Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
a number of (secondary) questions which are themselves quite troubling, but I’ve covered all of the ones I could think of in the comments on the blog post. Worms, meet can. Cheers, M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Run Leopard or Snow

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
, of course. Cheers, M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-06 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 20:05, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: And let's not forget that EU Legislation has to be enacted by the UK Parliament. It was, as far as I know, six years ago. Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 06:41, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: It's the people who can't break the law, the consumer electronics companies who will be required to obtain a licence who will be affected. It is a legal trigger. Conditions placed on them (Consumer Electronics),

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:44, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Controlling the functionality of the Consumer Electronic product is seen (by the rights holders) as key to restricting the public access to broadcast content. No analog hole, HDMI only (encrypted, trusted) output

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:43, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: They don't want an open market, they have enjoyed a monopoly through broadcasting (limited bandwidth/broadcasters) and through copyright. They don't wish this to change. Regardless of the potential of new

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:04, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: How can they be compensated fairly for their work? A watermarking scheme which counts downloads or views, and apportions revenues accordingly? That would possibly mean a shift away from overcompensation of big names and a

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:33, Chris Warren ch...@ixalon.net wrote: Someone isn't going to finance content for you if you can't promise you'll do your utmost, through agreements with 3rd parties (e.g. broadcasters) and all the technical and legal measures available to you, to protect their

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:56, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that the BBC's strategy is to treat the UK and rest-of-world markets differently, with a profit orientation on the World side. Technical geolocalisation solutions are indeed doomed to failure in my view.

Re: [backstage] Encryption of HD by the BBC - cont ...

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 15:07, Alia Sheikh alia.she...@rd.bbc.co.uk wrote: However, don't get me wrong - it would be nice if there were more flexibility regarding the portability of protected content, but instead of many very smart people expending huge amounts of effort demonising DRM, maybe

Re: [backstage] Google Wave

2009-10-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
at the moment, though). I’m nevalic...@googlewave.com, should anybody feel the need. A search for “with:public” is quite a good place to start for those who are new to it. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-08 Thread Mo McRoberts
likely to get yourself written off as being crazy than make real headway in affecting change. Softly softly catchy monkey :) M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-08 Thread Mo McRoberts
to the status quo, but it -does- have some significant flaws, and I say that retaining the view that copyright as it exists today is flawed in some fairly serious ways. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:27, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Read Hat, SUSE etc all manage without a state sponsored monopoly, Microsoft can do so too. No thanks. I prefer the GPL, which derives its power from copyright law - the concept that creators decide how their work

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 13:09, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I'd like to see some hard numbers/evidence for this statement. How much are the costs? In dollars and pounds? How much is the benefit? Not statements of principle, but numbers. My opinion is that is you had hard

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 15:43, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: The implication is that the BBC approved of the sharing of iplayer content, of course it was subject to DRM. No, it really didn’t. That’s adding two and two together and getting pi. - Sent via the

Re: [backstage] Free as in 'Freedom'

2009-10-09 Thread Mo McRoberts
[Swapped order of paragraphs to make more sense] On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 17:16, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: iPlayer uses an application called Kontiki that manages your programme downloads. The problem is Kontiki is a P2P application that not only downloads content, but

[backstage] Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-12 Thread Mo McRoberts
From the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ba940c48-b6c5-11de-8a28-00144feab49a.html Thoughts? [My take: I’ve not great love for Sky (indeed, quite the opposite), but on this one I agree with them, even if I suspect their motives are far from altruistic, to say the least] M. -- mo mcroberts

[backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-12 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 12-Oct-2009, at 08:12, Mo McRoberts wrote: From the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ba940c48-b6c5-11de-8a28-00144feab49a.html Responding to myself (it’s an exciting life I lead), I notice that the FT says: “The broadcaster wants the Trust to force the BBC to allow anybody - not just

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-12 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 22:05, David Tomlinson d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Is it safe to post ? As for following up your own posts ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/08/project_canvas/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/08/project_canvas/page2.html To repeat, the technology

