Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:26 PM Monday 2/9/2009, Dave Land wrote: On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-10 Thread Nick Arnett
mathew...@msn.com wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global conspiracies are un-doable given the inability to herd all those cats. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-10 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:26 PM Monday 2/9/2009, Dave Land wrote: On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global conspiracies are un-doable given the inability

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-07 Thread Dave Land
to school when we talked about it Friday). Dave On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global conspiracies are un-doable given the inability to herd

Re: The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:53 AM Friday 2/6/2009, Pat Mathews wrote: http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global conspiracies are un-doable given the inability to herd all those cats. I was disappointed that the EDS

The trouble with conspiracy theories

2009-02-06 Thread Pat Mathews
http://counterknowledge.com/2009/02/the-trouble-with-conspiracy-theories/ Basic thesis: little conspiracies exist all over the place. Global conspiracies are un-doable given the inability to herd all those cats. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com

Conspiracy theories

2008-08-26 Thread David Brin
The vital thing about that show was that it was the only piece of mass media I ever saw that had the guts to fight back against dismal conspiracy theories. ONLY in that episode do you learn that LH Oswald was an expert Marine marksman, that he had stalked an American general and very likely

Re: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/07/2008, at 2:20 PM, Dan M wrote: As I have said before, the assertion that the USA is the world's engineroom is no longer true. It certainly isn't true as it was 8 years ago, but economists are debating how tied the world is to the spending of the US on credit cards (and their

RE: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan M wrote: The real question for me is what happens with China if/when US purchases from China start to fall. Civil war. I said that years ago. BTW, I am glad that the nigerians contributed this week to save the globe, and oil prices rose again. Alberto Cassandra Monteiro

Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann
and there is another major terrorist attack in the u.s. before november). personally, i don't think bush/cheney know what they are doing. if i did i would have to subscribe to one of the conspiracy theories: http://www.popmatters.com/features/021227-conspiracy.shtml jon

Re: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Lance A. Brown
they get lucky and there is another major terrorist attack in the u.s. before november). personally, i don't think bush/cheney know what they are doing. if i did i would have to subscribe to one of the conspiracy theories: http://www.popmatters.com/features/021227-conspiracy.shtml I think

Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann
have to subscribe to one of the conspiracy theories: http://www.popmatters.com/features/021227-conspiracy.shtml jon I think they no exactly what they are doing: Trying to shovel as much money into their friend's pockets as possible, and/or trying to bring about the Dominionist's desire

RE: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Louis Mann Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:10 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion you are right about bushco using his presidency to enrich his cronies, lance, but i doubt he

Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Jon Louis Mann
you are right about bush-co using his presidency to enrich his cronies, lance, but i doubt he comprehends what an enormous deleterious effect his policies have had on the global economy. it is costing trillions so halliburton and others can make billions. I'm not quite sure how that

Re: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Dan M wrote: So, as much as I consider GWB a bumbling idiot, I don't think that every mess is his fault. Theoretically I agree, but it is hard to think of any mess that he *hasn't* had his fingers in during the last 7.5 years. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL

Re: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote: you can't deny that terrorism is on the rise as a result of bush's policies, (...) Hmmm... Not in my backyard... The FARC (in Colombia, which, geographilly, are probably closer to you than to me) are almost dead. With them, the last terrorist group in South America

Re: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/07/2008, at 4:10 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: you are right about bushco using his presidency to enrich his cronies, lance, but i doubt he comprehends what an enormous deleterious effect his policies have had on the global economy. The global economy is still growing at 4%. As I have

RE: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Dan M
no one is saying that EVERY mess is the idiot's fault, but his policies have had a catastophic effect, and not just the price of oil. although the initial invasion of iraq did greatly reduce the production of oil or some time. i don't think iraq has recovered to pre-war production levels,

RE: Conspiracy theories

2008-07-28 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:27 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Conspiracy theories On 29/07/2008, at 4:10 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: you are right

conspiracy theories [was Fake Sci-Fi Heroics 1979-1980]

2007-04-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert Seeberger wrote If we accept this story as factual, not only in the general sense, but in it's particulars; then I believe it has to effect the way we filter conspiracy theories. Yes. Clearly, in a police state, the only way to cause change unwanted by the tyranny

RE: conspiracy theories [was Fake Sci-Fi Heroics 1979-1980]

2007-04-29 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Chassell Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:20 PM To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: conspiracy theories [was Fake Sci-Fi Heroics 1979-1980] On the other side, a person such as David Brin

Re: Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-24 Thread Keith Henson
At 12:00 PM 4/24/2007 -0700, Leonard Matusik wrote: snip Right Sport! I really enjoyed Small is Beautifull by ef Schumacher, myself Ah, no. This involves structures far larger than anything human have yet built. Google 2000 tonnes space elevator and take the first link. Keith Henson

Re: Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-23 Thread Leonard Matusik
Right Sport! I really enjoyed Small is Beautifull by ef Schumacher, myself --- Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:00 PM 4/17/2007 -0700, jon louis mann wrote: but most of all, this planet can not sustain world wide industrialization. I agree the world would be a sorry place if

conspiracy theories

2007-04-18 Thread jon louis mann
the internet is full of hoaxes and i am curious why people go to so much effort. most arguments, pro or con, have an agenda and i just don't trust their conclusions... - jlm I don't know. I wonder if the guys who made Loose Change either a) honestly believe their crap or b) are con-men

Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-17 Thread Keith Henson
At 12:00 PM 4/17/2007 -0700, jon louis mann wrote: but most of all, this planet can not sustain world wide industrialization. I agree the world would be a sorry place if it could be done at all given current technology. But there are levels of technology--not ruled out by science--that could

Re: Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-17 Thread jon louis mann
but most of all, this planet can not sustain world wide industrialization. jon mann I agree the world would be a sorry place if it could be done at all given current technology. But there are levels of technology--not ruled out by science--that could sustain world wide industrialization. The

conspiracy theories

2007-04-16 Thread jon louis mann
There are a number of 9/11 conspiracy theories, including the Loose Change documentary and various links proliferating on the net. I haven't been able to corroborate any of these on snopes.com, or even ascertain if any are hoaxes. I suspect many are disinformation scenarios being spread

RE: conspiracy theories

2007-04-16 Thread Horn, John
On Behalf Of jon louis mann There are a number of 9/11 conspiracy theories, including the Loose Change documentary and various links proliferating on the net. I haven't been able to corroborate any of these on snopes.com, or even ascertain if any are hoaxes. Take a look at the 9-11

conspiracy theories

2007-04-16 Thread jon louis mann
i missed the previous discussion, sorry to bring it up, again. i guess i didn't make it clear that i am a skeptic of most of these theories and that the bush administration is too incompetent to pull it off. the internet is full of hoaxes and i am curious why people go to so much effort. most