pool
>
> and dsmserv was updated in 2021 to allow this to run on a container pool.
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/IT15373
>
> It's not normal maintenance, but for a server that's been around a long
> time, it should be fine to run it.
> Just make sure you're not running expire, replicate, client backups, and
> ideally not a DBB at the same time.
>
> With friendly Regards,
> Josh-Daniel S. Davis
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:01 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
>
> > Linux Server 8.1.14.200
> >
> > Looking for feedback on this "undocumented" (i.e. not in a book but
> readily
> > available via Google search) command.
> >
> > We have been seeing lots of wacky occupancy numbers, issues with nodes
> > reporting something in stgpools that are empty, etc.  I stumbled upon
> > REPAIR OCCUPANCY and it has corrected a lot of occupancy reporting
> issues.
> >
> > So far running it against 3-nodes has reduced "reporting occupancy" by
> over
> > 10TB.  This is disconcerting since we do billing via occupancy numbers
> and
> > this will make all of the numbers questionable!
> >
> > My question is, how safe is this command?  Does anyone else run REPAIR
> > OCCUPANCY and if so, how frequently?
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> > VMware Systems Administrator
> > Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> > VCU Infrastructure Services
> > zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> > <
> >
> https://www.credly.com/badges/131d9645-79f0-49ec-9f29-41f15900dca7/public_url
> > >
> >
>


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VCU Infrastructure Services
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Re: Hot add Transport for restore virtual machine

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Thanks Richard. Backup was working well in hotadd as VADP host resides on
same data store.

I just doubt whether hotadd transport supported for restore vm though we
place VADP host in the same data store .

We tried to enable SAN policy as Online in VADP host  but it didn’t help.

Just wondering anyone used hotadd transport for restore because when we
restore using hot add it didn’t progress anything.



On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 at 8:35 PM, Elberse, R.H.L. (Richard) <
r.elbe...@rocmn.nl> wrote:

> Hi Sarav,
>
> The datastore must be available to the host on which the datamover is
> restoring the vm.
> DSM.OPT should not have a setting that rules out using hotadd.
> There may be other options that may cause the hotadd restore not being
> used.
>
> Richard
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Namens Saravanan
> Palanisamy
> Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2023 13:55
> Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Hot add Transport for restore virtual machine
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> Is there any additional settings required to enable hotadd transport while
> restoring vm using TSM for VE ( VADP host is virtual machine )?
>
> Regards
> Sarav
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Re: Hot add Transport for restore virtual machine

[Elberse, R.H.L. (Richard)]

Hi Sarav,

The datastore must be available to the host on which the datamover is restoring 
the vm.
DSM.OPT should not have a setting that rules out using hotadd.
There may be other options that may cause the hotadd restore not being used.

Richard

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  Namens Saravanan Palanisamy
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2023 13:55
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Hot add Transport for restore virtual machine

Hi Everyone

Is there any additional settings required to enable hotadd transport while 
restoring vm using TSM for VE ( VADP host is virtual machine )?

Regards
Sarav
+65 9857 8665

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bekende virussen.

Hot add Transport for restore virtual machine

[Saravanan Palanisamy]

Hi Everyone 

Is there any additional settings required to enable hotadd transport while 
restoring vm using TSM for VE ( VADP host is virtual machine )? 

Regards 
Sarav 
+65 9857 8665

Re: REPAIR OCCUPANCY

[Josh-Daniel Davis]

I mean, it's formally in a whitepaper from 2018,
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/repair-occupancy-repair-reporting-occupancy-storage-pool

and dsmserv was updated in 2021 to allow this to run on a container pool.
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/IT15373

It's not normal maintenance, but for a server that's been around a long
time, it should be fine to run it.
Just make sure you're not running expire, replicate, client backups, and
ideally not a DBB at the same time.

