Re: [AFMUG] Pot

Well…it is expensive, but fortunately I meet the insurance deductible by June every year due to wife and kids getting allergy shots. After that the prescription copay is not so bad. I skip the meds every weekend so I won’t build tolerance, and it lets me build my own secret reserve for times

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

I wonder if it would work as 4x 25gig links. Should be able to configure it that way. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 5:36:06 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

I always miss his wisdom. I know an election years is coming, but Steve & Jamie please behave yourselves this time. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 1:08:02 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Modbus

otocols - MODBUS and MODBUS RTU. The RTU protocol is much more difficult to work with due to timing requirements, MODBUS itself is just standard serial at a baud rate and timing of responses is not critical at all. Mark > On Oct 26, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Adam Moffett > mailto:dmmoff...

[AFMUG] Modbus

I've never used modbus. I'm looking at AC usage meters that support modbus over RS-485. And the controller on my Vertiv rectifier says this in the manual: "e) Modbus Protocol: The NCU can communicate with an AC Meter using the Modbus protocol." and that's literally all it says. Is this

Re: [AFMUG] dumb OTDR question

er you are using and what wavelength the OTDR is. It also depends what is on the other ends of the splitter. If that is a splitter with nothing spliced to one of the ends you can get a reflection off of a dead end. On 9/28/23 8:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Can you have return loss (i.e. reflection

Re: [AFMUG] wispa

I think my parents still have it. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 6:27 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Wow, is vonage still a thing? > > > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2023 2:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wispa > > *nods* I get them for

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

Curious, where would you have two signals of different amplitude in a fiber system? PON return signals? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 5:07 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] “Low pass” attenuator Is there such a thing as a fiber attenuator t

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] “Low pass” attenuator Curious, where would you have two signals of different amplitude in

[AFMUG] “Low pass” attenuator

Is there such a thing as a fiber attenuator that only attenuates a signal higher than some threshold? I’m thinking to prevent overloading a receiver, but let weaker signals pass unimpeded. Get Outlook for iOS -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

I can’t tell if you’re joking. But everything you just said is wrong. It’s not literally dead dinosaurs. Most of it is from plant matter. The earth makes a lot of plant matter. Oil seeping into a well from surrounding rock is not a mystery, and it doesn’t mean the well is “full” again, and

Re: [AFMUG] Fun way to start the day. Incredible PBX Voicemail Notification

Hard to imagine they had low pressure ever since that install and only investigated today. I found recently that in State of NY the statute of limitations on property damage is 3 years. Not that they *cant* sue you after that, but it’s an extra hurdle that’s difficult to cross. I received a

Re: [AFMUG] Air vac

Splitting the pipe into two equal pipes will double the area for the air to go through. Based on the formula I found yesterday that should be the same pressure but half the velocity. I still think you'd want to maximize the product of cfm times velocity, I'm just not sure what would achieve

Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden"

outing at the wind now. -Adam From: Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2023 8:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden" Thank you sir Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0uk

Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden"

Thank you sir Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:34:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Yealink "Forbidden" Its a bold assumption that its the bad people i

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

rdens. So many opportunities on a compound for > family bonding. > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:35 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I mean maybe? I used ludicrous examples because I'm not trying to pick >> on anyone particular. I don't care which side of the cup you drink t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

3 at 8:35 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I mean maybe? I used ludicrous examples because I'm not trying to pick on anyone particular. I don't care which side of the cup you drink the kool-aid from, I just don't want a bunch of lunatics hanging around where my kids might

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

: > a proper compound doesnt need to concern itself with the quality of the > neighbors. All you need to worry about is proper placement of punji traps > and claymores. Its the alphabets you need to worry about, they have > helicopters > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:48 AM Adam Mo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

> > Brian Webster > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2023 6:47 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands > > > > So would you guys actually buy that co

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

moving in. Like nudist PETA eco-terrorists or neo-confederate klansmen. On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:09 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > The Amish are making a mass exodus from NY. You can drive through Amish > communities and see "for sale" signs one after the other. The Amish are &

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

oing conduit all around the outside walls. But they probably all have basements that you could also wire through. On 4/20/23 5:09 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > The Amish are making a mass exodus from NY. You can drive through > Amish communities and see "for sale" signs one a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

the outside walls. But they probably all have basements that you could also wire through. On 4/20/23 5:09 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > The Amish are making a mass exodus from NY. You can drive through > Amish communities and see "for sale" signs one after the other. The > Amish are

