At 11:32 PM 7/20/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:54:24PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote:
What I'm trying to come around to: trickle up for good or evil has
been in place seventy years,
In different degrees. The democrats tend to tilt it towards more
progressive taxation, and the
On Sunday 2003-07-20 18:54, Kevin Tarr wrote:
From: Trent Shipley
In the US a huge problem with all 'trickle up' policies is that they
require legislative intervention. Laizie Faire (sp?) economic systems
stabilize with huge income and wealth disparities. In the US a
combination of
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:15:47AM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
The real problem with share the wealth, trickle up programs, besides
the fact that it might be immoral to tax the rich, is that they slow
growth.
Do you have any data to support this? Because the data I've seen shows
exactly the
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John D. Giorgis
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No, we are at war because September 11th caused this President to
recognize
that we had long since been at war in a way that we had not previously
recognized.Moreover, 9/11
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Sorry Nick, but if you can find me someone who thought that the British
reports of Iraqi atempts to acquire uranium in Africa was the lynchpin of
the war argument, then maybe this
History according to W:
Last week, CIA Director George Tenet took responsibility for including
the allegation in Bush's address. Bush said Monday that he wouldn't have
included the uranium allegation if the CIA hadn't cleared it. He then
asserted that the United States had invaded Iraq only after
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 11:40 PM 7/18/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cut the war time crap! We are not under active attack.
Which is why the US government instructed me to to stock a change of
clothes, toiletries, a pillow, and a blanket in my office in case of an
attack?
What
Of course we all know who W blames the holocaust on:
http://www.ffrf.org/news/holocaust.html
I'm no Bush apologizer but this seems to denounce one extreme by taking the
other extreme. Hitler's religious conviction isn't a clear cut as these
authors would try to make it. There's many words one
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From: David Hobby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 09:56 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: History of sodomy laws
Here's part of a New York Times article, covering claims that
strong enforcement of laws against homosexuality first
From: Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course we all know who W blames the holocaust on:
http://www.ffrf.org/news/holocaust.html
I'm no Bush apologizer but this seems to denounce one extreme by taking
the
other extreme. Hitler's religious conviction isn't a clear cut as these
authors would
I think the freedom from religion foundation is a good source.
Rationalist's tend to be. Religious nuts tend not to be.
Well I detected a bias. I'm not saying that Bush's word is the Truth, but
then again I can't say that this source is absolutely unbiased and
critical. IOW, it seems like they
On Monday 2003-07-21 03:57, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:15:47AM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
The real problem with share the wealth, trickle up programs, besides
the fact that it might be immoral to tax the rich, is that they slow
growth.
Do you have any data to support
From: Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think the freedom from religion foundation is a good source.
Rationalist's tend to be. Religious nuts tend not to be.
Well I detected a bias. I'm not saying that Bush's word is the Truth,
but
then again I can't say that this source is absolutely unbiased
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, periods leaning more to trickle down have increased the gap between
rich and poor more than have the trickle up leaning periods.
There you go. That is exactly what needs to be expressed and isn't. At least
not as loud as it should. Instead
No one is free from bias. That would be impossible.
Absolutely. But the question is not whether one can be free of any bias,
but to what extent it colors their evaluations, and to what extent they
want to use facts to support their arguments.
Damon.
Programs that promote variants of the 'Victory Garden'
are gaining steam, as American children are gaining
too much weight.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/931272.asp
...Thats exactly what those like Bryant Terry are
attempting to engineer. Eating healthy is synonymous
with whiteness for some of
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LOVE THROUGH THE EYES OF CHILDREN
A group of professional people posed this question to a group of 4 to 8
year-
olds, What does love mean? The answers they got were broader and deeper
than
anyone could have imagined. See what you think:
- When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Let me give an example of 'phenomena that had been
investigated for
centuries' to no avail, until after the proper
equipment was invented
and the phenomenon was explained scientifically:
blood circulation.
Bad example.
This is a simplified list of the current worst
offenders WRT trans-fat content;
substitutes/alternatives are given for some, but for
now the real answer seems to be -- cut out a lot of
convenience/processed foods.
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/70/81100.htm?printing=true
Debbi
Thank
2003 Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest.
http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2003.htm
Winner
They had but one last remaining night together, so they embraced each
other as tightly as that two-flavor entwined string cheese that is orange
and yellowish-white, the orange probably being a bland
You have been mixing References: headers between this thread and others
and it makes it harder for me to follow.
I always reply to the digest.
I didn't expect that! The message I was replying to previously was about
the habitat, but it referenced a message
Cool air at the axis should be heavier and would try to displace warmer,
less dense air.
This would cause air currents that would speed up heat transfer in the
atmosphere.
I don't think you could expect thermal equilibrium in the scenarios I'm
reading here, but the
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Let me give an example of 'phenomena that had
been
investigated for
centuries' to no avail, until after the proper
equipment was invented
and the phenomenon was explained
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
2003 Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest.
http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2003.htm
Winner
They had but one last remaining night together,
so they embraced each
other as tightly as that two-flavor entwined string
cheese that is orange
Dan wrote:
Well, I've not been posting for a while because I've been overwhelmed with
1) Planning my parents' funerals
2) A heavy work load
3) Preparing for my wife's operation.
But, I've got a bit of time now, so I'll try to catch up on posts I owe an
answer to.
I hope you've recovered from the
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:40:07PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hmm, what about astronomy? Centuries of looking at the skies, yet
quasars/pulsars weren't discovered until the 60's
Not a good example. If we had a pulsar right next to us, and we studied
it for decades, but never noticed that
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:01:20PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hey! What about the astronomy example I gave in my first post this
thread:
And for an even longer timeframe from observance to 'scientific
revision,' look at the change from an Earth-centered to a sun-centered
system! :)
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Subject: Re: Science and knowledge
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:01:20PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hey! What about the astronomy example I gave
As our intrepid young hero first looked about his new school's lodgings, his
eyes darted about to take in the undersized and pitted desktop, the single
chair with only three out of four footpads, the totally inadequate drawer space,
the non existent but brochure promised overhead bookshelf,
Damon wrote:
There's many words one can use to describe
Hitler, but a devout Catholic is not one of them.
Hitler was closer to newageism than to monotheism. The
theological part of nazism was very pagan-oriented. Even
the Aryan and Swastika things are a deturpation of Hinduism,
and not of
Deborah Harrell wrote:
...Naomi Neufeld, a pediatric endocrinologist in Los
Angeles, recalls that in 1986, when she had just
started a non-profit weight-control program called
KidShape, obesity was considered primarily a cosmetic
problem that occurred infrequently among children.
Today she
Maybe you think so. I lived two blocks north of the
World Trade Center site for a year. Let's just say
that I have less than no sympathy for any such view.
Let's see how many New Yorkers think we're not at war.
How many of the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
How many diplomats
In a message dated 7/19/2003 9:35:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Frankly, Ray, I think that I'm showing a lot more
respect for people on the list who disagree with me
than most of the people on this list are showing to
me. The difference is that I'm in the minority,
nd becouse of that you are mixing facts as if they were related when they are
not.
It is an old boys club writ on a global
scale.
No backing for this. just becouse the above is true (if it is) does not mean
that they are not doing what is right when it comes to forign policy.
I
The purpose of science is not to help us understand reality; it is not
about the truth. Indeed, one of my favorite statements about science is
the most important development in the history of science is when it was
decided that it wasn't about the truth.
I would argue that most scientists
In a message dated 7/19/2003 7:13:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
what would you have istead, state capitalism?
How about a rationale tax policy? One that stimulates the economy by putting money in
the hands that those who will spend it. How about a rationale
In a message dated 7/20/2003 11:34:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
At 11:10 PM 7/18/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This actually a JDG
style arguement. The things that conservatives and
replubicans do are right and moral because republicans are right and
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Subject: Re: Science and knowledge
The purpose of science is not to help us understand reality; it is not
about the truth. Indeed, one of my favorite
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