[android-developers] Re: NullPointerException when using EasyTracker for analytics
No IDEA what is wrong. Only comment that I get it in Emulator only. On real device(s) it works well. Maybe related to SD card space? Tom On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:52:29 PM UTC+2, Efi Merdler-Kravitz wrote: Hi Guys, Once in a while an exception is thrown without a real reason from the EasyTracker code when posting events: ava.lang.NullPointerException at com.google.android.apps.analytics.GoogleAnalyticsTracker.createEvent(Unknown Source) at com.google.android.apps.analytics.GoogleAnalyticsTracker.trackEvent(Unknown Source) at com.google.android.apps.analytics.easytracking.GoogleAnalyticsTrackerDelegateImpl.trackEvent(Unknown Source) at com.google.android.apps.analytics.easytracking.EasyTracker$11.run(Unknown Source) at com.google.android.apps.analytics.easytracking.EasyTracker$TrackerThread.run(Unknown Source) Any idea what went wrong ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Strange Security exception while reading WiFi info
Hi, I'm getting error report from anonymous user with this stack trace listed bellow. I have no idea what is wrong as I checked permissions and I have uses-permission android:name=android.permission.ACCESS_WIFI_STATE/ in AndroidManifest.xml. Could anybody give me a clue what this exception means? Thanks java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start receiver net.hubalek.android.apps.makeyourclock.widget.xml.ClockWidget_2x1: java.lang.SecurityException: Calling uid 10171 gave packageandroid which is owned by uid 1000 1 at android.app.ActivityThread.handleReceiver(ActivityThread.java:1844) 2 at android.app.ActivityThread.access$2400(ActivityThread.java:117) 3 at android.app.ActivityThread$H.handleMessage(ActivityThread.java:999) 4 at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99) 5 at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) 6 at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:3728) 7 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method) 8 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:507) 9 at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:864) 10 at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:622) 11 at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method) 12 Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: Calling uid 10171 gave packageandroid which is owned by uid 1000 13 at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1322) 14 at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1276) 15 at android.net.wifi.IWifiManager$Stub$Proxy.getConnectionInfo(IWifiManager.java:683) 16 at android.net.wifi.WifiManager.getConnectionInfo(WifiManager.java:612) 17 at net.hubalek.android.apps.makeyourclock.widget.ClockWidget.onUpdate(SourceFile:98) 18 at android.appwidget.AppWidgetProvider.onReceive(AppWidgetProvider.java:61) 19 at net.hubalek.android.apps.makeyourclock.widget.ClockWidget.onReceive(SourceFile:337) 20 at android.app.ActivityThread.handleReceiver(ActivityThread.java:1833) 21 ... 10 more 22 java.lang.SecurityException: Calling uid 10171 gave packageandroid which is owned by uid 1000 23 at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1322) 24 at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1276) 25 at android.net.wifi.IWifiManager$Stub$Proxy.getConnectionInfo(IWifiManager.java:683) 26 at android.net.wifi.WifiManager.getConnectionInfo(WifiManager.java:612) 27 at net.hubalek.android.apps.makeyourclock.widget.ClockWidget.onUpdate(SourceFile:98) 28 at android.appwidget.AppWidgetProvider.onReceive(AppWidgetProvider.java:61) 29 at net.hubalek.android.apps.makeyourclock.widget.ClockWidget.onReceive(SourceFile:337) 30 at android.app.ActivityThread.handleReceiver(ActivityThread.java:1833) 31 at android.app.ActivityThread.access$2400(ActivityThread.java:117) 32 at android.app.ActivityThread$H.handleMessage(ActivityThread.java:999) 33 at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99) 34 at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) 35 at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:3728) 36 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method) 37 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:507) 38 at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:864) 39 at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:622) 40 at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: HD Displays and JavaBinder: !!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!!
Mark, thanks for suggestion related to content provider. I made some research and content provider is not doable because I can send file reference only. My app is clock so I had to serialize bitmap every minute to SD card and it would be too much resource consuming. I finally ended up with sending smaller bitmaps and scale them up in remote view's layout. Back to original topic of this thread: Shouldn't be approach how to update bitmaps in RemoteViews changed? It is virtually impossible to make clock that is 4x4 icons wide. It would be either battery consuming or bad image quality. I have quite bad feeling from ContentProviders API. It IMHO violates good OOP design principles (why it expects file descriptors instead of streams? Why class ParcelFileDescriptor is tied to Socket, DataGramSocket and FileDescriptor classes? Should not be more generic with specific implementations for every Socket, ... in separate class?) I would love to hear from Google's engineers that they think about improvements of Widget API. Widgets are major advantages of Android (comparing to major competitors iOS and WP7). My 2 cents Tom On Nov 22, 1:50 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: OK, so, use a content provider. Admittedly, it'd be nice if there were a way to serve up files from RAM via a content provider -- the only way I know to serve files via openFile() is for them to actually exist as files somewhere, meaning disk I/O for no particularly good reason. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Using multiple remote views per update is a sure way to get a messed up widget after a configuration change, and sometimes sooner. 2011/11/22 Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com 2011/11/21 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com: BTW: Splitting bitmap into multiple chunks does now work as undocumented limit is for whole RemoteView update. Then use multiple RemoteView updates, one per chunk. Or use a ContentProvider. 1) What Google recommends to do? - Use content provider? Most likely. Why I don't get any Exception when something fails? Why there is only LogCat message that can't be handled correctly? If I had to guess, the failure is in another process, either the OS process or the home screen's process. You will only get exceptions for failures in your own process. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com|http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_ Version 2.1 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://github.com/commonsguyhttp://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_ Version 2.1 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: HD Displays and JavaBinder: !!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!!
I have the same feeling :-( On Nov 22, 1:27 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Using multiple remote views per update is a sure way to get a messed up widget after a configuration change, and sometimes sooner. 2011/11/22 Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com 2011/11/21 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com: BTW: Splitting bitmap into multiple chunks does now work as undocumented limit is for whole RemoteView update. Then use multiple RemoteView updates, one per chunk. Or use a ContentProvider. 1) What Google recommends to do? - Use content provider? Most likely. Why I don't get any Exception when something fails? Why there is only LogCat message that can't be handled correctly? If I had to guess, the failure is in another process, either the OS process or the home screen's process. You will only get exceptions for failures in your own process. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com|http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_ Version 2.1 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: HD Displays and JavaBinder: !!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!!
@BelvCompScs I'm sorry but I don't understand your reply. What did you want to say? Is it related to my question? How do you think I have to implement it? On Nov 22, 5:53 am, BelvCompSvs fa829...@gmail.com wrote: if you really want to have some fun go listen to Brad Fitzpatrick at the video tab of developer.android ~ then if you agree in principle with general concept of where he tries to go with the discussion consider writing correct code for your apps and do not engage lookbacks . I am not going against what you say On Nov 21, 4:54 am, Tomá¹ Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, my app Make Your Clock Widget (https://market.android.com/details? id=net.hubalek.android.makeyourclock.pro) is generating widget content as custom drawn bitmap. As you probably know there is (not specified in documentation but existing) limit on size of bitmap sent via RemoteViews. It was possible to live with it (I just didn't allow bigger widgets) but with HD displays this stops working as even 4x2 widget contains too big bitmap as 294 wide * 146 high * 1.6^2 (density of SGS display) was bellow limit but 294 * 146 * 1.97^2 (density of Galaxy Nexus) is above limit. There exist following workarounds but I'm not happy with them: 1) Create bitmap with Config.ARGB_?This causes banding for gradients and also antialiasing does not look superior. And also Config.ARGB_ is deprecated. 2) Generate bitmap in lower resolution and let layout upscale bitmap to appropriate size? This counteracts to idea of HD displays that should provide superior graphics quality 3) Created content provider that provides bitmap for RemoveViews bitmap and use method setImageViewUri()? BTW: Splitting bitmap into multiple chunks does now work as undocumented limit is for whole RemoteView update. So my questions/conclusions: 1) What Google recommends to do? - Don't allow smaller widgets than 4x2 for HD displays? - Render them in poor quality? - Use content provider? 2) I'm really unhappy with widgets API and behavior Why widget behavior didn't change since Android 1.5 when there was single core/MDPI only devices. It reminds me Bill Gate's 640 kB or RAM is enough :-/ Why I don't get any Exception when something fails? Why there is only LogCat message that can't be handled correctly? Why there is not meaningful documentation about setImageBitmap() method limitations in JavaDoc? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] HD Displays and JavaBinder: !!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!!
