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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued david_oliva wrote:stereotyping.About the stereotyping: It is true that after the first episode many of you thought it was happening.  I suppose I could have reacted like you did if I would be on your skin. I don't know. But perhaps one of our

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued 38. What it says about David's and the rest of the team's character is that they understand they have issues that need to be addressed. whether than releasing an incomplete product, they are going to go back and figure out where the mistakes

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued That makes a lot of sense, David. I didn't think there were any restrictions put on you guys.About the episodes and the story evolving, I assumed that was going to happen either way honestly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411962

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued David @57: You're welcome. But what part of me were you going to quote? You quoted me but there is nothing in the actual quote. Better still. No problem! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411985/#p411985 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued jack wrote:Jack: thanks a lot once more for supporting us, and because of taking part of your time to bring to the discussion things that we explained before. We really appreciate. We know we have a friend on you. URL: https

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Some of you wrote: stereotyping.About the stereotyping: It is true that after the first episode many of you thought it was happening.  I suppose I could have reacted like you did if I would be on your skin. I don't know. But perhaps one

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued wlomas wrote:i have to agree with the last poster here i think it has folded because they wanted the feedback to be positive and not at all negative.The project is on an Hiatus until we find the way to do it right, efficiently (without burning

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued JaceK wrote:Okay. So. My $0.02(...)David. It seems you had QA/beta testing and decided, for whatever reason, not to change the script at that point. Was that due to restrictions on the development or just a ddesire to finish up developing

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Juliantheaudiogamer wrote:Hi,Have to agree with Rashad and Redfox here. If devs aren't willing to accept help from the community, but rather discontinue the game, then it's not the community's fault.Also, I read through the original goldgun

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued connor142 wrote:@38 I highly doubt David had any say in the matter of discontinuation. From what I can gather, he was mainly the pr manager for the project. This means the decision to stop development didn't lie in his hands, at least

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued redfox wrote:(...)Maybe it's me not seeing far enough into the situation, but it looks like he got a lot of critisism and was like, ono! I can't deal with this, instead of working with the comunity, discontinued!If I'm incorrect in anyway

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hi!49, that's why I'm truly glad that they're taking their time to reach the quality they really want. As I said, my criticism was not to be negative, but to give them a point because they're stepping back to find new and better solutions

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued @Siria: I believe all that you're saying was probably already on the consideration list for the next episodes, as those were going to get a lot more involved. This should've been called the prologue if anything, but episode 0 should be a major

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued HiJaceK: I didn't mean to complain about the gestures used or the mecanics involved. but, there's a main difference between following people for a purpose or following people while they're talking about trivial matters, tilting a phone

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued siria wrote:Hi!I'm sorry to say this, but, in my opinion, taking a step back is the best thing the developers can do. I played the game and, onestly, it didn't seem a game at all, because there was no challenge. I know it was meant to be just

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued siria wrote:Hi!I'm sorry to say this, but, in my opinion, taking a step back is the best thing the developers can do. I played the game and, onestly, it didn't seem a game at all, because there was no challenge. I know it was meant to be just

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hi!I'm sorry to say this, but, in my opinion, taking a step back is the best thing the developers can do. I played the game and, onestly, it didn't seem a game at all, because there was no challenge. I know it was meant to be just a taste

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Ok. Who knows what they had to do or not do. The contract could've said that they had to stick to the initial script. Do some people not know how to read? The developer specifically stated that they were well aware of what they needed

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued @Rashad: but the holier than thou goes every which way though is what I was saying. Is it holier than thou to defend devs to the nth degree? Yes. Could it be holier than thou to have X viewpoint...depending on your perspective? Absolutely

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued @JaceK1, they themselves talk about asking a blindness related organisation for money under the condition that the script mentions blindness in some way, as I understand it. They were not told they had to include a thing about face touching.2

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued @38 I highly doubt David had any say in the matter of discontinuation. From what I can gather, he was mainly the pr manager for the project. This means the decision to stop development didn't lie in his hands, at least not entirely. URL

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hi,Have to agree with Rashad and Redfox here. If devs aren't willing to accept help from the community, but rather discontinue the game, then it's not the community's fault.Also, I read through the original goldgun released Topic again

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Okay. So. My $0.02Do we know for sure that X orgianization put restrictions on the script, or is that just wild assumptions and speculation? I also want to raise a point I've been mulling over.Dark said in the other topic that the character

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I really would love to help with either bvoice acting or sound design.Although I don't have a yeti, I can always mess with it to make it sound ok. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411691/#p411691 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued It really is a shame that this game is discontinued so fast, and it does kind of speak about David's character if he encountered some issues that a lot of us were more then willing to help, liam even said he'd help, for! free! Liam!Maybe it's

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Again, no one has called them names, or told them they were useless, or that their game is moronic, or other such noncess. we'd be having a different conversation if that was the case. People raised criticisms, that is all. If only one or two

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I'm going to take something that was said in a topic about Breakerbox. Most games are one-man bands. This project is not, but it's still a small company. There is no soulless bottom-line-driven corporation behind this project, so no need

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I'm going to take something that was said in a topic about Breakerbox. Most games are one-man bands. This project is not, but it's still a small company. There is no soulless bottom-line-driven corporation behind this project, so no need

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Come on, 33 and 34. Two things.1. Financial reasons also contributed to this project being put on hiatus.2. This is precisely the problem. You say people are harping on it more than they should've, yet you are still! harping about it. Do I

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Come on, 33 and 34. Two things.1. Financial reasons also contributed to this project being put on hiatus.2. This is precisely the problem. You say people are harping on it more than they should've, yet you are still! harping about it. Do I

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued i have to agree with the last poster here i think it has folded because they wanted the feedback to be positive and not at all negative. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411548/#p411548 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Personally, I didn't see any extremely negative criticism  written anywhere about the game. Yes, people harped on about the subpar sound quality and things a lot more then they likely should have, but no one was particularly mean about

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Juliantheaudiogamer wrote:And to SLJ: Dude, after that logic, if someone cooked something that tasted awful, but I myself couldn't cook, I couldn't tell the Person who cooked the meal because I would have to make it better.Exactly, that's my

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I think that's a great goal to strive for, but I think that may be a bit much given the size of our community. However, 1400 downloads in 10 days is definitely something to be proud of. There were a lot of critics, but then a lot of people

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I think that's a great goal to strive for, but I think that may be a bit much given the size of our community. However, 1400 downloads in 10 days is definitely something to be proud of. There were a lot of critics, but then a lot of people

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued jack wrote:Well, in fairness, the game actually had to fold also due to the financial burden )they said what they were hoping to create was getting expensive, and the high number of downloads seemed like the organization they got funding from

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Juliantheaudiogamer wrote:Hi,(...)  If the second Episode is written already, why don't you release it? (The fortune favors the bold or however that saying goes.)(...).there is a long way between the Script until the final game. A veeery long

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Julian, I'd steer clear of *intolerable* as the script-writer has indicated that no harm was intended, as was said by the audio engineer. He was the only blind person the scriptwriter had contacted, i.e he didn't research into it enough, so

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hi,I think you all Forget that there is a Major difference betweén mentioning blindness in a game (which would be no Problem for me) and outright stereotyping (which is not tolerable).What the People who gave harsh critics were probabbly

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued FYI, I do think they said something about the fact they are going to carry on anyway, so let's say their funding was wildly successful anyway , I would think the project would've gone on no problem. I think they kept wanting to find local

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Well, in fairness, the game actually had to fold also due to the financial burden )they said what they were hoping to create was getting expensive, and the high number of downloads seemed like the organization they got funding from

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued One of the reasons I never took the time to find out what this game was about is because I had a gut feeling the project would be scrapped eventually. It seems like a lot of developers are throwing in the towel nowadays because people don't

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued One of the reasons I never took the time to find out what this game was about is because I had a gut feeling the project would be scrapped eventually. It seems like a lot of developers are throwing in the towel nowadays because people don't

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued So sad to hear this. I heard Liam played it on YouTube, and it was pretty good. Sadly this won't work on my Android device. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411286/#p411286 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Greetings to all,I have no idea what the game is about for I haven't played it but one thing I can say. I agree with SLJ in saying that there's no point on harping on ssomething being bad if you don't have the guts to put forth your ideas even

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued So, to all of you who have said the sound design and voice acting in the game is bad: Now it's time to show how you can do it better. When you think it's that bad, you must help them with better sound design and voice acting. You must know how

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued David_Oliva wrote:Our main programmer Joshua was working on an update to fix some of the main bugs, specially for the Android. But I don't know about his motivation to publish it now once this decision was taken. He went now for well-deserved

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued @nolly That's exactly it, and I think that people were completely ignoring the fact that the developer clearly stated this was a pilot run and they were well aware of the problems that existed in the game.As for voice acting, you might want

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I'm often asked why I don't become involved in the blind community where I live. What happened here is one of the major reasons, soft skin and what I like to refer to as blind entitlement. The number of people I meet who carry a sighted people

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I'm often asked why I don't become involved in the blind community where I live. What happened here is one of the major reasons, soft skin and what I like to refer to as blind entitlement. The number of people I meet who carry a sighted people

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Dear friends. Thanks a lot for the self-criticism, and for the kind words you have shared now supporting us. We appreciate them, and they show to us that definitely we are welcome on this forum and around you. Don't worry. We are not quitting

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued that's a real shame, as stated, I saw some big production errors, but I feel like the game could've been amazing if you just put your mind to it.Sound quality, although it helps, isn't everything URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/48

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued jack wrote:I think it's fair to ask you this though. AS long as it holds no extra financial burden to do so, can you at least keep the original on the app stores so people can play for as long as the thing is still supported on their hardware

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Even more especially when the developer specifically states they are well aware of the script issues early on. No need for it to have been done to death like it was. If David is alright with it, if the app really is going on hiatus, I would

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Even more especially when the developer specifically states they are well aware of the script issues early on. No need for it to have been done to death like it was. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/411101/#p411101 -- Audiogames

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued There was promise in this game, and I really liked it for what it was. I agree with what others said here about people's comments. Sadly, I kinda figured that this would happen just because of the amount of criticism. I understand about

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued There was promise in this game, and I really liked it for what it was. I agree with what others said here about people's comments. Sadly, I kinda figured that this would happen just because of the amount of critic,$m. I understand about

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued You were flying like you are blind.god damn it! I knew I should've given him an eye test before he took off.God I remember that line, I wish that was still in the simulators. That concept build was hilarious.Anyway, Munawar is absolutely right

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I never downloaded or followed this game, but I do remember a time when TDV was under development and people got butt-hurt that we were using the word "blind" in it. I don't know what people got offended by here or what stereotypes

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued First of all I feel really sorry about that. I hate it that it had to come this far. You most definitely deserve better.I nevertheless want to come back to the criticism part. I think there are two lessons to be learned here.First

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hi.This is sad news indeed, but I'm glad you will work on the other games. I'm also glad that you don't take all the critics extremely offensive, because that's not really what people mean to do. I mean, people won't offend you personally

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued This is a dark moment for this community. One of the worst things we could have done. We go after each other all the time but when you look at things in the grand space of time, it really doesn't matter. What we did this time was probably

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I'm genuinely sorry to hear this. I'd really love for you to succeed. Please learn from what happened here so that your other games can succeed. That doesn't just mean reviewing the coding and development process, but I'm sure you have learned

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Sad news, but I'm glad to hear you guys are going to continue with other games! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/410993/#p410993 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I think it's fair to ask you this though. AS long as it holds no extra financial burden to do so, can you at least keep the original on the app stores so people can play for as long as the thing is still supported on their hardware? Some, like

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued As for the game, I know this is probably not the primary reason for tabling the project, but you folks who got offended need to realize how much an effect your words have on a developer, whether they have a thick skin or not. If they get

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Yeah, I would say it's quite unfortunate it had to go on hiatus for now. And I'm not going to suggest a free/no-cost solution someone suggested the r/record this for freesubreddit, and a lot of folks use fiver as it is, admittedly, a budget

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Re: Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued I am sorry to hear that. Stay proud of yourselves. After all, you made a difference by releasing a game. You made something all your own and so it may not have been anything original? You still made it.  As for offensive stereotypes, I didn’t

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Future of GoldGun: Production discontinued Hello dear friends.We have some news to share, but unfortunately this time they are bad for us, and specially very sad for me. I don't know if it is normal to open it like that, but I know some of you liked the project, so I wanted to open