Re: Mention of David Brin

2009-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2009, at 10:19 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: Perfect -- and really more the point of my comment: why merely irritate them when your goal is to engage them in considering the ramifications of their idiotic statement? But yes: education does wonders to slow population

Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity

2009-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote: If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels. Depends how much water you need. And how much energy does it take to manufacture the wind-turbines or solar panels? Depends on

Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity

2009-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2009, at 11:57 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: In other words, I'd bet a case vs. a bottle of beer that it's a lot prettier on paper than in practice as a means of providing, say, Las Vegas, with drinking water. Because turbines supply the energy doesn't mean that its

Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity

2009-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/07/2009, at 12:18 AM, John Williams wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Charlie Bellchar...@culturelist.org wrote: On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote: If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.

Re: Gord

2009-07-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/07/2009, at 2:51 PM, Matt Grimaldi wrote: That name's a blast from the past, Was fortunate enough he came to my wedding. :-) C. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Gord

2009-07-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/07/2009, at 11:42 PM, Julia wrote: Was fortunate enough he came to my wedding. :-) C. Reply: You are *quite* fortunate, Charlie -- he was in Austin once, and I got to have lunch with him, but that was it. (He stayed with Marvin and his wonderful wife.) I consider myself lucky

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/07/2009, at 1:55 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:07 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: There are arguements for the free market. My Congressman wants a free market solution, and I respect him because he doesn't pretend facts don't exist. But we have free market

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/07/2009, at 3:14 PM, John Williams wrote: You seem to have a more restrictive definition of freedom than I do. My definition of freedom of choice is to be able to choose as I like as long as I am not directly taking away someone else's freedom. ...and that's the point of regulation - to

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/07/2009, at 5:33 PM, Richard Baker wrote: Charlie said: It originated a long time before Benjy. Traders in the Mediterranean used a form of insurance to indemnify the trader against loss if the cargo was stolen, and mutualised risk was used by Chinese traders (who would spread

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/08/2009, at 1:53 AM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: I still think version control, requirements management, and user acceptance testing have very definite roles to play in the development of legislation, and I'd still like to see alpha and beta level testing with bug

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/08/2009, at 1:43 PM, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote: Okay. However if a corporation or a family group infringes on the health of my family by polluting a stream I drink from doesn't it become my business ? How you

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/08/2009, at 5:46 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Charlie wrote: I do occasionally blow up. Once when I was accused of racism, once when a private discussion I'd had with someone was forwarded to the list, and ISTR Nick and I talking completely at cross-purposes. I was really annoyed on

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/08/2009, at 12:11 AM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: What you are searching for is akin to trying to find an even prime number. It's really easy to find one... ...but then you go looking for another... Charlie. But There's One, So There Must Be Another Eventually Maru

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/08/2009, at 9:03 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: What's a planet? Debate over Pluto rages on - CNN.com No it doesn't. *sigh* Either planets sweep their orbits of debris in which case we have 14+ or they don't and we have 8. But it's not a debate about Pluto. It's a debate about

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/08/2009, at 11:24 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell write: Either planets sweep their orbits of debris in which case we have 14+ or they don't and we have 8. Uh? Isn't it the other way around? Um, yes. :-) But it's not a debate about Pluto. It's a debate about whether

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/08/2009, at 11:41 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: IIRC, Phobos is falling and Deimos is leaving Mars. ...and our moon is leaving too. No, it's not. If the Sun didn't explode [*], the Earth-Moon system would stabilize in two tidal-locked bodies. Would

Re: What are Bill Maher's beliefs?

