grrrrr, no Eterm et. al. support for a while more

2002-01-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So, spent a while last night working with bsetroot. Setting the required X Atom is only half of the problem -- the pixmap must still be there when Eterm (or whomever) requests it. Well, I can make this work for the -mod option. the -solid option never actually creates a pixmap so there is

anyone able to test XawTV?

2002-01-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Recently it has been reported that the 0.62.0 series breaks XawTV. Subject in the list was 0.62 messes up xawtv/v4l video capture. I am looking for anyone able to test and give a positive or negative to this report.

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Additionally (although rare) there are those times I would like to stretch an app to span both heads. Without xinerama this is not possible. And this is the stated, documented, and implemented reason for and behavior of Xinerama in relation to blackbox. I'm not against Xinerama. If

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I'm not sure why you're clinging so hard to this. Let me guess. You have 2 monitors that are exactly the same size, and you keep them right next to each other. The fact that people would have two monitors of the same exact size is rare. And if you do have different sizes, how to you like it

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I also have many virtual work spaces(10), some dedicated, some floating. For me, this is still no replacement for quickly being able to move one app quickly out of the way. I wouldn't be able to see the app any more, and moving it back would require me to go to that workspace and move

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Jan-2002 Ryan Harris wrote: You can thank me for that little tidbit. =) Sorry, but I couldn't live without it. Will see if some of my upcoming changes make it any clearer to code a replacement.

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Or just use the workspace menu .. Using the workspace menu is even harder. First find the app in the hiarchy of menus. When I selected the app it would move me to that workspace, then I would have to move it back to the origional workspace I was on, then actually go to that

website, let's get the decision made

2002-01-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
1) http://www.planetquake.com/lvl/blackbox 2) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox 3) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox/lightgfx.html 4) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb2/ 5) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb/index.html 6) http://furt.com/blackbox Right now I am leaning towards 2

Re: website, let's get the decision made

2002-01-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Jan-2002 xOr wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 08:28:09AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: 1) http://www.planetquake.com/lvl/blackbox 2) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox 3) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox/lightgfx.html 4) http://speed.seas.upenn.edu/~rarya/bb2/ 5) http

Re: website, let's get the decision made

2002-01-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Jan-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox requires horizontal scrolling in NS - Blah! 3) http://www.threadbox.net/blackbox/lightgfx.html requires horizontal scrolling in NS - Blah! 4) http

Re: website, let's get the decision made

2002-01-26 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
My votes in order of preference: #6 - looks best structured imho and renders correctly in every browser i've tested. (the lines on the logo should be cleaned up!) #1 - renders correctly in NS 4.7 (original doesn't over here) I like #6 as well. However it looks a lot like the

Re: bbpager + another mouse button

2002-01-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Cheers, James. Couldn't find the bbpager.bb files on my Debian machine, but touching it and putting your configuration in it has reduced my RSI by 50% already! ;-) The files in ~/ are not autogenerated like the blackboxrc, you have to copy therm or create them. /etc/bbtool is where you

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I believe this is the problem. I never did any tests with any other set ups other than my own (which is RightOf). This weekend I don't think I have too much homework to do. If I can find some time I'll play around with other setups and find out why they break things. Thanks for all

cvs on sf.net

2002-01-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
ok, cvs is up to date on sf.net. It even has 0.62.1pre0 which is not released. The website shows (0 commits, 0 adds). Not sure how it tracks this. My usual usage of cvs is: cvs import blackbox version blackbox blackbox blackbox-0_XX_X so at any time you can do cvs co -rblackbox-0_XX_X to

Re: cvs on sf.net

2002-01-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
For some reason it does not consider my usage a commit or an add. cvs is being used, just not in the way some people are accustomed to seeing. Will you be making mention of this somewhere on the page, perhaps on the newly created blackbox page, when it's done? definately, it is

Re: .blackboxrc keeps resetting the value of slit.onTop

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Sean--are you open to changing this? Does anyone have a good reason why it shouldn't change? I understand the importance of blackbox trying to make sure it has a good rc-file for the next time it opens, but I think the current implementation of the solution for whatever problem this was

Re: bbmail and bbpager

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: Hello, I just found in my dselect of Debian Potato 'bbmail' and 'bbpager'. I use blackbox 0.61.1-1.1. bbmail is version 0.6.2-2 and bbpager is 0.1.6-1. So, I installed both and tried to start those tools. But nothing happened. No message, nothing.

