Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-25 Thread Jason McKemie
No one right now, never know what you'll need in the future though. On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: And who would pay you for that? I agree a fiber to every user from the feed is ideal. PON is progressing at the pace that I see nobody, at least in our

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Paul McCall
Sean, what is the major complaint? Is it that the installer or customer gets confused which port goes where? You could put stickers on things to avoid that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Pretty much the same here - we bought out what we could find. I don’t like the extra cost of the power cord and the additional Ethernet cable. More connections is just more places to screw it up. In addition we now have several thousand of the old style mixed in with the new style. Makes

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Why do ePMP radios include the PoE, but with Canopy they have to be bought separate? I never use the included power supplies on towers, so I would personally prefer to be able to buy ePMP radios without the PoE (assuming there was an appropriate price drop), at least for the synced radios. On

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a better fool. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Absotutely. I actually had a subscriber argue with me

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Colin Stanners
Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development - around 2000? - such a thing didn't exist, the AF standard came out in 2003. Also if they had used 48v the POE injectors would cost about 3x as much. On Jun 25, 2015 8:04 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: i'm just

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Plus DC sites are better in 24 than 48 volts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 26, 2015 12:49 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development - around

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Colin Stanners
It looks like the current standard Canopy Poe is https://phihong.com/html/psx15a_15w_level_vi_wall_adapter.html 24v version with a custom end. On Jun 25, 2015 9:10 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago. *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, but they steal you blind and split with their boyfriend once they get their green card From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

Re: [AFMUG] bonding ground at grain leg

2015-06-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I would go with your first plan of bonding your cabinet to the electrical ground / steel conduit versus adding a grounding rod. I think you are going to be better off not having a secondary ground path. Mark On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
https://www.google.com/search?q=cute+ukrainian+womenespv=2biw=1366bih=667tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=gP2LVdyIOYvLsAXX2ICoCwved=0CDUQsAQ I agree On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But the Ukrainian kid is sooo cute! *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. Home run the fiber, use the PON splitters at the head end if you so choose. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they can't?? Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks!

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I think a big part of the issue with customers plugging things in wrong is labelling. Data and Data+Power means nothing to the typical caveman customer. We've been putting stickers on UBNT power supplies for years labelling the ports Antenna and PC/Router and we rarely get customers plugging them

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Bill Prince
Absotutely. I actually had a subscriber argue with me about the correct connection required for a Tycon POE (which I consider fairly straightforward and easy to understand). Yet he insisted that it be connected the opposite way. Where upon, I had to reverse the connection, show him that it

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you serious? There was a bright red sticker on Pac/Tycon POEs and people still screwed it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Sean, what is the major

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Now this is a good idea. The label on the old power supplies was Radio and Computer I believe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I think a big part of the

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Rory McCann
Could you do something with white and black colored ethernet cabling and label the corresponding ports white and black? IE: black goes outside, white goes to the router/pc? Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 6/25/2015 3:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Absotutely. I actually

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Our solution for now is we purchased a year and a half supply of them. :-P On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Check out the details at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 Ray Join the Conversation

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
“It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.” - corollary to Murphy’s Law From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a better

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
In addition to the useability factors the old Poe was $8 the new one is $20 + a cable $4 so 3x the cost per install now :-/ I fail to see why cambium can't allow us to buy which ever one we want. On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Check out the

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3voip200 From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Cc: memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ Our solution for now is we

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Damn Ken… you beat me to it!! I was going to say that. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the

[AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Dear Cambium, Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc. Can you either keep

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
blacbox On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0_nkw=canopy+power+supply_sacat=0 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution. Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers! -Sean On Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
When I think of guerilla marketing I think of clever product placement that gets people thinking about a product without looking like advertising. One thing I've heard of is joining an online community where you know the target market hangs out. You either use two accounts or you do it with

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I resent the assertion that my customers are stupider than a cave man. I know, sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRlEyplGQ8 From: Steve D Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:23 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ Is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread James Howard
But now the marketing department gets the yacht? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing That “was” the plan... From: Adam Moffettmailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent:

[AFMUG] Mikrotik bandwidth monitor with The Dude?

2015-06-25 Thread Michael Gawlowski
I am looking to monitor daily and monthly bandwidth on our MT's-hopefully through the Dude. I have already set up SNMP successfully on a couple of sites but I'm not seeing anything in the polling section of the Dude to monitor daily/monthly bandwidth usage. I do not need it on

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Matt
Dear Cambium, Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc. Can you

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

2015-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
This is the service provider edition, yes. It is not the enterprise version. Elsewhere in the thread I linked the document that describes the program. Not that any edition of ZCS replaces ZExtras, but it does enable different things. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Steve D
Is Cambium moving to an 802.3af future? At some point I'd love to see that. Thought I read the 450i or d was doing that. At least then we could source our own parts if we wanted to. I can't recall exactly, but I'm pretty sure a camera I installed in the last year or two had a very similar

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread joseph marsh
My epmp poe writing on which port is what is dark like the markings have faded On Jun 25, 2015 11:43 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it the wrong way with multiple variations. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Chuck McCown
That “was” the plan... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing I thought you would pay the marketing department to do this while you hang out on the yacht. On 6/25/2015 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I am

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Cambium, Why won't you let us buy the

Re: [AFMUG] Data center bandwidth

2015-06-25 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
One of the things I always use as an analogy for bandwidth are cars. Will a $500 junker car work for you? If so then it’s going to be what you need. Is the ride in that car always smooth? Could be or might not be. Depends on where you are going. Some roads are better than others. Now, do you

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Colin Stanners
I imagine they want to move to gigE-capable PSUs and since the old design with the connection in the pigtail won't support that, it's time for a change. The training difference is minor if you already have the .AF PMP320 PSUs. On Jun 25, 2015 10:24 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Dear

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I thought that hypothetical conversation looked awfully familiar... except that I think I was one of the participants, and I'm pretty sure I'm not Chuck. :P On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Ive noticed that guys products have been

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Chuck McCown
You know sales guys... From: James Howard Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing But now the marketing department gets the yacht? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:14

Re: [AFMUG] Data center bandwidth

2015-06-25 Thread Paul Stewart
I like that analogy and agree for the most part …. Often when providers are shopping for bandwidth, the first question is price. I am not saying it’s not an important factor but suggesting that folks take other considerations into account such as what you have outlined. For me, latency

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread joseph marsh
I honestly hate the epmp poe and the old ones are so easy a cave man can do it On Jun 25, 2015 10:45 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: blacbox On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you can really get $24 for them on eBay, I need to look for any NIB ones I have laying around. That’s more than I can get for PMP100 SMs. Who would have thought the POEs would be worth more than the radios. From: joseph marsh Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Bill Prince
And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it the wrong way with multiple variations. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/25/2015 9:23 AM, Steve D wrote: However, the comment so easy a caveman could do it is so absolutely true - you really had to go out of your way to plug

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
What SM can do more than 100mbps in one direction That's fine if they want to sell the new POEs with whatever new product is coming out but at least let us buy the old ones if we want to. Completely removing them from the market is really frustrating. We never drank the 320 koolaid. Even

[AFMUG] redline Wimax Cpe

2015-06-25 Thread Daniel Gerlach
looking for old Redline Cpe´s. 100 or 200 units thx

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
I thought you would pay the marketing department to do this while you hang out on the yacht. On 6/25/2015 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I am too lazy for that kind of effort... *From:* Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Wellthe Telrad PoE for the 7000SU is similar to Canopy, with a built in pigtail that plugs into the customer router/PC...albeit slightly longer. Every previous generation of Telrad/Alvarion had a midspan POE. On 6/25/2015 12:59 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: What SM can do more than 100mbps in

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Matt
RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out? http://routerboard.com/RBmAP2n has POE out. Unfortunately we have found that with a 50 foot cat5 run and surge arrestor many times it will not power the SM. With a vary short cat5 run it will though. A POE crossover is

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

2015-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't looked at it other than using it some on their site as I believe they switched their forum to use that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Steve

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you have a big enough power supply to the map2n? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out?

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ray Savich
Check out the details at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forumhttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Hi Ray, Thanks for listening. So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the cables that are attached to the POE. either a tech friend will be over to help them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Tushar Patel
Matt, Few of us like the old power supply, can you put us in touch with your source so we can continue to buy that power supply? Tushar On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Matt Mangriotis matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Damn Ken… you beat me to it!! I was going to say that.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti POEs? Maybe because

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
No, silly, for UBNT radios. What I’m asking is since it’s similar to the new Cambium one, why don’t UBNT based WISPs complain about the POE? Because it’s free with the radio and why look a gift horse in the mouth? Because it’s all they’ve every known so they don’t miss it? Because they have

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti POEs? Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them? Plus they have cool white LEDs? Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X). One thing you could

[AFMUG] items for sale

2015-06-25 Thread Tim Reichhart
I have these for sell NBE-M5AC500 2 pcs set x 2 $ 135 each plus shipping R5AC-Lite(US) x 2 $ 125 each plus shipping sxtg-5hpacd x 3 $ 100 each plus shipping These are all brand new.

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
so then instead of an $8 point of failure (when lightning strikes) we now have a $80 point of failure...how is that better??? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t believe the old POE had any surge protection, didn’t lighting take out the router anyway? From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ so then instead of an $8 point of failure (when lightning strikes) we now

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Lol!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote: I love the first QA response in the FAQ Ray... Q: Why is this change happening? A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Because they're not spoiled with something they never had :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: No, silly, for UBNT radios. What I’m asking is since it’s similar to the new

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Steve D
I love the first QA response in the FAQ Ray... Q: Why is this change happening? A: The current Power Supply line is being retired. Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these silly questions. Q:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Nate Burke
I Just came across this again today, seems to fit the conversation. SRC: https://xkcd.com/1172/ Workflow On 6/25/2015 9:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago. *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

2015-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
From your mouth to God's ears. These are back hauls and Ubiquiti 365 to feed barracks. Ruckus APs and Cisco switches inside. On Jun 25, 2015 9:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Very nice!!! Making the big bucks! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

2015-06-25 Thread Peter Kranz
Have you considered Siklu’s instead for this form factor and speed? 1 Gbps full duplex but much cheaper.. -PK From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:25 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz The mounts are

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
420k a year...not bad to lay some fiber... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: A billion dollars for 2400 jobs. I guess Canadians can't multiply or

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

2015-06-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
A billion dollars for 2400 jobs. I guess Canadians can't multiply or divide. On Jun 25, 2015 8:14 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Just on the tail end of some Gig Fiber discussions over the past few days…… here’s an announcement made this morning in my backyard:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be Motorola not Cambium. If Cambium was worried about

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad max range?

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
37km or 22miles On Thursday, June 25, 2015, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can 30-45 miles be achieved?

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Very nice!!! Making the big bucks! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: The mounts are designed nicely but manufacturing sucks. The bolts cross thread or

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

2015-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
I didn't spec a thing. I am working for a WISP hired by fiber and cabling company hired by Boingothey have Siklus as well installed by some other crew On Jun 25, 2015 9:39 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: Have you considered Siklu’s instead for this form factor and speed? 1

[AFMUG] website in a box

2015-06-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the company and services offered, a link to remote support, even team viewer, a contact us page, maybe some product and a way

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread George Skorup
We had the same internal discussion. Customers are stupid. Things can only go one way with the Canopy PoE. However, we've had a lot less SMs lost to surges since we switched to the Laird POE-24iR's. Honestly, it wasn't a hard transition. The techs are able to walk customers through making sure

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

2015-06-25 Thread George Skorup
Do what every web developer does, install WordPress and plugins? On 6/25/2015 11:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Hardware? Pi. Software? Probably just basic HTML. But it would help to have more details on what you want. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 26, 2015 12:21 AM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Do what every web

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

2015-06-25 Thread Jeremy
+1 Wordpress template On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Hardware? Pi. Software? Probably just basic HTML. But it would help to have more details on what you want. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

2015-06-25 Thread Brett A Mansfield
My brother made my site. He doesn't charge much and does a pretty good job. He did it really fast too. Had it live in 1 day after ordering. I only paid $200. I'm sure he'd use it as a template for you and just alter it to what you need for the same price. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2015,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Which is great...for you. Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is still demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer they get them from?? On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm one of those that prefer the

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Colin Stanners
I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE: -less outlet space needed -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's likely next generation will hit 100+) -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router. -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Colin Stanners
With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs. I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer years ago when there was

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be Motorola not Cambium. If Cambium was worried about losing a bunch of sales, they wouldn’t be dropping the product. My guess is it’s a minimum order thing. They probably have to order X thousands at a time and the last order

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Sean Heskett
but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be very sad puppies. just sayin On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote: How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 9:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Crimping the end wrong. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread TJ Trout
That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a bunch of sales, lol On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread cstanners
How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep them up at night. -Original Message- From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 To:

[AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

2015-06-25 Thread Paul Stewart
Just on the tail end of some Gig Fiber discussions over the past few days.. here's an announcement made this morning in my backyard: http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1561929/bell-gigabit-fibe-bringing-the-faste st-internet-to-toronto-residents-with-a-billion-dollar-network-investment-cr

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P It makes it much easier to replace customer's radios if we don't have to deal with getting into their house. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios?

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Jeremy
So what does Telrad's POE look like? Is it the same unshielded pigtail style? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be very sad puppies. just sayin On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

2015-06-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Back when I primary CPE were Bullet2's, before UBNT was making the current style of PoE, we used to make our own... similar style to the old Canopy PoE with a pigtail instead of two ports. I was really worried we'd have a ton of issues with customers plugging stuff in wrong when we switched to

[AFMUG] Telrad max range?

2015-06-25 Thread TJ Trout
Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can 30-45 miles be achieved?

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad max range?

2015-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Ask on the Telrad list? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 9:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can 30-45 miles be achieved?

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-25 Thread Jason McKemie
Maybe it's a non-issue, but it seems like active layout is the way to go. You wind up with a fiber or two to each house and you can still hook it up in a pon configuration, but have the option to upgrade in the future. If I wanted to, I could easily do 10gbps symmetric every house right now. On