Re: [AFMUG] WISP in need

I wanted to let you all know that those who chose to help this friend out are greatly appreciated. He extends his thank you as well. Between the help here and the assistance from other sources (mostly his church), he was able to get food to last a short while and pay his mortgage (his church pai

[AFMUG] lightwight tablet recomendations for troubleshooting

So looking for a lightweight tablet with good battery life that I can use for basic troubleshooting. Want something less then 2lbs. Windows 10, keyboard and touchpad, wifi, run winbox, chrome, firefox, teamviewer ect.. Love to keep the cost under 600. Any good recommendations that you guys

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I wouldn't be too sure that was real noise... we had similar issues with our first B11 link (it even showed a ton of noise on the spectrum analyzer), and ended up having to replace the radios. After replacing those first crummy made-in-California radios, with the newer, superior Chinese version

Re: [AFMUG] The Looming Tower

I'd say mostly based on fact. On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Watching this on Chucks recommendation.. about halfway through it. > > Do we think this is even partially based in fact? > > Yes we have heard that the CIA and the FBI did not talk prior to 911... > but the way

[AFMUG] The Looming Tower

Watching this on Chucks recommendation.. about halfway through it. Do we think this is even partially based in fact? Yes we have heard that the CIA and the FBI did not talk prior to 911... but the way they acted as portrayed in this mini-series is unbelievable. Sent from my smartphone --

Re: [AFMUG] OT camper toilets

I've been doing some research on this for a campervan build I'm considering (still haven't decided yet). We ended up buying for experimental purposes a thetford curve. It's what everyone would call a porta potty. It works well (used it in a rented van over the memorial day weekend). To empty

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

In San Mateo and Santa Clara valley there are a _LOT_ of 11 GHz paths criss-crossing all over the place. Like it or not, the noise floor is not as quiet as you might expect. We first tried the B11 on a link from the mountain SW of San Mateo shooting to kind of central San Mateo. It was abysmal.

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I thought that was the case - 1x80FD should just be half the capacity of the full 2x80, the rest of the options stay the same. I'm not really sure why you'd want to use a fixed ration in FD mode... in TDD, you would need to use a fixed ratio if you wanted to sync multiple links, but there's not rea

Re: [AFMUG] OT camper toilets

When you have a 144 or 288 and are parked on the side of a busy road, sometimes you really need a toilet. Especially if your are a few miles away from one. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT camper toilets H

Re: [AFMUG] OT camper toilets

How long are you planning on locking a splicer in that trailer for? These are simple and cheap enough at $110 https://www.campingworld.com/porta-potti-portable-toilets-365 that you can either empty them and reuse or just throw th

[AFMUG] OT and while on the subject

Anyone bought an active core alignment splicer lately that they really like?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Tim, Actually even in the 1x80FDD mode, the radio will do traffic split other than 50/50, which kind of makes it a unique animal. one of the reason we did not feel the need to switch out the B11 for AF11x on the 1x80, cause due to traffic split, the B11's performance was coming very close to

[AFMUG] OT camper toilets

I am outfitting a new fiber splice trailer. This one will have a toilet. I know next to nothing about camper toilets. Not much room for a holding tank. Been googling cassette toilets. They seem like they might be a good solution. Deed advice.-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.a

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Sometimes that’s all that is available - otherwise why would they have the option? > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Why use the FDD option? It’s still better to use the 2x80 mode and let it > dynamically adjust where the priority is. > > Rory > > From: AF [mailto:a

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Why use the FDD option? It’s still better to use the 2x80 mode and let it dynamically adjust where the priority is. Rory From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Hardy Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I’ll look but there’s nothing other than 50/50 with the 1x80 FDD option. On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:27 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > I think those rates are what you'd get with a 50/50 traffic split - if > it's running in flexible mode, you should be able to get close to double > that in one directio

Re: [AFMUG] cheap small, low power Windows 10 mini pc with high uptime?

Isn't Windows 10 and High Uptime an oxymoron? -TJ On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:58 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I've heard good things about the Intel Micro Stick. Less than $200. > > https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/358859/the-best-windows-micro-desktops > > bp > > > > On 7/16/2018 5:49 PM, Justin Marsha

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I think those rates are what you'd get with a 50/50 traffic split - if it's running in flexible mode, you should be able to get close to double that in one direction... but it's been awhile since I've played with settings on a B11, so I could be wrong. On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Faisal Imtia

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I realize that these are theoretical values supplied by the manufacturer and attaining these is another matter entirely. But, I thought it might help to see a comparison of supplied specs. Manufacturers are supposed to provide the “air-rate” that does not include header compression, overhead b

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

My power router v4 is still on 6.27 because of some hardware driver issue for support of sfp modules. Last time I made the move to upgrade to 6.40 all of my sfp ports started flapping and would not stabilize no matter what I tried. Ive been watching the change logs and it seems there were some dr

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Abuse email address for that ip glengineer...@wilsonnc.org On 07/17/2018 02:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote: FWIW, 216.152.5.42 has been hammering my network scanning for the winbox port for over 24 hours.  Ok, Hammering as in 10 packets per second. On 7/17/2018 1:24 PM, Philip Rankin wrote: I had sa

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

yep its evil.. Like mama says its the devil On 07/17/2018 08:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Definitely need 6.42+ there are two major exploits you're open to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Nick W

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

FWIW, 216.152.5.42 has been hammering my network scanning for the winbox port for over 24 hours. Ok, Hammering as in 10 packets per second. On 7/17/2018 1:24 PM, Philip Rankin wrote: I had same thing. Same IP addr On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:01 PM Nate Burke > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Right, but Adam mentioned speeds excluding compression. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:25:10 PM Sub

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

AFAIK The Trango Lynx secret sauce was header compression, and those numbers vary based on your average packet size. Lets of small packets = less overall throughput / larger packets = larger overall throughput capability. On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > ubnt does not publi

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

ubnt does not publish the specific FEC coding types and percentages for the AF11's modulations. What it's doing under the hood is kind of opaque... On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > This brings up what I've been wondering when looking at the AF11 data > sheets: > > A Tr

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

We've been through that before... I don't remember what the explanation was, but yeah, something with the way Ubiquiti does things makes it much less spectrally efficient than most other licensed radios (the B11 being the exception). On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > This br

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

This brings up what I've been wondering when looking at the AF11 data sheets: A Trango Lynx on a 56mhz channel SISO without compression yields 486mbps Full Duplex at 1024QAM. An AF11X SISO on the same channel size at 1024QAM yields 344mbps Full Duplex. What's the deal?  Lower cyclic prefix o

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

With limited spectrum, it's an accurate statement. On a single polarity, 56mhz channel an AF-11 will get slightly less throughput than something like an old SAF Lumina (and the AF11 is using 1024QAM vs 256QAM, to get not even as much capacity, which means it needs a higher link budget). However, if

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

I had same thing. Same IP addr On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:01 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I just happened to be looking through the Logs of a couple Mikrotiks > that I didn't have Winbox Firewalled off From the outside world. Someone > from the outside world logged into winbox today. I had what I 'th

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

As always, YMMV, but neither platform has better efficiency than previous-gen traditional platforms. Traditional platforms have always delivered what the spec sheet says and thus far, they can't compare. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The B

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

>>> Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional >>> 256 QAM radio. One should take that with a grain of salt ! In absolute terms, yes that could be an accurate statement. How is pans out in reality is questionable ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telec

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I don't have an incentive to use either as there is so little 11 GHz spectrum in my area. Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional 256 QAM radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

[AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

More dependable, predictable, etc. I take it you like the B11? I like the radio interface and SFP on that radio, I like just about everything else on the AF11. I've just read about several instances where people have replaced the B11 with the AF11fx - I haven't read a single one the opposite way

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Originally it was web, then WinBox then API, all is fixed in the current versions. Both bugfix and production.But you must upgrade. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-73

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

I believe that this is specific to Winbox, if Winbox is accessible to the internet and it's running versions between 6.29 and 6.42.1 then you are vulnerable. On 7/17/2018 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: So does the problem actually come from having the API service exposed to the internet, not w

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

So does the problem actually come from having the API service exposed to the internet, not winbox (i.e. if you have winbox exposed to the internet, but API is disabled, you should be fine)? I think I have API disabled on all of our Mikrotiks that are exposed to the internet, and all the other serv

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Yeah, you can just set it to 50/50 and pretend it's full duplex (although you really don't want to do that unless you're using sync, since it'll make the latency go way up), but there's also the mode where it transmits and receives on different channels, which should act a bit more like an FDD radi

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

With the B11, it's sort of a pseudo FDD, it's not real FDD like a traditional dumb pipe FDD radio that would have latencies of less than 1ms solid end to end. From 2.5 to 4.5ms and varying depending on which way the traffic is flowing greatest at any given period in time. On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

DO NOT USE API without a SSL. :) Now client sends username and password in first message. Password is sent in plain text. in case of error, reply contains =message=error message. In case of successful login client can start to issue commands. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

What's new in 6.43rc44 (2018-Jul-11 07:45): MAJOR CHANGES IN v6.43: -- !) api - changed authentication process (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:API#Initial_login); Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:57 PM, Nate Burk

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

Thank you Faisal. I appreciate the info! On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:42 AM Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Keep in mind the following rules of physics !... > > 802.11n = 802.11n , 20mhz channel = 20mhz channel. > > Rocket M (5ghz) and Epmp 1000 (5ghz) are both the same class of product, > so for a given l

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

It's not Full Duplex, it's just a 50/50 ratio of half duplex. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

They have a mode that works pretty much the same as a full duplex radio, but it's still not a true full duplex radio... and it's going to lose a lot of capacity, since it can only use a single 80mhz channel in each direction that way. I suspect that it's not going to get any more capacity than an A

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

I believe the B11 has a Full duplex mode of operation. Its 750/750 or something like that. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Well, for you, I assume working "better" would be the one with an SFP port :) On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Define "better". > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

Define "better". - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:02:34 PM Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 D

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

On 7/16/18 9:12 PM, Bill Prince wrote: They also seem to be a lot better in higher noise environments. Um, how are you seeing "higher noise" in a licensed band? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Old versions of ROS had an exploit where remotely, the attacker could fetch the plaintext passwords. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Monday, J

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Correct, need to get those updated. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net Create Wireless Coverage’s with

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Definitely need 6.42+ there are two major exploits you're open to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Nick W wrote: > Based on those versions you listed, it sounds like the Winbox > vulnerability descr

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

Based on those versions you listed, it sounds like the Winbox vulnerability described here: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=133533 Password complexity isn't really the issue since they could connect and download the unencrypted user database file. Firewall off Winbox and/or upgrade. Ru

Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes

unfortunately, i am seeing this too. - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes Ex employee? Password compromised by phishing? I'd hope there isn