Re: newbies ..

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jan-2002 Luke Freeman wrote: Don't know if too many people are aware of my project but I thought there might be some newbies or experts alike which would be interested. I have been working on a configuration tool for blackbox for about a year now in my spare time (which is not so

Re: 64 bit cleanness

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I haven't played too much around with it, so there might be more issues. But it compiles cleanly and it at least runs and some of the psychedelic colors looks cool enough that AMD will show it running in LinuxWorld next week. sweet (-: Seriously now. No one has ever reported on the 64

more thoughts on Re: 64 bit cleanness

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I haven't played too much around with it, so there might be more issues. But it compiles cleanly and it at least runs and some of the psychedelic colors looks cool enough that AMD will show it running in LinuxWorld next week. Would a sparc ultra 1 be able to run in 64 bit mode under

Re: newbies ..

2002-01-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Jan-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:56:37PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 25-Jan-2002 Luke Freeman wrote: Its GTK based so its pretty quick. It can be found at http://whitebox.sourceforge.net/. Give it a try and let me know what you think. P.S. Sorry

Re: Xinerama support

2002-01-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Jan-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 22:57, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Brad worked hard to make sure Blackbox was one of the few wms to support multiple screens. Rest assured I will take the same precautions. If I can at the same time make Xinerama users' lives

Re: bbkeys misbehavior

2002-01-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Not bbkeys, I think. There'd have to be some way to tel blackbox to ignore the window and not pass focus to it. Bbkeys is trying to get the focus on whatever you chose in the menu. As long as bbkeys is separate from blackbox, i can't see this going away, without some kludgy extra code in

Re: .blackboxrc keeps resetting the value of slit.onTop

2002-01-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-Jan-2002 Nexist Xenda'ths wrote: Hello: All this talk of the slit has caused me to want to experiment with the slit. Anyway, I want the slit to always be visable, preferably preventing maximized apps from claiming that section of the screen. So, I thought that I could set

Re: .blackboxrc keeps resetting the value of slit.onTop

2002-01-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Note, blackbox will still maximize a window into the area the slit fills, it will just be under the slit and not on top. Is there a patch to fix that? Speaking of Patches, where can I find them (specifically the KDE apps into the Slit Patch)? Both patches can be fond via the Tracker

Re: get workspace name

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Jan-2002 Sascha Huedepohl wrote: Hi, i wonder if it is possible to get the name of the current workspace. What i wont to do is: - press Alt-(1-9) to switch to a workspace - press F5 to open a new aterm this already works fine. Now i think there should be a little shell-script to

Comments desired regarding possible upcoming changes

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As we move forward in the code reorganization, I would like to remove some of the precompiler cruft. Which brings me to the following questions: a) are there any OS/2 people out there using blackbox. I would like to remove the OS/2 cruft if possible. b) the slit is currently a compile time

Re: Comments desired regarding possible upcoming changes

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
What has always surprised me with blackbox is that the 'toolbar' has no functionality to speak of: you can switch workspaces, see the time and see which window has the focus. The toolbar is one of the things that makes blackbox unique. I like the very minimal and resource friendly clock,

Re: Comments desired regarding possible upcoming changes

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Jan-2002 Markus Ottenbacher wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: b) the slit is currently a compile time option which I think is a little silly. How many of you actually compile with the slit turned off? How many of those would care if the slit was still in the code, but only active

Re: Some minor font problems

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Jan-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi, I use blackbox with the nl_NL@euro encoding (which has default charset iso-8859-15), and I have some font problems with the current bb releases (including 0.62). Many styles display a fixed font instead of lucidasans-10. Some display the font

Re: Comments desired regarding possible upcoming changes

2002-01-21 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Jan-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: On Mon, Jan21,02 09:15, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I am not found of the icon on toolbar idea. It turns the toolbar into more of a panel and well, there are already plenty of those. As for the battery load idea, I like it and have considered it know

Re: bbconf error installing (configure)

2002-01-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jan-2002 Nexist Xenda'ths wrote: I get an error when running configure for bbconf. Is this where I ask for help, or is there a forum specific to bbconf? checking for libz... configure: error: not found. Check your installation and look into config.log I do not understand the

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Jan-2002 Greg Gilbert wrote: * Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Do you use a standard pc104 keyboard in standard qwerty mode or do you have another type of keyboard? Perhaps it really isn't this, but as you said nothing else changed between pre2 and 3 that affects

0.62.0 is released!

