On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>> It *can* be evil, there are myriad times when it *is* evil, but your
>> statement that religion *is* evil is functionally equivalent to
>> saying
>> that, since some people are anaphylactically allergic to shellfish,
>> all shellfish are le
At 05:47 PM Wednesday 12/5/2007, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
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> >
> > On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And people who think like that are dangerous to th
On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
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> On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and
>>> others.
>>> Hence religion is evil.
>>
>> No more nor l
On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
>>
>>> Nick said:
>>>
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism
about
science
and good science.
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
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> On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
>
>> Nick said:
>>
>>> I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
>>> science
>>> and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
>>> science
>>> i
> Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> > There are iatrogenic illnesses, those that are
> > caused by
> > the healer. I have no doubt that there are
> > parallels in religion, but just
> > as we don't shut down hospitals because, for
> William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2922875820071129
> DALLAS (Reuters Life!) - More Americans believe in a
> literal hell and
> the devil than Darwin's theory of evolution,
> according to a new Harris poll...
Lookit th' evydents,
On 05/12/2007, at 8:19 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007 12:32 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
>> evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
>
>
> I think this confuses a belief of certain religions with
On 05/12/2007, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007 12:47 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> If it's true scepticism, and not denialism. The US is a leader of
>> science in spite of it's religiosity, not because of it.
>
>
> It seems far more likely to me that the same
On Dec 4, 2007 12:32 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
> evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
I think this confuses a belief of certain religions with the general meaning
of religion. Religions are belief sy
On Dec 4, 2007 12:47 PM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If it's true scepticism, and not denialism. The US is a leader of
> science in spite of it's religiosity, not because of it.
It seems far more likely to me that the same freedoms that allow wacky
religious ideas (which is what
On 4 Dec 2007, at 20:32, Charlie Bell wrote:
>
> On 05/12/2007, at 4:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>>
>> And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and
>> others.
>> Hence religion is evil.
>
> I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
> evil by foster
On 04/12/2007, at 11:03 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
>
> I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
> science
> and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
> science
> is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may leap
> to the
>
On 05/12/2007, at 4:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>
> And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and others.
> Hence religion is evil.
I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
Charlie
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On 4 Dec 2007, at 19:44, Dave Land wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
>
>> On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
>>
>>> Nick said:
>>>
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism
about
science
and good science. The count
On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
>
>> Nick said:
>>
>>> I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
>>> science
>>> and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
>>> science
>>> is t
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
> Nick said:
>
>> I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
>> science
>> and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
>> science
>> is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may lea
Nick said:
> I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
> science
> and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
> science
> is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may leap
> to the
> conclusion that skepticism about scie
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> And by the way, I left you an opening with the hospital metaphor,
> but you
> didn't grab it. There are iatrogenic illnesses, those that are
> caused by
> the healer. I have no doubt that there are parallels in religion,
> but just
> as we d
On Dec 3, 2007 5:09 PM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The theory is that religion causes evil by clouding minds. That's the
> causality. The correlation is there. QED.
It's hardly logical to state your premise and the correlation and claim that
you've proved something. But
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:29 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
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> On 4 Dec 2007, at 01:12, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
>>
>>> In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
>>> offer
>>> this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can
On 4 Dec 2007, at 01:12, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
>
>> In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
>> offer
>> this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can stomach the
>> subject) come
>> up with external causalities wh
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
> offer
> this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can stomach the
> subject) come
> up with external causalities when religion and evil co-occur? If
> we're
> going t
On 4 Dec 2007, at 00:03, Nick Arnett wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 11:02 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> This demonstrates that skepticism leads to better science, right?
>>
>
>>
>> You're arguing that evolution is bad science?
>
>
> No.
>
> I'm pointing out that the
On Dec 3, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> Probably because they watch the evening news where most of the people
> they see in the stories behave like they follow the devil or like
> non-GEICO cavemen . . .
Or possibly they don't believe there's a difference.
--
Warren Ockrassa
B
On Dec 3, 2007 11:02 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > This demonstrates that skepticism leads to better science, right?
>
>
> You're arguing that evolution is bad science?
No.
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about science
and good scienc
Probably because they watch the evening news where most of the people
they see in the stories behave like they follow the devil or like
non-GEICO cavemen . . .
-- Ronn! :)
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On 3 Dec 2007, at 16:04, Nick Arnett wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 1:41 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Darwin's theory of evolution met a far more skeptical audience which
>> might surprise some outsiders as the United States is renowned for
>> its
>> excellence in scien
On Dec 3, 2007 1:41 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2922875820071129
>
>
>
> The poll of 2,455 U.S. adults from Nov 7 to 13 found that 82 percent
> of those surveyed believed in God, a figure unchanged since the
> question was aske
http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2922875820071129
"Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:53pm GMT
By Ed Stoddard
DALLAS (Reuters Life!) - More Americans believe in a literal hell and
the devil than Darwin's theory of evolution, according to a new Harris
poll released on Thursday.
It is the late
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