Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I've wondered about that too, back when we first started doing PPPoE with MT, we were doing far slower connections, but the settings are still the same... it's entirely possible that a different Queue type would work better at the sort of speeds we're doing these days. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Keefe John
3d print them On 9/30/2015 2:05 PM, Paul McCall wrote: We are in need of a couple hundred end caps for Canopy cases. If you have some, (only need caps), I can send a label for pickup. Muchas gracias ! Pablo Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach,

Re: [AFMUG] Kumu Networks demonstrates same channel full-duplex

2015-09-30 Thread Brian Webster
I would think this technology will also have uses in the cable industry for their DOCSIS systems. Full duplex of any frequency has major implications. I was hoping this wasn't just going to be theory and actually make it in to the market. Think about all the backhaul capacity this could bring.

Re: [AFMUG] Real-Time cyber attacks

2015-09-30 Thread Brian Webster
I would guess that they just use that as a point for the center of the US when they don’t have any other good location data for the IP address. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
If you look at the docs between pfifo and sfq there is a pretty large difference from a downstream perspective. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 10:32 AM Matt wrote: > Saw in the ePMP knowledge base that they recommend changing queue type > from default to wireless-default. >

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am starting to hate the obsession with speedtests. Recently we cut the burst from 100 MBytes to about 6 MBytes (actually 8 seconds worth) at one tower while doubling everyone’s sustained speeds. Previously this tower had Trango APs and the highest burst speed you could get was about 8 Mbps,

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
That's true but I'm saying that customers won't understand you can reduce it from 10h to 2h if you upgrade. Even if the few that understand were aware, they wouldn't shell out the extra money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
There are private address on the interface, but not setup in DHCP. On 9/30/2015 11:58 AM, David wrote: Do you have any private ip addresses assigned to that bridge interface on the tower? On 09/30/2015 10:25 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Rogue DHCP Detection is setup, Needed with radios with no

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Today's Pearls Before Swine comic may be applicable: http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2015/09/30 -Original Message- From: Andy Trimmell Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

[AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Paul McCall
We are in need of a couple hundred end caps for Canopy cases. If you have some, (only need caps), I can send a label for pickup. Muchas gracias ! Pablo Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
SFQ works the best for speeds about 4 megs (thats not scientific on the 4 megs). PFIFO is more random than SFQ. I always tell folks there is more math involved with SFQ. And more math in figuring out bits is better right? hehe. Seriously, SFQ performs better. You just don’t see how much

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Is there any reason not to use SFQ instead of PFIFO? On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > SFQ works the best for speeds about 4 megs (thats not scientific on the 4 > megs). PFIFO is more random than SFQ. I always tell folks there is more > math

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
Bingo, I was considering a fiber deployment recently and did some market research. Very few were willing to pay even $50 for 50Mbs. Canceled project. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 9:47 AM Simon Westlake wrote: > Is 85% of the country unable to get 50Mbps or unwilling to pay for

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends where they are. If they have cable modem or good DSL in the area, perhaps not. If they have no cable and crappy DSL they do pay that much. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread George Skorup
We don't do PPPoE and only limited use of simple queues. I've messed with interface queues before and the best performance always comes from only-hardware-queue. Meh. On 9/30/2015 10:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: It may be something everyone should be doing everywhere, I don't know. It's

Re: [AFMUG] Kumu Networks demonstrates same channel full-duplex

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Isn’t this XPIC minus the cross-polarization? I wonder if this is strictly signal processing, in which case the difficulty would be not overloading the receiver front end (especially in a small inexpensive piece of gear like a handset)? Or do they employ some kind of

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I have serious doubts that most people could even tell the difference between 10mbps and 50mbps without running a speedtest (aside from large downloads)... They just need to run speedtests constantly to make sure their evil ISP isn't cheating them. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I really don't believe they'd notice a difference in large downloads. All they do is start it and walk away. I believe it's a line - a few seconds and I can use it or minutes/hours+ so they come back to it later. Fiber company down here in Dayton started up and just got their first condo/rental

