Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials

2020-01-08 Thread Newman, Janet (Manufacturing, Parkville)
January 2020 3:52 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials Hi Armando, I echo Rodger’s advice at 10 mg/ml to start. Our high-throughput crystallization lab has a FAQ page that notes this https://hwi.buffalo.edu/high-throughput

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials

2020-01-08 Thread Edward Snell
board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roger Rowlett Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 11:29 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials I usually set a partial screen, maybe 24-48 conditions. If less than half

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials

2020-01-08 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Armando, in case you have enough material to spare, I would use a concentrator to create a saturated solution, i.e. concentrate until it precipitates. Measure the concentration of the saturated solution, i.e., supernatant without disturbing the solution with the precipitate. You can

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials

2020-01-08 Thread Roger Rowlett
I usually set a partial screen, maybe 24-48 conditions. If less than half the wells have precipitate, double protein concentration. If most have precipitate, maybe reduce protein or halve concentration of screen reagents. I usually start at 10 mg/mL or so. You can conveniently change protein conc.

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials

2020-01-08 Thread Armando Albert
Dear all, I was wondering how to guess the optimal protein concentration for the initial crystallisation trials. Is there any trick or assay other than the classic PCT from Hampton? Armando To unsubscribe from the

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Karel Chaz
Dear all, A question for the biochemistry-inclined folks in the bb; how do I calculate protein concentration of chromatography fractions, starting from Abs280 from the UV monitor? I know I could figure it out myself if I really tried, but why bother when I have access to so many brilliant

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Step1: visit Protparam tool and CP your sequence, scroll down until you find the extinction coefficient part. If OD280 is not close to 1 then make sure to take that into account in your chromatogram say it is 0.7 step2: look at your mAU's If your peak is 1000 mAU then you have 0.7 mg/ml in that

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Karel - To add to what Jurgen said, a few points on the measurement of the protein peak from the chromatogram. - I usually approximate the peak as a triangle, so that the total peak area is 1/2 height (absorbance maximum) x base (the number of ml in your pool) - If your peak is a

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Engin Özkan
On 1/15/14, 9:34 AM, Matthew Franklin wrote: - I usually approximate the peak as a triangle, so that the total peak area is 1/2 height (absorbance maximum) x base (the number of ml in your pool) GE's UNICORN for AKTAs (and probably the new Biorad FPLC software) integrates and tells you the

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Evgeny Osipov
I am not sure, but probably path length not 1 cm in a detector cuvette . You must refer to your HPLS system manual for this value 15.01.2014 19:09, Karel Chaz пишет: Dear all, A question for the biochemistry-inclined folks in the bb; how do I calculate protein concentration of chromatography

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Karel Chaz
Thanks for all the replies. And I would not call this laziness, rather crowdsourcing I should have added a few more details; it is easy to export from say Unicorn to excel, a list of pairs of values, Abs280 vs elution times, with which one can recreate the chromatogram. I wanted to use these

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Acoot Brett
...@gmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014 11:09 PM Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms Dear all, A question for the biochemistry-inclined folks in the bb; how do I calculate protein concentration of chromatography fractions, starting from Abs280

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration form chromatograms

2014-01-15 Thread Dmitry Rodionov
If using Unicorn, 1)Open your chromatogram in Evaluation window. 2)Go to Operations- Pool 3)Choose which baseline estimation suits you, define the pools (numbered rulers that appear under the chromatogram) 4)type in the path length (2 or 10 mm for UV-900 and 2 mm for UPC-900) 5)type in the mass

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-11 Thread Bernhard Rupp
:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization Perhaps my question was not expressed well. I wanted to know if proteins crystallize more frequently when the protein concentration is in the range 5-30mg/ml. The answer pointed out by my colleague

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-11 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
[mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Debasish Chattopadhyay *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:02 AM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization ** ** Perhaps my question was not expressed well. I wanted to know if proteins crystallize more

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-10 Thread Debasish Chattopadhyay
What would be a convenient way to estimate what percentages of proteins have been crystallized in a concentration range, for example 5-30 mg? Debasish Chattopadhyay University of Alabama at Birmingham CBSE-250 1025 18th Street South, Birmingham, Al-35294 USA Ph: (205)934-0124; Fax:

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-10 Thread Evgeny Osipov
Dear Debasish, you can use REMARK 200 field in pdb file. Sadly, this field is not mandatory so not everyone provide protein concentration info. 10.06.2013 18:49, Debasish Chattopadhyay ?: What would be a convenient way to estimate what percentages of proteins have been crystallized in a

