Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
Sure - I think the weekly report is 14+ days late so you can deputize to publish it whenever (will still push ahead with the changing cards to blots, so if that goes through it will be a little more currency-tracking-like). On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I confused Referee with

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
I confused Referee with Arbitor lol, sorry. One of the multiple positions G. has (I dunno if he wants it or not though) Referee seems subjective-based/easy (people frequently just suggest the Cards anyway too) so I guess I can do it. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Aris Merchant <

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Apart from not removing judges, Murphy is doing a pretty good job, and it's not terribly friendly to remove an active-ish officer. It's also a ton of work. Might I suggest something a bit easier for your first go (say Registrar or Reportor)? -Aris On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:01 PM Cuddle Beam

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
I'll take Arbitor I guess. Already set up for deputizing for it. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:52 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree. There are ton of vacant or semi-vacant offices right now that you > could take, what with G. being in like 3 things he doesn't

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
I agree. There are ton of vacant or semi-vacant offices right now that you could take, what with G. being in like 3 things he doesn't want and Alexis having just left. There are probably more offices than players at the moment, and we're struggling to fill holes. This is a good way of encouraging

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
I disagree—many offices involve a lot of work, so it's only fair to reward it, and for a reward to be meaningful if needs to be relevant. It's not unfair; if you want piece of the pie, vacancies come up fairly frequently. Gaelan > On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Cuddle Beam

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
How about we tie this into the "religious" gameplay we had cooking in that other thread? Offices working for the "greater good" and all. (I'm not too comfortable with Offices gaining currency of the 'main game' because I feel like that subverts gameplay, it's like if the Banker in Monopoly got

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
I hope you get better soon On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:32 AM, Ned Strange wrote: > Hope you're alright, Alexis :(. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I've just been hospitalized for an unknown amount of time; I will not be > >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
LOOL But yeah, we need to get this fix proposal passed quick. On 2/28/2018 8:52 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: Crap. At least I'm on a place where I can get more Apples. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: Nope, only Eastman weeks. Agoran

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
Crap. At least I'm on a place where I can get more Apples. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nope, only Eastman weeks. Agoran weeks start on Monday, and that's the > default. No assets gained. And you probably still burnt the apples. >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Nope, only Eastman weeks. Agoran weeks start on Monday, and that's the default. No assets gained. And you probably still burnt the apples. -Aris On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:31 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: > (They were actually created at the "end" of the week, but oh well lol,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
I'm confused? The assets are created at the end of every Agoran Week, which would be at midnight UTC on the Sunday-Monday interface, no? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I have to agree. The IRL time race is annoying. > > I take all resources at the

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
(They were actually created at the "end" of the week, but oh well lol, same idea) On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > New week, new resources. It's the 1st of March, and Agoran Weeks start on > the 1st. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Gaelan Steele

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
New week, new resources. It's the 1st of March, and Agoran Weeks start on the 1st. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait, what? Why do we have more assets at the facilities? I thought this > was weekly. > > Gaelan, a very confused Treasuror > > > On Feb

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, what? Why do we have more assets at the facilities? I thought this was weekly. Gaelan, a very confused Treasuror > On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I have to agree. The IRL time race is annoying. > > I take all resources at the Mines here and

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
Just aesthetics, really On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:03 AM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > It just doesn't sound right to me. Overlapping isn't that big a problem. I > mean, it's basically the same system anyway. I agree that a new name would > be nice, but... "You have

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
It just doesn't sound right to me. Overlapping isn't that big a problem. I mean, it's basically the same system anyway. I agree that a new name would be nice, but... "You have 2 Stains" doesn't have the right ring to it. It doesn't sound like a possesable object, and also sounds kinda weird and

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
I prefer a name which isn't "Blots" to avoid overlapping. Stains sounds pretty good. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Oh I'm cool with it mostly - I played in the first Blots era and was just > looking > for another theme for the fun of it, but

Re: DIS: Proto: Transactions

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:56 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > Title: “Transactions” > AI: not sure, help? > > Create a rule titled “Transactions” [power?] with the following text: { > A set of actions to be performed is a transaction if it is specified as > such by a rule with power

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
Oh I'm cool with it mostly - I played in the first Blots era and was just looking for another theme for the fun of it, but having done due diligence on alternatives I don't mind being retro. On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > It's fine to have something with a similar name. In the

DIS: Proto: Transactions

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Title: “Transactions” AI: not sure, help? Create a rule titled “Transactions” [power?] with the following text: { A set of actions to be performed is a transaction if it is specified as such by a rule with power [?] or greater, or the document or message describing the actions. If any action in

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Ned Strange
Can't we just call them sins? Penances? On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Yeah, Blots were the hardest for me, too, even after spending a couple hours > with a thesaurus and googling different religious words for sin. If no one > comes up with

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2018-02-28 Thread Ned Strange
Hope you're alright, Alexis :(. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I've just been hospitalized for an unknown amount of time; I will not be > about to play in that time. Apologies. I deregister. > > Alexis -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
I never actually read the Parties proposal, but I just looked at the Complexity system and I actually quite like it. If we decide to go with a idea-1-like system, then I'll just use that instead. On 2/28/2018 5:25 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Tend to agree. It may be useful to keep it around

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yeah, Blots were the hardest for me, too, even after spending a couple hours with a thesaurus and googling different religious words for sin. If no one comes up with something better then, blots it is. On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > Blots I don't know. Calling them Blots sounds the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote: > 8023* G., Aris 2.0 Zombie Lots G. 3 sh. > PRESENT. I'm concerned by the fact that nothing seems to require the > Registrar to flip the master switch of a zombie? If somebody explains why > or else proposes to amend this,

Re: DIS: Fwd: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Also, Notary should be in high, and Ref should be in mid. -Aris On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:02 PM Kenyon Prater wrote: > Confused by "Job Points switch which can only be 5", and then that also > seems to be the switch that tracks how many points e gets per month? Is it > a

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Blots I don't know. Calling them Blots sounds the best, but that's been used. Stains would work (they're stains on your soul), but it doesn't have the same ring as Blots or Rests. Temples we should just call temples or shrines, because those are generic terms at this point (unlike churches,

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
All the best for a good outcome, Alexis. On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I've just been hospitalized for an unknown amount of time; I will not be > about to play in that time. Apologies. I deregister. > > Alexis >

Re: DIS: PAoaM/Arcadia rules questions/suggestions

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Shouldn't the owner of the facility and the land be defined as always being the same? That way we don't have to worry about them ever getting separated. -Aris On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:29 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > I spent months revising this thing and you people are

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Tend to agree. It may be useful to keep it around permanently, rather than renacting it every time we need it, -Aris On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM Madeline wrote: > If you wanna do "X-paying Jobs", just reenact Complexity from the party > we had. > > On 2018-03-01 07:03,

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-02-28 Thread Aris Merchant
I like this. I'll have more detailed comments when it's typed up in a proposal, but I think that this fits with the spirit of what we're going for. Certainly it is a good idea to have a neutral spawn point, even if the colors don't mean that much yet. I suggest just calling the facility type

DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
A very rough draft for a proposal. I'm going to hold off on writing it up until the current mess is resolved, but I wanted to get feedback on whether the idea is interesting to people The proposal would: { Create a Land Type of "Gray". Land that has Land Type "Gray" is gray land. Gray land

Re: DIS: does pending work?

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
Even if pending with paper didn't work, pending without objection is untouched, right? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Yes. > > El 28 feb. 2018 13:19, "Kerim Aydin" escribió: > > > > > > > I'll admit, I've been pretty

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Madeline
If you wanna do "X-paying Jobs", just reenact Complexity from the party we had. On 2018-03-01 07:03, Reuben Staley wrote: Not that I'm in this for the fictional currency, but honestly, 3 coins a month for all this recordkeeping is not enough. I'm not writing up any ruletext yet, but I will

Re: DIS: Fwd: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Kenyon Prater
Confused by "Job Points switch which can only be 5", and then that also seems to be the switch that tracks how many points e gets per month? Is it a max of 5, or what? Other than that something like this could be good. Leaning towards the second because it's more flexible--you could imagine the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Essay Submission (Attn. Herald)

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Corona wrote: > 1. I did read through it, and asked others their opinion. What does > "guidance" > mean here? Maybe publish comments on your read-through, or maybe give a starting opinion on if a degree was deserved? (If you did something like this, many apologies, I

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Karma] Conspiracy? All A-initial Players with high Karma!

2018-02-28 Thread Corona
I think they were at -2 before, hence rebalance brought them to -1. Will check archives.​ On 20:43, Feb 28, 2018, at 20:43, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >By the way, I thought you zerored-out ProofTechnique and Ienpw? >(January >Karmic balance?) Though even if so it may have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Essay Submission (Attn. Herald)

2018-02-28 Thread Corona
1. I did read through it, and asked others their opinion. What does "guidance" mean here? 2. Right. Will try to get it done within the next two days, then. 3. I can't repeal things by myself on a whim, obviously. But okay, I'll search Assesor/Promotor reports for the past year and select some

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Karma] Conspiracy? All A-initial Players with high Karma!

