On 08/05/2006, at 3:01 AM, The Fool wrote:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/05/age-of-miracles-wonder.html
Only now it's insufficient. We'd like to make pixels move around on a
simulated CRT screen. And we DON'T want to do it using high-level
complex stuff like VISUAL BASIC. Old fashioned
On 08/05/2006, at 7:49 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On May 7, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
snip a bit of self-loathing over liking the Xbox
(Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human
friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?)
Based on some of the
On May 7, 2006, at 11:02 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 3:01 AM, The Fool wrote:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/05/age-of-miracles-wonder.html
Only now it's insufficient. We'd like to make pixels move around on a
simulated CRT screen. And we DON'T want to do it using
OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You?
On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very
list... ;o)
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On 08/05/2006, at 9:26 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On May 7, 2006, at 11:02 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 3:01 AM, The Fool wrote:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/05/age-of-miracles-
wonder.html
Only now it's insufficient. We'd like to make pixels move around
on a
On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this
very list... ;o)
On 08/05/2006, at 9:28 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You?
No, not an XBox Live user - can't justify the expense right now (and
my PS2
Doug Pensinger wrote:
No, it's not, and this belief [fundamentalist atheism]
may have killed more people
than all religions put together - you missed this same
discussion we had here about 6 months ago.
Wern't those people killed in the name of communism though? Atheism
!= Communism.
On 8 May 2006, at 12:10PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
No, it's not, and this belief [fundamentalist atheism]
may have killed more people
than all religions put together - you missed this same
discussion we had here about 6 months ago.
Wern't those people killed in the
On 08/05/2006, at 2:10 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Doug Pensinger wrote:
No, it's not, and this belief [fundamentalist atheism]
may have killed more people
than all religions put together - you missed this same
discussion we had here about 6 months ago.
Wern't those people killed in the
On 08/05/2006, at 2:19 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
Where do you put the atheist religions (such as Confucianism) in
this scheme?
...or several types of Buddhism. Many atheists follow Buddhist
philosophy.
And communism is a quasi-religion anyway...
Not sure if you being on my side
The Fool wrote:
I don't get it. QBasic came standard with MS-DOS 5-7.
But not with Mac...
BTW, I can find Linux compilers/interpreters for all languages
[C/C++, Fortran, Pascal, Perl, Python, Haskell, Prolog, etc],
but not BASIC. Maybe Mac lacks BASIC too. Can this be an
anti-M$ Conpiracy?
On 8 May 2006, at 12:28PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
The Fool wrote:
I don't get it. QBasic came standard with MS-DOS 5-7.
But not with Mac...
BTW, I can find Linux compilers/interpreters for all languages
[C/C++, Fortran, Pascal, Perl, Python, Haskell, Prolog, etc],
but not BASIC. Maybe
On 08/05/2006, at 2:28 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
The Fool wrote:
I don't get it. QBasic came standard with MS-DOS 5-7.
But not with Mac...
BTW, I can find Linux compilers/interpreters for all languages
[C/C++, Fortran, Pascal, Perl, Python, Haskell, Prolog, etc],
but not BASIC.
On 08/05/2006, at 2:43 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Not sure if you being on my side will help here, but that's the
point I was just making, yes.
As atheists, you both want to establish a police state, with
_you_ as Supreme Guide, with the other as a lieutant :-P
LOL
Charlie Bell wrote:
I met my other half here on Brin List.
At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we
speaking here? Do we need to send presents? :-)
Jim
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On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
I met my other half here on Brin List.
At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we
speaking here?
Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture
List invasion. I tagged along
Charlie Bell wrote:
Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture
List invasion.
Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a
great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to
get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still
On 08/05/2006, at 3:40 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture
List invasion.
Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a
great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to
get
A New England company came up with a very Brin-ish solution to protect our
infrastructure. They offered it to the Homies, free. Did that offer get
anywhere? Read ...
http://www.reason.com/rauch/050806.shtml
Pat, goes off humming And we're living in America at the end of the
Unraveling,
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like
I'm still trying. :)
Red Queen, eh? :)
I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no
idea to what that reference joke actually refers.
Do you think Banks actually
On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like
I'm still trying. :)
Red Queen, eh? :)
I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no
idea to what that reference
On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote:
Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are
some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a
double-blind test.
Or, one could say that friendship requires some faith in the other person.
:-)
Dan M.
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like
I'm still trying. :)
Red Queen, eh? :)
I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no
idea to
On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote:
Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are
some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a
double-blind test.
Or, one could say that friendship requires some
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no
idea to what that reference joke actually refers.
The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to
stay in the same place. :)
My first thought was that it was
On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like
I'm still trying. :)
Red Queen, eh? :)
I could just laugh along
On 08/05/2006, at 6:41 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming
to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states...