With friendly Regards,
Josh-Daniel S. Davis



On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:01 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:

> Linux Server 8.1.14.200
>
> Looking for feedback on this "undocumented" (i.e. not in a book but readily
> available via Google search) command.
>
> We have been seeing lots of wacky occupancy numbers, issues with nodes
> reporting something in stgpools that are empty, etc.  I stumbled upon
> REPAIR OCCUPANCY and it has corrected a lot of occupancy reporting issues.
>
> So far running it against 3-nodes has reduced "reporting occupancy" by over
> 10TB.  This is disconcerting since we do billing via occupancy numbers and
> this will make all of the numbers questionable!
>
> My question is, how safe is this command?  Does anyone else run REPAIR
> OCCUPANCY and if so, how frequently?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
> <
> https://www.credly.com/badges/131d9645-79f0-49ec-9f29-41f15900dca7/public_url
> >
>

Re: How to empty a deduped FILE DEVclass stgpool

[Josh-Daniel Davis]

Did you try with both RECONSTRUCT=YES and RECONSTRUCT=NO ?

Sometimes I have had to do that to get stubborn aggregates to move.

Also, what's the reusedelay on the pool?  Sometimes resetting this can help.

Lastly, I had a lot of stuck data that wouldn't go away, and 8.1.17.100
seemed to allow data to be fully purged.  It was cloud containers, which is
a whole different stack, but who knows.  8.1.17.100 was pretty stable for
us other than replication storage rules.

Worst case, DEL VOL DISCARDDATA=YES is always a sad option.

With friendly Regards,
Josh-Daniel S. Davis



On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 9:30 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:

> We have an old Powervault that is having too many hardware issues (5-disks
> replaced in the past 2-weeks) and are trying to retire it.  It was being
> used as a low-activity (nextstgpool after offsite copies have been
> created), deduped FILE DEVclass.
>
> We have emptied it down to a few remaining volumes but can not get rid of
> those last 4-volumes.  We have performed dozens of "move data" (both to a
> different stgpool and same stgpool) "move nodedata", reclaim stgpool, etc
> but we always end up with messages like:
>
> 3/8/2023 10:19:15 AM ANR3246W Process 28246 skipped 2 files on volume
> /powervault_pool_2/00061E69.BFS because the files have been *deleted*.
>
> and nothing being moved.  Tried marking all volumes as READONLY but the
> moves simply recreated the existing volumes with the same unmovable/deleted
> objects.
>
> We have tried with both reconstructaggregates YES and NO.
>
> Occupancy by node shows crazy numbers (currently says this stgpool has a
> total *5.8TB* occupancy but only 4-partially used 120GB volumes remain).
>
> Tried running "restore stgpool preview=yes" with nothing to restore.
> Tried audit volume fix=no - again with nothing to fix!
>
> So what is the magic trick to completely empty this stgpool?
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Enterprise Data Protection Administrator
> VMware Systems Administrator
> Enterprise Compute & Storage Platforms Team
> VCU Infrastructure Services
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
>

dsmserv 8.1.18 connection latency

[Josh-Daniel Davis]

Anyone else running into connection latency on 8.1.18?

We were at 8.1.17.008 and 8.1.17.100, and came to 8.1.18.0 due to some
rollup locking patches (vs going to 8.1.17.015).

Now, we have pretty substantial hangs for client and dsmadmc connections.
During our normal backup window, it gets bad enough that SSL initialization
fails, and we end up with a lot of TDP failures (especially TDPO because of
how many sessions they create).

All the way back at 8.1.6 in 2018, we bumped our maxsessions to 1200
because we'd bump up against 800.  We've been okay since then, and until
the 8.1.18 update.  Now, at around 400 sessions, a new dsmadmc session from
localhost can take 2-3 minutes to prompt for password.

Verified it's not a DNS timeout.  Turned off DNSLOOKUP and no change.

Not a server specific thing.  We have a large number of AIX servers in more
than one datacenter, and we have the same issue on both.  We have the same
issue connecting to localhost.  Servers with fewer clients are better off.

