Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-19 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Doe wrote: The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 But what if I don't believe in God? I don't think that

Travel plans

2004-03-19 Thread Jan Coffey
NAME REMOVED after I return from [NAME TIME REMOVED]. Not to be paranoid, or anything, but posting ones travel plans on line is probably not a good idea. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Immigration and Inequality Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:30 PM 3/17/2004 -0800 Gautam Mukunda wrote: What do you mean by needs? I mean that if we were suddenly to get rid of the millions of illegal workers in the country, we would have a very difficult time finding

Re: Everything I know about life, I learned from 'The Young Ones'

2004-03-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From MSNBC.com: A delusional man who apparently believed he was Jesus Christ built a wooden cross and tried to nail his hands to it in a horrific bid to re-create the crucifixion, police say. Am I the only this reminds

Re: The end of the world as we know it?

2004-03-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The end of the world as we know it? Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:21:44 -0600 John

TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey Can explain why. TA has allways been a big part of Sci-Fi and Sci-Fi fandom. So much so, that furrism is a direct offshoot of sci-fi fandom. There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting

Re: The end of the world as we know it?

2004-03-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the people who made those predictions are now very unhappy with the culture they live in. Big deal. Do YOU think the world has gone to hell because Jews aren't discriminated against, because African-Americans can play

Re: The end of the world as we know it?

2004-03-17 Thread Jan Coffey
bully --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:47:20PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: I am deeply and personally offended that you would describe opponents of gay marriage as calling for a, quote, massacre of homosexuals. Uh oh, JDG's

Re: Libertarian Purity Test

2004-03-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 46. But if asked why, I doubt I would have so high. ___

Re: The end of the world as we know it?

2004-03-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] The world is not going to go to hell (unless, like that woman quoted above, you think it already will). The world did not go to hell when they stopped discriminating against Jews, it did not go

demand for labor : Was Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this helps to clarify things. Dan M. I think it does - I'm not sure that we disagree at all. If the decrease in the demand for labor is uniform across all industrialized

Re: New Pentagon Papers Author

2004-03-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Weekly Stanard does a few quick excerpts from the oeuvre of the author of the New Pentagon Papers: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/849c zxps.asp So, Doug, I think you were the person

TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Stargate: Atlantis was geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently has and is using younger actors and more action oriented storylines, not to mention the TA factor to a greater degree than SG-1 did. It's a

Re: New Pentagon Papers Author

2004-03-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: New Pentagon Papers Author The Weekly Stanard does a few quick

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom At 04:41 PM 3/13/2004 -0600 Dan

Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote... I agree, I do not hold much hope for atlantis. It appears that hamond will be taking over command of the intersteller ship. It also looks like the story line will move from current time to the future. I

Re: The Dangers of Buy American

2004-03-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:12 PM 3/13/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: One poorly stood conclusion of economics is that Buy American campaigns (or as Doug recently suggested, Loyalty Polcies) are actually highly counterproductive. We

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:52 AM 3/13/2004 - Jan Coffey wrote: Good point, so how many of this generation of software engeneers are going to suggest the study to their children? If Software development is seen as a job for imigrants and cheep

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, Jan, the only time I have questioned your consistency is with regard to your opinions on who has a right to hold opinions on what. I think the reasons for that were rather obvious. Then you are not making the distictions I am. 4

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like the average Hispanic is subject to the last bastard syndrome -- I'm the last bastard that should have gotten in, nobody come in after me. (I first heard this term on a local talk radio show, referring to people

Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:50:33PM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: As much as I hate to interrupt all of the love that is flowing back and forth on this list, I was wondering if anyone has been following Stargate? I have, but I

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like the average Hispanic is subject to the last bastard syndrome -- I'm the last bastard that should have gotten

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] America, Love It Or Leave It. Right? How very white of you! Knee jerk programmed response! Exceed your programming! Become more than an atomaton spewing the political miss-associations of yesturday.

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Then move back to India, or act like a guest while you are here. You don't get to come here and have citizenship and still be loyal to India. Well, actually, you do, but that doesn't make it right

Re: Request to Everyone.

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
Total top-posting has solved this issue on other lists where there is a mechanism to follow the thread in tree format. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I would like to make the simple request that when making a submission to Brin-L that we

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: San Jose Paper. sais 1 in 6 jobs in the bay area are now or will be replaced by outsourcing. Outsourcing in general, or specifically offshoring? Sorry it was San Fransico not San Jose and it was specificaly Outsourcing to

Re: The Dangers of Buy American

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One poorly stood conclusion of economics is that Buy American campaigns (or as Doug recently suggested, Loyalty Polcies) are actually highly counterproductive. Consider for example, SNIP In that case why don't we all buy

Re: Shrub: I don't understand how poor people think.

