Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

the demo guys previously had probably only blown up cheap chinese steel. this was old US steel On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Interesting. > > On Oct 11, 2016 11:02 PM, "Robert" wrote: > >> This was probably all shaped

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

Interesting. On Oct 11, 2016 11:02 PM, "Robert" wrote: > This was probably all shaped cutting charges... The problem with that is > the internals of the steel. They usually pre-cut some of the members to > determine the composition of the charges and if they cut the

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

Very simple explanation... We used to make shit that lasted Pride in our work... I like older trucks because they don't crush like a Coors can On Oct 11, 2016 9:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > OK, mechanical stuff is not my strong point. But for anyone who watched > the video

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

This was probably all shaped cutting charges... The problem with that is the internals of the steel. They usually pre-cut some of the members to determine the composition of the charges and if they cut the wrong member they get the wrong results... On 10/11/16 8:50 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

On 10/11/16 8:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: OK, mechanical stuff is not my strong point. But for anyone who watched the video of the failed bridge implosion in Little Rock, Arkansas, what were they thinking? It seems they rigged explosives on the arch and the bridge deck, both of which are in

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

Pretty sure they didn't think the steel was going to be that resilient. Its a far away shot, but it doesn't look like there's anything but superficial damage. On Oct 11, 2016 10:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > I have just enough nautical knowledge to seem stupid on the

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

I'd hit the 4 connecting points of the lower section to the arch, then charges all the way across the arch peak. Detcord around the top of each cable. Failing that, there's always thermite or thermate. On Oct 11, 2016 10:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > OK, mechanical stuff is not

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

I have just enough nautical knowledge to seem stupid on the Internet... My theory is that they were planning to neatly cut it into medium sized chunks that could be reasonably lifted out of the river with a medium sized crane on a flat barge and carried away. Severing the whole thing and dropping

[AFMUG] OT - bridge implosion

OK, mechanical stuff is not my strong point. But for anyone who watched the video of the failed bridge implosion in Little Rock, Arkansas, what were they thinking? It seems they rigged explosives on the arch and the bridge deck, both of which are in compression. It seems to me they needed to

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

Sounds like they intend to return them to where they were before “austerity” measures. Also it looks like food is exempt from VAT. https://www.gov.uk/vat-rates From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:22 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

It sounds almost honest when they plan to decrease the rate. I'd be absolutely shocked if that ever happened here. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 11, 2016, at 9:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Looks to me that the tax bite is less than what I pay and they

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

VAT is a pretty big bite... But it's fair across the wealth spectrum... On 10/11/16 6:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Looks to me that the tax bite is less than what I pay and they get NHS to boot. *From:* Jon Langeler *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

Looks to me that the tax bite is less than what I pay and they get NHS to boot. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax So what's your opinion compared to the US? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Oct

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

CRI is a pretty big deal for LEDS. I am currently working on a high bay LED replacement for very high (1000 Watt Metal Halide) replacements. Have been working on this for a year so don't hold your breath. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:35 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

I think it's actually pretty slick for a dumb ptp bridge for people wanting to connect an outbuilding on the cheap with no tech knowlege or expectation of security. We approach everything looking for the knob switches, and cli. My dad just wants Internet out in his shop On Oct 11, 2016 7:42 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

So what's your opinion compared to the US? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > From my daughter: > > We pay an effective rate of 8.5% in direct tax on our combined household > income. > This is income tax (which

[AFMUG] Working with the old man

With our 320 disaster in play we are offloading to epmp, any available techs will be knocking out subscribers tommorrow, and I'm loading out an abab cluster at a grain elevator. My dad offered to help, and the boss approved. I'm going to have the best God d@%ned tech tommorrow, he might be 76 and

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

That’s actually quite pretty. I think the effect of those holes on windload though will be negligible. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

Well, that is an interesting idea. I'm not comvinced it's a good idea, but it is an interesting idea... On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Somehow “DIP switches” seems to have become “Dialer”. At least I assume > that’s a bank of DIP switches next to the RJ45

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP Watchdog Reset

I tried 14.2.1 same issue Sent while mobile > On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > 14.2.1 was just released but I haven't tried it yet. > > We are also seeing watchdog resets on 14.2 > > -Sean > > >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Ryan Ray

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

Somehow “DIP switches” seems to have become “Dialer”. At least I assume that’s a bank of DIP switches next to the RJ45 jack? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Something else, color temperature may range from 2700K to 5000K, but when I was shopping for fluorescent bulbs, I was told to look at the CRI number on the package (Color Rendering Index) which is not at all the same as color temperature. I found it correlated more to price. Big box stores would

