Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-07 Thread Ian Mc Phee
--- > *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: > aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Ian Mc Phee > *Sent:* Thursday, 6 January 2011 12:13 PM > > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soarin

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-06 Thread bjones
ssion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Hello all! Once again, incorrect information needs to be corrected! Schleicher only applies spray painted markings which are sanded flash afterwards. They do not offer anything else. Kind rega

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-06 Thread Future Aviation
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of DMcD Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2011 9:58 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings I put vinyl stickers on a newly refinished glider and they mostly blew off in the post VNE Form

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-06 Thread DMcD
I put vinyl stickers on a newly refinished glider and they mostly blew off in the post VNE Form 2 evaluation flight! On new gliders from Germany, you get 3 choices in order of cost… Stickers, stencilled painted letters and computer-cut masked letters. The painted letters are done with such a thin

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-06 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Sorry Bernard and it is certainly not you I was thinking of and regret if people could have thought that. As you well realise makers of gliders offer flush comp letters as an extra option - guess the stick on things are OK if that is your choice but some people prefer flush painted letters which i

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-05 Thread Mark Goodley
If anyone needs stick on registration letters or numbers made up let me know can be done and posted on short notice Mark From: wommamuku...@bigpond.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:42 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings What a strange fellow

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-05 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
What a strange fellow is BE. - Original Message - From: Future Aviation To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Ian There are several pilots in the GFA with the i

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-05 Thread Future Aviation
Eckey _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2011 12:13 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings I know years ago a

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-05 Thread Ian Mc Phee
e tail markings 300mm high. > Tom > > --- On *Sun, 2/1/11, bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au < > bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au>* wrote: > > > From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Markings > To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > Received: Sunday, 2 Januar

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread tom claffey
WGC rules and a good guidline for visibility here. Tom --- On Sun, 2/1/11, Tim Shirley wrote: From: Tim Shirley Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" Received: Sunday, 2 January, 2011, 7:23 PM I have searched

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Jim Staniforth
There are a handful of RVs and a Harmon Rocket (highly modified RV-4) or two near home painted like that, with multiple stripes. Too much work! I doubt most of us would notice the difference between paint and sticker performance. There's more of a bump on most spoiler caps. Choose the right f

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 01:32 PM 3/01/2011, you wrote: It's all personal preference. If you're a competition or high performance nut - then you'll paint them on for better performance. Or if you just want to go flying, and potentially sell off your glider semi-soon, then just slap some stickers on the glider. W

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Adam Woolley
riginal Message- From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:46 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Thanks all for the replies - though I've read CASR part 45 and guidance note, plus AN84, I can't find the bit about paint vers

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread bcoleman
Thanks all for the replies - though I've read CASR part 45 and guidance note, plus AN84, I can't find the bit about paint versus stickers?! (actually stickers sound great if underwing markings are not required!) Cheers, Ben *

[Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread John Trezise
For us operators, I really think it is quite simple ... just do what the GFA requires (ie observe the requirements of AN84) and if there are issues between the GFA and CASA, let them sort them out. AN84 Issue 2 was released on 7th April, 1998 and the pre-amble states ..."The confusing matter o

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread stephenk
I was going to comment on AN84 in my previous email but decided against it as it would have muddied the situation. AN84 (like all ANs) is a guideline and advisory only. It came about as GFA (were forced?) to issue an AD requiring full rego markings on all aircraft*. I am

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Matthew Gage
I believe that GFA AN84 is an agreed set of differences / exemptions from the existing part 45. The proposed new part 45 as mentioned by Wombat actually includes all of these and goes further - removing the need for under wing markings and halving the minimum height of the vertical markings. I

[Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread John Trezise
I just have not seen any reference yet to GFA AN84 which details the requirements. This is downloadable from the GFA website /Airworthiness John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings - new changes proposed by CASA

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Cleaver
ng to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings from 45.085 (2) The markings: (a) must be legible; and (b) must have no ornamentation; and (c) must be of a colour that clearly contrasts with their backg

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread stephenk
from 45.085 (2) The markings: (a) must be legible; and (b) must have no ornamentation; and (c) must be of a colour that clearly contrasts with their background. Any colour would

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:30 PM 2/01/2011, you wrote: Try CASR part 45. Also I dont know if GFA still has an exemption but this would seem to make comp numbers or letters a non compliance and certainly those gliders who use the last two letters of a registration such as LTY and omit the L are not in compliance.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Doig
Try http://2009.gfa.org.au/Docs/ops/mosp2.pdf 14.2.3. Positions and dimensions of registration markings Cheers Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:30:59 + From: resand...@gmail.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Try CASR part 45. Also I dont know if

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Ron Sanders
t] *On Behalf Of *tom claffey > *Sent:* Sunday, 2 January 2011 17:41 > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings > > > > Stickers are easy, > For a comp you should have tail markings 300mm high. > Tom > >

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-02 Thread Tim Shirley
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2011 17:41 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings Stickers are easy, For a comp you should have tail markings 300mm high. Tom --- On Sun, 2/1/11, bcole

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-01 Thread tom claffey
Stickers are easy, For a comp you should have tail markings 300mm high. Tom --- On Sun, 2/1/11, bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au wrote: From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au Subject: [Aus-soaring] Markings To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Received: Sunday, 2 January, 2011, 10:09 AM Hi all, I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-01 Thread Mike Borgelt
Use vinyl stickers. There are plenty of places that will cut them for you. Look up the CASA regs on line. There used to be an explanatory document too. The rego doesn't have to be very big nowadays and now that we don't need to recognise gliders from the ground in contests there's not much p

[Aus-soaring] Markings

2011-01-01 Thread bcoleman
Hi all, I need to put new markings on a glider. What is the norm these days - stickers or paint? Thanks, Ben ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual

Re: [Aus-soaring] markings

2009-11-24 Thread Wayne Carter
Welcome Bob, I believe part of the answer is that any inconsistencies to the smoothness of the high pressure (underside) of the wing will be highly detrimental to its efficiency. The solar panels you speak of are usually placed on an engine hatch or behind the pilot on the fuse, a low-pressure ar