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
Cute, but they are all sound bites that may have been out of context, for how they are being ...fed. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/031104A.shtml Fish. Barrel. Boom. By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:48 PM 3/12/2004 + Richard Baker wrote: I never said, by the way, that I favored tariffs or trade restrictions except in consideration of environmental factors and labor practices. How about to preserve

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
Ritu, I almost let this thread die, or go on without me, but I decided that I would answer. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I am not forgetting any such thing. Nor have I heard anybody ever claim that these companies were Indian or that they exist for the good of

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: Ritu, I almost let this thread die, or go on without me, but I decided that I would answer. Like you, I debated answering this mail, then I wondered where to start and then the answer was just so very obvious. I don't

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: My best friend is Indian and holds an Indian passport, I'm curious about this friend of yours. A few questions: does he work in IT as well? Is he getting paid much less than a typical American, and if

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1 in 6 jobs. Jan, think about what you're saying here

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program.

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Mar 2004, at 9:29 pm, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way Jan, Ritu is probably one of the nicest, most levelheaded people we have on this list. I never suggested otherwise. She is entitled to her opinions, but it is a bit rude

Free markets and loyalty - was - Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:39:31AM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: Exactly. That's one of the reasons why an unrestricted free market is an unhealthy system, IMO. We value loyalty but the free market doesn't. No, you

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:39 AM 3/7/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Nevertheless, if by loyalty you mean keeping their goods and services more expensive than those of their competitors, I think that it is very unreasonable to expect that of

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:39 AM 3/7/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Nevertheless, if by loyalty you mean keeping their goods and services more expensive than those of their competitors, I think that it is very unreasonable to expect that of

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:39 AM 3/7/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Nevertheless, if by loyalty you mean keeping their goods and services more expensive than those of their competitors, I think that it is very unreasonable to expect that of

Re: I think I almost died last night

2004-03-08 Thread Jan Coffey
Alergies? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I've been posting during the day, I'm sure most of you guessed that I'm not at work today. Something very unusual and frightening happened to me last night. I had fallen asleep in the living room last

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:49:10AM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Jan wrote: Ritu wrote: About that Indian chap you quoted above, the only way he was telling the truth was if each US developer is paid around USD

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] About that Indian chap you quoted above, the only way he was telling the truth was if each US developer is paid around USD 60,000 pm. Is that the going rate in the US? No, for a very

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Of course right now, people are taking temp work for 60 or 70, but you can't live on that here. You couldn't even pay for shelter and food for a family of 3 on that, much less have traspertation

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-07 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:06 PM 3/3/2004 - Jan Coffey wrote: Personaly I am a little tired of the Republican party pretending to be the most ficaly sound. If that is so, then why does everyone (except the very wealthy americans) allways

Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :) 132 to you! Hay Erick, 198, 2, 198, 2, 198, 2

Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :) 132 to you!

Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :) My wife and I (both CS) use this method exclusivly. I think I have even

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno - I still don't get why everyone is so very eager to hate the third party rather than the actual thief which carried out the entire displacement of property. That's just the way humans work. And as for the criminal bit, well, it

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stuff is waay slow to stick in my brain), but I seem to recall alot of previous posts on how computer people can never stop learning, it is a trap in many professions to rest on your laurels. Yea, but that is staying on top of a particular

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIPED WELL SIAD AND WELL MENT BIT GO REAS ORIGINAL POST Let me disagree vehemently with Jan on one point. We have absolutely no justification for any ill will towards those that benefit from outsourcing and anyone with a

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Tis just that I can't see *how* India is supposed to be blamed for this and thus, I will ask when someone says that in front of me. The logic is that americans workers tax dollors, hard work building american corporations, and the

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:52 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Republicans: 'a Vote Against Bush Is a Vote For Hitler'

2004-03-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feel the HATE flowing from GOP republiKKKlans: http://www.ktok.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php? feed_id=135feed=/local.htm linstance=1article_id=1559 Cole Claims a Vote Against Bush Is a Vote For Hitler Wednesday, March 3, 2004 at

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell wrote: Out of curiosity, and without wanting to get into the whole is it good/is it bad/is it fair thing: What is it that the people who complain about off-shoring want done about it. I see this proposal has

Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :) My wife and I (both CS) use this method exclusivly. I think I have even posted this here before. Anyway, one day we went to the grocer on our way for a long road trip.

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: The Fool wrote: Let's see India, China, or Russia belly up to the bar and pay their fair share of the hundreds-of-billions of dollars per year being stolen from the US Taxpayer to make

Re: Why fight in the Civil War?

2004-03-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Republican moderates had not let themselves be led by the Radicals, do you think the party would have had an easier time consolidating power in Congress? I'm thinking

Re: L3 Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-03-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, my understanding is that in the early days of the First World War, American sympathies were largely with the Germans. Likewise, the Irish also generally sympathized with the Germans in the World Wars in large

Re: The unlikely triumph of democracy

2004-03-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet, qualifications aren't always what they are cracked up to be. That's so true, IMOADTAE. I don't know how many CS PHD's I have worked with, who are compleatly clueless when it comes to designing good software. I know this

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 12:03:22AM -0700, Michael Harney wrote: Your confusion is over the fact that I was talking about two different things. The first was about off-shoring (sending work to other countries), the second was

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:36 AM 3/2/2004, you wrote: Half of our development staff is Indian. I turn to them to tell me the technology can do what I want it to do. They are the subject matter experts to programming. The American developers are OK,

