Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Peltiers (TECs)

I have found some TECs that are claiming 2500 to 4000BTU/h, but they're crazy priced compared to small AC units. Also their efficiency is terrible in terms of kWh for cooling. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yes, extensive trials. In the end, white

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

It’s pretty simple. You create a connection with your up streams using your ASN and their ASN. You need ip connectivity to the other router (prob your gateway but could be another router). And a password if required or preferred. Next you setup filters to only allow what networks you

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Figure one handhole per 2 homes. So 46 handholes. 1.25” between all handholes. .75” duct from each handhole to each dwelling for drops. You can run 144 count fiber for spares. Drop down to 96 or 48 count as it tapers going down the runs. You will need a cabinet with a distribution panel,

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I would advertise all networks on each connection. You can Prepend to an extent to help prefer traffic coming back on a certain connection. This cannot be prepended to high or some strip it off. It broke the internet once by someone putting a really large one….. If one connection

Re: [AFMUG] ippay's outage yesterday

Yesterday was the 2nd... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Wrong day to go down, on the first of the month, start of a new billing > cycle. > > > > Not

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

thank you guys Now another question, one of our providers is solid, the other..well. What kind of issues can come up with a basic BGP implementaion (we are taking the full tables) that will hurt us. Like is there some way that even if we stop announcing one of the /24 on their circuit theyll

[AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Hello, We are in talks with a developer who is planning a subdivision on a ~50 acre lot for 92 homes and he wants us to deliver FTTH. Is there anyone on this list who would like to consult with us so that we can get the plan done right from the get go? The developer will be doing all the

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We have a /21, OSPF internally, no iBGP. eBGP from two peers gets default route only. I inject both via OSPF. I send the whole /21 to both peers. OSPF default sends outbound traffic to the nearest edge. Prepends to one peer gets the inbound traffic mostly balanced out. That's about as simple

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Man, that sucks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build Hoover is getting out of vacuums? bp On 5/3/2016 11:42 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: If

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

If you can get the VPI/VCI information try a Huawei HG610. Operates as a true bridge. It'll do ADSL2+ or VDSL2 with pretty much any DSLAM. It's a cheap DSL modem, the only thing that might fail in it is a capacitor (if you're super paranoid replace the cheap capacitors before deploying it).

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

:) On May 3, 2016 1:44 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Hoover is getting out of vacuums? > > > bp > > > > On 5/3/2016 11:42 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > If we weren't in the middle of several large projects ourselves, we would > normally be more than

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Add splice cases. And NIDs for each home with splice tray. I don’t mind helping out, give me a call some time Sean. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We plan on not having to ever do it. but we stacked our priority customers on one /24 so if there were service issues on one of the upstreams or if we unexpectedly saturated one we could force them to use just the one On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:09 PM, John Babineaux

Re: [AFMUG] ippay's outage yesterday

Wrong day to go down, on the first of the month, start of a new billing cycle. Not happy with that, hope they get better redundancy etc. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

If we weren't in the middle of several large projects ourselves, we would normally be more than happy to help. Our CEO has been building fiber and power networks for over thirty years, and "may have been highly involved in a certain fiber project for a large company with two O's in the middle of

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Awesome Chuck that's exactly what I was looking for! Sterling I might be buying you a vacation to Steamboat Springs, CO soon ;-) This list is such an amazing resource!!! Thanks guys, -Sean On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Figure one handhole per 2

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

Yes, works fine with Meanwell RSD100 set up as -48VDC or similar. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Any powersupply or combination of power supplies can do this if they don’t > tie either side to ground. > Two 24 volt units in series will work. > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Splice cases, the number and size, will depend on the design. You want to minimize the splice cases, but that has to be balanced on how many drops are you pulling back through the system to the splice. You can minimize hand holes too if you want to run the drop tubes longer. We typically

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

One more thing BGP will pass a Default route to OSPF that will propagate it so that’s how it will know. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Babineaux Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF It’s pretty simple. You

[AFMUG] Telrad CPE POE options

Hello, We have been told by our distributor that they don't have any Telrad POEs to sell to us. What other options exist? Is the CPE 802.3at?? Thanks, Sean

Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question

A whole 50 bucks. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] basic -48VDC power supply question What’s the cost for that unit? From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

It is a bell 202 1200 baud burst of data. If your buttset shows it, it is there. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID we dropped a fortivoice last week, the office at the time didnt have caller

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

As for ROI the developer wants to give us an exclusive right and not put in copper for phone or TV ;) The take rate should be pretty high because their other option will be our wireless service. Sean On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > You will probably get 80% if