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

That's a good idea. I don't think I need all of the illumination of three bulbs per light case anyways. So I'll probably just replace as they burn out and only end up with two LED units per case/fixture instead of the three. Utah has a lighting incentive that pays 75% of the switchover

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

The code for those DIP switches is here: http://www.vjjt.com/pro-view.php?id=50 Creative idea, but I don't see any real case where it's useful - you'll always want a PC or similar around. On Oct 11, 2016 6:17 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > What does Dialer have to do with

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

I have seen Ubnt radios with different label marketed to farmers and ranchers... On Oct 11, 2016 5:00 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > > > *From:* VJJT > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:00 PM > *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Subject:* DialerStation N5 > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

Only José can install and operate this radio, not Manuel! On Oct 11, 2016 6:15 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Hahaha, “No manuel”. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

What does Dialer have to do with anything? Setting by dialer? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5 Hahaha, “No manuel”. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

Hahaha, “No manuel”. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5 From: VJJT Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:00 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

Wonder if that’ll still be going down with the devaluation of the pound. > On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > From my daughter: > > We pay an effective rate of 8.5% in direct tax on our combined household > income. > This is income tax (which pays for

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

T8s give off about 100 lumens per watt. Really good LEDS may be 120 or 140. So yes they are a bit better but it is not enormous. Perhaps 30% savings at most. But never having to change a bulb again is a fantastic reason for doing this. I don't buy the reduction in heat load too much. If

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP Watchdog Reset

14.2.1 was just released but I haven't tried it yet. We are also seeing watchdog resets on 14.2 -Sean On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Ryan Ray wrote: > I just upgraded an AP to test 14.2 and I'm also getting watchdog resets. > I've rolled everything back to 14.1.2 and it's

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Check lumens per watt. Yes you can do it yourself. Lights last much longer but lumens per watt they are on par with fluorescent. I would do it as the bulbs burn out. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:30 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject:

[AFMUG] OT cheap UBNT knockoff Fw: DialerStation N5

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[AFMUG] OT England NHS & Tax

>From my daughter: We pay an effective rate of 8.5% in direct tax on our combined household income. This is income tax (which pays for government services including the NHS) and National Insurance which pays for pensions and benefits. The largest indirect tax is VAT (sales tax) which is 20%.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

now the cdc or fda, one of the acronyms are saying LEDs are bad, making us into violent zombies or something of that nature and shutting down our pancreases and melting icebergs so there will be no baby seals left to club On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

I came into this thread late, but I was once told that the replacements where you remove the ballast and wire line voltage to the ends are 'not allowed' because they change the UL rating of the Fixture, and therefore could be pointed to in a fire. I'm not sure if that is actually true or not.

Re: [AFMUG] Core Alignment Splicer

+1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Kunat Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Core Alignment Splicer INNO 5 works great for us. No complaints. Over 1500 splices over the past year and it just chugs along. On Oct 11, 2016, at

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Sterling, Go for it. We did it earlier this year. HUGE difference in lighting. Really brightens up the office. There are a couple variations. There are ones when you don't remove the ballast. I wouldn't do that. They have ones that have positive / negative on each tombstone (the center

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP Watchdog Reset

I just upgraded an AP to test 14.2 and I'm also getting watchdog resets. I've rolled everything back to 14.1.2 and it's all gravy. Was also getting some SM's that just wouldn't connect. Wouldn't see the AP anymore after going onto 14.2. I would stay away from this one everyone. On Tue, Oct 4,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

For office maybe, I wouldn’t put 5000K bulbs in my house. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED 5000k, because paper should look white. On 10/11/2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

5000k, because paper should look white. On 10/11/2016 2:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: youll feel like youre living in a black and white movie for a while if you dont get the right bulbs. the boss changed his office out, just a ballast and bulb swap, it took about 6 months to get used to,

Re: [AFMUG] Core Alignment Splicer

INNO 5 works great for us. No complaints. Over 1500 splices over the past year and it just chugs along. > On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:29 AM, LD Barthlome wrote: > > We are in need of another core alignment splicer, we currently have all > Fujikura splicers and have been happy with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

youll feel like youre living in a black and white movie for a while if you dont get the right bulbs. the boss changed his office out, just a ballast and bulb swap, it took about 6 months to get used to, the lack of expected shadows is unnerving On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Robert Andrews

