Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-10 Thread Tushar Patel
I thought the FSB came out because lot of people complain on the failures, so at least in my mind it was related. If it is not then cambium has not identified at least to us what is the root cause of the problem and it has been addressed. They are doing RMA but there is know way 20% failure

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-10 Thread David Sovereen
Do your SMs hang in REGISTERING or another state? We have SMs on 13.4 stuck on REGISTERING that only come back by power-cycling them and have a ticket open with Cambium on it. They’ve acknowledged the issue but haven’t provided even a beta or test version that might fix it. Dave > On Sep 9,

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-10 Thread Wireless Administrator
Dave, The SM’s I’ve had the issue with are connectorized and didn’t have an antenna attached to them so I’m pretty sure they were not registering. I was at the base of the tower so I guess anything would be possible. The Radios I experienced the problem on were either P9 or P10. I did

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-10 Thread George Skorup
Yes, I have seen it happening on SMs too. On 9/10/2015 1:34 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Is this just happening on APs, or is it an issue on SMs too? Reason I ask, is that I was just looking at an SM that has been on 13.4 for about a month, and shows several watchdog/stack dumps since that time.

Re: [AFMUG] Figure-8 vs lashed

2015-09-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Ok, so ADSS is in between on price. Much cheaper than figure-8, but similar labor savings. I was wondering about drop cables though. If I have to cross a couple of poles to get from a closure to the customer premises, I would have no problem lashing the drop cable to a figure-8, but could I

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-10 Thread Tushar Patel
Dave, We had same issue “Registering”, we had to roll back to 13.2. Tushar From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100 Do your SMs hang in REGISTERING or

Re: [AFMUG] Strange DOS attack

2015-09-10 Thread Jon Auer
We've run into things like this before, but between our flow data--seeing it come in different upstreams, and it being sourced from UDP there's a good chance that the source IP was spoofed and it was actually coming from multiple sources->smallish DDoS On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-10 Thread Dan Sullivan
Josh, Good question from yesterday as it started an internal discussion. Let me give some more details as my “No” answer is not as black and white as I indicated. When running TDD mode based MAC interfaces (e.g. 5 msec, Flexible, and now 2.5 msec), the AP defines the content and timing of

Re: [AFMUG] Strange DOS attack

2015-09-10 Thread Paul Stewart
Yup … see them both ways (DOS and DDOS) but as mentioned most times it’s spoofed From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:14 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strange DOS attack We've run into things like this

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Very interesting...definitely worth knowing. The simple answer is that it probably won't associate but could which in my experience means it will leave the SM stranded. It's a simple toggle to different frame size anyways =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] ARIN\NANOG

2015-09-10 Thread Paul Stewart
I’ll be there! :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ARIN\NANOG Who else is going to ARIN\NANOG in Montreal next month? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
That is very good to know. So, since our APs are all on 75/25 and 2.4.3 now, once I upgrade everything to 2.5 and switch to 2.5ms, if I happen to miss an SM or two, they'll probably still work. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Very

[AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
OK, so I am working with a grounding expert today, getting some opinions on a couple difficult towers, and one of the first suggestions he has for me as I mention that I am looking to do fiber / DC up this tower is... "Have you considered going solar up the tower?" (to eliminate power surges

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Do you own this tower? I can't imagine what I would charge someone to put a solar site on one of my towers. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 8:19 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > If you get enough panels and batteries you'll be fine. If you cheap out > and don't get enough battery

[AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread George Skorup
I have a link on 2' Rocket dishes that just runs like crap. Can the AF5x simply swap in place? I don't need the slant conversion, but is it required? I thought someone mentioned that the V port of the feedhorn is in the way of the GPS connector on the radio, or did they change that? Also, the

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
But I'm pretty sure 430 is a different pinout than the other Cambiums stuff, but I don't recall what it is off hand. In addition, UBNT uses another pinout for airFiber - +(1,2)(4,5),-(7,8)(3,6) I think SAF uses 802.3at, but I could be remembering that wrong. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:56 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Or build a lift cage out of unistrut and a winch and come along system. Saw one while back outside an electrical contractor. Thing Big Man Erector Set... On Sep 10, 2015 4:12 PM, wrote: > Reel Trailers. > Or a reel stand if you are doing it on the cheap. You can weld one up

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Colin Stanners
Here's one that I did a while ago - most standard WISP PoE pinouts including Cambium, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, etc. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a list of PoE pinouts for common radio equipment? I had a >

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
If you have an old backhoe tire, you can roll smaller reels off the truck onto the tire without breaking them. 48” reels max. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels We have a manual tilting reel trailer that we

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Baird
I would at least allow 7.5W per ePMP radio (specs say 7.5 is typical, can spike to 10), and 10-15W per 320. Maybe another 5-10w per MT radio. That would be close to 100W. You don't want to underestimate power consumption. Regarding your solar question.. I'm not sure, but that sounds like one

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Christopher Tyler
If you have a UBNT power supply handy it's printed which pins are which polarity as do the older style Canopy supplies. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Work" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Powering SAF Lumina Radio with CMM4

2015-09-10 Thread TJ Trout
gigabit requires all 8 wires, you need a gige-poe from wbmfg.com to insert the power On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > I am trying to power a SAF Lumina Radio with a CMM4 and having the > following difficulty... > > I cannot get

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Chris Fabien
We have a manual tilting reel trailer that we use to transport reels of fiber or innerduct. For moving them around the yard, our two large plows have reel carriers so we just pick them up with those. Unloading from a truck can be tricky sometimes. If stuff is coming on a pallet we order a liftgate

Re: [AFMUG] Powering SAF Lumina Radio with CMM4

2015-09-10 Thread George Skorup
Power+data on the same wires requires a transformer. On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: you would need to use their hermetic thingamajig. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, TJ Trout > wrote: gigabit requires all 8 wires, you need a

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
In most cases, yes we own the tower. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... Do you own this tower? I can't imagine what I would charge someone to put a solar site

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Work
B standard* — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: > Does anyone have a list of PoE pinouts for common radio equipment? I had > a spreadsheet that I unfortunatly did not save to my network on my > laptop that had

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Work
Just Google it all over the net... Blues and browns are power wires if using M standard I forget what's -+ and for U MY you just reverse it — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: > Does anyone have a list of PoE

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I saw this huge reel trailer this morning on the side of the road a couple miles from my house, with 3 big reels of duct, one in front of the other. I was thinking WTF? On the way back I saw they were boring and pulling all 3 ducts into the ground. Must have big plans. From: Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/10/15 17:22, Chuck McCown wrote: If you have an old backhoe tire, you can roll smaller reels off the truck onto the tire without breaking them. 48” reels max. Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX1ZO1cYh5c

Re: [AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread Mike Hammett
AFAIK, the GPS connector didn't move. I'd hose clamp it to the pipe and get some longer pigtails from Baltic. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "George

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
You are correct on your calculations… my spreadsheet formula was wrong ☺ I just came up with 104 watts. I will ask the question naively.. why would you expect a headache? Isn’t solar tried and true these days? I am dealing with every aspect of surge protection I possibly can at every level

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Cameron Crum
If you are just looking for AC power isolation, then why not just a bank of batteries charged by grid power? This would isolate you from powerline surges. Cell sites have been running this way since the beginning of time. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Paul McCall wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Powering SAF Lumina Radio with CMM4

2015-09-10 Thread David Milholen
Currently the CMM4 doesnt support GigE I want my MTV! or CMM5 will do :) On 9/10/2015 4:39 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: I am trying to power a SAF Lumina Radio with a CMM4 and having the following difficulty... I cannot get the radio to negotiate 1Gbps. I have made a custom cable

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread chuck
Yeah, it is different. They put + and - on (4,5) as well as on (7,8). I don’t recall if 4 is positive or negative. (same thing for 7) From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:14 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts But I'm pretty sure 430 is a different pinout than

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
If you get enough panels and batteries you'll be fine. If you cheap out and don't get enough battery run time you'll hate yourself. You're in Florida so I think with the lack of winter and a proper budget (batteries) you'll have no problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Christopher Tyler
UBNT is 4,5(+) 7,8(-) CAMB is 4,5(-) 7,8(+) -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Christopher Tyler" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:54:54 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread chuck
Reel Trailers. Or a reel stand if you are doing it on the cheap. You can weld one up out of angle iron and put it on the back of a flat bed truck or trailer. Yes, you normally need a forklift too. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:46 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Powering SAF Lumina Radio with CMM4

2015-09-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you would need to use their hermetic thingamajig. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > gigabit requires all 8 wires, you need a gige-poe from wbmfg.com to > insert the power > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < >

Re: [AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
+1 what Mike said Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > AFAIK, the GPS connector didn't move. I'd hose clamp it to the pipe and > get some longer pigtails from

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
I forgot you are in Florida where there is never enough protection. That's a place where I think I would experiment with floating the ground if I could. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 9:39 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Or run 48 VDC up the tower and put a Mean Well RSD up there. > > A few