[AFMUG] OT: Amish Lands

The Amish are making a mass exodus from NY. You can drive through Amish communities and see "for sale" signs one after the other. The Amish are generally known for good workmanship, to the point where some people go out of their way to get Amish building contractors. They also have

Re: [AFMUG] Ticketing systems

At a glance it looks like Request Tracker is free if self hosted and you pay for cloud hosting with support. Is that the case? Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2023 3:29:24 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Ticketing systems

Tickets aren’t just for broken things you know. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2023 11:22:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] Ticketing systems

What are current opinions on best ticketing systems? Seems like everything is expensive or terrible or both. Get Outlook for iOS -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

Unfortunately you’re the exception not the rule :) Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 8:08:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour

Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

d ones off at times. Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Mic

Re: [AFMUG] Blank panel and and an hour later

The hinged ones I have open both ways and you can still snap the cover off completely if it’s in the way. It’s pretty darn convenient. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 3:48:35 PM

Re: [AFMUG] It has begun

Why are we going down this road again? Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:14:09 PM To: Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It

Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful. Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email. Get Outlook for

Re: [AFMUG] RF Cage for WIFI

A microwave probably fits through the seam in your lead lined case. A was talking once with an IBM guy who worked in some kind of RF shielded room. He said if he wanted his cell phone to work inside the room he just had to put a dollar bill in the door. Get Outlook for

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

Why? Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 4:54:18 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange I think ages make a huge difference in a lot of

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

Mr Ryan, the rental market has been unfeasible at minimum wage without roommates for my entire life. I lived with anywhere from 1-5 other people until I was 30. Even it was feasible without roommates, you'll save so much money by having them that it would be almost crazy not to. On Tue, Feb 14,

Re: [AFMUG] AC Power Plant

We have a CE+T inverter here….our low voltage contractor supplied it so I’m afraid I don’t know where they buy it. Two comments though: 1)CE+T is in Europe, so there’s a time lag if you need support. 2) the inverter we have is overkill. You can configure the phase and frequency of each

Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

Maybe a clever guy like you could capture and record an actual amber alert over the air and then repeat it on demand. When you get the alert to watch for the missing person in the blue Hyundai you know it’s really your front door alarm. Get Outlook for iOS

Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

Everything sent to cell phone with a pair of keys. One key is in your SIM card, and the other is in the EPC at the cell company’s head end. I assume the amber alert is still encrypted like everything else. Could be wrong, but you might have to crack that to send anything to your phone that

Re: [AFMUG] Cordless phones

Yeah zoiper works fine. SIP + cell phone is good as long as it doesn’t actually try to use cellular data. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 2:37:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PtP

I think the 450 is all you’ve got. For me, nlos isn’t worth pursuing anymore. The link degrades over years as trees grow and there’s nothing much you can do about it. I would rather say “no” and pursue something else with my time. But If I had to do 900MHz I think 450i is the only

Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

Yeah I can’t complain about rack injector. Good solution Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 3:44:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chemistry

> On Jul 2, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I only remember L and D for chirality. Did dexter I think. L stands for > left I think but maybe it is some kind Greek word. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jul 2, 2022, at 8:21 AM, Chuck Macenski wrote: >>> >>  >>

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

So it is. It was taught to me as one of the logical fallacies formally identified in ancient Greece.but the phrase itself is Latin. Maybe the professor was mistaken. On 2/1/2022 3:30 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: non amicus Graecus, non Latinus No my friend, it's a Latin expression.. On

Re: [AFMUG] Musco Towers

irt. > > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:27 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Musco Towers > > My last outfit did a whole bunch of 80' fiberglass poles like that.