2009-08-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/08/2009, at 7:03 AM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: I've got a question on Bill Maher and germ theory. In various non- Rush type forums (e.g. the atheist alliance) there were numerous references to his favoring of alternative medicines. The quotes I've gotten (including the

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/09/2009, at 8:36 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: Some people fear that government-run health care will feature all the cleanliness and maintenance standards of Walter Reed combined with the prompt

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/09/2009, at 2:27 PM, Ray Ludenia wrote: The change of seasons is not as obvious here as it seemed to be in the States as we toured around last year. We don't go from ridiculous negative temperatures to extreme heat as for example in Colorado. It's gradually getting warmer now (the

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/09/2009, at 7:57 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: A referral to Religion without being specific often sparks a response on this list. Sure, but this isn't one of those times. Asking non-Christians and Christians alike to be more civil is one thing - civility in discourse is one thing.

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/09/2009, at 11:24 PM, Chris Frandsen wrote: Being civil has nothing to do with respecting beliefs. Being civil means not being unnecessarily offensive while pointing out where beliefs are damaging our societies. Some beliefs deserve ZERO respect (creationism, anti-vaccinationism

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 1:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I know what you mean, I think, but I've stopped using the word nice to describe it. I know churches that are perfectly nice to gays, for example, but in doing so pretty much fail to accept them. Sort of a welcome to our church, we're glad

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 2:37 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: We started with a plea for civility and niceness. Because it invoked religion and the name of Jesus, the thread was promptly taken over by those who felt it their bounden duty to object to the Christian content - not on the grunds that they

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 8:26 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: If I was uncivil, I apologize. I said what it appeared to me to be, but I may be wrong. At any rate, this was addressed, not to those who considered the plea ineffective, but those who began religious arguments. Well, this is a list where we

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/09/2009, at 12:35 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:48 PM, David Hobby wrote: The Christian nation bit rubs me the wrong way too. Probably because I've heard it used to justify things I strongly disagree with. ---David One last comment

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/09/2009, at 7:08 AM, Jo Anne wrote: And what's a Jaffa cake? A kind of biccie (or possibly a cake?). A sort of sponge base with an orangey bit and a chocalate covering on one side. :) Charlie. ___

Re: Jaffa cakes biccie

2009-09-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/09/2009, at 4:20 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Charlie wrote: A kind of biccie (or possibly a cake?). A sort of sponge base with an orangey bit and a chocalate covering on one side. :) ROFL! Now it's *perfectly* clear. What the heck is a biccie? Biccie is biscuit in the same way that sarnie

Re: Jaffa cakes biccie

2009-09-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/09/2009, at 11:13 AM, Ray Ludenia wrote: On Sep 25, 2009, at 8:05 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 25/09/2009, at 4:20 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Charlie wrote: A kind of biccie (or possibly a cake?). A sort of sponge base with an orangey bit and a chocalate covering on one side. :) ROFL

Re: Google vs Bing

2009-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/11/2009, at 9:57 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: It would take time to wean myself off Microsoft even if someone made an desktop operating system that was twice as good. There is. I did. Except for gaming. So I use a MacBook for day-to-day shite, email, letters, browsing, whatever, and I

Re: Google vs Bing

2009-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/11/2009, at 11:05 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 25/11/2009, at 9:57 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: It would take time to wean myself off Microsoft even if someone made an desktop operating system that was twice as good. There is. I did. I have Kubuntu, Ubuntu

Re: Kid's telescope buying advice?

2009-12-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/12/2009, at 6:26 PM, Bryon Daly wrote: *Delurking* I could use some telescope purchasing advice, if anyone's interested in helping. My astonomy knowledge is quite limited. I'd say you'd be better off getting a decent 'scope for the family and getting the lad a good book on how to

Re: Avatar

2009-12-26 Thread Charlie Bell
No spoilers here. Just got home from the World's Larg^H Secon^H Third Biggest Screen in 3D. Just see it. The story may be kitsch and predictable, but it's definitely a leap forward in CGI realism, and it's a hell of a ride. Charlie. ___

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote: Alberto-- Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going back and forth with the troll, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo Some of this is because I don't really understand his criteria, or what the problem is

Re: May not be around

2009-12-31 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/01/2010, at 2:48 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Brinellers, FYI, I may be missing from here over the coming days, depending on how things go. My younger sister is suddenly critically ill and the list, the new wiki and so forth may end up very low on my priorities for a while. Go do what

Re: May not be around

2010-01-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/01/2010, at 10:55 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Update my sister has survived more than 24 hours after she crashed, which is good -- the first 24 hours are always critical. She apparently went into septic shock this morning, but a fairly new, very expensive drug for sepsis brought her

Re: The worst

2010-01-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/01/2010, at 8:47 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died

Re: Getting ballpoint pen off laptop screen?

2010-01-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/01/2010, at 9:52 AM, Julia wrote: What's the best thing to do for that? And, just as importantly, what should be avoided at all costs? Start with a moist tissue, and follow with a pencil eraser and rub GENTLY. That'll often get minor scrapes and blemishes off. Depending on the screen

Re: Platform for gathering memories?

2010-01-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/01/2010, at 10:02 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Thanks for any suggestions about what might work. There's probably something obvious, but my brain isn't working well. This has been so stressful, I've slept so little... keep trying to get a little rest during the day but it hasn't

Re: Getting ballpoint pen off laptop screen?

2010-01-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/01/2010, at 11:38 AM, Julia wrote: Would a very soft cloth moistened do in place of the moist tissue? Yep! Microfibre or spectacle-cleaning cloths are good! C. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: IPad

2010-01-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/01/2010, at 6:28 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: But how about the iPad???:-) Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days. learner i have been hearing that apple is coming out with a netbook, and was waiting before replacing my iBook G4, but i like the idea of downloading

Re: IPad

2010-01-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/01/2010, at 10:05 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jan 2010 at 11:28, Jon Louis Mann wrote: But how about the iPad???:-) Kindle app does run on the iPad so in just 60+ days. learner i have been hearing that apple is coming out with a netbook... It's not a netbook. No,

Re: IPad

2010-01-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/01/2010, at 8:05 PM, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: On Stardate 20100129.0628, Charlie Bell wrote: My iBook G4 survived my cycle trip around Australia (10 months on the road, if you haven't heard the tale before). We've heard the tale, but when will your book about that trip

Re: i-Pad

2010-02-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/02/2010, at 5:42 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Thanks, Charlie and Andrew. I understand the iPad is a tablet and not a net book, although it is a lot lighter than my iBook, and it will allow me to go on the internet a lot longer, as well as read books. I can't do that with a Kindle or

Re: bicycle touring

2010-02-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/02/2010, at 9:46 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: This time I don't want to deal with a derailleur and all those gears so I will go with an internal hub system with only enough gears so the lowest ratio will get me up those mountains. Cool - Rohloff Speedhub 14 is the daddy. Got one on the

Re: ping

2010-02-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/02/2010, at 1:12 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: Ping! That's the most expensive machine in the hospital. Charlie. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Riding to raise money for MS research...

2010-02-15 Thread Charlie Bell
Hi guys, I don't normally do this here, so I thought I'd ask. I'm doing the Melbourne Summer Cycle this Sunday to help raise money for MS research. It's 40km around Melbourne. Only 40km, I hear you say. Well, I'm doing 160km on Saturday to raise money for the bushfire regions, so this may be

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/02/2010, at 7:05 AM, Keith Henson wrote: I could go into detail including the economic models, but I don't know if there is anyone on this list who can follow the physics, chemistry and math. You'd be surprised. My maths isn't great (ie i'm not a natural mathematician), but my

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org wrote: On 13/02/2010, at 7:05 AM, Keith Henson wrote: I could go into detail including the economic models, but I don't know if there is anyone on this list who can

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/02/2010, at 9:17 AM, Trent Shipley wrote: For a little while longer I work for the local electric utility. We had a newsletter item that the Australian leadership had ruled out nuclear as an option and instead was making a bet on carbon sequestration from coal plants ... which

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/02/2010, at 3:16 PM, Keith Henson wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org wrote: On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: snip You'd be surprised. My maths isn't great (ie i'm not a natural mathematician), but my chemistry

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/02/2010, at 3:23 AM, Michael Harney wrote: Seriously? You put this much weight in a non-academic, purely speculative and, by my reasoning bullshit article. For crying out loud, the only cite in the whole article is from wikipedia. http://www.paulchefurka.ca/WEAP/WEAP.html

Weekend cycling report (crosspost)

2010-02-21 Thread Charlie Bell
Hey all, Thanks to those who from the lists who sponsored me and my colleagues for the Melbourne Summer Cycle - we were riding to raise money to support those living with with MS and supporting research into MS. Today's ride was very busy, and I was a little concerned about the distance - more

Re: national security and climate change

2010-02-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/02/2010, at 11:34 AM, john...@gmail.com wrote: The US Army's Strategic Studies Institute has a number of papers addressing national security issues related to climate change. AFAIK, they are available for free as PDF downloads. Go here,

Re: Not ready

2010-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/02/2010, at 3:25 AM, Michael Harney wrote: I thought I was ready to come back here. I was wrong. I was too damaged by the last few years of my life working in a job that I was ill suited for but had to do to make ends meet. I'll come back when I relearn patience. Oh? I think your

Re: national security and climate change

2010-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/02/2010, at 4:07 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: The US Army's Strategic Studies Institute has a number of papers addressing national security issues related to climate change. AFAIK, they are available for free as PDF downloads. Go here, http

Re: Patience

2010-02-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/02/2010, at 7:39 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote: Michael, what job is it that's so draining FYI, folks, he signed off the list right after posting his message, so don't expect answers. Shame. C.

Re: Patience

2010-02-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/02/2010, at 11:10 PM, David Hobby wrote: I emailed him offlist about it, and here's his reply: snip fair enough. Still a shame, but fair enough. Cheers for doing that, David. C. ___

Re: Help

2010-02-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 27/02/2010, at 4:39 AM, Jo Anne wrote: Hi List -- I need some help. I got this site from a woman in my neighborhood who is a bit of an alarmist. I'm trying to do disaster planning and am working a bit with her. I suspect this is another case of bad science, but I'm not sure. For a

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/04/2010, at 3:34 AM, Richard Baker wrote: Doug said: Is anyone out there? I'm still here; I don't think that I'll ever unsubscribe from Brin-L and the Culture. I agree that it's been awfully quiet though. Rich GCU Mailing List Fermi Paradox

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/04/2010, at 5:00 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:26 PM, John Williams wrote: From my point of view, the current political situation in the US is a disaster and just too depressing to even think about. Hang on. I think John may have just twigged. And I think I may

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/05/2010, at 10:38 AM, kananda...@aol.com wrote: Shhh. C. ___ Be vewwy vewwy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits. Dee DD!!! Whaddup? CEB ___

Re: Clash of Titans

2010-06-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/06/2010, at 9:07 AM, medieva...@aol.com wrote: AMAZING! Not the movie---an actual drive-in. Tucson lost the last one a few months ago. There's one just across the creek from where I live. Still operational.

Re: Clash of Titans

2010-06-04 Thread Charlie Bell
That's 'cause the great Ray Harryhausen was the animator on that movie. But Harry Hamlin, shudder. His hair is terrifying in that film. Love it. :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: BP update

2010-06-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/06/2010, at 2:24 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Earlier I had reported that the events in the Gulf were unprecedented, a black swan. Since then, folks in the oil patch are still incredulous, but are increasingly upset with BP breaking the rules of the game. BP's safety violations far outstrip

Re: Having kids makes you unhappy

2010-07-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/07/2010, at 4:54 AM, Dan Minette wrote: It appears that the research suggests something profound, which I think you allude to. Parenting is for folks who have goals other than their own pleasure, who are truly willing to put the needs of others above personal pleasure. ...which

Re: Having kids makes you unhappy

2010-07-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/07/2010, at 9:26 AM, Dan Minette wrote: ...which makes ond feel worthy, satisfied... happy? It's impossible to separate self-interest from that too. Frankly, everyone does things for self-interest, even altruism... Metaphysical presuppositions about experiences you have never had

Re: 1945 - 1998

2010-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/07/2010, at 2:21 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Um...we'll all go together when we go... Would you believe my 23 year old son knows many of Tom's songs without me introducing him to them? Yes. I discovered Lehrer, and Python, and George Carlin, and Noel Coward, and prog rock and the

Re: Having Dads makes you Happy

2010-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/07/2010, at 6:21 AM, Dave Land wrote: How about Having dads and moms in the same house and married to each other? And if the parents are Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve? Or Madam and Eve. It seems that two parent families on average do better than one parent families, but it

Re: Having Dads makes you Happy

2010-07-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/07/2010, at 11:40 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I had in mind more the conditions that lead to the need for such neologisms as baby daddy or other terms to indicate a parent who is little if at all involved in the lives of either the child or the baby mama(s) he impregnated.

Re: Variation by Country?

2010-07-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/07/2010, at 5:31 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Charlie wrote: (and people seem too forget that single parents are just as often bereaved as unmarried, so there's no choice for a lot of them), but it's a lot harder to do well on one's own. That didn't sound right. Probably because the

Re: Variation by Country?

2010-07-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/07/2010, at 7:02 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Probably because the words or abandoned disappeared somewhere between my brain and my fingers. Point being, single parents aren't always because they had a one-night stand or divorced, sometimes it's because one parent disappears from the

Re: Sherlock: new British TV show

2010-07-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/07/2010, at 11:25 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 30 Jul 2010, at 07:29, John Williams wrote: Anyone catch the premiere episode of Sherlock (A Study in Pink), a new British TV show? It is a remarkably good, modern version of Sherlock Holmes, written by Steven Moffat of Dr. Who

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/08/2010, at 8:24 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Triceratops 'never really existed but was just a young version of another dinosaur' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1299666/Triceratops-really-existed.html Or more precisely, it's been discovered that _Torosaurus_ has been

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/08/2010, at 10:35 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: But thanks, it's a great example of science at work. It's also becoming common - lots of what were thought to be different species are becoming merged as the numbers of specimens increases. What we're learning

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2010, at 3:48 AM, Dave Land wrote: Then again, there's the Jewish tradition that The Satan isn't an embodiment of pure evil or some bad dude in red pajamas with a goatee and a pitchfork, but is, in fact, the prosecuting angel, whose role is to find out whether believers are truly

Re: Is anybody home?

2010-10-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/10/2010, at 11:43 PM, Julia wrote: The list did NOT drop you. Not from enough altitude to hurt, anyway... I'm home, but will need to leave in less than 90 minutes to pick up a friend at the dentist. That's an odd place to pick up... Bars and art galleries more traditional, no? ;-)

Re: Is anybody home?

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/10/2010, at 10:51 AM, John Garcia wrote: I'm good, how are you? Sorry to hear about your migraine. How is everything and everyone Down Under? Can't speak for *everyone*, but everyone that matters is fine, including Max The Giant Cat who is trying to persuade me it's dinner time

Re: Books

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/10/2010, at 4:34 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: These are books I read recently and enjoyed: Flood Ark Stephen Baxter Trash, but fun disaster trash. :-) The City an the City China Mieville On the lalpile. Prolly read it next week. C. ___

Re: Down with the government!