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

theyre getting a custom firmware with a timing adjustment On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > http://www.epanorama.net/documents/telecom/cid_bellcore.html > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:41 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

If you monitor the line, you can hear it between the first and second rings. Same FSK tones as are broadcast over your TV during a weather alert. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID we dropped a

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That's a nice developer! By them lots of drinks and steak dinners. If you don't have the $150-$200k handy, beg, borrow or steal it. Preferably not borrow... that hurts your return for the term of the loan. But it's still worth it for an asset that will be performing 100 years from now. On

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Duh! Good one. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The joke was because your radio is failing... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Sam

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

I only have a 4.95$ buttset with me, im glad it even shows cid On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > It is a bell 202 1200 baud burst of data. If your buttset shows it, it is > there. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You have to look at it as building an asset that grows in value and pays a dividend. If you could buy a house for 100K that you would make 20% per year on for 20 years would you? On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > You will probably get 80% if you are the

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That does change things considerably. If I ever make it to an afmug I'll tell you about the 'take' rates in high rise urban condos with near-exclusivity. It'll make you guys who do last mile to individual houses drool. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > As

[AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

I have a radio that is failing we think and I am looking for a replacement. Anyone out there? sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

I don't see how the math works (at $150k and 92 homes) if the cost per unit served is $1630 per house. And your initial penetration rate will be far, far less than 100% of homes for monthly services. Even after 3-4 years a significant percentage may never sign up. Where's the ROI? On Tue, May 3,

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

that document is interesting reading, i never gave much thought about how it worked On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If you monitor the line, you can hear it between the first and second > rings. > Same FSK tones as are broadcast over your TV during a

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Can’t quite make out what you are saying, can you repeat... From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio I have a radio that is failing we think and I am looking for a replacement. Anyone out

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Why would you expect it to be any different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I must be reading something wrong on Forrest’s web site… > >

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You will probably get 80% if you are the best value. And you don’t the full costs for homes that don’t take the service. No CPE, no enclosure, no drop, no sfp. Say $2500/customer. Say you clear $40/month. 40*12=480 480/2500 = 19.2% return from day one forever. What kind of mutual fund

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

Yeah, I am a repository of increasingly useless information... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID that document is interesting reading, i never gave much thought about how it worked On Tue,

[AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

I must be reading something wrong on Forrest's web site... http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ says it consumes ½ watt ? at 24volts So like... 0.020833 amps seems really low... unless the medication I am on is affecting my cranial vault processing unit Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet /

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

That math assumes an immediate 100% takeup rate... On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 1630/65 = 25 > > Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power. The next 25 months > and the 25 months after that... > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

The Sync Box itself uses very little power. You do need to add up all the devices connected to it. bp On 5/3/2016 1:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: I must be reading something wrong on Forrest�s web site� http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ says it consumes

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Just seems a little low From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption Why would you expect it to be any different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

The joke was because your radio is failing... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Dragon Wave Horizon Compact backhaul radio. preferably with 300 mbps > license

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

Parle italiano? On May 3, 2016 2:54 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > Dragon Wave Horizon Compact backhaul radio. preferably with 300 mbps > license key. > 11 ghz Sub Band B > Low Transmit Side. > > Capice? > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

1630/65 = 25 Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power. The next 25 months and the 25 months after that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/telecom/cid_bellcore.html From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID I only have a 4.95$ buttset with me, im glad it even shows cid On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Arrogance? Ignorance? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 11:55:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 Install - Drone

George, We are trying both sectors, I’m interested to know your findings more specifically on the two options. Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 Install - Drone

+1 on the opinions about KPP vs Cambium Sectors. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Ben Royer wrote: > George, > > We are trying both sectors, I’m interested to know your findings more > specifically on the two options. > > Thank you, > Ben Royer, Operations Manager >

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower

Perforated bowel. Sepsis. Long painful death. You can hop on one leg. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 5:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] American Tower A leg shot is one thing, as crutches and prosthetics these days are amazing. Get shot

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Having NAT problems? Having problems tracking down DMCA or subpoena targets? It's impacting your functionality. Moving to IPv6 will also increase performance due to the removal of NAT. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

You’d be surprised what people really care about. Heck, I have customers who complain that our VoIP ATAs don’t work with their pulse dial phones. My old phone company didn’t require me to buy a newfangled touch tone phone, I don’t like change, why are you making me change? From: Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

Fun :( www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down? We had one that automated his speed

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for DragonWave HC 11ghz Sub band B Low radio

So first Chuck says "shit" then he starts trolling like Steve. What is this world coming to!? On 5/3/2016 4:20 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: Duh! Good one. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: The joke was

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Power consumption is one of the selling points for my products which I don't do a very good job of promoting. I don't think there's a single product that I ship which takes even a watt. The sitemonitor base unit is the most hungry one and it's like 2/3 of a watt. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:50 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Aw From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:52 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components I am going to shut down the Internet for making fun of my grandpa On May 3, 2016 3:38 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

I don't disagree with you but I do wonder what the ultimate life of modern singlemode fiber (G.652.D) is, assuming it's not physically damaged. Could be more than 100 years? The oldest outside plant fiber that's still currently in use is, as far as I know, some of the 9/125 that was installed

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine what electronics might be available in 50+ years. From a raw bandwidth perspective and basic parameters like dB loss/km and frequencies available from 1270 to 1610nm, I can't see any reason why a two strand active-E

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

So you're saying that the SyncBox driving all 12 timing ports still uses like a 1/2 watt? That's freakin amazing. On 5/3/2016 6:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Power consumption is one of the selling points for my products which I don't do a very good job of promoting. I don't

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I’m sure that just saying what everyone else is here but here’s my 2¢... I’d use iBGP to have full routing tables on the more upline routers (not necessarily only the peering routers) so that the best upload and download path can be calculated from the routing table. Then advertise the default

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Sprint put 100G DWDM on some of their 1980s build, maybe even some of those 400G super channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

You can always change the electronics. It's only glass - lots of ways to light it up. Changing the electronics is the cheap part. On 5/3/16 3:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I don't disagree with you but I do wonder what the ultimate life of modern singlemode fiber (G.652.D) is, assuming it's not

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

Oh, sorry, we were agreeing. I misread. You have a good point... fortunately even 30 years from now I probably won't care, so it'll be my heirs' problem. :-) On 05/03/2016 03:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine what

Re: [AFMUG] Isolated mounts for din rail and components

Check out her keyboard skills. I still use the two finger method... On May 3, 2016 5:29 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Aw > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:52 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

We installed fiber at a nuke plant in 79 that is still going strong... It was actually the test case for which Union would get to call fiber it's own...It would have been done in 78 if the Unions hadn't fought over it for a year. And it has low dose rad exposure... On 05/03/2016 03:34

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Actually, the newer version is more like 1/4W typical. 0.01A at 24V. -forrest On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I must be reading something wrong on Forrest’s web site… > > http://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-12/ > > > > says it consumes ½ watt ? at

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

This is easily solved by always running 2 ducts instead of one, or microducting. On May 3, 2016 5:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Absolutely - I meant on a timescale of 50+ years, we simply can't imagine > what electronics might be available in 50+ years. From a raw

Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

OPM other people's money Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 3, 2016 6:28 PM, "Bruce Robertson" wrote: > That's a nice developer! By them lots of drinks and steak dinners. If > you don't have the $150-$200k

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Yeah, at the end of the day it is negligible in the grand scheme of consumption on a tower. The ½ watt just surprised me a bit From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 6:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Took a ctm off network and put in a 320 syncinjector 48v and a pmp100 injector 24 volt, dropped the apc load by ten percent Forrest for president On May 3, 2016 9:17 PM, "Paul McCall" wrote: Well, good job Forrest *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

The only time you'd have a meaningful difference is if you shorted quite a few of the output lines, and even then you'd have to short several to even get to a half a watt. The next iteration of gps modules will reduce this even further. On May 3, 2016 5:11 PM, "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

Well, good job Forrest From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:13 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption The only time you'd have a meaningful difference is if you shorted quite a few

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Are the providers in the same data center or different data centers? On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > We currently have a /22 with 2 /24 statically routed in each of our > providers. We are moving to BGP. > > What Im still unclear on is

[AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We currently have a /22 with 2 /24 statically routed in each of our providers. We are moving to BGP. What Im still unclear on is how my OSPF network is going to decide on the best path for data to flow externally can somebody give me the helmet version of how this is accomplished -- If you

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

I should have probably qualified that a little better. no, different towns. theyre connected across our network layer three via licensed liks and airfiber and an EOIP tunnel externally. I hand out default routes from both of the routers. and have policy routes directing the /24s to the correct

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Mike, i said helmet, explain it to me like you would a 10 year old, then dumb it down to my level from there. I dont know what a bgp speaker is On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Your OSPF network will just use default routes to get to your BGP speakers. >

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Your OSPF network will just use default routes to get to your BGP speakers. Your BGP speakers with full routes will choose the best path. Your BGP speakers should be connected together, via direct connection, layer 2 tunnel (VPLS) or via intermediary iBGP speakers. Those iBGP speakers in the

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Replace "speaker" with "router." Each ISP with have a router that does BGP. (eBGP) Then, you will need a layer 2 connection/tunnel of some sort between the two routers. You will then run BGP (iBGP) between the two routers. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux SyncBox 12 power consumption

I think the SyncPipe is like 1/4 watt. SyncBox probably not much more. Maybe a couple watts, 2-3 perhaps. On 5/3/2016 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You think? It's just a GPS receiver and some wiring. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] PBX not displaying POTs caller ID

Well someone has to know how to operate the Way Back Machine!!! On May 3, 2016 4:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yeah, I am a repository of increasingly useless information... > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:56 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

It’s the “typical IT person syndrome”. If anyone has watched “Nick Burns, your company’s computer guy” on Saturday Night Live you learn that is all too real in many places. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Traffic going IPv6 will bypass NAT end-to-end. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:41:28 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

Someone must be just sitting this, hit F5, ok, hit F5, ok, hit F5 ok, hit F5, oh it did'ent load in a sec, must be down! Lol. Just like those pesky guys that sit there and do speed tests every few min, and as soon as it don't report what they expect, call, complain ,.. :) All in good fun,

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower

You laugh, but I'd rock the hell out of a peg leg and eye patch. I'd also be a hit at kid's parties (for a small fee, of course). On May 3, 2016 8:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: In that case, get a parrot and eye patch while saying arrrh me maties On May 3, 2016 7:22

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Since most of the major websites are now ipv6 enabled (google,youtube, facebook,xhamster, yahoo,wikipedia) you would expect to see about %20 of traffic to be ipv6. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > Does anyone running a dual-stack network graph

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Netflix and Facebook natively work over IPv6. That should be the majority of the Internet content right there. The next trick is getting all your users able to access it. > On May 3, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > > Does anyone running a dual-stack network

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Google as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:56:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Google reports that 25.76% of their US traffic is IPv6. Facebook reports that their IPv6 performance is 20% - 40% faster than IPv4. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ty Featherling"

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

OH REALLY?!? WOW! *whistles" SO NOW I KNOW!!! :O *grin* I think one of the last remaining large holdouts is AWS as a whole. (There are parts ipv6 enabled, but it's still a mess.) Other than that, as Service Providers we're probably going to end up having at least a rudimentary CGNAT

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

I'm curious why my traffic isn't' reflecting this. I'll look into routes and make sure it all looks right. On another note; has anyone been following this whole Google - Comcast IPv6 kerfluffle? -Ty -Ty On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Yeah, I think

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Getting the customers to get a IPv6 address, and/or have their routers do a v6 PD is the issue. [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

You're well come!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 3, 2016 9:17 AM, "Andy Trimmell" wrote: > “MOVE!” > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson > *Sent:* Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Does anyone running a dual-stack network graph their IPv6 internet traffic? I only have my home traffic to compare to right now but the IPv6 is a trickle of the IPv4. Until the tipping point happens where enough of the internet CONTENT has moved to IPv6, then there will not be anything driving

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower

They already think we are pirates, might as well look the part... On 5/3/16 6:38 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: In that case, get a parrot and eye patch while saying arrrh me maties On May 3, 2016 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote: Perforated bowel.

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

To be technical, it's not going to remove NAT on your network for the foreseeable future unless when you add IPV6 that you also give everybody a public IPV4 as well :P Maybe a decade from now we'll be able to ditch NAT :( Yes, there are several v6/v4 and v4/v6 translation mechanisms, but those

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

We had one that automated his speed test and when it dropped below what he was paying for it sent us a notice. -Original Message- From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down? Someone must be just sitting this, hit

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Flyboard Air

He talked about using it with a wing suit. I can imagine right now that there are a LOT of wing suit users that are drooling over the possibilities... On 5/3/16 6:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Won’t be long before someone is silly enough to try flying one behind an airplane.That will be

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Flyboard Air

As much programming they are doing to control this, I imagine a "launch mode".. Shoots you off the ground to 50 feet. This sort of device suffers from self ingestion problems when hovering close to the ground, observe the grid they launch off of. No problem iff you immediately start

Re: [AFMUG] heavy heavy sigh

it always is On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:25 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > > of course it was our fault > > > - Original Message - > *To:* Jay Fuller - Cyber Broadband Inc. > *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2016 10:11 PM > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Flyboard Air

+1, but not if you are standing on it... On 5/3/16 6:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Be fun to see pop stalls due to ingestion. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Flyboard Air As much programming they are doing

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

Yeah, I think AWS is the last thing that people really care about *not* on IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

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