Re: [AFMUG] Musco Towers

. Install of $3-4k, what was the actual pole cost? On 1/5/2022 7:43 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: And btw:  an 80' pole is 70' AGL.  The bottom 10ft goes in the dirt. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:27 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] Musco Towers

My last outfit did a whole bunch of 80' fiberglass poles like that.  With step bolts, safety climb systems, and mounting hardware at the top. 80' was about the biggest pole you could put in with a normal size digger derrick truck.  You can call any utility line contractor for that.  We had

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 in home routers

Again we're talking about manufacturers not paying attention to it.  It's pretty standard for a home router to have a default set of firewall rules /in addition/ to NAT.  The fact that they didn't bother to have a default set of IPv6 rules isn't a flaw in the protocol itself. On 12/15/2021

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 in home routers

I don't think we're talking about flaws in the protocol.  I think we're talking about it being a secondary concern for manufacturers so they're not putting enough attention into it. On 12/15/2021 11:06 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Correct. We still don't know how to properly hand out IPv6 to end

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 in home routers

Yeah this topic is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. I'm generally in favor of providing the customer a router for a nominal fee.  Like $5-10/month for a router as a service.  I like the visibility to be able to see which specific device is consuming the whole pipe, or to see if a connectivity

Re: [AFMUG] AWS issues?

Spikes on down detector would seem to agree with your observation. On 12/15/2021 10:41 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Anyone else seeing real slowness from AWS DBs this morning? I couldn't even load the dashboard a while ago, but now it comes up. Their status says everything is fine but even simple

Re: [AFMUG] Managing Others Employees

Reminds me of those AITA questions on Facebook. and maybe I'm the A-hole, but I would resent someone giving me marching orders like that.  I really actually would retry calling "Lady#2" a few times throughout the day because I am actually sensitive to the fact that people need their

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Omicron Variant

"I built this castle with my own two slaves!" Freakin classic. On 11/27/2021 10:41 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Am I the only one that thinks of this whenever I see it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5c78zlyxw=4s -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

Is there any such thing as a GPON system that /isn't/ vendor locked? I'm not specifically defending Calix here, I'm just thinking I haven't yet seen GPON equipment that made any assertions about interop with other vendors.  Unless you went ActiveE aren't you still locked in with whatever

Re: [AFMUG] -48V system temperature probe

I think taping it to a post is a good idea because the mass of the battery may not change temperature as quickly as the ambient air, and the temperature of the lead post may more accurately reflect the internal temperature of the battery. I don't know whether it really matters if it's on positive

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet ground block

AM Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is there an equivalent to the cable TV ground blocks but for Cat5? I would basically look like a coupler with a ground wire attached to the shield.  Much more basic than a surge suppressor. -Adam -- A

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet ground block

obviously aren't going to care much about the quality of the actual surge suppression in this case anyway. On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 12:28 PM Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I guess both indoor and outdoor?  Bonding for R56 compliance and also for maybe getting RF noise

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet ground block

two jacks on a pcb and then some kind of housing. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:45 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Ethernet ground block Is there an equivalent to the cable TV ground blocks but for Cat5? I would

[AFMUG] Ethernet ground block

Is there an equivalent to the cable TV ground blocks but for Cat5? I would basically look like a coupler with a ground wire attached to the shield.  Much more basic than a surge suppressor. -Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 3GHz radio question

. On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 6:32 PM Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes if he has an SM then he needs an AP to make a link, but they do make "PTP 450" products that are in the same form factor as an SM.  Maybe he has two of those? If he's in FC

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 3GHz radio question

Yes if he has an SM then he needs an AP to make a link, but they do make "PTP 450" products that are in the same form factor as an SM.  Maybe he has two of those? If he's in FCC territory he also needs to sign up for a SAS vendor through CnMaestro to use those legally.  Current firmware still

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

Heh, "fiber demons." A few months back I swapped a cable between an old Cisco X2 card and a patch panel and the port wouldn't link up.  Cleaned and checked everything, ran the OTDR, tried another cable, nothing worked. Then I put the old patch cable back in and it linked right up. Switched

Re: [AFMUG] example land lease for tower construction

.  But as I was the original landlord and the original tenant it was not a big deal.  When I sold the company that was the tenant then it became a big deal. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2021 1:36 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] example land lease for tower construction

Re: [AFMUG] example land lease for tower construction

I thought that wasn't reasonable, but nobody spelled out that the road had to be maintained to any specific standard so shame on us. -Adam On 9/20/2021 3:36 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I don't have an example land lease agreement.  But these are some things that have come up. 24/7 access without notice

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** interesting...we installed several laser links in the 1990s...