AIX 7.2.5.5, 250GB of RAM, 20x POWER8 cores, full system partition.  CPU
peak is 45-55%, and the system is very responsive.  Peak network is now
around 550MB/sec.  I'm pretty sure we were more than double that before.
Lots of 10gbit ports.  Only 2% RAM free, but no paging activity, and
numclient is still 12% with a good number of LRUable pages.

No ssh latency.  No lag at the db2 layer.  DB is 3.6TB, but it's heavily
fragmented, and probably more like 2.8TB used if we did an offline reorg.
No DBB, expire, reclaim, etc. running during the backup window.  I do see
an automatic runstats on SD_CHUNK_LOCATIONS.

Anyway, we have a case with IBM, and are slogging through different trace
attempts.  It's just been an issue long enough, I was hoping to get some
commiseration if anyone else has noticed anything similar.

With friendly Regards,
Josh-Daniel S. Davis

Re: Microsoft SQL Server 2022

[Mike Dile]

DP SQL supports SQL 2022 as of 8.1.17.1.  See 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-spectrum-protect%E2%84%A2-databases-all-requirements-documents

Mike Dile
Program Director, IBM Storage Defender
+1 408.891.0902 Mobile
+1 408.927.2082 Office
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IBM

Microsoft SQL Server 2022

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

A question for the people from IBM on this list: what are the plans for 
Spectrum Protect for Databases when it comes to supporting Microsoft SQL Server 
2022?
Thanks for any reply in advance!

Groeten,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra

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REPAIR OCCUPANCY

[Zoltan Forray]

Linux Server 8.1.14.200

Looking for feedback on this "undocumented" (i.e. not in a book but readily
available via Google search) command.

We have been seeing lots of wacky occupancy numbers, issues with nodes
reporting something in stgpools that are empty, etc.  I stumbled upon
REPAIR OCCUPANCY and it has corrected a lot of occupancy reporting issues.

So far running it against 3-nodes has reduced "reporting occupancy" by over
10TB.  This is disconcerting since we do billing via occupancy numbers and
this will make all of the numbers questionable!

My question is, how safe is this command?  Does anyone else run REPAIR
OCCUPANCY and if so, how frequently?

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How to empty a deduped FILE DEVclass stgpool

[Zoltan Forray]

We have an old Powervault that is having too many hardware issues (5-disks
replaced in the past 2-weeks) and are trying to retire it.  It was being
used as a low-activity (nextstgpool after offsite copies have been
created), deduped FILE DEVclass.

We have emptied it down to a few remaining volumes but can not get rid of
those last 4-volumes.  We have performed dozens of "move data" (both to a
different stgpool and same stgpool) "move nodedata", reclaim stgpool, etc
but we always end up with messages like:

3/8/2023 10:19:15 AM ANR3246W Process 28246 skipped 2 files on volume
/powervault_pool_2/00061E69.BFS because the files have been *deleted*.

and nothing being moved.  Tried marking all volumes as READONLY but the
moves simply recreated the existing volumes with the same unmovable/deleted
objects.

We have tried with both reconstructaggregates YES and NO.

Occupancy by node shows crazy numbers (currently says this stgpool has a
total *5.8TB* occupancy but only 4-partially used 120GB volumes remain).

Tried running "restore stgpool preview=yes" with nothing to restore.
Tried audit volume fix=no - again with nothing to fix!

