Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

no it's part of the ROW (right of way for public utilities) On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 10:47 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Wouldn't you have to secure an easement through each property? > > Sent from my smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Steve Jones" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Wouldn't you have to secure an easement through each property? Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: [AFMUG] contemplating Date: Fri, Sep 21, 2018 5:57 PM A handhole at every other fence crossing gets you 4 lots pe

[AFMUG] Ken

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Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

I can do xgbps with x numerous radios on all available channels with an aggregator on both ends. I'm calling it Xg and using stormy Danielson a pole as the stock images for marketing On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 7:52 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > They can do 1 Gbps per sector using 5 Channel carrier ag

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Hmmm. That is very interesting. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > > Something that might get work would be to do a 19 way 8.5/6 or 10/6 microduct > fed from both ends. Cut 3-4' trenches near the corner of each block of four > units and then bore thr

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Take a look at a product called futurepath - it’s a 7 or more micro duct in one larger duct. You can dig it up, cut into the outer duct, pull out one of the inner ducts and cut it. Feed that from both ends. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 22690 Pemberville Rd Luckey, OH 43447 419-261-5996 > On Sep 21

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

They can do 1 Gbps per sector using 5 Channel carrier aggregation. Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Sep 21, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Mark Radabaugh

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Something that might get work would be to do a 19 way 8.5/6 or 10/6 microduct fed from both ends. Cut 3-4' trenches near the corner of each block of four units and then bore through and pull back the 19 way. Pull the 19 way up in each trench just enough to splice in four drop ducts and route

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

There are public utility easements around all lots. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > Are you going to get an easement from each homeowner? > > How do you deal with the fences short of two bores and a HH or slack loop in > every back yard? > > > I

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Are you going to get an easement from each homeowner? How do you deal with the fences short of two bores and a HH or slack loop in every back yard? I'm in FL this week trying to get a back side of the house FTTH build back on track and if I had to do it again I think I would have kept the ma

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

That's where the real money is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 5:59:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

Throw in microcell cellular every 4th lot on the post too. And ptz neighborcams with a high dollar access fee On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 5:57 PM Steve Jones wrote: > A handhole at every other fence crossing gets you 4 lots per handhole. > Post can be in the middle andbyou could do custom lids with 4

Re: [AFMUG] contemplating

A handhole at every other fence crossing gets you 4 lots per handhole. Post can be in the middle andbyou could do custom lids with 4 openings if you wanted. Drop a second or third duct and lease it to Telco and cable if they're interested. Or put in 5g through the back fences, wear a dress and star

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Well, if they have not changed the design, almost nothing. They have several series TVS type of diodes across the pairs instead of one device. And I don’t recall them having any gas tubes at all, but both of our designs use reverse biased diodes to isolate the pairs from the TVS components d

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

What is the major difference between the Cambium GigE SS and yours Chuck? On 09/21/2018 11:33 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Our CAT6 products are 100% gas discharge tube. Our GIGE line are hybrid semiconductor and gas discharge tube. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:10 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

at least they quit calling it muniwifi, 5g sounds so sexy, like 4g with a pimp on top On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:45 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Unless they are ACTUALLY going to do true fixed wireless with high gain > directional outdoor antennas they are going to have a very difficult time > gett

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Unless they are ACTUALLY going to do true fixed wireless with high gain directional outdoor antennas they are going to have a very difficult time getting the signal levels needed. I don’t see them taking on the labor force needed to do what we do. Mark > On Sep 21, 2018, at 4:37 PM, castarri

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

64x64 MU-MIMO might help. I think their biggest limitation will be indoor CPEs. If the 5G guys are smart, they will partner with local re-sellers like independent sat TV installers, and let them do outdoor high-gain antenna installation. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:28 PM wrote: > And WISP like p

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

And WISP like performance once the channel gets full of users. I think if anyone could have done it, Google could have done it when they switched from fiber to wireless. And they didn’t set the world on fire. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Micr

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

And WISP-like speeds if they are running in 2.5 Mark > On Sep 21, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > TMO-Sprint plan is to use 2.5 ghz band 41 MUMIMO for Fixed Gigabit Wireless > Access… > > Expect WISP like ranges… > > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf > of

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Bill, My G's go to 11 -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Friday, September 21, 2018, 3:50:13 PM, you wrote: BP> In that case, I'll wait for 10G. BP> bp BP> BP> On 9/21/2018 12:48 PM, Seth Mattinen w

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

TMO-Sprint plan is to use 2.5 ghz band 41 MUMIMO for Fixed Gigabit Wireless Access… Expect WISP like ranges… From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 009

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Get a ham license... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:50 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic... In that case, I'll wait for 10G. bp On 9/21/2018 12:48 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/21/18 12:44, ch...@wbmfg.co

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

In that case, I'll wait for 10G. bp On 9/21/2018 12:48 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/21/18 12:44, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Funny, they talk about the trial areas. One of them being Cornwall England.  My daughter and her family live in Cornwall.  They have FTTH.  Be interesting to see if the w

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

On 9/21/18 12:44, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Funny, they talk about the trial areas.  One of them being Cornwall England.  My daughter and her family live in Cornwall.  They have FTTH. Be interesting to see if the wireless can compete. This sounds like a story we have all heard before. Dude, it

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Funny, they talk about the trial areas. One of them being Cornwall England. My daughter and her family live in Cornwall. They have FTTH. Be interesting to see if the wireless can compete. This sounds like a story we have all heard before. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, September 21, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Mainly because 5G cells are expected to be very small. bp On 9/21/2018 12:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Why? From: AF on behalf of Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

Why? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Grou

Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

But it will still be a primarily urban service. bp On 9/21/2018 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/21/t-mobile-details-5g-home-broadband-plan-to-undercut-charter-and-comcast/

[AFMUG] Talk about optimistic...

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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Can only guess at the motivations, but this is only a test they did in their controlled lab, we haven’t seen this as a problem with that ISP in the lightning season in the field reported to us, and we of course lab test at much higher kV levels than the ones they claim generally, the ISP did the

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

I am guessing some product manager decided that others are cutting into their surge suppressor market or something Not unusual, but they are selling to a tech savvy market. People are quick to call BS on stuff like this. I can set up a surge test that will replicate their results. That i

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause problems? They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor, which I didn't even know exists... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Agree Chuck, and similar anonymous 3rd parties also confirm their largest customer switched suppliers after extensive testing, and suddenly the replacement GDT version is ”not recommended” from the Grassy Knoll. Interesting why nothing was said by the “3rd party” about interoperability with oth

Re: [AFMUG] bounces

It did. So I guess that it works as designed and I will just ignore these messages. Probably get one a month. From: David Sovereen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:45 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bounces Missy’s last day was Friday. That email address is

Re: [AFMUG] bounces

If anyone used her address for direct contact (which usually happens), it would be good to forward it to whoever is taking her position. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM David Sovereen wrote: > Missy’s last day was Friday. That email address is no longer valid. The > mailing list software should

Re: [AFMUG] bounces

Missy’s last day was Friday. That email address is no longer valid. The mailing list software should have an option to automatically remove subscribers after X bounces. 5 or 10 is a very reasonable number for X. Dave Sent from my iPhone David Sovereen Mercury Network Corporation 2719 Ashma

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Our CAT6 products are 100% gas discharge tube. Our GIGE line are hybrid semiconductor and gas discharge tube. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 Nice, why don't you become their

Re: [AFMUG] bounces

Forward it to them (Melissa) in this case and let them know they need to fix their stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:07 PM, wrote: > > I get these now and then. Should I post them to the list? > > -

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Nice, why don't you become their supplier? I'm guessing yours aren't gas tubes and we shouldn't be concerned about this announcement? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:04 PM, wrote: > Funny, I will take a

[AFMUG] bounces

I get these now and then. Should I post them to the list? -Original Message- From: mail...@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:12 AM To: af-ow...@af.afmug.com Subject: Bounce action notification This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Funny, I will take a look at their (cambium) product again. But the last time I checked the design was almost identical to mine From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/ap

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

Well... Consider the source. They have an ethernet problem. Even with no surge suppressor they have frame check and CRC errors. Most semiconductor based surge suppressors aggrivate that problem. Gas discharge tube products don’t. While I will agree that they are a bit slower, to say they d

[AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450

https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/applications-alert-surge-suppressors/ How does this apply to yours Chuck? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium small town roadshow

It's not really a wifi /mesh /is it?  I presumed in 2018 people would learn from past failures that they need a backbone network of some sort. I think the point of a franchise agreement is the operator gets exclusive access to the town's ROW and the town gets a fat check every year.  There won