Re: DIS: Numbers and dependent actions

On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 12:40 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > Hi, > > I was reading the rules before registering and came across something > I didn't understand, I hope you guys can clarify this for me (I was > going to propose some change for the first part, but then I might be > the

Re: DIS: Re: Checking In

On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 17:50 -0500, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > Let's hope the third attempt works. I received this. I didn't receive your other messages. Agora has a long tradition of watchers, anyway. (I guess I'm one of them, too, at the moment.) -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8342-8348

On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 11:22 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > El 26/02/2020 a las 15:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-business escribió: > > I vote as follows, and act on behalf of o to vote as follows: > > > You bet I'm not thrilled to contest G on this, but I'm rather > confused. > I'm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Editorial Guidelines

On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:25 +, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora- discussion wrote: > Aris wrote: > > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran > > culture at this point, like the “or” suffixes at the end of offices. It’s > > part of what makes Agora different and unique.

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 16:17 +, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", > in the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a > more radical

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] De-secure Black Ribbons

On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 15:24 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Title: De-secure Black Ribbons > > Author: Jason > > Co-authors: > > AI: 3.0 > > > { > > Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing the text "This rule does not > specify any methods

Re: DIS: CFJ 3813 proto-judged FALSE

On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 18:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Also fun: the first clause of the 2018 proposal (8054) was: "Destroy > all contracts". It's clearly impossible for a proposal like this to accidentally destroy the ruleset, or other comparable important parts of Agora.

Re: DIS: CFJ 3813 proto-judged FALSE

On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 22:20 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > I would say that each consented to being bound by the rules of Agora > when they became a player (assuming nobody became a player under > coercion, or anything like that, which seems really unlikely)

Re: [attn: promotor] Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PSA: Online ruleset viewer

On Sun, 2020-02-09 at 14:59 -0800, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > I mean, didn’t we just do that, without any explicit rule at all? All > we need is an informal policy that we go with the officer’s > interpretation unless a CfJ decides otherwise. > > Alternatively, here’s a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn Promotor] Four proposals

On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 01:16 +, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 20:37, Edward Murphy via agora-business > wrote: > > Proposal: Meaningless extra coins > > (AI = 2, co-author = Alexis) > > > > Amend Rule 2483 (Economics) by appending this text: > > > >

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 18:02 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason, any agora-* conversation (tested with my register > message, a random one coming from agora-official and another one coming > from this list) includes a reply-to header which points to this list, >

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: the Dragon Corporation (the new TTC Corporation)

On Sat, 2020-02-15 at 16:54 -0500, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract > does not permit any entity to act on behalf of any other entity. This > contract cannot be amended to remove this paragraph or to add any > provision

Re: DIS: [Draft] Administrative Adjudication v2

On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 18:40 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I made several changes, including clarifying that the judiciary has > judicial review over memoranda. I also decided to go in the direction > of making memoranda purely interpretative, because I have other plans > for

Re: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie auction fix

On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 19:07 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > You're half right. Regulated actions have been around forever, but > after I ruled in my manifestly terrible opinion (TBH, a frustratingly > large portion of my opinions have been manifestly terrible) in CFJ > 3557 that

Re: Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie auction fix

On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 15:05 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Now here we are a third time. Whatever we can say about CFJ 3694, > the judgement is suitably unintuitive such that almost no one reading > the rules without this precedent/context thinks that zombie auctions > actually

DIS: Re: BUS: Warranty

On Mon, 2020-01-20 at 01:42 +, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: > I trusted (and still trust) em not to unnecessarily wreak havoc on > Agora if and when e is successful at perpetrating one. I'm intrigued at the suggestion that there may be times when wreaking havoc on Agora is

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 14:31 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome. [snip] > Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: > A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if: > > 1. e, acting as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: rant

On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 11:15 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Unfortunately, ratifying that they were delivered would seem to be at least > as complicated as undoing them. Per Orjan (sorry, having trouble getting > the O on mobile), it might require a separate document for each