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I just sent 0.62.0 screaming into the the wild. Usual place: http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm. A deb will appear on your local Debian mirrors shortly as well.

Re: Error in blackbox-0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jan-2002 Andreas Lappe wrote: Hey, I get an error while compiling the 0.62.0, the logfile with error is included as attachment ;-) grumble grumble grumble I added Jan's german nls and forgot to test ONE MORE TIME. Dammit. Will have this fixed in a few moments.

Re: Error in blackbox-0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jan-2002 Andreas Lappe wrote: Hey, I get an error while compiling the 0.62.0, the logfile with error is included as attachment ;-) AH, the joys of nls support. Seems there was a typo in the nls/de_DE/Screen.m which caused the blackbox-nls.hh to have a German word and not the

Re: Error in blackbox-0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I am uploading a fixed tarball right now. In the end, the culprit was the Makefile for de_DE was based on the C Makefile.am and not one of the other languages. So it was trying to write the blackbox-nls.hh as well. Both this and the typo in the Screen.m have been fixed. Sorry for the hassle.

Re: Error in blackbox-0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jan-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the end, the culprit was the Makefile for de_DE was based on the C Makefile.am and not one of the other languages. My bad - sorry. Honest mistake. I thought I had fixed it when i copied over the nl_NL

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jan-2002 Kyle Donaldson wrote: I just installed 0.62.0 and after starting it I can't resize or move any windows! Anyone have an idea as to why this is happening? well, it works here.. Do you mean you can nove resize them with the mouse or via bbkeys?

Re: Moving Windows on 0.62.0

2002-01-19 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Jan-2002 Kyle Donaldson wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 19-Jan-2002 Kyle Donaldson wrote: I just installed 0.62.0 and after starting it I can't resize or move any windows! Anyone have an idea as to why this is happening? well, it works here.. Do

pre5 is at sf.net

2002-01-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm Slovenian man pages and nls Dutch man pages support for @euro the man pages are not installed by make install, I would appreciate if someone (Wilbert) sent me a patch, I have not had time yet to fix this. Well boys and girls, consider this your last chance.

Re: getting fonts to work with bb

2002-01-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
ok, on the console where blackbox was started do you see: BScreen::LoadStyle(): couldn't load font ? it should name the font it can not find. Nope, there was no such message at all Then we have one of two things occuring: easy case - you are missing blackbox's output

Re: blackbox crasher bug

2002-01-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
In the 0.62.0 final I have the buffer turned down to 128 and the overflow fixed. However I have not addressed the ugly rendering bug associated with this problem. That is for another day and another release.

Re: Dutch manual pages

2002-01-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jan-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi Sean, I included the updated Dutch manualpages for Blackbox (.in) and Bsetroot. They should be installed in $prefix/share/man/locale/man1/ (locale preferably being short, like 'nl'). IMHO in a default install the internationalized

Re: nl_NL@euro (And international man pages)

2002-01-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 16-Jan-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keen. I was sent Slovenian man pages and nls files Sunday. Blackbox now supports *12* languages. Only major languages were are missing are German and Chinese. Let me know which files

Re: nl_NL@euro (And international man pages)

2002-01-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 16-Jan-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16-Jan-2002 Jan Schaumann wrote: Let me know which files are to be translated, and I see if I can turn them into some Deutsch. look at nls/C, that is the template for the others. Not sure how

Re: Blackbox in the news

2002-01-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jan-2002 John Kennison wrote: I just thought I would share this link, blackbox received some more good publicity today :) http://www.mlug.ca/paul/stories/column20_html takes all types. Would be nice if people who wrote articles contacted the author on occasion.

Re: nl_NL@euro can't find catalog.

2002-01-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
But Blackbox doesn't like this: wilbert@obelix:~$ echo $LANG ; echo $LC_ALL nl_NL@euro nl_NL@euro wilbert@obelix:~$ blackbox -help failed to open catalog, using default messages Blackbox 0.62.0pre3 : (c) 2001 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry 1997 - 2000 Brad Hughes (etc

Re: nl_NL@euro can't find catalog.