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
True, the only thing they'll notice with large downloads is that it says it's going to take 2 hours instead of 10 hours... realistically, it's probably not going to make any difference, since they'll just go to bed and it'll be done when they look at it again either way. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Ah, yeah, good point. That's very true. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's true but I'm saying that customers won't understand you can reduce > it from 10h to 2h if you upgrade. Even if the few that understand were > aware, they wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread David
I have seen this before with consumer routers. Not sure exactly how it sees the wan interface upon boot, but I am sure its looking for the RFC1918 address on that interface. I think it may be a discovery protocol like igmp and you may be able to set up a rule to drop that traffic from entering

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
But if you tell them they can pay an extra $10 a month and it'll finish in an hour, they'll most likely say "he can wait" ...or the son might call up and whine that they shouldn't have to pay that much because they're already paying more than his friend (who happens to live in the middle a major

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Craig House
Paul. Do you have 2.4 FSk with or without caps ? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2015, at 16:38, Ryan Ray wrote: > > How much for 200 PMP100's? lol > > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> The radios are worth a few

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
The one I just got recently was "My son says the internet is too slow, All his friends have already downloaded the new Call of Duty Game, and are playing it, and he's still waiting for it to download, and it says it still has 5 hours left!" On 9/30/2015 2:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Ah,

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Adam Moffett
My suspicion is that people observe that something doesn't work or something is loading slowly. Then they run the speed test and find a reason not to like what they see. I think some folks run the speed test while their video is buffering and don't understand that while video is buffering,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
My house does a little traffic constantly (primarily upstream) and I changed it to SFQ around 2ish. I see no difference in CPU usage - it still parallels with the amount of throughput. Not sure what the throughput change would be, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Daniel White
With the speed package (I can pull up to 150Mbps down, but evening get 65Mbps or so) I have I can’t think of anything that has taken 2 hours to download… and realistically the servers are going to be your bottleneck anyways Thank you, Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Ryan Ray
How much for 200 PMP100's? lol On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The radios are worth a few bucks. Look at the value of your 3 year old > smart phonejack squat. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Paul McCall
That's above my skillset :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :) 3d print them On 9/30/2015 2:05 PM, Paul McCall wrote: We are in need of a couple hundred end caps

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm sure you could very easily pay Andrew Cox or Greg Sowell to print off as many as you would. The problem is that it would be much more expensive. There has to be dozens or hundreds of people with those boots on the shelves. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
The radios are worth a few bucks. Look at the value of your 3 year old smart phonejack squat. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Its sad

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Paul McCall
Yes we do Craig. Hitting you offlist Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :) Paul. Do you have 2.4 FSk with or without caps ? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
not assholesjust pompass asses :) - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar On 9/29/15 7:42 PM, George Skorup wrote: > And most IT guys are assholes.

Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

2015-09-30 Thread Dan Sullivan
Hi George, We do not have CRC error counts today and we would have to investigate this. I will take this as a feature request. Dan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

[AFMUG] Kumu Networks demonstrates same channel full-duplex

2015-09-30 Thread Rory Conaway
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Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://kidbleach.info/ or less safe for work: http://eyebleach.com/ ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047 > On Sep 29, 2015, at 19:41, Simon Westlake wrote: > > Well, I guess the simple

Re: [AFMUG] Kumu Networks demonstrates same channel full-duplex

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, so this isn't just bullshit? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:21:25 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Kumu Networks

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-30 Thread Steve
There going to be any sort of presentation / booth in Vegas?

Re: [AFMUG] Need 100 seris CAPs :)

2015-09-30 Thread Craig House
We found a few here. How much ? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2015, at 17:15, Paul McCall wrote: > > Yes we do Craig. > > Hitting you offlist > > Paul > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:47 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I'll just skimmed through the article... We might be able to get there, I'll see if I can figure out where exactly it is. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Steve wrote: > Would be a good followup Ars story if someone with a 450 was able to hit > this guy up with faster than

[AFMUG] And you thought gamers were grumpy about Latency Before

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
http://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-launches-geforce-now-game-streaming-service No more Pesky Downloading games to your console, use the 'Netflix' of Video Games... "To use GeForce NOW, you�ll need to meet a number of requirements. First, you�ll need an NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV, SHIELD

[AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Steve
Would be a good followup Ars story if someone with a 450 was able to hit this guy up with faster than DSL speeds! Good PR for the WISP industry. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/man-builds-house-then-finds-out-cable-internet-will-cost-117000/

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Steve
Contact Ars... have them update the site saying that Wireless can solve a lot of these problems for a fraction of the price. It'll be a good piece they can do on the wireless industry. Find the name of the guy who wrote the article. ahhh his email is jon.brod...@arstechnica.com -

Re: [AFMUG] And you thought gamers were grumpy about Latency Before

2015-09-30 Thread Super WISP
I have the NVIDIA Shield TV and it works great with KODI installed, Emulators, and PC game streaming from my PC and through their service that has been free up till now. I'm at the Comcast 75Mbps tier. Unit is really fast for how small it is and it's actually wife approved :) Mark Chamerlik

Re: [AFMUG] And you thought gamers were grumpy about Latency Before

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Have you noticed the everyone cites the government's definition of "broadband" as a minimum of 25/3 when in fact the term used was "advanced broadband"? How about we call gigabit "ludicrous speed". And 10/1 shall be "chopped liver". -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Rick Harnish
I contacted Peter Maher at Netwurx about the article. They are close. Maybe that is who Matthew Howard works for. http://www.netwurx.net/wireless-high-speed I also wrote an email to Jessica Michael at Farm Futures about her lack of knowledge about the Wisp industry yesterday. I haven't

Re: [AFMUG] And you thought gamers were grumpy about Latency Before

2015-09-30 Thread Rick Harnish
Oh duh, Litewire, why didn’t I know that. ☺ Respectfully, Rick Harnish Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst 260-307-4000 cell Skype: rick.harnish.​ Twitter: @rharnish From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:02 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] And you thought gamers were grumpy about Latency Before

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Oh, I like that! On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Have you noticed the everyone cites the government's definition of > "broadband" as a minimum of 25/3 when in fact the term used was "advanced > broadband"? > > How about we call gigabit "ludicrous speed". >

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Jon Auer is Netwurx last I heard Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 30, 2015 8:00 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Nope, I'm not from Netwurx, but they are around there too... I'm not sure > if they get closer

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
I contacted RFD TV about their online streaming and the WISP Industry and never got a response. All you can do is try... Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Rick Harnish

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Rick Harnish
No, I wasn't harsh. I invited her to write an article about how WISPs and the agriculture industry have partnered across the country to bring broadband to rural Americans. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst 260-307-4000 cell Skype: rick.harnish.​ Twitter:

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
When we started setting up los guys wireless farmers and ranchers offered their water tanks and towers to us to distribute our services to folks in the lower valley. They had windstream dsl in some areas or nothing at all. So the need and demand are definitely there. On Sep 30, 2015 7:31 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Jon Auer
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That's not a connection I'd want to put in if it was in the least bit > questionable though, seeing as he calls 3/1Mbps unusable... > Hell, These days I don't like putting in anything less than 10/5Mbps. And yes, we

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
If only we all lived in a field*shrug* - Original Message - From: Steve To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news? Contact Ars... have them update the site saying that Wireless can

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Jon Auer
And here I thought my ears were burning from the fall breeze (just got back from turning up a 11Ghz link as part of our network upgrades heading towards that area...). We have ePMP, PMP450, and AirMax ac (variously) to the north and east of Sun Prairie (within 20 minutes drive), and PTP stuff in

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
In case it matters, remember the archives of this list are public and searchable on Google. From: Jon Auer Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:00 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news? And here I thought my ears were burning from the fall

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ouch, that Farm Futures article is pretty awful. Probably what passes for journalism today. I hope you weren't too harsh on her. Probably some gig economy writer paid a penny a word or something? -Original Message- From: Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 6:56 PM

[AFMUG] National Broadband Map

2015-09-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Ok - two articles that I read today both cite the national broadband map for "information". I wanted to pass along some information I received in a state of Alabama broadband meeting / briefing today. At a conference recently an Alabama state staffer discussed with personnel from the FCC the

Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

2015-09-30 Thread Mathew Howard
You definitely wouldn't want to put him on Canopy 900. I can't say that I've ever heard anything good about Frontier DSL around here... so it's likely he isn't really getting 3/1 most of the time. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Jon Auer wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at

[AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
I've been running into issues recently with SOHO routers deciding that they need to be in Bridge mode instead of Nat Mode. It seems like there is something with how they're detecting the connection when they're setup. I'm not doing anything special. DHCP Assigns a Public IP Address from the

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm glad they're finally doing bridge mode in more than a couple devices. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Daniel White
You have to imagine that most of these devices get installed on cable modems or DSL modems already doing NAT. So using this configuration, it resolves double NAT issues. Maybe just a better incentive to move into the managed router space. Plenty of compelling solutions out there now. Thank

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Rory Conaway
[http://www.speedtest.net/result/4706097948.png] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
Isn't there some 'always available' Private IP Address on the Ethernet line of the EPMP. Could it be detecting this somehow? On 9/30/2015 9:20 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Newer Netgear firmware when it detects the router is behind another router will go into "Wireless AP" mode where all 5 ports

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
15% of the country speed tests a greater than 52 mbps (down only I'm assuming). That includes a bunch of fiber customers I'm sure. The problem is the statistic of how many live in major cities - I think 97% of the population lives in a metro area? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Don't know.it's usually when there's a private IP on the WAN interface. Router firmware bug? On 9/30/2015 9:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I've been running into issues recently with SOHO routers deciding that they need to be in Bridge mode instead of Nat Mode. It seems like there is something

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Simon Westlake
Is 85% of the country unable to get 50Mbps or unwilling to pay for it? 50Mbps is towards the top end of what TWC offers to residential customers around here, and I would be willing to be the majority take a cheaper package. On 9/30/2015 9:45 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread David
Nate, Set up tower gateway to detect rouge dhcp server on the bridge interface and see if there is router facing the wrong way. This happens because of DOH! moments of customers and if you have a CPE that doesnt have any filtering for this its a bummer On 09/30/2015 08:57 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] Kumu Networks demonstrates same channel full-duplex

2015-09-30 Thread Stefan Englhardt
I guess it will heavily depend on the distance of the link as signal strength difference of incoming and outgoing signal will increase. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. September 2015 15:51 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Kumu

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Newer Netgear firmware when it detects the router is behind another router will go into "Wireless AP" mode where all 5 ports are bridged and the management IP changes from 192.168.1.1 to some 10.x.x.x address. I don't know how it detects this, maybe when it gets an RFC1918 address via DHCP?

[AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Rory Conaway
This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers this morning. The thing that surprised me was the 85% number. I'm not sure of the source of the data but if that's correct, then there is a huge opportunity that we all need to be looking at. In this case, it's a lowly Nanostation Loco M5 to

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Chuck McCown
50 Mbps CIR... This is starting to become an issue at the FCC. When they are trying to allocate welfare funds (aka USF and CAF) they are trying to decide who is worthy. Folks with FTTH say that CIR has to be the standard. Anyone can do 50 Mbps MIR with a variety of low cost options these

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Matt
Not sure what queue type PPPoE defaults too, likely default-small which seems to be pfifo with 10 packets on my pppoe server. What I am thinking is of a queue type that would be rate-limiting say an online backup at say 0.5 megabits per second upstream, the max for there pppoe profile. A

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I totally agree! There are huge areas of opportunity for wireless to get these speeds into the country and 'level up'. I think one of the bottlenecks is still getting that backhaul and middle mile fiber connectivity for cheaper to feed this. If the FCC could open more PTP frequency space in

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding strategies for water tanks

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Baird
Ok, so I have a little more information now. The city that owns these tanks forbids us to mount /anything/ directly to the tank it's self. They also forbid us to scrape any paint to ground anything. There is a thick rubber guard that covers the rails where the antennas are mounted. The