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 03:32 +0100, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > Rule 1551 states: > >the gamestate is modified > to what it would be if, at the time the ratified document was > published, the gamestate had been

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 18:48 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > So, just to be clear here, we’re going to ratify the claim that a-o > and a-b stopped being public fora at the start time and resumed being > public fora at the end time? I’m good with that. Ørjan's issue is that e

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8277-8279

On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 17:32 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > (If Rance is a deciding vote on either of these, it may create a > paradox, since one of the messages in question takes Rance away from > me. I can't resist, really). Wouldn't the paradox just cause the ratification to

Re: DIS: Research Question

On Sat, 2019-12-28 at 14:11 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person > attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different > names. Does anyone know where that precedent can be found? It's > relevant to a

Re: DIS: Proto: Fool Season

On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 21:31 -0800, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > Title: Fool Season [snip] > If so, which of the implementations would work best? I'm worried about the reset button not working correctly due to damage caused while people are having fun. (It probably doesn't even work

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Prime Minister] Awards Month

On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 22:11 -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official < > > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > At agora-official, this fourth day of April in the Year of our > > Gregorian Calendar two thousand and

Re: DIS: Code licenses

On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 22:01 -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > Also, on the topic of real-world law: I've long wondered if it's > worth the trouble to add a disclaimer to the ruleset to clarify that > it isn't enforceable as a real-world contract. Does that seem worth > doing? In

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pointing Fingers

On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 08:07 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > For each such person who is not currently a player, I believe that > this has failed as they are not "a person (the perp) who plays the > game". It probably succeeded with regards to me. The rule was,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Clean r2493 (Regulations)

On Fri, 2020-03-13 at 09:29 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > Also, a bit related: what's the difference between "clearly" and > "conspicuously"? My intuitions don't work in the latter, and after > searching it they sound quite like the same thing. Is there > a source I'm missing?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500 (Weekly Report)

On Sat, 2020-04-25 at 14:53 -0600, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > The following is a Notice of Honour: > > +1 PSS for reporting for Treasuror. > -1 twg for leaving without resigning (I guess). > > By the way, I found the Kingmaking thread which pushed me over 1000 > coins. Thanks, I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500 (Weekly Report)

On Sat, 2020-04-25 at 22:30 -0400, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 16:55, ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Experience from BlogNomic is that many players apparently value > > causing a win to h

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] They sought it with thimbles...

On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 11:38 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal, "with smiles and soap", AI 1: > -- > > Create a power-1 Rule, "The Snark": > > When this rule is enacted, a proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Additional Official Patent Titles

On Sun, 2020-05-03 at 11:12 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 4/26/2020 12:04 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote: > > - Left in a Huff, awardable by the Registrar to any player > > deregistered by > > a Writ of FAGE, where the Cantus Cygneus that gave rise to the Writ > > was

Re: DIS: Research Request: Economics

On Mon, 2020-05-04 at 10:22 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > 2007Nothing I think (big rules reset year). > > 2008Notes, Pitch, Conductor. A fun and complex arrangement > about earning notes on a scale and playing chords to perform actions. The economy immediately

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who, > then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question > of who earns the coin. For what it's worth, I accept the argument

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I won the game btw

On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 19:03 -0600, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/5/20 6:45 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > Rule 2553: “If a CFJ about the legality or possibility of a game > > action” > > > > CFJ 3828: “A recent rule named "A co

DIS: Re: BUS: I won the game btw

On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:42 +1000, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > G's judgement of PARADOXICAL on a CFJ I called has been in place for > ten days, accordingly make me speaker/champ thanks Rule 2553: “If a CFJ about the legality or possibility of a game action” CFJ 3828: “A recent rule named

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Thesis Submission Peer Review

On Mon, 2020-03-16 at 19:48 -0400, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > Respectfully, although Aris's thesis is interesting and well-written, > it doesn't seem to show a great amount of analysis or research > effort. > I think that to be eligible for a degree, a thesis should show more >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Matters of Honor

