Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Took a ctm off network and put in a 320 syncinjector 48v and a pmp100 injector 24 volt, dropped the apc load by ten percent Forrest for president On May 3, 2016 9:17 PM, "Paul McCall" wrote: Well, good job Forrest *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Well, good job Forrest From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:13 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption The only time you'd have a meaningful difference is if you shorted quite a few

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

The only time you'd have a meaningful difference is if you shorted quite a few of the output lines, and even then you'd have to short several to even get to a half a watt. The next iteration of gps modules will reduce this even further. On May 3, 2016 5:11 PM, "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Sprint put 100G DWDM on some of their 1980s build, maybe even some of those 400G super channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

We installed fiber at a nuke plant in 79 that is still going strong... It was actually the test case for which Union would get to call fiber it's own...It would have been done in 78 if the Unions hadn't fought over it for a year. And it has low dose rad exposure... On 05/03/2016 03:34

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Check out her keyboard skills. I still use the two finger method... On May 3, 2016 5:29 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Aw > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:52 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

This is easily solved by always running 2 ducts instead of one, or microducting. On May 3, 2016 5:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine > what electronics might be available in 50+ years. From a raw

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Aw From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:52 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components I am going to shut down the Internet for making fun of my grandpa On May 3, 2016 3:38 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I’m sure that just saying what everyone else is here but here’s my 2¢... I’d use iBGP to have full routing tables on the more upline routers (not necessarily only the peering routers) so that the best upload and download path can be calculated from the routing table. Then advertise the default

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

So you're saying that the SyncBox driving all 12 timing ports still uses like a 1/2 watt? That's freakin amazing. On 5/3/2016 6:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Power consumption is one of the selling points for my products which I don't do a very good job of promoting. I don't

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Power consumption is one of the selling points for my products which I don't do a very good job of promoting. I don't think there's a single product that I ship which takes even a watt. The sitemonitor base unit is the most hungry one and it's like 2/3 of a watt. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:50 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Actually, the newer version is more like 1/4W typical. 0.01A at 24V. -forrest On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I must be reading something wrong on Forrest’s web site… > > http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ > > > > says it consumes ½ watt ? at

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

Well someone has to know how to operate the Way Back Machine!!! On May 3, 2016 4:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yeah, I am a repository of increasingly useless information... > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:56 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Yeah, at the end of the day it is negligible in the grand scheme of consumption on a tower. The ½ watt just surprised me a bit From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Oh, sorry, we were agreeing. I misread. You have a good point... fortunately even 30 years from now I probably won't care, so it'll be my heirs' problem. :-) On 05/03/2016 03:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine what

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine what electronics might be available in 50+ years. From a raw bandwidth perspective and basic parameters like dB loss/km and frequencies available from 1270 to 1610nm, I can't see any reason why a two strand active-E

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You can always change the electronics. It's only glass - lots of ways to light it up. Changing the electronics is the cheap part. On 5/3/16 3:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I don't disagree with you but I do wonder what the ultimate life of modern singlemode fiber (G.652.D) is, assuming it's not

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

I don't disagree with you but I do wonder what the ultimate life of modern singlemode fiber (G.652.D) is, assuming it's not physically damaged. Could be more than 100 years? The oldest outside plant fiber that's still currently in use is, as far as I know, some of the 9/125 that was installed

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

I think the SyncPipe is like 1/4 watt. SyncBox probably not much more. Maybe a couple watts, 2-3 perhaps. On 5/3/2016 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You think? It's just a GPS receiver and some wiring. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

So first Chuck says "shit" then he starts trolling like Steve. What is this world coming to!? On 5/3/2016 4:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: Duh! Good one. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: The joke was

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

OPM other people's money Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 3, 2016 6:28 PM, "Bruce Robertson" wrote: > That's a nice developer! By them lots of drinks and steak dinners. If > you don't have the $150-$200k

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That's a nice developer! By them lots of drinks and steak dinners. If you don't have the $150-$200k handy, beg, borrow or steal it. Preferably not borrow... that hurts your return for the term of the loan. But it's still worth it for an asset that will be performing 100 years from now. On

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That does change things considerably. If I ever make it to an afmug I'll tell you about the 'take' rates in high rise urban condos with near-exclusivity. It'll make you guys who do last mile to individual houses drool. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > As

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

As for ROI the developer wants to give us an exclusive right and not put in copper for phone or TV ;) The take rate should be pretty high because their other option will be our wireless service. Sean On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > You will probably get 80% if

