Hi Michael,
Michael Weghorn wrote:
> In my opinion (and from own experience at the City of Munich),
> LibreOffice (and other FLOSS software) is often not suitable for many
> large enterprises "as is", so a good way of managing the lifecycle and
> getting issues addressed (i.e. professional
The 'free beer' argument starting to become annoying;-). I'm hearing
lots of self-pitty.
Nobody asks a company to contribute to the LibreOffice code (for free).
Yes, it belongs to a model where you believe in.
If you believe code be open source, while making profit, it's also your
task to come
Hi Thorsten,
On 15/07/2020 15.12, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> Michael Weghorn wrote:
>> In the former case, adding the relevant information (professional
>> support available and encouraged for enterprises) more explicitly to the
>> website or maybe using existing mechanisms to inform the user
On 15/07/2020 15.11, Telesto wrote:
> The 'free beer' argument starting to become annoying;-). I'm hearing
> lots of self-pitty.
> Nobody asks a company to contribute to the LibreOffice code (for free).
> Yes, it belongs to a model where you believe in.
> If you believe code be open source, while
Hi Michael,
Michael Weghorn wrote:
> In the former case, adding the relevant information (professional
> support available and encouraged for enterprises) more explicitly to the
> website or maybe using existing mechanisms to inform the user (like
> mentioning support in the donation/contribution
Hi Michael,
thanks for your reply. :-)
On 13/07/2020 20.32, Michael Meeks wrote:
> On 12/07/2020 02:11, Michael Weghorn wrote:
>> Simplifying and exaggerating a bit, I'd try to sum up the described
>> problem as "There's not enough revenue for ecosystem companies, but
>> those are essential for
Michael Meeks kirjoitti 13.7.2020 klo 21.32:
On 12/07/2020 02:11, Michael Weghorn wrote:
From what I have heard, there's also a tendency in (particularly in
large) organizations to only use products backed by some kind of SLA, so
there is some contractor to contact (or blame) in case of
Hi
Am 13.07.20 um 16:58 schrieb Italo Vignoli:
> we have a peculiar development process which is IMHO rather difficult
> to steer according to the usual marketing process.
To be honest: The part with "from which our product development" was a joke,
knowing the facts as well. ;-)
(btw. the
Hi Michael,
Thanks for engaging here ! =) you write a friendly and helpful summary.
On 12/07/2020 02:11, Michael Weghorn wrote:
> Simplifying and exaggerating a bit, I'd try to sum up the described
> problem as "There's not enough revenue for ecosystem companies, but
> those are
>Is this possible? Based on our development model, I do not think it is
possible. We know that in Bugzilla there are end user requests for new
features which have been sitting there for years, because either there
was no request from the same feature by enterprises willing to pay for
them, and
Hi Italo
Am 13.07.20 um 13:26 schrieb Italo Vignoli:
>> but you're not doing marketing in my sense.
> Thanks for the appreciation as communications professional. By the way
> during my career I have been..and I have a BA in Marketing Management at
> ISTUD in Italy.
>
> Of course, I respect
Hi Uwe,
On 13/07/2020 11:01, Uwe Altmann wrote:
> TLTR?: Become a professional managed organization
I imagine it's not just Italo that has concerns with that =)
> Teach people that LibreOffice is not the gratis version of MS
> Office but a real great idea which they can and shall
On 7/13/20 12:01 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote:
> Therefor look for advice from marketing experts (NOT of sales or PR or
> communication or the like professionals who call themselves "marketing
> expert"!) (sorry Italo, you are undoubtedly a highly qualified communications
> professional, but you're
Hi
sorry by being late on this.
Am 07.07.20 um 22:13 schrieb Michael Meeks:
> Nevertheless there are some big problems currently. Perhaps
> you think you have a neat solution to one of them. I'd love to hear
> about it - but solving or obsessing about just one is unlikely to do
> the job:
Ok,
Hi Michael, all,
to explicitly mention it: While insights I got by working for the City
of Munich certainly played a role in shaping that opinion, whatever I am
writing (and have written) on this topic is "with my volunteer hat on",
i.e. my personal opinion, not necessarily my employer's.
On
On 07.07.20 22:13, Michael Meeks wrote:
> ...
> => so it makes no economic sense at all to invest in
> -Desktop- Libreoffice you will never see a return.
>
> That is manageable - we are investing heavily in creating
> Online and that is going well, and it funds our work on
Hi *,
Michael Meeks wrote:
> For my part - I'd like to try to work with others to
> understand all of the motivations, and to somehow, together chart a
> path towards a better way of marketing and positioning LibreOffice and
> its ecosystem - as Italo has outlined. Many of the above issues
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