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
By the way, I thought you zerored-out ProofTechnique and Ienpw? (January Karmic balance?) Though even if so it may have self-ratified since then. On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Corona wrote: > Indeed. > > This is a Notice of Honor: > -1 o (not a Player) > +1 Ienpw III (not a Player) > > ~Corona​ > >

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
That's a good start. Anything else you'd like to add? El 28 feb. 2018 13:07, "Gaelan Steele" escribió: > You have arbitor twice, but no treasuror. > > Gaelan > > > On Feb 28, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Reuben Staley > wrote: > > > > Not that I'm in this for

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Karma] Long live the Shogun!

2018-02-28 Thread Corona
(Late) apologies. Between all of the laws using them, I imagined I saw something to that effect. ~Corona​ On 23:45, Feb 21, 2018, at 23:45, Nicholas Evans wrote: >Unless something has changed in my absence, it's not official - just >culturally ingrained. I'm not interested

Re: DIS: does pending work?

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
Yes. El 28 feb. 2018 13:19, "Kerim Aydin" escribió: > > > I'll admit, I've been pretty much blipping over the details on > which parts of land failed to take effect. Is it safe to assume > I have a welcome package with paper to pend with? I don't want > the circularity

Re: DIS: PAoaM/Arcadia rules questions/suggestions

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
I spent months revising this thing and you people are just barely noticing this. Good observation skills, everyone. Okay, but in all seriousness, comments are inline. El 28 feb. 2018 13:17, "Corona" escribió: 1) When a player builds a facility, in whose ownership is

DIS: does pending work?

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
I'll admit, I've been pretty much blipping over the details on which parts of land failed to take effect. Is it safe to assume I have a welcome package with paper to pend with? I don't want the circularity of using non-existent currency to pend and fix a problem with currency.

DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Corona
As CuddleBeam has kindly demonstrated, the public facilities do not function as intended (i. e. give all players some starting resources). The map should not cause Agora to become a real-time game, where you just HAVE to log in at the start of every week or be hugely disadvantaged. Therefore, I

DIS: PAoaM/Arcadia rules questions/suggestions

2018-02-28 Thread Corona
1) When a player builds a facility, in whose ownership is it created? AFAIK, nowhere do the rules specify that. 2) Does anyone else think that the below wording is too vague about who from to whom is the facility transferred? "If the ownership of the Parent Land Unit of a Facilty is changed,

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-02-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
Ok folks, what's a set of religious terms for Blots, punishment, temples, and penance that won't be too culturally loaded for anyone? Keeping to the Agoran theme, something ancient Greece and pleasing the gods? Or something else (a little leery after the Karma/Eta thing annoyed some

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
You have arbitor twice, but no treasuror. Gaelan > On Feb 28, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Not that I'm in this for the fictional currency, but honestly, 3 coins a > month for all this recordkeeping is not enough. I'm not writing up any > ruletext yet,

DIS: Fwd: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
Not that I'm in this for the fictional currency, but honestly, 3 coins a month for all this recordkeeping is not enough. I'm not writing up any ruletext yet, but I will talk about 2 ideas I had for an office reform. First idea: 1. Players have a Job Points switch which can only be 5. 2. Sort all

DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
Not that I'm in this for the fictional currency, but honestly, 3 coins a month for all this recordkeeping is not enough. I'm not writing up any ruletext yet, but I will talk about 2 ideas I had for an office reform. First idea: 1. Players have a Job Points switch which can only be 5. 2. Sort all

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-28 Thread Cuddle Beam
I bid 6 coins on 4 and 5 On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I bid 5 coins on 4 and 5. > > Gaelan > > > On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > > > I bid 4 coins on auctions 2-5 > > > >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:45 PM,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-28 Thread Reuben Staley
Aren't the auctions broken though since Agora has to be the auctioneer? I remember someone saying that I am unable to transfer Agora's things, so I'm not sure investing in land is a good idea right now. El 28 feb. 2018 07:23, "Gaelan Steele" escribió: I bid 3 coins on auctions

Re: DIS: Proto: PAoaM Patch

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
This doesn’t need to be 3.1, just 3. Oops. > On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > Title: PAoaM Patch > AI: 3.1 > > — > > Remove the sentence "If the reenacting proposal provides new text for the > rule, the rule must have materially the same purpose as did

DIS: Proto: PAoaM Patch

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Title: PAoaM Patch AI: 3.1 — Remove the sentence "If the reenacting proposal provides new text for the rule, the rule must have materially the same purpose as did the repealed version; otherwise, the attempt to reenact the rule is null and void.” from Rule 105 “Rule Changes.” If rule 2599 is

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-28 Thread Edward Murphy
Gaelan wrote: I bid 3 coins on auctions 2-5. NttPF. Also, is anyone working on compiling a list of specific things broken with PAoaM?

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid 3 coins on auctions 2-5. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I bid on each an amount equal to its current highest bid, plus one coin. > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:11 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> Actually, your most