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

Yeah, I am a repository of increasingly useless information... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID that document is interesting reading, i never gave much thought about how it worked On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

that document is interesting reading, i never gave much thought about how it worked On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If you monitor the line, you can hear it between the first and second > rings. > Same FSK tones as are broadcast over your TV during a

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You have to look at it as building an asset that grows in value and pays a dividend. If you could buy a house for 100K that you would make 20% per year on for 20 years would you? On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > You will probably get 80% if you are the

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

If you monitor the line, you can hear it between the first and second rings. Same FSK tones as are broadcast over your TV during a weather alert. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID we dropped a

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

theyre getting a custom firmware with a timing adjustment On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > http://www.epanorama.net/documents/telecom/cid_bellcore.html > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:41 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/telecom/cid_bellcore.html From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID I only have a 4.95$ buttset with me, im glad it even shows cid On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

The Sync Box itself uses very little power. You do need to add up all the devices connected to it. bp On 5/3/2016 1:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: I must be reading something wrong on Forrest�s web site� http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ says it consumes

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

I only have a 4.95$ buttset with me, im glad it even shows cid On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > It is a bell 202 1200 baud burst of data. If your buttset shows it, it is > there. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

It is a bell 202 1200 baud burst of data. If your buttset shows it, it is there. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID we dropped a fortivoice last week, the office at the time didnt have caller

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Camera has the beer goggle app installed. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components Could the Afmug team start a GoFundMe page for Jaime's out of focus images? He needs a new camera or phone

[AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

we dropped a fortivoice last week, the office at the time didnt have caller ID, it got turned up today I can run the pots lines into an analog handset, it displays fine, so im assuming it is getting there. This is a brand new telco drop outside with a 25 foot interior demarc extension from the

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Could the Afmug team start a GoFundMe page for Jaime's out of focus images? He needs a new camera or phone On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Here is the isolated rail with terminal blocks, grounds, and fuses. If > you experience with panels

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Duh! Good one. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The joke was because your radio is failing... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Sam

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You will probably get 80% if you are the best value. And you don’t the full costs for homes that don’t take the service. No CPE, no enclosure, no drop, no sfp. Say $2500/customer. Say you clear $40/month. 40*12=480 480/2500 = 19.2% return from day one forever. What kind of mutual fund

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That math assumes an immediate 100% takeup rate... On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 1630/65 = 25 > > Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power. The next 25 months > and the 25 months after that... > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

1630/65 = 25 Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power. The next 25 months and the 25 months after that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

I don't see how the math works (at $150k and 92 homes) if the cost per unit served is $1630 per house. And your initial penetration rate will be far, far less than 100% of homes for monthly services. Even after 3-4 years a significant percentage may never sign up. Where's the ROI? On Tue, May 3,

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

The joke was because your radio is failing... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Dragon Wave Horizon Compact backhaul radio. preferably with 300 mbps > license

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Parle italiano? On May 3, 2016 2:54 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > Dragon Wave Horizon Compact backhaul radio. preferably with 300 mbps > license key. > 11 ghz Sub Band B > Low Transmit Side. > > Capice? > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

You think? It's just a GPS receiver and some wiring. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Just seems a little low > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Dragon Wave Horizon Compact backhaul radio. preferably with 300 mbps license key. 11 ghz Sub Band B Low Transmit Side. Capice? On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Can’t quite make out what you are saying, can you repeat... > > *From:* Sam Lambie

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Just seems a little low From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption Why would you expect it to be any different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Why would you expect it to be any different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I must be reading something wrong on Forrest’s web site… > >

[AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

I must be reading something wrong on Forrest's web site... http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ says it consumes ½ watt ? at 24volts So like... 0.020833 amps seems really low... unless the medication I am on is affecting my cranial vault processing unit Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet /

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Can’t quite make out what you are saying, can you repeat... From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio I have a radio that is failing we think and I am looking for a replacement. Anyone out

[AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

I have a radio that is failing we think and I am looking for a replacement. Anyone out there? sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

A whole 50 bucks. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question What’s the cost for that unit? From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Man, that sucks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build Hoover is getting out of vacuums? bp On 5/3/2016 11:42 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: If

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Splice cases, the number and size, will depend on the design. You want to minimize the splice cases, but that has to be balanced on how many drops are you pulling back through the system to the splice. You can minimize hand holes too if you want to run the drop tubes longer. We typically

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We plan on not having to ever do it. but we stacked our priority customers on one /24 so if there were service issues on one of the upstreams or if we unexpectedly saturated one we could force them to use just the one On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:09 PM, John Babineaux