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
LOL !! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think... You could add solar to the generator. Lots of folks do a mixed system like that in off grid situations. Here is

Re: [AFMUG] Handling big reels

2015-09-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I've used forklifts with extensions to unload them from the trailer, then a reel trailer to transport them. I've never seen a reel trailer that will lift up to tractor trailer height, even if they existed you'd still have no way to get it to catch - I'm calling BS on that one. On Thu, Sep 10,

Re: [AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread George Skorup
I thought about that too. Good to know that will work. I'd like to keep the existing UBNT pigtails with the silicone boots to make swapping the radios over as fast as possible (no weather sealing). On 9/10/2015 9:46 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: FWIW I had to get a 90deg SMA connector so the GPS

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
What you are seeing (improvements) is a combination of a better radio (epmp) and the effect of GPS sync radios in a low to mild interference environment.. You will see such improvements thruout.. unless you run into heavy interference or another GPS radio (out of sync) operating on that

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
“Bad things can pass transformers”, meaning pass isolation transformers as well? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... The transformer on the top of the pole can be

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
I recall that being said. You meant motor generator meaning NOT A/C power right ? meaning, NOT coming in from the power pole? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
You could add solar to the generator. Lots of folks do a mixed system like that in off grid situations. Here is one, put a pulley at the top and bottom of the tower. Connect the pulleys with a nylon rope. Power the bottom with a motor and put a generator at the top! In addition to

[AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Force 200 on FCC site

2015-09-10 Thread Colin Stanners
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits=500=N_id=cylpXB3%2F9tJE%2Fh%2F0XseSFA%3D%3D_id=Z8H89FT0019 The same indian RF testing lab. This one says manufacturer Cambium instead of Gemtek (ChangSHU Co). Pretty impressive that tiny board can do 30dbm tx power and

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Being that we're talking about NLOS, I wonder if it's differences in how ePMP deals with multipath or something like that. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > These are both NLOS links [which ePMP appears to handle better]. The > throughput

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Mike Hammett
and they had a licensed link at one point. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
That's not what he meant by isolating the batteries from grid surges. Isolators come in all sizes and flavors. You remember the picture of system at Dell City I posted last week. It isolates grid power from the components which receive clean balanced and condition power. Solar is becoming

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
Ok, got it. I am not sure how practical that would be..hmmm, something else to think about, LOL ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... AC from the pole

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
OK. That makes sense. Will cycle the batteries more often of course. That goes in the consideration pile too now ☺ Solar seems to be less practical possibly than was expressed to me by the consultant today. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or run 48 VDC up the tower and put a Mean Well RSD up there. A few years back, a WISP near here had a solar site up on a water tank. Every year they added more panels, and they never had enough. It got pretty ridiculous looking with all those solar panels hanging off the railing around the

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
We have floated the ground on a few towers in the past with mixed results. When I was thinking of this “no power up the tower” consideration, isolating all equipment mounts from the tower also came to mind. We have used rubber to do that before when we were also experimenting with floating the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Use Forrest’s generator controller and telemetry to automatically start the generator when battery voltage got down to 47 volts. Charge until the current drops down to a a half amp more than the load or something like that. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:55 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
We charge our batteries now and a 24v array using a Samlex charger. But, that doesn’t isolate it from grid power. The charger (powered by 110) 24v output goes to the same “bus” that feeds the batteries. So, BOTH charger output and battery output are “on” at the same time. I asked here last

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
Ken, This is exactly the other option we are considering. 48v (or 24v, since we already have 24v as the standard in our network) up the tower, with Transector protectors on each end, and a RSD to provide some isolation after that. The solar consideration just came into view today, and I

[AFMUG] Fw: a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
You could have a propane generator charge the batts for a hour or two each day. Put it on a timer. Probably be less cost and more reliable than solar. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... Yep.

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
Where in line to use it? We haven’t had great luck with placing those at the start of the AC path. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... Why don't you use an

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
AC from the pole running the motor. That mechanically turns the DC generator or an AC alternator the feeds your power supply. You could even have a dielectric union in the shaft between the two. I cannot imagine much more isolation. Phone companies used to have a basement room full of

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep. Transformers pass pulses pretty well. If you get a common mode choke it helps. From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... “Bad things can pass transformers”, meaning pass isolation transformers as well?