Re:L3 Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Bitter Melons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view

Re: L3 Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia wrote: Dan Minette wrote: Its true that you can find some historian on any side of an issue. That doesn't mean that there is not a good way to determine what is likely, unlikely, and very very unlikely. For

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] BULLY! Now was this Bully! meant in the sense that you think Eric is someone who picks on people he thinks are weaker than him, or in the sense of strong agreement

Egypt's actions towards gays -exactly like- nazi germany's

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storycid=540e=2u=/ap/egypt_entrapping_gays ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Scouted: Video Games make kids fat and violent

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storycid=581e=2u=/nm/20040301/tc_nm/leisure_games_dc fit's with my anicdotal evidence. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: L3 Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actualy it was. It was fought over the states rights to be a differnt country. Seriously though, do you think that the average foot soldiure in the confederacy did not believe

Re: Why fight in the Civil War?

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: L3 Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
And becouse ... BULLY! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:06:19AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I thought you were done with this thread long ago... Why are you still here? You thought wrong. Read what I wrote. Did you

Bully! was Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-03-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 05:34:00PM -0800, Chad Cooper wrote: When I hear someone say Goodbye, particularly in the way you said it, I ALWAYS assume that means they are about to leave, I said goodbye to a specific person.

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew said: You are calling Jan Jane, like its somehow sub-optimal to be a women. Actually, he isn't. He's calling Jan Jane because Jan keeps calling Erik by variants of his name with additional or alternative letters.

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
BULLY! Besides you want to talk about S/N ratio, You know, you keep talking about S/N and so I got to thinking, you know, I don't think it's others S/N, I think that your nyquist is just not high enough. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
BULLY! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:17:44PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: Jeez Erik, you don't even know the guy. Andrew's a damn good fellow and not prone to noise. I can understand you not agreeing with him, but these

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A few new words of which this list is in need Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:14:34

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
BULLY! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:26:43PM -0330, Travis Edmunds wrote: First of all, let me say that after getting to know Robert a bit in the last few months, I think he's a pretty cool guy. In direct contrast to you of

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: I urge caution Erik. For Robert drinks from this spring regularly. And second time around he may not be so nice to the little piggy wiggy. Little piggy wiggy? Please. If Erik is a pig, he's

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-28 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Oh yes thank you for reminding me, I had almost forgotten all about you Erick. Come to mention it I also forot these words: bully, adipose, corpulent, fleshy, gross, heavy, obese, overblown, overweight

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also heavily disagree with his assertation that Freedom of Speech defends one's right to use crude language or show inappropriate material where it may be exposed to minors. I think hiding behind this element of the

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: However, you would think that if it's ok to raz someone claiming that they look pathetic becouse of something they did, why is it not ok to raz them back about looking pathetic becouse of something

Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly makes an obscenity obscene? Aside from something obscene being labled an obscenity of course. That's a good question and perhaps one worthy of exploration. However, its also pretty academic IMHO. Whether

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 03:38:32PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: You know, I'm a little touchy about this right now. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am. Funny, the comment didn't even register on me. Most of it is because I

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to my original comment. When I said that the Constitution was meant to be interpreted, I mean that those who wrote it obviously intended it to be interpreted. If they had really wanted to pin the meanings down exactly,

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what civilization is he talking about? It must be Western civilization, because other civilizations, even today support, and make it legally possible to participate in other forms of

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. And rich and poor alike are forbidden to sleep under bridges. So? (Note that I did not claim that the Equal Protection Clause supported gay

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:04:38PM -, iaamoac wrote: Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that. I don't think it means what you think it means. It certainly doesn't give you the right to go around forcing

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said that, did I? (What gave me more reason to doubt your intellectual credentials was how you argued with me about terrorism

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-25 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't even a side claim -I WAS MAKEING- it was simply in response to that discussion. So, still, if you want references for that I know you can find them, If you already do not believe that then I doubt you

Re: A few new words of which this list is in need

2004-02-25 Thread Jan Coffey
Oh yes thank you for reminding me, I had almost forgotten all about you Erick. Come to mention it I also forot these words: bully, adipose, corpulent, fleshy, gross, heavy, obese, overblown, overweight, porcine, portly, pursy, stout, upholstered, weighty, beefy, bulky, chunky, dumpy,

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo, truncated my message, so can't refer to the original text, but I think the request for citations in this is entirely reasonable. The statement was made that there is evidence that Hitler was appalled by the Holocaust

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Dan used a portion of that statment out of context as if I were defending Hittler and then reqested citations for that deffence. I could easily be wrong, but I read Dan's response as a request

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Dan used a portion of that statment out of context as if I were defending Hittler and then reqested citations for that deffence. I could easily be wrong, but I read Dan's response as a request

Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, one post cannot smother a reasonable discussion. The fact of the matter is that you have not been successful in persuading people to accept some of your main premises. Godwin's Law = 1 a couple of threads ago.. This thread's

Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.

2004-02-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since pretty much the entire basis of Hitler's reality was that he had to come to power in order to rid Germany (and the world) of the Jews. I thought it was to fulfill the destiny of greatness for the Ayrian people.

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