Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

I’m saying Utopia had to split into two companies to even show a profit and overall the model was a failure if you combine all operations. The money is better spent on a private operation who owns and services the customer entirely. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Roger

[AFMUG] Scientists aim largest telescope possible at ‘alien megastructure’ star

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/27/scientists-aim-largest-telescope-possible-at-alien-megastructure-star/

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

Not sure why anyone would say the UTOPIA/Brigham City project didn't work. ~25% of the city pre-committed for services which was enough to back a bond to fund the whole city's fiber build. Since then subscriber-ship has continued to increase, is now at about 33% across the entire city, and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

Ohh! that does sound like fun... can I help? On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > there would be no way i would be able to not blow that up > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Hoover Dam would

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Yes On Oct 27, 2016 8:41 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > This is after a power cycle. > > > > TFTP method would be holding the reset button in during a power up, right? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Thursday, October 27,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

there would be no way i would be able to not blow that up On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Hoover Dam would be cool for a few days. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:42 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

We have not tried vectoring. Does that take a special modem? From: Stefan Englhardt Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS We offer 100 Mbps with vdsl/vectoring on single copper pair. DSLAM's are cheaper than 450 AP's and VDSL

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

We offer 100 Mbps with vdsl/vectoring on single copper pair. DSLAM's are cheaper than 450 AP's and VDSL Modems are cheaper than 450 SMs. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Chuck McCown Datum: 28.10.2016 05:35 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

Hoover Dam would be cool for a few days. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon awwe dick, i didnt even think about facilities, ill let you hike any time you want if i get to come to the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

awwe dick, i didnt even think about facilities, ill let you hike any time you want if i get to come to the smithsonian, i promise to stay sober and not touch stuff On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I’ll take the Smithsonian Museum of American History and

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

Nice, especially if the cute neighbor has a hot tub... From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras Paul, I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great. The camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

We routinely get 50 mbps out of a single pair and VDSL. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Frontier claims to sell 20 Mbps where they have fiber fed remote DSLAMS. I think that’s maybe something like 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

I’ll take the Smithsonian Museum of American History and the Air and Space Museum... Perhaps one of the mints too. Ft Knox? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon Great idea. I'll take Yellowstone

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Yeah, for about 15 seconds On Oct 27, 2016 9:41 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > This is after a power cycle. > > > > TFTP method would be holding the reset button in during a power up, right? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

This is after a power cycle. TFTP method would be holding the reset button in during a power up, right? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

H, after 2nd command it went bye bye. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches echo 2 >

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

I thought the stuffs get loaded into a ramdisk? Memory corruption can cause that stuff to go stupid. Lighttpd crashed and now can't be started since the binary in ramdisk is corrupt. I've seen this on M gear for ever. Even after a month on the tower, new radio out of the box. Just power cycle

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

You can do an option 4 HYBRID if you don't have enough IPV4 for each customer like me. About half my customers are on public V4 and the other half are Private 10.0.0.0 numbers and I plan on overlaying that with dual stack IPV6 and everyone will have public V6 assignment while only about half will

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches sleep 5 && free dmesg (Post your "free" memory results and the last 50 lines or so of dmesg here) On Oct 27, 2016 8:28 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Not responding on port 80, it’s as if lighttpd or whatever it’s

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

New Mexico is mine On Oct 27, 2016 7:38 PM, "Robert" wrote: > Hm, looks like no one has taken Yosemite... MINE! > > > On 10/27/16 6:04 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > >> Great idea. I'll take Yellowstone >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM That One Guy /sarcasm >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

Hm, looks like no one has taken Yosemite... MINE! On 10/27/16 6:04 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Great idea. I'll take Yellowstone On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

Paul, I have done this on 5 different towers this summer and it works great. The camera I am using a PTZ with 30x optical zoom Dahua brand model# DH-SD50A230IN-HC-S2 Its a Chinese camera but the housing is rugged and rated for IP67. You can pick them up for anywhere from $400-600 online. Here is

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Not responding on port 80, it’s as if lighttpd or whatever it’s called isn’t running. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Steele Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Frontier claims to sell 20 Mbps where they have fiber fed remote DSLAMS. I think that's maybe something like 2 bonded pairs using ADSL2+. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Old copper could make a return on those numbers. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:48 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Sounds like your radios are infected due to not updating the WEB UI will say corrupt flash and wireless function will stop but you would still be able to log into it On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I have 12 year old RouterBoards in the air, just humming

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

I am confused. Why are you doing this? Are the results returned by the top few search emboss somehow insufficient? I heard the hobby thing...but really? Anyone talented enough to do this maybe should do something inspired. But, to each his own. Go dude! On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 7:03 PM Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

Great idea. I'll take Yellowstone On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/27/jury-acquits-leaders-of-armed-takeover-of-the-oregon-wildlife-refuge-of-federal-conspiracy-charges/ > > > --

[AFMUG] OT: I got dibs on the Grand Canyon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/27/jury-acquits-leaders-of-armed-takeover-of-the-oregon-wildlife-refuge-of-federal-conspiracy-charges/ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

*nods* Closer, but still not the headliner. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:52:50 PM

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/10/amazon-route-53-now-supports-dns-queries-over-ipv6-networks/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/10/ipv6-support-for-cloudfront-waf-and-s3-transfer-acceleration/ Still no AWS compute to my knowledge, but it looks like they are

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Make that G.fast From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Well, don’t presume it

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Make that G.fast From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Well, don’t presume it is “crap” copper. Most telcos take pretty good care of their copper, most non RBOC telcos that is. In any event if the loops

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Well, don’t presume it is “crap” copper. Most telcos take pretty good care of their copper, most non RBOC telcos that is. In any event if the loops are short, like 2000 feet or less, 50 Mbps is doable. More with V.FAST. From: Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:38 PM To:

[AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Was just pondering the question... Not sure I know the answer... so perhaps one of you do. With all the CAF funding in play. What is the highest any rural dsl customer can get if these providers are only upgrading the fiber and dslams? Meaning... it's still crap copper to the house. What can

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

I have 12 year old RouterBoards in the air, just humming along. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

Flash corruption happens over time, anywhere from 4-6 years from what I've seen on these. Normally by then there's some form of upgraded model to replace them with. They've definitely served their purpose by that point though. On Oct 27, 2016 7:05 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

wasnt one of the patch firmwares from the last fiasco corrupting flash? On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m starting to see a drip, drip, drip of UBNT M series radios in the > field that don’t respond on the web interface but you can SSH in with the >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

It didn't become a thrill until I saw a browser render a jpg. Slowly render a jpg. That was interesting. Otherwise, usenet was where stuff was. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed:

[AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

I'm starting to see a drip, drip, drip of UBNT M series radios in the field that don't respond on the web interface but you can SSH in with the correct (non default) user/pass, and get various levels of functionality from there. Usually the wireless isn't working, but I have one today that is

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

That's just the storage, right, not actual compute? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:19:03

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

I think one of our neighbors was selling 10 meg service with only 12 megs worth of T1 lines. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

That sounds like when I started in wireless 13 years ago with 2 bonded T1 lines to the tower and sold 3 Mbps service. Worked until Netflix and Youtube came along. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:25

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

And the worse offender of all, external ad networks, where your site performance is dependent on some wack-job with an agenda that may be nothing like your site. I hate waiting for WellFgo to load their adds on a site that should be without anything external... Or speedtest.net where att

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Well said … KISS is very key for those kinds of sites…. Originally, people used to think that because everyone’s Internet connection was dial up or “slow high speed” that loading graphs and a lot of code was a problem .. then along comes “higher speed high speed” and suddenly the world got

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Interesting …. yeah the “metasearch” space is full of some good stuff too … i’ve dabbled it in less but didn’t find it very exciting at all :) Google has a significant marketshare at least in North America … Baidu and some others are big players in other markets … I firmly believe though that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Come on, wasn't there a thrill the first times you were able to go out and reach beyond your own computer systems chuck!wbmfg!att!ucb!mcco ( don't remember the exact syntax but the !'s stand out... LOL ) On 10/27/2016 03:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Gopher... groan. Archie... Having

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Netscape, back in the day was the front end to the top 5 search engines and we distributed search queries in a round robin unless people put a preference in their settings. We had some glue that let us know how fast people went to an end site so we could rate the search engines internally..

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

We have hung about 6 of these for the local 911 guys... http://www.axis.com/ie/en/products/axis-p56-series They seem to work pretty well. On 10/27/2016 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We want to put a camera(s) at the top of a 400� tower. Best way to get 360 degree coverage? Paul Paul

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Gopher... groan. Archie... Having flashbacks now... -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines Ah yes ... classic ... My first search was done on gopher and wais :) Sent from

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

monitor your ttls, maybe its dynamically changing on each stream, different ttls all the way across On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > The R1 and R2 interfaces are not facing each other, they are both > connected separately to the Internet.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

youll never have the access google bots have, there would be no way to do better a hybrid google search engine, now that would be boss i assume there is an api visual boolean, menu driven inurl, etc that sort of stuff maybe a darkweb tool On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Travis Johnson

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

I know it would not be a good idea to run PMP450 and PTP450 on same frequency but it sure would be nice if it allowed the next adjacent frequency to be used. We run multiple 5ghz PTP450i synced masters's on same frequency in different directions on same tower all the time. Keep them on one side

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

About 5+ years ago, I had a friend that built a search engine front end. You would input your search, and it would query Google, Yahoo, MSN and a few others, and then based on the results from all of them, rank the results you would see based on how the other engines saw the world. It was very

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Interesting and thanks… Have you ever tried Gigablast for example? (www.gigablast.com ) It’s a great example in my opinion of an “alternative” search engine that typically provides good results … I also find that DuckDuckGo (www.duckduckgo.com

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

Yeah. I never tried it before. It's not an awesome idea. But if the customer pays $1500 for the install, we thought we would try a PTP in their direction. 900MHz :-) Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-available-ipv6-support-for-amazon-s3/ On Oct 27, 2016 2:49 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Anyone in AWS won't, given AWS's poor to no IPv6 support. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

The only way I would use something else would be if it offered me something beyond what Google does. I've tried others, and the search results are often inferior, or the same, which doesn't leave me with much reason to use anything other than Google. I'd happily use a better product if it was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Common answer from lots of folks :) Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I rarely use anything other than Google... primarily because I'm lazy, and it > would take more effort to use anything else. > >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:23

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

I rarely use anything other than Google... primarily because I'm lazy, and it would take more effort to use anything else. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I liked web crawler before Alta Vista. > > -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart > Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Ah yes ... classic ... My first search was done on gopher and wais :) Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I liked web crawler before Alta Vista. > > -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:20

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

I liked web crawler before Alta Vista. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines No question Altavista was one of my favorites back in the day too! Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

The R1 and R2 interfaces are not facing each other, they are both connected separately to the Internet. R1 has a 1 Gig connection, R2 has a 30 Meg connection delivered over 100 Mbps copper. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Steve wrote: > I agree.. make sure you have R1

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

No question Altavista was one of my favorites back in the day too! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I was a huge AltaVista fan before Google. Been on Google ever since. > If I worry about privacy I presume Chrome Incognito mode helps.

[AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

Hey folks… I’ve been trying to figure out lately where to ask this question …. I have a long time hobby of working around search engines … actually building them, coding them, scaling them etc…. various open source, homebuilt, and commercial offerings I’ve used…. This is probably 20 years I’ve

Re: [AFMUG] OT Opinion Needed: Search Engines

I was a huge AltaVista fan before Google. Been on Google ever since. If I worry about privacy I presume Chrome Incognito mode helps. But I really don't search for stuff that will get me in trouble. Mostly I don't want the automatic ads that come from searching in normal or logged in mode.

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

YeahI'm curious who/what led you to believe otherwise. Did Cambium sales or support ever say that a PTP could sync with a PMP? On 10/27/2016 4:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: The other problem since the beginning of time with Canopy style PTPs is that the master starts up in beaconing mode

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

And you complain you are not chopped liver and yet, leads are callen ☺ no worries.!!! Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

The other problem since the beginning of time with Canopy style PTPs is that the master starts up in beaconing mode with a max range of like 120 miles and waits for a BHS reg attempt then does auto-ranging and shifts the timing. So yeah, it's pretty much impossible. On 10/27/2016 3:18 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

that's been true since the beginning of time. you can get it close with 50% downlink on the AP and then use the frame calculator to match the air delay parameter to the BHS. not easy at all but you could probably get it to work. your best bet is to use different bands for PMP and PTP tho.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

I'll email you offlist. On 10/27/2016 2:54 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: Simon. Let's talk. On Oct 27, 2016 12:50 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: I'm not sure, but I think we are probably in a minority, as we're onboarding a lot of customers right now who came to us

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Simon. Let's talk. On Oct 27, 2016 12:50 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > I'm not sure, but I think we are probably in a minority, as we're > onboarding a lot of customers right now who came to us explicitly looking > for IPv6 support. > > On 10/27/2016 2:48 PM, Jason Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Good marketing feature perhaps. From: Jason Wilson Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt Is sonar the only CRM that supports IPV6? I know currently Visp Does not. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

I'm not sure, but I think we are probably in a minority, as we're onboarding a lot of customers right now who came to us explicitly looking for IPv6 support. On 10/27/2016 2:48 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: Is sonar the only CRM that supports IPV6? I know currently Visp Does not. Jason Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Anyone in AWS won't, given AWS's poor to no IPv6 support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason Wilson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 27,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Is sonar the only CRM that supports IPV6? I know currently Visp Does not. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

*shrugs* I just know what the reports say. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:36:28 PM

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

You want to re-use a distribution channel as a backhaul channel, too? That seems like a bad idea anyway. -- Nathan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

It should be, but not more so than pure routed IPv4. NAT has additional latency due to port mapping and lookup overhead. On Oct 27, 2016 2:21 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > There have been several reports that IPv6 is faster (likely due to NAT > boxes). > > > > - > Mike

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

He was talking about "you people". ;) On Oct 27, 2016 2:37 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > What do you mean, 'even Sonar'? We aren't chopped liver! > > On 10/27/2016 2:12 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > > I would totally agree here. We have deployed IPv6 quite a bit for

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

What do you mean, 'even Sonar'? We aren't chopped liver! On 10/27/2016 2:12 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: I would totally agree here. We have deployed IPv6 quite a bit for clients, our networks etc. However, the major issue is the hosting companies, most big guys, google, amazon, etc all

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

There have been several reports that IPv6 is faster (likely due to NAT boxes). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

Nah PMP450 with PTP450 Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I don't believe they're supposed to, assuming ptp650? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Costs are rising pretty fast. But yeah, why change if you don’t have to. So, Dennis, create V6 in a box that will allow us to assign only V6 to all new customers but will do the CGNAT for us at the edge for those times the customers have to visit V4 land. From: Dennis Burgess Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

I would totally agree here. We have deployed IPv6 quite a bit for clients, our networks etc. However, the major issue is the hosting companies, most big guys, google, amazon, etc all support IPv6, heck even Sonar does now! Hahah, but until the cost of IPv4 addresses is so high that no one;

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

We rate limit at the procera. For ring we are using mstp, (small L2 rings, each mdu has a vlan that gets encasulated into a vpls once it hits the fiber node) From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown >

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

Actually in my opinion what we need is better IPv6 adoption in general and this becomes a non-problem quickly :) I know .. good theory … and “we” are getting better though …. a lot of providers have gotten their heads out of the clouds in the past few years alone …. > On Oct 27, 2016, at

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

You can do quite a bit using MTs, just not as “simple” and logging stinks. You can do it easily enough. Just not in a “automated” way. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

I don't believe they're supposed to, assuming ptp650? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 27, 2016 2:37 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > I don't think their support department understands the concept of

Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft Store DNS

Sorry, Windows Store is the official name. It made its debut in Windows 8 as a place to get apps. No, I don't mean Microsoft Updates. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof"

[AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

I don't think their support department understands the concept of sync. But as of now we have given up on PTP products syncing 100% with PMP products. Oh well Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft Store DNS

You can't sysprep a machine that has had Windows Store application updates. The rest of the computer is fine to be on the Internet and updated. I know how the content is distributed, just not the FQDN they check for the store. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

What are you using for customer control and rate limiting? I know Netonix works well for smaller deployments. What ring protocol are you using? From: Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Ken, we have been

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

What we all need, is a low cost solution to stop needing more V4 IPs. If it is CGN at the edge with a limited pool of V4, so be it. But I want a solid solution that can be trusted. And I want and expert to come drop it into my company. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

On 10/27/16 10:37, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yes, but isn’t Webpass new enough at the wireless-to-a-building thing that they haven’t really tested what happens when adoption goes over the first handful of customers within the building? Webpass has been doing the building MDU thing via microwave for

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP v1 Ubiquiti?

I would consider using firmware that supports persistence. (Contact UBNT). Then write a simple scraper agent. On Oct 27, 2016 1:01 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: We want to monitor the radios themselves and I was just shocked at the v1 support on a device that is “powered by

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP v1 Ubiquiti?

You mean like this? On 10/27/2016 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: We want to monitor the radios themselves and I was just shocked at the v1 support on a device that is “powered by linux” …. But yes, I’d like to track several things on these radios including throughput, SNR etc .. I’m just

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP v1 Ubiquiti?

We want to monitor the radios themselves and I was just shocked at the v1 support on a device that is “powered by linux” …. But yes, I’d like to track several things on these radios including throughput, SNR etc .. I’m just starting to look at MIB support now - one example would be tracking

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

They offer $60 symetric best effort, some bldgs is up to 500 mbps or up to 1 Gig depending on the backhaul they have in place From: Af > on behalf of Ken Hohhof > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

Yes, but isn’t Webpass new enough at the wireless-to-a-building thing that they haven’t really tested what happens when adoption goes over the first handful of customers within the building? Also, it looks like they sell 100M, 200M, 500M and 1G service, and define speed as upload+download

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