Hello, my app Make Your Clock Widget (https://market.android.com/details? id=net.hubalek.android.makeyourclock.pro) is generating widget content as custom drawn bitmap. As you probably know there is (not specified in documentation but existing) limit on size of bitmap sent via RemoteViews. It was possible to live with it (I just didn't allow bigger widgets) but with HD displays this stops working as even 4x2 widget contains too big bitmap as 294 wide * 146 high * 1.6^2 (density of SGS display) was bellow limit but 294 * 146 * 1.97^2 (density of Galaxy Nexus) is above limit. There exist following workarounds but I'm not happy with them: 1) Create bitmap with Config.ARGB_?This causes banding for gradients and also antialiasing does not look superior. And also Config.ARGB_ is deprecated. 2) Generate bitmap in lower resolution and let layout upscale bitmap to appropriate size? This counteracts to idea of HD displays that should provide superior graphics quality 3) Created content provider that provides bitmap for RemoveViews bitmap and use method setImageViewUri()? BTW: Splitting bitmap into multiple chunks does now work as undocumented limit is for whole RemoteView update. So my questions/conclusions: 1) What Google recommends to do? - Don't allow smaller widgets than 4x2 for HD displays? - Render them in poor quality? - Use content provider? 2) I'm really unhappy with widgets API and behavior Why widget behavior didn't change since Android 1.5 when there was single core/MDPI only devices. It reminds me Bill Gate's 640 kB or RAM is enough :-/ Why I don't get any Exception when something fails? Why there is only LogCat message that can't be handled correctly? Why there is not meaningful documentation about setImageBitmap() method limitations in JavaDoc? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: App Widget (Home Screen Widgets) size in Honeycomb
No commment on this topic? Tom On May 23, 9:16 pm, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I followed widget definition guidelines described athttp://developer.android.com/guide/topics/appwidgets/index.html#MetaData and I suspect that formula for calculation of widget size ((number of cells * 74) - 2) is wrong forHoneycomb. If wanted to create widget of size 6x4, so I added there 442x294 but this widget is reported byHoneycomblauncher as 5x4. Could anybody confirm/correct/explain my observation and update official documentation if it is wrong? Thanks a lotTom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: App Widget (Home Screen Widgets) size in Honeycomb
Thanks for your answer. Units are dip (not dp, I'll try to change dip to dp). According my observation this formula works well when widget's size is bellow 5 icons. The same behavior in emulator and on Acer Iconia Tab. Tom On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:30 PM, KlausSK8 klausmagalh...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you put those values of dimension? it have to be on value folder, widget appwidget-provider xml at what scale? dp ? it works in other device? maybe you have correctly created but the size of your widget Layout not using the entire area... On 23 maio, 16:16, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I followed widget definition guidelines described athttp:// developer.android.com/guide/topics/appwidgets/index.html#MetaData and I suspect that formula for calculation of widget size ((number of cells * 74) - 2) is wrong for Honeycomb. If wanted to create widget of size 6x4, so I added there 442x294 but this widget is reported by Honeycomb launcher as 5x4. Could anybody confirm/correct/explain my observation and update official documentation if it is wrong? Thanks a lot Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] App Widget (Home Screen Widgets) size in Honeycomb
Hello, I followed widget definition guidelines described at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/appwidgets/index.html#MetaData and I suspect that formula for calculation of widget size ((number of cells * 74) - 2) is wrong for Honeycomb. If wanted to create widget of size 6x4, so I added there 442x294 but this widget is reported by Honeycomb launcher as 5x4. Could anybody confirm/correct/explain my observation and update official documentation if it is wrong? Thanks a lot Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] My widget causing ALSA bufffer underrun?
Hello, I have a widget that has nothing to do with sound and I got report from one user that my widget causes lags in MP3 playing. He sent me log where is time relationship between update of my widget update and ALSA buffer underrun. To be honest, I have no idea how application can affect ALSA as I believe that multitasking is matter of Linux/Android and ALSA should have higher priority than update of home screen widgets. I'm updating my widget in service so I believe that I can't fix this issue. Can anybody comment on this and/or explain me how ALSA can be affected by widget. Thanks a lot Tom - Here is the log fragment - I/n.h.a.g.GaugeBatteryWidget( 2559): Creating dial painter with scale 1.5 I/n.h.a.g.GaugeBatteryWidget( 2559): updateAppWidget(130,class net.hubalek.andro id.gaugebattwidget.widget.BatteryWidget_2x1,ComponentInfo{net.hubalek.android.ga ugebattwidget/ net.hubalek.android.gaugebattwidget.widget.BatteryWidget_2x1}) cal led... I/AlarmManager( 2249): mWakeLock.acquire(500); D/libgps ( 2249): sec_gps_inject_location: latitude: 1202315965, longitude: 107 7554202, accuracy: 370810296 E/ALSALib ( 2185): external/alsa-lib/src/pcm/pcm.c:7231: (snd_pcm_recover) underr un occured D/AudioHardwareALSA( 2185): Write : Error = [0], mHandle =[110704]!! W/AudioFlinger( 2185): write blocked for 301 msecs, 2 delayed writes, thread 0x2 84b8 I/POWER_OFF_TEST( 2249): mBatteryLevel = 41 mBatteryDecimalPoint = -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] HTC Wildfire Home Screen Widgets issue?
Hello, multiple users reported that my widget does not surviver restart of Htc Wildfire. They said (I have not access to wildfire to test it) that widget works fine but after phone turn off and then on it does not appear (it says loading only). On my phones ADP1 and Galaxy S it work with no problem. Does anybody met the same issue with home screen widgets? Thank Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
That's crazy. I'm really curios why they are not able to deliver reliable metrics. First issue of such a nature occurred four or five months ago and still not fixed. What is so difficult on this metric? I always thought that Google employs first class brains, best in the industry. They are able to do a lot of magics in other products so why they are not able to sum a few numbers? What is the architecture that makes the trouble? Tom Dne 18.9.2010 19:37 Peter Sinnott psinn...@gmail.com napsal/a: Received this update this morning : Hello, We'd like to give you an update on this issue. We've previously stated that some application updates are incorrectly being counted as pure uninstalls rather than updates, causing the active installs metric to drop. We have now identified the root cause, and are working on a fix that we hope to release next week. However, due to the nature of the interaction between the Market client and our reporting infrastructure, it may take up to several weeks for your metrics in the Developer Console to return to normal. Again, we apologize for any inconvenience, and will keep you posted on our progress. Thank you for your continued patience. On Sep 15, 10:43 am, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote: Thanks for writing in. We are currently investigating this issue. So far, this appears ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:44 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Posted this in the other thread. We received a comment from the Market people: Thanks for writing in. We are currently investigating this issue. So far, this appears to be purely a reporting issue: some update events are being inaccurately recorded as uninstalls, rather than updates, creating a lower active installs percentage. However, our investigation tells us that applications are not actually being uninstalled. We hope to have a resolution soon. This is crazy. Tom -- http://android.hubalek.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
The same. I'm absolutely not able to track whether newly implemented changes caused more active installs or less active installs. I really don't understand why omnipotent Google is not able to fix so trivial stuff like reporting. I would like to get explanation what is preventing them from make solid stats. I would like to get explanation why it take ONE MOTH to get info that they are aware of the issue and they are working on it. Is Android Market just side project maintained by Google volunteers in their leisure time? Are developers like us important for Google? I have really bad feeling from Android Market overall. AM is probably my biggest disillusion in Android world :-( Tom On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Albert albert8...@googlemail.com wrote: This is crazy. Tom Indeed it is. One of my apps is dropping the percentage active installs by 0.50 %, and the other is increasing by 0.50%. I was happily thinking the new updates have attracted users to use the app more, but after these issues one can't be sure... Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
WE DEFINITELY NEED GOOGLE'S EXPLANATION Something is going wrong and nobody explained it. I believe we should move to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market?hl=en and ask Google's employees for explanation. Tom On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Peter Sinnott psinn...@gmail.com wrote: My active install percent has been dropping since the 25th of August. Bit of a bummer since it had been rising more or less consistently as new versions were released and I was hoping this was reflecting the increasing quality of my app. I had a strange and unsettling experience today that may be relevant. I was checking for updates in the market and there was one for AppBrain. I started downloading the update and left the market. I was notified the download (or maybe the install) failed so I re-entered the market. The market thought the download was still in progress so I cancelled it. After cancellation the market no longer thought AppBrain was installed but it was still on the phone as far as I could tell. I rebooted but that changed nothing. I installed it again via the market. During the install the market seemed to know AppBrain was installed (as if it was installed outside the market e.g via adb). In short, market place goes nuts and forgets the app is installed. User has app but never gets updates and possibly is removed from active installs. I was on the bus home from work so this (as with all user reports) recollection may not be 100% accurate but it is a possible explanation. Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Coordinates of touch/click on Home Screen Widget
Hello, I have a widget and I would like to detect position where user click on some part of the widget's bitmap. I didn't found any way how to detect coordinates of the touch on RemoteViews. Is anybody aware of some trick how to detect it. Only idea I have is create layout with grid of transparent buttons, put by widget's bitmap as background of such a layout and to every button set PendingIntent. Any nicer idea? Thanks Tom http://android.hubalek.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Fetch recurrent events
Mark, This is correct what are you talking about but Android world is absolutely not ideal. it is full of workarounds and if it weren't then it would be much worse place to live. Android Market is full of programs that are misusing API (eg. all task killers) for something that it was not intended (and they make live significantly worse for all widget authors), there is a lot of programs that use undocumented API (including mine) etc. That's reality and I believe that it is too late to change it. Just my 2 cents Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Coordinates of touch/click on Home Screen Widget
Only idea I have is create layout with grid of transparent buttons, put by widget's bitmap as background of such a layout and to every button set PendingIntent. I'd worry about the potential performance implications on the home screen for having that complex of an app widget. Otherwise, though, that should work, in theory. Mark, Thanks for answer. I'm thinking about quite small grid (about 15 or so buttons in total). Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Coordinates of touch/click on Home Screen Widget
OK, thanks a lot. Tom On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: 2010/9/9 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com: Thanks for answer. I'm thinking about quite small grid (about 15 or so buttons in total). Oh, that shouldn't be a problem. I was thinking you were aiming for thousands. BTW, you don't need them to be buttons. Anything can trigger the click PendingIntent, so I'd just use a grid of transparent ImageViews. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in London: http://skillsmatter.com/go/os-mobile-server -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
