Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Steve Jones]

i use hangouts to communicate with my boy, its handy

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

>
> One to consider is Google Voice.
>
> You sign up for a free phone number account but it also has a chat client.
> Can be app based on the phone or browser based as well. One nice feature of
> the Google Voice chat is that you can also be texting/chatting with mobile
> users just like texting between phones. Make conversations, with those in
> the office easier because they don't have to use their phone, they can be
> on the computer using a full keyboard. Supports full MMS, pictures,
> hyperlinks etc. There is a chrome plugin as well. Side benefit is that is
> have the voice/phone features including voicemail and voicemail to text
> transcription, call screening and call forwarding based on rules or no
> answer conditions.
>
> Still is the evil empire and them tracking al that you do so there is that
> drawback
>
> https://voice.google.com
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:26 PM
> To: Animal Farm
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services
>
> With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites, what's
> available for Instant messaging apps these days?  Basically so I can send
> the boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email
> while we're on an intercom call.It looks like Trillian.im offers a
> service that is ad free for $2/user/mo  But I thought I saw that there was
> a $10 minimum somewhere.
>
> Nate
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Keefe John]

You can do this will channel master parts. We've done up to 240 rooms.

Keefe

On April 13, 2018 6:52:03 PM CDT, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:
>I assume an MDU pre wired with coax could have an amp and antenna
>stuffed on the system?
>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:39, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
>> 
>> It's been forever, don't remember the brands.
>> 
>> DTV is very sensitive. Be sure to use only RG6 cable and quality
>Fconnectors. 44-700MHz for amps and splitters and patch panels.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:28 PM Matt Hoppes
> wrote:
>>> I figured. Any recommendation oh guru of knowledge?
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:20, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
 
 You need distribution amplifier.
 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes
> wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of
>TV and send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of
>amplifier, or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the
>coax?

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Brian Webster]

One to consider is Google Voice. 

You sign up for a free phone number account but it also has a chat client. Can 
be app based on the phone or browser based as well. One nice feature of the 
Google Voice chat is that you can also be texting/chatting with mobile users 
just like texting between phones. Make conversations, with those in the office 
easier because they don't have to use their phone, they can be on the computer 
using a full keyboard. Supports full MMS, pictures, hyperlinks etc. There is a 
chrome plugin as well. Side benefit is that is have the voice/phone features 
including voicemail and voicemail to text transcription, call screening and 
call forwarding based on rules or no answer conditions.

Still is the evil empire and them tracking al that you do so there is that 
drawback 

https://voice.google.com


Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites, what's 
available for Instant messaging apps these days?  Basically so I can send the 
boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email 
while we're on an intercom call.It looks like Trillian.im offers a 
service that is ad free for $2/user/mo  But I thought I saw that there was a 
$10 minimum somewhere.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[George Skorup]

Most of the MDU OTA we do is 40-60 miles out of Chicago. Some need a 
pre-amp at the antenna. Most 10+ story buildings get decent signal 
without it.


Distro amp > splitters > risers > 25db taps > 15db taps > 10 > 5 etc. 
Depends on the number of units, distance from the amp, etc.


That's what I recall off the top of my head. I don't do much with that 
stuff. We have minions for that.


On 4/13/2018 6:56 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yes, it’s will need an amp to overcome the splitter loss.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 13, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and send 
it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, or will 
it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Chuck McCown]

Yes, it’s will need an amp to overcome the splitter loss.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and send 
> it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, or 
> will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Jeff Evans]

cut my teeth on small community catv ~40 years ago

On 4/13/2018 7:51 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Oooo. I know that name. Thanks for reminding me.

Why do you know it?  That’s not exactly a common household brand.

On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:30, Jeff Evans > wrote:


May have to channel convert it and a distribution amplifier,   google 
/Blonder Tongue/


On 4/13/2018 7:17 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and send 
it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, or will 
it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Matt Hoppes]

I assume an MDU pre wired with coax could have an amp and antenna stuffed on 
the system?

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:39, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> It's been forever, don't remember the brands.
> 
> DTV is very sensitive. Be sure to use only RG6 cable and quality Fconnectors. 
> 44-700MHz for amps and splitters and patch panels.
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:28 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> I figured. Any recommendation oh guru of knowledge?
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:20, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need distribution amplifier.
>>> 
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes 
  wrote:
 Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and 
 send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of 
 amplifier, or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Matt Hoppes]

Oooo. I know that name. Thanks for reminding me. 

