Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

It's almost April 1st though! On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Hey man, it is not EASTER yet!!! > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge > > >

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

+Graham's number. They're about as dependable and un-biased as Fox "News". On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > You believe Breitbart?!?!? > > What planet you live on? > > > bp > > > > On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

Good info guys, thanks. The maximum distance between any two ONTs is good to know, although I doubt I'll run into that particular issue. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies < m...@mailmt.com> wrote: > Adam, > > Actually, you can go out further that 20km. I have

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Thanks to Google I know you like purple eggs with pink spots. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge Hey man, it is not EASTER yet!!! From: Rory Conaway Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

Re: [AFMUG] GPONStandards based GPON will only allow you to go 20 km and at a 32:1 split and normal cable you have plenty of light at that distance. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:13 PM To: Adam Moffett Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON Adam, Actually, you can go

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

Not sure if we are back to offending Ivan or looking at containers full of batteries. Containers are a magnet for thieves. They just cannot pass one up. Weld in a new door with a steel frame and steel door. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

Title: Re: [AFMUG] GPON Adam, Actually, you can go out further that 20km.  I have customers out as far as 29km.  There are two factors to take into consideration. 1. Optical budget.  Very simple math just like the wireless world.  Start with TX subtract splitter loss, distance loss, and

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Hey man, it is not EASTER yet!!! From: Rory Conaway Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

It is timing limited before you run out of light. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON There's a link budget calculation. I found some online calculators, but to be honest I didn't actually understand all the variables.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

The non trivial part is the balanced differential pairs from the SFP to the chipset. And then the initialization of the chipset. More work than I wanted to do. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:25 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

You believe Breitbart?!?!? What planet you live on? bp On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/ *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Sisyphus On Mar 30, 2017 8:12 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange- > says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/ > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, March 30,

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says-google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge Wha? citation? -- Original

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

There's a link budget calculation. I found some online calculators, but to be honest I didn't actually understand all the variables. Rather than barf it up, I signed up for a class. $195 http://fisuniversity.com/courses-fiber-to-the-x.html One rule of thumb I saw was you could go 20km on a

Re: [AFMUG] GPON

Optical link budget calculation in each direction, same as with direct point to point link budgets. But taking into account the loss from each splitter, and adding margin for things like unicam if you are using them. It can be done in Excel if you lay things out correctly. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017

[AFMUG] GPON

How do you go about calculating the maximum distance for a GPON system? Is it the total distance of all the fiber on a given PON? -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Wha? citation? -- Original Message -- From: "Rory Conaway" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/30/2017 9:47:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting this bill. They know Google

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

This is a big corporate handout, no need to get conspiracy theories involved. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting > this bill. They know Google has been supplying and

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Does Google or Facebook actually sell this information externally though? I was under the impression that they used it internally so that they could make their advertising and other services more profitable. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I heard

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

One other thing that I'm sure the Republicans considered when supporting this bill. They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and search engines for the Democrats for years. Hell, they started a company specifically to do just that. I think the Republicans are looking at

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

Google captures a lot of data that isn't from their core customers. They pretty much have their hands into most data moving around internet. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450M POE versus PTP650 POE

For 450i I've been doing -1/2 +3/6 -4/5 +7/8. 450i will take either polarity on any pair, 2 positive pairs, 2 negative pairs. BUT... Forrest mentioned before that you MUST have -4/5 and +7/8 like old Canopy or sync-over-power won't work, the radio simply won't see the sync pulse. The other two

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4 epmp and packetflux

Thanks Forest. If you need any testing done by me let me know. The sites is a little far away but I can probably get a tech to stop out and plug different cables in for me while I monitor remote. Just to make things a little more complicated I do have a PowerInjector and a SyncInjector at the

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

The switches say 20W max consumption each. Is that not including the SFP's? I assumed it was 20W when fully populated. I included a 27CFM ventilation fan for the enclosure. A chart in the Hoffman catalog suggests that'll keep me 15 degrees above ambient with a 100W heat load. I can add a

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Well that's with NO optics. I was figuring on the pair of BiDi's being part of the customer installation cost. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/30/2017 6:45:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 36 users?

Re: [AFMUG] batteries good deal?

follow up to this. The batteries are in there new home. More info here at my site https://mycontainerhome.org/solar-and-the-break-in-3-29-2017/ On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Ivan Kohler wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 08:51:18PM +, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Is it

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Back to topic a bit, this is what we use for Active Ethernet in a group of neighborhoods, servicing up to 576 ports/customers per cabinet. This is a parts list, I’m leaving costs out because I need to revise that on my own sheets. A 5’ cabinet with dual doors, a sun shield top and battery

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I've torn a couple apart that use a fairly easy to use chipset. But only available in commercial temperature range. Some of the battle here is figuring out the vendors who do this type of stuff. I want to avoid switches since I want this as transparent as possible, but I might end up having to

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

What george said. On Mar 30, 2017 3:25 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Yeahbut Cambium/Canopy sync > > On 3/30/2017 4:09 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Are you trying to redo the UBNT fiber-poe?� > > https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ > > > > From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

It's true, and it is the core business case of many other social network companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not to use the only ISP in their market? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

In my calc I counted both, because I was comparing AE to gpon. With gpon the "optic" is built into the ONT. With AE it's an additional expense over just the router. I'll write out some of the other numbers I have in a bit and post some graphs to see the break point on small AE vs gpon. On Mar

Re: [AFMUG] POE Polarities

No. I had them backward (I had to look)... On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > But 802.3at is this: > > Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is *NEGATIVE* > Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is *POSITIVE* > Pair 3: White

Re: [AFMUG] POE Polarities

But 802.3at is this: Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is *NEGATIVE* Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is *POSITIVE* Pair 3: White Blue.(PIN 4) & Blue.(PIN 5) is *POSITIVE* Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is *NEGATIVE* ... and I think you have

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently Google has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never crossed their minds. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

One side of the BiDi is $9, the other side is $12. Also, only one side of the link's SFPs were included in the original price. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Will you just concede already, I mean we're talking about SFPs! ;) On Mar 30, 2017 6:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of the BiDi with DDM, but just > standard temperature (32- 158). Not sure if they can get anything below > 32... at least at

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Yeah, I counted both sides. Look like a 10 Cisco generic is around $7 now, not counting their s/h. If you go bidi it's $12/each for 10Km extemp dom, or right what I said: $864 +s/h On Mar 30, 2017 6:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Those are all 10k or 20k optics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:51:10 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

1000ft is likely not going to be far enough given 36 subs in an area. You'll want 10K optics. On Mar 30, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > $7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) > $34/each for 10G LR > > Plus shipping > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of the BiDi with DDM, but just standard temperature (32- 158). Not sure if they can get anything below 32... at least at FiberStore. Gigalight has gotten aggressive again, so they're another option. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Right. I assumed BIDI and extended temp range with DDM on my $900, or rather $450 for the switch side. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team I didn't consider

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I didn't consider the optics at the customer locations as part of the cost of the box. I'm not sure he did either. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

72 optics * $12/each plus uplink optics On Mar 30, 2017 6:01 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: GigE optics would put him at $252 + S - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

BiDi is slightly more. A 10G BiDi is $48. Not sure on the temperature range. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I usually get industrial rated bidi optics, they're sightly more. On Thursday, March 30, 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: > $7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) > $34/each for 10G LR > > Plus shipping > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

$7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) $34/each for 10G LR Plus shipping - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

The pigtail is a good way to go, a Tyco FOSC400A closure can be had for about $100. Those Mikrotiks are going to get HOT in there. I have a cooled enclosure, and the one I was testing with got uncomfortably got when loaded with optics. Definitely get industrial temp SFPs if you're going that

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I don’t think so on Active Ethernet. It’s about $21 for a pair of SFP optics generic direct from China. $25 to be safe including shipping x 36 is $900. Am I wrong? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

At 36 users the switch heat/BTU is still problematic. AE optics for 1Gbps SFP for 36 users is around $900 like was mentioning below. Switch is probably less than $1800 for a 48 port (I use Planet). That switch can do most of the heavy lifting unless you are doing fancy stuff at that location

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

GigE optics would put him at $252 + S - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:45:54 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

36 users? Jesus. That would be hard to beat..Even though that puts you at $900 plus s/h just in optics, plus the switch cost. I could do some napkin math when I'm no longer at a stop light to figure out how many users per location the tipping point is for a low cost OLT vs something with 48 SFP

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I’ve got five of those, seem to working ok so far. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? Have you seen this one? https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11 I've never used

Re: [AFMUG] OT my new baby

Haha it includes an excerpt from the wikipedia article for Canopy... And that article includes a mention of Stinger antennas, I wonder who put that in long ago... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Motorola_Canopy=257651280=257645109 On Mar 30, 2017 4:49 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Four of the small mikrotiks with 10 SFP slots each. The enclosure is 12" deep, so we're cutting some L-brackets to mount them facing towards the door. I haven't thought much about a pigtail. I think it would be a few hundred bucks more expensive because I don't actually have a splice

[AFMUG] POE Polarities

>From Netonix: There are 4 Pairs and 8 PINs in an Ethernet Cable: Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is POSITIVE Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is NEGATIVE Pair 3: White Blue.(PIN 4) & Blue.(PIN 5) is POSITIVE Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is

[AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

While the FCC's proposed "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services" rule might not have been perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge

[AFMUG] PMP450M POE versus PTP650 POE

So we've powered up our first PMP450M on the bench, and we set up the power thusly: - 1/2 (return) - 3/6 (return) - 4/5 +56V - 7/8 +56V Broke out the power for a PTP650, and it has the power thus: - 1/2 (return) - 3/6 +56V - 4/5 +56V - 7/8 (return) I seem to

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Sounds like you're saying each copper injector port converted to an SFP? That would work. I could actually see that working very well with CWDM muxes and the existing 12/2 or 14/2 and 4x SMF hybrid cables on the market right now. But as I mentioned before, if you have a radio with only a

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Yeahbut Cambium/Canopy sync On 3/30/2017 4:09 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Are you trying to redo the UBNT fiber-poe? https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ From: Af > on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

Hot Stand-By, duh. Oh... On 3/30/2017 3:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: "Home and Small Business", I'm guessing (as opposed to the Enterprise products). On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote: What hsb stands for? From:

Re: [AFMUG] N-Male Pigtails for 5 GHz / A5c?

Thank you for the suggestions. I ended up getting cables from MPD Digital as Rory suggested. You can get them through Amazon (Good price, no website risk like their custom cable page had). They are not low PIM connectors, but I'm planning for this to be a set-and-forget setup... we'll see. Thank

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Are you trying to redo the UBNT fiber-poe? https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ From: Af > on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com" > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

So give us a rundown on what you consider a minimum equipment list please. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team Chuck I am working on this very thing as well. We have been in our small town for 4

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Chuck I am working on this very thing as well. We have been in our small town for 4 years. I think we will be done with it next year for sure. 1500 homes, I think I did 2 drops the first year…. LOL All of my storage and equipment is here taking up a 7200 square foot building. I have 3-4

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

What switch are you using for AE in that enclosure? Have you thought about using a pre-terminated pigtail? Just run it from your enclosure into your vault/splice case. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm on a similar quest for low cost deployment

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Busy and expensive. On 3/30/2017 1:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am trying to save the money on building my own stuff. But yeah, a nice lean model with best practices and procedures will work both ways. Most fiber contractors I know are very busy. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

"Home and Small Business", I'm guessing (as opposed to the Enterprise products). On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > What hsb stands for? > > From: Af on behalf of Eric Muehleisen < > ericm...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

[AFMUG] Giveaway camera for new customers

Looking for an inexpensive, but not junk, security camera to give away with new business installs. Not wanting to create a maintenance liability. Something like this maybe? https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Security-KAMTRON-Surveillance-Detection/dp/B01MF5X3TT/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

What hsb stands for? From: Af > on behalf of Eric Muehleisen > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Have you seen this one? https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11 I've never used it, but it's an unmanaged media converter and supposedly works to -40C. -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: 3/30/2017 4:07:17 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I looked at doing media converters last year. Not trivial. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:07 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I do like my planet switches due to the exteme temps they can work at and humidity. On 03/30/2017 03:07 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the fiber up the tower

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the fiber up the tower with syncronized radios at the top.. Think a multiport ubiquiti fiberpoe with sync over power and a gps receiver built in, along with tower-top

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

I Switched to Debian a few years back. On 03/30/2017 11:14 AM, Matt wrote: BIND or Unbound. On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos? On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matt wrote: Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days?

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Great for Caching local stuff and speeding up the end user experience. We have been running Bind since 2003 on 6 different machines. I recently had to purchase some newer machines to handle some requests that had been in service that long LOL I had to replace drives 5yrs into it but afterwards

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Bind for sho.. I usually stack pdns on our mail server though. On 03/30/2017 10:36 AM, Matt wrote: Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Why you should have your own DNS servers

Re: [AFMUG] Bevy of engineers

My head is starting to hurt looking at it :) On 03/30/2017 02:46 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Probably...Look at this old stuff.. On Mar 30, 2017 1:38 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: Are those eMachines running Windows 98?

Re: [AFMUG] Bevy of engineers

Are those eMachines running Windows 98? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Working with ABB, Siemens and Prosoft engineers at a reclamation >

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4 epmp and packetflux

Electrically a powerinjector+sync Rev J is identical to a syncinjector Rev H. Same circuit, add jumpers. There are of course some layout differences but electrically they're identical. This is exactly the type of weird crap we see with the ePMP, that makes no sense at all. I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

I would think you want ePTP coming from a Mimosa link. It wasn't sync'ed before. ePTP is minimal latency. Unless you're trying to connect to a TDD AP that's already up there. Be sure you change the max range on the AP!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

February came and went though =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > "R190 HSB 2x2 802.11 Wave1" > >

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I am trying to save the money on building my own stuff. But yeah, a nice lean model with best practices and procedures will work both ways. Most fiber contractors I know are very busy. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Are you willing to work a full time crew management job for free? The costs include all crew salaries, construction equipment and management to keep crew busy/around. No management and profit, no crew. If you are adding it to your existing company, then you need to add expense to manage it.

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

As time goes on, it appears that this will be a great opportunity for someone to come up with a model to do fiber build outs as a service to others. If you can figure out where all the time goes and eliminate that part of it , you might be able to make some real $$$. -bp On Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Even non-profits make money. On Mar 30, 2017 12:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this. I want it done > at cost. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this. I want it done at cost. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT,

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT, Time Warner, etc. We hired one to do all of our outside plant. Lots of  to be made if you do it right and have a good crew. They always hire local labor for ditch digging, but their splice crews and management are

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

If you're gonna go through all that, use ePMP 2k Lite's for the Tx & Rx filtering. I assume you're going to be doing 2 or 3 foot dishes at 23 miles anyway. TDD PTP = 40 miles ePTP 10/20MHz = 32 miles ePTP 40MHz = 15 miles I assume you want TDD PTP for sync. ePTP cannot be sync'd. On

[AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a small town or large subdivision, install fiber and move on. Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor costs low. Want to identify the minimum equipment necessary and the methods of construction to

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

If you can deal with the slightly higher latency involved in running tdd-ptp mode I'm not sure that there is a hard limit for ePMP. If there is it is likely 60+ miles. Running ePTP mode though there are distance limits of 32 miles for 20Mhz and 15 Miles for 40Mhz. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:36

[AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

The subject says it all. What is the Maximum link length that a ePMP1000 GPS Lite 5ghz will allow? More than likely replacing a Mimosa b5c link that is 23.1 miles. Mountaintop to Mountaintop. It looks like I have had a third b5c die. I'll know more once we get on site. Jason Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Well, I assign it via DHCP to my clients because it is actually very ‘close’ and appropriate to one of my provider networks anyways. I did some speed checks and it’s very good for the most part. Except when it’s not resolving or responding, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Stock BIND is fine most of the time, unless you require some new feature not available in EL. Security patches are backported into EL packages. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Matt wrote: > > BIND or Unbound. > > On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos?

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI

Which one is this? -Original Message- From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI Reporting back after a couple hours in use. This one works very well. Fast refresh. Watching videos is as smooth as my normal monitor

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

It's something along that line, but I'm guessing it's like the R200 - 2ghz only - with internal antennas. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, George Skorup wrote: > No idea.

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4 epmp and packetflux

Forest, We are running the sites on 200 foot wires. Power injector is in fact Gig and no jumpers were changed running on 48 volts. We are running through MTOW suppression REVD however we have bypassed the suppression to see if it makes a difference. It did not. I have also bypassed the

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

No idea. Based on the name though, wouldn't surprise me if it's just a 150N version of the R200. Also wouldn't surprise me if I was completely wrong. On 3/30/2017 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: There's a webinar on April 27 for it but I don't see the product anywhere. Anyone know what this

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

> BIND or Unbound. On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos? > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matt wrote: >> >> Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess >>

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Until they throttle your DNS traffic... or worse. Also, having off-net DNS resolvers means you're potentially not being served by the best CDN nodes for your network. That makes the performance of much of the Internet shit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Unless they're shit. On Mar 30, 2017 11:04 AM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > On the flip side. It's tough to beat the reliability of a DNS server > managed by a mega billion $$$ company with specialized IT guys babysitting > everything. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave

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