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Awesome Chuck that's exactly what I was looking for! Sterling I might be buying you a vacation to Steamboat Springs, CO soon ;-) This list is such an amazing resource!!! Thanks guys, -Sean On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Figure one handhole per 2

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Add splice cases. And NIDs for each home with splice tray. I don’t mind helping out, give me a call some time Sean. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I would advertise all networks on each connection. You can Prepend to an extent to help prefer traffic coming back on a certain connection. This cannot be prepended to high or some strip it off. It broke the internet once by someone putting a really large one….. If one connection

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Figure one handhole per 2 homes. So 46 handholes. 1.25” between all handholes. .75” duct from each handhole to each dwelling for drops. You can run 144 count fiber for spares. Drop down to 96 or 48 count as it tapers going down the runs. You will need a cabinet with a distribution panel,

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

:) On May 3, 2016 1:44 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Hoover is getting out of vacuums? > > > bp > > > > On 5/3/2016 11:42 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > If we weren't in the middle of several large projects ourselves, we would > normally be more than

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

If we weren't in the middle of several large projects ourselves, we would normally be more than happy to help. Our CEO has been building fiber and power networks for over thirty years, and "may have been highly involved in a certain fiber project for a large company with two O's in the middle of

[AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Hello, We are in talks with a developer who is planning a subdivision on a ~50 acre lot for 92 homes and he wants us to deliver FTTH. Is there anyone on this list who would like to consult with us so that we can get the plan done right from the get go? The developer will be doing all the

[AFMUG] Telrad CPE POE options

Hello, We have been told by our distributor that they don't have any Telrad POEs to sell to us. What other options exist? Is the CPE 802.3at?? Thanks, Sean

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

thank you guys Now another question, one of our providers is solid, the other..well. What kind of issues can come up with a basic BGP implementaion (we are taking the full tables) that will hurt us. Like is there some way that even if we stop announcing one of the /24 on their circuit theyll

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

One more thing BGP will pass a Default route to OSPF that will propagate it so that’s how it will know. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Babineaux Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF It’s pretty simple. You

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

It’s pretty simple. You create a connection with your up streams using your ASN and their ASN. You need ip connectivity to the other router (prob your gateway but could be another router). And a password if required or preferred. Next you setup filters to only allow what networks you

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

If you can get the VPI/VCI information try a Huawei HG610. Operates as a true bridge. It'll do ADSL2+ or VDSL2 with pretty much any DSLAM. It's a cheap DSL modem, the only thing that might fail in it is a capacitor (if you're super paranoid replace the cheap capacitors before deploying it).

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Yes, works fine with Meanwell RSD100 set up as -48VDC or similar. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Any powersupply or combination of power supplies can do this if they don’t > tie either side to ground. > Two 24 volt units in series will work. > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Peltiers (TECs)

I have found some TECs that are claiming 2500 to 4000BTU/h, but they're crazy priced compared to small AC units. Also their efficiency is terrible in terms of kWh for cooling. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yes, extensive trials. In the end, white

Re: [AFMUG] ippay's outage yesterday

Yesterday was the 2nd... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Wrong day to go down, on the first of the month, start of a new billing > cycle. > > > > Not

Re: [AFMUG] ippay's outage yesterday

Wrong day to go down, on the first of the month, start of a new billing cycle. Not happy with that, hope they get better redundancy etc. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We have a /21, OSPF internally, no iBGP. eBGP from two peers gets default route only. I inject both via OSPF. I send the whole /21 to both peers. OSPF default sends outbound traffic to the nearest edge. Prepends to one peer gets the inbound traffic mostly balanced out. That's about as simple

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I understand this, but its still a second new component to something I already am not competent in On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:25 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > iBGP and eBGP are the same thing as far as configuration goes. (i) means > you are using BGP

[AFMUG] ippay's outage yesterday

Alert - if you had transactions attempt to process during ippay's outage yesterday, we're taking calls today that they did indeed go through - although ippay was down (or was not sending proper response codes back to your billing software) Might be on the lookout for that. We are now

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

If I’m reading the diagram correctly…don’t see a chassis ground. http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf Think I’ll check with an ammeter before connecting anything. Thanks all, J From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Probably also want the managed-config-other flag if you want to hand out v6 DNS servers. In order for this to work, the MikroTik (assuming you're MikroTik) would also have to have v6 DNS servers listed in IP-DNS (which seems counter intuitive to me). Don't forget

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Any powersupply or combination of power supplies can do this if they don’t tie either side to ground. Two 24 volt units in series will work. From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question Anybody know if there’s