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Has anyone documented LED interference? That's what I thought this thread was going to be about when I saw the subject... On 10/11/2016 11:40 AM, George Skorup wrote: Any time we have a fluorescent ballast die, we just replace with LEDs. Rip the ballast out and wire it 110 hot. We get 4 foot

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Any time we have a fluorescent ballast die, we just replace with LEDs. Rip the ballast out and wire it 110 hot. We get 4 foot T8 size internal transformer 120v bulbs for like $10 each, shipped. They pull about 15 watts and put out 30, 35 or 40W "equivalent". I forget exactly how much. All I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Looks like I need to check the direct replacement bulbs from Philips with my system to see if they are compatible. If they are, that would be less than $500 shipped to replace all of them if I do it myself. That would probably end up being well under a 1 year ROI in that case. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Family purchased a lakehouse about this time last year ; we converted all the lightning to LED bulbs. We own another lakehouse similar in size (in fact they are reverse floor plans). The light bill for the new one is about $150 less than the other one. Which would lead you to askwhy

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

When I built my new office building we used all LED. The garage lights were about $600 each. They are the same ones used under the Gas station canopies put up these days. I think all the LED lighting cost about $4500 which is about double what regular lighting would have cost. No idea what my

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

I just replaced over 300 T8 bulbs with LED ones. I was able to leave the ballasts in place, so these do draw a little more than 100% LED fixtures, but I calculated the ROI to be about 5 years. These are the ones I used:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Do you currently have T12 tubes? If so, I would replace them with T8 (or possibly T5), the ballast will have to change to a high frequency electronic ballast, it may be easier to change the whole fixture. If this is an unheated area, get the tubes that start at low temperatures. Also, I seem to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

I will also relate what we did in our kitchen. Our kitchen had two recessed fluorescent lights that consumed about 160 watts total. We replaced those with 9 recessed LED lights that consume 60 watts total. So we save about 100 watts if we run them at 100% power; which we rarely do. The LED

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Based on the numbers you gave, you'd end up saving around $14 a year in power. The installation and equipment could run between $3500-$4200, roughly. On Oct 11, 2016 12:30 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Anyone ever replaced their standard fluorescence ceiling lights with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

I can't tell you specifics, but we have a friend that converted a hardware store from fluorescent to LED. it was part of a remodel, so I think he did a wholesale replacement without having to retrofit any fixtures. He has claimed that it is an enormous amount of power savings (he owns a

[AFMUG] OT Office Lighting Change to LED

Anyone ever replaced their standard fluorescence ceiling lights with LEDs? I haven't researched it much yet, but someone told me you can't just use a drop in long bulb replacement. You have to change out the center piece, forgot what that's called. Is that correct? Is this something I can do

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

Can I apply to join a sovereign tribal nation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_sovereignty_in_the_United_States That’s probably no bed of roses. Is there an Ecuadorean embassy in Illinois?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

Diplomatic immunity, buddy. Go to Canada and get as many DUI's as you want. -- Original Message -- From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 10/11/2016 12:34:13 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Im down. but I found out

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

Funny thing about that is that it has been tried before. Gov'mint doesn't like it when you make your own country inside their country. We fought a whole civil war about that. The constitution provides a way to join the union, but not a way to leave. Aint no goin backnot even for Texas.

[AFMUG] Core Alignment Splicer

We are in need of another core alignment splicer, we currently have all Fujikura splicers and have been happy with them. It is hard not to look at the Inno View 5 and 7 due to the price. Has anyone had any experience with the Inno brand. Thanks L.D. Barthlome

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

CIA DDO From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Im down. but I found out today my 20 year old DUIs exclude me from entering Canada, so any dealings with them will have to take place at the border. But I like

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

You can vote for Jill Stein, who thinks WiFi is frying our kids brains. http://www.sciencealert.com/us-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-thinks-wi-fi-is-a-threat-to-children-s-health -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] i need an adult

I hope it works for you through the solid mile of trees, I’m skeptical though. It seems to me like a golfer trying every new brand of club and ball that comes out hoping to find one that goes straight through a mile of trees to the green. You may get incremental improvement, but I know people

Re: [AFMUG] i need an adult

Can you drop all your sectors to 5mhz channel size? I realize this will cut into your throughput, but may give you solid connections. Also, drop your TX power on the AP as much as you can before you start dropping SM's. You should also be more conservative on your C/N table base. Maybe drop it to