Uplift Urbane Legend #10

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
Brids, birds, birds and boids. The Clan of the Gubru Ot'ahh OOT-ahh OO sound number 1 Kooyio KOO-eeooOO sound number 2 Gooksyu GOOK-seeooOO sound #3 Gubru

Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Ticia Luengo
Am I reading this right? This guy works up to 80 hr a week and *still* has time to read a ton of books, watch games and movies, worry about being single in NY, and write such long and elaborate emails from the office at 9.30 pm??? flabbergasted and getting *nothing* done on her fortnightly

Scouted: Amazing New View of the Sun

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: http://www.msnbc.com/news/834647.asp?cp1=1 Amazing new view of the sun Most detailed ever photos reveal dark heart of sunspots By Robert Roy Britt SPACE.COM Nov. 13 — The most detailed pictures ever taken of the sun reveal the insides of striking snake-like filaments that reach from

Scouted: Tips on watching the Leonids

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/leonids_tips_021107-1.html Excerpt (It's a long article!): 10 Tips to Maximize Your View of the Leonid Meteor Shower By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer posted: 07:00 am ET 07 November 2002 Robert Lunsford is almost guaranteed to see two predicted bursts of

Re: Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:26:51PM +0100, Ticia Luengo wrote: Am I reading this right? This guy works up to 80 hr a week and *still* has time to read a ton of books, watch games and movies, worry about being single in NY, and write such long and elaborate emails from the office at 9.30 pm???

Fwd: Imagine His Surprise...

2002-11-15 Thread by way of Robert Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 11/12/2002 1:38:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the best ridiculous superhero power I've heard of (and I'm not quite sure who came up with this one) is the ability to change someone else's internal soundtrack. So if you get stuck on, say, a David

Re: Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:08 15-11-2002 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: If you sleep 8 hours per 24 hour period, then you have 112 waking hours per week. If you work 80 hours per week, that leaves 32 hours of non-work time per week. If you think about it, you can do a lot in 32 hours. Non-work time is not the same as

Re: Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Ticia Luengo wrote: Am I reading this right? This guy works up to 80 hr a week and *still* has time to read a ton of books, watch games and movies, worry about being single in NY, and write such long and elaborate emails from the office at 9.30 pm??? flabbergasted and getting *nothing*

Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
Earth is in Galaxy Two. Galaxy Two is the new name for the lost and then refound Galaxy Seven. Galaxy Seven was not part of the Galactic Civilization from 150 million years ago to 41 million years ago. The age of the dinosaurs on Earth started 205 million years ago, after the first Gronin

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Ticia Luengo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I reading this right? This guy works up to 80 hr a week and *still* has time to read a ton of books, watch games and movies, worry about being single in NY, and write such long and elaborate emails from the office at 9.30 pm???

Re: Fwd: Imagine His Surprise...

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Gabriel
In a message dated 11/12/2002 1:38:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dr. Zim writes: I think the best ridiculous superhero power I've heard of (and I'm not quite sure who came up with this one) is the ability to change someone else's internal soundtrack. So if you get stuck on, say, a David Lee Roth

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:14 15-11-2002 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: That adds up to 67.5 hours at the office That just cannot be healthy. Ther are people in this country too that have a schedule not unlike yours -- but those are the kind of people who have an ulcer by the time they turn 40, and have an heart

the evil of corporations

2002-11-15 Thread The Fool
http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2002//web-science-11-13-02.asp More sites targeted for shutdown BY William Matthews Nov. 13, 2002 Having persuaded the Energy Department to pull the plug on PubScience, a Web site that offered free access to scientific and technical articles,

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Matt Grimaldi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If our good Dr. Brin is ever going explore these possibilities, we'll just have to wait for the Siqul. William Taylor -- Gillian wondered about the dinosaurs possibly being galactic citizens, or being uplifted in _Startide Rising_. Of

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/02 8:54:51 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If our good Dr. Brin is ever going explore these possibilities, we'll just have to wait for the Siqul. William Taylor -- Gillian wondered about the dinosaurs possibly

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
5 figures a month would mean a minimum of $120K a year, right? I thought that was not all that unusual at McKinsey. Now that I know that, I guess I should have more sympathy for McKinsey employees :-) Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I am the lowest of the low here... Gautam

Wages Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 07:14 15-11-2002 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: I don't get overtime, Jeroen, so that doesn't help much :-) Wow, your salary is *that* high? It is pretty much standard over here that in certain jobs (typically in higher management) you do not get paid overtime,

Re: Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Well, having been on both sides, the one where I did 70+ hours a week and the one being a housewife with my own schedule, I can safely say, that the busier you are, the more you get done. Somehow you become very good at doing things on the run, increasing efficiency, matching scedules, fitting

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:58 15-11-2002 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: 5 figures a month would mean a minimum of $120K a year, right? I thought that was not all that unusual at McKinsey. Now that I know that, I guess I should have more sympathy for McKinsey employees :-) Well, I am the lowest of the low here...

