Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Liz, I just saw this post as I was gone all day helping with an Estate
Sale. I think that all they are saying is that they are ignorant of the
first name. You don't say who the ignorata is, the father, mother, woman,
who??
Post the URL so we can see what you are talking about.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Hello
> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is
> unknown.
>
> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>
> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>
> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Liz Migliori]

Oh. That’s what that means.  Ignored
I know of their mistakes.  I fight it all the time. I was just really curious 
as their one “ignored” had a last name.  Lolol

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> On Sep 14, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Liz, OK, if you want to go with it, then go right ahead. The CITCEM was 
> created by humans (sociology students) and many genealogy researchers have 
> reported many errors. I'm sure no one would name their daughter "Ignored."
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 12:22 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>> Hi Cheri
>> I just tried to research and I got the Ignorada from the Citcem.  Uminho site
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without seeing the record, we don't know what you are looking at. It's most 
>>> likely Ignacia.
>>> 
 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
 I can
 
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:
> Hello
> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is 
> unknown.  
> 
> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
> 
> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
> 
> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Cheri Mello]

Liz, OK, if you want to go with it, then go right ahead. The CITCEM was
created by humans (sociology students) and many genealogy researchers have
reported many errors. I'm sure no one would name their daughter "Ignored."
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 12:22 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Hi Cheri
> I just tried to research and I got the Ignorada from the Citcem.  Uminho
> site
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Without seeing the record, we don't know what you are looking at. It's
> most likely Ignacia.
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I can
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is
>>> unknown.
>>>
>>> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>>>
>>> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Liz Migliori]

Hi Cheri
I just tried to research and I got the Ignorada from the Citcem.  Uminho site


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Without seeing the record, we don't know what you are looking at. It's most 
> likely Ignacia.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> I can
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is unknown. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>>> 
>>> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>>> 
>>> Liz
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Liz Migliori]

Oh really??? Ok I’ll go back and pull up. 
Never thought of that

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Without seeing the record, we don't know what you are looking at. It's most 
> likely Ignacia.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> I can
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is unknown. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>>> 
>>> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>>> 
>>> Liz
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Cheri Mello]

Without seeing the record, we don't know what you are looking at. It's most
likely Ignacia.

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I can
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is
>> unknown.
>>
>> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>>
>> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>>
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Cheri Mello]

I can

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Hello
> I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is
> unknown.
>
> I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??
>
> So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?
>
> Liz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name Question

[Liz Migliori]

Hello
I thought that when you see “Ignorada” it meant that the person is unknown.  

I just saw Ignorada with a last name of Alvernas.  ??

So what does Ignorada mean?  Is it a first name ?

Liz

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I had to go back and correct over 2000 names several years ago. Today I am up 
to 8200. It took me several weeks to make corrections but eventually, I had it 
done.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 1:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Thanks Rick.   So many things I should have paid closer attention to when I 
first started using my genealogy program.

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:16 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Something else I thought of this morning is that if you have a person like 
“Maria de Jesus” and no last name you enter “Maria de Jesus   
\\”  the program would then leave the last name blank otherwise it would 
arbitrarily assign “Jesus” as the last name. You can try entering names in 
different ways and then check on how everything sorts when you do a search.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program 
asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does 
the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't 
work that way in all countries. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

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Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks Rick.   So many things I should have paid closer attention to when I 
first started using my genealogy program.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:16 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Something else I thought of this morning is that if you have a person like 
“Maria de Jesus” and no last name you enter “Maria de Jesus \\”  the program 
would then leave the last name blank otherwise it would arbitrarily assign 
“Jesus” as the last name. You can try entering names in different ways and then 
check on how everything sorts when you do a search.

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH




From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program 
asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does 
the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't 
work that way in all countries. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 
 
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
 
Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 
 
Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
 
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Messages crossed in ciber space.  LOL!

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 5:48 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam, maybe you missed Rick's response. You put backslashes around the \surname\.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field with 
one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely possible, 
to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree users out 
there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you sharing.
 
Thanks,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
 
Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 
 
Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
 
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, that's too bad! Maybe you need to do the name as Richard says with the
/Sousa/ around the 'Surname'? That's what we used to have to do with PAF.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field
> with one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely
> possible, to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree
> users out there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you
> sharing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Cheri Mello]

Sam, maybe you missed Rick's response. You put backslashes around the
\surname\.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field
> with one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely
> possible, to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree
> users out there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you
> sharing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Rick and Cheri;  Thanks so much for this info.  Now that you’ve said it, I 
recall having read that before.  If only I had been intelligent enough to do it 
that way!  Now, I have some 5,000 plus names, with a large percentage being 
Portuguese and I will have to go back and add the back-slashes. Oh, dear!  
Something to keep me busy, I guess!

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 5:07 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field with 
one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely possible, 
to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree users out 
there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you sharing.

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Cheri Mello]

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that
program asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for
Name and does the American thing of assuming the very last name is the
surname. It doesn't work that way in all countries.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name
> is much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it
> prints out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to
> use I think back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da
> Gloria de \Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name *
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

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 wrote:

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
does the same?

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


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> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

Thanks all,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name and relationship of godparents to the baptized

[Maria Lima]

Ooh, I just saw that it says '"and avo"! Sorry, it was so clear after I 
figured it out.   Is his last name vasconcelos(?) and is his daughter Anna  de 
Sao Joseph?

Top left fifth line from bottom

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1668-1708/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1668-1708_item1/P81.html

Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name and relationship of godparents to the baptized

[Maria Lima]

TOP LEFT, 5th line from the bottom

Does it say The Godfather is Manoel Ferreira de Vasconcelos, married, brother 
of the baptized and Anna de Sao Joseph (??) daughter of the godfather .  (?). 

Maybe it does say he was the brother(?)

Thank you for looking at this and helping me.  


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1668-1708/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1668-1708_item1/P81.html

Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[nancy jean baptiste]

Indeed, one discovery leads to more paths to explore!