2002-01-14 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 15-Jan-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Can't blackbox use gettext and *.mo files like may other projects or would that add too many dependencies? I honestly do not know why Brad chose catgets (foo.m) over gettext (foo.po). I am mailing

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox?

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Anh Lai wrote: yeah, figured it out, forgot bsetroot does gradient stuff of bb that Eterm does not understand. So it only works for actual files. So Eterm will not use a bsetroot generated background for transparency? If this is true, it should be easily fixed. A bug in

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox?

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
We went through this in #blackbox a couple of months ago. You see it in reverse with applications like aterm remembering old backgrounds: 1. use bsetroot to set the background. 2. aterm et al respect the background setting and transparency works. 3. Eterm complains about unsupported

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox?

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:19:36AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, I was a E hacker way back when and saw the birth of Eterm. I even used to work with its author (ick). You have my condolences. :) Eterm... bleah. So much required, for so little

Re: getting fonts to work with bb

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Anh Lai wrote: hmmm, I tried LANG=C, and LANG=POSIX and LANG unset, still does not display the font wanted, only a big ugly one. anymore ideas? I just exported the variable, i didnt change the /etc/sysconfig/i18n. you must do this BEFORE you launch X or blackbox. If you

Re: getting fonts to work with bb

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Anh Lai wrote: hmmm, I tried LANG=C, and LANG=POSIX and LANG unset, still does not display the font wanted, only a big ugly one. anymore ideas? I just exported the variable, i didnt change the /etc/sysconfig/i18n. ok, on the console where blackbox was started

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox?

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Atom's hold integer indexes into the X server. You store the Pixmap ID and then ask for it. So of: _XSETROOT_ID _XROOTPMAP_ID ESETROOT_PMAP_ID Which is the one that you're supposed to use? I assume that ESETROOT_PMAP_ID is the non-standard one that Eterm

Re: getting fonts to work with bb

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 10:14:39PM +0100, Vincenzo Colosimo wrote: However, there may be obsolete, since i have changed the file blackbox-0.61.1/src/i18n.cc. In the line 58 i've changed: locale = setlocale(LC_ALL, ); to: locale =

Re: getting fonts to work with bb

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 02:22:31PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: right, because aterm was not a login shell and thus your rc file was ignored. No, bash reads ~/.bashrc on a non-login shell. That's what it's FOR: When an interactive shell

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox? (fwd)

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Jan-2002 Eric Christian Carlsen wrote: My vote is against adopting wmsetbg. I tried to use it with aterm using transparecy and shading. Every time I moved or resized the window it took literally two seconds before it fixes the transparency. It doesn't work well with aterm if you have

Re: Eterm transparency with blackbox? (fwd)

2002-01-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I've spent the last hour or so playing with Eterm again. I think a lot of prejudices I had against it were due to the Debian package of it. Dunno what's really up with it, but it misbehaves terribly if I install the package from unstable, yet if I build it myself it works fine. It's slower

0.62.0pre4 released

2002-01-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The cause of the recent crashes has been tracked down. Blackbox was holding a pointer to a window and that window was destroyed but the pointer was not updated. Window A gets focus, Window B is opened and gets focus. Window A gets destroyed. Window B gets destroyed and blackbox tries to give

Re: 0.62.0pre4 released

2002-01-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jan-2002 Nexist Xenda'ths wrote: Why does the -version still indicate that it is pre-release4. I deleted the prior install just to make sure. because I often forget to edit configure.in, which is where the version string is stored. If it bothers you, open the file, edit line 4.

attention i18n / translation users

2002-01-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
If you use the blackbox with a language other than English please read this. I would appreciate it if you could read the nls/ file that corresponds to the language(s) you use and look for any discrepancies in the text between the English version and your own as well as updates to the wording

RE: Patch for bbapm-0.0.1

2002-01-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Jan-2002 Jason Arias Willis wrote: Hello again, Actually, I've just realized something else. In README the author states that Image.cc (which was causing the compilation errors) was copied from the blackbox source tree. This was an attempt to have bbapm take on the same

Re: Possible Spin-Lock with 0.61.2pre4 (and with 0.62.0pre2)

2002-01-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jan-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 11:45, xOr wrote: Has this problem gone away in any releases since 0.61.2pre4? It would appear that my list feed is lagging somewhat (been getting blast deliveries of 40+ mails from the list over the last couple of days). I

Re: problems with compilation of the newest version

2002-01-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 11-Jan-2002 Marcin Cylke wrote: Hello I'm new with the Black Box.I downladed the packed archive with sources of black box 0.61.1 and have problems with its compilation.I run configure, and the make, as a usual user.It effects with this error messages: http://sf.net/projects/blackboxwm.

Re: Is there a default .desktop file?

2002-01-11 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jan-2002 Nexist Xenda'ths wrote: I ended up modifying the old .desktop file to point to the new location, but if you don't provide one, it would be nice if the README or INSTALL files contained info on what one should look like. Conversely, if one is around somewhere, it would be nice

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jan-2002 Arjen Hommersom wrote: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: This the release you have all been waiting for. * lock modifiers no longer affect blackbox -- leave num lock on, who cares!@! * the recent crash that sylpheed, mozilla, and others tickle seem to have been fixed -- PLEASE TEST

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
at line 1383 of Window.cc add a ' timer-isTIming()' to the test before it calls timer-stop(). Let me know what happens. of course, it helps if I do not read code when I am tired, disregard the happiness.

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
line 1383 is a timer-start() if (screen-isSloppyFocus() screen-doAutoRaise()) timer-start(); does he want to add a !timer-isTiming()? start() bothers to check, stop doesn't. Problem is elsewhere.

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I can provide the output of 'bt' in 'gdb /usr/local/src/blackbox-0.62.0pre3/src/blackbox ./core', is that what you mean? Else I can send you the core and binary, and you can do it :) Was the window covering part of the toolbar when this happened?

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As a wrinkle in the works, do the usual sylpheed crash test, but make sure the dialogs are over the toolbar. We are tracking these corner cases one by one!

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jan-2002 Alexandra Walford wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:27:57 -0800 (PST), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can provide the output of 'bt' in 'gdb /usr/local/src/blackbox-0.62.0pre3/src/blackbox ./core', is that what you mean? Else I can send you the core

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It also crashes sylpheed-claws-0.6.6 when sending mail (a little progress window pops up when contacting the smtp server). The output of *that* backtrace is: i.e. same spot. Grrr

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jan-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 23:38:25 -0800 (PST) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One little thingy: Is there really any reason to place windows 'edgeSnapThreshold' pixels from the border in Workspace.cc? I use an edgesnapthreshold of 10

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It also crashes sylpheed-claws-0.6.6 when sending mail (a little progress window pops up when contacting the smtp server). The output of *that* backtrace is: I am quite baffled by this. The failure is in the call to getToolbar. So, this means the screen returned by win-getScreen() is

Re: bb homepage

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jan-2002 xxx yyy wrote: Hi, I'm a new bblackbox user and it would be nice if the help - links on the bb-homepage wouldn't end in themes.org - 404! the rest is ok - a fine wm we are working on a new website. If you really want access to themes.org, bb.classic.themes.org is the URL.

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-10 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 10-Jan-2002 Ricardo L. A. Bánffy wrote: - Original Message - From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:00 AM Subject: 0.62.0pre3 released! * i18n.cc compiles under cygwin, it of course does nothing Anyone tells me

0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
This the release you have all been waiting for. * lock modifiers no longer affect blackbox -- leave num lock on, who cares!@! * the recent crash that sylpheed, mozilla, and others tickle seem to have been fixed -- PLEASE TEST THIS. If you missed it, enable autoraise, then use an app that opens

Re: 0.62.0pre3 released!

2002-01-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
One little thingy: Is there really any reason to place windows 'edgeSnapThreshold' pixels from the border in Workspace.cc? I use an edgesnapthreshold of 10 but don't like new windows appear always 10 pixels away from the screen edges. Anyway, it's a very small patch that I always can use

Re: Threads BB Web - Reworked

2002-01-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Jan-2002 ray@crytek wrote: I've put my HTML skills to the test and reworked Threads design. I've removed all images except the 'blackbox' and the 'blackbox title'. I've also removed most of the nested tables, most of the width=100%, cleaned up the style sheet a little, changes to the

Re: Bug in Blackbox 0.61.1 with blackbox 0.61.1 icon patch V9

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
If blackbox doesn't set focus on a window other than the one it just minimized, than the now-iconified window still is marked as being the current window. Note--this problem only occurs when blackbox minimizes a window and doesn't have another window to set focus on. bbkeys isn't given a

Re: Startup annoyance

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 J.S. wrote: Hi. Each time I start Blackbox, it doesn't fully 'refresh' itself: Four aterm windows and root-tail are loaded by .xinitrc. Normally, the aterm windows gets be placed next to and beneath each other. Some times, however, they all get placed on top of the first

Re: Where are the docs?

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Yes, but I just mean that the answer to Nexist Xenda'ths' question isn't enough. Could I download the docs somewhere? all the docs that exist are in the source tarball. Just download it and grab them.

Re: BB Feature

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I agree with that somewhat. I dislike the format of the middle-click workspace list...I personally would prefer an option to make it just one list of windows, rather than a list of windows divided into workspaces. Windowmaker, pwm, and many other windowmanagers I've used behave like this,

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: Hello, I just wanted to take a look at blackbox wm, coz I wanted something new. I was able to configure it like I wanted it to be, but I would like to have some keybindings to open an xterm for example. I read that you have to use bbkeys for version =

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for.

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses

Re: bbappconf

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 Martijn Houtman wrote: Hi, I was browsing on the bbtools site and got interested by this app. Since the development is going on again (great thing btw), I was wondering if this was going to make the bb source, or if it was to be a separated application. The website itself

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:21:17PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:39:16PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1

applying a patch Re: installing patches?

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
if we have foo.patch and a dir called source in our current directory we do this: $ cd source $ patch -p0 ../foo.patch if this fails you can try -p1 or omitting the -p completely. If it still fails you may have a bad patch or one meant for a different version of the source.

Re: bbkeys questions/comments

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
2) Is there any way to open/close the various menus (Workspaces/Icons, Main) through bbkeys? Such a feature would be rather nice. Then again, in BlackBox, you can't navigate menus with the keyboard anyway, so this would only be of benefit to people who use full maximization (like yours

Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 08-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:30:09PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Ok, so if I want to handle it by the style I have to take a look in those files?! Might be a better solution than in .xinitrc because then I don't have to restart X to change

Re: Blackbox Graphics in General

2002-01-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I'm not sure wether my point comes clear; I guess what I'm trying to say is -- graphics does matter, even though we're running diet style. what is blackbox not doing?

Re: 0.62pre2 bugs

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
This reminds me, if you switch between blackbox and wmaker, none of them will put dockapps in the slit (blackbox) or dock (wmaker) and you get lots of dockapps in odd positions. I don't know if this is even possible? the dock or slit works because the windows set their state to withdrawn.

Re: 0.62pre2 bugs

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
A quick check reveals that styles that work OK are: Artwiz, Cthulhain, Nyz, Operation, Outcomes, Rancor, Results, Spiff, TDF, Twice and styles that don't: Flux, Rampage, Shade The behaviour seems stable, i.e. styles that hide the started rxvt window do that always. thanks Wilbert.

Re: Code Commenting

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jan-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 13:11, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 06-Jan-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: How do you folks feel about someone commenting the BB code? xOr has done this a bit for the Window.{cc,hh} files. I agree there should be more

Re: bbpager and toolbar height

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Jan-2002 Johan Ronström wrote: Hello I use the the bbpager and averything works fine. I just have a small problem: When I maximize a window it resizes down to the top of the toolbar (bottom centre) and then it covers half the pager. What I need is either: to higher the toolbar to

Re: bbpager and toolbar height

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I just don't understand why resizing the toolbar font can change the toolbar height and I cannot. frame.height = style-font-ascent + style-font-descent; frame.height is the height of the toolbar. As you can see, it is calculated based on the font specified and not by a setting in the

Re: bbpager and toolbar height

2002-01-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Another option, and it was a request that was made already, is to be able to specify the area of the screen that windows will fill when maximizing. something like: session.screen0.maxmize.left = 0 session.screen0.maxmize.top = 0 session.screen0.maxmize.right = -40

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