There's a whiz-bang-wow factor for free space optics.  I'm not sure if there's any real technical advantage over millimeter wave though.  None that I'm currently aware of. -Adam On 9/20/2021 12:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Seems to me like you're almost always going to be a lot better off

Re: [AFMUG] example land lease for tower construction

I don't have an example land lease agreement.  But these are some things that have come up. 24/7 access without notice     (some landowners want a phone call when you go up, sounds reasonable at first, but it becomes a nuisance) Define the path/ROW for vehicle access and put it in writing in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 900mhz 450i AP

I still need a couple more AP's. I guess I don't care what you do to get them, but cutting Ryan won't help because he already shipped his. -Adam On 9/14/2021 11:56 PM, Steve Jones wrote: "cut Ryan"... check On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 3:44 PM > wrote: You’re a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Breakfast is served..

I love that coffee mug On 9/14/2021 9:23 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Aligning a 60Ghz LR for AMCC later this morning...so a good breakfast was required.. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What do all those big tech employees do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OvQIGDg4I On 9/13/2021 12:43 PM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm always hearing about the 1000's of people that Big Tech employs, Google/Facebook/Amazon  what do all those people actually do?  We know they're not doing support, just look at Forums or NANOG with the

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

The original request was for a product, not a Frankenstein solution.  Hacking something together is just a natural outgrowth of any conversation here. .and yeah it's harder to incorporate weird stuff into a business process.  If you have to do something weird it's better that it's weird

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Is it even possible?  How wide is an optical channel?  They space them 20nm apart, and that's gonna be around 2ghz of spacing between channels.  That doesn't mean the channel is 2ghz wide, but it might be "up to" that big and you'd need that full duplex.  I mean RFOG puts a whole cable TV

Re: [AFMUG] Moving Virtual Machines

-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:35 AM Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: locally copy to USB hard drive? On 9/2/2021 9:17 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > I have a couple stand alone ESXi servers (6.5.0).

Re: [AFMUG] fiber patch cord labels

Where do you get the foam sleeves?  Panduit? On 9/3/2021 8:58 AM, Jesse Dupont wrote: I personally think these are the way to go. Foam sleeve around the fiber, label around the foam. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'm curious about how people label

[AFMUG] fiber patch cord labels

I'm curious about how people label 2mm and 3mm patch cables (or 900um for that matter). After a lot of evolution through labels that like to fall off or get in the way, our current method is to cut a section of plastic drinking straw a little longer than the labels.  Slit the straw

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

the extender, irritating he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the midpoint and is going to place a managed switch there instead of all this other unsupportable cobbling. Sometimes we get a win. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:55 AM Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Moving Virtual Machines

locally copy to USB hard drive? On 9/2/2021 9:17 PM, Nate Burke wrote: I have a couple stand alone ESXi servers (6.5.0).  I'm trying to move a 30GB server image from one server to another.  Trying to download the VM machine image file onto my desktop with VCenter, it gets about 80% done and

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

 switch there instead of all this other unsupportable cobbling. Sometimes we get a win. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:55 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: Maybe a dumb question, but has it already been tried without the extender? 400ft is

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

we get a win. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:55 AM Adam Moffett wrote: Maybe a dumb question, but has it already been tried without the extender? 400ft is beyond 100m, but not by all that much.  It might just work without any faffing around. On 9/1/2021 11:16 AM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5

Maybe a dumb question, but has it already been tried without the extender? 400ft is beyond 100m, but not by all that much.  It might just work without any faffing around. On 9/1/2021 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I have a customer fixed on using

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good example Elizabeth Holmes natural voice

She's actually two kids in a trench coat.  That's why there are two voices. On 8/28/2021 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: First time I have heard the natural voice. https://youtu.be/AI_a-B6F1Eg -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

Property is still property.  A landlord can't tell the tenant "no antenna", but the landlord can say "no holes in my building." So kind of, but no not really. On 8/25/2021 5:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Am I reading this shit right? Property owners can be forced to be transmit locations? On

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

We put a surge protector on both ends when we did this.  Each one grounded to the ground rod on it's respective building. Before we did that we'd blow switch ports with every lightning storm.  After we did that no more blown ports.  Maybe Bill's way works too, but one SS or two SS is not that

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we gonna mum-mum-mummify yo ass!

bilizers if you are going to do that.  180 pounds of meat does bad things to engines and airfoils. Mark On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: On the very first step the 400mph wind is going to pull them

