Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

For Akamai try emailing nocc-...@akamai.com to open a ticket with them. Might get you somewhere. Mark > On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:25 AM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > So, a couple questions on the GeoIP information. > > Where do you

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

Trango Apex and Apex plus From: Af > on behalf of Mark Radabaugh > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 7:21 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

Exaclty… the perfect solution would be a Trango Apex to Waveguide From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" >

[AFMUG] Are APC products available through wholesalers?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; and the engineer

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

I'm glad I'm in good company, though you may not feel the same. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 3,

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

As far as I know, Cambium has never made anything that comes anywhere near being ably to use 160mhz in 5ghz... unless he's talking about multiple APs. Mimosa can use 160mhz... but I don't know of anything else that will in a single (outdoor) radio. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Jay Weekley

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

It's the best way to go, in my opinion. My preferred way of doing things is a stack of Chuck's cards powered by a PacketFlux PDU. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm glad I'm in good company, though you may not feel the same. > > > > - > Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper

oh they will keep doing dsl the last mile and less. They just want to be able to cut up there copper plant so they don't have to maintain the old circuit types like alarm lines and clec dsl pairs. On 4/3/2017 11:35 AM, Chris Wright wrote: DSL too. Chris Wright Network Administrator

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

Is there an alternate PayPal account for people who don't trust credit card donations to the most targeted funding source on the planet? On Apr 3, 2017 6:31 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > $4k to pay for the coach travel and other expenses > > From: Af

[AFMUG] Maybe Ot

So, 5his douchecanoe contacted one of our landlords recently. The particular sight has been problematic for 5ghz lately. I'm familiar with the prick. I dealt with his nonsense last week. I'm norma)y ass hole level good steward of the spectrum, I never ever take more than I need even on the isp

Re: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question

Ah reminds me of the days of analog dialup and hunting through all the phone lines shorting them out to find the one in the 24 in that group that was just ringing through... On 4/3/2017 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep. Just short it out. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

$4k to pay for the coach travel and other expenses From: Af > on behalf of Mitch Koep > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] rant: vendor just sent me a survey via email on a word doc

Word docs shouldn't be sent outside of your organization for any reason. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April

Re: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question

or a 576 pair cable old days of sitting in the sun terminating or searching for the DAL thank goodness for wireless LOL On 04/03/2017 08:58 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote: Ah reminds me of the days of analog dialup and hunting through all the phone lines shorting them out to find the one in

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Steve is back! Steve Jones wrote: So, 5his douchecanoe contacted one of our landlords recently. The particular sight has been problematic for 5ghz lately. I'm familiar with the prick. I dealt with his nonsense last week. I'm norma)y ass hole level good steward of the spectrum, I never ever

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Sync for PTP500 PTP600 Radios

>From what I understand the Sync Unit is POE and sits between the IDU and ODU. I just don’t understand why there has never been discussion about the device. It just seems like no one is using sync on their links. I guess it’s possible that all hi density installations have gone to licensed links.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

Venmo? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 9:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help! Is there an alternate PayPal account for people who don't trust credit card donations to the most targeted funding source on the

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Josh no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise Mitch On 04/03/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi residents. I'm looking more for reliability than speed. Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz? Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

They train up just like the old dial up modems. Just can’t hear it. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 1:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link There must be a minimum SNR for each speed. I wonder if there's a bridge like that with

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Be careful and disconnect the side going out of the building DO NOT clip in and use both sides of the pair you choose Think of it as a HOME run cat5 From one device directly to the other You can pull bridging clips and connect to the 66 or 110 on each side Yes, These devices work great

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Yes. That's exactly the idea. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > Josh > > Do you have an unused pair from a lower Demarc to the Demarc > > on the floor you want

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Nothing is leaving the building. Going from phone room (bottom floor) to residential hallway (third floor). This also means I'm getting like 12 WiFi customers, no need to worry about the 1000 MAC limit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Naturally. My thought was if the bridge table entries have a long timeout and smart phones are coming and going from the wifi AP regularly, then it's conceivable you could have seen 1000 MAC addresses, and 999 of them are not actually present. Then device number 1001 can't connect. Yes it's

Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper

Better hurry up and get wireless to all the dialup customers... On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 8:55 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > > *AT Wants Out of Maintaining Landlines in Illinois* > Telecom giant AT is asking for Illinois’ permission to scrap > requirements that the company

[AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I'm looking for something I believe was discussed here multiple times. I have old copper going between a few stories in the building and I need to get bandwidth up there. Isn't there some box that people have used that will run with 2 wire or any kind of wire essentially and then you have

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Google gave me this one: http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=26448#spec 100FD at 300m. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged

[AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question

I have 4 analog lines in a hunt group, and the primary line has a bunch of static from the phone company side. Is there an easy way to take that line 'off hook' at the DMARC so that incoming calls will roll over and ring into the good lines, and have this offhook solution be easily

[AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

Anyone making it? Need to extract POE from Netonix SW and input it to WBMFG POE cards Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

[AFMUG] Cambium POE holder?

Anyone making it? Lots of installs requiring wall mount or rack mount Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Those both look perfect! Even better than I was hoping. I'm going to try the Planet one since it's cheaper+I know the name. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question

Yep. Just short it out. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Analog Phoneline Question I have 4 analog lines in a hunt group, and the primary line has a bunch of static from the phone company side. Is there an

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I have used this with good success. *https://www.amazon.com/Kit-NV-202EKIT-HyperXtender-Ethernet-Extender/dp/B0067N3C4A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1491231411=8-1=netsys+phone

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

We use these: http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/passive/555-poe-powertap Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Anyone making it? Need to extract POE from Netonix SW and input it to WBMFG > POE cards > > > Gino Villarini > >

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

My POE cards will also extract POE. They work in both directions. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor? Anyone making it? Need to extract POE from Netonix SW and input it to WBMFG POE cards Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

Well yeah, looking for cheaper option :-) From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I am planning a project using netsys. But have not used them before. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link Those both look perfect! Even better than I was hoping. I'm going to try the Planet one

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

Weird photo. Looks like the cat5 plug is copper plated. From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor? We use these: http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/passive/555-poe-powertap Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:50

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

DSL. Though I don't have any current models to give you. Haven't done it in years. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 4/3/2017 10:54:14 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link I'm

[AFMUG] rant: vendor just sent me a survey via email on a word doc

Really? Its frigging 2017…. Surveymonkey, formstack, google form [cid:8EF33E9F-C8EB-4929-BFCD-4F84BED12B41] Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

[AFMUG] See Ya later copper

*AT Wants Out of Maintaining Landlines in Illinois* Telecom giant AT is asking for Illinois’ permission to scrap requirements that the company maintain land-based phone lines, according to the* Rock River Times*. A recent survey said only four percent of people in Illinois still rely solely on

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

Gino, Looking at the Trango website it looks like they offered relabeled RadioWaves along with another brand. The ‘other’ looks a lot like a brand SAF used for a while but I can’t come up with the name at the moment. Which ones do you have? Mark > On Apr 3, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Gino

Re: [AFMUG] Wholesale sip provider

Flowroute +1 Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 11:51 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

I could probably do one at that price without a case. Just a bare PCB with maybe some mounting holes on the corners. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor? I haven’t tried it, but the Tycon $6 injector may

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

Looking for something like that but gigabit / 4 pair power extraction From: Af > on behalf of Josh Baird > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date:

Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper

DSL too. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Steele Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 6:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper Better hurry up and get wireless to all the dialup customers... On Mon, Apr 3, 2017,

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

I haven't tried it, but the Tycon $6 injector may work in reverse as well. You would have to find a gender change cable for the DC round plug I guess. But I haven't found a good solution for this either, in the form of a standard GigE picker and injector pair, that works well and is under $20.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

There are some cheap (sub $10) gigabit injectors out there, that would probably work in reverse, but they'll only do power on 2 pairs... I don't know of anything that will do four pair cheaper than Chuck's. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

If I removed all the surge protection crap I can make it cost less. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 11:02 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor? There are some cheap (sub $10) gigabit injectors out there, that would probably work in reverse, but they'll only

Re: [AFMUG] rant: vendor just sent me a survey via email on a word doc

convert to wordperfect format compatible with whatever version of wordperfect was used with MS-DOS 5.0, send back to them. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Really? Its frigging 2017…. Surveymonkey, formstack, google form > > > > > > *Gino Villarini* >

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I'd be happy with say 10 or 20 megs, it's only for a few WiFi residents. I'm looking more for reliability than speed. Would 17 MHz be more reliable than 30 MHz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

I power SiteMonitors at a few sites from Netonix ports. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:55 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I'm slightly confused. Gino, what are you trying to power from a Netonix > port? > > On 4/3/2017 12:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > If I removed all the surge

[AFMUG] Anyone have a favorite dealer for Trylon knock down towers?

Contact me off list...

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

the main thing to look for with a VDSL2 converter bridge pair is, will it do the 30a profile (30MHz). Depending on how noisy your lines are or loop length you may need to flip a switch to change between 17a profile or 30a. But ideally 30a profile should actually have slightly more bandwidth that

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

I'm slightly confused. Gino, what are you trying to power from a Netonix port? On 4/3/2017 12:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: If I removed all the surge protection crap I can make it cost less. *From:* Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 11:02 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

So, a couple questions on the GeoIP information. Where do you update the GeoIP information for Google? I can't seem to find anywhere to look it up. Same goes for Akamai. www.geoiptool.com is listing my block as being in Northbrook, IL although I'm not sure what database they're pulling from to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE holder?

E-mail: Brian(at)prairie-sky.com , he ran poemounts.com (site down for maintenance), I think those are the ones that Josh pictured. They're a tiny bit loose as originally made for Ubnt PoEs, but they work pretty well. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE holder?

If you purchase a lot of them, it seems like a 3-D printer may be a good investment. On 4/3/2017 4:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: E-mail: Brian(at)prairie-sky.com , he ran poemounts.com (site down for maintenance), I think those are the ones that

[AFMUG] Apartment Companies

Have any of you worked with TGM Apartments or Marquette Management? -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Loud eggbeater

They sound like a very loud helicopter, but don't..We had two presidential ones going back and forth in our back yard when the President was at Lake Tahoe 1.5 years ago... On 04/03/2017 02:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Working inside a van by airport when I heard super load engine

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Loud eggbeater

My son in law rode these things in Afganistan. He said they feel like you are in an egg beater too. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 3:42 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT. Loud eggbeater Working inside a van by airport when I heard super load engine noise...Never

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

Not sure if it would all line up right, but what about replacing the latches with latch hooks on the dish like it is on a standard Remec dish? Maybe that's why Trango did (or still does?) make an Apex to ApexPlus/Lynx aka Remec adapter plate for those old dishes? So you could just do that and

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

And what if I have high line noise? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > Josh > > no 30a is better as long as you have low line noise > > Mitch > > On 04/03/2017

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

There must be a minimum SNR for each speed. I wonder if there's a bridge like that with automatic rate selectionseems like a feature you'd want. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 4/3/2017 3:24:38 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

Josh Do you have an unused pair from a lower Demarc to the Demarc on the floor you want to get to? Mitch On 04/03/2017 02:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: And what if I have high line noise? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

AF24’s and AF11’s data path goes to Telco MPLS Router … From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date:

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I wonder how conservative the rate selection isprobably vendor dependent I suppose. Found this chart on Wikipedia. Looks like 30a is a larger channel with the same tx power. So just like with wireless, you would increase the power density on your channel by using the smaller channel

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

I just noticed the Planet only bridges 1000 MAC addresses. If you're connecting to WiFi AP's, people walking by on the street might have their phones connecting and disconnecting. Could be an issue depending on if/when the 1,000 entries timeout. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh

[AFMUG] GPS Sync for PTP500 PTP600 Radios

Is there a better way to sync 10-12 PTP500-ptp600 on a single tower than to use WB3665HH? Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

SAF was using Arkivator antennas for a while. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Gino, > > Looking at the Trango website it looks like they offered relabeled > RadioWaves along with another brand. The ‘other’ looks a lot like a brand > SAF used for a

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a waveguide adapter for Remec 11ghz

I have some of the Apex to Apex Plus (remec) adapters… just need to go Remec to Waveguide… I can do a super Adapter Sandwich with: Apex to Apex+ - APex+ to SAF + Waveguide (SAF has PDR ) But $$$ ads up. From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Using phone two wire for bridged link

If you're briding 1000 MACs onto a single flat topology layer 2 LAN fabric at a single geographic location, something has gone terrible wrong with your network design. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I just noticed the Planet only bridges 1000 MAC

[AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

OT: Excuse the OT email, but would like to get some help from the fine crowd of WISPs! My Son's LEGO Robotics烙 team are working hard to get some funding for their Championship trip ✈️ to Houston! This is a great experience! Working on their programming skills, team skills and entrepreneurial

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Sync for PTP500 PTP600 Radios

How do the PTP400/500/600's receive sync? I thought it was only with a PTP Sync module attached to the radio? Or is that through the PIDU? And then didn't everything change with the 650? I don't have any PTPs deployed, so I don't have a clue. Maybe Forrest can do something with the new

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

How much are they trying to get? Mitch On 04/03/2017 06:05 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: OT: Excuse the OT email, but would like to get some help from the fine crowd of WISPs! My Son's LEGO Robotics烙 team are working hard to get some funding for their Championship trip ✈️ to Houston! This is a

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit POE extractor?

Precisely why I've always used PacketFlux or Chuck's cards for injectors, not POE switches, CMMs, etc. My choice of router/switch. On 4/3/2017 3:14 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: AF24�s and AF11�s data path goes to Telco MPLS Router � From: Af