[AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I want to buy another selection of gigabit copper to sfp converters for reverse engineering purposes. Ideally some which are known to work well and especially any which don't fail in non climate controlled environments. What is everyone using?

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet?

Govnet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet? govnet or firstnet? On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

Yeah, that is like driving a Chevy Silverado 3500HD with lifts, an engine chip and a monster smokestack in the bed, when you really need a Leaf to get groceries. Some folks just gotta have their candy and we are the candy man. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:26 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

I find it funny these people are taking to Facebook about this... adding another piece of data Facebook can track and sell. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:23 PM, wrote: > Yeah, it was never intended to cover us. It really was intended to keep > the big boys from blocking competing

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

What we've seen is that if you offer 20/100/500Mbps plans, the usage is more or less the same but some folks need the fastest and just pay more. :-) For better or worse, seems like everyone knows they want a gigabit now... On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:22 PM David Milholen

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

I suspect what's really held back TVWS is the lack of a more globally adopted band. That's really what 2.4/5/60 all have in common. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:18 PM David Milholen wrote: > To add to my last > > > > What I was getting at was a replacement for 900 band

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

The question I would ask is Who really needs gigabit to a home? Or for that matter a small to medium business? Numbers look cool when they get bigger especially when $$ are smaller behind them. I am just thinking of the days of making the best of what we have and making more with less.

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Chicago playing tonight

Guercio stole millions from them in their heydayVenue sold out with average tickets at 89.50 each person plus service fees. On Mar 29, 2017 7:02 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Hey, they have to make $$$. Records arent selling like they used to… > > From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

To add to my last What I was getting at was a replacement for 900 band devices like these and smart meter resolve... Really DOH! LOL On 3/29/2017 8:09 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: ;-) On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:21 AM Mike Hammett > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

I really wish someone would put whitespace to a more practical use than trying to size up to Carrier grade wireless deployments and look at indoor use or even campus use. IE medical could use this band for nurse call and paging. There could be some control access and remote monitoring from

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Chicago playing tonight

Hey, they have to make $$$. Records arent selling like they used to… From: Af > on behalf of Jaime Solorza > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Italian Mexican Food

Interesting that you speak Portuguese...Much harder to learn than Spanish , Which would go a long way when speaking with Paisano's .Their is a club in Cd. Juarez called the Kentucky Club where the margarita was created supposedly.Good Mexican food is really not that complicatedDo they

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

Sometime you say something that still catches me off guard. Thanks for that! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:34 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history So a few minutes ago I was

[AFMUG] OT: Italian Mexican Food

I'm in Milan for the MUM Europe and we've been eating Authentic Italian all week. Staying in the city center and the conference is in a more "rural" area. Not a lot of access to places to eat, so apparently everyone goes to the food court in the shopping mall next to the conference center. I came

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

So a few minutes ago I was caught on AppleMaps cameras on top of van with GPS and other antennas. They had six cameras on top of van...Nice looking onesDo I get to claim royalties if my image is used on their maps? Or will they filter my finger out? On Mar 29, 2017 5:24 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

Yeah, it was never intended to cover us. It really was intended to keep the big boys from blocking competing services. Like Comcast blocking Netflix. Network neutrality was the common name of the rules. Those same rules said we could not throttle or use something like procera to traffic

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

Here is WISPAs filing: http://www.wispa.org/Portals/37/Docs/Press%20Releases/Reply_to_Oppositions_to_Privacy_Petitions_for_Reconconsideration.pdf?ver=2017-03-16-184820-080 -sean On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:05 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Has anyone here been offered money for

[AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

Has anyone here been offered money for data on clients web browsing or other online activity? Have you ever sought and found a company that would buy it? Is there a known case of an ISP doing this? I'm betting all 3 are "no". A couple of friends are going nuts on Facebook about the

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

You can force the old M-TOWs onto 4.5 most of the time. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 4:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe? On 3/29/17 14:33, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Only Streakwave stocks. Everyone else

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

On 3/29/17 14:33, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Only Streakwave stocks. Everyone else drop ships from my factory. And we have fairly decent levels of traffic on these parts so they are almost always fresh. I do normally buy them from Streakwave, so I'll have to ask. The MTOW wanted to use I

Re: [AFMUG] Moxa switch

HaYes. I am aware of that Wondering what they come up with tomorrow On Mar 29, 2017 3:18 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > That’s not a proper operational control panel until you take all those > pretty wire way covers and throw them in the bottom of the box. > > I would

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet?

govnet or firstnet? On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > These people are a little hard to get a hold of. > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* > > *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>* > >

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

We do DWDM and those are always terminated on a patch panel with fusion splicing. Strictly on ONTs. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors Anyone who does DWDM will shudder at what you just posted. On Wed, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

Only Streakwave stocks. Everyone else drop ships from my factory. And we have fairly decent levels of traffic on these parts so they are almost always fresh. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for

Re: [AFMUG] Moxa switch

That’s not a proper operational control panel until you take all those pretty wire way covers and throw them in the bottom of the box. I would seriously suggest getting a small enclosure to terminate the fiber cable into and then using a patch cable between the switch and the fiber patch.

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Anyone who does DWDM will shudder at what you just posted. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, wrote: > We use Unicams everywhere. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:01 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors > > I have a vendor

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

So I guess the answer is make sure the vendor doesn't send you one from stock, but gets you a new new one. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/29/2017 4:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe? I changed them all a few months ago to fit 5

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

I was gonna Never mind, I am washing my brain with soap now. Sorry, please continue... On Mar 29, 2017 2:52 PM, wrote: > Yes, all will go to 5 inches now. > > -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, March 29, > 2017 1:39 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

We use them on thousands of outdoor ONTs. Never a problem. From: Trey Scarborough Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors I can say from experience that I would not use Uni-cams in an outdoor cabinet. I have had many of them fail.

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

Yes, all will go to 5 inches now. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:39 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe? Is there an MTOW that will attach to a 4.5" diameter pipe? ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

I changed them all a few months ago to fit 5 inch. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe? On 3/29/17 12:40, Mathew Howard wrote: I believe they all will. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

I can say from experience that I would not use Uni-cams in an outdoor cabinet. I have had many of them fail. The other issue you get with them is that they can cause issues with DWDM systems if you ever plan on using something like that at the sight. if you are using them for the bottom of a

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix WS-12-250-dc - spares available

what kind of port sensitivity issues did you see? On 3/29/2017 1:32 PM, Paul McCall wrote: If anybody is looking for these, we have 5 of them we are selling, 4 opened, new in box, 1 open box (may not be original box) - $ 360 each. I mention this before Friday because I know people were

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

I want to say this was changed very recently, like a few weeks or maybe a couple of months. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/29/17 12:44, Seth

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

On 3/29/17 12:44, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 3/29/17 12:40, Mathew Howard wrote: I believe they all will. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote: Is there an MTOW that will attach to a 4.5" diameter pipe? ~Seth I tried

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

I wonder if the pipe is a bit over 4.5" then... as far as I can remember, it should be 4.5" between the bolts on an M-TOW. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Chuck recently changed them to 5", so if you get a new one it ought to work. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Seth Mattinen

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

On 3/29/17 12:40, Mathew Howard wrote: I believe they all will. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote: Is there an MTOW that will attach to a 4.5" diameter pipe? ~Seth I tried an M-TOW-10 and it was barely too small.

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

I believe they all will. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Is there an MTOW that will attach to a 4.5" diameter pipe? > > ~Seth >

[AFMUG] MTOW for 4.5" OD pipe?

Is there an MTOW that will attach to a 4.5" diameter pipe? ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Server plus

I would say SP is very good but not perfect. We have to police them a bit at times. I can’t imagine the daunting task of keep good people in that position of talking to complaining customers all day. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March

[AFMUG] Netonix WS-12-250-dc - spares available

If anybody is looking for these, we have 5 of them we are selling, 4 opened, new in box, 1 open box (may not be original box) - $ 360 each. I mention this before Friday because I know people were looking for them and Netonix is out of stock directly. We settled on the S16's up the tower and

[AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet?

These people are a little hard to get a hold of. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full;

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Yeah thanks, I found that too. I guess I just wasn't looking with my eyes open last night. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/29/2017 1:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors All orange would

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Given the high cost and PITA of SOCs, I've often wondered about using something like this http://www.ntt-at.com/product/pop311/ to just do our own connectors. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > All orange would generally indicate MM. All yellow

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

All orange would generally indicate MM. All yellow would be SM. You can get them color coded as well. http://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/cable/fan-out-break-out-kits/fis-12-color-coded-break-out-kit-40-tubing-3mm-for-250um.html On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] epmp replacements

nevermind :) ePMP radios running System Release 2.1 or earlier cannot be directly upgraded to System Release 2.6.1 or later. Please upgrade to System Release 2.6 first, then upgrade to System Release 2.6.1 or later. Stepping through System Release 2.6 is not required if the ePMP radio is

[AFMUG] epmp replacements

We lost some epmp radios ; have spares They are ancient firmware. Whats best upgrade path? Can't go directly to current. (i will now google while waiting for a reply) thanks :)

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

I've got a couple reels of 3/8" steel cable. Definitely not light stuff... On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett wrote: > 1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing > > 2+2 = 7 > > I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's not too far out of whack > either. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Some figure 8 has a solid stainless steel wire rather than the cable. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON 1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing 2+2 = 7 I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's not too

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing 2+2 = 7 I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's not too far out of whack either. Figure-8 is also wicked heavy. The spool weight will surprise you. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Yikes, I've bought 72 strand ADSS for less than that. On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett wrote: > The most recent quote I got was $0.83/ft. > It's way expensive, but no separate messenger strand. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jason McKemie"

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors Adam, We just got 50 of these to try.  Not sure if I would trust them in an unprotected area.  We are going to start using them next week to see if they are worth it. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Adam, We just did this in a small area using about 9000' of 12 drop fiber. Using two OLT ports and some creative splitting we are able to service 64 lots in that area. Only about 20 of them are currently built out and 15 of those 20 signed up. I'm sure the other 5 will come in within the next

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

The most recent quote I got was $0.83/ft. It's way expensive, but no separate messenger strand. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/29/2017 11:54:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON Gotcha.

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Gotcha. What sort of pricing are you getting on the 12 strand figure-8? I've been using ADSS up to this point since I can get closer to the neutral with it, but figure-8 might work in some new deployment scenarios. On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Yeah Figure 8 is the best if you don’t lash. Make sure to put some twists in it between poles otherwise it will dance in the wind and may destroy itself. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON Figure-8 drop. Flat

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Not cheap and the connectors are about $15 each I think. But they never fail in my experience. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors I just watched a video. The installation tool for Unicam looks really slick.

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Figure-8 drop. Flat drop cable at $0.16/foot would certainly be cost attractive, but I assumed it can't go 500' aerialsome poles are that far apart. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/29/2017

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

The old telephone drop wire with P clamps was good for perhaps 300 feet spans max. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable? I've got a couple

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

I just watched a video. The installation tool for Unicam looks really slick. It appears to be a mechanical connection with index matching gel. The same vendor pushing SOC's was poo-pooing mechanical connections. They say the index matching gel changes from clear to clearish/brownish as it

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable? I've got a couple scenarios that I was looking at using 12ct flat drop, but the only way I can think of to get it in the air is by using wedge clamps. Not sure if these are good for the distance between some of the utility poles

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Last night I had looked at the Corning Spiderwhich is a 3mm fan out, but every tube is orange, whereas the 900um ones kept the color coding. If I can get 3mm without losing the color coding I'll definitely do it. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson"

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Thanks for the tip. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/29/2017 11:17:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors The good SOCs are expensive and a pain. The Cheap SOCs are a real pain and it takes

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

The good SOCs are expensive and a pain. The Cheap SOCs are a real pain and it takes awhile to find good ones. Some of the ones we have gotten from China were just junk. Others were OK. If you are going to do a fan out on loose tube, do it at 3mm and not 900um. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:10

Re: [AFMUG] Haiti

Yeah.It was always a bit of communication challenge, but he could read lips fairly well if you were facing him directly. There was pretty typically a sign language class taught for a couple of hours once a week by Tom at the church building. On Mar 29, 2017 9:07 AM, wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

We use Unicams everywhere. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:01 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors I have a vendor who's really pimping their SOC's. The idea is you can splice the connector onto a 900um fiber and then plug directly into your

Re: [AFMUG] Haiti

In my alternate universe, Valerie and Marie like to have hot tub parties with me. From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Haiti Yes she has along with Valerie Bertinelli Thank You, Brian Webster From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Haiti

Was Tom the deaf one? I had an employee that was a teen age neighbor/friend. Marie would play the game where you mix something nasty and make the others taste it. She was a bit if a “mean girl” if I remember the story properly. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: [AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

Where I see future regret is if one of those 900um breaks then I'll have to splice a pigtail onto it and I'll end up with a splice tray anyway. If it breaks too far back to splice the pigtail on, then I have to bring more of the OSP cable into the enclosure and re-do the whole fanoutor

[AFMUG] Splice on Connectors

I have a vendor who's really pimping their SOC's. The idea is you can splice the connector onto a 900um fiber and then plug directly into your electronics. No splice tray. So in theory I could put a fan out kit on each buffer tube coming into an enclosure and then with SOC's go directly

Re: [AFMUG] Server plus

100% LOL no still human 90% probably Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > I know lents not over, but Jesus (Mexican fella down on the corner who had >

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

I think the idea is you can run a 12 strand aerial cable down a rural road. Since you're using this skinny cable, you can use a $40 closure to put a PON coupler in front of the customer prem. My quick estimate is the difference might be around $6,000 per mile.that changes with

Re: [AFMUG] Haiti

Yes she has along with Valerie Bertinelli Thank You, Brian Webster From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:03 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Haiti She has aged like a fine wine On Mar 28, 2017 11:00 PM, "Rory

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

;-) On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:21 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Who's that? > > One of our customers uses 11ad to let people deploy low cost gigabit > wireless links. 11ay is really going to up that rate further to in excess > of a gigabit per second and bring that cost down even

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

Who's that? One of our customers uses 11ad to let people deploy low cost gigabit wireless links. 11ay is really going to up that rate further to in excess of a gigabit per second and bring that cost down even more because I have 30Gbps at a node from which I can serve up a gigabit to 30

[AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3184568/smartphones/802-11ay-wi-fi-it-s-going-to-be-a-very-scalable-spec.html Fun times ahead! :-) -Hal

Re: [AFMUG] Haiti

A long time ago and not-so-alternate universe I was home teaching companions with her older brother Tom never got to meet Donny or Marie though, don't think they visited Ephraim that often. -forrest On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > While I would