Dan M wrote:
> After selling my house and resettling, I'm finally back to the point where I
> can finish answers to old posts that the list (sorta) returned too.
So have you left the Houston area?
Doug
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-
On 28 Oct 2008 at 5:54, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2008 at 20:23, John Williams wrote:
>
> > Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > > So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
> > > for lunch?
> >
> > Nicely put.
>
> Not really. This election i
On 27 Oct 2008 at 20:23, John Williams wrote:
> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
> > for lunch?
>
> Nicely put.
Not really. This election is a flock of sheep guided by jackals
squabbling over electing a carri
On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
> Among the things you need to be extremely careful about are: 1)
> unsupported assumptions; 2) inflammatory language; and 3) false
> analogy. I am seeing many of these being used in accordance with the
> principles developed by the Cult of Ran
John wrote:
> Force does not equal choice.
Whose money is McCain going to use to pay all those bad mortgages he
promised to take care of?
Doug
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
John wrote
> I think it is highly likely that a McCain with a Democrat dominated
> Congress will spend less than a Obama with a Democrat dominated
> Congress.
This might be a valid argument for me if there weren't more important
factors to take into consideration. More important to me than
ideo
Folks,
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:28 PM, John Williams wrote:
> Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
>
> Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
Please lighten up on John. He's cornered and his messages sound lik
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jon Louis Mann straw-manned:
> a lot of people called congress, against the bailout, but the people
> who didn't are the sheep and they are largely those who buy into the
> war and straw man attacks against obama.
I doubt very much that you actually know what was
At 10:05 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
>Mostly that was just a weird story that leaves you going "Huh?", but
>false analogy is used a lot. One of the best ones was popular some years
>back, before the Republican party descended into outright criminality.
>It goes like this: "The go
Kevin B. O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My favorite quote is from Nero Wolfe: "A man condemning the income tax
> because of the annoyance it gives him or the expense it puts him to is
> merely a dog baring its teeth, and he forfeits the privileges of
> civilized discourse."
>
> ...
>
> Inflamm
Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Not original to me. Maybe Benjamin Franklin? Or at least I think I've
> seen him credited with it, whether or not he actually said it.
Good memory. It sounded familiar, but I couldn't place it. The source seems
to be somewhat obscure, but you remembered th
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
>> for lunch?
>
> Nicely put.
Not original to me. Maybe Benjamin Franklin? Or at least I think I've
seen him credited with it, wheth
Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
> for lunch?
Nicely put.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
> Mostly that was just a weird story that leaves you going "Huh?", but
> false analogy is used a lot. One of the best ones was popular some years
> back, before the Republican party descended into outright criminality.
> It goes like this: "The gov
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
> Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
>> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
>>> should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
>
>
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
>>
>> If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want more than one
>> rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake country, you want a
>> sidearm in case you find yourself too cl
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>
>> i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
>>
>>> programs...
>>>
>> jon
>>
>
>
>> And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
>> people's money on social programs. But you don't
>> want other
>> people to spend YOUR money
At 07:13 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
> > > why, am i in danger, from who...?
>
> > No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
> > trying to help redistribute the refuges.
>
> > > are you really that dense, john?
>
> > I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never
>
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
> wrote:
> >
> > So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
> > should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
> No, that's not my position. Not at all.
>
> My p
Rceeberger wrote:
> On 10/27/2008 7:07:33 PM, Jon Louis Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
>>> Have you got John Galt in a case?
>> Who is John Galt?~)
> Look him up on wikipedia.
> Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
Umm, actually
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
> should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
That's the sort of statement that results in complaints about straw man
argume
At 11:38 AM Monday 10/27/2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>Dan M wrote:
> >
> > There are 40 _trillion_ of credit default swaps out there.
> >
>Billions, trillions, quadrillions... Who cares? Dr. Evil was
>frozen for 30 years and had to raise the blackmail from
>1 million to 100 billion. Now, 1 trill
At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>
> >
> >>> Then again, "an armed society is a polite
> >> society" ..
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners
are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
Robert A. Heinl
At 04:40 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Rceeberger wrote:
>On 10/27/2008 9:24:30 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > > the Fed
> > can't really even estimate or predict how
> > > far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend ev
At 04:48 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Claes Wallin wrote:
>[snip]
>
>Modern version (and possibly a digression):
>
>(1) If a country's government is forced out of the capital and loses
>control of most of the country, is the area controlled by that
>government still the original country, only with a drast
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> where do you fit in, john?
50% of taxpayers (by AGI) collectively pay for about 97% of the
total government spending, and the other 50% of taxpayers
only pay for 3%. I'm part of the 97% group.
___
http:
> i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
> > programs...
> jon
> And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
> people's money on social programs. But you don't
> want other
> people to spend YOUR money on their preferred applications.
> Robber baron, robber comrade,
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> t i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
> programs...
And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
people's money on social programs. But you don't want other
people to spend YOUR money on their preferred applications.
Robber bar
>Does that mean my skin doesn't exist, or is only as real in the same
>way a whirlpool is real?
It means that seeing your skin as some kind of permanent continuous thing is a
fallacy. The skin you had twenty years ago was real and the skin you have now
is real, but they are not the same thing.
> > you won't even get enough to pay for
> your meds, john. the most i've ever made
> > in a year was $50,000, and that was
> working two jobs...
> That's okay, I'll take it.
i have $10 for julia, but i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
programs...
as usual you dodge the qu
Andrew Crystall said the following on 10/27/2008 8:40 PM:
> On 27 Oct 2008 at 18:52, Lance A. Brown wrote:
>
>>
>> William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
>>> Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
>>> instead of the inefficient government monopoly p
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> you won't even get enough to pay for your meds, john. the most i have ever
> made
> in my life was $50,000, (in a year) and that was working two jobs...
That's okay, I'll take it.
___
http://www.mccme
> We had a revolution
> against, among other things, taxation without representation. In case you
> forgot, we won.
I'd be ecstatic to go back to the taxation/spending levels of that time. Or even
the pre-war 1900's.
> Whether or not we deserve the government we have, we chose it,
> give or t
> > i prefer taxing the rich.
> I prefer taxing Jon Louis Mann for all his money to reduce
> my taxes!
you won't even get enough to pay for your meds, john. the most i have ever
made in my life was $50,000, (in a year) and that was working two jobs... i
pay the max because i use the short for
> > A Democratic congress will tax the wealthy and
> redistribute the wealth to the poor and middle class.
> > If McCain wins he will continue GOP policies of
> subsidizing the corporate
> > state and cutting social programs. Jon
> This is something I don't understand. If Obama is the
> anti-corpo
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> i prefer taxing the rich.
I prefer taxing Jon Louis Mann for all his money to reduce my taxes!
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
> If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want
> more than one
> rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake
> country, you want a
> sidearm in case you find yourself too close to a rattler.
> Just remember
> to take the damn thing out of your bag before you go to the
> airp
On 27 Oct 2008 at 18:52, Lance A. Brown wrote:
>
>
> William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
> > Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
> > instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the
> > money of people who don't want t
> > > In case you haven't noticed, John Galt
> is dead.
> > > Have you got John Galt in a case?
> > Who is John Galt?~)
> Look him up on wikipedia.
> Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
i was being ironic, rob. i read atlas shrugged, and understand what the title
is supposed t
> 1) I am a fan of gridlock. I think if Obama wins, with a
> Democrat
> dominated Congress, there will be a lot of new spending.
> I'm convinced
> Clinton would have spent more if the Republicans didn't
> dominate
> Congress during most of his 8 years.
> 2) A surplus does not equal less spending.
Thanks Alberto
I hope we don't let you down...
- Original Message
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:09:41 PM
Subject: Brin: from Saturday's blog
> Ever notice that Sarah Palin ana
> > why, am i in danger, from who...?
> No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
> trying to help redistribute the refuges.
> > are you really that dense, john?
> I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never
> measured it, though.
> > how many times do i need to spell it o
On 10/27/2008 7:07:33 PM, Jon Louis Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
>
> > Have you got John Galt in a case?
>
> Who is John Galt?~)
Look him up on wikipedia.
Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
xponent
Utopians Maru
rob
> > In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
> Have you got John Galt in a case?
Who is John Galt?~)
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com
__
Nick said:
> So I don't think any of us can justify whining about being "forced"
> to pay taxes unless there's been another revolution that I haven't
> heard about.
So if you aren't forced to pay taxes, what happens if you choose not to?
Rich
___
h
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:12 PM, John Williams wrote:
> Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> *huge* "if" that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez-
>> faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we
>> really need to do this one more time expecting different result
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> I don't consider any process that involves the government forcibly taking
> money from people good,
Oh, please. You live in the United States, right?. We had a revolution
against, among other things, taxation without
1) Closest Planetary System Hosts Two Asteroid Belts (27 October 2008)
http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/releases/ssc2008-19/release.shtml
New observations from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope indicate that
the nearest planetary system to our own has two asteroid belts. Our
own solar system h
Claes Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Williams wrote:
> > That is one of the least evil forms of government spending, I agree.
>
> Wouldn't that just be redistribution of wealth?
Yes.
> Have I misunderstood that you consider redistribution of wealth bad and
> spending on public goods accept
> Ever notice that Sarah Palin anagrams to "Sharia plan."
> So, clearly, she's the one who plans to institute Muslim
> law in the United States. Other anagrams include:
> a sharp nail a plain rash. Any chance of a numeralogical
> match with 666? Pleze?
>
Numerology is an easy science!
S
John Williams wrote:
> Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> those people who -- OMGZ!!1! -- might need to depend on government
>> assistance for a while to avoid starving to death or living hand to
>> mouth in a homeless camp somewhere. I'd kind of like for those
>> programs to still be in
Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Government doesn't make toilet paper. Prices come from the finance industry.
My dollar bills say "Federal Reserve Note" and "The Department of the Treasury".
What do yours say?
> Dollar bills have little intrinsic value.
Must be because the government prints so
William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
> Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
> instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the
> money of people who don't want to pay for it.
You mean like Blackwater?
Greed and Corrupti
On 10/27/2008 5:18:13 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
> dyn/content/article/2008/10/27/AR2008102700289.html?hpid=topnews
>
> No time to comment myself, but I thought some folks might be interested.
> There's plenty of fodder in the article itself
On 10/27/2008 5:11:49 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > > Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
> > >
> > Now that you mention it, that would be preferable.
>
> So long as the rob
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/27/AR2008102700289.html?hpid=topnews
No time to comment myself, but I thought some folks might be interested.
There's plenty of fodder in the article itself for commenting upon, I
think.
Julia
On 10/27/2008 5:07:40 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
> > cheaper than toilet paper, give me a call.
>
> Government is good at printing money. Financial industry, not so much
Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
> >
> Now that you mention it, that would be preferable.
So long as the robber comrades have a good supply of rubber
condoms. "Please bend over, sir, it is f
Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
> cheaper than toilet paper, give me a call.
Government is good at printing money. Financial industry, not so much.
Get your toliet paper from Paulson!
__
On 10/27/2008 4:44:45 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > they can make what money you have worthless.
>
> If they means the financial industry, then no, they cannot.
>
If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
cheaper
Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
> I shed skin cells all the time, and they are replaced by new cells.
> The skin I had 20 years ago is literally not the same skin I have
> now. Does that mean my skin doesn't exist, or is only as real in the
> same way a whirlpool is real?
I am firmly of the opinion that
On 10/27/2008 3:28:52 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
>
> Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
>
Now that you mention it, that would be preferable
Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> they can make what money you have worthless.
If they means the financial industry, then no, they cannot.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Kevin B. O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Wayne Eddy wrote:
> From: "Olin Elliott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> The "I" that perceives is not anything -- its an illusion, a trick of
>> perception and >memory. It doesn't exist -- there is not fixed self.
>> Buddha knews that 2500 years ago, ?>and modern science is showing him
>> right.
> Surel
On 10/27/2008 9:24:30 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > the Fed
> can't really even estimate or predict how
> > far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend even
> > years into the future.)
>
> The Fed can't
> predict the
John Williams wrote:
> Anecdote seen on the internet:
>
> Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote
> Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had
> on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political
> prefere
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>
>>> Then again, "an armed society is a polite
>> society" ..
>
>> Bruce,
>> We have found that in general Americans are the politest
>> people we have met.
>> They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
>> certainly
>> speculated if this
Jon Louis Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
> why, am i in danger, from who...?
No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
trying to help redistribute the refuges.
> are you really that dense, john,
I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never measured it, though.
> how many times do i need to spell it out?
Could be
> > So you rank among the very wealthiest people in
> America? Congratulations!
I doubt that,he's justjust another "Joe"...
> > The anecdote you posted depicts Obama as wanting to
> take ALL the money from
> > the "haves" to give to the
> "have-nots" - i.e.: that he's a socialist.
> Wow, there
> Defending the country is a public good,
> not redistributing wealth.
who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
bush/cheney have done more to help al qaeda recruit than if mohammed were
alive!~)
___
http://www.mcc
> I think government is best at taking other people's
> money and spending it less
> desirably than those who earned it. Most people agree with
> me, judging by the
> tiny number of people who voluntarily pay more taxes. But
> believing you know
> better than others how to best spend their money is
> > what does that say about the republicans that did not
> vote for it?
> Hmmm, I guess it says there were more of them than
> Democrats.
> > at least those democrats who had the integrity to
> > vote against the bailout did so for the right reasons.
> To get re-elected!
>
> > always with t
> LOL. You're hilarious today. The government can save
> us! Despite
> all evidence to the contrary, it will be different this
> time! Worship
> the government! Government is God!
You need to take your meds, John. The government is Satan, under Bush/Cheney;
lesser demons take over when there
Lt Saavik wrote:
>
> > We have found that in general Americans are the politest
> > people we have met.
> > They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
> > certainly
> > speculated if this was in part due to the variety of arms
> > we have seen.
> > I still shudder when a truck pulled
> > I'm pretty sure that when I
> steel myself to look at
> > the statements for those accounts, I'm going to
> find they pretty much
> > tracked the Dow during its free-fall.
> Way to blame somebody else for your problems! You should
> run for office!
who do you think bruce is blaming, joh
> > Then again, "an armed society is a polite
> society" ..
> Bruce,
> We have found that in general Americans are the politest
> people we have met.
> They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
> certainly
> speculated if this was in part due to the variety of arms
> we have seen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Olin Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Surely the "I" that perceives is something. Just because it can't exist
>>outside a brain, doesn't mean it isn't real.
>
>
> Its real in the same way that a whirlpool is real -- it has a form and
> appears to be a "thing
I am convinced that if the Fed or the government, despite all evidence
to the contrary, actually did have some ability to predict or even make
good guesses at what markets are likely to do, then it would have little
need of regulation. If the Fed chairman or Treasury secretary would have
spoken up
> On Mon 10/27/2008 6:39 AM Bruce Bostwick wrote
>
> Then again, "an armed society is a polite society" ..
>
Bruce,
We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met.
They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly
speculated if this was in part due
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> most people, and I *am* involved in the securities market in a few
> ways that would, pre-crash, have been considered very sound places to
> put my money. And I'm pretty sure that when I steel myself to look at
> the statements for those accounts, I'm g
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *huge* "if" that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez-
> faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we
> really need to do this one more time expecting different results, or
> can we agree that there is a need to have *
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> They can,
> however, forecast based on mandatory reporting of transactions in most
> markets, and make reasonably accurate assessments of the impact of
> changes in those markets based on that forecasting.
ROTFLMAO
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122506801638770679.html
"For all of America's cherished belief in choice and freedom, it remains
an astonishing fact that the U.S. government forces citizens over the
age of 65 into a subpar health plan of its choosing. And so it is with
some hope that we greet a
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote:
>> the financial industry is made up of mature adults who know what
>> they're doing so we should trust them and not get in their way
>
> The financial industry is made up of a bunch of greedy people who
> think
> they know more than they actuall
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote:
>> the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how
>> far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend
>> even
>> years into the future.)
>
> The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS
> market, or pret
Maree,
If, on your way South from Redding to Santa Monica you find yourself
in the Bay Area (somewhat unlikely, if you're going via Yosemite, but
hey), Nick and I are in the South Bay.
I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to meet another list member
in 3Space.
Dave
On Oct 25, 2008, a
Dan M wrote:
>
> There are 40 _trillion_ of credit default swaps out there.
>
Billions, trillions, quadrillions... Who cares? Dr. Evil was
frozen for 30 years and had to raise the blackmail from
1 million to 100 billion. Now, 1 trillion seems like nothing :-)
Let's adopt complex numbers in fin
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Same old straw man. Consider me to have written the same answer.
You and that other guy with all your straw-man arguments. Maybe if you
got together you could form a support group and make progress towards
kicking your straw-man habits?
__
Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I sure seem to have wasted some money involuntarily by trusting the
> valuations created by incomprehensibly complex financial industry
> instruments. How is that really different from trusting politicians?
Force does not equal choice.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> The financial industry is made up of a bunch of greedy people who think
> they know more than they actually do. So is the political industry. I
> prefer the former -- at least they can't force me to waste my money.
I
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:25 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Why assume that government is
> > inevitably the worst way to accomplish anything?
>
> Why assume that you or anyone can determine how other people's
> money should be spent?
Same
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
Well, on my ballot, if I were to not vote for the incumbent in a
lot of
the state & local ra
Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how
> far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend even
> years into the future.)
The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS
market, or pretty much any market. Onl
On Oct 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
>
>> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> Well, on my ballot, if I were to not vote for the incumbent in a
>>> lot of
>>> the state & local races, that left me with a choice between a
>>> Democr
On Oct 26, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Bryon Daly wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM, John Williams
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Anecdote seen on the internet:
>>
>> Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that
>> read
>> 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in
Given that I was talking about how much a hypothetical Democrat would
spend vs. what a hypothetical Libertarian would spend, I don't see how
dragging a Republican into the mix refutes my statement. Your statement
is irrelevant in the context of what was said.
I'm not going to argue against you
this is quite illogical what democrat has spent more than the present
republican president?
Check this out at a price of $10 to $15 billion dollars a month there you have
it---your more than $700 billion dollars short fall. Cum on yall I'm sure yall
can count and think better than the crew you
>Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias instead of
>the inefficient >government monopoly paid for by taking the money of people
>who don't want to pay for >it. Economic superstitions Maru
Black water is a highly private militia just like Andrew Carnegie’s forces
under
1 - 100 of 106 matches
Mail list logo