Re: [AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Rocket dishes that just runs like crap. You should try to figure out as to Why this link is running like crap Is it due to dirty channel or something else ? If you take a poor preforming RM5 and put an AF5x on that same channel, don't expect magic to happen. If you have a nice clean

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Christopher Gray
These are both NLOS links [which ePMP appears to handle better]. The throughput increase may not have been as great if the links were LOS. On the link I switched today, I was averaging around 7.5 Mbps one-way with the Rocket M2 right before switching. After switching to ePMP, one-way tests were

Re: [AFMUG] School me on AF5X

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Oh, I don't know... I changed a Rocket link that ran like crap to AF5x, and it worked just fine... You can power it off just two pairs, but supposedly they need all four if it's a long cable run - I have one running on about 80' of cable on two pairs with no problems. +another to what Mike said.

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
The transformer on the top of the pole can be considered an isolation transformer. The transformer in the rectifier/charger can be considered an isolation transformer. Bad things can pass transformers. From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Motor generator. From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think... We charge our batteries now and a 24v array using a Samlex charger. But, that doesn’t isolate it from grid power. The charger (powered by 110) 24v output

Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...

2015-09-10 Thread Paul McCall
I recall the surge protection device display in the pic, but don’t recall a description of isolating from the grid. How do you do that exactly? In concert with our changes, I still would like to have everything in the tower shed/box running only off the batter array (isolated from the

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
The signals are probably accurate. The additional throughput is also accurate. I don't know why, but anything ePMP in 2.4 is VASTLY weaker than Ubnt in 2.4. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:06 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Keep in mind the gain on the Force110 is better than the Powerbeam5-400 by something like 1.5db (though both are labeled 25dbi). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Mathew Howard

[AFMUG] Dragonwave Compact Plus 18 Ghz

2015-09-10 Thread Sean Heskett
If you have any working Low radios or a complete link for sale, please email me off list at a...@zirkel.us Thank you!

[AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Christopher Gray
I just changed two low bandwidth 5 MHz width PTP links from Rocket M2 radios to ePMP 2.4 GHz non-sync radios. The "signal strength" is about 10 dB lower with the ePMP radios. Do they use a different mechanism to calculate signal strength? Link 1: - 2x Rocket Dish RD-2G24 - Antennas were

Re: [AFMUG] Figure-8 vs lashed

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've seen trees held up by ADSS. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > And another thing: without a steel messenger, is it more vulnerable to > being broken? I'm thinking of falling tree limbs, etc. > > > On 9/10/2015 9:15 AM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't know about 2.4ghz, since I really haven't done anything with 2.4ghz ePMP, but with 5ghz links I've swapped from UBNT, the signal has always been as good or better with ePMP. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > I just changed two low

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Brian Sullivan
I am not sure why the signals would read differently, but i'm curious how you arrived at the 60 to 70% throughput increase. Other than the ability to sync, I thought the main difference between UBNT's M series and ePMP was the user interface?? On 9/10/2015 2:06 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Adam Moffett
If we can believe Cambium, they have quite a bit more secret sauce than just the GUI. On 9/10/2015 3:18 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: I am not sure why the signals would read differently, but i'm curious how you arrived at the 60 to 70% throughput increase. Other than the ability to sync, I

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
There's no doubt about it, it's clear fact. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 10, 2015 3:49 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > If we can believe Cambium, they have quite a bit more secret sauce than > just the

[AFMUG] PoE Pinouts

2015-09-10 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Does anyone have a list of PoE pinouts for common radio equipment? I had a spreadsheet that I unfortunatly did not save to my network on my laptop that had its hard drive fail. Specifically, I am looking for the pinouts of Cambium 430 gear and SAF PtoP radios. Gilbert

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread tho...@fourway.net
Did u turn the power up on the epmp ptp links or is it @ default. --- Original Message --- >From: Josh Luthman[mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 9/10/2015 3:53:39 PM To : af@afmug.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength? There's no

Re: [AFMUG] Figure-8 vs lashed

2015-09-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I think the cable is strong enough to support that, I would think that you would have to use something plastic/non-abrasive (like zip-ties) to attach the drop cables to the ADSS. I find it simpler to just put a splice case at every pole that I need to make a drop or multiple drops from. On Thu,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT vs ePMP Signal Strength?

2015-09-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, which is probably why they're typically slightly stronger. PowerBeam M2's consistently get about 3db better than NanoBeam M2's, even though they're both supposed to be 18dbi antennas... which makes me think the ePMP numbers might actually be more accurate. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:17 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-10 Thread Bill Prince
Is this just happening on APs, or is it an issue on SMs too? Reason I ask, is that I was just looking at an SM that has been on 13.4 for about a month, and shows several watchdog/stack dumps since that time. It's been running clean for the last 10 days though... bp