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

What’s the cost for that unit? From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question If I’m reading the diagram correctly…don’t see a chassis ground. http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf Think

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

iBGP and eBGP are the same thing as far as configuration goes. (i) means you are using BGP internal to your network and (e) means you are using BGP to your providers. How you set them up is exactly the same. The only different with multi-hop is that you have to set the maximum number of hops away

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

No, I cant add any topology changes or try to bring in unfamiliar things like ibgp or mpls/vpls while bringing in something unfamiliar like BGP unless I run out of interim options On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > With Mikrotik,

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 Install - Drone

Well, I mean the difference essentially comes down to vertical pattern and beamwidth. KP has gain and that's great. But we always run into a situation where we put a sector at 200 feet or more to try to get 10 miles out, but there's potential customers pretty close to the tower. The null fill

Re: [AFMUG] pmp100's firmware not in 2x

Dude I wish Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > ​ok my bad...ya forgot to check ap > > long day...its not Friday yet?? > > thanks for the info > > >

Re: [AFMUG] pmp100's firmware not in 2x

?ok my bad...ya forgot to check ap long day...its not Friday yet?? thanks for the info From: Af on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 1:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp100's

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

That looks like it might have isolated output (implies that if you look at the isolation specs). In that case you can use it for either +48V ground or -48V ground. bp On 5/3/2016 10:04 AM, Jeremy Grip wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

With Mikrotik, depending on your typology, running iBGP over layer 3 is probably better than EoIP. In the past, I wasn't happy with the way things worked over EoIP. It's now over a direct, layer 2 connection and works 100%. You can run setup multi-hop BGP routing to do it over layer 3 (single

[AFMUG] pmp100's firmware not in 2x

?not sure if this has been noticed before but I am running 5.7 sm with firmware 13.4.1 on the home screen Session status says its registered at rate 1X/1X but if I go into configuration under Dynamic Rate Adapt I have the choice of putting 1x/2x which is what is selected doesn't this mean

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Can’t this be connected either polarity? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

http://www.amazon.com/Mean-Well-NES-350-48-Power-Supply/dp/B00L1GZIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1462295010=8-1=meanwell+nes-350-48 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Manage-config flag I think was the missing piece of the puzzle for me. Thanks for the info!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Jesse DuPont wrote: > (Background: all

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

(Background: all our SM's are bridged). For IPoE, we're having to do both SLAAC and DHCPv6-PD towards customers. SLAAC gives their router a global v6 address on their router's WAN port (needed if it's originating any v6 traffic such as DNS proxy, NTP, etc., but no

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

That link doesn't work. Does the el-cheapo power supply have isolated output? if not, then the chassis ground will affect which polarity you can use. bp On 5/3/2016 9:46 AM, Jeremy Grip wrote: Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Broken link http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2149600.pdf This one says there is a +48v but I don't see a -48v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Jeremy Grip wrote: >

[AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Anybody know if there’s a reason I can’t take a generic low-end power supply like this: http://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=nes-350 and tie the DC+ side to ground to supply a -48V that calls for grounding the positive side? Jeremy Grip North Branch

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Yeah, I got'cha. MPLS between the two BGP routers solves this, too. Without the L2 or MPLS, there'd be a routing loop. I generally set local pref so that once traffic reaches an edge router, it goes out that way, even if it's not the shortest AS path. Unless

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Do you mind if I ask how you're managing v6? How are you allotting customer blocks/IPs? How do you hand off the v6? DHCPv6? SLAAC? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jesse DuPont

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Correct, but it's a bit cleaner if they are. The two different routers will be advertising default routes. Traffic will go to the nearest Provider Edge (PE) router. If the other PE router has the better route, having them connected via layer 2 better moves the traffic to the other PE.

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

We're 100% dual-stacked, v4/v6. If a customer's router supports v6, they'll get a prefix from us. Here are the interesting points: About 40% of all our customer have a v6 prefix (i.e. at a minimum their routers support v6). Any router we sell is configured

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

VPLS is not currently present, thats on my "to learn" list On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote: > The two BGP routers do not need to be on the same L2 network for the iBGP > connection. > > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Network Architect > email:

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Everything is RB100ahx2 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > A BGP speaker would be a router speaking BGP. In this case, most likely > your routers at the edge of your network that connect to your providers. > > Are the routers that are between your two BGP

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

The two BGP routers do not need to be on the same L2 network for the iBGP connection. Jesse DuPont Network Architect

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Is my EOIP tunnel sufficient for that as a layer2 connectivity between the two? My OSPF would still be the same (default route from each?) On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Replace "speaker" with "router." > > Each ISP with have a

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