I hope so. But there's always the yahoo factor here. That is to
say, there's enough yahoos that refuse to even
As for fibbonacci sequences a more correct function would be along
these lines:
(c) 2006 The Fool
' where fib(0) = 0
Function FibNum(Fib As Long) As Long
If (Fib 0) Then
FibNum = FibPos((Fib - 1))
Else '
FibNum = FibNeg(Fib + 1)
End If
End
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the
console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that
you all play online.
nick
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Nick Lidster asked:
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on
the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see
what games that you all play online.
Diplomacy :-)
Alberto Monteiro
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Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like
I'm still trying. :)
Red Queen, eh? :)
I
Nick Lidster wrote:
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the
console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that
you all play online.
I don't. But my husband plays World of Warcraft.
I don't even play computer games these days. And if
Nick Lidster asked:
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on
the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see
what games that you all play online.
My 9-year-old car-obsessed son and I played Need For Speed: Underground
2 all the way through and only
On 5/6/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Their IS no way of knowing things without the scientific process.
You're just arguing religion again.
Thus, prior to the invention of scientific methods, nobody knew anything.
It must have been a weird, weird world.
And all the people in the
On 5/6/06, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nick wrote:
I see a glaring logical error. The idea that *only* science can
minimize
self-deception and identify non-existent causes cannot be falsified.
I don't get it, couldn't you falsify the idea by comming up with some
other method
On 5/7/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So? Non-belief in the supernatural can't be fundamentalist, there's
no scripture or dogma. I
Eh? Insistence on the non-existence of God *is* dogma. Any insistence on
the non-existence of something is dogma. It has to be, since it cannot
Nick Arnett wrote:
On 5/7/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So? Non-belief in the supernatural can't be fundamentalist,
there's no scripture or dogma. I
Eh? Insistence on the non-existence of God *is* dogma. Any
insistence on the non-existence of something is dogma. It has to
Nick Lidster wrote:
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on
the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see
what games that you all play online.
I used to be a *fanatical* StarCraft player. My brother is trying to
get me to play DDO, since he's
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the
console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that
you all play online.
Only World of Warcraft at the time. Most of my RW friends play on it,
so it was a natural...
Damon.
On 08/05/2006, at 8:37 PM, Nick Lidster wrote:
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth
on the
console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what
games that
you all play online
Played some Combat Flight Sim and Black White in the past, ran a
On 08/05/2006, at 9:40 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 5/6/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Their IS no way of knowing things without the scientific process.
You're just arguing religion again.
Thus, prior to the invention of scientific methods, nobody knew
anything.
It must have been
On 08/05/2006, at 9:44 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 5/7/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So? Non-belief in the supernatural can't be fundamentalist, there's
no scripture or dogma. I
Eh? Insistence on the non-existence of God *is* dogma.
Read what I said. That isn't what I
Warren. Thanks. One guy at Apple has helped me with
a few of my problems. A few others linger on. I will
append a list of those, below.
As for BASIC, it's really simple. I want to show Ben
the line-by-line coding that started it all, and that
still lies deep in the heart of higher level
On 5/8/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Non-belief and belief-in-not are *different*.
Of course -- I realized the distinction when I wrote that. I wrote it
because what the Fool is expressing is not non-belief, it is clearly
belief-in-not.
Nick
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On May 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, David Brin wrote:
Warren. Thanks. One guy at Apple has helped me with
a few of my problems. A few others linger on. I will
append a list of those, below.
Okay.
As for BASIC, it's really simple. I want to show Ben
the line-by-line coding that started it all,
On 08/05/2006, at 11:39 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 5/8/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Non-belief and belief-in-not are *different*.
Of course -- I realized the distinction when I wrote that. I wrote it
because what the Fool is expressing is not non-belief, it is clearly
BTW, I feel I need to apologize for my unnecessary and rather stupid
comment yesterday. I'm not usually that thoughtless. Sorry, all.
-- Warren
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--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh. You do have to actually have a window open in
list view in order for that option to be
available, oddly enough.
Gotcha thanks.
3. Irritating in OSX! I pull a folder out of
another folder and put it on my desktop. IT
DOESNT SIT WHERE
- Original Message -
From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: Xbox 360
On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
I met my other half here on Brin List.
At the
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: Xbox 360
FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do
you want to come and play? Now you know whom to
On 09/05/2006, at 12:59 AM, Xponent wrote:
G
Actually I'd testify anyday that Claire is is pretty cool!
And a hell of a lot of fun to argue with. The gal aint no pushover!
Well..that's what I always liked about her.G
All true. :)
It is the worlds great misfortune that she tends to be
On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: Xbox 360
FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360,
and do
you want
On 5/8/06, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Fool wrote:
I don't get it. QBasic came standard with MS-DOS 5-7.
But not with Mac...
BTW, I can find Linux compilers/interpreters for all languages
[C/C++, Fortran, Pascal, Perl, Python, Haskell, Prolog, etc],
but not BASIC. Maybe
On May 8, 2006, at 2:04 PM, David Brin wrote:
The grid view on the Desktop behaves that way.
This is something that annoys me as well. With the
Desktop active, go back to the trusty View
options menu from View, and uncheck snap to
grid. Alternately consider changing the icon sizes
or
- Original Message -
From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Xbox 360
On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
On May 8, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Xponent wrote:
FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and
do
you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;)
LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits
on the
floor in his room unused.
What? You
On 09/05/2006, at 1:14 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On May 8, 2006, at 2:04 PM, David Brin wrote:
The grid view on the Desktop behaves that way.
This is something that annoys me as well. With the
Desktop active, go back to the trusty View
options menu from View, and uncheck snap to
grid.
On May 8, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
Never seen it. But then, I did a clean install of Tiger, I've heard
upgrading from Panther can be... odd.
I think that's the case for *all* of them. You need to fix permissions
first, and even then some things are apparently overlooked. IIRC
Xponent wrote:
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion
brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject:
Xbox 360
FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360,
and do you want to come and play? Now you know
I got questions for the astronomy folksG
How large can a terrestrial planet be? (In multiples of Earth masses
preferably)
A guy at work was telling me about some book he read, the science behind
superheroes or somesuch.
He goes on about Supermans powers saying For Superman to be able to jump
1/8
I use a brand new Mc G5 Big Iron machine, Tiger, three
weeks old.
(Had to buy the last Power PC chip machine!)
The speech dooodgie button pops up on startup and
won't go away.
The weird way icons shift on the desktop started right
out of the box.
--- Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
One night, Ryan was able to scare up an open race one night and was
completely smoked by a guy in a 240SX (the same car I drive) with a
top speed of 299 MPH. Our top speed is somewhere in the very low 200s.
This is exactly what's wrong with online gaming. I am a *very*
On Behalf Of Nick Lidster
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put
forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as
well to see what games that you all play online.
City of Heroes/City of Villians. Played a little of the Auto
Assault beta and a couple of
On Behalf Of Julia Thompson
There's no scripture, though, which I think is an important
part of the definition of fundamentalism.
I think militant is a more useful adjective when describing
some atheists. See my previous post on the subject.
I always used the description devout atheist
On Behalf Of Russell Chapman
This is exactly what's wrong with online gaming. I am a
*very* casual, occasional computer game player, and there
doesn't seem to be anywhere I can go for online gaming. I
bought Battelfield2, which looks great, but has limited
single player scope. But the
On May 8, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Russell Chapman wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
One night, Ryan was able to scare up an open race one night and was
completely smoked by a guy in a 240SX (the same car I drive) with a
top speed of 299 MPH. Our top speed is somewhere in the very low
200s.
This is
Xponent wrote:
I got questions for the astronomy folksG
How large can a terrestrial planet be? (In multiples of Earth masses
preferably)
A guy at work was telling me about some book he read, the science
behind superheroes or somesuch. He goes on about Supermans powers
saying For Superman to
Dave Land wrote:
There are times I feel that way in certain online communities: open
your mouth and it's very quickly shut by the local expert.
Thankfully, we only have a pair of those here.
Let's see if we can smoke one out, shall we: God is real.
OK, I'm going to do something stupidly
- Original Message -
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Online games
God is real.
Real what?
xponent
Really Maru
rob
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Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all
at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D
Julia
who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of
Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum
Umm, ok,
On May 8, 2006, at 8:07 PM, Xponent wrote:
God is real.
Real what?
Real Wisconsin cheddar. (Which is self-contradictory, isn't it?)
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From: Charlie Bell
Thus, prior to the invention of scientific methods, nobody knew
anything.
It must have been a weird, weird world.
The scientific method boils down to trial and error, repeat what
works. Without that, and the ability to remember the errors, nobody
*did* know
From: Warren Ockrassa
BTW, I feel I need to apologize for my unnecessary and rather stupid
comment yesterday. I'm not usually that thoughtless. Sorry, all.
I, for one, Welcome the return of your stupid and unnecessary comments.
Which one was it anyway Maru
From: Dave Land
Let's see if we can smoke one out, shall we: God is real.
Which One?
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On May 8, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Andrew Paul wrote:
From: Dave Land
Let's see if we can smoke one out, shall we: God is real.
Which One?
The capitalized One, you silly.
*That* God is keepin' it real, as they say.
Dave
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