If you need assistance with controlled installs/uninstalls I can help you with two phones, just send me instructions to my email. Tom On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: I will try that right now. Good thinking. Report back tomorrow. -John On Sep 5, 2:05 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that odd? Indeed. Did you see what happens to the counts if you uninstall them? --- -- TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
Hello, I believe that this is some systemic issue with Android Market. Look at average deltas of my two apps. Both dropped significantly around August 28, 2010 and now they are getting slowly to original values. One my app: Date Average daily delta 3.8.2010 20:00:00 1 018 5.8.2010 8:00:00 1 081 8.8.2010 20:00:00 1 056 15.8.2010 20:00:00 888 19.8.2010 8:00:00 788 25.8.2010 8:00:00 445 28.8.2010 8:00:00 158 28.8.2010 20:00:00 31 29.8.2010 20:00:00 318 30.8.2010 12:00:00 835 Second my app: 3.8.2010 20:00:00 71 5.8.2010 8:00:00 74 8.8.2010 20:00:00 86 15.8.2010 20:00:00 40 19.8.2010 8:00:00 13 25.8.2010 8:00:00 13 28.8.2010 8:00:00 7 28.8.2010 20:00:00 18 29.8.2010 20:00:00 48 30.8.2010 12:00:00 77 I WANT EXPLANATION FROM GOOGLE as I don't trust number from Google. How I can be sure that sales are measured correctly? Tom On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 00:00 , Doug wrote: Here's a scary thought. What if, during development, every time you installed and uninstalled your app on your phone, Android phones home with an uninstall. Maybe that's a new feature of Froyo. Please, someone prove this wrong on this. :-) I've thought about that (with the exception that the new feature could be just due to an update on the Market - my own development phone is still running 2.1). This doesn't explain the facts, in my case. My active install ratio is still dropping :-( I got to 33%, down to 45/46% of two weeks ago, and I only disinstalled from my phone 3/4 times. I'd really like to have the feedback from Google engineering that there are no possible bugs in the market. Sure there are chances new users are not understanding something (my app provides features per geographic area, recently I've advertised the extension to North America, and users might not been able to spot it - in spite of a tip message on the home screen). But even one comment market that would suggest me this is in form of please add support... and means that the user didn't uninstall the application. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx8s0EACgkQeDweFqgUGxe99wCfSIumtqh7py5ENGXu20Ea8XZv 9K8AoI8ylhKu6zXio1K8JtMev9M+GA3h =fYdn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: As a side note, how are you guys tracking the daily history of stats? I suppose there's no automated way, right? So we have to set up a spreadsheet and daily copy the data, right? It is manual work. From time to time I look at developer console and copy three infos: date, downloads, installs. Then I calculate difference between dates as number of days and difference between downloads and calculate average daily deltas. I'm using this to evaluation of impact of new features and bugs reported. I'm really unhappy when I can't trust these numbers. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
Well, I'm not sure about this statement because if active install % is an (important) factor in app rankings, then I should very much be I don't think that number of installs has influence on ranking. There are apps with worse rating and less downloads than mine ahead of me. And I don't think that Google will explain how ranking is calculated. I believe that don't want advise spammers. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
On 15 srp, 02:28, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are - the developer console is useless for pretty much anything besides actually uploading an app (and even that it has trouble with sometimes). That install percent in particular fluctuates so often and so randomly it's hard to imagine it's based on anything legitimate. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
On 26 srp, 16:47, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: I've spotted this thread only now. It's happening to me too - in a week it dropped from a _steady_ 45% (held since several weeks) to 36%, with a single new active install out of regularly increasing new downloads. I even posted that on my blog - a commenter pointed out that when people upgrade an app the download counter might increase, while the active install doesn't (actually, I've released two updates in this month). Can you confirm? I can confirm the same last week. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Paid vs Free, My Early Experience
Mark, you are definitely right. There are few things that Google should do better to help us market out products: - allow to buy and sell in majority of the world - make useful android market web site with short app url that we could advertise. I really don't think that offer APK on my website is good idea even if it is free. - improve payment and licensing - I would like to make some contests, but how to do discount cupons or free licenses on current market? - introduce more payment methods - in app purchase, selective prices for different users/regions I believe that Android is awesome from technical point of view. But Google should hire somebody from Apple into Marketing team as current Android Marketing team is even not able to copy what is usual in Apple's world for years. Just my 2 cents Tom On 22 srp, 00:03, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Every seller of products and services on planet Earth has access to the most dizzying array of marketing tools in human history Could you elaborate, especially on the free ones? I have no marketing budget. Step #1: Build a Web site that does a decent job of explaining what your app does, probably in more than 325 characters Step #2: Add easy ways to get from the Web site to your app: -- market: URL for those browsing on their phone -- QR code for the market: URL for those knowing about Barcode Scanner or Google Goggles -- a good search term for which you'll come up #1 (if not be the only entry) when they search for you on the Market -- Chrome2Phone direct install -- download the APK from your site (if it's free, or you have a free version they can try) -- links to alternative market(s) you are in, for those who have Market-less devices Step #3: Steer people to the Web site, using the marketing tools that have been discussed, ad nauseum, for the past decade-plus, in Web sites, books, magazines, etc. In your case, I'd start with an email sig. Then, set up a blog, or be useful with your Twitter account, or do something else to keep your name out there. Find where your customers usually visit online and figure out how your links can get there (e.g., sigs in discussion board posts, somebody else blogs a review of your app, run a contest). Add value wherever you can, so that your marketing isn't purely seen as self-serving. Do SEO work on the Web site so that you climb steadily in the search rankings for likely search terms. And so on. There are many, many books available for learning how to market yourself online. Pick one that is relatively new (I wouldn't go older than 2007), since the techniques change. Be prepared to translate any concrete advice those books offer into other technologies that may have arrived since the book came out (e.g., Google Buzz). Understand that those books aren't specifically written for Android developers, and so some percentage of the techniques that they describe aren't necessarily relevant for you. Subscribe to the blogs or Twitter feeds of people with great insight (e.g., I follow Seth Godin). Continuously monitor other successful Android apps and reverse-engineer how they're driving their traffic. And so on. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://github.com/commonsguyhttp://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 3.1 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Market Licensing: Now Available!
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, James W jpbwebs...@gmail.com wrote: Hate to say it, but if Apple can do it, why can't Google...? Google don't want? Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: No plan to support Netbeans?
I'm using NetBeans at work daily for more than three years (creating swing based applications) and I adapted to Eclipse really quickly by mapping 10 most useful keyboard shortcuts in Eclipse. Rest of the IDE functionality seems very similar to me. I think it is useless to support more than one IDE as time spend on redundant work can be invested better to improvements of Eclipse IDE. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Market Licensing: Now Available!
Please open Android Market to more countries. This is really cool feature but currently useless for me. And also I would be happy to use this for in-app purchase if possible. Tom On 28 čnc, 11:32, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, just figured this out. The version code of the app I was testing was not one that was recognised by the Android Market. So, it is the combination of package name and version code that needs to have been published. Its sort of explained in line 2317 of the docs :) Once an application is uploaded and becomes known to the licensing server, developers and testers can continue modify the application in their local development environment, without having to upload new versions. You only need to upload a new version if the local application increments the versionCode attribute in the manifest file. On 28 July 2010 10:34, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm getting NOT_MARKET_MANAGED when using my own gmail account on my N1 and using Respond normally. The app is a paid app on the Android Market. The only difference could be the app signature (I'm debugging so not doing production signing). My gmail account was used to publish the app and I have not purchased the app with it. The other settings like LICENSED and NOT LICENSED work fine. Another point (though a minor one) is that its very slow (when it actually makes the connection). More than 5 secs on my wifi connection. Is this normal? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android market rules are changed, you must accept it within 30 days but...
It is not only target audience but also supply. I'm from country that can't even sell. I have quite successful application (1300 users rated with more than 4,5 stars and I have a lot of positive comments) and currently I'm covering costs of support and development from donations. If Google does not give me a chance to sell using their processor I will probably wait until they unpublish my app because of TOS violation and leave Android at all. I'm really frustrated from Google's approach to the developers. I'm NOT citizen of some banana republic, I WANT give Google their portion of the profit and they don't want it. They are loosing Android Market opportunities in China an India and they are doing their best to lose rest of the world too. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor
Neliz, don't worry. No silver bullets exists. There will be always significant limitations and it will be easy for simple tasks an unusable for anything more advanced. What I didn't catch is what is output of this app? Is it Eclipse project? Or APK with huge runtime? Unfortunately I have 1.6 device so I can't play with this app. Tom On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Neilz neilhorn...@gmail.com wrote: My initial reaction to this is slight annoyance. I feel undermined! Us developers spend hours, days, weeks, getting to grips with the technologies Android offers and then Google makes these things available to any old non-programmer. I'm hoping it isn't as easy to use as it makes out. Or am I missing the point? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I put a donation link in my free app?
Michael, seriously: where to ask? And do you think that you get it? Tom On Jul 13, 2010 10:30 PM, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You would have to ask Google about that, but the existence or lack of a market payment processor does not really change the terms of service. It's just one way in which those of us who are outside the Google Checkout zone are screwed over by the Android market. Regards, Michael A. On Jun 30, 10:21 am, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: And what if market payment pro... On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As I understand it (and as Andrew also mentions); yes - you can put a donati... android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%25252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-deve... android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%25252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-develo... --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com),http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/http://facebook.com/thubalek,http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalekhttp://twitter.com/thubalek,http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I put a donation link in my free app?