Why do you know it?  That’s not exactly a common household brand. 

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:30, Jeff Evans  wrote:
> 
> May have to channel convert it and a distribution amplifier,   google Blonder 
> Tongue
> 
>> On 4/13/2018 7:17 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and 
>> send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, 
>> or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Josh Reynolds]

It's been forever, don't remember the brands.

DTV is very sensitive. Be sure to use only RG6 cable and quality
Fconnectors. 44-700MHz for amps and splitters and patch panels.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:28 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> I figured. Any recommendation oh guru of knowledge?
>
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:20, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> You need distribution amplifier.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and
>> send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier,
>> or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Jeff Evans]

May have to channel convert it and a distribution amplifier, google 
/Blonder Tongue/


On 4/13/2018 7:17 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and send 
it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, or will 
it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Matt Hoppes]

I figured. Any recommendation oh guru of knowledge?

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:20, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> You need distribution amplifier.
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and 
>> send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, 
>> or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Josh Reynolds]

You need distribution amplifier.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and
> send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier,
> or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?
>

[AFMUG] MDU coax

[Matt Hoppes]

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of TV and send 
it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of amplifier, or will 
it work split off to say 50 units direct on the coax?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Having mixed more than one giant batch of the yummy concoction before I
left home for college (worked at the local fast food place the summer
before I left home), I'm in favor of this.

My only concern is if they'll get the ratio right...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:05 AM,  wrote:

> From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:
>
>
> On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a
> Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of
> mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening
> Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries,
> like Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz
> Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in
> stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy
> Americans.”
>
> Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people had
> voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying “Nah,
> I’ll make my own.”
>
> As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the
> founder of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the
> 1950s as an alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost
> every Utah restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and
> mayonnaise— and sometimes pickle relish and spices.
>
> While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[Jon Lee]

Back up for me in AZ

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Up for me in california
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> 1.1.1.1
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:08 PM, David Coudron 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They were down last night too.   Couldn’t get to their site for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *castarritt
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 3:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't get to it; guess I better call my ISP!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is streakwave down?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[TJ Trout]

Up for me in california

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> 1.1.1.1
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:08 PM, David Coudron 
> wrote:
>
> They were down last night too.   Couldn’t get to their site for awhile.
>
>
>
> David Coudron
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *castarritt
> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 3:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?
>
>
>
> I can't get to it; guess I better call my ISP!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Is streakwave down?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[Chuck McCown]

1.1.1.1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:08 PM, David Coudron  
> wrote:
> 
> They were down last night too.   Couldn’t get to their site for awhile.
>  
> David Coudron
> From: Af  On Behalf Of castarritt
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:01 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?
>  
> I can't get to it; guess I better call my ISP!
>  
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson  
> wrote:
> Is streakwave down?  
>  
>  
>  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Gino A. Villarini]

Know in Puerto Rico as Mayo-Ketchup for more than 20 years! On Tostones!!!

From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:05 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

>From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:


On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a 
Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of 
mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening 
Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries, like 
Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz 
Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in 
stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy Americans.”

Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people had 
voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying “Nah, 
I’ll make my own.”

As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the founder 
of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the 1950s as an 
alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost every Utah 
restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and mayonnaise— and 
sometimes pickle relish and spices.

While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[David Coudron]

They were down last night too.   Couldn’t get to their site for awhile.

David Coudron
From: Af  On Behalf Of castarritt
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

I can't get to it; guess I better call my ISP!

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
Is streakwave down?

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[Mike Hammett]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwZwkk7q25I 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Carl Peterson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 2:51:43 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Streakwave down? 


Is streakwave down? 

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[castarritt]

I can't get to it; guess I better call my ISP!

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Is streakwave down?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[Jon Lee]

Just tried. Its down for me too.

-Jon

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Is streakwave down?
>
>
>


-- 
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

[AFMUG] Streakwave down?

[Carl Peterson]

Is streakwave down?

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Mathew Howard]

Same for me, I was kind of on the fence about going, because we're wireless
only and that's not likely to be changing any time soon.