So what is the magic trick to completely empty this stgpool?
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Re: Listing all nodes without filespaces

[Skylar Thompson]

Hi Eric,

This should work:

select n.node_name from nodes n left join filespaces f on 
n.node_name=f.node_name where f.node_name is null

On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 02:49:20PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> On one of my servers I'm trying to generate a list of nodes without 
> filespaces. I know for sure such node exist:
>
> Protect: >q files LH-PPPC01-DB
> ANR2034E QUERY FILESPACE: No match found using this criteria.
> ANS8001I Return code 11.
>
> But if I try to generate this list through a SQL query, it returns no nodes:
>
> Protect: >select node_name from nodes where node_name not in (select 
> node_name from filespaces)
> ANR2034E SELECT: No match found using this criteria.
> ANS8001I Return code 11.
>
> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong here, has anybody an idea? Thanks for 
> your help in advance!
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Core Infra
>
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Re: Listing all nodes without filespaces

[Arthur J Roy]

Hi Eric,

Try this:


select node_name from nodes where node_name not in (select node_name from 
filespaces where node_name is not null)


Regards,
Art


From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  on behalf of Loon, Eric 
van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
Date: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 9:52 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ADSM-L] Listing all nodes without filespaces
Hi everybody,

On one of my servers I'm trying to generate a list of nodes without filespaces. 
I know for sure such node exist:

Protect: >q files LH-PPPC01-DB
ANR2034E QUERY FILESPACE: No match found using this criteria.
ANS8001I Return code 11.

But if I try to generate this list through a SQL query, it returns no nodes:

Protect: >select node_name from nodes where node_name not in (select node_name 
from filespaces)
ANR2034E SELECT: No match found using this criteria.
ANS8001I Return code 11.

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong here, has anybody an idea? Thanks for 
your help in advance!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra


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Listing all nodes without filespaces

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

On one of my servers I'm trying to generate a list of nodes without filespaces. 
I know for sure such node exist:

Protect: >q files LH-PPPC01-DB
ANR2034E QUERY FILESPACE: No match found using this criteria.
ANS8001I Return code 11.

But if I try to generate this list through a SQL query, it returns no nodes:

Protect: >select node_name from nodes where node_name not in (select node_name 
from filespaces)
ANR2034E SELECT: No match found using this criteria.
ANS8001I Return code 11.

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong here, has anybody an idea? Thanks for 
your help in advance!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Core Infra


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Re: Removing tape devices

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Skylar,

The issue was fixed after a reboot. Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
Thompson
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2023 17:19
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Removing tape devices

Can you confirm that the serial_num attribute that udev sees matches the 
contents of /proc/scsi/IBMtape?

udevadm info --attribute-walk --name /dev/IBMtape5|grep serial_num

If it does, you might try restarting udevd, though I've had to resort to reboot 
when udev just doesn't want to notice that something has changed.

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 04:14:33PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi Skylar,
>
> Yes, all drives are LTO drives (SAN attached). I tried your procedure, but 
> it's not working. The six tape devices are all actually there:
>
> # ls -al /dev/IBMtap*
> crw--- 1 root root 235,0 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1024 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,1 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1025 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,2 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1026 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,3 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1027 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,4 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1028 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,5 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1029 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5n
>
> But one persistent named device is just not created:
>
> # ls -l /dev/lin_tape/by-id/
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb  2 17:04 changer0 -> ../../IBMchanger4 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive1 -> ../../IBMtape5 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive2 -> ../../IBMtape2 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive3 -> ../../IBMtape3 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive4 -> ../../IBMtape0 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive5 -> ../../IBMtape4
>
> I'm missing drive6 for some reason. I double-checked the serials in the 
> 98-lin_tape.rules file and compared them to the output of the cat 
> /proc/scsi/IBMtape command and they are all correct...
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> Skylar Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:56
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Removing tape devices
>
> Are these all IBM LTO drives using the lin_tape driver? My experience 
> on
> RHEL7 w/ FC-attached drives is that the devices show up automatically, though 
> I can't remember if it removes them if the drive falls off the fabric. I 
> suspect not, just so that a transient problem doesn't leave the system in an 
> inconsistent state. You might try unloading the kernel module to get rid of 
> the devices:
>
> modprobe -r lin_tape
>
> And then ask udev to reprocess its rules and clean up device links it 
> can't
> find:
>
> udevadm trigger
>
> That assumes the WWNs of the drives in your udev rules don't need updating.
>
> At that point, you ought to be able to re-load lin_tape:
>
> modprobe lin_tape
>
> If you're having trouble getting the drives to show up afterwards, you might 
> try a FC LIP:
>
> echo 1 > /sys/class/fc_host/hostX/issue_lip
>
> Followed by a SCSI rescan:
>
> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostN/scan
>
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 03:38:21PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
> wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I'm having some issues with missing persistent names after a HBA 
> > replacement on a Linux server. I like to remove all tape devices, so all 
> > /dev/IBMTape*, all /dev/lin_tape/by-id/drive* devices and the SCSI devices. 
> > What is the proper way to do that in Linux?
> > Afterwards, I like to run a SCSI rescan to have everything redefined, so I 
> > can start with a clean sheet.
> > Thanks for any help in advance!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Eric van Loon
> > Air France/KLM
> > 
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> >
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Re: Removing tape devices