And what if market payment processor does not exist? Currently there is no market payment processor for many countries available? Tom On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, As I understand it (and as Andrew also mentions); yes - you can put a donation link in your App. However, you may not offer the user anything in return for the donation (i.e., no rewards), as that would amount to a sale and therefore be in violation of the TOS which require sales to go through the market payment processor. If there is a problem, that would seem to be the critical clause. Regards, Michael A. On Jun 30, 3:37 am, Alex Xin xinxi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Chandana Thanks for this very useful post! From the post one of Google employee wrote: *Our policies are intended to protect users from a situation where an app is listed for free, but then actually requires a payment inside the app in order for it to function. * * * *My question:* *User can use my free app in full function mode without any payment required. There's no any notification to user that they should donate in order to use my app, just a donation link in app's About dialog. What I want to add is just a donation, so my case is not the situation that they try to prevent. Does Google allow this?* * *thank you Alex On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Chandana Napagoda cnapag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think you need to go through these post's. They said you dev account might be banned. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=588c3. .. Chandana On 27 June 2010 18:46, Alex Xin xinxi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, folks I want to login my app as free app, but I think maybe I can put a donation link in my app, of course, my users can use my app without any donations. I don't sell my app. Does Google allow developer to do this? Thanks a lot Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What are the advantages of an Android Developers Device?
There is also dark side: Android Market problems in last months, buy and sell allowed in very limited number of countries, uncertainty regarding business model for developer. I don't think that everything is perfect. Tom On 30 čvn, 14:55, CodeFusion cboots1...@gmail.com wrote: Android is going no where? I'd say just look at how far it's come in only a year and a half already. It's already gone somewhere, nevermind where it could go next. On Jun 28, 4:01 pm, iC and iC++ mahd...@gmail.com wrote: Android is going no where. I suggest you put your efforts somewhere else. On Jun 28, 1:56 am, sagare sagar.ekb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I saw thishttp://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html and as per what i got the advantages of Androiddeveloperdeviceis that it is SIM unlocked and unlocked bootloader what i wanted to know is are there any other advantages than this of the Android developers Device? Also i want to know whichdeviceare all of the developers using for developing their apps are they using only Android developers deviceor any otherdevice? Also i want to know whether Android developersdevicehas Android 2.1 update? Also i want to know is motorola droid a gooddeviceto be selected for android application testing? Please help me on this. Thanks, Sagar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: User comments available in the developer console!
Still provides less info then third party apps like Cyrket or AppBrain. I wish I could see ratings pareto, rating as float number, charts progress of rating and downloads in the time. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: User comments available in the developer console!
And what I forget and I feel is very important: be able to contact user back with response to his/her comment. Eg. he or she gives bad rating because app is widget and he/she don't know how to install widget (it happens often even if I put it into app description). Then I wish I could contact back with explanation. Tom 2010/6/30 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Still provides less info then third party apps like Cyrket or AppBrain. I wish I could see ratings pareto, rating as float number, charts progress of rating and downloads in the time. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android paid apps in Ireland
On 21 čvn, 10:37, skooter500 skooter...@gmail.com wrote: (though I have users in 22 countries). I am not going to release it for free. It seems I cant sign up for a google checkout merchant account, because I live in Ireland and there are no paid apps allowed on the Irish Android Marketplace!!! Welcome to Android World where highest percentage of the apps on the market is free... We are going to communism where everything is for free and everybody is working for pleasure ;-) And all pigs are equal and some of the are more equal ;-) Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown
Not sure about 2.x versions but I'm sure that my 1.6 does not support it. And there is till about 50% devices running 1.x versions. Tom On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Lance Nanek lna...@gmail.com wrote: I‘ve seen Android's built-in crash report option on my Nexus One running 2.1-update1, so it isn't limited to just Froyo, at least. That said, it does require the user to manually press the report and then send buttons after a crash. I imagine an automatic system that requires no work on the user's part would capture more stack traces. Like how Google My Maps are public by default, or how the Replica Island app sends data about where users die and the like by default unless a user explicitly turns it off in the settings. On Jun 23, 8:36 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: I've been using a home grown crash dump send during a beta period. It coudl be redundant - or confusing now that the market has one. Am I right in thinking I won't need that once the app is on the market? Or is the crash dump ability in the market limited to certain devices? Any thoughts? Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Capture home key event
Many users don't understand difference between Home and Back button (according my experience of support of my apps) and in this case they don't understand why screen widget does not appear on home screen while configuration finished with Home button. I'm going to detect somehow that application went to background and accept this as confirmation. Any better idea? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GUI Design Patterns of the Twitter Client presented at Google I/O
I'm interested too. Even better would be to extract new GUI components into separate library to allow reuse by other apps. Tom On 24 čvn, 10:07, mboehmer mboeh...@fh-muenster.de wrote: Hi there, there was a talk at Google I/O about design patterns for Android. As an example, the Twitter client was implemented based on the proposed UI patterns. In the talk, they said that the code of the Twitter client would be made available as open source. I am very interested, especially in how the dashboard was implemented. Does anybody know if the source code is already available? By the way: here you can find some information on the design patternshttp://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/05/twitter-for-android-cl... Best regards Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Crash dumps - Market vs Homegrown
Nathan, I belive that homegrown (eg. ACRA - http://code.google.com/p/acra/) is must untl Froyo and newer become majority. Correct me if I'm wrong but on older version of Android there is no way how to get info about errors. BTW: I'm using ACRA in all my apps and it made my apps much better. Thanks to ACRA dev. Tom On 24 čvn, 02:36, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: I've been using a home grown crash dump send during a beta period. It coudl be redundant - or confusing now that the market has one. Am I right in thinking I won't need that once the app is on the market? Or is the crash dump ability in the market limited to certain devices? Any thoughts? Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers
Ayutin, I don't think they relaunch the program. They have enough developers and apps on the Android Market. Tom On 10 čvn, 11:24, ayutin ayu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they can re-launch the program. I just missed the previous one! On 5月31日, 下午1時50分, Henrik Sandström sandstrom.hen...@gmail.com wrote: The requirement was 5000 downloads by February 28th. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:47 AM, NightGospel wutie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does thisprogramstill continue? Because I have one app achived the threshold (over 5000 downloads and average rating is 3.5 up) two weeks ago, I hope I can be one of the receivers. :) NightGospel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Difference between SQLite on HTC Hero (1.5) and Nexus One (FR72)?
Maybe full SQL would give more clue... Tom On 24 čvn, 10:13, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Same data, same code, but different results on these two devices. On the Nexus One, the (INNER JOIN) query runs (first call to Cursor.moveToNext()) after a fraction of a second but on the Hero it just hangs. I haven't been able to reduce the scenario to something simple yet, but it seems to involve using OR within an ON clause. Anyone know why there might be a difference on these two devices? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Difference between SQLite on HTC Hero (1.5) and Nexus One (FR72)?
SQL Lite is definitely simpler but in Oracle it sometimes happens that the same SQL has very different performance on different versions because of different explain plan. Tom On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.comwrote: True - though the SQL is a little complex and I'd like to simplify it before posting. However, whatever the SQL is, there has to be an explanation for the different outcome. 2010/6/24 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Maybe full SQL would give more clue... Tom On 24 čvn, 10:13, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Same data, same code, but different results on these two devices. On the Nexus One, the (INNER JOIN) query runs (first call to Cursor.moveToNext()) after a fraction of a second but on the Hero it just hangs. I haven't been able to reduce the scenario to something simple yet, but it seems to involve using OR within an ON clause. Anyone know why there might be a difference on these two devices? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Capture home key event
Kostya, I will double check your suggestion. I'm not sure why I didn't do it in suggested way but there was some reason. Thanks Tom On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Tomas, If the activity in question is a widget configuration activity, how about having a create button? Another option is to set setResult(RESULT_OK, appWidgetId) and building the initial widget update in the activity's onCreate, so the widget is created by default. -- Kostya 24.06.2010 14:00, Tomáš Hubálek пишет: Many users don't understand difference between Home and Back button (according my experience of support of my apps) and in this case they don't understand why screen widget does not appear on home screen while configuration finished with Home button. I'm going to detect somehow that application went to background and accept this as confirmation. Any better idea? Thanks Tom -- Kostya Vasilev -- WiFi Manager + pretty widget -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers
BTW: I'm developing on ADP1 so I think that next seeding program could go to devs that bought ADP1 or ADP2 and have high quality apps although working with such a old fashioned hardware I have nice idea for app based on FroYo PUSH functionality, but no chance to test it in on my old timer ;-) Tom -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://android.hubalek.net, http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek http://twitter.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/android_dev_tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] MotoBlur Alarm Clock Intent