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Oct-2009, at 12:12, Stephen Jolly wrote: On 14 Oct 2009, at 11:47, Mo McRoberts wrote: Thus creating an (effective) two-tier system: those who work go the whole hog within Canvas, or those who adhere to all of the _technical_ specifications but need to come to separate

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
on a postcard to the usual address… M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Oct-2009, at 13:45, Stephen Jolly wrote: On 14 Oct 2009, at 12:23, Mo McRoberts wrote: I think the document I linked to implies a more flexible picture than that. It doesn’t. There's stuff in section 2.7 that talks about the flexibility manufacturers would have to change

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
anything interesting or special, and gives me virtually no control over much at all, but the DVB-T PCI card is a different matter altogether! M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
except a paper proposal when the first-stage responses on the (revised) consultation are yet to come, let alone the four-week consultation and actual decision on the project’s approval. am I being dim? M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
Hey Nick, Why don't you ask your boss Anthony? That was me asking the questions, not Anthony ;) (Unless you meant “why don’t you ask your boss, Anthony?”, in which case “Anthony’s not my boss” :)) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Changes to the list

2009-10-19 Thread Mo McRoberts
wonder the same thing. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group

Re: [backstage] Changes to the list

2009-10-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
!??!!?!1 I think you’re onto something there. Perhaps Freeview HD boxes should require a Facebook Connect login in order to deliver personalised and tailored content (e.g., BBC1)? -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali

Re: [backstage] Changes to the list

2009-10-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 20-Oct-2009, at 15:26, Phil Lewis wrote: [REDACTED] I’m sorry, I would have replied to your message, but it required quoting it, and I’m not sure I was granted the appropriate redistribution rights. M. Produced for the BBC Backstage Mailing List by Mo McRoberts’ fingers. © MM MMIX

Re: [backstage] BBC trust says no to Plans to open iPlayer up to other broadcasters

2009-10-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 20-Oct-2009, at 15:20, Tim Dobson wrote: What do you think? Good/Bad/Don't care? Sensible. http://nevali.net/post/218054190/back-of-envelope-analysis-bbc-trust-blocks-marquee M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter

Re: [backstage] FYI: Open iPlayer

2009-10-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 21:31, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: What is so important about the content/metadata ingest and delivery system that is the iPlayer that it needs to be licenced as opposed to being developed in-house at a broadcaster? Possibly the fact that no other bugger is

Re: [backstage] FYI: Open iPlayer

2009-10-21 Thread Mo McRoberts
in the face, it doesn’t change the reality of it). Perhaps one day we’ll see an open source EMP. Who knows? It’d certainly raise the bar where Flash media players are concerned. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run

Re: [backstage] Re: Sky hits out at Project Canvas

2009-10-21 Thread Mo McRoberts
Hybrid Broadcast Broadband TV, in that case? M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via

Re: [backstage] FYI: Open iPlayer

2009-10-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
/metadata platform which already exists. I wonder how true it is :) M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent

Re: [backstage] FYI: Open iPlayer

2009-10-23 Thread Mo McRoberts
). coughs http://testtubetelly.channel4.com /coughs Oh, I take it back, “prototype” though it is! Some listings integration wouldn’t go amiss, but at least somebody’s doing *something*. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter

Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !

2009-11-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
-to-license bits taken out). So, what was he on about? M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via

Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !

2009-11-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 10-Nov-2009, at 13:00, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 10-Nov-2009, at 12:50, Brian Butterworth wrote: Out of interest, does anyone have the new list of 20 Freeview HD transmitters? My Freeview contact seems to be away. Does digital.co.uk not tell you (in a slightly cubersome way)? http

Re: [backstage] Interview with Rupert Murdoch

2009-11-10 Thread Mo McRoberts
retires. I wouldn’t count on that being much help. James, at the very least, is even worse than he is (and has the current Shadow Culture Secretary on-side). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

2009-11-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
terribly, no matter what Neilson reckons. So in fact, I’d actually prefer to see the longer headlines all of the time (which does SEO no harm at all). BBC headlines ‘lengthened’. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

2009-11-20 Thread Mo McRoberts
-case is arriving at the page via a search engine—in which case richer titles are helpful (you’ve already told the SE what it is you’re looking for in any case). -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow

Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability

2009-11-21 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 15:51, backst...@gorge.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:11:28PM +, Frank Wales wrote: So, am I supposed to conclude that: 43.2 Floods body is missing policeman is noticeably easier to read than: 22.6 Whisky body backs safe drinking Well, use of the

[backstage] Redux and iPlayer

2009-11-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
for it all…) Cheers! Mo. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group

Re: [backstage] Redux and iPlayer

2009-11-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
platforms, so it struck me as perhaps a bit silly if Red Bee were doing that part of it. Mind you, I’m sure there’s a very sensible reason for it if so ;) All the best, Mo. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard

Re: [backstage] iplayer css broken in chrome?

2009-11-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
/style.css comes back as something that’s definitely not a stylesheet! Working fine over here in both Safari and Chrome (and that resource is definitely CSS for me). Cheers, Mo. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run

Re: [backstage] Google Wave

2009-12-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:20, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use it for work dialogues. I’d recommend waiting for a self-hosted server for “proper”

Re: [backstage] Websites to get Panic Buttons

2009-12-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 13:35, Lee Ball l...@leenukes.co.uk wrote: Seems like a good idea for me: Facebook and other social networking websites are to install panic buttons so children can alert the sites' operators if obscene or inappropriate material is posted.

Re: [backstage] Websites to get Panic Buttons

2009-12-07 Thread Mo McRoberts
. And, in fact, on reading the TCs just there, I can’t actually see any reference to a minimum age at all: http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
basis, all I can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back. Browser wars where the participants are all pretty much standards-compliant and pushing regular releases are A Good Thing; it’s proper competition. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Dec-2009, at 13:22, Jim Tonge wrote: On 14 Dec 2009, at 12:42, Mo McRoberts wrote: As somebody who still has to “fix” things for IE 6 on a regular basis, all I can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back. Just a joke :) Sorry, reading my reply back, it looked

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
that. Most web developers don’t have that luxury. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
to correct me if this is no longer the case! M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
browser upgrade :( Can't it just be lumped onto the Capita spend for the central database? It seems to have a blank cheque already We can upgrade our nuclear weapons, but not a web browser, etc., etc. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net

Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/04/power_line_networking/), but kit compliant with the standards is perfectly legal. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
networks to utilise multiple paths is predicated on there being more than one; that’s why intersite connectivity between universities probably would be maintained while many cheap and nasty hostcos go to the wall). M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m

[backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
Discuss. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Dec-2009, at 21:24, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's what people who haven't bought a computer yet do, isn't it pops? Where people wait to be provided what's given? Don't they use a tube or something? That’s “a TV”, the device. what is “TV” the medium? :) -- mo mcroberts http

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
. So presumably the upgrade to IE8 will happen in about 2017? ;) M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via

Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote: 2017 right after the Vista upgrade right? I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end of the next decade. M. -- mo mcroberts http

Re: [backstage] embedding API for iplayer in webapps?

2009-12-15 Thread Mo McRoberts
way of pushing events to the client from the server (with appropriate handling such that if you hear nothing from the server after a while, you open a new polling connection—I’d maybe have the server send a null packet every 15 seconds or so just to indicate that it’s still alive). M. -- mo

Re: [backstage] NoSQL databases

2009-12-23 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 17:41, Brendan Quinn brendan.qu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi all, We have been asked if we know some people who are doing interesting things with the NoSQL family of databases… CouchDB, Tokyo Cabinet, Voldemort, etc etc. Any ideas or stories to tell? We have some people

Re: [backstage] embedding API for iplayer in webapps?

2009-12-24 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:25, Nicholas Humfrey nicholas.humf...@bbc.co.uk wrote: For most content it will fail if you try and embedded on a page outside of .bbc.co.uk. Er, really? http://nevali.net/post/148482403/embedding-iplayer M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 19:17, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Why the Flash iPlayer client can't use the hardware acceleration.  I get lots of dropped frames watching through the iPlayer Desktop. Flash’s abysmal video decoder is a longstanding bone of contention amongst those

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:11, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: This is windows-only right now (presumably because Apple won't give Adobe access to the necessary APIs). Er, what? Where did that presumption come from? Nothing else on the Mac or Linux has a problem with video

Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer and the Nokia N900

2010-01-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 20:50, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: 2010/1/1 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net: it was suggested initially that GNU/Linux was pretty much irrelevant Only by ignorant assholes. :-) Making it a “GNU/Linux” issue misses the point, really: the OS itself is fairly

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 13:25, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: This is windows-only right now (presumably because Apple won't give Adobe access to the necessary APIs). Er, what? Where did that presumption come from? Nothing else on the Mac or Linux has a problem with video

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 13:19, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: a) VLC, when _not_ using the GPU, doesn’t struggle remotely as much as Flash b) VLC also overlays text and graphics over video Again using the GPU for compositing. On which platforms? As I said, I’m not talking about

Re: [backstage] NO Encryption of HD by the BBC !

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:59, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: A new proposal from Ofcom on the Freeview HD CMS: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/content_mngt/condoc.pdf http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/01/freeview_hd_content_management.html I love the fact

Re: [backstage] Defining Non-Commercial

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 16:13, Georgi Kobilarov georgi.kobila...@uberblic.com wrote: Dear backstage team, I have a question regarding the backstage data license: How does the BBC define non-commercial use? Do you consider a free web service or website from which no income is generated, but

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 16:41, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: I like the way Ofcom have totally missed the point about Linux/Open Source presuming it refers to STBs running Linux. Well, it would, and that's the easiest way to make the point about it. The fact it'll affect people

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 22-Jan-2010, at 17:42, Ian Stirling wrote: There is a third alternative. B) obtain the decoded tables from a third party in a country where this decryption is not illegal. I am unsure of the legality of this. It would of course imply that the device would need an internet connection -

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 22-Jan-2010, at 17:58, Steffan Davies wrote: Or use the usual open source DVB stack, read the raw EPG stream into a closed source userspace blob and de-huff it there with licensed tables? The LinuxTv stack appears to be under GPLv2, so no GPLv3 keys with the source worries. For now, and

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 22-Jan-2010, at 18:55, Steffan Davies wrote: Oh, definitely. I wasn't saying that would be a good implementation, just that it might permit appliance makers to comply without having to reinvent the wheel entirely (which typically leads to square or triangular wheels). To a point, yes, I

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
the developers? (Or even if they’re aware of this) [I’m guessing we’d have heard about it if the former answer was “yes”, but I’m curious about the latter] M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
to be), and there are some of the smartest people around who would only be too happy to try to reach some sort of… mutual understanding, as it were. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick

Re: [backstage] Defining Non-Commercial

2010-01-22 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 22-Jan-2010, at 16:50, Rob Myers wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:33:18 +, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: CC actually ran a consultation on it, and were going to do... something, at some point. … CC have run a consultation on this - http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-23 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 15:07, Steffan Davies st...@steff.name wrote: Couldn't agree more - the idea is daft and my suggestion was purely a implementation suggestion in the light of that daftery. Quite HD is so intrinsically different from standard DVB-T that it needs to be encumbered in this

Re: [backstage] Mail archives

2010-01-25 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:43, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I agree but there was no clear idea what we should do except maybe move the whole thing to Mailman? There was a consensus for Mailman, although I don't think anybody hates Majordomo enough to stamp feet over it!

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-25 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 16:57, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Web video has never really been open, unencumbered and free. We've had Real Networks RM format, Apple's QuickTime, Microsoft's Windows Media Video (now standardised as VC-1), the DivX and XviD codecs, and Adobe Flash

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-25 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 25-Jan-2010, at 18:59, Barry Carlyon wrote: Surely tho some clever person will write a plugin for Firefox to enable the H.264 codec, assuming they can get a version that will plugin/addon nicely As far as I know, FF provides no plugin interface for video and audio codecs. It’s been

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:48, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I've always been interested how x.264 and h.264 related to each other and co-exist. Is its simply a case like how Divx and Xvid work together or is there more ? [the question wasn't directed at me, but...] I'm not

Re: [backstage] MusicDNA and ItunesLP

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 13:01, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/is-the-world-ready-for-the-successor-of-the-mp3/ This is meant to make music piricay less tempting, so they say. Yes, cut off your remaining source of revenue for people who don't

Re: [backstage] MusicDNA and ItunesLP

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 15:41, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Storage and bandwidth is almost getting to the point where we could use raw PCM... Well, there's not a lot of point when there's lossless compression which can contain metadata (FLAC[0], ALAC, etc) :) M. [0] I

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 15:58, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: People might be interested that in the ORG perspective: For what it's worth, I was in discussions with Jim prior to that meeting, and put together a document for him outlining the situation and the issues that I'd turned up

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 16:26, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Out of interest, has anyone done a proper legal search on the proposals? I'm under the impression that the mandate that puts all public service content out without any form of proection is in primary legislation,

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 26-Jan-2010, at 17:20, Brian Butterworth wrote: It should be noted that the content management approach implemented for Freeview HD will frequently enable far more extensive copying and distribution of broadcast content than is likely to be considered acceptable to the majority of

Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 26-Jan-2010, at 16:20, Mo McRoberts wrote: If I remember later, I'll dig it out and post it to this thread. It made for a reasonable semi-executive summary, even if it wasn't quite as diplomatic as it might be if it were addressed to BBC senior management, for example ;) And without

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 26-Jan-2010, at 20:19, Kieran Kunhya wrote: Older macs without H.264 hardware acceleration also have a very basic version of the spec through Quicktime because Apple don't seem to fix any bugs with it. It’s not just older Macs. Basically, if you don’t restrict yourself to Baseline

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:20, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: You do get an awful lot better results when you are not compressing in real time, of course, because you can use all the MPEG4 forward references, the ones you don't get when you real time encode. that's a good

[backstage] iPad

2010-01-27 Thread Mo McRoberts
So, what does everyone think? (and how much effect will it have on the video situation over the next 18 months or so, do we reckon?) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:03, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Underwhelming.  It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD. Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard. It does, both. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:32, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: It does, both, what? it runs an operating system. it has a keyboard. 2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:03, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Underwhelming.  It's

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:06, Rupert Watson rup...@root6.com wrote: Did he say whether iBooks will run on existing iPhones? Not seen it mentioned. iBooks is US-only for the moment, though. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:56, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system. And it clearly doesn't have a keyboard. Not just an operating system, but a very close

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:49, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: 2010/1/28 Daniel Morris daniel.mor...@bbc.co.uk: Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system. Am I missing something - how is it not an OS?

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:20, Michael Kraskin michael.kras...@bbc.com wrote: I think the no-Flash means that it a seriously crippled web browser.  Hardly the best way to browse the internet, and thus will be a serious disappointment, not only to power users, but to casual internet surfers as

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-28 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:43, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Apologies for inflammatory language, I found out this morning someone has stolen by external terrabyte drive.  Lost a decade of TV recordings... Oh cripes, my condolences :( - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-29 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 14:53, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: But tinkerers are a limited market; there are lots of people who like to soup up their cars, but there are lots more who don't. If Apple is wise—and I'm betting it is—it'll build a tablet for the large majority of

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-30 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 22:55, Jim Tonge jim_d_to...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: And iStore lock-in? For those without a computer, they have but one store to buy content from, no? The hardware supports several scenarios not yet exposed by the OS. The iPad can operate as a USB host *or* a USB client;

Re: [backstage] iPad

2010-01-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 31-Jan-2010, at 18:31, Christopher Woods wrote: That said, the curated shop / marketplace experience will always hold sway with the 'just want it to work' segment of the userbase, so the lightbulb moment will only happen for most users when someone/some company manages to devise a

Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?

2010-01-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 27-Jan-2010, at 16:19, Dave Crossland wrote: Well exactly, there are THREE main desktops, and one doesn't and wont have h264 preinstalled. This wouldn't be a problem if The Guardian and other news broadcasters stopped bystanding and made the videos they publish available in Xiph

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