Re: [AFMUG] Cell Phone Spam

I've had an abnormal number of them the past few days, but they're all the standard "You have a DHL package" or the Chinese lady. Yeah, what you're describing sounds like a new tactic.  Like they're going to try to trick you into a blackmail payment or some crap. Wasn't STIR/SHAKEN supposed

Re: [AFMUG] OT: fun

goes on, you realize we had some guys in the past that really sucked so much less. When you have to have your every bowel movement dissected on social media, you don’t get human candidates. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2021 10:28 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] OT: fun

I think it was 1984 when Regan swept 49 out of 50 states, and that was the last time we got the president we wanted vs the one we had to settle for. Everybody has thought every president since then was an idiot, except for the 20-30% of partisan cheerleaders on either side who always think

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we gonna mum-mum-mummify yo ass!

ape-flight-attendant-unruly-passenger/ <https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2021/08/13/duct-tape-flight-attendant-unruly-passenger/> bp On 8/9/2021 5:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: So don't grope flight attendants.  One of the

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Drill Bits

be worked with wood working tools, no problem.  I use wood routers, chop saws etc on aluminum all the time. One tip I learned after ruining carpets in double wides.  Put the drill in reverse when drilling through carpet. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Drill Bits

When I did installs every day I would use the same 5/16" drill bit for 6-12 months.  I know I could have sharpened them, but it was easier to just get another one at Lowes. IMO drill slower so it doesn't get too hot.  When you're going through metal set the drill on the lowest speed and use

Re: [AFMUG] My last erection...

Well, just so you know this is a classy joint so you can only post tasteful and artistic erection pics. On 8/8/2021 12:39 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Erected that Rohn tower last week...MDS licensed 928.-952.xxxMHz link for a lift station...wife and I were hiking the Rio Grande and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we gonna mum-mum-mummify yo ass!

So don't grope flight attendants.  One of them might be BA Baracus. On 8/6/2021 4:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFoXmnBuLw0 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Customer wants a SLA

Nobody promises 4 hour to /repair/.  Maybe 4 hours to have people actively on site and working on it, and probably phrased as 4 hour /response/. An SLA shouldn't frighten anyone.  It's not saying nothing bad will ever happen, it's just a written commitment to what you'll try to do for them

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

lters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 <https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064> *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

Christ, I could build a pretty badass shelter for $50k. On 7/30/2021 2:14 PM, Daniel White wrote: The listing says the HVAC units have been replaced.  So at least they are not 23 years old :-) New those shelters are $40k-$50k I think photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702)

Re: [AFMUG] venting - port 443

Agreed.  Super annoying. The whole point is to transport the customer's traffic, so why do they jump to the conclusion that we're blocking anything at all? On 7/28/2021 10:57 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Why is it whenever some random piece of equipment that needs to connect

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

Steel roofing and siding are zero maintenance and long lasting. A shingled roof and T111 siding are cheaper, but nobody will be there to tell you if it's leaking.  You'll find out when something dies. On 7/28/2021 9:39 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

If you get an electrician be sure to tell them what spec to go by.  Just went through thisone engineer in the home office was insistent on R56 grounding.  Nobody told the electricians, so they went by a Telecordia spec.  I don't remember what he said GRU something something, but it was

[AFMUG] CBRS - A house of cards

CBRS is really annoying right now. On some channels in some locations newly registered CBSD's start out in the state "Grant Suspended - IAP Pending".  IAP is a process for calculating interference.  It doesn't happen everywhere, but we are getting used to the idea if we're installing in Town

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

I'm not calling anybody stupid, but I don't agree with most of your list. On 7/23/2021 3:37 PM, David Coudron wrote: Here is what I find particularly challenging about suggesting that folks who have chosen not to take the vaccine are not that smart. 1. Folks who do that never talk about

[AFMUG] list dead?

Necromancy required to resurrect? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New Documentation Method

Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New Documentation Method Why in the world do you have multimode in there? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 9:25 AM Adam Moffett wrote: VP of Engineering made a Lego

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

Unplug the power.  Set up a camera with motion alerts.  When someone comes to check on the box you run up and intercept them. On 7/14/2021 3:48 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Thanks for all your responses guys.  Really frustrating that the “big guys” would just ignore the rules. Might have to use

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