Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 1:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for). Of all the alarm buttons I've ever pressed in elevators, they just ring a bell/alarm while pressed and that's it. Useful for Morse code

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet over existing rg-6 cable

2017-02-23 Thread Rory Conaway
Nice. Thanks. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet over existing rg-6 cable https://www.skyflynetworks.com/ - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

2017-02-23 Thread Jason Wilson
Now if I can manage readynet routers from cnMaestro then that would be the cat's meow. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Jason Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

2017-02-23 Thread Jason Wilson
Not that I am aware of... I am just tossing around a managed platform and I have a few of the ready net routers and just weighing the options. I am leaning towards Cambium since I am moving most of my network that direction. One platform would be nice. J Jason Wilson Remotely Located

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

2017-02-23 Thread Tim Reichhart
Mm no i just a router from them about month or 2 for testing. -Original Message- Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Date: 02/24/17 04:03:50am didnt ready net go under?  On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

2017-02-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
didnt ready net go under? On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: > It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the > R200/201. Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have > them connect to CNmastreo? > > J > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
british news in general seems alot more centered, but they dont have "freedom of the press" so there is a little more integrity in journalism since they cant just lie unabated On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I don't watch those. Zaz...I copy

[AFMUG] Readynet Routers

2017-02-23 Thread Jason Wilson
It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the R200/201. Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have them connect to CNmastreo? J Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
There are some animals that change gender throughout their life cycle (mainly fish, eels, etc). Weird stuff. On Feb 23, 2017 6:33 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > life is easy, I identify two genders, he/ and she, when actual science > from actual scientists who

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
If BS detector is off, how can you access MSNBC, CNN or Washington Post? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:47 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling Really? None of my devices can access Fox News...And I have my bullshit detector on lowest setting On

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
What does the Fox say? I heard Spicey said something today about a crackdown on recreational marijuana. First he says Dippin Dots aren’t the ice cream of the future, now this weed crackdown, it’s so depressing. Can I switch to the dishonest lamestream media and watch some cat videos?

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread Jeremy
The last year that this happened they extended the deadline. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > sweet!! no more back door to ROWs > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Jordan Gregory < > jgreg...@hive-wireless.com> wrote: > >> So I still

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Harold Bledsoe
LOL yes! On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:50 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > What is this “CD” of which you speak? Is that some sort of physical > media? That you would actually pay for? And not stream from the cloud? > > > > I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman. Track a

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
dude, if its on fox news its true, they said so On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Really? None of my devices can access Fox News...And I have my bullshit > detector on lowest setting > > On Feb 23, 2017 1:48 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
What is this “CD” of which you speak? Is that some sort of physical media? That you would actually pay for? And not stream from the cloud? I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman. Track a spinning disc with a laser while running or exercising. Yeah, that’ll work great.

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Really? None of my devices can access Fox News...And I have my bullshit detector on lowest setting On Feb 23, 2017 1:48 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > One for Jaime: > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden- > democrats-trump-was-right.html > > *From:* Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.sciencechannelgo.com/through-the-wormhole-with-morgan-freeman/are-there-more-than-two-sexes/? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
sweet!! no more back door to ROWs On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Jordan Gregory wrote: > So I still need to file ... not sure what is up. Interface is still > unavailable. > > Should I do it manually? > > Thank You, > > Jordan Gregory > Founder / CEO > Hive

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
life is easy, I identify two genders, he/ and she, when actual science from actual scientists who follow actual principles of science say otherwise, Ill listen (genetic anamolies are not examples of new, theyre failed mutations) On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:07 PM, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Adding second power supply to CMM4

2017-02-23 Thread Darren Shea
I did that with a rack-mount CMM4 before – connected the terminals to the 29V supply, then plugged it in. No effect on the PMP320s, and it worked perfectly for the new PMP450 AP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:33 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread George Skorup
I am Darth Tater On 2/23/2017 4:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Ha, that is fun indeed. I wouldn�t mind using Viceroy, or perhaps His Eruditeness. Grand poobah works too. *From:* Dan Petermann *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling I

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Harold Bledsoe
This is an LTE modem tethered to a mikrotik by usb so it feeds all the network and our cord cutter lifestyle. :-) I'm guessing very few use the tower and zero use it like me. Ping times are 40-50ms. Hal On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > It would be

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
What do you do when someone has multiple personalities and they all have different gender identities. I guess you can always tell them to go f themselves... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling Ha, that is fun

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Especially with IR cameras, in the fall and spring in the mountains around here, people start hiking on a nice day that is 60 degrees and quickly it starts to rain and a few hours later it is 25 degrees and they are not found in time – if ever. It even happened during the summer a few years

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Ha, that is fun indeed. I wouldn’t mind using Viceroy, or perhaps His Eruditeness. Grand poobah works too. From: Dan Petermann Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling I like this guys response to that issue at UM. I imagine he really

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
What about genetically modified organisms like this: From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Petermann Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling I like this guys response to that issue at UM. I imagine he really pissed

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Cameron Crum
I always thought something like this would be good for people lost in the woods. You always hear about these people who get lost for whatever reason and they send out search crews and helicopters because they are out of range of cells. If you could dangle one from a helicopter or now use a drone

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Dan Petermann
I like this guys response to that issue at UM. I imagine he really pissed off his professors. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/10/07/a-university-told-students-to-select-their-gender-pronouns-one-chose-his-majesty/ On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Jason McKemie

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Jason McKemie
It gets way more ridiculous than that with gender neutral pronouns - Ne, Ve, Ze, Hir, Zir, Xe, etc. People are just spoiled and/or have mental issues. You're either a he, she, or in some rare cases a he-she (hermaphrodite). Talk about first world problems. Look up Jordan Peterson, he's taking

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I will not argue with that The only point I want to make is .. Contrary to popular belief... The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code requirement(That is the fire alarm button is for). The elevator phone line is typically, fixed dial to the Elevator Management Company Call

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
We don't have as many pronouns as y'all do. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling They actually made up new pronouns for some of the gender

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Sliggindorf and Merkley Muffin -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling They actually made up new pronouns for some of the gender identities. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Christopher Tyler
They actually made up new pronouns for some of the gender identities. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:00:09 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
We need a like button for this. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > There are national fire codes that most jurisdictions adopt. > Same as the NEC etc. > > Irrespective of actual ordinances, the alarm companies are the ones

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
My only point is, Trump made one of his typical off-the-cuff/out his ass utterances, he was excoriated by the left press. Now it seems there was something of substance behind his comment. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sweden has accepted something like 25 times as many refugees per capita than the U.S. And they have been mostly men who can’t find work. Whereas the U.S. accepts mostly women and children, who have been heavily screened, and there are usually communities willing to help them integrate. I’m

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Perhaps "Whatever" could be the universal pronoun. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling How many pronouns are there? I, you, he, she, it, we, they, me, him, her, us, them, what, who, whom,

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
How many pronouns are there? I, you, he, she, it, we, they, me, him, her, us, them, what, who, whom, mine, yours, his, hers, ours, theirs, this, that, these, those, which, whose, whoever, whatever, whichever, whomever, myself, yourself, himself, herself, itself, ourselves, themselves, each

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread George Skorup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng On 2/23/2017 2:49 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Where it gets really crazy is when they start passing laws that you legally have to refer to someone by a pronoun of their choosing. They have something like this in Canada right now. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Where it gets really crazy is when they start passing laws that you legally have to refer to someone by a pronoun of their choosing. They have something like this in Canada right now. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I know it will be tried. > > We

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
One for Jaime: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans yes I have known

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans yes I have known trans people From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like that at all.

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I know it will be tried. We drilled a hole from the boy’s shower to the girls’ shower. First chance I got to look through the hole all I saw was Penni Depriest’s eye looking in on me. Then they put a bolt through the hole I felt like I was part of the Porky’s movie. I have no clue

Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like that at all. There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing that comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls, then probably you don’t have any friends or relatives that are transgender.

[AFMUG] Adding second power supply to CMM4

2017-02-23 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We have a CMM4 in production with 56v supply that powers 4 PMP320's. We are adding a 450 AP next week. Can we connect up a 29v supply without disrupting the CMM4? I realize this is not recommended practice but don't want to create an outage if possible.

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Christopher Tyler
Sorry, must have glazed over on that part. So, tethered to the ground and no on-board batteries. That makes more sense. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Zach Underwood" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Zach Underwood
Yes it does take about flight time "The tether between the drone and the ground provides a highly secure data connection via fiber and supplies power to the Flying COW, which allows for unlimited flight time." On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Did the dish

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Did the dish run away with the spoon? On Feb 23, 2017 10:27 AM, "Dan Petermann" wrote: http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2017/industrys-first- successful-flying-cow-live-test-is-made-by-att/

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
There are national fire codes that most jurisdictions adopt. Same as the NEC etc. Irrespective of actual ordinances, the alarm companies are the ones setting the standards if no one else is. I have been on both sides of this arguments when doing installs. If I am the regulated ILEC I

[AFMUG] OT trolling

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Bored. If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell would have identified as a girl I have not heard a single commentator address this issue. Boys will be boys. What do the lgbtqrstuv

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Christopher Tyler
The article didn't mention flight time and it looks kinda heavy. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Chuck, I have to disagree with you on part of your statement Local ordinances vary from region to region Fire Alarms ... are very particular, and require TWO POTS phone lines (at least in our region)... nothing else is acceptable Elevators ... no such requirement... the

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Here in Illinois, threatening to complain to the state utility regulator is not much of a threat. The state can't pay its bills and is in its 3rd year without a budget. Fining telcos for failing to provide service is not at the top of the agenda. Maybe Utah is different. Oh, and another

[AFMUG] Friday Fun - Brush with Fame

2017-02-23 Thread Ray Savich
Have you ever done work to connect a celebrity or well-known person using Cambium equipment? They need broadband too. Share your story and or photo of a famous person you connected (be sure to explain who they are for our international audience). Our judges will award a hat to the top three

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
This was a business on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley. They could get CenturyLink, but it wouldn't have been built out in time though. I don't provide them with internet service or anything of the sort. I'm their outsourced IT department. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Feb 23,

Re: [AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
I will take two please! On Feb 23, 2017 10:27 AM, "Dan Petermann" wrote: > http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2017/industrys-first- > successful-flying-cow-live-test-is-made-by-att/

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Fronter Good Copper Mutually Exclusive From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines We have Frontier. They have no “good copper”. They have waterlogged cables, and orange garbage bags on the side of the road where

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Most customers are within the boundary of a Local Exchange Carrier with a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity issued by the state public utilitity regulators. And, they are typically the COLR or POLR Provider (Carrier) Of Last Resort. Being such they cannot refuse to provide a

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, They aren't asking for the correct type of line. They just need a basic, metered use line from Centurylink. Travis On 2/23/2017 10:25 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: They don't require a computer anymore. I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of my

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
We have Frontier. They have no “good copper”. They have waterlogged cables, and orange garbage bags on the side of the road where pedestals used to be. If you are the last house on the road and the cable goes bad, no POTS for you. The mental image of well maintained copper cables is not

[AFMUG] Flying COWs

2017-02-23 Thread Dan Petermann
http://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2017/industrys-first-successful-flying-cow-live-test-is-made-by-att/

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
They don't require a computer anymore. I have some customers with POTS lines that have had far more issues than any of my magicJack customers. If you can get a POTS line for only $20/mo the that would be great, but this customer didn't have that option. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread Jordan Gregory
So I still need to file ... not sure what is up. Interface is still unavailable. Should I do it manually? Thank You, Jordan Gregory Founder / CEO Hive Wireless, LLC On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Dave wrote: > Exactly, I already filed so I dont know why I got another

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 09:11, Chuck McCown wrote: I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or burning building which would you rather have connected, magic jack or a good old fashioned POTS line on good copper? Who wouldn't prefer a magicjack connected to a random desktop?

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I own 3 buildings with elevators. We have landlines for each of them... cost us $20/month each (measured use lines). If your client is that tight on money to risk a lawsuit and possibly someone getting seriously injured and not being able to contact EMS, I guess that's their choice.

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I have mixed emotions. If you got stuck in an elevator, bank vault or burning building which would you rather have connected, magic jack or a good old fashioned POTS line on good copper? From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I had a customer here in Utah that didn't have their phone line installed in time for their inspection. 30 min before the inspector got there we bought a magicJack and a desktop UPS for it (internet router and connected switch already had a UPS large enough to last 72 hours). When the inspector

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Jason McKemie
The way their usage works - mobile devices, often indoors - this will only help in more densely populated areas, and at 5GHz you're going to have to be pretty close to that AP either way. Admittedly, I always think in terms of rural areas, where I can't see how this is going to have much effect. I

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
"we're sorry, but this elevator is now out of service. It will return to service at 8:00 am tomorrow..." -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/17 08:43, Chuck McCown wrote: Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there... All of the elevators at school had phone numbers that you could call them with because they were set up with auto answer speakerphones. Kinda fun to mess with people. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Fire codes require them for elevators and bank vaults and most alarm companies want them too. Especially for the fire alarm panel. Does not require power, it is arguably the most reliable phone line you can get, especially if it comes directly from the central office. But even if coming from

Re: [AFMUG] Fun in Dona Ana, NM

2017-02-23 Thread Sam Lambie
Please make sure that the pics are fuzzy. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > 2 inches of gravel ... Let me find pictures > > On Feb 22, 2017 5:36 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > >> Might not be an issue in New Mexico. Frost layer

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Elevators are faraday cages. Cell phones do not always work there... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline exactly? On Feb 23, 2017 8:37

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Theres a lot of 5 ghz so the can do CA with licensed and unlicensed From: Af > on behalf of Jason McKemie > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] Fun in Dona Ana, NM

2017-02-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
2 inches of gravel ... Let me find pictures On Feb 22, 2017 5:36 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Might not be an issue in New Mexico. Frost layer there rarely goes more > than 1/2" below the surface. > > > bp > > > > On 2/22/2017 4:33 PM, Colin

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Jason McKemie
I think the gigabit figure is a bit misleading is all. It says they are testing this with 60MHz of 2.5GHz spectrum. I'd have to look again, but there aren't a lot of carriers with a 60MHz nationwide footprint. Even at that, it will be split amongst all the users of the band. On Thursday, February

Re: [AFMUG] Fun in Dona Ana, NM

2017-02-23 Thread Sam Lambie
Down in southern NM, that is not an issue. Here in Northern NM, I have seen burst legs on towers that weren't set up to drain. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Might not be an issue in New Mexico. Frost layer there rarely goes more > than 1/2" below the

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Yes, check local ordinances. Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of hours. I would argue that a POTS line *is* the best way. Yes an ATA and a UPS meet the letter of the law,

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
“Hardline” is another of those terms people use but if you ask them what it means they have no idea. Are they telling us we need to use Heliax? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Multihaul PTMP 60 ghz

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
For 2000ft your best bet would be the Metrolinq Sector ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Bill Prince" > To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Using a network that's monitored 24/7 and fixed by dozens of people on call. Not like a $40 ATA that's getting covered in graphite in the elevator room. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Multihaul PTMP 60 ghz

2017-02-23 Thread Bill Prince
Ohhh. 984 feet. Shazam. bp On 2/23/2017 7:00 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: It's up the spec sheet download. Good up to 300 meters. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Bill Prince > wrote: I don't see

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Multihaul PTMP 60 ghz

2017-02-23 Thread can...@believewireless.net
It's up the spec sheet download. Good up to 300 meters. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > I don't see any mention of range. What's this good for? 2000 feet? > > > bp > > > > On 2/23/2017 6:52 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu Multihaul PTMP 60 ghz

2017-02-23 Thread Bill Prince
I don't see any mention of range. What's this good for? 2000 feet? bp On 2/23/2017 6:52 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: https://www.siklu.com/portfolio-posts/multihaul-point-to-multi-point/ *//* */Gino Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT has horns too!

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
35% more horny? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:55:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT has horns

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Nate Burke
AT Just tried to "upgrade" a location I work with from POTS to U-Verse, when I mentioned there is an elevator there, they said, "Oh, you're not eligible for U-verse Phone then". That didn't stop sales people calling once a week to schedule the "upgrade" though. On 2/23/2017 8:40 AM, Josh

[AFMUG] Siklu Multihaul PTMP 60 ghz

2017-02-23 Thread Gino Villarini
https://www.siklu.com/portfolio-posts/multihaul-point-to-multi-point/ Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
How do you think that call gets from Verizon to AT over that hardline exactly? On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see > where they're coming from. > > Having said that...who the hell

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Need to check with your local ordinances... In many places, folks are under a mis-impression that a hard line is required... (they confuse it with a dedicated line) We have clients that have voip phone line for the elevator. (using an ATA). Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet &

Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Internet is far more complicated than a pair of copper wires. I can see where they're coming from. Having said that...who the hell wouldn't use their cell phone... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:27 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread Dave
Exactly, I already filed so I dont know why I got another notice LOL On 02/23/2017 08:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Seven minutes after I get an e-mail from the FCC reminding me to file. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

[AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

2017-02-23 Thread Dave
Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with elevators that HAVE TO HAVE a quote "Hardline". I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think are about gone. A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT for their elevator. They paid out the waazoo to

Re: [AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Seven minutes after I get an e-mail from the FCC reminding me to file. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Thursday,

[AFMUG] form 477 filing

2017-02-23 Thread Dave
seems the filing interface is offline till further notice so hopefully its back up before march 1st :) https://apps2.fcc.gov/form477/login.xhtml --

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

2017-02-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Not really https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113 From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet over existing rg-6 cable

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.skyflynetworks.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:05:03 AM Subject: