From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:11:59AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote:
I disagree. Since every child is produced by a mother and a father,
I think that our ideal goal should be to place every child up for
adoption with a very good mother and father.
I disagree.
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So you would deny adoption to single people as well? What of children that
would otherwise go unadopted? Would you rather see them in an orphanage
than with a loving single parent of gay couple?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Behalf Of John D. Giorgis
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct
Not
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Bryon Daly
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:11:59AM -0400, John D.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I have returned from paradise
And if you are interested in hearing about it, you can check out the
story
here:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I have returned from paradise
Bryon Daly wrote:
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have to figure out how to shrink the pics we took,
Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] commented on
some Near-death experiences (NDE) that they are
Vehhh-rrrhy Interesting - But Not-Proof
which I agree with. But the reports are suggestive, aren't they?
Most of the controversy comes from the definition of the word `death'
which is ...
All Australian banks have a code called the BSB code, which stands for
Bank/State/Branch.
We don't have routing numbers, though - what are they used for?
I suspect they are the same as your BSB code.
Each country is different; and sending money from overseas is more
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:14:22AM -0400, Bryon Daly wrote:
I know you're trying to troll him, but 1) he never stated anything
about Catholicism is his remark, did that need to be dragged in?,
and 2) it's intolerant and offensive to me and perhaps to any other
Catholics who might be on this
Isn't there at least one, however vaguely defined purpose to
evolution: success?
No. Purpose presupposes intent. There is no intent in the
happenstance that some of a set of erroneously self-replicated
machines survive and self-replicate better than others.
We attribute intent to
Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I have to figure out how to shrink the pics we took, though. My
wife uploaded them at 1.2 meg piece, and I have no idea how to
make them smaller at this point.
Use the GIMP. I do this all the time. Works really well. Moreover,
the software not
At 11:08 PM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote:
I would contend that had Gore won the
post 911 stuff would have gone the same. We would have gone into
Afghanastan with the same outcome. I would argue that Gore would
have been much better at using the good will towards the US that
exists after
Robert J. Chassell wrote:
The phrase The British have learned suggests to a listening
public that the US President had US intelligence agencies
investigate the matter.
John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded
It does not suggest this to me. Indeed the mere fact
At 06:13 AM 7/25/2003 -0400 Jon Gabriel wrote:
I disagree. Since every child is produced by a mother and a
father,
I think that our ideal goal should be to place every child up for
adoption with a very good mother and father.
I disagree. Catholics have a distorted view of the world
At 12:06 AM 7/25/2003 -0500 Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
JDG poured an a$$load of gasoline on the fire by writing:
I disagree. Since every child is produced by a mother and a
father, I
think that our ideal goal should be to place every child up for
adoption
with a very good mother and father.
At 01:46 AM 7/25/2003 -0400 Bryon Daly wrote:
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 11:09 PM 7/24/2003 -0400 David Hobby wrote:
I'll tell you what. Change the amendment so that any two
adults can enter into a civil union, which the federal and
state governments must grant all the
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 11:08 PM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote:
I would contend that had Gore won the
post 911 stuff would have gone the same. We would have gone into
Afghanastan with the same outcome. I would argue that Gore would
have been much better at using
Since society's role in assigning adoptions should entirely give
consdieration to the needs and rights of the child - not to the desires of
the adopters, I think that society should try and meet the reasonable
expectations of the child whenever possible, since of course, there is no
way
Robert J. Chassell wrote:
John, rather admirably, says that the lack of search was because the
Administration judged it more important in the latter part of April
and May to protect Iraqis from looters and such than to protect
Americans in Washington, DC, where he lives, or in
At 07:46 AM 7/25/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote:
Had not the partisan supreme court members unconstitutionally appointed
bush as dictator, and allowed the full Florida vote recount to proceed,
gore would have won the recount and the electoral college.
Wrong. It was Al Gore who prevented a full
Dealer arrested in Jesus relic forgery
Experts determined the inscription had been added to the box later.
'Jesus Box' exposed as fake
Scholars: Oldest evidence of Jesus?