[Skylar Thompson]

Can you confirm that the serial_num attribute that udev sees matches the
contents of /proc/scsi/IBMtape?

udevadm info --attribute-walk --name /dev/IBMtape5|grep serial_num

If it does, you might try restarting udevd, though I've had to resort to
reboot when udev just doesn't want to notice that something has changed.

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 04:14:33PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi Skylar,
>
> Yes, all drives are LTO drives (SAN attached). I tried your procedure, but 
> it's not working. The six tape devices are all actually there:
>
> # ls -al /dev/IBMtap*
> crw--- 1 root root 235,0 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1024 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,1 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1025 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,2 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1026 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,3 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1027 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,4 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1028 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4n
> crw--- 1 root root 235,5 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5
> crw--- 1 root root 235, 1029 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5n
>
> But one persistent named device is just not created:
>
> # ls -l /dev/lin_tape/by-id/
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb  2 17:04 changer0 -> ../../IBMchanger4
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive1 -> ../../IBMtape5
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive2 -> ../../IBMtape2
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive3 -> ../../IBMtape3
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive4 -> ../../IBMtape0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive5 -> ../../IBMtape4
>
> I'm missing drive6 for some reason. I double-checked the serials in the 
> 98-lin_tape.rules file and compared them to the output of the cat 
> /proc/scsi/IBMtape command and they are all correct...
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
> Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:56
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Removing tape devices
>
> Are these all IBM LTO drives using the lin_tape driver? My experience on
> RHEL7 w/ FC-attached drives is that the devices show up automatically, though 
> I can't remember if it removes them if the drive falls off the fabric. I 
> suspect not, just so that a transient problem doesn't leave the system in an 
> inconsistent state. You might try unloading the kernel module to get rid of 
> the devices:
>
> modprobe -r lin_tape
>
> And then ask udev to reprocess its rules and clean up device links it can't
> find:
>
> udevadm trigger
>
> That assumes the WWNs of the drives in your udev rules don't need updating.
>
> At that point, you ought to be able to re-load lin_tape:
>
> modprobe lin_tape
>
> If you're having trouble getting the drives to show up afterwards, you might 
> try a FC LIP:
>
> echo 1 > /sys/class/fc_host/hostX/issue_lip
>
> Followed by a SCSI rescan:
>
> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostN/scan
>
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 03:38:21PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM 
> wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I'm having some issues with missing persistent names after a HBA 
> > replacement on a Linux server. I like to remove all tape devices, so all 
> > /dev/IBMTape*, all /dev/lin_tape/by-id/drive* devices and the SCSI devices. 
> > What is the proper way to do that in Linux?
> > Afterwards, I like to run a SCSI rescan to have everything redefined, so I 
> > can start with a clean sheet.
> > Thanks for any help in advance!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Eric van Loon
> > Air France/KLM
> > 
> > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: 
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.klm.com__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!mj3-YqICmARjV6b_WPIXbqoM-r_YP44rh-TgAQqwCFuCBlztgWcHLVxjPSTXJa99xAcg2QUJQVSJle1GprJKpQ$
> >  . This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged 
> > material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you 
> > are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, 
> > copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or 
> > attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have 
> > received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by 
> > return e-mail, and delete this message.
> >
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> > employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission 
> > of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt.
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> > Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The 

Re: Removing tape devices

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi Skylar,

Yes, all drives are LTO drives (SAN attached). I tried your procedure, but it's 
not working. The six tape devices are all actually there:

# ls -al /dev/IBMtap*
crw--- 1 root root 235,0 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1024 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape0n
crw--- 1 root root 235,1 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1025 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape1n
crw--- 1 root root 235,2 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1026 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape2n
crw--- 1 root root 235,3 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1027 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape3n
crw--- 1 root root 235,4 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1028 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape4n
crw--- 1 root root 235,5 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5
crw--- 1 root root 235, 1029 Feb  2 17:04 /dev/IBMtape5n

But one persistent named device is just not created:

# ls -l /dev/lin_tape/by-id/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb  2 17:04 changer0 -> ../../IBMchanger4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive1 -> ../../IBMtape5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive2 -> ../../IBMtape2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive3 -> ../../IBMtape3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive4 -> ../../IBMtape0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb  2 17:04 drive5 -> ../../IBMtape4

I'm missing drive6 for some reason. I double-checked the serials in the 
98-lin_tape.rules file and compared them to the output of the cat 
/proc/scsi/IBMtape command and they are all correct...
Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Skylar 
Thompson
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:56
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Removing tape devices

Are these all IBM LTO drives using the lin_tape driver? My experience on
RHEL7 w/ FC-attached drives is that the devices show up automatically, though I 
can't remember if it removes them if the drive falls off the fabric. I suspect 
not, just so that a transient problem doesn't leave the system in an 
inconsistent state. You might try unloading the kernel module to get rid of the 
devices:

modprobe -r lin_tape

And then ask udev to reprocess its rules and clean up device links it can't
find:

udevadm trigger

That assumes the WWNs of the drives in your udev rules don't need updating.

At that point, you ought to be able to re-load lin_tape:

modprobe lin_tape

If you're having trouble getting the drives to show up afterwards, you might 
try a FC LIP:

echo 1 > /sys/class/fc_host/hostX/issue_lip

Followed by a SCSI rescan:

echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostN/scan

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 03:38:21PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm having some issues with missing persistent names after a HBA replacement 
> on a Linux server. I like to remove all tape devices, so all /dev/IBMTape*, 
> all /dev/lin_tape/by-id/drive* devices and the SCSI devices. What is the 
> proper way to do that in Linux?
> Afterwards, I like to run a SCSI rescan to have everything redefined, so I 
> can start with a clean sheet.
> Thanks for any help in advance!
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM
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Re: Removing tape devices

[Skylar Thompson]

Are these all IBM LTO drives using the lin_tape driver? My experience on
RHEL7 w/ FC-attached drives is that the devices show up automatically,
though I can't remember if it removes them if the drive falls off the
fabric. I suspect not, just so that a transient problem doesn't leave the
system in an inconsistent state. You might try unloading the kernel module
to get rid of the devices:

modprobe -r lin_tape

And then ask udev to reprocess its rules and clean up device links it can't
find:

udevadm trigger

That assumes the WWNs of the drives in your udev rules don't need updating.

At that point, you ought to be able to re-load lin_tape:

modprobe lin_tape

If you're having trouble getting the drives to show up afterwards, you
might try a FC LIP:

echo 1 > /sys/class/fc_host/hostX/issue_lip

Followed by a SCSI rescan:

echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostN/scan

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 03:38:21PM +, Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm having some issues with missing persistent names after a HBA replacement 
> on a Linux server. I like to remove all tape devices, so all /dev/IBMTape*, 
> all /dev/lin_tape/by-id/drive* devices and the SCSI devices. What is the 
> proper way to do that in Linux?
> Afterwards, I like to run a SCSI rescan to have everything redefined, so I 
> can start with a clean sheet.
> Thanks for any help in advance!
>
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM
> 
> For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: 
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Removing tape devices