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-10 Thread rana ibd
Best Regards Rana From: Debasish Chattopadhyay debas...@uab.edu To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization What would be a convenient way to estimate what percentages of proteins have been crystallized

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization

2013-06-10 Thread Debasish Chattopadhyay
Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallization What would be a convenient way to estimate what percentages of proteins have been crystallized in a concentration range, for example 5-30 mg? Debasish Chattopadhyay University of Alabama at Birmingham CBSE-250 1025 18th Street South

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-20 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roger Rowlett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:42 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt... This is almost exactly our basic approach, too. Before we got a dropsetter, we did 24 wells (1/2 screen) to get a feel

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread james09 pruza
Dear Crystallographers, Is there any rule of thumb for Protein concentration and molecular weight for crystallization trials of a soluble protein? Looking for high molecular wt. protein ~50kDa. James.

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread mjvdwoerd
or 10mg/ml or 100mg/ml is reasonable. Mark -Original Message- From: james09 pruza james09x...@gmail.com To: CCP4BB CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 1:59 pm Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt... Dear Crystallographers, Is there any rule of thumb for Protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread Roger Rowlett
pruza james09x...@gmail.com To: CCP4BB CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 1:59 pm Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt... Dear Crystallographers, Is there any rule of thumb for Protein concentration and molecular weight for crystallization trials of a soluble protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread Tom Murray-Rust
Hi James, You can get the PCT (Pre-Crystallisation Test) from one of the more famous manufacturers of crystallography products - essentially you can quickly screen your protein to get an idea if it is too dilute, too concentrated, or somewhere in the middle. Of course, the results are

[ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal

2010-12-13 Thread Teresa De la Mora
Hi all I'm looking for a way to calculate the protein concentration in a single crystal. So what I'm thinking is to use the Matthew's number to calculate how many molecules inside the crystal, then multiply that number by Avogadro's number to get moles then divide by volume of crystal.

Re: [ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal

2010-12-13 Thread Roger Rowlett
Sounds like a good units conversion problem for Introductory Chemistry. Basically, you can get molecules per cubic angstrom from your unit cell analysis (molecules per unit cell and cubic angstroms per unit cell) and convert to the units of your choice, mg/cm^3,

Re: [ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal

2010-12-13 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal Hi all I'm looking for a way to calculate the protein concentration in a single crystal. So what I'm thinking is to use the Matthew's number to calculate how many molecules inside the crystal, then multiply that number

Re: [ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal

2010-12-13 Thread James Holton
If you know the Matthews volume, then you can convert to protein concentration with: [protein] (mg/mL) = 1/( V_M (A^3/Da) ) * 1.66e-21 (mg/Da) * 1e24 (A^3/mL) For example, lysozyme crystals (V_M = 2.0 A^3/Da) contain about 830 mg/ml of protein. Most protein crystals are in this ballpark

Re: [ccp4bb] protein concentration in crystal

2010-12-13 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Hello Teresa, c = x/(N.V) where x=number of molecules per unit cell, N=Avogadro's number, V=volume of the unit cell in liter, c=concentration in molar Cheers Filip On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Teresa De la Mora dela0...@umn.eduwrote: Hi all I'm looking for a way to calculate the

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread Mark Hilge
Dear all, I would be glad to hear what (simple) method I should use to determine protein concentrations as accurately as possible. Presently, I'm measuring absorption at 280nm with a nanodrop device. I either have 0 or 1 tryptophan and no activity test. Many thanks in advance! Best

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread Puneet juneja
Dear Mark Most easy way to have relative estimation is to run PAGE of your protein with known proteins of known different concentration so u can have a good relative estimation. but for more accurate estimation u can go for Biochemical methods such as Lowry method or BCA method which are more

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread Poul Nissen
Often the exact concentration is not so important compared to the ability to establish proportional read-out, ease and reproducibility so that systematic variations and comparisons can be made. For considerations of molar ratios of for example protein:ligand complexes one would often

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread R.M. Garavito
Mark, A little more information on the protein and need would be nice. Is it a large peptide, a small protein, or a recombinant protein? Do you want real quantitative results or semi quantitative (like BCA, Bradford, or Lowry which can be off by 20% or more relative to the [BSA])? Do

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread Jim Fairman
Mark, There are two very easy alternatives. First is the Bradford Coomassie Dye binding assay. You can buy a kit from Biorad at the following link: