Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 2:30AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 0:53, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Sep 2006, at 10:10PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Sep 2006 at 21:57, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Sep 2006, at 9:34PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: No, the issue is that some people are

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:03AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Interesting. Why do you suppose you feel that way? Oh, I suppose I feel that way. Eliza Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Theists cannot be

Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
'Faith school' - hah! Why mince words - let's call it what it is, a murder school! And exactly typical of the filthy evil of religion. http://tinyurl.com/fpxc7 Anti-terrorist police were last night searching a Muslim school at the centre of an investigation into terrorist training camps

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:54, William T Goodall wrote: 'Faith school' - hah! Why mince words - let's call it what it is, a murder school! And exactly typical of the filthy evil of religion. And let's call you a potential murder, since you follow the faith of militant atheism yourself... 14 men

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:31, William T Goodall wrote: Perhaps if you read the origional again? I gave plenty of evidence, which starts with the fact that they operate as whatever sort of organisation better suits the area. They not a religion, they are a form of organised crime (especially in

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:54, William T Goodall wrote: 'Faith school' - hah! Why mince words - let's call it what it is, a murder school! And exactly typical of the filthy evil of religion. And let's call you a potential murder, since you follow the faith of militant

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:07PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:31, William T Goodall wrote: Perhaps if you read the origional again? I gave plenty of evidence, which starts with the fact that they operate as whatever sort of organisation better suits the area. They not a religion, they

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:32PM, David Hobby wrote: Look, I teach at a real school. The phrase Faith school already sounds pretty bad to me, as it indicates that nothing of substance is taught. Maru. Apart from bomb-making obviously. God loves an explosion Maru -- William T Goodall Mail :

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:32PM, David Hobby wrote: Look, I teach at a real school. The phrase Faith school already sounds pretty bad to me, as it indicates that nothing of substance is taught. Maru. Apart from bomb-making obviously. I figured that Bomb Making would

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries... It's common knowledge. There have been hundreds of news stories about the Catholic Church covering up

RE: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Dan Minette
Merging several posts on this subject: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAT MATHEWS Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:49 PM To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Religious freedom TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
The point is, If I presented a paper that, FREX, the Fyrd was a common element of the Anglo-norman army as common knowledge, I can guarantee I wouldn't make it too far. No, if you're going to make blanket statements, you should be prepared to back it up. I would want to see REAL evidence,

Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Religious freedom]

2006-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:05 AM, William T Goodall wrote: And yes, OSX is marvelous. Its merest bootlace, Windows is not worthy to kiss. - David Brin With all the things that you and I have to disagree about, it is nice that we have this in common. Dave

Re: To the Back of the Bus!

2006-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 1, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Aug 26, 2006, at 11:54 PM, Dave Land wrote: Apparently, after screening and re-screening that couple of milliseconds of Janet Jackson's nipple at the 2004 Superbowl for hours on end, the geeks at the FCC have lost all sense of

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:28PM, Dan Minette wrote: Merging several posts on this subject: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAT MATHEWS TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several times over and we're

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:37PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is, If I presented a paper that, FREX, the Fyrd was a common element of the Anglo-norman army as common knowledge, I can guarantee I wouldn't make it too far. But I'm not presenting a paper. And since it is common knowledge

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:20 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:49:52 -0700, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several times over and we're getting into battling

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries... It's common knowledge. There have been hundreds of

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:09PM, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 3, 2006, at 12:18 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 7:55PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries... It's

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
Let's put it this way: I flatly reject that it is common knowledge since I have NEVER heard of a centuries old Catholic Pedophile Ring. Irregardless, saying its common knowledge in no way makes it true. Let me be more blunt then: William, I think your statement is bull and I'm calling you out

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 21:45, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 8:28PM, Dan Minette wrote: IMHO, that's not surprising when people are discussing sets of presuppositionsespecially when one of the people is convinced that his own set is Truth. I'm glad you're prepared to

unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 12:51, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:05 AM, William T Goodall wrote: And yes, OSX is marvelous. Its merest bootlace, Windows is not worthy to kiss. - David Brin With all the things that you and I have to disagree about, it is nice that we have this in

RE: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:01 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2) As another example, you seem to indicate that we should be

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's put it this way: I flatly reject that it is common knowledge since I have NEVER heard of a centuries old Catholic Pedophile Ring. Irregardless, saying its common knowledge in no way makes it true. Let me be more blunt then:

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point? It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of spelling mistakes. Good spelling is polite Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web :

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
Oh, I had no real expectation that you would respond in any meaningful way, but I could not let such a statement of intellectual vacuum lay unchallenged. Since so far you are the only one making a statement of such belief, I can rest assured that there is no need to prove otherwise.

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise we'll just have to differ on the matter. Just to

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread John W Redelfs
On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested in seeing William provide evidence that the Catholic Church has been running a pedophile ring for centuries... There are many things that are true for which no evidence can be produced. In fact, I would suggest that

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:03PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I had no real expectation that you would respond in any meaningful way, but I could not let such a statement of intellectual vacuum lay unchallenged. Since so far you are the only one making a statement of such belief, I can rest

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 17:19, William T Goodall wrote: I doubt that the heads of most religions believe. These are intelligent college educated people after all. Belief is what they use to gull money and power from the ignorant and superstitious people that they prey on. There's only one

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: I do dual-boot windows 2k and linux, but I don't feel that Linux is ready for most home users, unlike projects like OpenOffice, which I've recommended for some years... it's a shame that I can't move away entirely because of some of the more arcane Excel spreadsheets

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the Catholic Church is the largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and they've been covering that up for centuries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Dan posted a very clear analysis here during the

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
WTG wrote: And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point? It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of spelling mistakes. Thta's rude, William. Yuo can't bunr peopel at the steak for things they are born with! Ablerto Monteiro

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread John W Redelfs
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Faith school' - hah! Why mince words - let's call it what it is, a murder school! And exactly typical of the filthy evil of religion. http://tinyurl.com/fpxc7 I've been wracking my brain to figure out who it is that you remind me of. It

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
John, you are a (insert inflammitory accusation here) . I do not need evidence of this, because I cannot get the evidence I need to prove it. Nonetheless, because I believe it to be so, must MAKE it so. Damon, who does not ACTUALLY believe John is a murderer, etc, but is merely trying to make

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
If you have no intention of pursuing this line of thought, why are you continuing to post on it? Your other post only illustrates you want to make conclusions based on belief, not on evidence. Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the Catholic Church is the largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and they've been covering that up for centuries. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement.

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:33PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have no intention of pursuing this line of thought, why are you continuing to post on it? I'll stop right now! Your other post only illustrates you want to make conclusions based on belief, not on evidence. You have

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:23PM, John W Redelfs wrote: On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the Church's ongoing efforts to cover up the issue any lack of published scandal prior to the well-known present day cases can't show that molestation wasn't going on then too. I

Aliens Arrested at Roswell

2006-09-03 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/060829roswell.htm -- Mauro Diotallevi Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now. -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: Dan posted a very clear analysis here during the height of the recent pedophilia scandal that showed that rates of pedophilia among Catholic priests was no higher than in the general population at large, and I seem recall reading

Manners (was Re: Religious freedom)

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society. However a number of people (you know who you are and I won't embarrass you by quoting

They are Here

2006-09-03 Thread Nick Arnett
We went to the San Jose Flea Market today... a large affair, with all sorts of vendors... including a photogaphy studio... where They Have Appeared. I got a picture with my camera phone. And dang it, they're not teal. http://www.mccmedia.com/pink_unicorn/ Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL

Re: Manners (was Re: Religious freedom)

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 0:41, William T Goodall wrote: It's nice that this topic has attracted some interest and that people are giving some thought to the sickening poisonous evil filth of religion and the ghastly damage it causes individuals and society. No, people are calling you a atheist

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: And no, I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Your point? It's harder to read your incoherent babbling when it's full of spelling mistakes. That's nice. I allready know you can't be

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out.

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:45PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: And I'm going to keep on using windows purely because it's what the programs I use run on, and the Mac's charge a stiff premium for their hardware. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_hi_te/tech_test_mac_pro_3 The recently released Mac

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:02, William T Goodall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make for comparison. And without similar options for warranty, etc. In the UK, the difference for someone

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread dcaa
More to the point, pointing out spelling mistakes and bad grammer is an indication you have nothing better to say... Damon, posting from his Blackberry, where I can ONLY top post... Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 12:58AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote: Good spelling is polite Maru Not criticising people for disabilities is polite, as well. But given the propaganda you spew, I can't expect politeness from you. I'm being far politer to you

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:15AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More to the point, pointing out spelling mistakes and bad grammer is an indication you have nothing better to say... Some posts have nothing in them worth replying to. Both my parents were teachers Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 12:58AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:00, William T Goodall wrote: Good spelling is polite Maru Not criticising people for disabilities is polite, as well. But given the propaganda you spew, I can't

Religious Freedom the junk mail box

2006-09-03 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I have started deleting every post headed religious freedom after sampling the endless debate and the level of debate. (You're another!) Two of them just showed up in my junk mail box. Dave Land and William Goodall. TIME Gentlemen! http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:14AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:02, William T Goodall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make for comparison. And without similar options for

Re: They are Here

2006-09-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:46 PM Sunday 9/3/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: We went to the San Jose Flea Market today... a large affair, with all sorts of vendors... including a photogaphy studio... where They Have Appeared. I got a picture with my camera phone. And dang it, they're not teal. They could be in the

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:33 PM Sunday 9/3/2006, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 11:19PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the Catholic Church is the largest pedophile ring in the world. That's pretty criminal and they've been covering that up for

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:12 PM Sunday 9/3/2006, David Hobby wrote: William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:32PM, David Hobby wrote: Look, I teach at a real school. The phrase Faith school already sounds pretty bad to me, as it indicates that nothing of substance is taught. Maru. Apart from bomb-making

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:33, William T Goodall wrote: In the UK, the difference for someone like me who builds my own is in the region of 60% more expensive for the mac in raw performance terms, and I cannot get a base spec Mac which suits me as a gamer. So by non-technophile you don't mean

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:28AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote: I'm being far politer to you than all the careless educators who couldn't be bothered to teach you the basics of thinking and writing because you had a handicap. Your basic lack of knowledge

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:27, William T Goodall wrote: Both my parents were teachers Maru Shame they didn't teach you the value of tolerence. AndrewC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:51, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 1:28AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:22, William T Goodall wrote: I'm being far politer to you than all the careless educators who couldn't be bothered to teach you the basics of thinking and writing

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make for comparison. And without similar options for warranty, etc. Here in Brazil it's even worse. A Mac costs about twice as

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/09/2006, at 2:58 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 2:27AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make for comparison. And without similar options for

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 2:49, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 2:27AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make

Roots of evil (was Re: Religious freedom)

2006-09-03 Thread Nick Arnett
Perhaps inspired by today's pink unicorn sighting, allow me mumble a bit about evil and ethics (not just a county in England, as Tom Holt says). When I arrived at Kenyon College a couple of decades ago for my freshman year, one of the rites of passage was a talk by the provost, whose name I wish

RE: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 8:44 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Religious freedom On 04/09/2006, at 2:58 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:08, William

Re: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

2006-09-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/09/2006, at 6:41 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Further, ID has very little to do with belief that G-d created the universe... ...apart from all the major ID spokespeople have said at various times that the designer is God, and a number of them are YECs who were convinced that

RE: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

2006-09-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:36 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design The conflict is between people who think science

Re: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Sep 2006 at 5:36, Charlie Bell wrote: On 02/09/2006, at 6:41 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Further, ID has very little to do with belief that G-d created the universe... ...apart from all the major ID spokespeople have said at various times that the designer is God, and a

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 3, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 2:49, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 2:27AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 20:01, Dave Land wrote: On the contrary, there may well be better words for it, such as better informed about the current state of the Macintosh line than you seem to be. Or, not just shooting his mouth off without being in possession of the facts. Okay, you're supporting

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-03 Thread maru dubshinki
On 9/3/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 2:27AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: A low-end Mac Pro will cost you $2,124 compared with $3,071 for a In America. For one specific model. And with a very expensive Windows PC make

Congrats, Charlie and Claire...

2006-09-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Just wanted to add my belated felicitations. I hope you're enjoying your honeymoon in Cyprus. May you have a long and exceedingly happy marriage! -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread maru dubshinki
On 9/3/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 1:33, William T Goodall wrote: In the UK, the difference for someone like me who builds my own is in the region of 60% more expensive for the mac in raw performance terms, and I cannot get a base spec Mac which suits me

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread maru dubshinki
On 9/2/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's just the best link again: http://www.xenu.net And you know who fights them? Not your precious atheists, it's Christians and Jews. AndrewC Really. So Keith Henson is not an atheist? I'd be surprised to learn that. ~maru

Re: unholy OS wars (was Re: history is evil, why it must be eradicated)

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:30, maru dubshinki wrote: Could you elaborate on this? I'm kind of curious since I don't think computer building has been discussed on list, and I've been contemplating building a PC for some time now (following the template Not really - it's a catch 22, I'm not buying

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread maru dubshinki
On 9/2/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Sep 2006, at 11:49PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/2/06, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TIME! Everything's been repeated - asserted, not debated - several times over and we're getting into battling assertions now with ad hominem

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Sep 2006 at 23:38, maru dubshinki wrote: On 9/2/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's just the best link again: http://www.xenu.net And you know who fights them? Not your precious atheists, it's Christians and Jews. AndrewC Really. So Keith Henson is not

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Maru Dubshinki wrote: Clearly that the pink unicorn is actually an Invisible Pink Unicorn, as no one can see it. It surprised me that so many of you believe in this Pink Unicorn Myth. The ammount of people that believe in this is a strong evidence that They(tm) didn't disable the Orbital Mind

RE: They are Here

2006-09-03 Thread Ritu
Nick Arnett wrote: We went to the San Jose Flea Market today... a large affair, with all sorts of vendors... including a photogaphy studio... where They Have Appeared. I got a picture with my camera phone. And dang it, they're not teal. http://www.mccmedia.com/pink_unicorn/ Sigh. No,

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: ... Your basic lack of knowledge about dyslexia is glaring. It is not something which can be overcome by an educator. It is a literal perceptile gap on the part of the dyslexic person. Andrew-- Sorry about my Scientototology joke a couple days ago. On the other hand,

re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... Again, per my last email absolute rubbish. Scientology is a creed, a UFO cult set up to milk the members of cash. It is a business, not a religion. If I could step in here, I think this is part of William's point. From the outside, it's hard to tell one group that

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise we'll just have to differ on

Re: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

2006-09-03 Thread Charlie Bell
I don't know if you know who Billy Graham is, Charlie. He's the most famous American evangelical preacher of the last 50 years. ...and I've seen him evangelise. A friend of mine is sending me an email quoting Billy stating that evolution and Christianity are fully compatible He