The fiber stuff is certainly interesting to me, and I'd like to meet the
group again as well, but I'm not sure that would justify a trip out there
during one of the busier parts of the year. I was hoping a could find
another excuse to be in the general area around that time (like, say,
taking a vacation... I hear people do that kind of thing), but I hadn't
quite gotten to the point of figuring out how to make that work.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Jon Lee  wrote:

> No worries. I'm sure I am in the minority as far as being only wireless.
>
> -Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:53 AM,  wrote:
>
>> But then it would turn into the conventional AnimalFarm show.  I like
>> what WispAmerica has been doing with this.  They treat me very well.  I am
>> old and tired...  And this has never been a profit center for me.
>>
>> But the fiber stuff is somewhat more new and more fun.
>>
>> *From:* Jon Lee
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 11:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>>
>> Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because
>> I am a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.
>>
>> When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.
>>
>> -Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz > > wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck,
>>> I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I
>>> was very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with
>>> the wife and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you
>>> need to attract sponsors?
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>>>
>>> Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>>>
>>> On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>>> > Even this fall could be much better...
>>> >
>>> > Jon Langeler
>>> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
>>> >  >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>>> >> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>>> >> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't
>>> registered...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>>> >> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>> c.928.793.2972
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
> c.928.793.2972
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 11FX fun

[Jaime Solorza]

What's up with password issue?  Twice I have to default system to get it to
accept new password...tried Chrome and Firefox...must be Friday

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:35 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yay me. First set configured and talking away.   Three more to go
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 8:59 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 8:44 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> I link them up without antennas on the bench, but I have the duplexers
>>> mounted on correctly (reversed from the other radio), in order to get TX
>>> and RX pairs correctly.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I don't see any reason why not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to
 turn them on without any antennas connected.

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Kool Kats ... kopacetic...yeah..I will be installing 4 11GHz
> AirFiber links next week with three high band and one low band as per FCC
> licenses.
> Duplexors will be shipped to us on site next week , so since I have
> never configured these before, can I set them up without duplexors?  From
> pictures, looks like all frequencies are assigned in radio and the
> duplexors are just passive.  Thoughts?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Jon Lee]

I agree David, I would be interested in learning how / when to think fiber
instead of wireless. Right now our entire business is on top of solid
granite but that does not mean it will be like that forever. Being able to
weigh the options would be great information.

-Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Jon Lee  wrote:

> No worries. I'm sure I am in the minority as far as being only wireless.
>
> -Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:53 AM,  wrote:
>
>> But then it would turn into the conventional AnimalFarm show.  I like
>> what WispAmerica has been doing with this.  They treat me very well.  I am
>> old and tired...  And this has never been a profit center for me.
>>
>> But the fiber stuff is somewhat more new and more fun.
>>
>> *From:* Jon Lee
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 11:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>>
>> Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because
>> I am a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.
>>
>> When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.
>>
>> -Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz > > wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck,
>>> I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I
>>> was very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with
>>> the wife and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you
>>> need to attract sponsors?
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>>>
>>> Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>>>
>>> On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>>> > Even this fall could be much better...
>>> >
>>> > Jon Langeler
>>> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
>>> >  >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>>> >> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>>> >> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't
>>> registered...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>>> >> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>> c.928.793.2972
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
> c.928.793.2972
>



-- 
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[John Osmon]

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 05:58:32PM +, David Coudron wrote:
> We are a wireless only company, but very interested in, and looking
> ahead to fiber.   We expect it will be part of our make up at some
> time, and this seems like the right group to interact with as we
> learn.   We have gained so much from this group, we are also
> interested in meeting the folks as Jon mentions.   Maybe instead of a
> wireless track, it is a track focused on when is the right time to
> start moving some wireless to fiber and how to do it economically.
> That would hit right home with us even though we are all wireless
> today.

Count another in this wireless-but-looking category.  I was just looking
for the registration page, and noticed it looked things were cancelled.
Then this thread popped up.

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Jon Lee]

No worries. I'm sure I am in the minority as far as being only wireless.

-Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:53 AM,  wrote:

> But then it would turn into the conventional AnimalFarm show.  I like what
> WispAmerica has been doing with this.  They treat me very well.  I am old
> and tired...  And this has never been a profit center for me.
>
> But the fiber stuff is somewhat more new and more fun.
>
> *From:* Jon Lee
> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2018 11:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>
> Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because
> I am a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.
>
> When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.
>
> -Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck,
>> I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was
>> very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the
>> wife and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need
>> to attract sponsors?
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>>
>> Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>>
>> On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>> > Even this fall could be much better...
>> >
>> > Jon Langeler
>> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
>> >  > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>> >> Might give it a go later in the year,
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>> >> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>> >> >
>> >> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>> >> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jon Lee
> Off-Grid Networks
> c.928.793.2972
>



-- 
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[David Coudron]

We are a wireless only company, but very interested in, and looking ahead to 
fiber.   We expect it will be part of our make up at some time, and this seems 
like the right group to interact with as we learn.   We have gained so much 
from this group, we are also interested in meeting the folks as Jon mentions.   
Maybe instead of a wireless track, it is a track focused on when is the right 
time to start moving some wireless to fiber and how to do it economically.   
That would hit right home with us even though we are all wireless today.

Summer is just tough for us, even with the longer days, there isn’t enough 
daylight to get everything done once the ground thaws 

Regards,

David Coudron


From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 12:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

But then it would turn into the conventional AnimalFarm show.  I like what 
WispAmerica has been doing with this.  They treat me very well.  I am old and 
tired...  And this has never been a profit center for me.

But the fiber stuff is somewhat more new and more fun.

From: Jon Lee
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because I am 
a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.

When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.

-Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
Chuck,
I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was very 
interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the wife and 
just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need to attract 
sponsors?

Brandon


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
> Even this fall could be much better...
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, 
> can...@believewireless.net
>  > > 
wrote:
>
>> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown >> > wrote:
>>
>> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>> >
>> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>



--
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[chuck]

But then it would turn into the conventional AnimalFarm show.  I like what 
WispAmerica has been doing with this.  They treat me very well.  I am old and 
tired...  And this has never been a profit center for me.  

But the fiber stuff is somewhat more new and more fun.  

From: Jon Lee 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because I am 
a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.  

When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.

-Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz  
wrote:

  Chuck,
  I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was 
very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the wife 
and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need to attract 
sponsors?

  Brandon



  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

  Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

  On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
  > Even this fall could be much better...
  > 
  > Jon Langeler
  > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
  > 
  > 
  > On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
  >   > wrote:
  > 
  >> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
  >>
  >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > > wrote:
  >>
  >> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors. 
  >> Might give it a go later in the year,
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > > wrote:
  >> >
  >> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
  >> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
  >> >
  >> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
  >> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
  >> >
  >> >
  >>
  >>






-- 

Jon Lee 
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Jon Lee]

Along with the others, I did not register too. I was on the fence because I
am a strictly wireless company. Although I wanted to meet the group.

When it is re-scheduled, please consider a wireless track as well.

-Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Chuck,
> I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was
> very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the
> wife and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need
> to attract sponsors?
>
> Brandon
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>
> Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>
> On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
> > Even this fall could be much better...
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
> >   > > wrote:
> >
> >> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
> >> Might give it a go later in the year,
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout  >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
> >> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
> >> >
> >> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
> >> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>


-- 
Jon Lee
Off-Grid Networks
c.928.793.2972

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[chuck]

I really don't feel comfortable asking Ditch Witch and Vermeer to mobilize a 
bunch of equipment and people for less than probably 25 or so.  Just not 
fair to them.  Especially due to the fact that the majority will not be 
local enough to turn into a local sales opportunity for them.  I know they 
will come out in spite of that fact, but I have worked with these guys for 
years and like to make sure I am not leaning on them too hard.


-Original Message- 
From: Brandon Yuchasz

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Chuck,
I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was 
very interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the 
wife and just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need to 
attract sponsors?


Brandon


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Even this fall could be much better...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
 > wrote:


I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
Might give it a go later in the year,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > wrote:
>
> I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>
> I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Chuck,
I had not registered either and would have been two or three of us. I was very 
interested but had to check the schedule of summer vacations with the wife and 
just dropped the ball on registering. How many of us do you need to attract 
sponsors?

Brandon


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
> Even this fall could be much better...
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
>   > wrote:
> 
>> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > > wrote:
>>
>> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors. 
>> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > > wrote:
>> >
>> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>> >
>> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/13/18 09:33, Steve Jones wrote:
We talking mayo or salad dressing like miracle whip. Nothing worse than 
getting actual mayo with anything



http://theoatmeal.com/blog/miracle_whip

Possibly not safe for prudish workplaces.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[chuck]

I make it with Miracle Whip, ketchup and a bit of mustard and paprika.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

We talking mayo or salad dressing like miracle whip. Nothing worse than getting 
actual mayo with anything

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:50 AM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

  Yuk...catchup for fries, mayonnaise for ham sandwich, lemons for lemonade, 
hot sauce to clean pennies. .


  Jaime Solorza

  On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 9:12 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

I remember it well

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:05 AM,  wrote:

  From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:

  On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a 
Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of 
mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening 
Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries, like 
Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz 
Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in 
stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy Americans.”

  Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people 
had voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying “Nah, 
I’ll make my own.”

  As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the 
founder of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the 1950s 
as an alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost every Utah 
restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and mayonnaise— and 
sometimes pickle relish and spices.

  While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 11FX fun

[Jaime Solorza]

Yay me. First set configured and talking away.   Three more to go

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 8:59 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Thanks for the tip
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 8:44 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I link them up without antennas on the bench, but I have the duplexers
>> mounted on correctly (reversed from the other radio), in order to get TX
>> and RX pairs correctly.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see any reason why not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to
>>> turn them on without any antennas connected.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Kool Kats ... kopacetic...yeah..I will be installing 4 11GHz
 AirFiber links next week with three high band and one low band as per FCC
 licenses.
 Duplexors will be shipped to us on site next week , so since I have
 never configured these before, can I set them up without duplexors?  From
 pictures, looks like all frequencies are assigned in radio and the
 duplexors are just passive.  Thoughts?

 Jaime Solorza

>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Steve Jones]

"If"

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:12 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 4/13/18 7:59 AM, Joshua Stump wrote:
> > Was wondering the same. Also, it’s threaded if you use them. /shrug
>
>
> Slack is literally IRC with new functions.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Steve Jones]

We talking mayo or salad dressing like miracle whip. Nothing worse than
getting actual mayo with anything

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:50 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yuk...catchup for fries, mayonnaise for ham sandwich, lemons for lemonade,
> hot sauce to clean pennies. .
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 9:12 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> I remember it well
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:05 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a
>>> Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of
>>> mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening
>>> Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries,
>>> like Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz
>>> Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in
>>> stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy
>>> Americans.”
>>>
>>> Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people
>>> had voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying
>>> “Nah, I’ll make my own.”
>>>
>>> As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the
>>> founder of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the
>>> 1950s as an alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost
>>> every Utah restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and
>>> mayonnaise— and sometimes pickle relish and spices.
>>>
>>> While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions

[Steve Jones]

If theyre on the shelf and the label isnt worn i think it says.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:08 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> They may not want ours if I don't know what rev they are, and I don't have
> time to boot them all up and check unit info.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/13/2018 9:55:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions
>
> the label and the software was all i knew
> iirc alvaricraft will pull that info in mass
> are they looking for any more vl by chance, ive got a pile of them going
> out
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Somebody wants to know if our used Alvarion VL is Revision C.  Is there a
>> way to tell without logging in?  Maybe by the serial number?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Google webpass ROE agreement

[Chris Herrington]

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/installing-consumer-owned-antennas-and-satellite-dishes

 

might give you what you are looking for

 

Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSP Specialist

FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440

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Full Spectrum Communications

Consulting, Engineering, Installation

Communications & Electrical Contractor #450317

US Mail: PO Box 60905 Irvine CA 92602

Visit us at: 420 Exchange, Suite 270  Irvine, CA  92602

800-897-7287, 714-897-3789 Chris Cell 714-309-8714

ch...@fsc.com

http://www.fsc.com  

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 11:19 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: Alan Belvo; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Google webpass ROE agreement

 

thanks Gino!

 

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Old one 

 

From: Af  on behalf of Sean Heskett 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:52 PM
To: Alan Belvo , "af@afmug.com" , 
"memb...@wispa.org" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Google webpass ROE agreement

 

Does anyone have a copy of the webpass ROE (right of entry) that the HOA signs? 
 Their web site says you can download it but there's no link. 

https://webpass.net/faq/residential/23

 

Does anyone have a similar doc they'd like to share for the roof rights and 
access for MDU projects?

 

Thanks,

 

Sean

 

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Jaime Solorza]

Yuk...catchup for fries, mayonnaise for ham sandwich, lemons for lemonade,
hot sauce to clean pennies. .

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 9:12 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> I remember it well
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:05 AM,  wrote:
>
>> From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a
>> Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of
>> mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening
>> Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries,
>> like Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz
>> Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in
>> stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy
>> Americans.”
>>
>> Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people
>> had voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying
>> “Nah, I’ll make my own.”
>>
>> As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the
>> founder of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the
>> 1950s as an alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost
>> every Utah restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and
>> mayonnaise— and sometimes pickle relish and spices.
>>
>> While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/13/18 7:59 AM, Joshua Stump wrote:

Was wondering the same. Also, it’s threaded if you use them. /shrug



Slack is literally IRC with new functions.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[Cameron Crum]

I remember it well

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:05 AM,  wrote:

> From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:
>
>
> On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a
> Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of
> mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening
> Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries,
> like Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz
> Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in
> stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy
> Americans.”
>
> Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people had
> voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying “Nah,
> I’ll make my own.”
>
> As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the
> founder of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the
> 1950s as an alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost
> every Utah restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and
> mayonnaise— and sometimes pickle relish and spices.
>
> While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions

[Adam Moffett]

They may not want ours if I don't know what rev they are, and I don't 
have time to boot them all up and check unit info.


-Adam


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/13/2018 9:55:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions


the label and the software was all i knew
iirc alvaricraft will pull that info in mass
are they looking for any more vl by chance, ive got a pile of them 
going out


On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Somebody wants to know if our used Alvarion VL is Revision C.  Is 
there a way to tell without logging in?  Maybe by the serial number?


Thanks,
Adam

[AFMUG] OT Fry sauce

[chuck]

>From the Salt Lake Tribune this morning:

On Wednesday, Heinz asked American condiment lovers to decide— through a 
Twitter poll — if it should start selling Mayochup, a premade blend of 
mayonnaise and ketchup, in the United States. (According to the Evening 
Standard, a British newspaper, it’s been sold in Persian Gulf countries, like 
Dubai, for a couple of years.) The Twitter feed for Heinz 
Ketchup(@HeinzKetchup_US) posted this poll Wednesday: “Want #mayochup in 
stores? 500,000 votes for “yes” and we’ll release it to you saucy Americans.”

Less than 24 hours after the poll was posted, more than 470,000 people had 
voted— with 55 percent approving of the product and 45 percent saying “Nah, 
I’ll make my own.”

As anyone with a connection to Utah and its signature foods knows, the founder 
of Arctic Circle restaurants created this pink concoction in the 1950s as an 
alternative dipping sauce for french fries. Since then, almost every Utah 
restaurant has developed its own version using ketchup and mayonnaise— and 
sometimes pickle relish and spices.

While huge in Utah, fry sauce remains mostly a mystery outside the state.

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 11FX fun

[Jaime Solorza]

Thanks for the tip

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 8:44 AM Jeremy  wrote:

> I link them up without antennas on the bench, but I have the duplexers
> mounted on correctly (reversed from the other radio), in order to get TX
> and RX pairs correctly.
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't see any reason why not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to
>> turn them on without any antennas connected.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Kool Kats ... kopacetic...yeah..I will be installing 4 11GHz
>>> AirFiber links next week with three high band and one low band as per FCC
>>> licenses.
>>> Duplexors will be shipped to us on site next week , so since I have
>>> never configured these before, can I set them up without duplexors?  From
>>> pictures, looks like all frequencies are assigned in radio and the
>>> duplexors are just passive.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Joshua Stump]

Was wondering the same. Also, it’s threaded if you use them. /shrug

 

Joshua Stump

Network Admin

Fourway.NET  

800-733-0062

 

From: Af  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

 

"utterly useless for multipronged projects"

??



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Steve Jones"  >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:20:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

Non threaded, limited "free" history, utterly useless for multipronged 
projects, its only good for fanbois

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:11 PM Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

What does that even mean? Channels? Group chat? File sharing? I'm in slack 
channels with hundreds of users.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:05 PM Steve Jones  > wrote:

Slack is fine for a few users, beyond that its garbage. Powercode uses it now, 
its why i dropped out of the mikrotik testing

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:22 PM Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Slack, Ryver

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:19 PM Steve Jones  > wrote:

We use the shit out of trillian connected to our openfire server. Spark with 
openfire works well but you can only be logged into your account from one 
device at a time, hence trillian. I bought a permanent license for my client 
for like 60 bucks, was worth it plus it retains images. You dont have to 
connect back to another server like we do, but this way i control our users and 
log the communication

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 3:30 PM SmarterBroadband  > wrote:

Slack

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:26 PM
To: Animal Farm  >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites, what's 
available for Instant messaging apps these days?  Basically so I can send the 
boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email 
while we're on an intercom call.It looks like Trillian.im offers a 
service that is ad free for $2/user/mo  But I thought I saw that there was a 
$10 minimum somewhere.

Nate

 

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[chuck]

Have to be after Thanksgiving for that.

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

If there is snow for skiing, im in!

On 4/13/18, 10:24 AM, "Af on behalf of Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>Yeah, let's revisit the idea mid summer for a fall event.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:38 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>
>Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>
>On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>> Even this fall could be much better...
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
>>  > > wrote:
>>
>>> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>>> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>>> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>>> >
>>> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>>> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Gino A. Villarini]

If there is snow for skiing, im in!

On 4/13/18, 10:24 AM, "Af on behalf of Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>Yeah, let's revisit the idea mid summer for a fall event.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:38 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?
>
>Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...
>
>On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>> Even this fall could be much better...
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net
>>  > > wrote:
>>
>>> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.
>>> Might give it a go later in the year,
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
>>> canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>>> >
>>> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
>>> like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 11FX fun

[Jeremy]

I link them up without antennas on the bench, but I have the duplexers
mounted on correctly (reversed from the other radio), in order to get TX
and RX pairs correctly.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> I don't see any reason why not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to
> turn them on without any antennas connected.
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:
>
>> Hey Kool Kats ... kopacetic...yeah..I will be installing 4 11GHz AirFiber
>> links next week with three high band and one low band as per FCC licenses.
>> Duplexors will be shipped to us on site next week , so since I have never
>> configured these before, can I set them up without duplexors?  From
>> pictures, looks like all frequencies are assigned in radio and the
>> duplexors are just passive.  Thoughts?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Robert]

How about trying to put a pin in a date early without all the rest of 
the planning for a straw man??


On 4/13/18 7:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, let's revisit the idea mid summer for a fall event.
-Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 
7:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal 
farm?

Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Even this fall could be much better...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 > wrote:



I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


    No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors. 
    Might give it a go later in the year,


    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > wrote:
    >
    > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
    canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
    >
    > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
    like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
    >
    >

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah, let's revisit the idea mid summer for a fall event.  

-Original Message- 
From: Robert 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:38 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm? 


Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Even this fall could be much better...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 > wrote:



I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors. 
Might give it a go later in the year,


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > wrote:
>
> I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>
> I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Josh Reynolds]

Yeah it doesn't make any sense to me either.

To each their own though.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 7:27 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> "utterly useless for multipronged projects"
>
> ??
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:20:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services
>
> Non threaded, limited "free" history, utterly useless for multipronged
> projects, its only good for fanbois
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:11 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> What does that even mean? Channels? Group chat? File sharing? I'm in
>> slack channels with hundreds of users.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:05 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Slack is fine for a few users, beyond that its garbage. Powercode uses
>>> it now, its why i dropped out of the mikrotik testing
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:22 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Slack, Ryver

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:19 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> We use the shit out of trillian connected to our openfire server.
> Spark with openfire works well but you can only be logged into your 
> account
> from one device at a time, hence trillian. I bought a permanent license 
> for
> my client for like 60 bucks, was worth it plus it retains images. You dont
> have to connect back to another server like we do, but this way i control
> our users and log the communication
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 3:30 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>
>> Slack
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:26 PM
>> To: Animal Farm 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services
>>
>> With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites,
>> what's available for Instant messaging apps these days?  Basically so I 
>> can
>> send the boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email
>> while we're on an intercom call.It looks like Trillian.im offers
>> a
>> service that is ad free for $2/user/mo  But I thought I saw that
>> there was a $10 minimum somewhere.
>>
>> Nate
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions

[Steve Jones]

the label and the software was all i knew
iirc alvaricraft will pull that info in mass
are they looking for any more vl by chance, ive got a pile of them going out

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Somebody wants to know if our used Alvarion VL is Revision C.  Is there a
> way to tell without logging in?  Maybe by the serial number?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Robert]

Winter in Utah would seem to preclude the outdoor demonstrations...

On 4/13/18 6:26 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:

Even this fall could be much better...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 > wrote:



I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors. 
Might give it a go later in the year,


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout > wrote:
>
> I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is
canceled :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>
> I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel
like an idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Jon Langeler]

Even this fall could be much better...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 9:21 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.  Might give 
>> it a go later in the year,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is canceled :( 
>> > Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
>> > 
>> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel like an 
>> > idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
>> > 
>> > 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[can...@believewireless.net]

I was lazy about it too but mostly because summer is our busy season.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.  Might give
> it a go later in the year,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> >
> > I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is canceled
> :( Did I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
> >
> > I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel like an
> idiot for procrastinating on the registration!
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[David Coudron]

In Minnesota, we get so busy with the business and recreational items when the 
weather is nice during the summer, we'd love to see this in the winter.  Things 
are significantly calmer then.   We'd be in for sure if this was a January/Feb 
type of thing 

Regards,

David Coudron
david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
 
Advantenon, Inc.    
i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  | 
 www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545 



-Original Message-
From: Af  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.  Might give it a 
go later in the year,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is canceled :( Did 
> I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
> 
> I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel like an idiot 
> for procrastinating on the registration!
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Did I ruin summer animal farm?

[Chuck McCown]

No, just too low a turnout (single digit) to attract sponsors.  Might give it a 
go later in the year,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:18 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> I just got my lazy ass around to registering and the event is canceled :( Did 
> I miss the notice :) Oh wait I wasn't registered...
> 
> I was really excited about AF back in Utah, small again, Feel like an idiot 
> for procrastinating on the registration!
> 
> 

[AFMUG] Alvarion VL revisions

[Adam Moffett]

Somebody wants to know if our used Alvarion VL is Revision C.  Is there 
a way to tell without logging in?  Maybe by the serial number?


Thanks,
Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[Mike Hammett]

" utterly useless for multipronged projects" 

?? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:20:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services 


Non threaded, limited "free" history, utterly useless for multipronged 
projects, its only good for fanbois 


On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:11 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



What does that even mean? Channels? Group chat? File sharing? I'm in slack 
channels with hundreds of users. 


On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:05 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Slack is fine for a few users, beyond that its garbage. Powercode uses it now, 
its why i dropped out of the mikrotik testing 


On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:22 PM Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 



Slack, Ryver 


On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:19 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



We use the shit out of trillian connected to our openfire server. Spark with 
openfire works well but you can only be logged into your account from one 
device at a time, hence trillian. I bought a permanent license for my client 
for like 60 bucks, was worth it plus it retains images. You dont have to 
connect back to another server like we do, but this way i control our users and 
log the communication 


On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 3:30 PM SmarterBroadband < li...@sbb.net > wrote: 


Slack 

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:26 PM 
To: Animal Farm < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services 

With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites, what's 
available for Instant messaging apps these days? Basically so I can send the 
boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email 
while we're on an intercom call. It looks like Trillian.im offers a 
service that is ad free for $2/user/mo But I thought I saw that there was a $10 
minimum somewhere. 

Nate 

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Matt Hoppes]

Change a few things on several hundred radios without UNMS?  So you’re planning 
to log into several hundred radios by hand, hit upload, hit apply and verify it 
came back?

How about just write a quick Python script to SSH into the radio, sed the 
config file with the changes you want to make, and save. 

You’ll then have a script to make mass changes in the future. Not hard at all. 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 21:46, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Yeah... except it doesn't work, at least on 6.1.6. Pull out the stuff I don't 
> want to overwrite, upload the file and... SSID, WPA2 key, traffic shaping, 
> device name, etc. all gone. They just go to factory default values. Except 
> for what's in the config file, VLANs, bridges, etc. Not very helpful. This is 
> friggin stupid.
> 
>> On 4/12/2018 7:57 PM, Steve Jones   wrote:
>> Thata why you pull everything youre not changing
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:09 PM George Skorup  
>>> wrote:
>>> Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:
>>> 
>>> radio.1.status=enabled
>>> radio.status=enabled
>>> 
>>> has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap comes up.
>>> 
>>> Lame.
>>> 
 On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
 I want in on that
 
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup  
> wrote:
> The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing 
> it with vi.
> 
> I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names, 
> etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid 
> configuration file structure.
> 
> And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the 
> download configuration button.
> 
> I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.
> 
>> On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes, 
>> notepad++ does not
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM   George Skorup 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs. 
>>> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would 
>>> qualify as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>>> 
>>> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the 
>>> backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says 
>>> invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>>> 
 On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
 
 If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, 
 it's more of a pain (from experience).
 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
>  wrote:
> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not 
> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can 
> edit it still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one 
> of the units and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It 
> could just be a change in a field name
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard  
>> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it 
>> would just use defaults for anything that was missing. 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  
>>> wrote:
>>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and 
>>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>> 
>>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>> 
>>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are 
>>> doing.
>>> 
>>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>> 
 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
  wrote:
 It should
 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>  wrote:
> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I 
>   stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial 
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred 
> radios. 
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>> 
> 
>>> 
>