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding strategies for water tanks

2015-09-30 Thread Chuck McCown
The surge suppressors will still block transverse impulses but they will not be able to recognize longitudinal (common mode) impulses without a ground. Isn’t there a lightening rod or obstruction light up there that you could ground to? From: Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Nate Burke
Rogue DHCP Detection is setup, Needed with radios with no filters. No Rogue DHCP Detected. On 9/30/2015 10:07 AM, David wrote: Nate, Set up tower gateway to detect rouge dhcp server on the bridge interface and see if there is router facing the wrong way. This happens because of DOH!

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Matt
Saw in the ePMP knowledge base that they recommend changing queue type from default to wireless-default. In one of my mikrotik pppoe servers I look and see default is pfifo with 50 packets. Wireless-default is sfq with 5s and 1514bytes. What would advantages or reason for the change? I don't

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
It may be something everyone should be doing everywhere, I don't know. It's possible, perhaps even likely that the MT default PPPoE settings aren't optimal. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman"

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought Mikrotik PPPoE queues were always default-small, or is that because I use RADIUS? Personally I use RED but I think there are several choices that will work well, as long as you don't make the queue size too small. (10 packets is too small, around 50 is good.) I suspect your users

[AFMUG] Today on ISP Radio

2015-09-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: [AFMUG] having issues posting

2015-09-30 Thread David
Nver mind it was MIDI thingy LOL On 09/30/2015 10:05 AM, David wrote: I did a traceroute to the server and it looks like something up stream.. I am getting incoming posts but I cannot post. At first I thought it was my PDNS in my server but noo.. dave@Borg2:~$ traceroute 54.210.210.89

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO Routers setting up in bridge mode

2015-09-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
AFAIK, it would be based on what IP address gets handed out to the router via DHCP. And the instructions indicate you have to accept Wireless Access Point mode as part of the setup:

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Daniel White
Just got this. and yes this is my home internet connection I wonder what speed you need to get about the 85% benchmark. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Bad advice to assume that if you're not using ePMP then it doesn't apply. I don't know, but perhaps that's a general best practice that we should be using across more vendors. Cambium sure isn't going to tell you how to tweak your UBNT wireless etup. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

[AFMUG] having issues posting

2015-09-30 Thread David
I did a traceroute to the server and it looks like something up stream.. I am getting incoming posts but I cannot post. At first I thought it was my PDNS in my server but noo.. dave@Borg2:~$ traceroute 54.210.210.89 traceroute to 54.210.210.89 (54.210.210.89), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding strategies for water tanks

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Baird
Good question, I"ll have to check. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The surge suppressors will still block transverse impulses but they will > not be able to recognize longitudinal (common mode) impulses without a > ground. Isn’t there a lightening rod

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Well if you're not using ePMP that documentation really doesn't apply... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt wrote: > Saw in the ePMP knowledge base that they

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Queue Types

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
The advice may or may not apply. But if your issue is between Ubnt/MT I don't know if I'd take ePMP documentation to be fixing the issue. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
More PTP spectrum in lower bands? Why??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I totally agree! > > > > There are huge areas of opportunity for wireless

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Penetration and near or no line of site PTP links. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? More PTP spectrum in lower bands? Why???

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh I guess low is a relative word. I was thinking 1 GHz, 3 GHz, etc Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 30, 2015 12:50 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Long hops at high capacities? Something sub 10 GHz where you

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Long hops at high capacities? Something sub 10 GHz where you can do something like 100 MHz channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/30/15 09:45, Sterling Jacobson wrote: If the FCC could open more PTP frequency space in the lower bands and make licensing more available, it would totally change things. Part 101 is already easy IMO, what's the problem? ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
Even though mine was slower than others on the download I got mine to 99% my guess is because of upload. WHAT IS THIS? Based on the currently displayed results, connection grades show how you stack up with others in your country and around the world. For example if your value is 77% (giving you a

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I dunno where the space is, but we probably can't be too picky with where we're looking for licensed PtP space at large enough channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman"