see title
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>From V.J. Rada
Nobody nominated a proposal & some said that the mechanism should be
altered, as the voting is usually kind of apathetic.
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From: *Ned Strange*
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018
Subject: DIS: what happened to the silver quill this year
To: "Agora Nomic discussi
I don't think a Quill has ever been awarded, let's just delete the rule.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Corona wrote:
> Nobody nominated a proposal & some said that the mechanism should be
> altered, as the voting is usually kind of apathetic.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:
There is a CFJ pending as to whether this is shenanigans or not.
Proto: Add to the finger-pointing rule, a third option for the
referee: Impose justice, declare shenanigans, OR CFJ/point to an
existing CFJ.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Ned Strange wrote:
> I point my finger at G. for failing to attem
It was awarded in 2014 and 2015, but my memory (I think I was the Herald
then) is that voting was lackluster even then. Agree with deletion.
Though I'll note that Corona is still required by law to resolve the
decision for this year (as Failed Quorum I assume).
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Ned Strange
That's not needed. The rules say punishment CAN only be imposed if a
rule is broken so the Ref can simply impose punishment and then if the
CFJ rules otherwise, the punishment never happened in the first place.
Or not, if he so chooses. The Ref is entitled to rule finger-pointing
as Shenanigans eve
>I deputize for the Registrar
You'll have to do this again.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> GUESS WHAT: It's worse than that. There *is* no Referee's weekly report!
> There's no place I can find that puts together "referee" and "Report".
>
> While the rules say the Re
There is the following provision "The recordkeepor of a class of
assets is the entity (if any)
defined as such by, and bound by, its backing document. That
entity's report includes a list of all instances of that class and
their owners."
I'm 95% sure there was at one point a rule that said "if any
Ah, I forgot that asset clause, and that pledges are assets. We're all
good then, you're right. My deputization for finger-pointing should
be good, I think that's the only official duty I tried to do when we
thought I was Referee (other than a now-owed report).
The clause you're seeking is in
So there's actually two limitations periods. The seven-day period for
CHoJ and the fourteen-day one for overall response and Summary
Judgement. The seven-day period should probably be tolled by pending
CFJ, but I'm not sure about tolling the fortnight period. I suppose
the fortnight period should b
Also (as the person who made this paragraph because I couldn't be
assed to format bullet points), we really need to fix that massive
sentence with a bracketed list within the first clause regarding when
cards may be imposed.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Ned Strange wrote:
> So there's actual
Hey absolute hypothetical fellas: what would happen if I made a
contract that said "this contract automatically amends itself to
whatever text V.J. Rada speaks in front of his computer after saying
zibbledy zobbldy zam" or something like that. would that work? and
could I make the position of asset
A finger-pointing should be shenanigans if it happens 14 days after the
breach. However, the way it's written, it's the final fine that's
ineffective if it's levied after 14 days (R2531). That should be
fixed I think - given that the referee has a week to respond to a
finger-pointing, e can le
A couple things:
1. Can a zombie "willfully" consent to joining a contract (R869
requirement)? I don't think so - see R2519. Nonetheless this may
count as a "scare" since on reading that first message, people
might not have known that.
2. I thought there was an "all parties have to have ha
I found the answer, contracts can only amend themselves by
announcement (meaning my original contract there made does not work).
I think contracts can only act by announcement, which seriously makes
me wonder how I'm going to get all my assets back.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:33 PM, Kerim Aydin
I'm starting to think I've opened a proverbial Pandora's Box of sorts and
that the map and zombie mechanics are going to spiral out of control to
create some ultra-capitalist society in the future. Oh well.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 07:33 ATMunn wrote:
> Actually I believe this failed, as I tried to
I was under the impression I had already collected stuff from (-1,-1) via
Quazie. Anyways, you couldn't collect assets from two facilities, because
Ensure Fair Distribution of Assets passed.
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, ATMunn wrote:
> Actually I believe this failed, as I tried to move from bla
Well, it would be good IMO if something like the now repealed
redistribution of Agora's money to the poor was enacted.
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> I'm starting to think I've opened a proverbial Pandora's Box of sorts and
> that the map and zombie mechanics are going to s
That's what monthly salary is right?
Problem of course is that applies to zombies too - excluding zombies from
salary would balance though of course would devalue zombies.
I was really surprised that the zombie auction prices were so low. In the
current system, the ability to occupy multiple l
I think Corona was talking about the thing where Agora would get all the
money that people spent and distribute it to the poorest players. That was
under the proportional economy where only 1000 shinies could exist.
I think if we were to reimplement that system, it would be too easy to
scam, with
That's golden, almost title-worthy...
On 14:42, Apr 11, 2018, at 14:42, Ned Strange wrote:
>I found the answer, contracts can only amend themselves by
>announcement (meaning my original contract there made does not work).
>
>I think contracts can only act by announcement, which seriously makes
>
A related question, if a contact's state rests on something that is
guaranteed to have a definite solution, but producing that solution
computationally intractable, is there a mechanism for resolving that? It
isn't paradoxical or indeterminate, it's just that we don't have the
ability to determine
The contract's state would be fine, because it wouldn't be
indeterminate. However, any conditional that depended upon it "depends
on information that is indeterminate, or is impossible or unreasonably
difficult to determine, or otherwise requires an unreasonable effort
to resolve". We really should
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> I think Corona was talking about the thing where Agora would get all the
> money that people spent and distribute it tbuno the poorest players. That was
> under the proportional economy where only 1000 shinies could exist.
>
> I think if we were to rei
We could change the Boo Lien switches to some serious requirement
instead of just "something scary" so that zombies actually are costly
to hold on to.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
>> I think Corona was talking about the thing
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, Kenyon Prater wrote:
A related question, if a contact's state rests on something that is
guaranteed to have a definite solution, but producing that solution
computationally intractable, is there a mechanism for resolving that? It
isn't paradoxical or indeterminate, it's just
After thinking this whole thing through, I'm not sure that it's actually
a problem if people with zombies have tons of money. It's completely
possible to amass a fortune by living off of public land, so little guys
can still get money that they can spend on zombies and/or land
eventually. The m
I do have a question. What does fabric do?
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:
> After thinking this whole thing through, I'm not sure that it's actually a
> problem if people with zombies have tons of money. It's completely possible
> to amass a fortune by living off of public
Currently, fabric is only used in some upper-level rank-up payments. I
think it is the least useful of the nine economic assets right now. If
someone wanted to help with that, I would appreciate it lots.
On 4/11/2018 9:33 PM, Ned Strange wrote:
I do have a question. What does fabric do?
On Th
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Ned Strange wrote:
I object both for myself and PSS.
to which intent? :P
Greetings,
Ørjan.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Aris Merchant
wrote:
Well, I object. There is no reason we should allow you to reclaim your
assets from a badly designed scam contract. I intend
Want to pend this?
-Aris
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 6:38 AM, ATMunn wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Name: Medals of Honour Correction Act
> AI: 1
> Author: ATMunn
> Co-author(s): none
>
>
> In rule 2529 "Medals of Honour", amend the first paragraph after the bullet
> list to read as fo
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