[Loon, Eric van (ITOP DI) - KLM]

Hi everybody,

I'm having some issues with missing persistent names after a HBA replacement on 
a Linux server. I like to remove all tape devices, so all /dev/IBMTape*, all 
/dev/lin_tape/by-id/drive* devices and the SCSI devices. What is the proper way 
to do that in Linux?
Afterwards, I like to run a SCSI rescan to have everything redefined, so I can 
start with a clean sheet.
Thanks for any help in advance!

Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM

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Re: Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

[Andrew Raibeck]

Hi Bent,

It sounds like a good idea to open a support case. Suggestion for doc you can 
collect in advance:

1. Add these options to the dsm.opt file:

  TRACEFLAGS SERVICE
  TRACEFILE C:\somedir\client_trace.txt

You can choose any valid file path for "C:\somedir\client_trace.txt".

2. Run the "dsmc restore ..." command and redirect stdout and stderr to a file. 
If you can reproduce it with a small directory, that will help keep the trace 
file from growing too large. For example:

  dsmc restore C:\mydata\ -subdir=yes > dsmc_restore.txt 2>&1

3. Collect the trace file, dsmc_restore.txt, and dsmerror.log, and submit them 
when you open the case.

I am not sure what causes the ANS0128S in this case. That message is issued 
several seconds after the ANSE, so I do not know if the messages are 
related to each other. If you can capture that in a trace, that might be 
insightful.

To collect documentation for several concurrent dsmc processes, you can do 
something like this:

  dsmc restore C:\mydata1\ -subdir=yes -traceflags=service 
-tracefile=C:\somedir\client_trace_1.txt > dsmc_restore_1.txt 2>&1
  dsmc restore C:\mydata2\ -subdir=yes -traceflags=service 
-tracefile=C:\somedir\client_trace_2.txt > dsmc_restore_2.txt 2>&1
  dsmc restore C:\mydata3\ -subdir=yes -traceflags=service 
-tracefile=C:\somedir\client_trace_3.txt > dsmc_restore_3.txt 2>&1
  dsmc restore C:\mydata4\ -subdir=yes -traceflags=service 
-tracefile=C:\somedir\client_trace_4.txt > dsmc_restore_4.txt 2>&1

Use your normal "dsmc restore" syntax, but add the -traceflags options, the 
-tracefile option, and output redirection as in the preceding examples.

Finally, based on the info you shared, I suggest you try the restore with this 
option:

  TESTFLAGS CONTINUEWITHUNKNOWNRC

See if that allows the restore to run to completion, skipping past the invalid 
files.

Best regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Spectrum Protect Level 3
IBM Storage
stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Bent 
Christensen (BVC)
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January, 2023 09:32
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your response and suggestion.

I have been using the weekend to dig a little deeper into the issue, and it 
turns out that if I just restore the folder containing the infected file, TSM 
restores all other files and just responds with a:

01/19/2023 15:58:57 ANSE ..\..\common\winnt\ntrc.cpp(784): Received Win32 
RC 225 (0x00e1) from HlClose(): CreateFile. Error description: Operation 
did not complete successfully because the file contains a virus or potentially 
unwanted software.

But if I run 3-4 or more DSMC RESTORE sessions simultaneously the session which 
has the infected file terminates with this in DSMERROR.LOG:
01/18/2023 17:27:31 ANSE ..\..\common\winnt\ntrc.cpp(784): Received Win32 
RC 225 (0x00e1) from HlClose(): CreateFile. Error description: Operation 
did not complete successfully because the file contains a virus or potentially 
unwanted software.
01/18/2023 17:27:42 ANS1028S An internal program error occurred.

In the last scenario the server receiving the restore is pretty heavily loaded 
on CPU usage with Windows Defender using the major part of the CPUs.

So I will open a case with IBM Support and report this.

 - Bent

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 2:19 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

Hello Brent,

Without knowing the specific details of the errors you see, one thing you can 
try is to add this line to the dsm.opt file:

TESTFLAGS CONTINUERESTORE

Restart the client, and see if that causes the operation to continue with the 
next file after an error is reported.

If that does not work, then what error message(s) do you see? What messages, 
coincident with the failed restore, are logged to dsmerror.log? Be sure to 
include the full text, though you can redact user names and file names, as 
appropriate.

Based on that, I might have some other ideas, or else I will suggest opening a 
case with IBM Support.

Unsolicited thought that might be redundant, but I mention it anyway :-) please 
use appropriate care when restoring the files, even if the AV software is 
guarding against suspicious files.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Spectrum Protect Level 3
IBM Storage
stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Bent 
Christensen (BVC)
Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2023 06:02
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

Hello,

Just wondered if anyone have had the same issue and maybe found a solution for 
it:

Now and then we are tasked with restoring data that were backed up very long 
ago back to Windows file shares. In a few cases it turns 

Re: Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

[Bent Christensen (BVC)]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your response and suggestion.

I have been using the weekend to dig a little deeper into the issue, and it 
turns out that if I just restore the folder containing the infected file, TSM 
restores all other files and just responds with a:

01/19/2023 15:58:57 ANSE ..\..\common\winnt\ntrc.cpp(784): Received Win32 
RC 225 (0x00e1) from HlClose(): CreateFile. Error description: Operation 
did not complete successfully because the file contains a virus or potentially 
unwanted software.

But if I run 3-4 or more DSMC RESTORE sessions simultaneously the session which 
has the infected file terminates with this in DSMERROR.LOG:
01/18/2023 17:27:31 ANSE ..\..\common\winnt\ntrc.cpp(784): Received Win32 
RC 225 (0x00e1) from HlClose(): CreateFile. Error description: Operation 
did not complete successfully because the file contains a virus or potentially 
unwanted software.
01/18/2023 17:27:42 ANS1028S An internal program error occurred.

In the last scenario the server receiving the restore is pretty heavily loaded 
on CPU usage with Windows Defender using the major part of the CPUs.

So I will open a case with IBM Support and report this.

 - Bent

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 2:19 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

Hello Brent,

Without knowing the specific details of the errors you see, one thing you can 
try is to add this line to the dsm.opt file:

TESTFLAGS CONTINUERESTORE

Restart the client, and see if that causes the operation to continue with the 
next file after an error is reported.

If that does not work, then what error message(s) do you see? What messages, 
coincident with the failed restore, are logged to dsmerror.log? Be sure to 
include the full text, though you can redact user names and file names, as 
appropriate.

Based on that, I might have some other ideas, or else I will suggest opening a 
case with IBM Support.

Unsolicited thought that might be redundant, but I mention it anyway :-) please 
use appropriate care when restoring the files, even if the AV software is 
guarding against suspicious files.

Regards,

Andy

Andrew Raibeck
IBM Spectrum Protect Level 3
IBM Storage
stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Bent 
Christensen (BVC)
Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2023 06:02
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Restoring virus infected file halts TSM client

Hello,

Just wondered if anyone have had the same issue and maybe found a solution for 
it:

Now and then we are tasked with restoring data that were backed up very long 
ago back to Windows file shares. In a few cases it turns out that some of these 
old files are infected by virus/malware which was not detected by the AV 
application at the time when the malicious file was written.

When the TSM client tries to restore an infected file back to a Windows server, 
the AV application on the Windows server will of course prevent the file from 
being written. However, the TSM client interprets this as an disk error (or 
something) and terminates the restore processes so any subsequent non-infected 
files are not restored, making it almost impossible to do un-monitored restores 
of these data sets.

Would really appreciate it if anyone got some ideas to circumvent this (except 
for disabling the AV application while restoring)?

Regards

Bent


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