On Sun, 2020-10-04 at 18:25 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 10/4/20 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 10/4/20 6:35 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora- > > official wrote: > > > > CoE: not all values of the Karma switch have their

Re: DIS: lists were briefly down

On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 20:22 -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > On 8/25/2020 8:12 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > > The lists were down for about four hours total. > > aw man, i had a brilliant, genius, unstoppable scam that i did during > that time and only could have done during

Re: DIS: Question About Agoran Birthdays

On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:08 -0700, Nathan LastName via agora-discussion wrote: > Hello! I had a question about Agoran Birthdays. Today is the date on which > I joined Agora. After one year of playing Agora, one celebrates their 1st > Agoran Birthday. Considering that today is an occurance of the

DIS: Backup list link on agoranomic.org is wrong

agoranomic.org currently links to < http://www.listserver.tue.nl/mailman/listinfo/agora> in order to specify where the backup list is. This is the incorrect URL (it produces a certificate warning). The correct URL is (i.e. with no www. prefix).

DIS: Re: BUS: [@ADoP] Name and Address Change

On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 19:08 +, nix via agora-business wrote: > As mentioned before (and I will once again confirm it in a reply to this > email) I'm switching to this email. I'd also like to use the name "nix" > instead of "nch". I can't remember if the rules allow multiple emails; > if

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 13:13 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 13:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > what author? only players can create proposals. (going by the > "Registrar's assumption" on greg's personhood unless a cfj finds > otherwise). Now I'm wondering if it's possible for a non-person to ever take an action

DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > - > > > > Title: Minion Plan > > Author: Thomas >

Re: DIS: Coming clean

On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 19:30 -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > [posting links here for the benefit of non-discord folk] > > Here are some messages "from" to various Agorans: > https://gist.github.com/Gaelan/e6f799142f98fa64f43344257b6b0ad5 > I have no idea how much the From

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 15:55 -0600, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-07-20 15:46, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > > I hereby register as a player. > > > > I hereby change my name to G. > > > > Sending this to a-b so that No Faking applies. > > I did not send this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory

On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 00:14 +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Wait, I didn't look very closely at the archive link I posted. It > looks like it has the inverse problem. > > My email client: the names line up. > > Gaelan's: zombie names are further to the right. > > archive page:

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer something something INFINITY ENGINE [Attn. Notary, Treasuror]

On Tue, 2020-07-14 at 23:54 +0200, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > Seeing how many active players were against this and this needs a > high amount of people to work... For what it's worth, I think it's likely best to fix this rather than leave the "loophole" open, and the best fix is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

On Sun, 2020-07-12 at 13:32 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > That presumes that I think bribery proposals are legitimate. I don't, > but if the rules explicitly make it so there's no legitimate way to > do something one is clearly intended to do, I suppose that makes it >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

On Sun, 2020-07-12 at 21:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Here are the votes withdrawals, 2 seconds before the voting period > ended: Did I really cut it that close? My usual aim for "before the thing happens" timing scams is at least 2 minutes, to allow for potential email

DIS: Test

No doubt this message will spur a flurry of suspicion and precautionary objections, but after being stuck with a temporary email client for a month, my main email client has started working for receiving Agoran email again. I'm therefore hoping that it will also be currently capable of sending,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor Sillyness

On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 08:44 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/24/2020 8:05 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 7/24/2020 2:40 AM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: > > > So there's precedent that you can basically take a shortcut to do many > > > actions (a loop of them) as long as it

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 23:06 +0100, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > It isn't me either. (If it were, the message would have caused me to > register, so this message would be Faking.) Registering anonymously > is the sort of thing I might do, but trying to cause confusion with > an existing

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 14:46 -0700, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > I hereby register as a player. > > I hereby change my name to G. > > -- > Trigon We used to have a rule specifically against doing this sort of thing, but it got repealed. CFJ 1703, which probably predated the