2010-10-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 09/10/2010, at 10:36 AM, Dave Land wrote: Sounds like you got your priorities right to me. I wonder if you couldn't have run under your old name, or if people would just find that weird? It's not uncommon for female careerists or politicians or authors or sportswomen to continue to

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2010, at 8:45 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Oct 19, 2010, at 7:18 AM, anar...@gmail.com wrote: There's also people like me who figure I'll not see much, if anything out of them but don't grouse too much about paying for those already in their golden years. For many years, this is

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2010, at 8:48 AM, John Williams wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Pat Mathews mathew...@msn.com wrote: Okay. Have it your way. We/they didn't save enough and consume health care with reckless abandon. May you never be in the workplace where the clerk, knowing that one must

Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/10/2010, at 5:44 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Brad DeLong brad.del...@gmail.com wrote: Could we get this troll--Mr. Williams--out of here please? Foreclosures are currently running at 3 times their normal rates not because there has been an outbreak

Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org wrote: You can leave the troll. It's taken only a few posts for me to realise that John has zero interest in engaging with any point, just repeating his own point over

Re: Loan modifications (was Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries)

2010-10-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/10/2010, at 2:39 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: There is no question that lenders have violated the law in many ways -- look at the foreclosure mess right now. The reason they have panicked and stopped foreclosures is because they realized that they took illegal shortcuts. Well, that and

Re: Loan modifications (was Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries)

2010-10-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/10/2010, at 9:07 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: And yes, by the way, we're having a tough time financially right now. I was laid off from LiveWorld a couple of years ago and I've been building up consulting and developing some new analytics tools, but it's hard. And we have a daughter

Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/10/2010, at 1:41 PM, Rceeberger wrote: One at a time please. Xponent Insert GOATSE Here Maru Rob LOL!!! Rob, I've missed you. Charlie. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Starting Engineer's Salaries

2010-10-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/10/2010, at 12:23 PM, Rceeberger wrote: Mostly I spend my online time playing Evony, where I am the host of Bavaria, a top 10 alliance on SS51. We use Skype in Bavaria so I can be found there pretty much every night under Xponent. Drop by and chat sometime if any of you get a spare

Re: Lots of people are having problems with loan modifications

2010-10-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/10/2010, at 9:10 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm getting increasingly annoyed with our lender. We own the house Cindy grew up in, up in Springfield, Oregon. We've had the same tenant for many years, so the lease agreement was signed years ago. The stupid lender won't accept it,

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/11/2010, at 8:32 AM, Dan Minette wrote: It is quite possible that we falter over the next two years, sliding back into depression. One of the most depressing figures is that the average GDP growth rate for the last 30 years will result in unemployment increasing, since we need

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/11/2010, at 2:15 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Sure, if they invaded Europe in '79 and Carter wasn't willing to start Armageddon. But, the military was a drain on their GDP, rising to 45% of it at the end. ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. Charlie.

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/11/2010, at 5:32 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Charlie wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. Hmmm, I looked it up, and military outlays under GWB as a % of GDP were less than they were under Carter, around 4% or a bit less. vs. Carter's 5%+. And

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/11/2010, at 6:58 PM, Euan Ritchie wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War Yeah there was, but it didn't begin with Korea. It began about 1943 when Germany's defeat was clear and it's conquerors began to consider

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/12/2010, at 3:51 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it. Judging by how they do it - letting the

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/12/2010, at 3:23 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/12/2010, at 8:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM, trent shipley trent.ship...@gmail.com wrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? Reminds me of

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/12/2010, at 10:29 AM, trent shipley wrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? They released the list of blacklisted domains that was itself secret... stupid policy.

Re: Australia [was: Wikileaks]

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/12/2010, at 10:39 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: How many secrets does Australia have that are worth leaking. Does a significant fraction of the World's population believe it is The Great Satan? Reminds me of the story of the lady who was applying for a visa to

Re: Facebook is evil

2010-12-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/12/2010, at 10:12 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be allowed to censor and criminalize something that is not criminal. If they want to censor images of people smoking marijuana, or

Re: Titties on Facebook

2010-12-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/12/2010, at 1:35 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: And various types of net nanny software block and report any search for any string containing the word breast, even though that may prevent a woman from learning about how to examine herself for cancer or about her options if she is

Re: Facebook breastfeeding ban

2010-12-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/12/2010, at 11:11 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: NO way was she fully dressed! (although her nipples were covered) I have never heard of a Facebook rule outlawing pictures of women breast feeding in public. Are you certain this, Alberto?

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