JERUSALEM (AP) -- Police have arrested an Israeli antiquities dealer
suspected of creating two forgeries that shook
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:02:00PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
From what I have heard, US interrogators are contemptuous of old
fashioned torture since almost everyone who knows anything will die
first.
Really? I have heard many people claim that everybody talks when
tortured. In the
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/07/24/jesus.brother.ap/index.html
Dealer arrested in Jesus relic forgery
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Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the
mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every
expanded project. - James
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Behalf Of pencimen
...
Enron _and_ the Bush administration.
Or is that what you meant?
Sort of. Except that there's some superset that they're both part of, which
I dare not name. ;-)
Nick
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: TI interpretation of QM
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:41:25PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Obviously, this cannot be falsified. Which
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 05:53 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote:
http://msnbc.com/news/940963.asp?0sl=-44cp1=1
Didn't they used to duel on the floors of Congress?
Sounds like classic ingomious political chicanery to me.
When the majority party in congress feels it has
Julia Thompson
Ray Ludenia wrote:
David Hobby
No, it doesn't. I read all three quotes as We will attack all of the
nasty weapons that Iraq has. If
wombats were credible WMD, he would have included them too. : )
They certainly are! You should see the holes they dig. :-)
They also
From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course, California Democrats, instead of doing the wise
thing and trying
to get a solid candidate in there are rallying around the
sinking ship.
You mean, like the Terminator?
- jmh
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At 18:29 2003-07-24 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution
The family is not in any danger.
I differ with this statement. I
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0703/25voting.html
GA Backs Computer Voting
Plan Despite Critical Study
By DUANE D. STANFORD
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A state election official said Thursday he is very confident in the
security of Georgia's new touch-screen voting system,
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:43:18 -0400
At 05:53 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote:
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
Things are going reasonably OK now.
This wasn't the case sometime last week. I've been having
contractions,
and Wednesday of last week, it just got to where I couldn't lie down
when I needed to, and was horribly exhausted, and having
contractions at
a rate
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Bryon Daly
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I disagree. Catholics have a distorted view of the world that isn't
healthy to pass on to children. They should not be permitted to legally
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:10:51PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
I know. You're more of a tug than a jerk.
Do I create tension? What are you going to pull next?
Hey, tensile strength can be very *good*. Just look at suspension
bridges! :)
Julia
p.s. in
Ray Ludenia wrote:
Julia Thompson
Ray Ludenia wrote:
David Hobby
No, it doesn't. I read all three quotes as We will attack all of the
nasty weapons that Iraq has. If
wombats were credible WMD, he would have included them too. : )
They certainly are! You should see the
Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Arrgh!
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:25:32 -0500
When My Cats Get Too Predictable I Know I Can Rely On Computers To Do
Something
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 11:08 PM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote:
Uh, didja forget? Gore *did* win -- the vote, anyway. Just not the office
that usually goes with it.
Yawn! Gore didn't win the only vote that counts - in the Electoral
College.
JDG - Will you guys ever let it
David Hobby wrote:
The above would have been easier to state if we had general kinship
terms based on degrees of genetic relatedness. Sibling, parent and
child are all halves. Grandparent, grandchild, aunt, uncle, niece,
nephew, half-sibling, and so on are quarters. And you know you're
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:37:54AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Given this, I cannot see how you cannot grant that my viewpoint, at
the very least, is wrong.
Yawn. Wake me when you have a falsifiable prediction that is a
consequence of your viewpoint.
I talked to Wigner personally about this,
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:42:45PM -0400, Bryon Daly wrote:
And if I want to make a point that insulted Erik, I wouldn't do it my
making an obnoxious broad general statement about all physics experts
or atheists, because either of those would also attack other people on
this list.
Really?
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bryon, all children are produced by a man and a woman. But there has
never been a female Pope. How can a male-only Pope provide good guidance
and nurture to his flock when it is so unnatural? I find this offensive,
and I am offended that you cannot tolerate my
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh huh. If the Democrats had done this while they were in the
majority
would we be hearing from you about how they were abusing their
power in the
worst possible way? I suspect so.