Nancy

From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Judy 
Thompson 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:38 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

It was Joao Brum Santos Macedo, which is the name shown as father on my 
grandfather's birth record.  The change was to Joao Brum.  The Santos was not 
used by his ancestors but was for at least 2 of his children.   Now I'm 
wondering if that note is on all his children's records.  Always something more 
to do!

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 7:33:29 AM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste wrote:
Judy,

Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?

Thanks,
Nancy Jean

From: 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:03 PM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made a 
mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he needed 
to mend this and went to Court.

An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
birth record.

João

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
 wrote:


On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed his 
name 22 years later?

Judy T.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[Liz Migliori]

Funny,  my mothers last name was Santa. They put Santos on her birth so I had 
it changed to Santa.   I can’t find where it started for sure because it was a 
nickname.  No Santa Portuguese.  Last name was supposed to be Silveira

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> On Dec 30, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
> 
> It was Joao Brum Santos Macedo, which is the name shown as father on my 
> grandfather's birth record.  The change was to Joao Brum.  The Santos was not 
> used by his ancestors but was for at least 2 of his children.   Now I'm 
> wondering if that note is on all his children's records.  Always something 
> more to do!
> 
>> On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 7:33:29 AM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste 
>> wrote:
>> Judy,
>> 
>> Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Nancy Jean
>> From: 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:03 PM
>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change
>>  
>> This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made 
>> a mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he 
>> needed to mend this and went to Court. 
>> 
>> An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
>> birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
>> paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
>> birth record.
>> 
>> João
>> 
>> On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
>> father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
>> Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
>> Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed 
>> his name 22 years later?
>> 
>> Judy T.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[Judy Thompson]

It was Joao Brum Santos Macedo, which is the name shown as father on my 
grandfather's birth record.  The change was to Joao Brum.  The Santos was 
not used by his ancestors but was for at least 2 of his children.   Now I'm 
wondering if that note is on all his children's records.  Always something 
more to do!

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 7:33:29 AM UTC-8, nancy jean baptiste 
wrote:

> Judy,
>
> Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy Jean
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> *From:* 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy  >
> *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2018 9:03 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change 
>  
> This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest 
> made a mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. 
> Later he needed to mend this and went to Court. 
>
> An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my 
> father's birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who 
> actually is his paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would 
> need to mend his birth record.
>
> João
>
> On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson <
> judy...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that 
> his father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of 
> Lajes, Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
> Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed 
> his name 22 years later?
>
> Judy T.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[Liz Migliori]

Perhaps just to make it right
I had my mother’s name corrected on her birth certificate.

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> On Dec 28, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
> 
> On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
> father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
> Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
> Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed his 
> name 22 years later?
> 
> Judy T.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[nancy jean baptiste]

Judy,

Just curious what his name was and what they changed it to?

Thanks,
Nancy Jean

From: 'joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:03 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made a 
mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he needed 
to mend this and went to Court.

An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
birth record.

João

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
 wrote:


On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of Lajes, 
Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed his 
name 22 years later?

Judy T.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

['joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy]

 This is the first time I have seen this. It is possible that the priest made a 
mistake when writing that record and changed the father's name. Later he needed 
to mend this and went to Court. 

An example: my paternal grandmother is Emília Cândida Gaspar. On my father's 
birth record his mother is listed as Maria da Conceição, who actually is his 
paternal grandmother. If this would be an issue, we would need to mend his 
birth record.
João

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 1:58:52 AM GMT-1, Judy Thompson 
 wrote:  
 
 On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that his 
father's name was changed  "according to thesentence of the Court of Lajes, 
Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to 
why they would have changed his name 22 years later?
Judy T.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name Change

[Judy Thompson]

On my grandfather's birth record there is a margin note that states that 
his father's name was changed  "according to the sentence of the Court of 
Lajes, Pico Island, on 4 December 1943."
Since his father died in 1921, any clue as to why they would have changed 
his name 22 years later?

Judy T.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

Top left baptism 

Looks like Jlena (?).Thanks for taking a look.   It's daughter of Antonio 
Carvalho and Maria de Incarnação.   


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1761-1776/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1761-1776_item1/P109.html
Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Maria Lima]

I haven't tried the Index.  I'm going to look for more children and look for 
either OLIVEIRA or da Vida.  I can now see it could be De OLIVEIRA (now that 
you told me.). 

Maria Elena 

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:18 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Here she is, Francisca, born- Sept 27- 1730, bap- Oct 1- 1730, filha de 
> Manoel de Payva nat. NS da Estrella, Ribeira Grande and Maria da Vida 
> (presumably same Maria de Oliveira)  nat. de Matriz de Cidade, Pad- Francisco 
> da Costa, pedreiro, cazado desta freg.
> 
> page 3, bottom record
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736_item1/P4.html
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 7:50:25 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>> I see Maria de Almeida.   Shirley in CA
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Maria Lima
>> To: AZORES
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:34 PM
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure
>> 
>> Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:
>> 
>> Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
>> looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
>> can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just 
>> need to keep looking)
>> 
>> Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
>> ALMEIDA (?) or something else??
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.  
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Maria Lima]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.  I had not gotten to that year yet, but even if I had- I 
would totally have missed it because I would never have figured out the 
mother's last name as da Vida.Thank you many times.  

What a GREAT GROUP ON THIS LIST.  Love you!!  

Maria Elena 

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:18 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Here she is, Francisca, born- Sept 27- 1730, bap- Oct 1- 1730, filha de 
> Manoel de Payva nat. NS da Estrella, Ribeira Grande and Maria da Vida 
> (presumably same Maria de Oliveira)  nat. de Matriz de Cidade, Pad- Francisco 
> da Costa, pedreiro, cazado desta freg.
> 
> page 3, bottom record
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736_item1/P4.html
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 7:50:25 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>> I see Maria de Almeida.   Shirley in CA
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Maria Lima
>> To: AZORES
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:34 PM
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure
>> 
>> Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:
>> 
>> Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
>> looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
>> can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just 
>> need to keep looking)
>> 
>> Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
>> ALMEIDA (?) or something else??
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.  
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[JR]

Here she is, Francisca, born- Sept 27- 1730, bap- Oct 1- 1730, filha de 
Manoel de Payva nat. NS da Estrella, Ribeira Grande and Maria da Vida 
(presumably same Maria de Oliveira)  nat. de Matriz de Cidade, Pad- 
Francisco da Costa, pedreiro, cazado desta freg.

page 3, bottom record
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1730-1736_item1/P4.html

JR

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 7:50:25 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote:
>
> I see Maria de Almeida.   Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Maria Lima  
> *To:* AZORES  
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:34 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure
>
> Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:
>
> Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
> looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
> can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just 
> need to keep looking)
>
> Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
> ALMEIDA (?) or something else??
>
> Thanks for your help.  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html
>
> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Shirley Allegre]

I see Maria de Almeida.   Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Lima 
  To: AZORES 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:34 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure


  Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:


  Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just need 
to keep looking)


  Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
ALMEIDA (?) or something else??


  Thanks for your help.  


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html

  Maria Elena 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Manuel de Paiva and his wife Maria de Oliveira

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lima
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:34 PM
To: AZORES
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

 

Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:

 

Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just need 
to keep looking)

 

Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
ALMEIDA (?) or something else??

 

Thanks for your help.  

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html

Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Maria Lima]

Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:

Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just need 
to keep looking)

Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
ALMEIDA (?) or something else??

Thanks for your help.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html

Maria Elena 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Ok I found the right  Jose born in Nordistinho the  name is Maria Pacheco. I 
then found a grandchild to verify the name.  So Cheri you get an “atta girl” 
for guessing too much vinho.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:47 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 
1839

 

Too much vinho :)




Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Gonçalo Marques <gjmmarq...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Ah! Sorry :)

I think the priest made a mistake and wrote "Maria Maria"

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f" in the 
line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques <gjmmarq...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.

Cheers

Gonçalo

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this record: 
Page 22 front side (right side of image) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
 

I have everything else. Thanks.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am afraid I am going to have to go to Sao Pedro records and look for a birth 
of a Jose or perhaps the parents’ marriage. L Thanks for trying.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:47 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 
1839

 

Too much vinho :)




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Gonçalo Marques <gjmmarq...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Ah! Sorry :)

I think the priest made a mistake and wrote "Maria Maria"

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f" in the 
line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques <gjmmarq...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.

Cheers

Gonçalo

 

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
<rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this record: 
Page 22 front side (right side of image) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
 

I have everything else. Thanks.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Cheri Mello]

Too much vinho :)

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Gonçalo Marques 
wrote:

>
> Ah! Sorry :)
>
> I think the priest made a mistake and wrote "Maria Maria"
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f"
>> in the line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Gonçalo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
 *I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this
 record: Page 22 front side (right side of image)
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
 
 *

 *I have everything else. Thanks.*



 *Rick*

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*



 *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
 Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Gonçalo Marques]

Ah! Sorry :)

I think the priest made a mistake and wrote "Maria Maria"

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f"
> in the line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Gonçalo
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> *I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this
>>> record: Page 22 front side (right side of image)
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
>>> 
>>> *
>>>
>>> *I have everything else. Thanks.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>
>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I looked and couldn't figure it out. It looks like Maria something starting
with the same letter.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f"
> in the line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Gonçalo
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> *I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this
>>> record: Page 22 front side (right side of image)
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
>>> 
>>> *
>>>
>>> *I have everything else. Thanks.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>
>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Cheri Mello]

He needs the MOTHER of Jose de Medeiros. It's a Maria Something. The "f" in
the line above her name is messing with her 2nd name.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Gonçalo Marques 
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>
> The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.
>
> Cheers
> Gonçalo
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> *I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this
>> record: Page 22 front side (right side of image)
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
>> 
>> *
>>
>> *I have everything else. Thanks.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Epping, NH*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Gonçalo Marques]

The name of the groom seems to me José de Medeiros.

Cheers
Gonçalo


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this
> record: Page 22 front side (right side of image)
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html
> 
> *
>
> *I have everything else. Thanks.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Grooms Mother Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel 1839

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am having difficulty reading the mothers name of the groom on this record:
Page 22 front side (right side of image)
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-183
6-1860/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1836-1860_item1/P26.html 

I have everything else. Thanks.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NAME OF MATRIX IN SAO JORGE

[Maria Lima]

Thank you so much- I was stumped!  Yay!  

Maria Elena 

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Kawika322  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria,
> 
> It is the Parish of Sao Tiago, which is in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
> 
> David 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NAME OF MATRIX IN SAO JORGE

[Kawika322]

Hi Maria,

It is the Parish of Sao Tiago, which is in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NAME OF MATRIX IN SAO JORGE

[Maria Lima]

Left hand page, 6th line from bottom going up.

Can someone please help me decipher the name of the parish?? 

It says the name of the parish for Antonio Francisco was the Matrix of Sao 
Rego(??) on the island of Sao Jorge.

I looked up and didn't see anything that resembled that.  Maybe it's name 
changed ?  Maybe I'm not reading it correctly?

Thanks for looking at it




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1841-1853/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1841-1853_item1/P10.html

Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of street in Vila Franca do Campo where great grandparents lived

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

This is the link to my great grandparents address in Vila Franca do Campo, 
Sao Miguel, Azores:  Right hand side, birth of Bernardina #39:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1895-1899_item1/P21.html

5TH LINE FROM BOTTOM



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

No, she was from Terceira in the 1580’s+-.  Grasping at straws here.

Thanks anyway,

Sam (Camas, WA)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:50 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

No, was she in Vila Franca do Campo in the late 1600s/early 1700s?


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On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Cheri;  By chance, do you have a Juliana Pires do Couto in your tree?
 
Sam (Camas, WA)
 
From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:40 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)
 
Yeah, I read that Bernarda & her husband were born in the Sao Miguel Arcanjo 
church of Vila Franca and had done Lent there.
I have Bernarda's parents marriage in SMA. I don't have the generation back. So 
Bernarda's grandparents going on back. I think I did the work way back in the 
early 2000s. I think I was at the Biblioteca using Canto's indices. I know I 
have some notes somewhere, as the stuff in the computer is kinda incomplete.  
Cheri


Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Those were my notes, which I left in the post. Essentially, the betrothed 
(contrahente) were both baptized (and disobligated) in Matriz de Vila Franca.
 
Will send more info privately.
 
JR
 
I also have the marriage of  parents. They married in SMVF, 

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:33:12 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
JR, I had some time before the meeting at the nursing home, so I was looking 
for misspelled names and was kinda cleaning up my database a bit. I saw 
"Barnarda" with a baptism date and no marriage. No digital image, so I went to 
retrieve it. When I saw it, I questioned if it was a Bernarda or not. I don't 
know if it was my work or Shirley's. It was some of our early work though as it 
wasn't sourced.
I don't know what you mean by your abbreviations and "contractors." 
I descend from Bernarda's brother, Pedro de Couto. I had a little bit of time 
and was fixing typos. That's how I ran across Bernarda. Thanks for the marriage 
info, I didn't have it. Don't know where she picks up Medeiros from. I have her 
parents' marriage but not her grandparents.
Cheri


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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Cheri Mello]

No, was she in Vila Franca do Campo in the late 1600s/early 1700s?

Cheri Mello
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Cheri;  By chance, do you have a Juliana Pires do Couto in your tree?
>
>
>
> Sam (Camas, WA)
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:40 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo,
> 1697)
>
>
>
> Yeah, I read that Bernarda & her husband were born in the Sao Miguel
> Arcanjo church of Vila Franca and had done Lent there.
>
> I have Bernarda's parents marriage in SMA. I don't have the generation
> back. So Bernarda's grandparents going on back. I think I did the work way
> back in the early 2000s. I think I was at the Biblioteca using Canto's
> indices. I know I have some notes somewhere, as the stuff in the computer
> is kinda incomplete.  Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Those were my notes, which I left in the post. Essentially, the betrothed
> (contrahente) were both baptized (and disobligated) in Matriz de Vila
> Franca.
>
>
>
> Will send more info privately.
>
>
>
> JR
>
>
>
> I also have the marriage of  parents. They married in SMVF,
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:33:12 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> JR, I had some time before the meeting at the nursing home, so I was
> looking for misspelled names and was kinda cleaning up my database a bit. I
> saw "Barnarda" with a baptism date and no marriage. No digital image, so I
> went to retrieve it. When I saw it, I questioned if it was a Bernarda or
> not. I don't know if it was my work or Shirley's. It was some of our early
> work though as it wasn't sourced.
>
> I don't know what you mean by your abbreviations and "contractors."
>
> I descend from Bernarda's brother, Pedro de Couto. I had a little bit of
> time and was fixing typos. That's how I ran across Bernarda. Thanks for the
> marriage info, I didn't have it. Don't know where she picks up Medeiros
> from. I have her parents' marriage but not her grandparents.
>
> Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Cheri;  By chance, do you have a Juliana Pires do Couto in your tree?

Sam (Camas, WA)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:40 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

Yeah, I read that Bernarda & her husband were born in the Sao Miguel Arcanjo 
church of Vila Franca and had done Lent there.
I have Bernarda's parents marriage in SMA. I don't have the generation back. So 
Bernarda's grandparents going on back. I think I did the work way back in the 
early 2000s. I think I was at the Biblioteca using Canto's indices. I know I 
have some notes somewhere, as the stuff in the computer is kinda incomplete.  
Cheri


Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Those were my notes, which I left in the post. Essentially, the betrothed 
(contrahente) were both baptized (and disobligated) in Matriz de Vila Franca.

Will send more info privately.

JR

I also have the marriage of  parents. They married in SMVF, 

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:33:12 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
JR, I had some time before the meeting at the nursing home, so I was looking 
for misspelled names and was kinda cleaning up my database a bit. I saw 
"Barnarda" with a baptism date and no marriage. No digital image, so I went to 
retrieve it. When I saw it, I questioned if it was a Bernarda or not. I don't 
know if it was my work or Shirley's. It was some of our early work though as it 
wasn't sourced.
I don't know what you mean by your abbreviations and "contractors." 
I descend from Bernarda's brother, Pedro de Couto. I had a little bit of time 
and was fixing typos. That's how I ran across Bernarda. Thanks for the marriage 
info, I didn't have it. Don't know where she picks up Medeiros from. I have her 
parents' marriage but not her grandparents.
Cheri


Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Cheri Mello]

Shirley A, that's part of the Manuel do Couto Marvao & Maria de Ares
family. Copy what JR posted about Bernarda's marriage. He said he was going
to send more information privately. Maybe he will copy both of us since we
both have Manuel do Couto Marvao & Maria de Aires in our tree.  Cheri

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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net>
wrote:

> Looks like BERNARDA to me.
> Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Azores Genealogy <Azores@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:32 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)
>
> Top left, name the baby girl:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Shirley Allegre]

Looks like BERNARDA to me.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:32 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)


  Top left, name the baby girl:
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[JR]

Those were my notes, which I left in the post. Essentially, the betrothed 
(contrahente) were both baptized (and disobligated) in Matriz de Vila 
Franca.

Will send more info privately.

JR

I also have the marriage of  parents. They married in SMVF, 
On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:33:12 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> JR, I had some time before the meeting at the nursing home, so I was 
> looking for misspelled names and was kinda cleaning up my database a bit. I 
> saw "Barnarda" with a baptism date and no marriage. No digital image, so I 
> went to retrieve it. When I saw it, I questioned if it was a Bernarda or 
> not. I don't know if it was my work or Shirley's. It was some of our early 
> work though as it wasn't sourced.
>
> I don't know what you mean by your abbreviations and "contractors." 
>
> I descend from Bernarda's brother, Pedro de Couto. I had a little bit of 
> time and was fixing typos. That's how I ran across Bernarda. Thanks for the 
> marriage info, I didn't have it. Don't know where she picks up Medeiros 
> from. I have her parents' marriage but not her grandparents.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Cheri Mello]

JR, I had some time before the meeting at the nursing home, so I was
looking for misspelled names and was kinda cleaning up my database a bit. I
saw "Barnarda" with a baptism date and no marriage. No digital image, so I
went to retrieve it. When I saw it, I questioned if it was a Bernarda or
not. I don't know if it was my work or Shirley's. It was some of our early
work though as it wasn't sourced.

I don't know what you mean by your abbreviations and "contractors."

I descend from Bernarda's brother, Pedro de Couto. I had a little bit of
time and was fixing typos. That's how I ran across Bernarda. Thanks for the
marriage info, I didn't have it. Don't know where she picks up Medeiros
from. I have her parents' marriage but not her grandparents.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[JR]

Sorry, guys, I have her married to Jose Botelho Veloso as Bernarda de 
Medeiros, SMVF, May 10- 1723.  If you look at body of text, you can see the 
stylized 'n' as part of Bernarda. The margin name is misleading as priest 
tried to repair a 't' that he had inadvertently written. But I was also 
fooled until I studied the the text and then looked for the parents.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P130.html

Both bap and contrahentes VFSM

Cheri, is this your ancestry? Or is it Shirely's?


JR

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:44:58 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'm stuck between the two. Maybe she's a Gernarda! LOL
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:16 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Looks like Gertruda to me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Cheri Mello  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Top left, name the baby girl:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, I'm stuck between the two. Maybe she's a Gernarda! LOL

Cheri Mello
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On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:16 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Looks like Gertruda to me.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Top left, name the baby girl:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Looks like Gertruda to me.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Top left, name the baby girl:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
> Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

[Cheri Mello]

Top left, name the baby girl:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jeremy, I'm used to this priest and it's Joao. If you look a little further
a couple of pages you will see his writing of Joseph and see how he writes
his "J". Barb is looking at the second up from the bottom not the bottom
name which is Bras.

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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:44 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than
> Joao. You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is
> clear as day at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where
> you can distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Cheri Mello]

Bras is the bottom record. Barb is looking at Joao, 2nd from the bottom.

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> The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than
> Joao. You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is
> clear as day at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where
> you can distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

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The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than Joao. 
You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is clear as day 
at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where you can 
distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yep, it's always a joy when you get a priest that loves to embelish all of
the letters and then  puts that tail on the end that goes up instead of
down!! Oh yes and you have the bleed over from the next page to deal with
too! LOL

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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yeah, Joao. I went a page or 2 ahead and found a Joseph. His Js are weird.
> On May 3, 2017 10:09 PM, "Rosemarie Capodicci"  wrote:
>
>> Barb,
>> Don't you just love all of his curly cues! I really think it's just Joao
>> though.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
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>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Barb Davis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the
>>> record that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record
>>> for Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help
>>> would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
>>> RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, Joao. I went a page or 2 ahead and found a Joseph. His Js are weird.
On May 3, 2017 10:09 PM, "Rosemarie Capodicci"  wrote:

> Barb,
> Don't you just love all of his curly cues! I really think it's just Joao
> though.
>
>
> Rosemarie
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Barb Davis  wrote:
>
>> Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the
>> record that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record
>> for Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help
>> would be appreciated!
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
>> RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Barb,
Don't you just love all of his curly cues! I really think it's just Joao
though.


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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Barb Davis  wrote:

> Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the
> record that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record
> for Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help
> would be appreciated!
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name translation, please.

[Cheri Mello]

No, it says that the godparents, Manuel Furtado and his sister Catarina?
Furtada something children of Miguel Furtado and of his wife Something
Frade??

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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:

> Manoel Furtado e sua irmam (irmã) Catarina or Catalina Furtada
>
> 2017-05-04 0:01 GMT+01:00 Sme :
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-
>> GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P113.html
>>
>> Matheos, top left.
>>
>> What is the name of the parents of the godparents?   Miguel Furtado and
>> his wife ???
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name translation, please.

[Ângela Loura]

Manoel Furtado e sua irmam (irmã) Catarina or Catalina Furtada

2017-05-04 0:01 GMT+01:00 Sme :

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-
> SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P113.html
>
> Matheos, top left.
>
> What is the name of the parents of the godparents?   Miguel Furtado and
> his wife ???
>
> Thank you.
> Suzanne
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[AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Barb Davis]

Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the record 
that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record for 
Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help 
would be appreciated!

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html

Thanks!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name translation, please.

[Sme]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P113.html

Matheos, top left.

What is the name of the parents of the godparents?   Miguel Furtado and his
wife ???

Thank you.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name

[Ângela Loura]

Hi Liz,

It's Angélica

2017-05-03 1:08 GMT+01:00 Elizabeth Migliori :

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
> HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798_item1/P10.html
>
> Can someone tell the first name of first person right side.
> parents Thomas Francisco Correia and Rosa Maria
> Born Dec 2, 1791  baptised on the 15
>
> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Thank you

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net>
wrote:

> Angelica
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Elizabeth Migliori <lizmi...@gmail.com>
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 5:08 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Name
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
> HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798_item1/P10.html
>
> Can someone tell the first name of first person right side.
> parents Thomas Francisco Correia and Rosa Maria
> Born Dec 2, 1791  baptised on the 15
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name

[Shirley Allegre]

Angelica
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Migliori 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 5:08 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798_item1/P10.html


  Can someone tell the first name of first person right side.

  parents Thomas Francisco Correia and Rosa Maria

  Born Dec 2, 1791  baptised on the 15


  Liz


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name

[Elizabeth Migliori]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1791-1798_item1/P10.html

Can someone tell the first name of first person right side.
parents Thomas Francisco Correia and Rosa Maria
Born Dec 2, 1791  baptised on the 15

Liz

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Child (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[Ângela Loura]

We share this Andrade Puim line.

The priest did write the name with an "i" first, then with an "e", and with an 
"i" in your direct ancestor.

I've ser both versions, and also a similar name, Izidora/Isidora.

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Enviado: ‎17/‎03/‎2017 00:57
Para: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com>
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Child (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

A second set of eyes on this would be greatly appreciated because I'm having 
trouble with this child's name:


Here is the Link to her baptism... 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P94.html
 (2nd entry on the left)


As was discussed earlier surviving childhood was a significant challenge and I 
believe she died just after turning two. Here is the link to her obit... 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1776-1808/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1776-1808_item1/P4.html
 (5th entry on the right)


Is her name Ezideria or Izideria... it looks similar to the modern form of 
Isadora.


For extra bonus points... this couple has another child about three years later 
and they name the child a suspiciously similar name. Here is the link to the 
second childs baptism... 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P147.html


Although it's a similar (or perhaps the same name of the child that has died) 
this one baffles me.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.


George


By the way, I'm a direct descendant of the second child and I have found many 
other references to her and it appears that there is no consistent spelling of 
the name.


Thanks again...
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of Child (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[George Sousa]

A second set of eyes on this would be greatly appreciated because I'm
having trouble with this child's name:

Here is the Link to her baptism... http://culturacores.
azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-
SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P94.html (2nd entry on the left)

As was discussed earlier surviving childhood was a significant challenge
and I believe she died just after turning two. Here is the link to her
obit... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1776-1808/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1776-1808_
item1/P4.html (5th entry on the right)

Is her name Ezideria or Izideria... it looks similar to the modern form of
Isadora.

For extra bonus points... this couple has another child about three years
later and they name the child a suspiciously similar name. Here is the link
to the second childs baptism...
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P147.html

Although it's a similar (or perhaps the same name of the child that has
died) this one baffles me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

George

By the way, I'm a direct descendant of the second child and I have found
many other references to her and it appears that there is no consistent
spelling of the name.

Thanks again...

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

Hi Roslyn and all who have helped me with this.  

  Thanks so much.

It took me some time before I noticed the names were above the baptismal 
information.  The name on that baptism looked like Maria at first glance but 
then I started comparing letters to other records and started doubting my 
initial reading.  I've since seen the priest write the same name (Maria) more 
clearly and close enough to this one to be certain it is Maria.  Thanks so 
much.   

Maria Elena 

> On Feb 23, 2017, at 4:26 AM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
> 
> Roselyn,
> 
> You are right!
> 
> Usually they wrote the name side by side to the record, so i didn't even look 
> to the signatures area... Well spotted!
> 
> 2017-02-23 0:24 GMT+00:00 Hughes Roselyn :
>> Hi Maria, 
>> 
>> I believe that if you look just above the beginning of the last record on 
>> the left page you will see the name Maria.  This priest wrote the child's 
>> name above the record instead of in the record.
>> 
>> Hope  this helps.
>> Roselyn
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>> I'm looking to decipher the name of the child.   It is a girl but I can't 
>>> figure out her name.  
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena 
>>> 
 On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
 
 The second one down says Menino, and filho, so a boy child. 
 
 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima  
> wrote:
> 
> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
> 
> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right 
> page and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's 
> look different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V". 
> 
> Any help would be great!  Thank you.  
> 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Ângela Loura]

Roselyn,

You are right!

Usually they wrote the name side by side to the record, so i didn't even
look to the signatures area... Well spotted!

2017-02-23 0:24 GMT+00:00 Hughes Roselyn :

> Hi Maria,
>
> I believe that if you look just above the beginning of the last record on
> the left page you will see the name Maria.  This priest wrote the child's
> name above the record instead of in the record.
>
> Hope  this helps.
> Roselyn
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to decipher the name of the child.   It is a girl but I can't
>> figure out her name.
>>
>> Maria Elena
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The second one down says Menino, and filho, so a boy child.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
>>>
>>> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right
>>> page and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's
>>> look different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V".
>>>
>>> Any help would be great!  Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Hughes Roselyn]

Hi Maria,

I believe that if you look just above the beginning of the last record on
the left page you will see the name Maria.  This priest wrote the child's
name above the record instead of in the record.

Hope  this helps.
Roselyn

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> I'm looking to decipher the name of the child.   It is a girl but I can't
> figure out her name.
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
> The second one down says Menino, and filho, so a boy child.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
>>
>> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right
>> page and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's
>> look different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V".
>>
>> Any help would be great!  Thank you.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
>>
>> Maria Elena
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Hermano C. Pires]

Maria,
Second line, far right, the word looks very much like Lusia (Luzia).
Hermano

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Maria,
I've never seen this before in any of my records. Every one looks like Menina 
to me which means a girl child!

Rosemarie
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima 
<maria.lima...@gmail.com<mailto:maria.lima...@gmail.com>> wrote:

LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE

I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right page and 
also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's look different. 
 The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V".

Any help would be great!  Thank you.


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html

Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

I'm looking to decipher the name of the child.   It is a girl but I can't 
figure out her name.  

Maria Elena 

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> The second one down says Menino, and filho, so a boy child. 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> 
>> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
>> 
>> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right page 
>> and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's look 
>> different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V". 
>> 
>> Any help would be great!  Thank you.  
>> 
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

The second one down says Menino, and filho, so a boy child.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

>
> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
>
> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right
> page and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's
> look different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V".
>
> Any help would be great!  Thank you.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Maria,
I've never seen this before in any of my records. Every one looks like
Menina to me which means a girl child!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

>
> LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE
>
> I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right
> page and also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's
> look different.  The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V".
>
> Any help would be great!  Thank you.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

LEFT SIDE  - the LAST ONE

I thought it was Maria at first but there's another Maria on the right page and 
also one above this one and the M is different.  Also, the 'r's look different. 
 The first letter could also be an "N"?  Or a "V". 

Any help would be great!  Thank you.  


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P99.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the parish and island

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, Flamengos is a freguesia on Faial. The name of the church is Nossa
Senhora da Luz.

Cheri Mello
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Sme  wrote:

> Is this a parish on Faial?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
> HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>
> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of
> parents.
>
> Thank you kindly.
> Suzanne
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the parish and island

[Sme]

Is this a parish on Faial?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html

Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of
parents.

Thank you kindly.
Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

Oops!  You're right.  Thank you.  

Maria Elena 

> On Feb 5, 2017, at 8:29 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias. 
> Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks to 
> John Raposo.
> 
> JRoias
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>> Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T and "L" in other 
>> records he wrote.  It's definitely a Tereza.  Whew, it was a challenge.  
>> 
>> JR:  this TEREZA is a child of Heronimo Martins x Maria Cravalha our common 
>> ancestor.So far I found records for three children for them
>> 
>> MARIA, baptized 15 October 1667, page 0162
>> (Ginetes, Baptisms 1588-1677) (wife of Antonio Ferreira) 
>> 
>> MATHIAS baptized 27 September 1671; page 0162
>> 
>> TEREZA, baptized 13 January 1676
>> 
>> I've  searched into the year 1684 and haven't found any more children.  I 
>> noticed the three kids they had were spaced out; being 5 years between the 
>> last two.  
>> 
>> I'm going to look for obits to see if one or both of parents died.  
>> I dont know if you already had these in your data base but they are our 
>> cousins
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:27 PM, JR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop. 
>>> This first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps 
>>> accidental. May be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop 
>>> like the L.
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P176.html
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
 On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the 
 same way you do.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
 Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
> Top left 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
> 
> My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over 
> one of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
> 
> For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins 
> son of Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo 
> (?goncalves?) not 100% sure of that abbreviation.  
> 
> 
> 
> Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And 
> verify the godparents,  Thank you. 
> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[JR]

I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias. 
Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks 
to John Raposo.

JRoias



On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>
> Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T and "L" in other 
> records he wrote.  It's definitely a Tereza.  Whew, it was a challenge.  
>
> JR:  this TEREZA is a child of Heronimo Martins x Maria Cravalha our 
> common ancestor.So far I found records for three children for them
>
> MARIA, baptized 15 October 1667, page 0162
> (Ginetes, Baptisms 1588-1677) (wife of Antonio Ferreira) 
>
> MATHIAS baptized 27 September 1671; page 0162
>
> TEREZA, baptized 13 January 1676
>
> I've  searched into the year 1684 and haven't found any more children.  I 
> noticed the three kids they had were spaced out; being 5 years between the 
> last two.  
>
> I'm going to look for obits to see if one or both of parents died.  
> I dont know if you already had these in your data base but they are our 
> cousins
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:27 PM, JR  wrote:
>
> I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop. 
> This first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps 
> accidental. May be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop 
> like the L.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P176.html
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the 
>> same way you do.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>
>>> Top left 
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
>>>
>>> My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over 
>>> one of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
>>>
>>> For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins 
>>> son of Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo 
>>> (?goncalves?) not 100% sure of that abbreviation.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And 
>>> verify the godparents,  Thank you. 
>>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T and "L" in other records 
he wrote.  It's definitely a Tereza.  Whew, it was a challenge.  

JR:  this TEREZA is a child of Heronimo Martins x Maria Cravalha our common 
ancestor.So far I found records for three children for them

MARIA, baptized 15 October 1667, page 0162
(Ginetes, Baptisms 1588-1677) (wife of Antonio Ferreira) 

MATHIAS baptized 27 September 1671; page 0162

TEREZA, baptized 13 January 1676

I've  searched into the year 1684 and haven't found any more children.  I 
noticed the three kids they had were spaced out; being 5 years between the last 
two.  

I'm going to look for obits to see if one or both of parents died.  
I dont know if you already had these in your data base but they are our 
cousins

Maria Elena 

> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:27 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop. This 
> first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps accidental. May 
> be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop like the L.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P176.html
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the 
>> same way you do.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>> Top left 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
>>> 
>>> My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over one 
>>> of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
>>> 
>>> For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins son 
>>> of Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo (?goncalves?) 
>>> not 100% sure of that abbreviation.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And 
>>> verify the godparents,  Thank you. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[JR]

I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop. 
This first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps 
accidental. May be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop 
like the L.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P176.html

JR

On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:22:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the 
> same way you do.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima  > wrote:
>
>> Top left 
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
>>
>> My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over 
>> one of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
>>
>> For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins 
>> son of Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo 
>> (?goncalves?) not 100% sure of that abbreviation.  
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And 
>> verify the godparents,  Thank you. 
>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Cheri Mello]

Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the
same way you do.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> Top left
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
>
> My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over
> one of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
>
> For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins son
> of Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo (?goncalves?)
> not 100% sure of that abbreviation.
>
>
>
> Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And
> verify the godparents,  Thank you.
> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

[Maria Lima]

Top left 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html

My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over one of 
the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)

For the godparents the priest wrote the godparents were Gaspar Martins son of 
Ignacio Carvalho and barbara de Sousa, wife of Heronimo (?goncalves?) not 100% 
sure of that abbreviation.  



Can someone take a look and see if they can figure out the name ?  And verify 
the godparents,  Thank you. 
Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name switch Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Trying to locate the birth record of Maria Jacintha.  According to the marriage 
record of my great grandparents, my great grandmother was named Maria Jacintha 
and her parents were Antonio Jose de Moura and Rosa Jacintha.  In the marriage 
document which was written 7 January 1874, Maria Jacintha is 23 years of age 
and she was born in the parish of Santa Barbara, Santa Maria.  Here is the link 
to the marriage record in case I have read any of this incorrectly.  It is the 
only one on the page and very clear.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P33.html

I have looked at the years 1850 thru 1852 for Santa Barbara, Santa Maria births 
and the only one I can find that comes close is this:  Right hand side, middle 
one.  The father’s name is correct but; notice that the mother of Maria is 
shown as Maria Jacintha, not Rosa Jacintha as the marriage document shows and 
the paternal grandmother is named Rosa Jacintha.  My question;  Do you think 
the priest switched the names around in this birth record?  Is there any way to 
further verify if this is the correct document or not?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1847-1860/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1847-1860_item1/P23.html


As always, thanks in advance for any help you can give me,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

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U.S. Censuses are not released for public viewing until 72 years after the
census was taken. So the 1950 won't be released until sometime in 2020. You
have a few more years to wait. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Donald Vasconcelos]

There was a Gil family from the Azores who emigrated to Lawrence, MA in the 
1950's. I remember the daughter being Maria Gil, and a son Frank Gil. Don't 
know which island they were from.
You might want to check the US census in 1950.

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> On Jan 7, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> 
> I have seen GIL in Terceira, Azores.
> Shirley in CA
> - Original Message -
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> To: Azores Genealogy
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record
> 
> I've seen Gil somewhere, but I couldn't tell you where (probably this list). 
> I don't think it's very common.
> 
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> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:50 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
>> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Awesome!
>>  Thank you so much Cheri! I really appreciate the clarification. Figures 
>> that my record should be an oddball. ;-) my luck!
>>  I'm amazed it really was Gil! I'd never seen that and due to its shortness 
>> I had assumed it was an abreviation.  Is Gil a fairly rare last name?
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Shirley Allegre]

I have seen GIL in Terceira, Azores.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
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  I've seen Gil somewhere, but I couldn't tell you where (probably this list). 
I don't think it's very common.



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:50 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Awesome!
 Thank you so much Cheri! I really appreciate the clarification. Figures 
that my record should be an oddball. ;-) my luck!
 I'm amazed it really was Gil! I'd never seen that and due to its shortness 
I had assumed it was an abreviation.  Is Gil a fairly rare last name?

Jeremy


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Sandra Perez]

Jeremy,

6 - Antão Pereira de Quadros ou Pereira Barreto, alferes, que foi morador
na Calheta e casou duas vezes a 3.11.1714 com Maria de Azevedo Machado,
filha de Manuel de Barros Pereira e Ana Machado de Azevedo e a segunda com
Antónia Maria.

Teve da primeira mulher:

7 - Rosa de Quadros.

7 - Manuel Machado de Azevedo, que casou na Ribeira Seca em S. Jorge a
25.9.1740 com Maria da Ascensão, do Topo, filha de Francisco Lopes de Sousa
e Catarina de Sousa.


RR



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> Jeremy;  I have a Quadros family from Velas, Sao Jorge.  Mine are:  Gaspar
> Quadros married to Maria da Cunha.  Children of the couple are: Isabel,
> Melicia, Joao and Vitoria.  Just in case you find we have a connection.
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:29 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record
>
>
>
> Hello!
>
>
>
> I just unearthed the marriage record of one set of ancestors of mine.   It
> is fairly neat writing and I don't have much trouble deciphering most of it.
>
>
>
> I can make out that on November 27th 1779, Antonio de Quadros son of Antao
> Pereira de Quadros and Maria Ascencao (deasesed) married to Anna Pereira de
> Borba daughter of Simao Pereira de Cunha (deceased) and Maria (deceased).
>
>
>
> I *am* however having trouble making out Anna (the bride's) mother's last
> name Gil? It looks like an abreviation for something whatever it is
> I am certiain I am misreading it.  If anyone has any thoughts on it please
> let me know!
>
>
>
> The only other thing I would like to verify is that the grooms mother is
> deceased, not the grooms father.  I usually see defuncto after the parents
> names, but in this case it is before her name am I correct that she is
> the one that is deceased, and that Antao is living?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you very much!
>
>
>
> *Jeremy B-C*
>
> *Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Terceira, Faial, Graciosa*
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

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Jeremy;  I have a Quadros family from Velas, Sao Jorge.  Mine are:  Gaspar 
Quadros married to Maria da Cunha.  Children of the couple are: Isabel, 
Melicia, Joao and Vitoria.  Just in case you find we have a connection.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:29 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

Hello!

I just unearthed the marriage record of one set of ancestors of mine.   It is 
fairly neat writing and I don't have much trouble deciphering most of it.

I can make out that on November 27th 1779, Antonio de Quadros son of Antao 
Pereira de Quadros and Maria Ascencao (deasesed) married to Anna Pereira de 
Borba daughter of Simao Pereira de Cunha (deceased) and Maria (deceased).

I am however having trouble making out Anna (the bride's) mother's last 
name Gil? It looks like an abreviation for something whatever it is I 
am certiain I am misreading it.  If anyone has any thoughts on it please let me 
know!

The only other thing I would like to verify is that the grooms mother is 
deceased, not the grooms father.  I usually see defuncto after the parents 
names, but in this case it is before her name am I correct that she is the 
one that is deceased, and that Antao is living?


Thank you very much!

Jeremy B-C
Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Terceira, Faial, Graciosa
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Cheri Mello]

RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa
Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or
any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that
they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you!

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Ângela Loura]

No, not at all.

https://translate.google.pt/?hl=pt-PT#pt/en/gil
(click on the sound icon on the left side to hear Portuguese GIL)

2017-01-06 16:25 GMT+00:00 Marilyn Thompson :

> Could the Gil/l be another spelling for Guill?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy, I agree with Cheri, the name is Gil and it's certainly a surname
>> although James Guill's book The Azores Island, a History, spells it with
>> two 'L's'. I think that the wife is dead because he says 'sua mulher, da
>> funta (with an 'a') Maria ...
>>
>> Rosemarie
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>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:18 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Darn! I must be loosing my mind! Thanks for the heads up Rosemarie!
>>>
>>> It is: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR
>>> -CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781_item1/P149.html
>>> Left entry.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jeremy B-C*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Mary Bordi]

I was reading the names and I was thinking "Sao Jorge" and when you
provided the link it was! (I like to do that.)

Anyway, I have Nunes Gil in my Sao Jorge ancestry. (Norte Grande.) Not sure
how common it is, but it did exist in this timeframe.

Mary



On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:55 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Awesome!
>  Thank you so much Cheri! I really appreciate the clarification. Figures
> that my record should be an oddball. ;-) my luck!
>  I'm amazed it really was Gil! I'd never seen that and due to its
> shortness I had assumed it was an abreviation.  Is Gil a fairly rare last
> name?
>
> Jeremy
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