Re: DIS: [Tailor] Rethinking Glitter Prices

On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 18:20 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > As Tailor, I see and think about everyone's glitter use. Observing > it, > some glitters seem to be frequently awarded and often to the same > people. For Blue Glitter in particular, it's basically a

DIS: Re: BAK: Apathy Intent

On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 13:48 -0400, Jason Cobb wrote: > I object. For a moment, I was surprised at this, thinking that someone had managed to slip an apathy intent in via some mechanism I wouldn't receive it. But no, this isn't a reply to an email, it's just an email with "Re:" added manually at

Re: DIS: (proto) third level Turn Undead

On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 13:34 -0700, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > I know I did this with PAoaM, but I wanted to find a more relevant > example. Turns out that the phrases "registered person" and > "unregistered person" are used in Rule 869/47. I'd say that this kind > of implicit

DIS: Re: BUS: [RWO, attn. Treasuror] Asset Correction

On Sun, 2020-11-29 at 18:25:53 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I intend, without objection, to ratify the following document ~~~ > delimited document. > > ~~~ > One second ago, 1 legislative card was created in Aris's possession. > ~~~ I'm not a player, but would object if I

Re: DIS: Test

On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 18:41 +, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > I intend, without objection, to figure out if the lists are quiet or > down. I support. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [@ministor] lordy look at the time

On Sat, 2020-10-31 at 21:57 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 10/31/20 9:52 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > Take 2, now with extra pointless retroactivity > > > > I issue the following rulebending form: > > -- > > The following document, dated 01-Nov-2020 01:38:25

DIS: List test

I haven't seen any Agoran messages in a while, so here's a test to see if they're stil up. Also, merry Christmas, to those of you who celebrate it today! (I guess the previous two paragraphs may be connected.) -- ais523

Re: DIS: (proto) third level Turn Undead

On Sun, 2021-01-03 at 15:08 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Proto: Turn Undead, AI-3: > > Any player CAN, with notice, make a player who has not > made a public announcement in the past 60 days inactive. > > If an inactice player has been inactive continuously

DIS: Re: BUS: Auto-gesticulation

On Sun, 2021-01-03 at 20:33 +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > [JTAC wrote:] > > This violation is forgivable. If the perp chooses to publish an > > apology, e must include the words "I must read the rules thoroughly > > when attempting scams" > > In case you don't know it's usually

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating [attn. Treasuror]

On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:47 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 1/20/21 2:15 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I grant the Library the following promise: > > > > { > > > > If I am the bearer of this promise, I can cash it at any time and it > > has no effect.

DIS: Re: BUS: Hopefully not a mosuetrap

On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 21:20 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 1/21/21 9:16 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I consent. > > Okay I withdraw this consent because I'm terrified now. I suspect this is similar to "I intend." (or even "I object." if what you're objecting to

Re: DIS: [Proto] RWO for all

On Sun, 2021-01-31 at 21:17 +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > There are probably problems with the proto I haven't thought of, so > it might be more dangerous to pass this without careful scrutiny than > to just leave things as they are. I wonder if it would make sense to > leave in

DIS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (pledges & promises) [@Treasuror]

On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 20:42 -0400, ATMunn via agora-official wrote: > 9 instances of the following promise exist: > > "Two by two" created by Murphy > Bearer: the Library > Text: > > Cashing conditions: > > * If the

DIS: Proto: Cabals

Proto: {{{ A Cabal is a contract that was created after this rule was, and which was publicly designated as a Cabal at the time it was created. Players cannot join a Cabal if they are already a member of another Cabal. One Cabal is considered more Popular than another Cabal if it has more

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer requests help from Jumble

On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 17:20 -0500, notajumbleofnumbers via agora- discussion wrote: > I join that contract You need to send this to agora-business; posts to agora-discussion don't count. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3916 Assigned to ais523

On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 05:40 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > On 6/14/2021 3:08 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-06-13 at 15:47 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-official > > wrote: > > So a summary of my findings: > > - it is the case that petitions are directed at an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning Up a Typo