TreKing, thanks for email. This is functionality of my application http://android.hubalek.net/application/digital-world-clock-widget Many users asked to add option to invoke alarm clock settings from it. As it is not officially supported I found what intents calls standard alarm clock settings. Then some users reported that it is not working on their custom ROM (HTC Sense, Cyanogen, ...). So I started to build database of intents what executes various alarm clock settings intents. Now I have about 5 intents and my users use it quite often (according Flurry). Motoblur intent is probably last major one. Have a good day Tom On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:57 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/15 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com P.S. Various proprietary interfaces makes me crazy. There does not exist standard way how to invoke Alarm Clock Settings. Because the alarm clock is an app, which, like any other app, is not part of the official SDK and is not guaranteed to even exist, let alone in some standard format. Instead of asking how to continue this hack, explain why you need to call up the Alarm Clock's settings from your app and perhaps there's a better alternative to what you're trying to achieve. P.S. - Developers hacking around unsupported / non-SDK functionality and then asking for help on how to continue their downward spiral makes me crazy. I have to have database of various implementations of alarm clock (Android 1.x, Android 2.x, HTC, MotoBlur, custom ROMs, ..). Good luck with that. - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] MotoBlur Alarm Clock Intent
For sure it is worth the trouble if users get their functionality and are happy (and give a lot of stars ;-)) I'm not the one that can fix this issue (Google should create something like list of generic intents that programs can register to handle) I just have to play with cards I got. But never mind. I found one user that is technically skilled and is able to help me. Have a good day Tom On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:42 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/22 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Motoblur intent is probably last major one. Sure, for now, until the next phone with a new Alarm Clock, if any, rolls around. I guess it's up to you if it's worth the trouble, though. Sorry, don't have an answer to your actual question though. Good luck. - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace Migration Path
Jordan, this is IMHO technically impossible or at least it does not make sense and my be even illegal. What about licenses? Tom On 18 čvn, 23:47, Jordan ijt...@gmail.com wrote: As with any software it would be benficial to have an easy migration path from the main competitor in the landscape. Create an iphone/ipod to Android App migration tool. The android app marketplace could build a migration app or tool that allowed you to interrogate your itunes apps and give you a translation to the comparable Android apps on the android market that do the same thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] MotoBlur Alarm Clock Intent
Hello, I have a widget (http://www.appbrain.com/app/ net.hubalek.android.worldclock) that has option to invoke alarm clock settings. Does anybody know what is the intent that I have to invoke for MotoBlur? Thanks Tom P.S. Various proprietary interfaces makes me crazy. There does not exist standard way how to invoke Alarm Clock Settings. I have to have database of various implementations of alarm clock (Android 1.x, Android 2.x, HTC, MotoBlur, custom ROMs, ..). I think Android should contain generic intents that could be handled by tool of user's choice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Market problems again
The same for me. Number of people ratings dropped by two since Friday. I guess that this number cannot decrease... Number of ratings for my two other my apps didn't decrease but they get a lot of ratings everyday so small drop wouldn't be visible. Tom On Jun 14, 2010 7:35 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I am not 100% sure. My app's ranking is much lower than it was before the problem. Not sure if it's related or not, but sure is a coincidence. cor...@gmail.com wrote: Issue appears to be resolved. -John Coryat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Market problems again
I meant number of people that gave rating. This was yesterday lower than on Friday and today it is OK. Tom On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: What I meant by rating, not the star rating, but when do a list of all apps in my category, mine appears much lower than before. I know there are a lot of (secret) factors involved, but I still wouldn't have expected a drop. I dunno. On Jun 14, 2:17 pm, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: The same for me. Number of people ratings dropped by two since Friday. I guess that this number cannot decrease... Number of ratings for my two other my apps didn't decrease but they get a lot of ratings everyday so small drop wouldn't be visible. Tom On Jun 14, 2010 7:35 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I am not 100% sure. My app's ranking is much lower than it was before the problem. Not sure if it's related or not, but sure is a coincidence. cor...@gmail.com wrote: Issue appears to be resolved. -John Coryat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Market problems again
They are aware of this: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/06/download-count-problems.html Tom On 12 čvn, 21:31, Mr Pants pantssoftw...@googlemail.com wrote: Same here - ETA on fix please Mr Google? I hope it's not going to be like the last one which took ages On Jun 12, 7:19 pm, kozyr kozyr.develo...@gmail.com wrote: I have thesame problem -- my app lost about half of the installs as well yesterday night... On Jun 12, 1:08 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: My app suddenly lost half its installs :( Both on the Market website and on the device Market app. Does anybody else ee this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: App download/install count - market glitch?
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/06/download-count-problems.html On 12 čvn, 17:47, Ken ken0624...@gmail.com wrote: I have couple of apps (billboard100 and xmplayer) that had been reaching download/installs of 10k/9k+ and 9k/6k respectively. This morning the counts dropped to 1k/1k and 5k/3k. How is that possible? My ad clicks suggests otherwise. Anybody experienced the same? Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Adsense for mobile vs Admob
Ken, not sure whether you got permission from Google to share your revenues ;-) but many people has very similar experience with mobile ads. IMHO everybody has similar CTR and this is not serious model how to finance development of mobile apps. Hope Google understands it too and opens AM for paid apps from/for other countries. Tom On 8 čvn, 21:34, Ken ken0624...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I got accepted into Adsense for Mobile yesterday. Right now my app is running with Admob and generating about $6+ a day with 70k impressions (CTR ranges from 0.2% to 0.3%) . Just wondering if someone has experience with both Admob and Adsense, if so would you suggest changing to Adsense? Thanks. Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: App Pulled from Market
On 8 čvn, 03:44, Scott Kennedy skenned...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot find any written policy that I've violated, but I have a suspicion as to the part of my app that Google didn't like. I can Can you share what part of your app do you suspect? Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
Not in Czech Republic. Official price here is lower that in shop mentioned in your post. And again: it is not officially rooted! Contrary to phone I bought from Google couple moth ago. Tom On 5 čvn, 17:24, ko5tik kpriblo...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 4, 1:28 pm, Tomá¹ Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: In this case there is no chance in our country as Vodafone (as Nexus One distributor in Europe) said that they will not sell this phone in Czech Republic. I wish there would be ADP 3 as I like to have phone officially rooted (because of unofficially rooted phones lose warranty here). I bet that they: http://www.pdamax.de/ will be happy to ship unbranded HTC Desire to you. In any case better deal than branded and locked one from vodafone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
In this case there is no chance in our country as Vodafone (as Nexus One distributor in Europe) said that they will not sell this phone in Czech Republic. I wish there would be ADP 3 as I like to have phone officially rooted (because of unofficially rooted phones lose warranty here). Tom On 4 čvn, 08:29, Chi Kit Leung michaelchi...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, Google has shutdown their online phone shop ( as I remember). I don't think you can get Nexus One directly from Google anymore. 2010/6/3 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com I'm trying to put this question to the top again as I would like to know the answer from Google. For me as owner of ADP1 is starts more and more important as I don't believe in official Froyo port for ADP1. Thanks Tom On 21 kvě, 06:57, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Nexus One is not (contrary to Dev phones) available in our country (Czech Republic, EU member!). And probably never will be... :-( Tom On May 21, 2010 12:58 AM, Eddie Ringle ed...@eringle.net wrote: I think the Nexus One counts as the current unofficial Android Developer Phone. (Unofficial in that it hasn't been given that title officially) On May 14, 9:36 am, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm owner of ADP1 (1... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Regards, Michael Leunghttp://www.itblogs.infohttp://www.michaelleung.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
I'm trying to put this question to the top again as I would like to know the answer from Google. For me as owner of ADP1 is starts more and more important as I don't believe in official Froyo port for ADP1. Thanks Tom On 21 kvě, 06:57, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Nexus One is not (contrary to Dev phones) available in our country (Czech Republic, EU member!). And probably never will be... :-( Tom On May 21, 2010 12:58 AM, Eddie Ringle ed...@eringle.net wrote: I think the Nexus One counts as the current unofficial Android Developer Phone. (Unofficial in that it hasn't been given that title officially) On May 14, 9:36 am, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm owner of ADP1 (1... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Developer Console not showing number of apps
I have the same issue. It looks like http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?hl=entid=62421154b5203024 is still not solved. Tom On 1 čvn, 05:09, Edim eders...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, ps: sorry about my English... I had published an app and in two days the number of downloads were update normally. But since wednesday the numbers are the same, and I know that mny people had download the app. Anyone knows why? If there is anyone here that works in google, the app name is World DroidCup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Developer Console not showing number of apps
Edim, there is still issue (today we celebrate first week anniversary of this issue as this issue still seems to be living) in Developer Console (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread? tid=62421154b5203024hl=en). Please fill out this form http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/request.py?contact_type=publisher and let Google know that issue persists. Tom On 1 čvn, 05:09, Edim eders...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, ps: sorry about my English... I had published an app and in two days the number of downloads were update normally. But since wednesday the numbers are the same, and I know that mny people had download the app. Anyone knows why? If there is anyone here that works in google, the app name is World DroidCup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Downloads Active installs numbers frozen on Developer Console?
This topic is discussed in Android Market Help forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?fid=62421154b5203024000487b7a0fe93e2hl=en Google Engineers are aware of this issue and are working on it. Tom On 31 kvě, 09:51, Yorgos X yor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, For at least 5 days now the number of downloads and active installs have remained the same, surprisingly since it was changing day by day. I still see through my server that new people are registering, so definitely the counters are broken or the numbers dont get refreshed. Has anyone had a similar problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Downloads Active installs numbers frozen on Developer Console?
BTW: I have a question. Is any developer here who is NOT AFFECTED? I'm curious how big this issue is. Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
I'm still afraid that sales via slideme.org will be just a very small fraction comparing to selling my own licence keys to free apps via paypal. If you compare download rates for the same app on Android Market and on Slideme there is significant difference. But slideme.org is IMHO a proof that Google does not recognizes paid apps as a priority. Because if small private company CAN sell android apps and Google is NOT ABLE TO DO IT then it is probably because of strategy decision not because of any other reason. I wish I got clear expression from Google what are they priorities regarding Android Market. Whether ads or paid apps worldwide. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
For my country there is no authorized processor. Because of Google's approach we are criticizing here. I would love to use Google's immediately. I spent 350USD (phone and market entry fee) to start developing for Android and I would like to get my investment back. I hoped Google will help me by allowing to sell apps internationally. But they don't... :-( Tom On May 28, 2010 2:17 AM, Chi Kit Leung michaelchi...@gmail.com wrote: For Point 5, I think you cannot submit any apps to android market with the license key activation required as a free app. The policy are restricted the developers to use their authorize payment processor. 2010/5/26 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com What makes me crazy about Amir's vision: 1) Not all applications as suitable for AdSupported business model. I can't imagine how Home ... -- Regards, Michael Leung http://www.itblogs.info http://www.michaelleung.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
i agree with Andy. But there is some alternative markets than google. Unfortunately there is MANY alternative markets with very small share and very uncertain future :-/ Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
On 26 kvě, 04:37, Andy Savage a...@bluewire.net.nz wrote: I for one certainly wouldn't mind 10% of my revenue going their way if the apps store was fantastic and it was available everywhere. FYI: Google takes 30% of your revenue in chosen countries ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
What makes me crazy about Amir's vision: 1) Not all applications as suitable for AdSupported business model. I can't imagine how Home Screen widgets can be paid from Ads. There is too small space where to show ads that I believe it is impossible. 2) I can imagine applications where Ad Supported is most efficient way how to monetize your app via Ads - social networks, references, location based apps. Not many apps on AM can't use this business model. 3) According my friends revenue from Ads is currently very low. I can imagine that somebody pays one or two bucks for my widget but I can't imagine how many adds I have to display to get two bucks. How long time I have to wait until initial investment to Android Dev Phone and Android Market Entry fee returns back? And what is worse I have to buy another phone as my current Android Dev Phone 1 is currently antiquated and Froyo will probably never be at this phone. 4) In my country (Czech Republic) there is necessary additional bureaucracy to be AdSense member. Even if earn 1 USD per month I have to sign on as VAT payer with quarterly reports to government and quite complicated administrative. This is our local specific but it may be in other countries too. This is the reason that I can't even try AdSense in my app. 5) So only viable way how to monetize my apps is to develop alternative licencing method (licence keys paid via PayPal). This has disadvantages for both me and Google. I have to spend time on non productive work instead of improving my app. Every other developer has to reinvent similar wheel. Money transfer fees goes to PayPal instead of Google. There is no commission for Google. This business model may violate current (and future) application content guidelines. I have to solve somehow situation that Google prohibits this licencing model in future but I have to be fair to users that already paid. Etc. I hope that Google understands concerns mentioned here and they will open paid applications to the world. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Market Developer Console Bugs IS NOT WORKING properly for me.
Any update from Developer Console team? Two new bugs are still spook in my Developer Console even they are not new! Where to report bug like this? Thanks Tom On 21 kvě, 09:36, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: I have trouble with this feature. Data there are inconsistent!. On dashboard I have TWO new bugs. Going down I see one NEW and one OLD. When I click on NEW link I see one OLD only. When I go down I see bug marked as OLD. More info for Android Market developers: application: net.hubalek.android.worldclock, Exception class java.lang.NullPointerException Source method WorldClockWidget.onReceive() Fixing this would be really appreciated. Thanks Tom P.S. Is there any official way how to report bugs like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: In Google IO, they showed an app being installed to a smartphone directly from a desktop browser (via the internet). I'm hoping this will become a way to buy/install apps bypassing the Android Market app and so could potentially open app-purchases to countries that do not currently support paid apps. Push IMHO is just remote command for Android Market client not bypassing Android Market itself. I can imagine that alternative markets will use this but I still think that you need some 'listener installed in the phone. Buy a Nexus One direct from Google (i.e. carrier-free) and connect to the Android Market via wifi and you will not see paid apps (if you don't insert a sim card). There is no technical reason for this and its nothing to do with your location (tax-related issues), since you may well be sitting in a paid-app country. The problem is you don't have a paid-app country sim card inserted. What that has to do with anything is a mystery! This I can confirm. Many people here in Europe just buy prepaid US card on eBay then insert it into phone, BUY (!) paid apps and then return their local SIM back to phone. And this just works. This is crazy! This IMHO supports piracy because to get paid application from illegal source is probably easier. Tom -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Petition: Google, please improve the Android Market.
I'm contacting users by changing comment of the app (this causes that my comment goes to the top and users may read it). You can also spend some characters of description but it is too small for it. Both ways are just workarounds. I also would like the feature to contact users (especially users that rate bad because of their mistake or misunderstanding). Tom On 23 kvě, 20:48, Erik erikcell...@gmail.com wrote: Did they indicate what they would react to? I just published my first app last week, and I've been really frustrated not being able to respond to users comments! I was really surprised at the lack of functionality in the Market for developers. On May 21, 5:09 am, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: In different thread they said that the'll not react on petitions, but I still think that this petition is good thing. On 17 kvě, 11:42, rob irondad rob.irond...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, fellow developers, Just a quick update on the petition that was posted 3 months ago now, As of now it has been signed by 1246 people. Since the petition was made public, there has been recent reports about developers seeing crash reports and usercommentsin the developer console. This seems to indicate that points 2 and 5 of the petition will be taken care of in a near future! But as of today all the points in the petition remain valid. So far, there has been no reaction or acknowledgment from Google. Petition link:http://petitiononline.com/androidm -- Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AndroidDevelopers group. To post to this group, send email toandroid-develop...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups AndroidDevelopers group. To post to this group, send email toandroid-develop...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email toandroid-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Apps purchasing from anywhere in the world
This sounds terribly. I love AdSense in web pages as it is not annoying but sometimes even useful. But I really hate ads in software. I wish what you wrote bellow is not true :-( Tom On 25 kvě, 20:41, Amir Alagic amirs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't think that this will happen any time soon for you in Singapore. Google is living on ads and few months ago Google bought AdMob for 750 million dollars. It it not in their interest to improve paid apps after they invested so much money in mobile advertising. Last year Google said that they will give us list of countries that will get paid apps... but it is more than a year and still almost nothing. There were some rumors that paid apps will come to Sweden at the end of Q1 2009, then that it will come in october 2009, then that it will come in Q1 2010 but nothing. Many people ask questions about that on so called Help forum for Android Market but nobody from Google is answering even if some people asked for more than a year. People that were on Google IO got 100 dollars checks to use with Adwords/Adsense (friend that was there told me about that). It looks like that Google prefer adds... I hope that I am wrong. On May 21, 11:34 am, hotr0d cyberm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surrently located in Singapore and I really love my Nexus one and I would love buy apps from the market place. I hope the ability to buy android apps from anywhere in the world (just like Iphone apps) would be available really really really soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: I've found a way to stop piracy of my apps
I think that this is also way. But some users hate updates (I got feedback that my app has too often updates ;-) ). I still think that Google should provide API for programmatical verification whether user bought given copy or not. Tom On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ivan Greene ivant...@gmail.com wrote: for me, I am developing an app that I think will be heavily pirated. my idea to stop that is to require the user to update with each update I make (maybe once every 2 weeks or so), which would require them to buy it. the app needs to connect to my server anyway, so if it connects with an older version number, it tells the user to update. simple! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Android Market Developer Console Bugs IS NOT WORKING properly for me.
I have trouble with this feature. Data there are inconsistent!. On dashboard I have TWO new bugs. Going down I see one NEW and one OLD. When I click on NEW link I see one OLD only. When I go down I see bug marked as OLD. More info for Android Market developers: application: net.hubalek.android.worldclock, Exception class java.lang.NullPointerException Source method WorldClockWidget.onReceive() Fixing this would be really appreciated. Thanks Tom P.S. Is there any official way how to report bugs like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Petitions to Google
On 20 kvě, 16:12, Leigh McRae leigh.mc...@lonedwarfgames.com wrote: On 5/19/2010 11:49 PM, Xavier Ducrohet wrote: First the OP didn't talk about using a preprocessor for xml. I would agree that that would be odd and there are better tools for that. Still a preprocessor could be used to conditionally include a resource by id. How about I give you some concrete examples and you can help me see the light? Example 1 //#if BETA if ( hasBetaExpired() ) System.exit( 0 ) //#endif Example 2 public final class Assert { public static final void RIP( final String msg ) { //#if BETA sendReport( msg ); //#endif System.exit( 0 ); }} Example 3 public class Debug { void Println( String msg ) { //#if !RELEASE Log.d( TAG, msg ); //#endif }} Example 4 //#if PLATFORM_BLACKBERRY //@ omega = (float)MathUtilities.acos( cosom ); //#else omega = (float)java.lang.Math.acos( cosom ); //#endif Example 5 public static final float VecToHeading( float x, float y ) { //#if PLATFORM_BLACKBERRY //@ float fAngle = ((float)Fixed32.atand2( (int)(x * 65536.0f), (int)(y * 65536.0f) )) / 65536.0f; //#else float fAngle = ((float)Math.atan2( x, y )) * 57.295779513082320876798154814105f; //#endif if ( fAngle 0.0f ) return fAngle + 360.0f; return fAngle; } Leigh, have you ever heard about design patterns? Eg. strategy IMHO can solve all your requests. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: samsung app store
On 21 kvě, 11:48, Juan Delgado zzzar...@gmail.com wrote: +1 I think in the future companies building apps will sell them through their own channels. Sure you can buy Photoshop from many places (including Adobe's website), not only on a single store? At the end of the day you just buy it from the channel you trust. -1 I believe that a lot of people don't even buy Photoshop as it is expensive and difficult to buy. There is nothing like central store for Windows and buying software is really not single click stuff. For many people it is easier to download it from rapishare or wherever. People have no problem to spend small amounts of money when it is easy (= download from AM that is preinstalled in every phone). This is IMHO reason why there should be one well working(!!!) Android Market for Android. Me as a developer I don't want sell one application in many marketplaces. It increases costs and gives no added value to me and/or my customers. Unfortunately Google is not able deliver anything working for me (many countries can't visit the market, I can't sell apps, ...). It's shame as I think that working AM should be there from beginning. Non working AM supports many useless wouldbe alternative markets, pirats and confuses end users. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Petition: Google, please improve the Android Market.
BTW: In different thread they said that the'll not react on petitions, but I still think that this petition is good thing. On 17 kvě, 11:42, rob irondad rob.irond...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, fellow developers, Just a quick update on the petition that was posted 3 months ago now, As of now it has been signed by 1246 people. Since the petition was made public, there has been recent reports about developers seeing crash reports and user comments in the developer console. This seems to indicate that points 2 and 5 of the petition will be taken care of in a near future! But as of today all the points in the petition remain valid. So far, there has been no reaction or acknowledgment from Google. Petition link:http://petitiononline.com/androidm -- Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: G1 phone and update firmware 2.0-2.2 - question
Regarding first question: I'm also interested in. Regarding the second question I created similar thread but no response yet: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/37a8a9b34d1b2449# Tom On 21 kvě, 14:00, EvgenyV evgen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, 1. Guys please suggest some official Google/HTC link with explanation why HTC G1 phone can't be updated to Adroid 2.0-2.2 firmware. 2. Is Google planning to sell latest versions of dev phones in the near future? Thanks in advance, Evgeny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Petitions to Google
Hey guy, I still don't understand what is wrong on approach to separate Device/ SDK/etc specific functionality into separate project and during build time just make resulting application as specific set of modules for given combination od Device/SDK/etc? This works in java for years and still didn't found anything wrong on this approach. Why to make one class grimmy with preprocessor directives if I can have specific flavor of the class for SDK 1.6 and small screens another one for SDK 2.2? Have a good day Tom On 21 kvě, 17:08, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Uhm, aren't y'all barking up the wrong tree? If wanting conditional compilation in Java then petition Sun. XML wash/rinse, it's just a different standardization body. In case all that goes through (cough) it would no doubt make it over to Android as Google hasn't messed with the Java formula much. I guess it would be nice to have the cake and eat it too. For instance, to Leigh's point, it sucks having to go through wrapper classes and reflection to defeat code management just to implement calls to new-release classes of the SDK, when a simple [if (api_level = FROYO)] would solve the problem. OTOH, I take full advantage of the managed code approach and you guys should really try to get into it too. Polymorphisms like operator overloading is really helpful in cutting down on code replication, for example to implement complex numbers (classic example). There's plenty of reading that explains this so much better than I ever could. Tom is cracking me up though (don't take it personal). Design patterns (or rather, their ill advised use) are one of the reasons I got out of coding, to earn my income anyways. (Need to inject a footnote: design patterns are not design principles) I suppose there's plenty a pattern that don't accomplish much, like aforementioned factories. They sure add distraction. I basically had it when people started pontificating over design patterns at lunch just to see what stuck. The bottom was reached quickly, when noone really understood how a particular pattern solved a problem (guess what, it didn't). At that point, everybody stopped talking as the end of meaningful exchange was reached. So, now that the conversation had ceased, it was silently concluded by the overachieving evangelist-in- chief that design pattern X must be the way to go. Today of course, i'd just go sit at another table, although I have no such challenge with what I'm doing to earn a living now... On May 21, 7:06 am, Leigh McRae leigh.mc...@lonedwarfgames.com wrote: Hearing stuff like this makes me cringe. I uses to subscribe to the holy OOP stuff but no longer. I have found that the longer you program the better your become at knowing when to make the trade off for getting something done vs wasting time on looking for the most elegant, flexible, portable solution. Out in the real work when shipping in a timely manner is more important I don't see why a simple tool can't be added. It's just another tool for gods sakes, one that many experts have used and still use today to get things done. Why should I have to write interfaces or factory objects for something I know at compile time? Why do I need to write and maintain more code just so OOP purists can feel good about themselves? Why should I have to use runtime if statements and hope the compiler strips my code out? The Java way is to throw more hardware at it when it comes down to it and we are on a hardware limited platform. Leigh On 5/21/2010 5:50 AM, Tomáš Hubálek wrote: On 20 kvě, 16:12, Leigh McRaeleigh.mc...@lonedwarfgames.com wrote: On 5/19/2010 11:49 PM, Xavier Ducrohet wrote: First the OP didn't talk about using a preprocessor for xml. I would agree that that would be odd and there are better tools for that. Still a preprocessor could be used to conditionally include a resource by id. How about I give you some concrete examples and you can help me see the light? Example 1 //#if BETA if ( hasBetaExpired() ) System.exit( 0 ) //#endif Example 2 public final class Assert { public static final void RIP( final String msg ) { //#if BETA sendReport( msg ); //#endif System.exit( 0 ); }} Example 3 public class Debug { void Println( String msg ) { //#if !RELEASE Log.d( TAG, msg ); //#endif }} Example 4 //#if PLATFORM_BLACKBERRY
[android-developers] Re: G1 phone and update firmware 2.0-2.2 - question
Lets hope it is true. There were so many really-true rumors that I don't believe until HTC will have it on their pages. Tom On 21 kvě, 19:30, Evgeny V evgen...@gmail.com wrote: Found some article posted time ago.http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/every_android_smartphone_will_r... 2010/5/21 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Regarding first question: I'm also interested in. Regarding the second question I created similar thread but no response yet: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... Tom On 21 kvě, 14:00, EvgenyV evgen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, 1. Guys please suggest some official Google/HTC link with explanation why HTC G1 phone can't be updated to Adroid 2.0-2.2 firmware. 2. Is Google planning to sell latest versions of dev phones in the near future? Thanks in advance, Evgeny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: samsung app store
On 21 kvě, 16:50, Gabriel Simões gsim...@gmail.com wrote: Well, my opinion: - paid apps (for users) - The problems google have to be able to sell to any country, any store will have: laws! Apple took a lot of time to open an app store here in Brazil and still most of the apps aren´t available because the governament has a diferent age definition per category here, so most games aren´t publihed. There is 27 countries in European Union that have compatible law. Developers from only 6 of them can sell and users from about 7 can buy. This is strange, isn't? Why Google does not state clearly that this is law compatibility issue? - paid apps (for developers) - This sucks, and sucks hard! It´s something google needs to fix as soon as possible. Most users are on USA and Europe but developers are around the whole world and using ads to support our development is taking things to the limit already. Agree. - no trash apps (some form of quality standards) - Freedom vs. Closed systems. This is the discussion between app store and android market. I prefer open systems where anyone can publish anything. This way the comunity will show what is best and what is worst. Also, the ability to ask for a refund forces developers to make great apps in order to receive anything for them. If there´s someone to say if your app is good enough we will see the same old story again: rejected apps for no reason, long delays between releases In this case I do agree that android market should use a system to give emphasis to the best apps and start putting the crap ones on the lower parts of the search lists... Agree. Sometimes I'm curious why some app will less downloads and lower rating is at higher position. Not sure what is the algorithm for this and whether it is optimal. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
Once I saw today's IO 2010 keynote, I think this question starts even more important. Currently available Dev Phones are totally outdated. Tom On 14 kvě, 15:36, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm owner of ADP1 (1.6 device) but majority of my users have 2.x version. Does anybody have any idea whether there will be 2.x developer devices? Currently there is just something like HTC Hero available that is still IMHO 1.x device. Also I have one suggestion regarding pricing: Android Device Seeding program is over but Google could support developers while upgrading their dev phones according success of their apps (like 1 downloads with rating 50% discount, 25 downloads with rating * 100% discount etc). I believe that this can be small support to developers in countries where it is prohibited to sell apps (which is IMHO majority of the world) and they are doing good job for Android. I'm currently providing free apps (as I can't buy and sell on Android Market from my country) and to buy multiple phones to cover various flavors of Android is quite expensive hobby ;-) Have a good day Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
Nexus One is not (contrary to Dev phones) available in our country (Czech Republic, EU member!). And probably never will be... :-( Tom On May 21, 2010 12:58 AM, Eddie Ringle ed...@eringle.net wrote: I think the Nexus One counts as the current unofficial Android Developer Phone. (Unofficial in that it hasn't been given that title officially) On May 14, 9:36 am, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm owner of ADP1 (1... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Developing UI for Android apps
I'm using Eclipse with Android Plugin. Tom On 18 kvě, 08:25, warunsl waru...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, . I am new to Android programming and have tried writing a couple of apps myself. One thing i noticed is that my application was very poor wrt the UI and the design aspects. I want to know what tools/softwares are used for developing the UI for Android apps. . Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Android Dev Phone with 2.x?
Hello, I'm owner of ADP1 (1.6 device) but majority of my users have 2.x version. Does anybody have any idea whether there will be 2.x developer devices? Currently there is just something like HTC Hero available that is still IMHO 1.x device. Also I have one suggestion regarding pricing: Android Device Seeding program is over but Google could support developers while upgrading their dev phones according success of their apps (like 1 downloads with rating 50% discount, 25 downloads with rating * 100% discount etc). I believe that this can be small support to developers in countries where it is prohibited to sell apps (which is IMHO majority of the world) and they are doing good job for Android. I'm currently providing free apps (as I can't buy and sell on Android Market from my country) and to buy multiple phones to cover various flavors of Android is quite expensive hobby ;-) Have a good day Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: new interpreter for Android
I'm also not sure what is the advantage of such a language. I believe that Eclipse Development with full blown Java is more convenient. Tom On 12 kvě, 23:36, Andrei gml...@gmail.com wrote: I am writing pure Java interpreter for Android The language itself looks similar to JavaScript The goal is to be able to write majority of apps on the Market using scripts It is in Alpha stage The interpreter jar right now is 62 Kb If you are interested to see how it works, install apk from link below, it has examples of scripts and the src Long press entry to see it's source Please let me know what you think. Thanks http://gmlvsk.appspot.com/apk/IProgram.apk This is just one of the examples. It places 2 buttons on screen and changes text when you click them - var layout; var button1, button2; var cb1[], cb2[]; var counter1 = 0; var counter2 = 0; layout = LinearLayout.newObj(); layout.setMainView(); button1 = Button.newObj( button1 ); button2 = Button.newObj( button2 ); cb1[onClick] = { counter1++; button1.setText( clicked + counter1 + times );}; button1.setCallback( cb1 ); cb2[onClick] = { counter2++; button2.setText( clicked + counter2 + times );}; button2.setCallback( cb2 ); layout.addView( button1, LinearLayout.FILL, LinearLayout.WRAP ); layout.addView( button2, LinearLayout.FILL, LinearLayout.WRAP ); -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: To copy protect or not to copy protect!? That is the question!
That is some sweet information! I also hope the Android Market does something about it! Now I'm tracking the numbers using Motally to I think that Google HAVE to DO SOMETHING. From my point of view it would be good enough to provide API to be able programatically verify whether user uses legal copy (something like keyeslabs and/or slideme tryies to do unofficially) . Google could provide such a API. Have a good day Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: I've found a way to stop piracy of my apps
I believe that every DRM is something that IMHO Google HAVE to SOLVE. Every independent solution is just a hack that may stop working anytime Google wants. Sorry. Tom On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:22 AM, westmeadboy westmead...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: How about users who go from using a paid-app-country sim card to a non- paid-app-country sim card? In such a case, the app is no longer visible on the Market? I guess your answer to this would be its up to the developer to decide how to handle such a license check failure but in reality the user would demand that the app still works and so the dev would be pretty much forced on the issue: i.e. validate once straight after install and then future fails are allowed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google should prohibit task killers on Android Market
On 4 kvě, 01:06, Eric F ericfrie...@gmail.com wrote: The solution here is a change in attitude. I don't use a task killer on my phone, never have. And my phone sports good performance for weeks on end. Agree. I have task killer but use it really rarely. Obviously the solution isn't to eliminate task killers. One possible solution is to contact the authors of the most prominent task killers and get them to try to change their UI to highlight top resource consuming tasks as opposed to emphasizing the kill all button. When I look at Android Market I have a feeling that everybody wants to write it's own task killer while learning android programming ;-) (http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=killer). This I race I can't win. Another part of the puzzle is educating the iditions, and another part of the puzzle is to, as developers, use the APIs correctly. They can't kill your service if it's not running and is triggered by AlarmManager. I think that this is not true. I'm USING Alarm Service but my gadget still can be killed by task killers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google should prohibit task killers on Android Market
Dianne, thanks for answers. In fact one of the problems with the API that the task killers have been abusing is that it was there for the force stop button in the UI. This is not for killing processes. This is for making everything about the app stop: not just its processes and services, but removing its notifications, removing its alarms, EVERYTHING. This is exactly what I had in my mind. My widget has no chance to toast message Oh, it hurts, I was killed. Please don't do it next time. It just silently stops and looks like it does not work properly. To inform the user that widget was killed I have to develop detection mechanism (as writing this to documentation is not enough for many users). This is extra NON PRODUCTIVE work that every successful widget needs to do. This is why I'm asking for action from Google. This is why they have such a bad impact on well-behaved applications, and is something that really needs to be addressed in the platform (it is just not right for one application to do this kind of thing to another one). Thanks for your opinion. I have the same feeling. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps in more countries - I am sick about it
On 21 dub, 20:08, Lucian Tomuta lucian.tom...@gmail.com wrote: So why not go for Symbian then (well, actually for Nokia's Ovi Store as they support Java apps on Symbian but Series 40 devices as well). Certainly bigger market worldwide and you are welcome to set your price. IMHO Nokia is after zenith. They made some things in the past that make them not credible for me as a developer. Companies are companies, they tend to think at a bigger level/scale and yes, their plans don't necessarily match yours all the time. This is why you keep your options open and play all cards. Whether you like the OS or not that's not that relevant, especially when you write in Java anyway so you have one abstraction layer between you and the OS. What matters is the OS (or rather the phone product as a whole) that end-users buy and you therefore can target. The only question remains whether the code you may already have can be (at all) reused between Android and the other Java platforms. I'm new to Android and new to Java too so I can't really comment on this. Java in Symbian and Java in Android is something completely different. It needs a lot of effort to make nice app for Symbian in Java. For Android it is quite easy. What I'm really wondering is why Google does not allow people to buy and sell from any country? Do they want to give Android the feeling that everything is for free and attract more users? Do they prefer money from ads to commission from Android Marker? This can be IMHO taint of Android as I love AdSense on Web (as I consider it useful) but I HATE ads in SW. Google's approach to Android Market makes me crazy. I like Google and many their ideas but Android Market looks like something artificially retarded. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Alarm Clock Settings Invocation?
Hello, In may application I wan't to invoke Alarm Clock Settings. I'm doing it in naive way Intent intent = new Intent(); intent.setClassName(com.android.alarmclock, com.android.alarmclock.AlarmClock); startActivity(intent); This works in almost all phones. But I got a few exception reports with ActivityNotFoundException. I fixed it in the way that I'm catching ANFE and displaying message to user that Standard Android Alarm Clock is Not Presented. My questions are: - is there better way how to invoke Alarm Clock settings? - does anybody has any idea what roms don't contain standard AlarmClock and what to invoke instead? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Release Notes before application upgrade
Hello, I noticed that some applications (eg. Vignette) show release notes before updating to new version. This is BEFORE I click on Update button so it needs to be somewhere in application descriptor or somewhere, it is not in application code. Does anybody have any clue where to put such a information? Thanks Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Release Notes before application upgrade
In Android Developer Console? On May 4, 2010 8:09 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/4 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Does anybody have any clue where to put such a information? On a server? - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Release Notes before application upgrade
TreKing, you are fantastic. This is place where I didn't looked into. Thanks a lot Tom P.S. I wish Google did something with Android Marked. All alternative markets (AppBrain, Cyrket, AndroidZoom, ...) created by a few independent developers are in many points better than Google's. I don't understand it. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:42 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/4 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com Does anybody have any clue where to put such a information? I looked up the Vignette app you mentioned and I think I see what you mean. They have a long description of what's new at the bottom of their app description. It looks like they're taking advantage of the version string property, which is usually something like 1.5.6 but can be pretty much any string. Very clever actually and a good way to sneak in a few more words into the pathetic 325 character description we're stuck with on the market. - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- --- Tom Hubalek (tom.huba...@gmail.com), http://blog.hubalek.net/ http://facebook.com/thubalek, http://twitter.com/thubalek http://www.linkedin.com/in/thubalek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Best practices for creating multiple app versions from a single codebase?
I'm thinking about the same thing. I believe that http://code.google.com/p/maven-android-plugin/ could be a solution. Maven is very powerful tool for building (we are using it for JEE projects) so I'm sure that it will support also multiple APKs from one source code base. But I didn't looked into details yet. Tom On 4 kvě, 20:37, E.P eld...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any viable approaches for creating multiple .APKs out of a single codebase? The apps may share the same code, but they could have different manifest files, different resources, or different external libraries (for example in an app with both free and paid versions, the free version could have a library for display ads). Ideally, this would be a single Eclipse project, with a way to specify which app to build/debug, and possibly a command line way to batch build everything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google should prohibit task killers on Android Market
I think that cure can be the same approach as when battery is out of power. There is button Why? and it shows major consumers of the power. I think that Google could include in Android also some tool that shows major CPU Memory eaters. Users after this info will decide whether they want such a greedy apps or not. Tom On 4 kvě, 19:52, Eric F ericfrie...@gmail.com wrote: On May 3, 11:59 pm, mort m...@sto-helit.de wrote: And what's wrong with resource consuming? I coud cache several MB of data in a non-running service, it wouldn't matter. Android would just kick it if the memory's required, and the service would just reload the data when it's restarted. It's similar with CPU usage. If your service happens to do something in the instance the task killer loads it, it'll be killed, even if it only does that on certain events or once a day? And some services just need to do more than others... Besides, most task managers only show the main application, not the service. So CPU usage alway is 0, and memory usage, as said, doesn't really matter. I don't think it's necessarily right to say there's nothing wrong with consuming a huge amount of memory if you're sleeping, because the low memory killer can just remove you. It's been my experience that the user's experience on the phone is largely correlated with memory and not CPU usage. When I am flipping between activities, stuff feels significantly less responsive as I see the GC run. Also, obviously if an activity has dropped out of memory because of the low memory killer and it needs to be recreated there's going to be slowdown. So for some service that is sleeping, but still in memory consuming a large amount of RAM, you can only make the claim that it is harmless if it doesn't cause extra GC in the foreground apps and also doesn't cause a situation where some activity was killed by the low memory killer instead of the service. Which I don't think is a claim you can make about a resource intensive service that is just sleeping but not stopped. Maybe Dianne could comment on that, maybe I'm wrong. But it seems to me that you can't guarantee that more activities wouldn't be able to fit in memory if the service was actually gone. Also, I didn't know that the application stop caused alarmmanager to unschedule the app, that certainly makes the use of it almost certainly not what the user wants. Perhaps it needs to stay in the API to maintain compatibility, but it can cause a pop up with an extra disclaimer. Kind of like .apk installs can only be initiated and not completed without interaction with the platform. -E -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Google should prohibit task killers on Android Market
Hello, I'm on developer of Digital World Clock Widget (http:// www.appbrain.com/app/net.hubalek.android.worldclock). I'm receiving a few emails per week with complain that my widget stopped working. In all cases when we do investigation the cause is some kind of task killer. What is worse that not everybody contacts me by email bug gives bad rating even if my application is not working incorrectly. I made remedy: wrote it to documentation (http://android.hubalek.net), wrote it to application main screen and wrote it do application description but people either don't know what exactly task killers do and how they work or just don't read doc. I think that Google should prohibit all task killers as they are malicious and are breaking other apps. What do you think? Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en