DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Medals of Honour fix

Want to pend this? -Aris On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 6:38 AM, ATMunn wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Name: Medals of Honour Correction Act > AI: 1 > Author: ATMunn > Co-author(s): none > > > In rule 2529 "Medals of Honour", amend the first paragraph after the

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Amendment

On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Ned Strange wrote: I object both for myself and PSS. to which intent? :P Greetings, Ørjan. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Well, I object. There is no reason we should allow you to reclaim your assets from a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

Currently, fabric is only used in some upper-level rank-up payments. I think it is the least useful of the nine economic assets right now. If someone wanted to help with that, I would appreciate it lots. On 4/11/2018 9:33 PM, Ned Strange wrote: I do have a question. What does fabric do? On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

I do have a question. What does fabric do? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > After thinking this whole thing through, I'm not sure that it's actually a > problem if people with zombies have tons of money. It's completely possible > to amass a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

After thinking this whole thing through, I'm not sure that it's actually a problem if people with zombies have tons of money. It's completely possible to amass a fortune by living off of public land, so little guys can still get money that they can spend on zombies and/or land eventually. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote: A related question, if a contact's state rests on something that is guaranteed to have a definite solution, but producing that solution computationally intractable, is there a mechanism for resolving that? It isn't paradoxical or indeterminate, it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

We could change the Boo Lien switches to some serious requirement instead of just "something scary" so that zombies actually are costly to hold on to. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: >> I think Corona

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > I think Corona was talking about the thing where Agora would get all the > money that people spent and distribute it tbuno the poorest players. That was > under the proportional economy where only 1000 shinies could exist. > > I think if we were to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

The contract's state would be fine, because it wouldn't be indeterminate. However, any conditional that depended upon it "depends on information that is indeterminate, or is impossible or unreasonably difficult to determine, or otherwise requires an unreasonable effort to resolve". We really

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

A related question, if a contact's state rests on something that is guaranteed to have a definite solution, but producing that solution computationally intractable, is there a mechanism for resolving that? It isn't paradoxical or indeterminate, it's just that we don't have the ability to determine

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

That's golden, almost title-worthy...​ On 14:42, Apr 11, 2018, at 14:42, Ned Strange wrote: >I found the answer, contracts can only amend themselves by >announcement (meaning my original contract there made does not work). > >I think contracts can only act by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

I think Corona was talking about the thing where Agora would get all the money that people spent and distribute it to the poorest players. That was under the proportional economy where only 1000 shinies could exist. I think if we were to reimplement that system, it would be too easy to scam, with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

That's what monthly salary is right? Problem of course is that applies to zombies too - excluding zombies from salary would balance though of course would devalue zombies. I was really surprised that the zombie auction prices were so low. In the current system, the ability to occupy multiple

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

Well, it would be good IMO if something like the now repealed redistribution of Agora's money to the poor was enacted. On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > I'm starting to think I've opened a proverbial Pandora's Box of sorts and > that the map and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

I was under the impression I had already collected stuff from (-1,-1) via Quazie. Anyways, you couldn't collect assets from two facilities, because Ensure Fair Distribution of Assets passed. On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, ATMunn wrote: > Actually I believe this failed,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

I'm starting to think I've opened a proverbial Pandora's Box of sorts and that the map and zombie mechanics are going to spiral out of control to create some ultra-capitalist society in the future. Oh well. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 07:33 ATMunn wrote: > Actually I believe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

I found the answer, contracts can only amend themselves by announcement (meaning my original contract there made does not work). I think contracts can only act by announcement, which seriously makes me wonder how I'm going to get all my assets back. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:33 PM, Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

A couple things: 1. Can a zombie "willfully" consent to joining a contract (R869 requirement)? I don't think so - see R2519. Nonetheless this may count as a "scare" since on reading that first message, people might not have known that. 2. I thought there was an "all parties have to have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

A finger-pointing should be shenanigans if it happens 14 days after the breach. However, the way it's written, it's the final fine that's ineffective if it's levied after 14 days (R2531). That should be fixed I think - given that the referee has a week to respond to a finger-pointing, e can

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Creation

Hey absolute hypothetical fellas: what would happen if I made a contract that said "this contract automatically amends itself to whatever text V.J. Rada speaks in front of his computer after saying zibbledy zobbldy zam" or something like that. would that work? and could I make the position of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

Also (as the person who made this paragraph because I couldn't be assed to format bullet points), we really need to fix that massive sentence with a bracketed list within the first clause regarding when cards may be imposed. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Ned Strange

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

So there's actually two limitations periods. The seven-day period for CHoJ and the fourteen-day one for overall response and Summary Judgement. The seven-day period should probably be tolled by pending CFJ, but I'm not sure about tolling the fortnight period. I suppose the fortnight period should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Referee] Weekly Report

Ah, I forgot that asset clause, and that pledges are assets. We're all good then, you're right. My deputization for finger-pointing should be good, I think that's the only official duty I tried to do when we thought I was Referee (other than a now-owed report). The clause you're seeking is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Referee] Weekly Report

There is the following provision "The recordkeepor of a class of assets is the entity (if any) defined as such by, and bound by, its backing document. That entity's report includes a list of all instances of that class and their owners." I'm 95% sure there was at one point a rule that said "if

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Referee] Weekly Report

>I deputize for the Registrar You'll have to do this again. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > GUESS WHAT: It's worse than that. There *is* no Referee's weekly report! > There's no place I can find that puts together "referee" and "Report". > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

That's not needed. The rules say punishment CAN only be imposed if a rule is broken so the Ref can simply impose punishment and then if the CFJ rules otherwise, the punishment never happened in the first place. Or not, if he so chooses. The Ref is entitled to rule finger-pointing as Shenanigans

Re: DIS: what happened to the silver quill this year

It was awarded in 2014 and 2015, but my memory (I think I was the Herald then) is that voting was lackluster even then. Agree with deletion. Though I'll note that Corona is still required by law to resolve the decision for this year (as Failed Quorum I assume). On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Ned

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

There is a CFJ pending as to whether this is shenanigans or not. Proto: Add to the finger-pointing rule, a third option for the referee: Impose justice, declare shenanigans, OR CFJ/point to an existing CFJ. On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Ned Strange wrote: > I point my finger at G. for failing to

Re: DIS: what happened to the silver quill this year

I don't think a Quill has ever been awarded, let's just delete the rule. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Corona wrote: > Nobody nominated a proposal & some said that the mechanism should be > altered, as the voting is usually kind of apathetic. > > --

Fwd: DIS: what happened to the silver quill this year

Nobody nominated a proposal & some said that the mechanism should be altered, as the voting is usually kind of apathetic. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Ned Strange* Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 Subject: DIS: what happened to the silver quill this

DIS: what happened to the silver quill this year

see title -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

That was simple oversight on my part. I wanted to just specify the message number mail-archive gives and generate the rest of the URL, but in updating the code, I must've forgotten to add the rest of the url. I'll fix it tomorrow when I'm not incredibly sleep-deprived. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 00:30

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

Oh, my, this is getting interesting. We'll just have to see how the judge rules. -Aris On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:41 PM Ned Strange wrote: > So I do just want to respond to that. > [quote]The Promulgator of a regulation is an officer, not a person[/quote] > The term

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

So I do just want to respond to that. [quote]The Promulgator of a regulation is an officer, not a person[/quote] The term "officer" is defined by rule 1006 as "the holder of an office". The holder of an office is a person who holds it at a particular time. Rule 1006 also states that "If the holder

DIS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- April 11, 2018

Thank you! On the online version the link to last change thing seems to be broken, I'm getting: link to last change: https://31241 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 11:21 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > THE MAP OF ARCADIA -- APRIL 2, 2018 > View an interactive version of this report