Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-04-30 Thread Jonathan Moore
It's funny that you wish to move to a program such as Scrivener for your writing projects seeing as it relies on a bundled database file format which obscures much of your 'project management' workflows from OS X. Scrivener is effectively an IDE for writing but rather than referencing project

Re: [ OFFLIST ] Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-13 Thread Alex Satrapa
I was falling into the mire of string manipulation AppleScript-style. Very ugly :( The shell version is my favourite, even though it isn't particularly elegant. I just have to accept that AppleScript is a glue language, not intended for stand-alone use :) Thank you for the suggestions! Alex

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-13 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good afternoon, On 11/2/15 at 5:07 PM -0800, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: What do I want out of this thread? Reread my OP. Workarounds! Copy/Pasting into/out of Yojimbo/Evernote won't solve the problem, for reasons I mentioned (thanks for the suggestion, though). Anything else? Any

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-13 Thread Jimmbo
--- Do you have an irrational fear of AppleScript? --- No. I love applescript. I've responded quickly to postings which didn't require pondering and experimentationi.e. the ones insisting my entire issue is silly, and/or that Finder's a perfectly fine data management

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Satrapa
On 12 Feb 2015, at 12:07, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: What do I want out of this thread? Reread my OP. Workarounds! Copy/Pasting into/out of Yojimbo/Evernote won't solve the problem, for reasons I mentioned (thanks for the suggestion, though). Anything else? Any non-crusties who've

[ OFFLIST ] Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-12 Thread Christopher Stone
On Feb 12, 2015, at 15:00, Alex Satrapa gr...@goldweb.com.au wrote: I got stuck trying to get the time of day into a useful format. __ Hey Alex,

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-12 Thread Jimmbo
- the developers aren't going to tack a full-scale file-system-manager onto their text-editor. - It's not a tack-on. It's addressing a hole. As-is, BBedit auto-saves unsaved docsto an obscure folder, not easily discovered or searched (Spotlight doesn't see it, I don't

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Jimmbo
-- Does file/document management have to be done within BBEdit? There are quite a few file management tools for the Mac that will do all that kind of file management for you, and since you have choice, you can find whatever tool does it the best for your working style. -- I'd

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Steve deRosier
Jimmbo, You might want to look at it from a different perspective: what is the problem you're trying to solve?, not from the perspective of: which file-management tool will do what I want?. From what you describe, you've got a lot of different scraps in flight and would like a safe place to put

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Jimmbo
-- I don't understand why you have literally hundreds of untitled documents in various stages of completion, and how that's somehow connected with BBEdit auto-saving unnamed documents. -- It's gotta be titled and saved somewhere, right? I don't always know where a given piece

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Alex Satrapa
On 12 Feb 2015, at 02:54, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: -- I don't understand why you have literally hundreds of untitled documents in various stages of completion, and how that's somehow connected with BBEdit auto-saving unnamed documents. -- It's gotta be

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Christopher Stone
On Feb 11, 2015, at 10:00, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: But my suspicion is that if I can't do the organization, categorization, classification and tagging within the app (ala Scrivener), I'll wind up right back at my current cumbersome situation. On Feb 11, 2015, at 09:54, Jimmbo

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Jimmbo
Yes, I'm already an Evernote user. That (or Yojimbo) is great for my recipes, my takeout menus, my software licenses, my gadget manuals. Any static bits of data. But not so great for dynamic items getting worked on dynamically and relentlessly. That's not what it's for. You're envisioning

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Christopher Stone
On Feb 11, 2015, at 15:13, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: Modern apps organize their data. __ This is a ridiculous overgeneralization. Can BBEdit improve? Sure. But the developers aren't going to tack a full-scale

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good morning, On 11/2/15 at 9:10 AM -0800, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: Answer: it won't go back to EV. I'll accumulate untitled docs in BBedit until I'm back to my present predicament, with a bunch of useless old versions also confusingly in EV. Unless I do that transference

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-11 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good morning, On 11/2/15 at 1:13 PM -0800, Jimmbo jimleff...@gmail.com wrote: As for shuttling text back/forth from Evernote, Yojimbo, or Devonnote, that's no solution at all (see my reply re: Evernote). Modern apps organize their data. I've been (trying to) follow this thread, but I'm not

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Watts Martin
As someone who's in both BBEdit and Scrivener every day, I can speak partially to this. First, I think it's very easy to fall into the trap of assuming most pro writers work the way you do, but that's not necessarily true. I use Markdown and HTML exclusively for technical writing, but a lot

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Kerri Hicks
Does file/document management have to be done within BBEdit? There are quite a few file management tools for the Mac that will do all that kind of file management for you, and since you have choice, you can find whatever tool does it the best for your working style. --Kerri It's a floor wax and

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good morning, On 8/2/15 at 10:13 AM +1100, Alex Satrapa gr...@goldweb.com.au wrote: It's hard to know what BBEdit is failing at for you because powerfully categorizing, tagging, organizing and prioritizing docs is really going to change from person to person. For me, the one thing BBEdit

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Alex Satrapa
Jimmbo wrote: I've been a Mac user since System 6, but it's clear that Finder is not a modern file or doc management system. That's why many pro level apps contain their own organizational systems (many such apps are like OSes unto themselves unto themselves). I haven’t seen much outside

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Charlie Garrison
Good morning, On 8/2/15 at 10:38 AM +1100, Alex Satrapa gr...@goldweb.com.au wrote: A quick run-down of the document management of Scrivener for those following this discussion: Scrivener has a “Binder” which is somewhat analogous to BBEdit’s “Project” panel. You can organise documents

Re: BBedit's Creaky Use of Finder For Doc/File/Project Management

2015-02-07 Thread Watts Martin
Alex Satrapa wrote: I also use Byword for editing Markdown documents. My preference for which editor to use changes depending on my mood and the weather. Sometimes I prefer Byword’s “formatting” of Markdown (markup is faded out, marked-up headings are bold and larger, italicised or bolded