By denying *elected political
From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Use the GIMP. I do this all the time. Works really well. Moreover,
the software not only comes with freedom, but if you choose, you can
Ahhh. Software that comes with freedom! I like the sound of that! Freedom
on
From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:49:17 -
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh huh. If the Democrats had
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bush as dictator, and allowed the full Florida vote recount to proceed,
gore would have won the recount and the electoral college. This was the
I'm honestly curious: why do you think Gore would have won the re-recount?
IIRC, Gore lost the 1-2 recounts they did
John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 08:07 PM 7/24/2003 -0400 Robert J. Chassell wrote:
The phrase The British have learned suggests to a listening
public that the US President had US intelligence agencies investigate
the matter.
It does not suggest this to me. Indeed the mere fact that
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you think that Osama bin Laden objects to
the
same things about American foreign policy that you
do?
That's not a fair tactic in an argument.
But that seems to be
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Ritu
Umm, and since when have the Presidents of the USA been in the habit of
basing their policy statements on intelligence reports from other
countries without having their own agencies verify the
Erik Reuter wrote:
You just insulted all bigots while trying to insult me!
Personally, I'm prejudiced against bigots.
Julia
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Erik wrote:
As far as it taking an inordinate amount of time to run an email through
a spellchecker, I can't see how an intelligent person is hoodwinked by
this ridiculous propaganda.
Typically people with dyslexia have a hard time getting some words spelled
close enough to correct that a
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Arrgh!
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:47:07 -0500
Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik wrote:
I disagree. Catholics have a distorted view of the world that isn't
healthy to pass on to children. They should not be permitted to legally
marry, and their children should be put up for adoption with decent
parents.
1) Don't judge all Catholics based on JDG. Many Catholics are
Erik wrote:
Obviously,
there should be a law that requires both a female AND a male Pope.
Separate but equal, huh?
(Just for the record, I have no problem with a female being Pope or with a
female being a priest.)
Reggie Bautista
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lately, my computer will do a warm boot restart with no provocation
whatsoever while I'm working. I finally traced it to a heat problem so I
run with the case off. Once I finish a full backup, I'm taking it apart
this weekend to put everything in a bigger
Bryon wrote:
I'm sort of fanatical about this - I have approximately 8-9 fans in my
(very large) PC tower case.
Have you ever considered using some form of liquid cooling?
http://store.epowerhousepc.com/cgi-bin/EPHstore.cgi?user_action=listcategory=Liquid%20Cooling
or
Guatam wrote:
If John Ashcroft were anyone _but_ an evangelical
Christian (speaking as a non-evangelical
non-Christian) the way he is treated by the Left would
be recognized by everyone for what it is - sheer
religious bigotry of the most unvarnished sort.
I know plenty of evangelical Christians
At 06:16 AM 7/25/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Jim Sharkey
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I have returned from paradise
And if you are interested in hearing about it, you can check out the
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bryon wrote:
I'm sort of fanatical about this - I have approximately 8-9 fans in my
(very large) PC tower case.
Have you ever considered using some form of liquid cooling?
Yeah, I have. It'd certainly be quieter, and is geek-chic, but it's way
too pricey
I wrote:
I'd love to see your opinion of it
when you get a chance. It's called the transactional interpretation,
and
John Cramer's paper on this interpretation can be found at:
http://www.npl.washington.edu/npl/int_rep/tiqm/TI_toc.html
Dan replied:
Its been kicking around since David Bohm in
At 11:38 AM 7/25/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
And it's not the end of the
world if my daughter ends up in boy's clothing at times.
For the sake of discussion, what about the other way around?
--Ronn! :)
I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would
At 11:45 AM 7/25/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
They *look* cute and cuddly. About 3-4 foot long and up to about 35 kg.
Check out eg: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombat
OK, the armadillos I've met up with were at most half that length (and
appropriate weight for their size), although there
Bryon wrote:
I think it'd be more fun
to mount a jumbo AC fan on the side... :-)
As long as either your hard drive or you fan motor are magnetically shielded
well enough... :-)
Reggie Bautista
Lost Data Maru
_
Protect your PC - get
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 11:38 AM 7/25/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
And it's not the end of the
world if my daughter ends up in boy's clothing at times.
For the sake of discussion, what about the other way around?
Well, if they're the same size, or she's bigger, that could happen.
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