On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 15:28 +1000, Rebecca Lee via agora-discussion wrote: > Yep, it seems very clear to me that rule 2221 does not provide a mechanism > for changing the rules. It needs to be amended to state that it takes > precedence. The usual way to make this work is for rules to say

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer something something TIME MACHINES

On Thu, 2021-06-10 at 00:25 +0200, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > Scenario A: A player has taken over the economy since April 16 2021 and at > least four days ago.In this scenario, I grant the bearer a victory card. If > I do not have any victory cards, I instead create 3 blots in my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: humble agoran farmer something something TIME MACHINES

On Thu, 2021-06-10 at 01:01 +0100, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > Promises trigger platonically, so I guess you now have 4 mostly useless > Promises that might make people create victory cards in your > possession, if they somehow gain the ability to do so. (Nobody got > blo

DIS: Re: BUS: (@assessor) pppppowerup

On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 08:45 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy

DIS: Re: BUS: (@assessor) pppppowerup

On Tue, 2021-06-08, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength. > I pay a fee of 1 Extra Vote to Buy Strength.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@assessor) pppppowerup

On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 09:22 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > I had a feeling you'd bring this one up when I saw you register and saw > that your computer delivery was faster than mine :) ! My CFJ earlier was actually primarily intended as a test of my delivery times to -bus. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] May Stone Auction

On Tue, 2021-05-11 at 23:40 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > > > > > > I bid 85 coins on each lot. > > > > > > > I bid 127 coins on each lot. -G. > > > > > > I bid 130 coins on each. > > > > > I bid 131 coins on each. > > > > I bid 135 coins on each. > > > I bid 227 coins on

Re: DIS: Proto: Apology Ribbon

On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 02:02 +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Colour suggestions welcome. > > Proto: Apology Ribbon > > Amend Rule 2438 by inserting the following paragraph after the > paragraph > beginning "Orange (O)". > > Yellow (Y): When a person expunges one or more blots by

DIS: Re: BUS: [DoV] Dodging an obstacle

On Fri, 2021-06-04 at 15:46 +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I grant one Victory Point to myself (using my Legacy focus). > > I pay a set of 4 Victory Cards to gain 10 Victory Points. > > For the sole purpose of transferring the Trust (as defined under the > Obstructive Pooling

DIS: Re: BUS: Clearance on Voting Cards [attn. Treasuror]

On Sun, 2021-06-06 at 16:24 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Rose Strong via agora-business > wrote: > > I grant Aris a promise with the following text: "I Cuddlybanana > > transfer 1 > > Voting Card to Aris with the cashing condition > > Aris has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Clearance on Voting Cards [attn. Treasuror]

On Sun, 2021-06-06 at 18:51 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 6:41 PM ais523 via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Based on how much Aris is trying to hoover up all the Voting Cards > > recently: Hey, Agora, you should probably make proposal 8

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (contracts)

On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 00:56 +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > But perhaps we should allow post-dated messages. > > Instead of a clunky pledge: > >I pledge to transfer 100 Coins to ATMunn on January 1, 2022. > > just send a post-dated email: > >Date: January 1, 2022 > >

Re: DIS: [Herald] Scroll Stats

On Fri, 2021-07-02 at 20:35 +, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > I've been meaning to get to this, but I don't have everything set up > in a way to do as many categories as I'd like. However, I can at > least start doing a few categories. Here's some stats/leaderboards > for the scroll. > >

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 01:30 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > The proposal pool currently contains the following proposal(s): > The proposal pool is currently empty. You might want to fix this before posting your official report. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Arbitor Blots CFJ

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 15:40 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Those arguments seem quite confusing, but this seems rather simple? If > Person A and B are tied for the lead in something, does Person A have the > most? No, Person B has just as much. And vice versa. There is no

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] [Auction Regulations Proto] Rough Draft for Redesign

On Sun, 2021-05-02 at 16:09 +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Can an auction regulation give the auctioneer the power to destroy > assets, as this text purports to do? You could make the bids into promises. Then the auctioneer would cash the bid made by the winning player. --

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Splat Market] Order Book @Treasuror @Trustee

On Mon, 2021-04-19 at 14:16 -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > (This is probably the closest thing to a scam I'll ever come up > with.) If it makes you feel better about it, my Win by Solitude was obtained almost entirely using assets gained via this sort of scam (although I waited a bit

DIS: Re: BUS: I really hope I got it right this time

Lots of people recently wrote: > I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise. I just wanted to say how happy I am that something with the same purpose as submarine contracts is possible in the rules again (and that we have something worth trading for them). It's not quite as good as the original

Re: DIS: [Proto-Proposal] A way to limit the ways we can act

On Fri, 2021-08-20 at 03:03 +, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: >When a player is acting within a specific scope, if an action >which would otherwise succeed is blocked within that scope, then >that action instead fails. In theory this could be used to break other

DIS: Re: BUS: (@adop) Re: OFF: [ADoP] Floating salaries (attn Treasuror)

On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 14:57 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > > Proto: Amend Rule 2603 (Switch Responsibility) to read: > > > >For each type of switch which would otherwise lack an officer to > >track it, and is not defined as untracked, the ADoP CAN by > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 02:17 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot wrote: > The dice roll was: 34 > This is R1789, Cantus Cygneus. For reference: {{{ Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously by the Agoran community that e can no longer abide to be a part of it, e may

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3931 Assigned to ais523 [@Arbitor + Glitter]

On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 18:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 9/19/2021 6:36 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > We > > used to have an explicit rule that allowed players to win by proposal – > > wins as a consequence of a proposal passing wouldn't have been valid > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 20:28 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > "The Registrar shall note the method of deregistration for that > Player in subsequent Registrar monthly Reports."? This was my first thought, being the only fairly compact sentence in the rule. But we don't have anything

DIS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] September Stone Auction Resolution

On Mon, 2021-09-13 at 09:55 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: > This auction was a selective-bid auction. The awardees are as > follows: > > [Power Stone] -> Jason for 600 coins > [Wealth Stone]-> ais523 for 656 coins > [Concentration Stone] -> Jason for 600 coins Just

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Mad Engineer] Weekly Rule: Rule 2493/8 (Regulations)

On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 17:19 +, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: > That being said, my suggestions are: > > > A regulation CAN be enacted, amended, and repealed as specified by > > its parent [device]. [snip] > > By default, a [device] CAN, with 2 Agoran consent, enact, amend, or > > repeal

DIS: [Ribbon] Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3927 Assigned to Telna

On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 15:16 +1000, Telna via agora-business wrote: > The document that this CFJ is about does not purport to be a report - in > fact, it explicitly purports not to be one. This means that we cannot > assume that a list of stones contained within is in fact a list of all >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Proposal

On Sun, 2021-08-08 at 17:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I create a proposal with this sentence as its text, and make it > pending. I think that if this proposal is enacted, it makes a new proposal (a copy of itself) with no author. I was expecting this to be disallowed by some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3924 Assigned to Cuddlebeam [@Cuddlebeam]

On Mon, 2021-08-09 at 05:38 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 8/9/2021 5:37 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > With support from cuddlybanana and G., I group-file a Motion to > > Reconsider CFJ 3924. > > cuddlybanana's was nttpf. So it was. In that case my attempt to

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: asdfghjjl

On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 23:25 +1000, Sarah S. via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:41 PM Collin Tir via agora-official < > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I flip the activity switch > > I'm going to count this as having its intended purpose, I think. I also think

DIS: Re: BUS: Mad Engineer weekly random rule selection

On Mon, 2021-10-11 at 02:08 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora- business wrote: > The dice roll was: 67 > This is R2438, Ribbons. This is a pretty long one! For reference: {{{ The Tailor is an office, and the recordkeepor of Ribbons. For each type of Ribbon, Ribbon

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