Ancient Mickey Mouse Found!

2002-11-15 Thread Horn, John
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/11/15/offbeat.malta.fresco/index.html Maybe Disney *doesn't* hold the copyright to Mickey Mouse, after all... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: (Of course, that means her husband must also abstain from sex for 11 of ~30 days - I'm not sure how realistic that is.): If they've been married for more than a couple years, and/or if they already have some kids, its *very,

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:58 15-11-2002 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: 5 figures a month would mean a minimum of $120K a year, right? I thought that was not all that unusual at McKinsey. Now that I know that, I guess I should have more sympathy for McKinsey employees :-) Well,

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:59 15-11-2002 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: More that women, generally speaking, have less 'drive' than men, and so - biologically speaking - have less difficulty with abstinence (although most women do have several days of their cycle where their drive may match/exceed the average

[Recipe] Chocolate cheese cake, Re: Grocery Shopping

2002-11-15 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Hey, Julia, pt ... don't tell Jeroen but I've got a recipe for chocolate no bake cheesecake. Is that OK with you? (Haven't got a clue as to what Oreo is.) But I've got a recipe that is dead easy to make. Filling: Use good quality whipped wip cream (maybe add something to keep it stable, dr.

Re: Contraception and Wedding Nights Re: science Vs religion

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:08 09-11-2002 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. Speaking of bathroom humour: http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/11/14/offbeat.sweden.toilet.reut/index.html Customer: Fast-food, toilets don't mix Toilet humor STOCKHOLM, Sweden (Reuters) -- A

Scouted: Tiny sea horses given protected status

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/14/seahorses.protect.reut/index.html Excerpt: Tiny sea horses given protected status Thursday, November 14, 2002 Posted: 1:19 PM EST (1819 GMT) SANTIAGO, Chile (Reuters) -- The tiny sea horse briefly stole the spotlight at a U.N. meeting in Chile this

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William Taylor wrote: And we all have to wait at least a year for the next Uplift story. And then another two years after that for another. I've seen messages on sf.written stating that Orson Scott Card is milking his Ender series. I've never seen the same said for Uplift. The real problem

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-15 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Each person in the US is governed at both the state and federal level. Lucky Bastards :-) In Brazil, we are g*verned at federal, state and municipal [the polis, or city] level. Which means that things that must be done aren't, and taxes are

Re: Gautam's energy levels

2002-11-15 Thread K. Feete
Erik Rueter wrote: 5 figures a month would mean a minimum of $120K a year, right? I thought that was not all that unusual at McKinsey. Now that I know that, I guess I should have more sympathy for McKinsey employees :-) Ye gods, but that is an obscene amount of money. Brings up a point of

Washington Cathedral question.

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
Well, I could send an email to their site, but I'd probably look more like a terrorist than an author. And we do have a fairly local list member. How is the Washington Cathedral heated? Are there floor vents or any wall vents? Is there any interior sculpture, and is it floor level or also

RE: You Are a Suspect

2002-11-15 Thread Horn, John
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Medievalbk;aol.com] Yup. I did not retain that. I was still tripping out that I had read through all three novels and didn't catch all of the Lord of the Rings references until the second time through. Lord of the Rings references? - jmh

Re: Gautam's energy levels

2002-11-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Erik Rueter wrote: 5 figures a month would mean a minimum of $120K a year, right? I thought that was not all that unusual at McKinsey. Now that I know that, I guess I should have more sympathy for McKinsey employees :-) Ye gods, but that is an obscene amount of money. Brings up a

Tolkein tribute. Was: Re: You Are a Suspect

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/2002 2:19:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lord of the Rings references? Oh my oh my oh my. The easiest one is where Herbie is offered to the Old Ones and they reply, Do not temp us! The Ur are specifically named for the Urukhai. This

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/2002 2:22:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen messages on sf.written stating that Orson Scott Card is milking his Ender series. I've never seen the same said for Uplift. The real problem is: does He want to spend the rest of His

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You don't get overtime for almost any profession in the US, so far as I know. My parents (a physicist and an engineer) don't either. When I was doing locum tenens (sort of a Kelly Girl doctor, i.e. via an agency) I did get overtime for hours

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Colin Powell President Kevin T. *Would he win the state races, the primaries? I don't think even at state levels there would be too much obvious racism.

Re: Wages Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Tarr
A lot of jobs are salaried and not hourly. I don't know how it is across the board, but in Texas, to have a salaried job, it needs to be either managerial or require a degree (or special skills equivalent to having a degree); I think there's one other criteria that could be met instead, but I

Open Source and Linux: 2002 Poster Children for Security Problems

2002-11-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
So, you thought Windows has more security glitches than Open Source and Linux? The Aberdeen Group thinks differently. Open Source and Linux: 2002 Poster Children for Security Problems November 12, 2002 Open source software is now the major source of elevated security vulnerabilities for IT

Re: Gautam's energy levels

2002-11-15 Thread Matt Grimaldi
K. Feete wrote: but practically I think the going wage for a trained herdsman is 15-20k. Er, is that not a lot? Kat Money? What's that? Feete It really depends on where and how you live, but around here, that will get you an apartment (with roomates), a used car, and enough finances

Re: Wages Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Tarr
To compensate they gave me extra time off, illegal at that time, then a few weeks later made me salaried. Kevin T. Duh. I meant hourly. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Tarr
Kevin T. *Would he win the state races, the primaries? I don't think even at state levels there would be too much obvious racism. Unfortunately race is an issue in the backs of people's minds. A small percentage of the populous, and even less of eligible voters but still there. But I think

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Colin Powell President Kevin T. *Would he win the state races, the primaries? I don't think even at state levels there would be too much obvious

Re: Washington Cathedral question.

2002-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I could send an email to their site, but I'd probably look more like a terrorist than an author. And we do have a fairly local list member. I can maybe do you one better. If I were to forward the e-mail to someone who went to the school at National

Re: Washington Cathedral question.

2002-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I could send an email to their site, but I'd probably look more like a terrorist than an author. And we do have a fairly local list member. How is the Washington Cathedral heated? Are there floor vents or any wall vents? Is there any interior

Re: Washington Cathedral question.

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/2002 5:31:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And we do have a fairly local list member. I can maybe do you one better. If I were to forward the e-mail to someone who went to the school at National Cathedral in the late 1940s-early

Re: Tolkien tribute

2002-11-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William Taylor wrote: The Ur are specifically named for the Urukhai. In which sense? There are two ways we can take this; I imagine that the naming of Alien species - if this eventually happens with Humanity - would borrow names from sf and fantasy. But the Urs, as non-hostile to Humans, would

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #11

2002-11-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William Taylor wrote: (1) lease some stories, with only a benighted guidance [to keep consistency with His hidden agenda] --already done with Contacting Aliens, I think. You're in the credits on page 187. What was your part in the greater scheme of things? I could tell you. But then I

Re: Tolkien tribute

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/2002 6:03:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Ur are specifically named for the Urukhai. In which sense? Strong runners and swift on the plains. The one Ur tribe that did capturing--I don't have the name handy

Re: Guatam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 06:50 AM 11/15/02, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 12:26 15-11-2002 +0100, Ticia Luengo wrote: Am I reading this right? This guy works up to 80 hr a week and *still* has time to read a ton of books, watch games and movies, worry about being single in NY, and write such long and elaborate emails

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 05:19 PM 11/15/02, Deborah Harrell wrote: When I was a resident, we calculated our hourly rate and found it was something between $2-5/hr, depending on how many hours we worked that week, so we *were* paid less than the janitors! I dunno how much the custodial personnel at school get paid,

Re: Gautam's energy levels (was: Re: My return and baseball)

2002-11-15 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 04:56 PM 11/15/02, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You don't get overtime for almost any profession in the US, so far as I know. My parents (a physicist and an engineer) don't either. When I was doing locum tenens (sort of a Kelly Girl doctor, i.e.

Re: [Recipe] Chocolate cheese cake, Re: Grocery Shopping

2002-11-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:30:31PM +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: (Haven't got a clue as to what Oreo is.) Oh, the horrors, the horrors! -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: [Recipe] Chocolate cheese cake, Re: Grocery Shopping

2002-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/15/2002 8:39:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: (Haven't got a clue as to what Oreo is.) Oh, the horrors, the horrors! A packed up lips cow. So that's how Marlin Brando got so big. William Taylor

Re: My return and baseball

2002-11-15 Thread Doug
Gautam Mukunda wrote: I'm lucky to have a job. The market just _sucks_. Yes, I feel lucky that my wife and I both have relatively secure jobs. Let's see, the postseason, and the regular season too :-) I was very disappointed when Oakland lost, of course. It was, I think, symptomatic of

Statement on Farscape from the Jim Henson Co.

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Gabriel
So it looks as if there's hope for fans. J http://www.farscape.com/news/index.html Farscape is a flagship show for The Jim Henson Company. We are proud of its achievements over the past four years, which have included international critical recognition, three Saturn Awards, and a recent Emmy

Re: [Recipe] Chocolate cheese cake, Re: Grocery Shopping

2002-11-15 Thread Steve Sloan II
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Haven't got a clue as to what Oreo is. Oreos are a brand of round chocolate sandwich cookies with white creamy stuff (mostly lard, I think) in the middle. Hydrox is another brand that makes a similar kind of cookie.

tech sector

2002-11-15 Thread The Fool
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101021118-388992,00.html ?cnn=yes ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l